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Today we got cheese steaks from 7 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: Philly's Best today. 8 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: This is very exciting. 9 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 2: I came in about an hour ago and there was 10 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: a whole box of cheese steaks, and there was one 11 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 2: day specifically for me because I'm very particularly about. 12 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: The cheese steaks. 13 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 3: Huh, did you enjoy it? 14 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: I enjoyed it very much. Philly's Best is the best 15 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 2: cheese steaks in the area that I'm aware of. I 16 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 2: always say that in case you know there's someone else 17 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 2: who wants to take on that challenge, you'd have to 18 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 2: out do Philly's Best. 19 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 3: You were stuff in your face for a long time. 20 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: Actually, I think the term stuffing your face is a 21 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: little indelicate. 22 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 3: Well, you were really enjoying it, You're really into it. 23 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: Was not growling while I was eating. They could sound 24 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 2: like I was a woodchuck or something. 25 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: Sound. See, I didn't even notice you walking by. 26 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my boy. 27 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,199 Speaker 2: I was fully involved with the cheese steak. Anyway, Bob, 28 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: Bob Levy is how you say his name, Bob Levy, 29 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 2: uh is the is the owner of this place on 30 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 2: Melrose and uh. I think he also subfranchised the one 31 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 2: that we always go to, or I always. 32 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: Go to. 33 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 2: West Olive Avenue with Burbank. It's just about two three 34 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 2: miles down the road. So but this one, this cheese steak, 35 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: and the thing is with cheese steaks, I just want 36 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 2: the cheese and the steak. And I made that very clear. 37 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,919 Speaker 2: You did some cheese steak places. They load in onions 38 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 2: and peppers and god you do. 39 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 4: That mushrooms because I got a one. They were very 40 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 4: nice and made me a vegan one. 41 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, you don't eat mushrooms. 42 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 3: Without the steak and without the cheese. 43 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: All right, Well, it's not a cheese steak. I don't 44 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: know what they gave you, but a cheese steak with 45 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:04,279 Speaker 2: that they made. 46 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 4: Something vegan for me, John, because it was very nice 47 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 4: of them so that I wouldn't be left out. 48 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: You will admit it's not a cheese steak. 49 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 4: I will admit it's not a cheese steak, but it 50 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 4: was a nice sandwich. 51 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: Okay. 52 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 4: You know the vegan people that want to go with 53 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 4: their non vegan friends, there's an option for you. 54 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: This is what happens when you when you get vegan friends, 55 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 2: then there's always a discussion of well you want to 56 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: go to this restaurant, Well did they have vegan? 57 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: Did they serve vegan? 58 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 3: What about you? 59 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 4: You would be if somebody wanted to take you to 60 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 4: a restaurant, well. 61 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 3: Did they have meat? 62 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: From me? Actually we would. 63 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 2: We got taken out once to a vegan restaurant, and yeah, 64 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 2: it was tough. I was looking at, you know, probably 65 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: twenty two different entrees on the menu, and I was 66 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 2: over for twenty two. 67 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 1: There really was Did you what did you end up getting? 68 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 2: I don't remember. I probably whatever. I don't remember eating 69 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 2: anything there. 70 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 3: Oh so you just sat there without eating. 71 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: I probably ordered something and then moved it around the plate. 72 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,839 Speaker 2: Just reverted to being eight years old when my mother 73 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 2: would serve me something objectionable, you know, and you make it, 74 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 2: you make it. I do this like when I go 75 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 2: over somebody's house and they're serving me something that's I 76 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: have solved that problem when we have to go over, 77 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 2: especially on the West Side, where they they'll have gatherings 78 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 2: and they won't serve actual food, but they'll serve vegetation 79 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: or flowers or I don't know what it was. We're 80 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: I know, and so I sneak out while my wife's 81 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 2: in the shower. I go to in and out and 82 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 2: I load up it in and out, I eat it. 83 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 3: You really do that? 84 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: Oh no, I really really do that. 85 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: I load up on in and out, eat it in 86 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: the car on the way home, and then by the 87 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 2: time she's done with the shower, I can do this 88 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 2: and you know, about half an hour and I come 89 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: in and then I don't have to worry because you 90 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 2: go to these things and they serve we're. 91 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 4: Derds, right, what's wrong with orr that? I have plenty 92 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 4: of meat based. 