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Speaker 1: I'm like the you know, if somebody says they're sick,

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Speaker 3: Know you were sick for three weeks, four weeks, and

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Speaker 1: And Alex is the exact opposite. She's like, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: So because it's kind of like, yeah, cleaning them.

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Speaker 1: So then everything seems fun for another week and I

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Speaker 3: I was in my shed alone.

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Speaker 1: It's just like whoa this is about who's picking up

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Speaker 3: There are certain sounds that can immediately bring Boy Meets

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Speaker 2: Yeah, stealing his job.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes, so it's there. It was originally a two and

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Speaker 5: It's because of you guys. Again. Later, way after I

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Speaker 5: Coming to la. I made my way into people. Stephen

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Speaker 5: although many since, but they came to my record release

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Speaker 5: party at the Hollywood Athletic Club. Michael came, which yeah,

444
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Speaker 5: that's cool. Yeah, I mean there was a lot of

445
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Speaker 5: fun and a lot of good things, but it just

446
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Speaker 5: didn't proceed through the band as much. We had the

447
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Speaker 5: first color posters in town. Flyers really a footcone and building,

448
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Speaker 5: and they had like amazing printers. You know, everyone had

449
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Speaker 5: black and white stuff. You know, we had the first

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Speaker 5: color stuff around.

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Speaker 3: That's so cool. Your career ended up kind of taking

452
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Speaker 3: a significant turn toward digital marketing and entrepreneurship. How did

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Speaker 3: your creative background and music influence your work in those industries?

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Speaker 3: And tell us what you're up to now left, left.

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Speaker 5: And right brain girl, Yeah, yeah, combination of both. I

456
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Speaker 5: had to be a I had to learn business because

457
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Speaker 5: I needed to take care of a family. Yeah, I

458
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Speaker 5: put my life on hold, musical life on hold. I

459
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Speaker 5: did some, but it became a third priority right first,

460
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Speaker 5: which is okay. I'm not sad. I have three great children,

461
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Speaker 5: but it's uh. You know, I've owned a few companies

462
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Speaker 5: in digital average. I got in right at the beginning.

463
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Speaker 5: I've had a very lucky God higher power. I've been

464
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Speaker 5: and I'm not a super religious person. Definitely, there's been

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Speaker 5: some intervention in my life that kept me going and

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Speaker 5: staying on the top. And I think it's again just

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Speaker 5: you just keep going. Yeah, not like I'm not a

468
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Speaker 5: depressed person. Maybe that's why i haven't written the best

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Speaker 5: lyrics of my life.

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Speaker 2: I'm some sadness.

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Speaker 5: I've had sadness and I have it's been pain. But

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Speaker 5: I think the best is about to come, believe it

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Speaker 5: or not.

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Speaker 3: That's great.

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Speaker 2: It's a great way to look at it.

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Speaker 3: Do you notice any very specific inspiration in the Boy

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Speaker 3: Meets World theme song, like anything in particular ins Yeah,

478
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Speaker 3: like what, well, I.

479
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Speaker 5: Think my music the stuff I was doing at the time.

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Speaker 5: You know, when I was writing, I wrote the music

481
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Speaker 5: for the band and had a record you know that

482
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Speaker 5: was about to come out and an EP. Actually I've

483
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Speaker 5: never released a real record and I have about a

484
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Speaker 5: eighty songs to release. Wow, what a good marketer. I

485
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 5: am right anyway, my friends give me about that. I

486
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 5: think it was understanding the show watching it. I'd been

487
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Speaker 5: written writing stuff for Disney, for and even Hannah Barbera.

488
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Speaker 5: I'd be writing some stuff for people because that was

489
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Speaker 5: a good way to make money besides waiting tables. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I love too. I mean I love everything. I don't

491
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Speaker 5: you know when I go wait tables, I can't be

492
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Speaker 5: playing in a studio, and actors and actresses that are

493
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Speaker 5: that wait tables are like I can't wait to my

494
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Speaker 5: next audition. I'm like, get into what you're doing at

495
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Speaker 5: the moment. So I was just in the moment, and

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Speaker 5: that's what came out. You know, remember talking to me

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Speaker 5: from the stage of a.

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Speaker 3: Shoot, No no, tell us the story.

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Speaker 5: I came with a fraternity brother who was out here

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Speaker 5: on a conference at a conference, and I said, I

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Speaker 5: take them to a taping. Yeah, CBS not. I mean,

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Speaker 5: it's so weird how the cross functional you know, studios are,

503
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Speaker 5: and and more than anything besides seeing you guy, you know,

504
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Speaker 5: it's bleachers. You got like bleachers, you got like I

505
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Speaker 5: use the comedian and who kind of does Mitch me

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Speaker 5: and Mickey Dolan's was was he an associate producer.

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Speaker 3: Or he was the director? Probably that week he directed

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Speaker 3: a couple of us.

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Speaker 5: My song is very monkey aesque. It's extremely monkey ask

510
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Speaker 5: if you listen to it. Yeah, I'm a huge fan

511
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Speaker 5: of their music. His voice, especially in an incredible voice.

