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Speaker 1: that there's a piece of that character in every character

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Speaker 1: she plays. You know what I mean? Well, before she

424
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 1: has any character she plays, she is Drew Barrymore. Of course. Um.

425
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 1: One of her performances that I actually really love that

426
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Speaker 1: she might have won an award for. She did the

427
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: Great Gardens Movie with Jessica Lang. Um. There was an

428
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 1: HBO film that's based on you know, the documentary, and

429
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,880
Speaker 1: she's so good in it as little Eady. I've literally

430
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 1: never seen it. Well Trueiform will do an episode on it,

431
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 1: you know, at some point in the future. Okay, Scream.

432
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: One of the reasons why I love Scream is because

433
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Speaker 1: it's this meta movie. It's a horror movie that's about

434
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 1: horror movies, which I did not realize because when I

435
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 1: first got into it, I was like, oh, this is

436
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 1: a straightforward slasher. But yeah, the the you know, the

437
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 1: nerdy character like the film nerd spends the whole movie

438
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: talking about the rules of horror movies and that is

439
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: what the whole franchise is built around. And even the

440
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,679
Speaker 1: killers who were unmasked eventually revealed that they've been using

441
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: the archetypes of horror movies, you know, like the virgin

442
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 1: and then the slut and like the all of those

443
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:07,479
Speaker 1: to build their narrative. I feel like there, I think

444
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: I just didn't expect the movie to be as like

445
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 1: deep as it was. I don't know if deep is

446
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 1: like the right word, but like it's definitely smart for

447
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: us a nineties teen slasher movie, yeah exactly. I think

448
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: I just wasn't expected like any other, like you know,

449
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: horror skeptics out there like me, or people that think

450
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: like a movie like Scream is not for you, which

451
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: is kind of like where I was at, Like it

452
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 1: really like I came away from the movie being like

453
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: I actually have like a shifted perspective on the genre,

454
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Speaker 1: like on horror movies because of the commentary within the film,

455
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: Like I just thought it was very smart. Um, like

456
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: I just left. I mean them talking about the final

457
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 1: girl and them talking about like the motivation of a killer,

458
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 1: and like there were so many just different components of

459
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 1: it where I was like, Oh, this is amazing. Who

460
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: do you have a favorite final girl in general? Out

461
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 1: of all horror movies? I mean, um, maybe this is

462
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 1: too obvious, but in House of Wax, Harris Hilton does

463
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: die in Sexy Laundree after getting her achules tendants sliced. Well,

464
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 1: then she's not a final girl because she doesn't survive. Well, oh, oh,

465
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: is the final girl archetypes someone who the final girl

466
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: is the girl who? Okay, and the real answer is

467
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: my favorite final girl is Kyle Richards in Real Housewives

468
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: of Beverly Hills as the last one standing in the

469
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: horror that is that franchise. That is a really good answer.

470
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 1: Kyle Richards, Who's you know? Made her comeback in Halloween

471
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 1: Kills the movie we have not seen because we heard

472
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: it was bad, but we might have by the time

473
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: this episode comes out. I guess in the pantheon a

474
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 1: final girls, like you know, Jamie Lee Curtis is, She's it.

475
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: She is the blueprint for all these other hos. Trauma.

476
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 1: It's a movie. It's a film about trauma, trauma, trauma, trauma, trauma. Um. Yeah,

477
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 1: she should be in every horror movie. Though. I think

478
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: Jamie Lee Curtis should be in most films, and she

479
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: is in most films. She low key is and she's

480
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: in a lot of yo play commercials. Oh no, what's

481
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: the yogurt? Because it's because it's good for your digestion,

482
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 1: it's good for your bones, it's good for your bones

483
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 1: and for people like Jamie Lee Curtis. So if you

484
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: relate to Jamie Lee Curtis, you'll love this yogurt anyways. Um, so,

485
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're like first horror movie was,

486
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 1: but like I was super duper scared of all horror

487
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: movies growing up. Um, because when you are super duper Christian.

