WEBVTT - Build Your Brand and Profit (How-To Monday) 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:03.519 Hey, hey, ba fam, It's time for another Halla Back Monday, 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:05.840 which is funny because the guests we have on her 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:08.440 name is Halla. Anyway, this week we're looking back at 0:00:08.440 --> 0:00:14.200 our episode with Halla Taha aka the Podcast Princess. Halla 0:00:14.320 --> 0:00:16.840 is this dynamic, amazing woman. She's the founder and CEO 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:20.480 of yapp Media, a business podcast network with an award 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:24.919 winning social media and podcast marketing agency for top podcasters, 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:26.360 celebrities and CEOs. 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:29.280 There's a lot to learn from Hollo storage job to 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:30.480 really give it a listen. 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:39.160 Okay, hey, hey, hey, we're back. 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:40.480 We're black. 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:50.680 Ambition, ambition, ambition, ambition, ambition. 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:52.320 Hey manager, how you doing girl? 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:55.240 I'm doing so much better now that I'm here. 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:58.240 Yy, Welcome back in the seal or whatever. 0:00:58.440 --> 0:00:58.600 You know. 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:00.120 We have a guest today. 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:04.640 I'm excited, Yes, lovely, And you're a badass business Boddy, 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:08.640 which is hard to maintain both and if you kudos. 0:01:09.480 --> 0:01:12.480 So I'm gonna introduce these Halla our guests. Halla Taha, 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:17.000 dubbed the Podcast Princess, is the host of Young and 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:21.280 Profiting yapp podcast, frequently raked as the number one business 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:24.720 and entrepreneurship podcast across all of the apps. Okay, Halla 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:27.920 is also the founder and CEO of YAP Media, a 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:31.360 business podcast network with an award winning social media and 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:35.880 podcast marketing agency for top podcasters. 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:36.360 Celebrities and CEOs. 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:40.080 She is well known for her engaged following and influence 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:45.600 on LinkedIn. Young and Profiting podcast is a top one 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:49.720 hundred podcasts globally, and Halla has interviewed starred studded guests 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:55.440 from the likes of Matthew McConaughey, am Alex hormoz On, 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:59.760 The Worst, Dpak Chokworld, We Love Deva, David John Saith 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:02.560 God who saith Gotten is like the man when it 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:07.080 comes to marketing, and cantless others. Her show was recognized 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:10.040 in twenty twenty two as a webby honoree A. You 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:12.440 Know we Love webbis around Here and Howa has been 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:15.720 featured in publications like Entrepreneur, Founder and. 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:17.359 The New New York Times. 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:22.360 She is an expert on networking, marketing, social media, personal branding, 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:26.000 side hustles, entrepreneurship, and podcasting. 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:30.400 Who Hollow We called that? What being a why Holla? 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:30.560 It is? 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:32.480 Also you're a brown girl. How I'm gonna ask you 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:33.040 where you're from? 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:34.200 I am brown girl? 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:37.280 Well, where I'm from is super relevant right now. I'm 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:41.040 one hundred percent Palestinian. Oh wow, my god, I'm one 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:44.720 hundred percent first generation Palestinian. My family is still in 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:45.480 the West Bank. 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:48.359 So how are you navigating this really hard time? 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:49.760 Oh, it's been really tough. 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:52.560 It's been like the tough and I'm running such a 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:56.119 huge company. I'm one of the few Palestinian voices, so 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:59.080 I felt like I had this side hustle I never 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:02.080 asked for, of just having to educate people. There's so 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:05.880 much misinformation right now, so I'm just trying to just 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:09.440 de escalate, and it's just. 0:03:09.680 --> 0:03:12.960 A terrible situation. So I'm trying my best. You know. 