93 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 2: Not on the West side they don't. I don't know 94 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: what's in them. That's part of the problem. You can 95 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 2: I do ask and they tell. 96 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 3: Me, and they don't understand what it is. 97 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: I'll say, I never heard of that. There's no salami 98 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: or pepperoni on like aoie board or anything. 99 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 2: You go west of the four or five, you know, 100 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 2: to a party with our dirves, you're in trouble. 101 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just, uh, well. 102 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 4: How do you think I feel when I go to 103 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 4: places and all they have are you. 104 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 3: Know, many mini weenies or meatbles nothing for me to eat? 105 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but that's that's normal food. No, many 106 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 2: weenies are are traditional or dirvs. 107 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 3: Okay, you know what. There are vegans in this world? 108 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 2: You know, I read today and I have a whole 109 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 2: article on this. The number of vegans were wildly overestimated. 110 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 2: They found out that there's a lot of people who 111 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: claim to be a vegan in Polan, but actual vegans 112 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 2: only about a quarter. 113 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 4: Why would somebody claim to be a vegan? It's not really, 114 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 4: it's not a thing. 115 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: Well it does it is? It is. 116 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 2: It is a trendy thing. It's like, it's like, how 117 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 2: come thirty eight percent of the kids at Brown claimed 118 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 2: to be transgender or something? You've seen that, Paul, No, 119 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 2: thirty eight percent of the kids at Brown claimed that 120 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 2: they're one of the one of the colors on the 121 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 2: LGBT brainbow. Okay, I can't go through all the variations. 122 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 2: Thirty eight percent, honest to God, and in real life, though, 123 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 2: they found a few years later that most of them are. 124 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 3: Not maybe they were confused. 125 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: Maybe they wanted a social standing. See, yeah, there was 126 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 2: social status by saying you were of a INDI termined. 127 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 4: I don't think you're I don't think it's a social 128 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 4: status to say. 129 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 3: That you're a vegan. 130 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: I think there was something cool about it. A vegan 131 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: being a vegan. 132 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't do it for trendy reasons. I've been 133 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 3: a vegan for about thirty years. 134 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 2: So it turns out, years ago there's a poll eight 135 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 2: percent of America claimed they were vegan. In truth, it 136 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 2: was one point eight percent. And you know how they 137 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 2: figured this out. They asked, well, this is a different, 138 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 2: different study. They asked people, Okay, are you vegan? Yeah, 139 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 2: I'm vegan eight percent? Okay, now submit your daily intake? 140 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: What kind of food you ate? Well, when when they 141 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 2: looked at the food diaries, it turned out people relying 142 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 2: like crazy, They. 143 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 5: Just wanted they were confused. I would like to think 144 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 5: that is confused. Yeah, what is that gender dysphoria? So 145 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 5: this is vegan dysporia. Yeah, you're not sure what you are? Anyway? 146 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: Uh wehy? How far off track? Did we? 147 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 6: All? 148 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: Right? Anyway? 149 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 2: Thank you to Bob Levy Philly's Best on Melrose and 150 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 2: also on West Alive Avenue in Burbank. 151 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 4: Thank you for including me and going out of your 152 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 4: way to make me something vegan. 153 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. 154 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,559 Speaker 1: Take some fake vegetable sandwich to keep you happy. 155 00:06:58,360 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 3: Vegetables all right? 156 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: When we come back, I. 157 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 3: Know it was real, bitch, Yes exactly. 158 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: What wasn't fake meat? Which I appreciate it. Yea, there was. 159 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 2: The Los Angeles Times had a story. It was the 160 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 2: top story several times. It keeps going to the top 161 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 2: and then slipping down and then going back to the 162 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 2: top over the last few days, all the whole weekend, 163 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 2: and it was about this Laguna Neguel couple who Nelson 164 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 2: and Gladys Gonzalez, who suddenly got deported. Now they've been 165 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 2: living in the country for thirty five years, never committed 166 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 2: a crime, they have three adult daughters, and suddenly they 167 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 2: were sent back to Columbia. The thing is, you have 168 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,239 Speaker 2: to if you print this out, it's how many pages, 169 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: three pages, you have to get all the way to 170 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: the third page before you find out why they were deported. Right, 171 00:07:54,880 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 2: They're presented as this being in a pure, pristine legal state, 172 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 2: and this somehow came out of the blue, and it's 173 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 2: wrong and it's cruel and it's mean, and look what 174 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 2: the government is doing. 