WEBVTT - Phil Rosenthal Meets World 0:00:18.520 --> 0:00:22.040 I had an encounter like a month ago. 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:25.920 With one of those like, oh this this job exists. 0:00:26.160 --> 0:00:27.400 This is an interesting job. 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:30.240 You mean with someone who has one of. 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:34.240 The job you'd never think exists, and then you're glad 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:34.560 it does. 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:39.960 So we uh we had, you know, like about a 0:00:39.960 --> 0:00:44.920 week and a half of Indie saying my head really itches. 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:49.080 Uh oh, I'm the down player. 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:51.400 I'm like the you know, if somebody says they're sick, 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:54.720 I'm like, if I'm sick, I'm like, oh, we. 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:56.880 Know you were sick for three weeks, four weeks, and 0:00:56.920 --> 0:00:58.880 we just get begging you to go get checked out. No, 0:00:59.040 --> 0:00:59.800 I'm never going to do it. 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:04.560 And Alex is the exact opposite. She's like, oh my god, 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:08.200 we're going to the doctor. You know, cancer, it's over right. 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:10.640 So she was like, it's life, it's slice. It's like, 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:14.800 I'm like, Okay, the kid doesn't take enough showers. Let's 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:18.959 just take some showers and then fine, Like it's pretty obvious. 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:20.120 It's it's not going away. 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:23.040 He's itchy. I mean, we can't see anything, but who can, 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:23.920 Like I don't know. 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:27.640 So we get the LCE shampoo and Alex is like, 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:30.680 I'm starting to itch to him like, okay, everybody does 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:36.240 the light shampoo situation. Uh, And sure enough she like 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:39.120 picks some things out of his hair with like the 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:39.960 little comb. 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:41.520 Right, it's so gross to think about. 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:44.480 So they're like so small, like in some ways, like 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:47.119 I could tell Alex gets a little satisfaction because now 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:48.720 she's like, how many am I going to get out 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:49.080 of his hair? 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:51.840 So because it's kind of like, yeah, cleaning them. 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:54.600 Like popping lips, there's so satisfying. 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:57.720 Gross gross gross. 0:01:58.840 --> 0:02:03.360 So then everything seems fun for another week and I 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:06.960 was there at your house, Alex is at you, indies 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:08.840 at you, and then sure enough, like one of his 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:12.680 theater classes, it's like we have had an outbreak of lice. 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:18.080 We're like, okay, it's not gone away. So there was 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:22.840 a life lady, Yeah, a very nice lice lady. 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:27.359 Yeah, came to our house a house yeah, like a 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:32.200 delivery de license service. It's like getting a pizza ordered 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:33.680 or yoga class at your house. 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:34.760 You can do this in LA. 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:36.040 It's so nice. 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:36.920 Raine. 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:37.560 Yeah. 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:40.680 So she came and was like the coolest woman and 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:43.359 like in two hours had like done all of our 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:46.000 hair and everybody was fine, and she answered all our 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:48.320 questions and by the way, I had no lice in 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:51.880 my hair. I was I was okay, but. 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:53.040 Yeah, I mean you're. 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:55.440 Your son. 0:02:57.480 --> 0:02:58.720 Exactly. I don't cuddle. 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:02.320 I was in my shed alone. 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:06.320 It actually probably does mean that I was out of 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:07.120 town while. 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:09.480 Yeah, I got it, so whatever point that they re 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:13.320 got it or got it the first time. Yeah, anyway, Yeah, 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:16.480 so shout out to all the lice ladies and out there. 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:17.320 My god. 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:20.120 Literally her card was like a light lady. I was like, 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:20.840 this is so cool. 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:22.120 That's I was going to ask if they have they 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:24.680 always have like a cool name, like you know, lice 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:28.520 and easy or something like that. You know, you know something, 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:29.400 always have something. 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:31.040 They need you, well, they need you to come up 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:31.359 with these. 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:34.440 So I have a question. I know that like when 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:37.040 you have fleas in your house and you need to 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:38.960 now get rid of like you know, there's like the 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:41.640 little flea bombs that you can put off in your house. 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:43.800 Did they have to do something similar for lice or 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:45.840 once it's because no, because it doesn't. Lice doesn't stay 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:46.320 on bedding. 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:48.800 It's just oh thank god. Yeah, it's not like bed bugs. 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:52.320 It's not like scabies or like there's other stuff babies, 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:55.640 you have to like wash everything. Yeah, no, luckily this 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:57.960 is but you know, isn't it funny? Like I immediately 0:03:57.960 --> 0:03:59.560 was like, do we have to shave? You have to 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:00.440 shave into his head? 