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:16.639 Yeah, this sound's tough because there's a lot of misinformation 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:20.200 going on. There's a lot of emotions, and to be 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:23.160 quite honest, a lot of people have literally learned history 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:29.560 wrong right, and so Palestinians and Arabic people and Jewish 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:31.799 people also are a lot of Jewish people are really 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:34.440 aware of the actual facts in history and really against 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:39.360 everything that's happening. There's literally apartheide in Israel. You know, 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:42.880 this is proven by multiple human rights organizations. I even 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:45.480 as a US citizen, if I go to Palestine. I'm 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:49.320 literally treated as an oppressed person who has to drive 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:52.600 on separate roads, who has to go through checkpoints, who 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:56.600 somebody could kill me in Israel and literally nobody would 0:03:56.640 --> 0:04:01.560 be prosecuted, nobody would go to jail. It's crazy, right, 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:04.560 It's literally crazy. But so many people don't know this 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:09.360 information and they just hear like anti semitism or what like, 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:12.000 you know, they just go red and they won't even 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:15.920 listen to what other people are saying. So it's really 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:19.920 high stakes right now. And as a business person, I'm 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:22.600 so lucky because I remember when I worked in corporate 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:23.719 I could never talk. 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:24.320 About any of this. 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:26.640 I would, but it would be really looked down on. 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:29.400 I still was raising money for Palestine. I always whenever 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:32.080 something was going on, I have to say something. There's 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:36.400 innocent people at stake and not and the media is controlled, right, 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:38.760 so I have to put myself out there. But now 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:41.560 as an entrepreneur, I feel really lucky. You know, so 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:43.279 many of my clients are Jewish, so many of my 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:46.919 friends are Jewish. They know that, like daily I advocate 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:51.080 for everyone, all races, black, white, Jewish, doesn't matter. So 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:55.080 my daily actions show that I'm a fair person who 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:58.039 loves everyone. So it gives me a platform now to 0:04:58.160 --> 0:05:00.520 just be able to speak freely. So many of my 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:02.839 clients are Jewish and literally they're like, keep talking, You're 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:05.880 educating me so much. So it feels good this time 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:09.640 around that people are actually listening. But man, it's been 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:11.840 a tough week. It's been a tough ten days. 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:14.240 So for those people who are listening to our podcasts 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:17.400 who are business people and who want to say something 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:19.640 but are not sure. To Mandy's point, when Black Lives 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:22.520 Matter came out, I mean, I'm black, Mandy is black, 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:25.560 and so I felt more educated to be like, this 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:28.279 is what's happening, because this is happening into my community. 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:29.960 Are well aware, but I feel like there are a 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:33.320 lot of people who want to say something and through 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:34.320 their business, but. 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:38.239 Are afraid because I don't know the history. I don't 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:38.479 you know. 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:40.760 I've watched a couple of videos and I'm not sure. 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:41.840 I'm like, is this the right video? 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:42.080 Is this? 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:45.320 How does one one? Where can we find education? And 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:48.120 then two how can we start to integrate that into it? 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:49.440 For those who want to speak. 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:52.240 Out, Yeah, I would say number one is seek out 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:56.720 Palestinian voices, go follow me on Instagram. There's so many 0:05:56.720 --> 0:06:00.960 people Sean King is posting a lot of stuff that 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:03.640 gives people insight of what's actually going on on the 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:04.320 other side. 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:05.560 And you need to. 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:08.400 Proactively seek out these voices because what you watch on 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:10.440 TV and in the news is only going to give 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:14.480 you one side. One side is literally controlled by propaganda 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:18.159 and is basically paid for by the other side, right, 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:21.320 And so if you want to seek out other sources, 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:21.960 they have to. 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:23.760 Be online on social media. 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:27.560 Seek out Human Rights Watch put out a report about 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:32.200 the apartheid, Amnesty International put out a report about the apartheide. 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:34.040 You can read through all those reports that will give 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:37.240 you all the history, current and previous that you need 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:41.440 to understand. And then there's lots of documentaries about Gaza 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:45.400 that you can look up and watch. So I would 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:47.360 say seek out voices. The other thing I would say 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:51.600 is like, you've got to refuse to be called an 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:55.080 anti semi when you want to speak about human rights. 