175 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: And then you keep. 176 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 2: Reading and reading and reading, and then you get near 177 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 2: the end of the story. It's like, oh, that's why, 178 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 2: I'm going to count the paragraphs while you do the 179 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 2: news and hopefully they'll be done by time we come back. Wow, 180 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 2: and you'll see how many paragraphs they spent not telling 181 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 2: you why and how. When you get to why, if 182 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 2: you put yourself in their place, you'd say, well, what 183 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 2: did you expect? 184 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: Of course this was going to happen someday. 185 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 7: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 186 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 7: six forty. 187 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 2: Coming up after one thirty. Alex Stone from ABC News, 188 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 2: This was quite shocking if you registered with twenty three 189 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 2: and meters with your genetic data. The California Attorney General 190 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 2: is saying that you ought to delete all your data 191 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 2: because the company has filed for bankruptcy and who knows 192 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 2: where your genetic data information is going to end up. 193 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 2: It's a fascinating case. I went with another company. I'm 194 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 2: not going to say because somebody might steal it, but 195 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 2: twenty three and meteris going bankrupt officially, so we'll have 196 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 2: Alexander to talk about it. 197 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: Now. 198 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 2: It's Orange County couple, and I've been reading this story 199 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 2: for a few days. Ken and I for years had 200 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 2: what we call the three day rule. At some point 201 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 2: in life, I don't know ten fifteen years ago, we 202 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 2: realized that much of the news coverage, or at least 203 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 2: the first burst of news coverage on a story, was 204 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 2: often wrong or often very biased and slanted. You couldn't 205 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 2: trust it right. You had to wait until there were 206 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 2: other news sources describing the same news story, or you 207 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 2: had to wait until you know in the case, and 208 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 2: this is very true with school shootings, for example, the 209 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 2: first information from school shoot. You know, some people, sometimes 210 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 2: a big news story happens, and you know it's on 211 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 2: early in the day, middle of the day, and somebody 212 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 2: will say to me, oh, don't you wish you were 213 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 2: on the air when that happened? And I say no, 214 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 2: because usually the information that comes out is wrong, and 215 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 2: so you don't really know what happened, so you don't 216 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 2: really know what to talk about, right. And that's also 217 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 2: true when a story comes out, and especially if it's 218 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 2: a politically oriented story, double especially if it's a Trump story, 219 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 2: it often turns out to be wrong or exaggerated or distorted. 220 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: So I was waited to see. 221 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 2: About this Orange County couple, Nelson and Gladys Gonzales. The 222 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 2: report was they lived in Laguna Miguel for thirty five years, 223 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 2: and they showed up for a routine check in on 224 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:45,599 Speaker 2: February twenty first with ice, and I'm thinking. 225 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: Well, they lived illegally. What's this routine check in? Right? 226 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I always say if I'm in a foreign country, 227 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 2: because I know I traveled a lot, You've traveled a lot, right. 228 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 2: I think my wife and I have gone about thirty 229 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 2: five different countries. In some countries, I'm nervousing. I got 230 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 2: stopped crossing between the Israel and Palestine border once we 231 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: went into Bethlehem. 232 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: This didn't happen to you because war broke out, exactly. 233 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: I didn't get to go, but it would have. 234 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 2: So so we went to see the church in Bethlehem, 235 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 2: where the story is Jesus was born. We come back. 236 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 2: They let my three sons go through, my wife go through. 237 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 2: When it came time to me, they're shaking their heads. 238 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 3: What were you doing? 239 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: It's not like I was standing there naked with a rifle. 240 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 3: Did they I don't know. 241 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 2: They took the passport and a committee for him. There's 242 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 2: like three or four of them. They put the passport 243 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 2: on a counter in the back of the room. I 244 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 2: can still see them, and they're all looking at it, 245 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 2: and they're pointing at it, and a couple of them 246 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 2: are shaking their heads. It's like, great, I'm up for 247 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 2: a vote whether I'm going to leave Palestine. 