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:02.680 Like I was still in this like nineteen fifties. 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:06.920 Yes, is that what you think? 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:07.200 Like? 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:07.880 Will? 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:09.400 What do you think because you don't have kids? Like 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:11.160 when was the last time you heard about lice when 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:11.720 you were a kid? 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:14.320 And when I got it on when I was a kid? No, 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:14.760 I got that. 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:16.840 We had the light shampoo that they would put on 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:18.919 that just felt like battery acid on your head. So 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:24.480 you just kind of like screaming, Yeah, like connecticuts. 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:26.880 It was the blood of a horse mix. Right, was 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:27.480 it worked? 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:28.839 It worked? 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:29.200 No? 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:29.760 That Yeah? 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:31.719 Okay, so there's a lice lady. 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:35.280 Yeah, how does Now here's my question for the backstory. 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:38.720 How does one find this profession? 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:40.880 Is this something that her family had done for years 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:43.320 and she took over the family business. Is this something 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:45.160 where she went to school for it and then was like, 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:47.400 I want to find I'm gonna I'm lice. 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:48.480 That's my that's my. 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:51.240 Goal to that's you have kids of your own and 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:53.000 you realize that. 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:54.760 You want your surface when. 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:56.479 When you go. There's no one who knows this, and 0:04:56.520 --> 0:04:58.320 you know what, I could you know what, people would 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:01.280 pay a lot of money for an expert to come 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:01.680 in and. 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:03.800 Say, voice out there. 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:08.799 Actors, you know, child actors with some podcast money. 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:10.359 We want to I don't want to. 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:15.719 To the sphere of having turns out he doesn't have any. 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:19.680 But we had a we had a life outbreak at 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:22.720 Adler's school as well. Adler did not get it it. 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:25.640 It appeared as though nobody in Adler's class got it, 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:30.360 but in surrounding classrooms, so other grades had outbreaks. And 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:33.000 because Adler's in kindergarten and they don't spend a ton 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:36.480 of time with the older grades, he was mostly protected. 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:43.040 But there was a big brew haha in the kindergarten 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:46.840 parent chat. There's a there was a house to do, 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:49.240 a bid to do. Yeah, do you want to know 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:49.719 about the to do? 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:50.000 Will? 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:52.320 Because we know my favorite thing about Will is one 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:53.919 of my favorite I have so many favorite things, but 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:56.240 one of them is that Will who doesn't have kids 0:05:56.279 --> 0:06:00.560 but loves the dramas. I love he loves the drama. 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:02.320 There's always a chat drama. 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:08.120 That's why you just don't don't chat chats chets like don't. 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:11.520 Recently, somebody started a sentence in the parent chat that 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:16.360 said news flash, and I was like, oh. 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:19.440 We are down? Is that? 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:22.520 Like Alex has been a part of several different like 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:25.080 mom threads and you know, and I have friends who 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:28.040 obviously are part of and there's always somebody going through 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:30.760 a divorce who's over sharing like that just seems to 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:33.800 be like there's always the one person who's like. 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:35.520 Well he did it again. 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:38.960 It's just like whoa this is about who's picking up 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:41.440 the kids. 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:45.279 It's just. 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:52.720 There is a company that makes a it's like mostly 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:57.359 essential oils, but it's a spray that's rosemary. Apparently lice 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:05.680 hate rosemary. We did they did a bowl and of 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:09.640 all these things, we just you know, we know like rosemary. 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:12.080 Thanks you all for coming today. We're going to show 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:13.160 you some different things. 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:19.080 We want to see which ones you. 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:21.200 Were exactly so cardial last voter and they said, we 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:24.400 just can't hang with the rosemary. There's a company that 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:27.480 makes the spray that's mostly essential oils and it's got 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:30.360 rosemary in it, and you can supposedly it's really good 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:32.640 if you spray it in your kid's hair, they won't 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:34.920 go to your kid's head, and so. 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:37.600 I doubt it works at all. Well, sounds like this 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:39.600 sounds like every parent's first attempt. 