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:58.640 So every post that you write, I'm not an anti semit, 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:02.160 I am awed to speak freely, and I am pro 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:04.960 human rights, I am pro peace, and then start off 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:07.720 whatever you're going to say, you know, because that's the 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:10.720 one thing that we need to start to isolate is 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:11.280 that this. 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:13.000 Is not a religious issue. 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:16.200 This is a human rights issue. There's actually a lot 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:19.400 of Jewish people. Jewish people storm the Capitol, Jewish Voice 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:23.120 for Peace, if not now or all, these are like 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:26.520 huge Jewish organizations that three sixty five days a year, 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:30.280 even before this conflict, are trying to work towards equal 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:32.240 human rights from Palestinians in a region. 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:32.560 Right. 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:35.640 So there's just a lot going on, and I think 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:37.880 the number one thing that I want from leaders, and 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:40.160 you know, we weren't expecting to talk about Palestine on 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:42.200 this podcast. I do not need to talk about this 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:44.880 this whole time. But the number one thing that I 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:48.800 think leaders should seriously consider is at least foster a 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:53.680 dialogue in your business. At least recognize that the Arabic 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:56.480 people and Palastine people that may work for you, they're 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:59.840 not doing well right now. They need to be treated 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:04.480 like humans, be given humanity. Their people are literally a 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:08.280 genocide is happening in Palestine, and we're hurt. You know, 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:10.600 we don't feel like our lives are valued. I think 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:12.960 that we're in a very similar spot to how black 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:15.920 people felt during black lives matter, when everybody was screaming 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:19.640 all lives matter. Meanwhile, we're having a genocide, right, So 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:25.160 it's tough. And I think having open dialogue, not persecuting 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:30.480 people for speaking out, you know, and advocating for people 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:32.600 to have healthy dialogues with each other. This is the 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:35.120 only way that us as a society is going to 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:37.400 be able to move forward is if we actually have 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:41.800 open dialogues and if people start learning new information on 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:44.800 both sides so that we have like more empathy towards 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:45.200 each other. 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:47.920 And that takes dialogues. 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:50.640 So not closing down comments when you put up a post, 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:54.880 not persecuting people for speaking up, and again just like 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:57.240 fostering this open dialogue. 0:08:57.760 --> 0:08:59.560 And often getting out of the way of people like 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:00.120 yourself and. 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:02.760 Letting you Yeah, I don't know how many people have. 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:04.360 Maybe I don't need to make a statement. Maybe I 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:06.520 need to amplify a statement that you make exactly. 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:09.280 And I have everybody who knows me personally, they're like, 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:11.439 holl to keep going, like we love you, blah blah blah. 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:13.679 Then I have these strangers that don't know. 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:16.000 Me that are like you're an anti semi how like 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:21.040 you're spreading misinformation and like harassing me. And it's like, bro, like, 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:24.480 I'm literally Palestinian and have lived the apartheid myself. Do 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:27.040 not gaslight me about what is truth and what is 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:27.520 not for me. 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:30.600 Yeah, And it's crazy when you come from a group 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:34.840 that is largely oppressed and then the world tells you 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:38.240 like may not. You're like, I'm sorry, I look like 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:42.200 this every day. I know the feeling. I know what 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:44.920 it feels like to navigate from a space of having 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:48.440 less than for no other reason than you know, the 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:51.640 origin of my birth. And so you know, I just 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:54.400 it's been really, really, really and I just have felt 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:55.160 hands tacked. 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:57.400 I'm like, I'm not really sure because I'm not afraid 0:09:57.440 --> 0:09:58.080 to say something. 