488
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: Anything in the horror genre is like brew Headia. It's

489
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: like the Devil. It's like something that's super forbidden or

490
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: dark or like linked to like a dark spirit, like

491
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: literally not joking, that's like the framework within like my

492
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: family was functioning. So the first I didn't see a

493
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: scary movie until I was like sixteen, like fifteen sixteen,

494
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: like I was older, and all my friends by then

495
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: had seen one, and I had a friend who was

496
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: obsessed with horror movies. My best friend in fourth grade,

497
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: Katie bid Strip. You were low key a bully to

498
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: me but also my best friend, and you were coming

499
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: for you. Katie a part of a long lineage of

500
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: best friends who eventually become my bullies. And anyways, that

501
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: felt that felt pointed. I don't know what you're talking about, um,

502
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: And she like basically taped my eyes open and made

503
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: me watch the entire Saw franchise. So are you the

504
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: kind of person who during a scary movie you cover

505
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: your eyes or Okay, I get that. I used to

506
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: be like that. What I would do when I used

507
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: to watch like are you afraid of the dark? When

508
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: I was a kid, is I would kind of go

509
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: to the door of my room and stand there and

510
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: be kind of half in, half out, so that I could,

511
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: you know, duck out during a really scary part. There's

512
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: this one episode of Are You Afraid of the Dark

513
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: where there's this jester who's like in a comic book

514
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: and he is blue drool, and it's so scary. I'm

515
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: so I'm just like really triggered by what you just

516
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: said because you just made me think of Goose Bumps

517
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: and how that terrorized Goose. It's the scariest thing I've

518
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: ever watched. I was a child. I was a child,

519
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: and I had bully neighbors. There are a lot of

520
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: themes going on at this podcast. Can you detect them? Um?

521
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: I had neighbors that lived in my cul deest act.

522
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: There was six and seven, six or seven of them,

523
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: and they all like knew I was a fag and

524
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: like made me, you know, their immediate victim. And one

525
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: of them had that really scary mask from the first

526
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: Goose Bumps the Haunted Masks episode, the Haunted mask, and

527
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: chased me down the street wearing it like like five

528
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: five or six blocks until I ran hunt. That is

529
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: pretty traumatic. Was well, once you started watching scary movies?

530
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Speaker 1: Did you gain an appreciation for horror? Do you do

531
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: you like the action of do you like being afraid

532
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: when you're in general? Rightfully, after Sawgate, after my best

533
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: friend Slash Greatest Bully tortured me and made me watch

534
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: all the song movies, I took a long break, and

535
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: then when everyone started talking about get Out, I was like, Okay,

536
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: I will go and see that movie. I may be

537
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,959
Speaker 1: seen a few horror movies in between, but get Out

538
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: was the first horror movie I willingly watched, and I

539
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: went to the theater alone to go and see it

540
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: because I was just really invested in like the story

541
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: it was going to tell. And even though like I

542
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: I personally feel like and maybe horror purists will say,

543
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: it's like, it's not a horror, it's like more of

544
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: a psychological thriller that has like a little horror, But

545
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: I just was so enraptured by the movie for obvious reasons,

546
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: but also just the fact that it had deconstructed what

547
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: I thought a horror movie could be. Because I had

548
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: that kind of like stigma that like a lot of people,

549
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: you know, think, which is that horror movies are all

550
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: sensationalism and don't have any like depth at all. Well,

551
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: we're in a kind of golden age of horror right

552
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: now where horror is like very elevated, um, and we

553
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: just think about horror movies differently. They still don't at

554
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: the same kind of credit as other types of films. Um.

555
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: And I think that's something that Scream like Relish is in,

556
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: Like it is not apologizing for being a horror movie

557
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: or a slasher movie. It's very gleeful about it, and

558
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: I think that's why it's so entertaining. I also love,

559
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: you know, the Killers, Like they're very clearly like a

560
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: gay couple. They are they so are they? There's that

561
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: one image of them like standing together that always like

562
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: makes the rounds on Twitter about them like being together.

563
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's fan fiction about them, and I might

564
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: go actually look them up after we're finished recording today.

565
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: They look like a very specific kind of gay couple.