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:42.080 I don't want to use I don't know, I don't 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:44.120 want to have to buy it at the drug store. 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:46.880 I'm going to be healthy. I'm gonna I'm just gonna 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:49.160 split them with this, Rosemary. 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:54.960 My point is, even though no one in kindergarten that 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:59.640 we know of had it, someone said, hey, I'm going 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:01.400 to start using this and I'm going to give it 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:03.880 to the teachers, and what do you say? We spray 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:09.000 it on all of them. There were thumbs down, emoji's, 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:14.200 there were there were links, and so I just mostly 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:19.360 stay very quiet and wait for something. But anyway, so yeah, 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:22.200 we it's been going around the lice. It's making its rounds. 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:24.120 Well, you should call that famous company that takes care 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:25.040 of it, lice peel Off. 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:31.920 They're great, They're like the best, best in town, Liceeroni. 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:36.040 You're not going to beat that company. 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:40.040 Welcome to Pad Meets World. I'm Danielle Fischel. 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:42.200 Wilfred Dell. 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:57.480 There are certain sounds that can immediately bring Boy Meets 0:08:57.520 --> 0:09:01.199 World fans a wave of nostalgia. Whether it's a perfectly 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:04.800 pitched feenie call or a classic piece of dialogue, like 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:07.760 they want you to take the roles. A lot of 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:10.480 our fans can speak in code, allowing each other to 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:13.120 know they are a part of the club. It's a 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:17.160 cult of sorts, our own little the center. But it 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:19.800 would be difficult to find a noise that unites Boy 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:21.880 Meets World fans easier than this. 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:24.560 When this Folly World. 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:29.480 On our show, we went through a handful of theme songs, 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:32.240 but it was the final variation, the version used for 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:35.000 seasons five through seven, that seems to have stuck with 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:38.080 fans the most and become the song to represent Boy 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:41.000 Meets World most commonly. And when we started the season 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:44.120 five rewatch, we noticed the credit the theme was performed 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:47.360 by Phil Rosenthal and twenty cent Crush, And once we 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:50.640 figured out this Phil Rosenthal was not the guy who 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:54.120 created Everybody Loves Raymond and Eats in Different Countries for Netflix, 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:57.280 it got us thinking, can we find Phil Rosenthal and 0:09:57.360 --> 0:10:00.480 twenty cent Crush? And when you have Jensen as your 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:04.920 the answer is usually yes. And so for today's episode, 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:07.960 we will be focused on that one part of Boy 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:12.400 Meets World, the unforgettable final theme song, as we welcome 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:15.080 to the podcast the former lead singer of twenty cent 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:17.480 Crush and the voice you mimic at the top of 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:28.840 your lungs. Yes, it's Phil Rosenthal in the moment on 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:31.360 this road, then we go live. 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:33.640 Is what we do with. 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:38.760 You, guys? Crack me up? Man, Yeah a little I'm 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:41.200 a little older now a. 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:43.480 Man. 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:45.120 Yeah, thank you? 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:46.280 You look the same girl. 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:51.760 Oh my gosh. We are so excited to talk about you. 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:54.240 I mean, we have to be honest, We've had some 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:58.600 pretty unpredictable reunions here on pod Meets World, but it 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:01.680 is going to be difficult to beat this one. Why 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:04.800 because we didn't think we'd ever even find you. 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:08.080 Yeah, it's funny. You found me through my old band 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:11.680 in DC. Yes, okay, so I moved way before I 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:14.160 moved to LA. That's that's really funny. 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:16.680 Producer Jensen will Will call us to be like, yeah, 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:18.920 I found who you're looking for through his third grade teacher, 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:20.640 Like excuse me. 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:23.640 So you just never know how you're going to get 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:26.520 the call. I want to start with twenty cent Rush. 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:29.520 Please tell us about the band and how you guys 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:32.079 got started the band in DC. 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:36.840 Broke up, and I moved out here and wanted to 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:41.439 go further. I didn't want to quit. You know, they went, 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:43.760 they went back to doing jobs and stuff like that. 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:44.840 What was the band in DC? 