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:02.920 It's just I didn't feel educated enough to join the conversation, 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:05.679 you know, because I'm just like, I mean, but I 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:09.080 know the murder is wrong, no matter what side, and 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:11.520 I know that lives have been taken on both sides, 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:13.280 and I just feel like, across the board, that's wrong, 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:16.600 you know. But I also know, you know, from because 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:19.880 I am black and visibly black, that for brown people 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:23.640 across the world, that often our voices are more easily suppressed. 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:25.480 I mean, I'm seeing there was this. I just was 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:28.560 reading this morning on like ink dot com that there's 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:32.120 this conference in that they do every year in Europe. 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:34.400 I think it's called like the Global or something Summit, 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:38.520 and the CEO or the whatever. The conference leader let 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:41.000 me s if I can find it. He said something 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:45.080 that just basically said, like, you know, like killing people 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:48.840 is wrong and that genocide is not okay. Facebook dropped 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:51.560 out of the conference. Google dropped out of the conference, and. 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:54.120 I was like, wait, it is it wrong to say they? 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:57.960 So he literally he didn't say I'm with It's just hey, 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:01.800 like genocide is not okay, killing people is not okay. 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:05.079 We should have peace, just that simple. And people are 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:08.520 dropping out because like, what are we saying so it 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:10.840 is okay to kill people? I just I'm confused about 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:11.600 what the pushbacks. 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:14.800 It's really crazy because at this point it's not about 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:19.800 being pro Palestinian, it's about being anti genocide right, because 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:25.079 both sides have done wrong things right since nineteen forty eight. 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:28.400 I can give everybody a quick history lesson about why 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:32.840 this all started. Right nineteen forty eight, after World War Two, 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:37.880 Britain sent Jewish refugees from World War Two to Palestine. 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:38.480 Okay. 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:42.440 At this point, Palestinians welcome Jewish people with open arms. 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:45.880 They even let them in their homes and everything was okay. 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:47.640 A year later, the. 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:52.679 British armed Jewish people to take over Palestine. They forcibly 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:57.240 drove out eight hundred thousand people out of five hundred villages. 0:11:57.280 --> 0:12:00.920 They killed fifteen thousand people. These are the descendants of 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:03.400 the people in Gaza right now. They're refugees that were 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:07.319 literally forcibly removed from their homes. People are still living 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:10.480 in homes that they have that Palestinans have the keys. 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:10.760 To their homes. 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.360 Their grandmothers still have the keys of their homes. There's 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:16.640 Jewish settlers and people in Israel who literally live in 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:20.240 the same homes that Palestinians used to live in. They 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:24.040 have a saying they took it fully furnished, because they 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:27.120 literally just moved into people's houses with their furniture. 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:27.600 Okay. 0:12:28.080 --> 0:12:31.280 And so these people are now in Gaza as refugees 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:34.319 and they've been blockaded for sixteen years. They're not allowed 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:37.600 to leave. They're blockaded from Egypt and Israel, not allowed 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:41.840 to leave. And these people Hamas who committed the actions 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:45.400 on October seventh have been under blockade. Most of these 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:48.520 people are between seventeen and thirty seven years old, most 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:50.880 of either their entire lives or most of their lives. 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:54.240 Not even allowed to leave Gaza, Okay. They're trapped in 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:56.520 an open air prison. A better name for it is 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:59.400 a concentration camp. Because they committed no crime other than 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:02.680 being palace. They're not allowed to leave a city that 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:06.200 is the size of Detroit, Okay, and it is. 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:07.400 Blocked off by a wall. 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:11.760 And that is one part of the occupied territories in Israel. 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:15.360 The other occupied territory is the West Bank. And so 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:17.680 the West Bank is a small piece of land that 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:21.000 was given to the Palestinians. It is occupied. People have 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:23.640 to drive on separate roads, their water is rationed. All 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:28.360 this is all controlled. There's checkpoints and so on. And again, 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:32.000 if somebody gets killed in the West Bank, there's no 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:34.839 persecution of any Israeli that did it. And people are 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:39.600 still stealing people's homes, demolishing homes, stealing land, and they're 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:41.440 just taking over more and more of the West Bank. 