566
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: Like they look like they just they're looking for a

567
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: third Yeah, a third at Spectrum Yeah no not not

568
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: Holy Mountain. No. I think they're a little dirty three

569
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: dollar bill, three dollar bill, yeah, dollar bill or like

570
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: maybe mood ring and yeah, yeah, mood ring okay, okay, okay,

571
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: um have So now that you've watch Scream, will you

572
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: be going and watching any of the sequels? Okay? So

573
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: I did, in fact fall asleep to Scream too and

574
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: Scream three. So Scream two is Sydneys in college, right,

575
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: and there's like a play that she's in, I believe. Well,

576
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: it's pretty much every sequel contains a parodied version of

577
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: Scream well, right, because then they start making the movies,

578
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,239
Speaker 1: which the Stab series and Scream three is much more

579
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: about that. Scream three also has Parker Posey, who is amazing.

580
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: And so if you haven't watched any of these, the

581
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: gist is there's a movie within a movie, or rather

582
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: a franchise within a franchise, and the one within is

583
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: called Stab and like Stab two, Stab three, which doesn't

584
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: have the same kind of ring to it that Scream does,

585
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: but it's really funny, like it's just things like that.

586
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: It's just it's such a there's such succinct punchlines. And

587
00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: I was reading that um when spoiler alert, Jada pinkeets

588
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: Smith dies in the beginning that she told the director

589
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: that she wanted to have the most gruesome death in

590
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: the history of horror movies like she said that, like

591
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: to the director. Good for her. Honestly, it wasn't that gruesome.

592
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: The movies do get increasingly meta as they go on.

593
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 1: Scream Scream For has Emma Roberts in it, and spoiler alert,

594
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: she's well, she's Sydney's cousin, and you find out, like

595
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: towards the end of the movie that she is one

596
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 1: of the killers and she's been engineering this whole thing

597
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: to make herself into a victim so that she can

598
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: be as famous as Sydney Prescott. But you know, obviously

599
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: she fails at the end. And I actually think it's

600
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: one of the best of the screams um And also

601
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 1: Hayden Penny Tier isn't it And she has a very

602
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: gay haircut. And I don't understand why her character in

603
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: the movie isn't her name's Kirby. I don't get why

604
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 1: she's Kirby is such a lesbian. Get why she's not

605
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: just gay? She should play gay in general? Like Hidden Penetier,

606
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 1: I absolutely would stand. Okay, I think that the question

607
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 1: on the tip of all of our virgins, like tongues

608
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: is um. It was screamed for the one where Gail

609
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: Weather's debuted her turf Bangs. No, that was Scream three

610
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: is when turf Bangs became a thing. Wow? Was she

611
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: also like holding a copy of like um, a Robert

612
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: Gale Braith novel. Nev Campbell did kind of set herself

613
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: up as a Scream queen by starring in this movie.

614
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 1: I think this was before The Craft, which also iconic. Well,

615
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: also you made me watch Yeah, well, no, we didn't

616
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: watch The Craft. We watched to the sequel to The Craft.

617
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: No we didn't. Yeah, we did the one that came

618
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: out last year, but you have you have still never

619
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: seen the original Craft movie. Oh my god, and the

620
00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: Craft and the Craft two is bad. Yeah, the reboot

621
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: was really bad, and I mean yeah, I really wanted

622
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: to like it because of the trans character. Yeah there's

623
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: a trans character, but she was. We love her. But

624
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 1: it's not a good movie. It's not a good movie

625
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: and it will never be. It's no one will ever

626
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: be for a balk. You better take some notes from

627
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: the real rebootmakers, like um The Witches starring and hat

628
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 1: Away Rose damnus favorite movie. It's not a favorite favorite,

629
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: but it is. I do enjoy it a lot. In

630
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 1: we can't talk about Scream without answering the question that

631
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: ghost Face poses. What's your favorite scary movie? Like scary movies? Um,

632
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 1: what is your favorite scary movie? Friends? I don't know

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Speaker 1: if I am if I've consumed enough horror to like

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Speaker 1: maybe have a favorite. Um, but I will remember Hereditary

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Speaker 1: until I die. And And but the thing is, and

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Speaker 1: I think this is like similar to maybe not your answer,

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Speaker 1: but I think a lot of people I know I

638
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: have a similar experience of like, I'm not sure I'm

639
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Speaker 1: going to remember it because I like loved watching it.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna remember it because I was traumatized

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Speaker 1: all the way through. But I do think that there's

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Speaker 1: something like the fact that I was so like kind

643
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: of viscerally shaken. It's just a testament how well it

644
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: was done. My old apartment in New York had very

645
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: tall ceilings, and after seeing Hereditary, I always thought that

646
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: Tony Collette was up there hovering on the ceiling. It's

647
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,720
Speaker 1: an image that will never leave me, that her like swimming.