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:48.480 It was called Not That's not even producer worked. I 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:51.679 think reached out to and Jeff Chamberlain, who's one of 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:54.719 the greatest lyricists I've ever known. He's great. I was 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:57.599 a bass player and backing singer in that band. And 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:01.120 then when we broke up, so they kept ted and 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:03.360 Jeff kept These are my best friends. We were like 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:06.040 the Rolling Stones in DC. We had we would bring 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:10.280 a thousand people to the like why can't I think 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:13.960 of the club? It's closed now, But we used to 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:17.560 do really well there, but not we never got big, 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:19.880 never got maker, and I think that scared them a 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:24.959 little bit because we're getting older, right. I took the 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:29.160 drummer John Greenberg, who was amazing at Paul Flynn, who 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:33.600 owns True to Music in Santa Monica. We came to California, 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:36.360 I mean, and we had a band, and then I 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:40.000 left that band. That band broke up. Twenty cent Crush 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:44.199 came about at nineteen ninety. 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:45.720 Five, and we when we moved to La. 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:47.599 Yeah. When I was in La, we were on the 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:52.200 KTLA morning show in front of millions of people usually. 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:55.040 So you guys, you guys have had like your lives 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:58.280 have been so incredible in what you've done. But it's 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:00.600 like the odd things that have happened to me, you know, 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:08.760 singing Boy Meets World at Capitol Studios and we're Sinatra, Brian, 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:12.760 the Beach Boys, the Beatles, King Cole sang. 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:16.160 And then the theme song for Boy. 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:18.160 Meets World Themes. 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:21.200 Yeah, okay, so how how did this come about? Talk 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:23.520 to us about how you got the call to do 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:24.679 the Boy Meets World Themes song. 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:27.120 I think she was an associate producer for the show. 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:30.120 My bases is ending well in Hollywood. We were playing 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:34.679 House of Loues, we played h the Key Club, you know, 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:37.800 all kinds of it was. It was actually called Billboard 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:42.840 Live at the time. All this came about through Karen McCain. 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:44.280 Is that familiar? 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:45.000 Of course? 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:46.600 Of course we know Karen very well. 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:49.040 Somehow, I don't know if she was just a fan 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:52.480 of the band or what happened, but she goes, Phil 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:55.560 would be perfect to write the song for this, and 0:13:56.600 --> 0:13:59.200 you know, you know what happened with Friends and the 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:02.840 Red Brands. Sure, and I missed like who could put 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:06.480 a world with a smile? I missed the I missed 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:10.880 the vocals of lead of songs in the shows. 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:14.000 And so what kind of guidance did they give you 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:15.400 about what they were looking for? 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:21.080 Michael Jacobs? Because when I wrote the very first the 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:23.640 lead in of that song, when This Boy Meets World, 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:27.160 was about me, not about Ben. You know another show, 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:32.440 you guys had a six year hit show on Friday nights, 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:37.040 and I had the opportunity to provide something that would 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:42.680 you know, lead it, and I was I was like, dude, 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:44.640 you got to you know, you got to do this. 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:48.280 I feel like there was some divine intervention. I wrote 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:51.640 a two minute and thirty five second song, sent a 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:54.760 cassette in when there were cassettes, which I saw and 0:14:55.760 --> 0:14:59.960 they said, okay, it was like, well walking through this 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:03.400 labyrinth of life. And even my my Steve Burns, my 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:06.720 manors manager and guitar player, my very good friend, said 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:11.840 they're not going to want that. It's too labyrinth is demographic. 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:14.400 It's yeah, they too big a word for TV. 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:19.320 Yeah, But Twentys and Crush had a really good Ascension 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:22.640 in La. You know, we're doing really well. Everything kind 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:25.640 of fell into place and I got that opportunity and 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:29.640 over a weekend I had to scale down a two 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:34.040 thirty five song. Now, let's talk about Ray. Ray had 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:37.760 the first two theme songs. I stole. I was stealing 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:39.920 money out of his pocket. And I didn't even know. 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:43.320 You know, It's like I wasn't a position. But when 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:45.160 I went to Ray's house and I walked into his 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:48.960 because he was a music director of the show, and 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:52.160 he walked I walked into his garage in Studio City 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:56.560 and there was an Aerosmith album on the wall. Yeah, 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:59.040 he had co produced it, and it was one of 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:02.280 my favorite albums when I was a kid. Yeah, would 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:03.800 you would you have to do with arisonth He goes, Oh, 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:05.480 I signed them to Columbia. I was in A and 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:09.720 R exactly the fun the fun stuff you learn when 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:13.600 you walk into a that has that much talent. Oh 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:17.800 cool people. So anyway, we went upstairs and worked on 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:20.040 this song and I said, do you like it? I 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:21.320 knew I was stealing his. 