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:44.360 They don't respect the boundaries that they gave the Palestine 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:48.240 people before this conflict. Two hundred and fifty people were murdered, 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:52.920 including forty seven children, by Israeli radical settlers. Nobody talks 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:57.199 about this, right, so it was not unprovoked. It was 0:13:57.280 --> 0:14:01.640 seventy six years of oppression and literally like violence ongoing 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:03.400 to Palestinians constantly. 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:04.720 They're basically controlled. 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:08.400 It's like segregation like how it was back in the 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:11.720 day in America, right, that is what's going on in 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:17.440 the region. And so then this Hamas attack happened. Of course, 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:20.320 nobody can doone that, but we can't help for people 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:23.120 to be radicalized. If they're literally trapped behind a wall 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:27.640 and have don't have equal rights and they're you know, 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:31.040 family is killed, bombed every five years and whatever, right, 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:34.120 people are obviously going to become radicalized. They're not treated equally. 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:37.680 So that's the root cause of the problem, and that's 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:39.280 what people need to get educated on. 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:43.160 I can't imagine. I mean, I mean, I don't feel 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:46.000 like this just it lakes me so sad and heartbroken 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:49.120 beyond the stories that I've heard, And there are some 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:52.560 journalists out there who are working really hard to get 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:56.520 in touch with Palestinian voices because like electricity is not 0:14:57.200 --> 0:14:59.000 you know, something that you can take for granted there 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:01.200 a lot of places don't have I heard that some 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:04.520 people are using car batteries because they have anticipated power 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:07.880 outages before. Yeah, car batteries just to charge their phone, 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:10.160 solar panels just to get electricity. But anyway, it's hard 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:12.600 to communicate. But the stories that I have heard of 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:17.120 young twenty somethings, families who will just get a phone 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:21.400 call and say, this is the Israeli Army. We're letting 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:23.280 you know there's going to be a strike, get out now, 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:25.360 and then they don't know if that's real or if 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:28.120 they need to like pack up and leave, and that 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:31.160 state of high alert, that state of fear, and I 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:33.880 know that it's been going on for decades as you've described, 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:37.280 Like that's for me, it's never okay. And I feel 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:40.040 like we just don't learn from our own frickin history. 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:43.160 I know it's great for I and A does not 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:44.720 equate peace. 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:47.000 I mean, what happened is that people came over from 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:50.560 World War Two after the Nazis and everything, and they 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:54.560 came to Palestine like ready to do anything to just survive, 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:58.520 and they put all that evil negativity on the Palestinians 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:00.680 and then just did it. Did this same thing that 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:03.800 happened to them, literally to the Palestinians, and we had 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:07.640 nothing to do with the Holocaust, right, So I feel 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:10.640 that the Palestinians have taken the brunt of the Holocaust, 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:14.560 like all the pain and the terror and everything has 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:18.520 just for seventy six years, Palestinians have been unrightfully punished 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:20.120 for something they did not do. 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:23.920 So I remember I went to Jordan earlier this year, 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:27.440 and I just couldn't believe the separation, like, oh, what 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:30.040 is the river that Jesus was baptized in the Jordan river? 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:34.800 And I just remember being like wow, there's literally like 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:37.240 this line and they made it very clear, do not. 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:40.360 I I was in Jordan on the Jordan side, do 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:43.320 not get close to this life. And the river wasn't 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:45.000 it wasn't a part of the river that was very wide. 