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00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 1: You know, now when I watch horror movies, I can

649
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: watch them and and kind of make myself less scared

650
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: and be take myself out of it and say, like

651
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: that's just an actor, you know whatever. Um, but not

652
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: with Hereditary. Not with Hereditary. But it's not not my

653
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it's my favorite scary movie. My favorite

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Speaker 1: scary movie is definitely The Shining. It's one of my

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Speaker 1: favorite films. Haven't yet And actually, during the beginning of

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Speaker 1: the pandemic, when we were really in lockdown, I decided

657
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Speaker 1: it was a good time to finally read The Shining,

658
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: which is literally about people being locked inside a hotel.

659
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: I don't know why I did that to myself. Um,

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00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: the book is a lot different than the film, and

661
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: I actually really enjoyed it and it kind of enriched

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Speaker 1: my experience of the movie. And um, there's also no

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Speaker 1: a sequel film to it, Doctor Sleep, which is based

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Speaker 1: on the sequel that Stephen King wrote. And Stephen King

665
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 1: famously like doesn't like The Shining movie because, yeah, because

666
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Speaker 1: it's very different than the book. And I think he

667
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: said something along the lines of, you know, it's a

668
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: great art film, but it's not really like a great

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Speaker 1: adaptation of the book. And I think that's true to

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Speaker 1: a point because The Shining is so beautiful, um, and

671
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: the book is like a lot more layered, you know,

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00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 1: most books are when you talk about movie adaptations, but

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Speaker 1: Dr Sleep does a really good job of going of

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Speaker 1: minding what happens in the Shining novel and merging it

675
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: with the movie adaptation in a really beautiful way. Um.

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Speaker 1: And I also love Rebecca Ferguson, who plays the villain

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Speaker 1: in the movie. Um. I have never seen The Shining,

678
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Speaker 1: as I said, UM, but I'm not much for like

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00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: a Jack Nicholson vehicle. But maybe, I mean, maybe that's

680
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Speaker 1: for shallow reasons because he just always plays like you.

681
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 1: But what about Oh, she's amazing, you need to watch

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Speaker 1: The Shining. Um. I also have to say with Stephen

683
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Speaker 1: King's books, love love the guy. Well, actually we don't.

684
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: Didn't wasn't he the person on Twitter that like basically

685
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Speaker 1: said that like white privilege doesn't exist or something like that.

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Speaker 1: You know, Stephen King is actually the first adult novel

687
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Speaker 1: I ever read was carry I was at the library

688
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: when I was in I want to say fourth grade,

689
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Speaker 1: and I saw Carrie on the shelf and I think

690
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: maybe liked the book cover and picked it up and

691
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: read it at far too young of an age. Was

692
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Speaker 1: very impressionable, so much about you, and it did really

693
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Speaker 1: set the scene I love. I love the Carry film,

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Speaker 1: the Brian to Palma film. Did you like the reboot

695
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: with Cloud? Grace Marts never seen it and Julianne Moore

696
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: never seen it. It was honestly not terrible. What I

697
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: did not like is the Rage Carry Too, which came

698
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Speaker 1: out in the early two thousands, and there's one scene

699
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: in which the um, the girl, the main character who

700
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Speaker 1: is like the Carry character, kills people by having making

701
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Speaker 1: CDs fly at them and cut them with her mind.

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Speaker 1: What yeah, that's I mean, I still kind of want

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Speaker 1: to watch it. That sounds camp. A recent horror movie

704
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: that has become one of my favorite movies definitely is

705
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: in now. I would say my top ten favorite films

706
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Speaker 1: is Suspiria two, the remake of the of the like

707
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: iconic horror film um and I just I love it

708
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: so much, A film I had to turn off at.

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Speaker 1: You know the part that you probably know what I'm

710
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: talking about. It's a very disgusting. Oh the scene we're

711
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Speaker 1: within the dance studio where she gets torn up. Watch

712
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: Dakoda Johnson. Oh my god, Dacoda Johnson isn't that movie?