248 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 3: Well, did you do I mean, seriously, did you do 249 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 3: something offensive? 250 00:11:56,240 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: No? No, I behaved myself. Okay, I do. 251 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 3: They just they took your whole family and said these 252 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 3: people are good. 253 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: Except for him, except for him. 254 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 2: Right now. My wife sees this stuff. First thing, she goes, well, 255 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 2: let's get on the bus and get out of here. 256 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 2: I'm not staying around to see what happens. And they 257 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 2: just had an extended meeting. And finally, one of them, 258 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 2: shaking his head disgruntled, pushes the passport at me and 259 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 2: waves like, go go already one of those attitudes. Yeah, 260 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:30,239 Speaker 2: oh yeah, that's why I've got no compassion for the Palestinians. 261 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: All right. 262 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 2: They did not treat me well when I tried to 263 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 2: cross the border. Nice and my wife got stopped in Russia. 264 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 2: We were on a cruise, actually a cruise with listeners, 265 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 2: and back then this was pre trouble with Russia. 266 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 3: I don't know if. 267 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 4: I'd be more afraid to be stopped in Bethlehem or Russia. 268 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 2: I was a little spook being in Russia. Yeah, which 269 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 2: is a whole nother story. But she went out to 270 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 2: go shopping and she comes back. She's carrying bags of 271 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 2: goodies and she can't. I went down off the ship 272 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 2: to meet her, and she's stuck at the window and 273 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 2: it's the same thing. Took her passport to look at 274 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 2: it and shaking their head, and they didn't they didn't 275 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 2: want to let her on. And she's starting to I 276 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 2: see she's waving her because I'm looking at it through 277 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 2: like a glass window, and she's waving her arms and gesturing. 278 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: And if Russians are stonefaced, they don't betray anything. Eventually 279 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 2: she got in. So the idea that I would live 280 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 2: for thirty five years in a country just having those 281 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 2: isolated instances, being in the country for a few hours, 282 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 2: I couldn't imagine getting up every day. You're in the 283 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 2: country illegally and you never got your paperwork together. Well, 284 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 2: if you read this La Times story, it's about the 285 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 2: three daughters of Nelson and Gladys Gonzales. They started a 286 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 2: GoFundMe page because they were deported. They were sent back 287 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 2: to Columbia, and they wrote on the GoFundMe page They've 288 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 2: never broken the law, never missed an appointment, and this 289 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 2: sudden occurrence has left us in shock. This cruel and 290 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 2: unjust situation has shattered our family emotionally and financially. And 291 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 2: Ruben Vivez is writing this nonsense for the La Times, 292 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 2: and he wrote, advocates say the couple's case is part 293 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 2: of a troubling trend immigrants living in the country without 294 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 2: legal authorization. 295 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: Wow, that's a mouthful. 296 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 2: They're illegal aliens, but it's actually immigrants living in the 297 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 2: country without legal authorization. That's eight words instead of two words. 298 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 2: It's eight words, who have no criminal history, being detained 299 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 2: during routine check ins and in some cases deported. Ruben 300 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 2: vives says, living in the country illegally is a civil violation, 301 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 2: not a criminal offense, unless someone has been deported and 302 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 2: returns to the country without permission, and then it goes 303 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 2: through a long back and forth of statistics, and this 304 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 2: expert says this, and this expert says that you know 305 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 2: how the times. So anyway, I'm thinking the whole time. 306 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 2: And this is like a subset of the three day rule. 307 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 2: You've got to read the whole story. I don't know 308 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 2: how many times if you look at the La Times 309 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 2: or the New York Times or any paper, how often 310 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 2: do you get real deep into the story. People generally 311 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 2: read headlines, maybe a couple of paragraphs. I had to 312 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 2: go through paragraph twenty four, paragraph twenty four before you. 313 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: Hit the gold. 314 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 2: According to a statement from ICE, Vivez finally writes, and 315 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 2: this may be the first time. In fact, when I 316 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 2: read this, it might have been the first time anybody 317 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 2: read this paragraph. According to a statement from ICE, the 318 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 2: married couple entered the country illegally in November nineteen eighty 319 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 2: nine near sanuel Sidro nineteen eighty nine. George Bush Senior 320 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 2: was president then right The agency did not say under 321 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 2: what program the couple was allowed to stay. The couple's 322 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 2: trek to the US