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Speaker 5: And they weren't play their room music.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 5: Don Kirshner just blew them out of you know, wouldn't

515
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 5: let them play and that pissed them off.

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Speaker 3: So Mickey was there, and you're in the audience.

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Speaker 5: Mickey there, but my friend stood up and said, this

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Speaker 5: is the guy that did the new theme song. You

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Speaker 5: know my friend did that. Oh my gosh, you don't remember. Okay,

520
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Speaker 5: of course you've had a lot of life, you know,

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Speaker 5: so you don't remember. And and and then Mickey said

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Speaker 5: you got to sing the song. And I'm like, well,

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Speaker 5: at that point, I wasn't as confident in my voice

524
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Speaker 5: without a guitar, and I didn't want to do it.

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Speaker 5: And and he goes sing this song and I sang it. Actually,

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Speaker 5: you said I we're not I didn't want to do it,

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Speaker 5: and you said we're not going to continue tape it

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Speaker 5: sorry this song.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 5: So I'm up there and I'm like, when this is

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Speaker 5: boy meets for us and he's like, the guy's like,

532
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Speaker 5: he didn't sing that song.

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Speaker 3: Oh so funny.

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Speaker 5: It's a true story, true dad.

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Speaker 3: So funny. What are you up to now, Phil? Where

536
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Speaker 3: can people find you? What can we hear? Tell us

537
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Speaker 3: what you're up to now?

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Speaker 5: Actually a lot's going on right now because I'm I'm

539
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 5: actually about to buy a jeep and go up to

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Speaker 5: Seattle and visit my twenty three year old daughter and

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Speaker 5: her boyfriend, nice with them, and work because I'm you know,

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Speaker 5: I've been I've made money from this screen for years.

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Speaker 5: And I'm going to buy two of my guitars back

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Speaker 5: that I sold and I'm going to kind of be

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Speaker 5: a troubadour for a little while.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you caught me in a in like a

548
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Speaker 5: major transition of life. You you guys were everything. And

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Speaker 5: you know when this boy meets real? Do you made

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Speaker 5: this boy meet the world? Girl come from Sri Lanka,

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Speaker 5: Auslia beware in the world. Wow, that show your show

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Speaker 5: impacted So it made me somewhat of a name, you know,

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Speaker 5: and people like the song. I've heard people say they

554
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Speaker 5: hate my song some of the.

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Speaker 6: Chat listen, ye, welcome, welcome to the world.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the world.

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Speaker 5: I don't care. That's stuff doesn't bother me. Yeah, I

558
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 5: know who I am at this point in life exactly.

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Speaker 6: Just think about those people when you're cashing those checks

560
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Speaker 6: from Sri Lanka.

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Speaker 5: Well, they're small at this point in time.

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Speaker 3: I know, we don't know, we know, we're aware, but

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Speaker 3: it's okay.

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Speaker 5: You guys are aware, we know, we know. Well.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for being here with us. Phil.

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Speaker 3: It's really been interesting to hear the origin story of

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Speaker 3: the song. It's great to see where you are now.

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Speaker 3: You have some legendary stories, and thank you for coming

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Speaker 3: and sharing them with us.

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Speaker 5: You know, you guys helped my life a lot, and

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Speaker 5: it's embarrassed. I'm glad I was there for you as

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Speaker 5: much as you know Michael for me. Are you guys?

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Thank you well.

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Speaker 3: Listen for email. We want to hear, we want to hear.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to look on Spotify for the original song.

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Speaker 5: I'll you a link to it. It's that easy.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Thank you, Bye bye.

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Speaker 6: He's that guy that, like at a party you just

580
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Speaker 6: sit next to and he just would have story after

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Speaker 6: like playing cool with Steven Stills in his head, like

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Speaker 6: that kind of thing, just story after story of rock

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Speaker 6: and roll stuff.

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Speaker 3: It's so interesting too that I never really thought about

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Speaker 3: how Ray Colecord would have felt about the idea that

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Speaker 3: now they're bringing in someone from the outside to write

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Speaker 3: a new theme song. And I we didn't get the

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Speaker 3: answer from him, but I wonder what the answer to

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Speaker 3: that question was when he said, Hey, Ray, do you

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Speaker 3: like it? I wonder if I was like, no, I've

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00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 3: got criticisms, or if he was like, you know, I

592
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 3: like it.

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00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't. I'm I'm I was.

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Speaker 1: I was kind of expecting him to say that, like

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Speaker 1: Michael wrote the lyric.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's what I was gonna ask, Michael jump in that.

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Speaker 1: No, it sounds like he wrote a two and a

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Speaker 1: half minutes version and then they just cut it down.

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Speaker 6: No, not for this song, but doesn't didn't Michael Wasn't

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Speaker 6: he known for writing? Didn't he write write the theme

601
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Speaker 6: songs as for his other shows?

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00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I thought so, yeah so, And I think I wonder

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Speaker 1: if if Michael wrote the guitar theme for his own logo,

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Speaker 1: because you know, that Michael Jacobs has.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't in that?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, maybe he might have.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that was Ray I don't know, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Interesting Michael musician sing Yeah.

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