713
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: And she looks Dakoda Johnson until the Swinton. Also Chloe

714
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: Grace Martze's in it. Oh, of course. One question I

715
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:46,240
Speaker 1: have to bring this all back is why is Scream

716
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Speaker 1: five or Scream Screme? Why is it coming out in

717
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: January because it's a winter movie. Maybe they're trying to

718
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: get into that shining slot because the Shining is not

719
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: like a Halloween movie. It's like a winter movie. Yeah,

720
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Speaker 1: but I you usually do watch it during Halloween season. Really,

721
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: but I actually guess I would feel comfortable watching it

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00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: like kind of any time. Maybe, right, it's Chile in January,

723
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: in January, I will watch the Shining. Yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 1: What about Scream other than Drew Barrymore is Bob makes

725
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: it like a kind of gay cult classic because it's

726
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: it's camp. It's just pure. It's pure camp it is,

727
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: and camp that is and it's self aware exactly, you know,

728
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Speaker 1: as they say, or as the definition of camp goes.

729
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: The two definitions of camp are in like camp in

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Speaker 1: its purest form where it doesn't know it's camp, like

731
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: Mommy Dearest or Um or Judy Garland. And then camp

732
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Speaker 1: that is highly aware of itself, like that like Scream

733
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Speaker 1: or RuPaul people bleep, not the which actually makes sense

734
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Speaker 1: that Scream is camp because when I almost went to

735
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Speaker 1: the camp met Gala, I was thinking of going as

736
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Speaker 1: Gail Weathers from Scream in her lime green skirt suit,

737
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: which would have been so good. It would have been

738
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: so good. But I don't know if people would have

739
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Speaker 1: like automatically gotten the reference they don't need to, because

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Speaker 1: I think it would have been kind of immediately like

741
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Speaker 1: they don't need to. They would have just been like,

742
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Speaker 1: who's that bitch in the lime green skirt with the

743
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: turf banks, with the turf banks on like a comically

744
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: big microphone, comically big. I I do love how I

745
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: see myself in Gail Weathers in that um. She will

746
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: celebrate herself at all costs totally, and she is extremely

747
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: callous and all she's trying to do is get that story,

748
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: that story, even if she has to fabric kate it.

749
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Speaker 1: I love in Scary Movie, the Gail Weather's characters played

750
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: by Ryo Terry from Saturday Night Live, and there's one

751
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: scene at the beginning where she is reporting live in

752
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: front of the school and says, you know, there there's

753
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: a like rampage that's left four teens dead, and uh,

754
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: like teenager tried starts bothering her, and she just pulls

755
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: a gun out and shoots him and turns back to

756
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: the camera. Goes five teams dead. No, so good. You

757
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: have to watch scary movie. I probably want. I'm not

758
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: gonna lie, but so funny. What I want to know

759
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 1: is what news site do you think Gale Withers would

760
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 1: write for? In Huffington Post period down. The Huffington Post

761
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: doesn't have a video budget. First of all, um, the Federalist.

762
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: Oh no, well, what's the one? It's not Newsweek, it's um,

763
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,479
Speaker 1: the New York Post. No, no, the New York Post.

764
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 1: Actually yeah, or like the Daily Beast, The Times, the

765
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: Daily Atlantic. It's Michael barbar Do you want to know

766
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: do you want to hear my Michael Barbaro impression? I

767
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: don't actually know who that is. Michael Barbarro is the

768
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 1: host of The Daily. Oh I forgot that. You famously

769
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: have never listened to a podcast, not even this one.

770
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: So everyone listening to this podcast knows The Daily because

771
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 1: they list into the podcast. And The Daily is the

772
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: most famous podcast in the world. It's like the Annointies podcast.

773
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: Michael never heard of it, so it can't be that

774
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: Famie Michael Barbarrow and this is the Daily. Do you

775
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: think that was good? Well, according to your impression, he's no.