happened at a time when Colombia 323 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 2: was racked with armed conflict, political and drug violence that 324 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 2: resulted in the deaths of many Colombians, including a popular 325 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 2: presidential candidate who was assassinated. Of course, nothing here indicates 326 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 2: that Nelson and Gladys Gonzales were targeted any way, because 327 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 2: most people were not shot and assassinated. Immigration officials say 328 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 2: Nelson Gonzalez applied for asylum in nineteen ninety two. This 329 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 2: is three years later. If you remember, in the past year, 330 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 2: all the people at the border who wanted asylum applied 331 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 2: for asylum right at the border. Some of them applied 332 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 2: while they were still in Mexico. So he gets here 333 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 2: and then waits three years. Then his case is closed 334 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 2: in June of nineteen ninety eight when he fails to 335 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 2: attend an interview. So being here legally wasn't that important 336 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 2: to him. He didn't show up for the asylum interview 337 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 2: nine years after he arrived. In the summer of nineteen 338 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 2: ninety eight, an immigration judge also found that Gladys Gonzales 339 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 2: his wife, had no legal basis to stay, so he 340 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 2: skips out on his asylum interview nine years later. She's 341 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 2: got no legal basis to say, so, it says a judge. 342 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 2: They dragged out the case for a couple more years. Finally, 343 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:24,479 Speaker 2: an immigration judge in March of two thousand said get out, 344 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 2: and they agreed to leave the country, but instead they 345 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 2: tried to get another appeal for each of their cases. 346 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 2: Whatever this appeals process was, it finally ended in twenty 347 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 2: twenty one, and on February twenty first of this year, 348 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 2: they were detained while a final order of removal was 349 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 2: being processed. They were told to get out for sure 350 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 2: twenty five years ago. Their appeals process ended four years 351 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 2: ago after dragging on for twenty one years, and sometime 352 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 2: in March they were put on a plane back to 353 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 2: their native country. That is paragraphs twenty four to twenty 354 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 2: nine of the story. Now you've been in the news 355 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 2: business for a while, should those paragraphs have been moved 356 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 2: up to maybe paragraph three to eight. 357 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 1: I mean, Ruben Vivez. 358 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 3: And what your belief is absolutely right exactly. 359 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 2: It's it's not taking a political side on this. It's 360 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 2: like I wanted to know the story, and only because 361 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 2: I do this for a living and know what the 362 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 2: La Times is up to, I toughed it out and 363 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 2: read all the way to paragraph twenty four before the 364 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 2: truth was told. So anybody who didn't make it to 365 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 2: paragraph twenty four saw this emotional, emotionally manipulative story to 366 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 2: make it sound like the Trump administration is being cruel 367 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 2: and mean. 368 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: To these people. 369 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 2: Well, people could decide that on their own, but you've 370 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 2: got to give them the facts up front. I don't 371 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 2: think it's particularly cruel and mean when you sit here 372 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 2: for thirty five years, when you're told to get out 373 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 2: twenty five years ago, when you don't show up for 374 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 2: your interview, when the wife never had any legal basis 375 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 2: to stay. They give me a break. Rubin Vivez and 376 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 2: the La Times editors, once again, it's deception. It's a slanted, 377 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 2: biased presentation that leaves you with the wrong impression. 378 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 7: You're listening to John Cobel's on demand from KFI Am sixty. 379 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 2: We'ron every day one until four o'clock. After four o'clock 380 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 2: John Cobelt's show on demand on the iHeart app, and 381 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 2: you can hear what you missed. A few years ago, 382 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 2: all the rage were these genetic testing companies where you 383 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 2: spit a tube, mail your spit in a short time. 384 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 2: Later you get a detailed genetic analysis of where you 385 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 2: came from, and increasingly it tells you about the likelihood 386 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 2: that you have certain characteristics or you don't have certain characteristics. 