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:47.720 It was it wasn't as wide as a street like 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:51.640 you know, and like I just remember thinking like wow, 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:55.800 like you know, for so many people, you know, like 0:16:55.840 --> 0:17:00.360 whether you're Christian or Jewish or or Muslim, since it's 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:03.240 a figure in all three of those like religious whatever 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:06.439 that figure takes on, whether it's a prophet or savior 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:06.920 or whatever. 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:08.920 But I just remember thinking, how sad is it. 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:14.760 That this important, beautiful place to these three religions is 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:18.000 radicalized where I can be in the water that's clearly 0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:20.159 touching both sides, but I can't get close to this 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:22.840 imaginary line that men have created. 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:25.160 And I just thought, wow, it just. 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:28.959 Seemed it was such a beautiful place Jordan, but this 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:32.560 underlying sense of like impending violence, and I just remember 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:34.960 thinking like it just seemed that part just hit me 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:36.080 as really sad, like. 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:40.679 Yeah, yeah, I think the craziest part of all this, 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:44.800 Tiffany and Mandy is the misinformation going on, and like 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:49.040 the bubble that Israelis have lived in. You know, they 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:53.200 get their birthrate paid for the American Jewish people, right, 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:55.879 they go over to Israel, and they don't see the 0:17:55.920 --> 0:17:57.040 occupied territories. 0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:58.480 They see the few people. 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:02.160 There's like two million Poustinians or Arab Israelis they call them, 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:03.359 that live in Israel, that. 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:06.440 Sort of have equal rights. So people teach them that. 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:09.000 See, these are the Palestinians. They live freely with us. 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:12.040 But it's really not the whole story. They don't show 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:14.240 them the West Bank, they don't tell them about Gaza, 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:16.520 they don't tell them they're not even allowed to learn 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:20.800 about the Nepka in history in Israel, so they don't 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:23.560 even know that happened. They don't know that, like it 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:26.840 started with ethnic cleansing, and so there's just all this 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:32.919 misinformation and essentially me having an identity of being Palestinian, 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:38.320 it is threatening to anybody who has an Israeli identity 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:41.080 because it threatens their identity. So they want to act 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:43.840 like we don't exist, or we were a lost people, 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:47.119 or Israel was a land with no people, but in reality, 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:50.240 we were ethnically cleansed, and even now Gaza is being 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:53.600 ethnically cleansed with they forced a million people to move 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:55.359 out of their homes and they bombed all their homes. 0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:58.040 Now those million people they have nowhere to go. They 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:00.639 might end up going to Egypt or Syria yea, and 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:03.480 they're just again like moving more Palestinians out. 0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:04.800 The last thing I'll. 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:08.600 Say about this is that there's five million Palestinians still 0:19:08.760 --> 0:19:11.920 living in the occupied territories of Palestine which are now Israel, 0:19:12.240 --> 0:19:15.040 and there's like seven or eight million Israelis. It's like 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:18.399 literally almost half the people are still Palestinian there, and 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:22.399 there's like ten million Palestinians outside of there that basically 0:19:22.440 --> 0:19:24.520 are refugees now not allowed to go back. 0:19:25.320 --> 0:19:26.960 So it's a big issue. 0:19:26.960 --> 0:19:29.320 Like there's people who are alive today that both think 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:33.160 that they're Palestinian. There's people alive today that believe there Israeli. 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:35.600 We need to figure it out. We need to live 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:36.359 in peace together. 0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:39.600 Yeah, Nope, but thank you so much for I think 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:41.520 it's so great to get a perspective. 0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:44.800 This was not our intention we brought. Yeah, but I'm glad. 0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:47.680 I'm like, it's just so crazy, like what I. 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:48.920 Want to give you. 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:52.920 I know you're so passionate about it, as you should be, 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:54.320 and this is the moment, and I'm so glad that 0:19:54.359 --> 0:19:55.919 we have a platform we can share with you and 0:19:55.960 --> 0:19:57.119 that you're using your own for that. 0:19:57.320 --> 0:19:58.439 Yeah. 0:19:58.520 --> 0:20:01.080 Oh, I feel like we need a little deep breath moment. 0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:04.200 How do you, I know, to take care of yourself 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:08.200 in your palestinianbns? You know anyone who's affected by this. 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:13.560 Where honestly, like it really sucks guys, Like there's not 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:16.040 a lot of us, not a lot of us with 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:19.480