776
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: Gail Weathers. No, I mean Gail Gail Weathers should host

777
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 1: The Daily, is what we're saying. Have you noticed in

778
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Speaker 1: recent years that I think this the ghost face mask

779
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 1: from Scream has been claimed by gay guys as like

780
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: something very horny. Yeah, I've watched a lot of Scream

781
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 1: horn there's yeah, there's a lot of porn of people

782
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: wearing the Scream mask. I have a friend who has

783
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Speaker 1: a tattoo of like a hot naked guy wearing the

784
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: ghost face mask with a knife on his thigh. Oh

785
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: my god, that's kind of cool. Actually, I the drag

786
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: show that I saw that had that, you know, it

787
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: was like a Scream tribute show. When they revealed the

788
00:45:56,200 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: final Scream, the final Scream. His name is Son, his

789
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: name is Scream. And when they finally revealed screaming like

790
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: took first he like disrobed and he was wearing like

791
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: a leather jockstrap and then he took off his mask

792
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: and it was just like this hot guy with like

793
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: blood dripping out of his mouth. And yeah, it was

794
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: it was incredible. Ghost face doesn't drink blood. Scream definitely

795
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: drinks blood. First of all, yes he does, Segnal. I

796
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 1: also didn't know that Screams Mask wasn't his name. Isn't

797
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: realized that Screams Mask wasn't invented by the movie. It

798
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: existed before the movie. It was like a generic Halloween costume.

799
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Speaker 1: Did you know that? I did not know that. That's crazy.

800
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,919
Speaker 1: They took like, do you think that someone else owns

801
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: the rights to like Screams Face. No, Scream definitely owns

802
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 1: the right to ghost face. Right, how have you ever

803
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: worn a ghost face mask? I actually can't wear a

804
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: Halloween mask of any kind because of as we said

805
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: at the beginning, ghost bumps in the Haunted Mask, Because

806
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,959
Speaker 1: isn't the conceit of that episode just like a child

807
00:46:58,120 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: wears the Haunted Mask and all of a sudden he

808
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: became it will like it won't come off a month, Yeah,

809
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 1: it won't come off and he becomes like a psycho

810
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: killer or whatever. That is like literally my fear every

811
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: time we wear a mask in fact, that it's going

812
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: to mold to your face and face and then I

813
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: will become a psycho killer. Yes, I'm just that sounds

814
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: kind of fun, though, I'm sure it sounds like for you.

815
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: Who needs a mask emblematic of this thing that I

816
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: experienced When I was seven or eight, My um best

817
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 1: friend let me like hand me down his Darth Vader

818
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: costume um that I so I could wear it for Halloween.

819
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 1: And I tried it on and looked in the mirror

820
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: and was so scared that I had to take it

821
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: off and be something else by Darth Vader. Yeah, it

822
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 1: was really scared of Darth Vader, and like, well, just

823
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: know it wasn't actually Darth Vader himself. It was looking

824
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: in the mirror and seeing seven year old me as

825
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,720
Speaker 1: Darth Vader and being petrified of the monster I had become.

826
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: Even though it's not Halloween. What is your best ever

827
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: Halloween costume? Uh? Okay, wait, come back to me. What

828
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: was yours? Well, famously, I am really bad at Halloween costumes.

829
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: I don't like them. I like unless the idea, you know,

830
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:29,919
Speaker 1: strikes me, and even then I just like never execute them. Well,

831
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 1: but in recent years I've had two that I liked,

832
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: which were Ms Piggy and Old Rose from Titanic, And

833
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 1: I think for me, a Halloween costume what I want

834
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 1: it to be is like kind of funny, and it

835
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: has to be instantly recognizable and like it gets it,

836
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: like gets the assignment. Like I don't ever want to

837
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 1: have to explain my costume to someone. My prerequisites for

838
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 1: Halloween costumes are that it needs to be sexy. But

839
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be I'm never gonna like wear a

840
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: jock strap, you know, like as like a costume. Like

841
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: I'm not that bad, but I do want it to be,

842
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: like I want to look kind of sexy. So maybe

843
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Speaker 1: my best Halloween well, I don't know if I have

844
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,919
Speaker 1: the best Halloween costume, but I had a really sick

845
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:23,720
Speaker 1: angel costume, like and I had these giant like angel

846
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: wings that I had to like go through the door

847
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: sideways in order to like you know, go into any room.