387 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 2: Twenty three and Me was really popular. It was a 388 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 2: startup some years ago and then it went public and 389 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 2: it has a tremendous amount of data human genetic information 390 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 2: from around the world, and it's gone bankrupt. One of 391 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 2: the problems is that for most people, you only do 392 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 2: one spit in the tube and that's it. You only 393 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 2: pay them onths and I guess they're running out of 394 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 2: customers who care about this. We're going to get Alex 395 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 2: Stone on from ABC News because the California Attorney General 396 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 2: has issued a warning, a direction to people saying if 397 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 2: you have genetic information with twenty three and me, you 398 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 2: got to do something. Alex hey hey, John. Yeah, they 399 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 2: filed for bankruptcy today. The CEO resigned and not a 400 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 2: complete surprise. There were signs that there were problems a 401 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 2: couple months ago. In November, forty percent of twenty three 402 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 2: and meters staff was laid off. But as you mentioned, 403 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 2: the problem being, you know, companies in general have tried 404 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 2: to go to a membership set up, so whether it 405 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 2: be your streaming service or Microsoft Office. Now typically you 406 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 2: don't just buy the software like he used to. They 407 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 2: want the monthly subscription for access to it because it 408 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 2: keeps that revenue coming in. But the problem with twenty 409 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 2: three and me and others like it that once you 410 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,479 Speaker 2: found out that you were hey, look I did it. 411 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 2: Once I found out that I was mostly German and 412 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 2: from the from the UK, I went, oh, okay, well 413 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 2: that was interesting, and I'm not paying monthly to find 414 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 2: out anymore to know that I'm if I'm predisposed to 415 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 2: a bold spot, or if cilantro tastes like soap, and 416 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 2: you know all the other things that they tell you 417 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 2: based on your DNA. Well you know what it told me, Yeah, 418 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 2: that vegetables taste harsh to me, which I look at 419 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 2: some of them and go, no, that's not true. 420 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: Yes, so they miss on a few of them. 421 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, And so they tried to come up with other 422 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 2: health related things to get people to pay monthly or 423 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 2: yearly for it, and people didn't want to do it, 424 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 2: so they have gone bankrupt. California's Attorney General Rob Bonta 425 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 2: now warning that the company could be on the verge 426 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 2: of collapse and that if you were a customer of 427 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 2: twenty three and meters, then you may want to take 428 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 2: action under California law, that they are headquartered in California, 429 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 2: that they're under our law here and secure your DNA 430 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 2: and get them to delete it. We talked to Anya Prints, 431 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 2: a professor at the University of Iowa College of Law, 432 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 2: and she told. 433 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 8: Us the privacy policy itself says that in the case 434 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 8: of sale or bankruptcy, the consumer data goes with the 435 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 8: new company. And furthermore, the privacy policy says that it 436 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 8: can be changed at any time. And so there's a 437 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 8: chance that consumers are comfortable without twenty three and ME 438 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 8: is currently using their data, but that they might not 439 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 8: be comfortable with how a new company would slightly alter 440 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 8: the privacy policy. 441 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 2: And so that's the thing. You may not know what 442 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 2: a new company is going to do with your data. 443 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 2: They may liquidate where different parts of it are going 444 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 2: to be sold off. They would be an attractive company 445 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 2: for all of the DNA data on so many people 446 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 2: globally that they've got, and all of those samples that 447 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 2: they've already got, what are they going to do with those? 448 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 2: So the AG is telling twenty three in meter customers 449 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 2: that you should think about under what you are afforded 450 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 2: under the law to go into the settings of twenty 451 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 2: three and meters, download a PDF copy of your twenty 452 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 2: three and meters report so that you've got it, you 453 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 2: paid for it. You might as well keep that forever 454 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 2: if you want to go back and look at it, 455 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 2: and then in the settings go until twenty three and 456 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 2: ME to stop sharing your data, delete your data, delete 457 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 2: the sample that they may be holding on to for 458 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 2: future use, and delete your account if you just want 459 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 2: to get rid of it. We talked to another expert, 460 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 2: Dina Goldberg. She works in genetics, and says, you know, 461 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 2: all of these sites, including twenty three and ME, they've 462 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 2: got these con forms you may or may not know 463 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 2: that you agreed to at the beginning, allowing them or 464 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 2: telling them no that you don't want them to share 465 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 2: your data with third party companies. But it's presented as 466 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 2: for research and for health data, and it will help 467 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 2: you refine everything. So a lot of people said, sure, 468 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 2: you know, if it's going to be very limited use 469 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 2: for health and learning my health of the future, sure 470 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 2: go ahead and do it. She says, you got to 471 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 2: know what you're. 472 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 6: Okay anytime you are giving your data, your biological specimen 473 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 6: to any commercial company or really any company at all, 474 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 6: it is something to consider what they're doing with that information. 