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:23.680 Yeah, stealing his job. 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:25.800 Basically he was cool. 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:29.640 I mean he was very stoic kind of guy. Yeah, yeah, 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:36.120 I really enjoyed the experience of this, So this opportunity 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:38.400 that Michael gave me, and I mean, of course I 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:43.840 brought something forward. Yeah, it was I get choked up. 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:47.800 Sometimes, so it's there. It was originally a two and 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:50.560 a half minute song that you delivered on cassette and 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:51.640 I know, Okay. 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:53.360 It's on Spotify. 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:54.680 It is what's it called. 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:56.800 It's called boy Meets World? 0:16:57.320 --> 0:16:59.160 What is it really? 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:02.000 Yes, go listen to it or else send me. 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:04.159 Tell us the story. So you get it from two 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:05.879 and a half minutes, you get it down to the 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:08.760 twenty five seconds they need. Then where do you go 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:09.359 record it? 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:15.040 Well, there was a session at Capital Studios, Okay, which 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:20.000 is where everybody famous and I mean I met. I 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:24.280 was walking around Big Big Bad Voodoo Daddy. Yeah, they were. 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:28.040 They were recording in studios so cool. I'm like walking 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:32.480 around their studio the dark. I didn't even turn the 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:35.359 lights on. You know. They were in a and I 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:39.560 was in B and ray. They were doing all the 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:41.840 they were doing the que music. That's why they were 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:48.280 doing all the Q music between you hey to Panga, right, 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:52.080 do all of that stuff. And so I didn't come 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:55.760 until late and uh, but I did. I went into 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:58.520 the it was actually a green room. The paint, the 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:00.920 paint on the wall, it was a material on these 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:04.880 There were a bunch of old, old guys with horns 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:06.480 and I'm like they were the guys who did the 0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:11.840 horns for the Judsons. Oh, oh, cool, amazing song. That's 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:16.879 cool it was so you can tell excited. I I'm sorry, 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:21.040 I'm really don't ever apologize the amazing. The experience was 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:22.359 off the charts for me. 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:24.680 Was that your first time at Capital Studios? 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:29.600 Yes, first time? I'm not famous. You guys made me 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:30.600 famous in a. 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:35.080 Sense, so you get the job and then it starts 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:36.439 airing on TV. 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:39.800 Yes. And I saw it for the first time at 0:18:39.800 --> 0:18:42.560 a place called I had a gig at the gig 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:48.040 in West la and I was eating at the Arsenal 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:49.840 and it was the first time I ever saw the show. 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:52.560 Then I got married and had a honeymoon in England 0:18:52.600 --> 0:18:56.440 and I saw it for the second time in Yorkshire. Wow. Really, 0:18:57.000 --> 0:19:00.880 there's a lot of love and emotion for you know, 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:04.400 for me and what this was. And you know it's 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:08.239 not like, oh it opened doors for me, absolutely posts that. 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:10.800 I mean, that's the idea. I'm a businessman too, but 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:14.120 it was so special. 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:18.160 So the song's airing on Boy Meets World on Friday nights. 0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:20.520 Are you as you're doing gigs around town? Are you 0:19:20.600 --> 0:19:21.680 performing the song too? 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:25.520 No, because I got married in my first woryalty check, 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:30.840 went to my wife's wedding ring and we had a baby, 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:34.480 And yes, I was writing music, but I wasn't performing. 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:36.440 Okay, you weren't performing at that time. 0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:39.119 And I have performed it in DC. I performed it 0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:43.440 out here, the long version, the short version. I've done 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:46.920 it acoustically, you know, in a you know, coffee houses 0:19:46.960 --> 0:19:50.159 and stuff. But it's always fun to see a smile 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:54.159 on someone's face because, of course, you guys made everybody 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:55.080 so happy. 0:19:55.480 --> 0:20:11.639 You're so sweet. What's the funniest story you have from 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:15.639 revealing to someone that you're the guy who sings the 0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:16.840 Boy Meets the World themes song? 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:24.720 Having my friends come over with their daughter who had dinner. 0:20:24.760 --> 0:20:26.080 This is when we were in an apartment and we 0:20:26.119 --> 0:20:29.919 just had our first baby in Miss Hollywood, and she 0:20:29.960 --> 0:20:31.320 couldn't even look me in the eye. 0:20:32.480 --> 0:20:34.600 She was just that excited, still enamored by it. 0:20:34.640 --> 0:20:36.600 And she was young, she was only like eight or nine. 0:20:36.640 --> 0:20:39.240 It wasn't like she was a she was a young lady, 0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:42.320 but she was a girl. And I'm like, it's okay, 0:20:44.600 --> 0:20:47.040 I wrote a song insange. I mean there's a lot 0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:49.919 of those. What you're asking me, Danielle is, yeah, there's 0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:53.640 I couldn't even know. There's a bag, a full bag 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:55.960 of that stuff happened, and that happened in my life. 0:20:56.520 --> 0:20:59.320 It still happens. It still happens. I just got off 0:20:59.320 --> 0:21:02.959