848
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: And I covered myself in like gold paint, and it

849
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: looked really sick. And I just like I can never

850
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Speaker 1: build up the energy to think of Halloween costumes like you,

851
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Speaker 1: And so I was that angel like for the next

852
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: four years, over the next half four Halloween. Yeah, I

853
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: think maybe that's what I have to do, is just

854
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 1: like decide that Old Rose and are my two Halloween costumes,

855
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: and that's what I do every year. You honestly could

856
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: wear a super duper cute outfit and then just the

857
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: pick knows and everyone would know exactly who you are,

858
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like I feel like that's

859
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 1: all you All you need is like the nose, and

860
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 1: then you can just kind of be like cut I

861
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: either need to be like have a have a good

862
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: costume like that, or like I'm wearing black and I'm

863
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 1: just spooky. Yeah, I'm wearing black and I'm just so

864
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: But that's okay. That's actually a really annoying phenomenon at

865
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: Halloween parties when everyone's like, so what are you? It's like, well,

866
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 1: if it doesn't immediately, if you don't immediately get it,

867
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: like I don't really want to explain it to you, dude.

868
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: So this is all great advice for you virgins when

869
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: Halloween comes around in nine more months, because it's January, right,

870
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: Has Scream inspired you to watch more scary movies? Not

871
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 1: Scream specifically? I think that like as we said earlier,

872
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: like Jordan Peel and Ariaster and those folks um or

873
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: like The Witch, or I loved Invisible Man like this,

874
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 1: like class Invisible Man was really good. Okay, wait, I

875
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: didn't know that you saw it because everyone I know

876
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: hated it. I watched it. I watched it when it

877
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: was on demand, you know, like in early Quarantine. I

878
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 1: saw it in theaters. That was like the last the

879
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 1: movie that came out before COVID. I think it was

880
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 1: the last movie I saw before. But it was really

881
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: I mean it had like three or four endings, like

882
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,760
Speaker 1: it was a long movie. But it was really good. Emma,

883
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: Emma Moss. Elizabeth Moss should be in a lot of

884
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: I mean, she was amazing. She stole a show in US.

885
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: In my opinion, I didn't love Us. Yeah, I didn't

886
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: think it was amazing, but I loved Elizabeth Moss in it.

887
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: Maybe she has like maybe the kind of like um,

888
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,399
Speaker 1: the the way that scientology has like warped her brain

889
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,320
Speaker 1: makes her like better at those kinds of roles or

890
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,959
Speaker 1: things like that. Yeah, she's dealt with real life horror. Yeah,

891
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: exactly in a way that many people have not. If

892
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 1: you were in a horror movie frohim, what is the

893
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,399
Speaker 1: archetype that you would fulfill? I I mean I feel

894
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: like I would die. I think I could really really

895
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: eat and drew Barrymore esque kind of like death that

896
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: like sets the tone for the rest of the movie.

897
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: And I also see myself as dying and then you

898
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: know a lot of people being affected by it. So

899
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 1: you're the person who dies first, and then there's a

900
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:07,320
Speaker 1: candlelight vigil for you at the school. They're playing dancing

901
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 1: Queen by Aba. They've got peonies. So you're gay in

902
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: the movie. Also, well, they're not. No one's gonna cast

903
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: me as like a heterosexual, you know what I mean,

904
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: Like I'm not gonna like walk into the hormone and

905
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:24,240
Speaker 1: be like, hey guys, I'm just here with my girlfriend Cindy,

906
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 1: and you know what I mean, Like like I just

907
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 1: I don't know any casting agent would be like, no,

908
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: let's get darn Chris for the rule, you know what

909
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: I mean. Okay, so you're you're the cameo star who

910
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: does two nights sunset Max Max um but still is

911
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 1: on the press tour. Yes, still is on the press tour,

912
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: still in the poster even maybe oh definitely on the

913
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,399
Speaker 1: post during the post Okay, okay, okay, um. And then

914
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 1: maybe I also see um a really bad like flashback

915
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: or memory for me, something that like the main character

916
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 1: has to like, you know, go back in time and

917
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 1: have this like you know, there's a memory of us

918
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: together and like a I don't know, like a rowboat

919
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,919
Speaker 1: or or it turns out that you like when they're

920
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: trying to figure out who the killer is, you have

921
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: some you have some connection to them, and like a

922
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: big part of the middle chunk of the movie is

923
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 1: them trying to figure out why you were killed, and

924
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: you know, like you were the killing. Like maybe the