475 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 6: And typically when we're talking about genetic information, it usually 476 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 6: is stored very securely and usually there's consent forms to 477 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 6: sign and to fill out that will explain what they're 478 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 6: doing with your data. 479 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 2: And there are on twenty three and me, but you 480 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 2: want to go into the settings and unclick the consent 481 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 2: to share. So twenty three meters says in a statement 482 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 2: that it does not share customer data with a third 483 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 2: party without your consent, the many people have given that 484 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 2: consent and that it will comply with all genetic privacy 485 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 2: laws moving with whatever goes on here, and then it 486 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 2: will keep DNA data confidential. But it looked like John 487 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 2: before the bankruptcy, they were trying to go private. But 488 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 2: the future of the company is unknown today. Shares have 489 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 2: been in a free fall recently and today especially. And 490 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 2: I mean this was a big deal Oprah's Favorite Things 491 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 2: a number of years ago, and everybody was doing it 492 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 2: and on Amazon Prime days you'd get big discounts. 493 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: You do it, you do it once. 494 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I never thought that a company like this 495 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 2: could go bankrupt, But I guess you hit a limit 496 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 2: of how many people in the world want to spend 497 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 2: the money and go through the trouble. Yeah, and they 498 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,239 Speaker 2: tried to do all kinds of medical research things and 499 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 2: to get in the world, you know, the bio world 500 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 2: of well it could be used for this and that, 501 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,199 Speaker 2: and seems like they've kind of hit a wall. But 502 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 2: they do have a huge amount of your data and 503 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 2: my data. And I did it, my parents did it, 504 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 2: so you know, everybody those who took part, and there 505 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 2: are many who did that, their data is in there. 506 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: And now what's what's going to go on with it? 507 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: Where's it going to go? You know what? 508 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 2: The latest update I got, yeah from I didn't do 509 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 2: twenty three and me, but the service I went with, 510 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 2: I got an update. I'm very likely to smell asparagus odor. Yeah, 511 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 2: that's that one's on twenty three and me as well. 512 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 2: I think it says that I do smell it, and 513 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 2: guess I do smell it. Yeah, and you mentioned cilantro. 514 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 2: I have a moderate chance of disliking cilantro. 515 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 4: Don't we all smell asparagus if we eat it and 516 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:36,479 Speaker 4: we pee. 517 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 2: No, Apparently people don't have the the end time to 518 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 2: smell it. Yeah, there is a part of the population 519 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 2: that doesn't smell it. Here you go, bitter sensitivity. Bitter sensitivity. 520 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 2: M wait at the extreme end, my little green dot 521 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 2: on the graph all the way at the far right, 522 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 2: which is what why I can't eat vegetables because they 523 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 2: all taste bitter. And I'm smelling asparagus everywhere too. Mindset, 524 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 2: I think I'm eighty eight percent more Neanderthal than most 525 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 2: of the population. That soun's about right. I don't even 526 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 2: know what that means, but that sounds about right. I'm 527 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 2: probably at one hundred and ten there. I was considered 528 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 2: you civill wise, all right, very good, Alex, thanks for 529 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 2: coming on. You got it later ninety three percent from 530 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 2: Eastern Europe, Poland, and then four percent the Baltics, which 531 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 2: is Lithuanian, and I say two percent Jewish. Really yeah, 532 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 2: so I fit in with the rest of the crew here. 533 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to the tribe. Thank you very much. 534 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 3: You know I never did that. 535 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: You never did the. 536 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 3: And I was. I keep thinking about doing it. I 537 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 3: also wanted to do it for my dogs, and then 538 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 3: I just your dogs as well. 539 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 2: My son did it for our dog. Yeah, and they 540 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 2: actually sent him pictures of other dogs. He's related to 541 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 2: that's so cool, and all the dogs looked insane, Well, 542 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 2: your dog is insane, Like if dogs could. 543 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: Look like serial killers, all of them did. 544 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 3: Well you from what you've told me about. 545 00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know it's a little he's deranged. All right, 546 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 2: are coming up? 547 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 7: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM sixty. 548 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 2: Coming up after two o'clock. We're gonna have a Jamie 549 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 2: Page on from the West Side Current. They claim there's 550 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 2: there's very early data from the Greater Los Angeles homeless count. 551 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 2: They're claiming that's a drop of thirty six hundred. God, 552 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 2: here's another phrase, unsheltered individuals. These were, in other words, 553 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 2: the street homeless. All right, the crazy people that terrify you. 554 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 2: There's thirty six hundred fewer across the region. That's across 555 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 2: the region. Well, there's seventy thousand across the region. So 556 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 2: this is a five percent drop, which means we've spent 557 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 2: billions of dollars to cut into five percent of the 558 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 2: homeless total. Well that's that's not good. Uh, that's that's bad. 559 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 2: Billions of dollars. This would take us at this rate 560 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 2: twenty years, assuming no other homeless people move into the city, 561 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 2: which they are every day. It would take twenty years 562 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 2: to get rid of everybody. And let me guess they're 563 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 2: going to be doing victory lapse on this. Well, we're 564 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 2: going to talk with Jamie Page coming up after two 565 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 2: o'clock from the west side current. This is funny. Have 566 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 2: you ever gone to chichen Itza. It's the pyramids in 567 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 2: Mexico that the Mayan's built. I've gone there, and they're big, 568 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 2: beautiful pyramids. I mean, the construction is different, but it's 569 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 2: the same idea as the ones in Egypt. You may 570 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 2: want to go here because you're never going to see 571 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 2: the ones in Egypt. 572 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: Anyway. 573 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 2: You're not supposed to climb up the stairs. And one 574 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 2: guy started scaling up the side of the pyramid. 575 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 3: Why aren't you supposed to go upstairs? 576 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: Well, it's a sacred spot. 577 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 3: Why are there stairs? 578 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: Well it was built thousands of years ago. 579 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 3: Okay, stairs, I'm thinking with the railing. 580 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no, these are. 581 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 3: It's it's it's okay, it's not it's not modern. 582 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 2: Very steep, it very very steep, and it's very dangerous 583 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 2: and it's a violation of the sanctity of the of 584 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 2: the temple. Now, nine thousand tourists came to the temple 585 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 2: just on Thursday. It's a huge attraction. And Thursday was 586 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 2: the spring equinox, so there's probably some very meaningful in 587 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 2: that part of the world. 588 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: And the Mins built this well. 589 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 2: One guy, thirty eight year old German tourist, he he 590 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 2: climbs up, the security guards chase him and then he 591 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 2: tries to hide inside a pyramid chamber. But he was 592 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 2: found and escorted out. But the locals were so angry 593 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 2: they shouted that he should be sacrificed because thousands of you, 594 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 2: thousands of years ago, the minds used to engage in 595 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 2: human sacrifices. They would carry them out on top of 596 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:14,719 Speaker 2: the pyramid. That's just the beginning right then, and then 597 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 2: you get you get, you get sacrificed. That sounds like 598 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 2: it would hurt. So if you go to chichen Itza 599 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,479 Speaker 2: to the pyramid, don't because the crowd will turn down 600 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 2: you real fast. They have no problem. I guess was 601 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 2: setting you on fire. Yeah, when we come back, we 602 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 2: had a lot of good stuff next hour because thirty 603 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 2: six hundred fewer homeless in the streets after billions and 604 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 2: billions of dollars. If you believe the numbers, it's only 605 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 2: a five percent hit on the total. We're gonna have 606 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 2: Daniel Guss on And apparently there's a few speakers who 607 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 2: show up at city council meetings in LA and they 608 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 2: start shout outing the N word and the C word, 609 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 2: and nobody can seem to stop them, and the city 610 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 2: council president is trying to But that's a violation of 611 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 2: First Amendment rights. 612 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: It's public, it's a public meeting. 613 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 2: And also Daniel Gus I exchanged some emails. I was 614 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 2: even working on Sunday. Wow, I was sending emails to 615 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 2: Daniel Guss and he was sending him back about inside 616 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 2: story on this absurd parking Enforcement agency situation where Karen 617 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 2: Bass found a way to lose sixty five million dollars 618 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 2: in the past year, sixty five million handing out parking tickets, 619 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 2: not making it up, sixty five million dollar loss just 620 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 2: on parking tickets. We'll explain how that could be. Got 621 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 2: some more insider information. Deborah Mark is live in the 622 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 2: CAFI twenty four our newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to 623 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 2: the John Cobalt Show podcast. 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