925
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: reason they're trying to figure out why it's because the

926
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: main character is maybe some gay man who should be

927
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: cast It would have to be. Anyways, what I was

928
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 1: going to say is the main character is maybe some

929
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: closeted gay man who's having an affair with me and

930
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: then I die at the beginning, and he is trying to,

931
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 1: without disclosing his queerness, solve my murder. Why does he

932
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,479
Speaker 1: have to be closeted? If we've learned this period film,

933
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: if we learned anything from gay movies, well we all

934
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: saw Happiest Season, a movie that felt like it was

935
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 1: made in two thousand two. Um. But anyways, I'm glad

936
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: you mentioned the Murderer so that we can now hop

937
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 1: onto where you come in in the movie, So how

938
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 1: do you kill everybody? Do you think you're right? I

939
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: would be the killer, but no, it would be it

940
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: would be a fake out because I would be the

941
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: sort of like snarky, um, like mean girl or like

942
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 1: somewhere somewhere in there who has a big death scene

943
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: I want to say in the third act of the film.

944
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: But you never see me actually die. And so when

945
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: like I have like a partner who's like my Patsy

946
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: and it seems like they're the killer, and then they

947
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 1: die and I walk out of the shadows, I've been

948
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 1: the killer the whole time. Sick. Okay, Okay, there's an

949
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: added layer to this. I feel that. Um, well, okay,

950
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 1: I'm presuming that your character is trans but like I no, no,

951
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: I don't want to where, no where in this movie.

952
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 1: I'm the closet. No, we're cut cutting that cutting that.

953
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: Um what I was kind of saying, No, that's funny,

954
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: let's leave it in. What I was gonna say. What

955
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: I was gonna say was that I don't want to foreclose.

956
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: I think you, as a transactories should be able to

957
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:20,399
Speaker 1: play assist gen or characters. However, let's say, let's say,

958
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: if your character was trans. The whole reason no one

959
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 1: suspected you is because, let's say it's like hyper contemporary film,

960
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: they don't want to get canceled, you know how, like

961
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: there's this thing, yeah exactly, because they're like, oh, exactly,

962
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,760
Speaker 1: there's a thing. Actually, there's a very big thing happening.

963
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: We're in Sometimes marginalized people are kind of just straight

964
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: up bad, but we don't say anything because we don't

965
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: want to be like you know, and I think that

966
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 1: means so my my villain character plays off of that. Yeah,

967
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 1: and your and and there's actually a lot of really

968
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 1: obvious evidence that I'm the killer, and like people keep

969
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: wanting to bring it up in the score swells, and

970
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,320
Speaker 1: I just kind of give them a look like oh really,

971
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: And then it's just like, well, I guess can't be herd.

972
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: Maybe there's a point at maybe there's a point where

973
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 1: the gay guy is like actually does accuse you know,

974
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 1: where the kid actually does the gay guy who's the

975
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 1: like the by beard who's in love with me, um

976
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,439
Speaker 1: actually does accuse you? And and you're like, um, it's

977
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 1: actually a really dangerous and stigmatizing trope for like trans

978
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: vengeance to be injected and these narratives blah blah blah,

979
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: and then at the end you're like, I am actually avenging. No,

980
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 1: I don't think I want to have any sort of

981
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: like high brow, like restorative justice type reason to be

982
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 1: killing people. I think I just want to be a

983
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:43,760
Speaker 1: murderer love. Actually, I think the gay guys in Scream

984
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: say that, like they don't really have a reason other

985
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: than that they just want to kill people. Yeah, exactly. Yeah,

986
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: Well let's make this movie Love is Love coming to

987
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 1: a theater near you. Love wins. Love wins because my

988
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,359
Speaker 1: killer does survive at the and there's no like, yeah,

989
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 1: without a doubt, the villain wins. See you next week, Virgins.

990
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 1: In the meantime, you can always call us to confess

991
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: the thing that you love in pop culture so much

992
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: that you have to pop everyone in your lives cherries

993
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 1: about it. Um, you can call us at three to

994
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Speaker 1: three pennants. That's three to three seven three six two

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997
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: favorite scary movie? Um? Are you a final girl or

998
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Speaker 1: do you die first? Um? Also, like you know, let

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