WEBVTT - Ep. 232: Render - Backcountry Law Enforcement 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:17.239 My name is Klay Nukleman. This is a production of 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:21.400 the Bear Grease podcast called The Bear Grease Render where 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:25.760 we render down, dive deeper, and look behind the scenes 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:30.560 of the actual bear Grease podcast. Presented by f h 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:35.360 F Gear, American Maid, purpose built hunting and fishing gear 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:38.559 that's designed to be as rugged as the place as 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:43.840 we explore. Show me your bow. 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:51.239 We've got a Os George self bow. This one is 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:54.760 kind of snaky, like you can see the grain on 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:59.880 the actual stave is real snaky, and so we like 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:03.200 for all that. Yeah, I mean it makes the bow. 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:04.800 Look a lot cooler. It's a little character. 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:09.200 It's not necessarily the most functional, and it is really 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:13.160 hard to make it actually work, yeah, because of the snake. Yeah, 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:16.680 and just like in this one in particular, it's just 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:20.119 like covered with knots and it's pretty hard. 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:21.080 But does it. 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:24.360 Well, that's what I'm working on now. 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:27.560 It's not in progress. Yeah. 0:01:27.720 --> 0:01:31.400 Yeah, So right now it's like probably sixty five pounds 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:34.399 if you're to drop back all the way, which I 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:37.559 haven't because I only want it to be like forty 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:38.720 eight mm hmm. 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:40.600 Let me see it now, this is a state you 0:01:40.640 --> 0:01:44.679 got off our property, right yep. Actually David Albright got 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:47.280 it off our property like two years ago. Oh and 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:49.800 then and they gave you the dryday and then gave 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:51.440 it to me. Yep, boomerang. 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:53.160 What percentage done? 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:53.840 Is that bow? 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:55.160 Probably? 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:59.600 I'll recur percent got a little recurve on there. 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:01.880 He put the on there, I know ends it and 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:05.760 then he's yep. One of our guests today is my 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:09.320 friend Joe Lyles. Joe, you're an old recurve hunter. 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:13.279 I am. That's I started recurve hunting in twenty seventeen. 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:17.120 Twenty seventeen, yep, and sold my compound. 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:19.400 And you might need to pull that back from your 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:20.519 lips just a little bit. 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:23.160 How about right there? That's great, Okay, we're good. When 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:27.760 did you start triad hunting twenty seventeen? Yeah, and I 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:31.440 had a compound and started hunting with my precurve and 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:34.880 having looked back since, yeah, and really enjoy it. 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:36.280 Have you shot a self bow? 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:36.720 I have? 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:38.440 I have not, not like that. 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:40.040 I've never hunted with one. 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:42.640 And the one I have, I've got a black widow, 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:45.760 a forty pound black widow, and it shoots really good. 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:48.800 Yeah, I really like it. What's the difference between a 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:50.160 self bow and a long. 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:54.720 Bow, Well, a self bow is it's a terrible descriptor 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:56.760 who I want to talk to the guy that I 0:02:56.800 --> 0:03:01.600 think self bow relies on its self for strength, like 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:03.720 one piece of wood. 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:07.280 So like if if it's like send you backed or something, 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:09.800 if there was not a self fifty. 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:12.400 Different ways to name this and the components and the 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:16.360 physics and the dynamics and the spirituality of the flight 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:19.960 of the mystical arrow. I would not pick self to 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:26.519 describe this. I would call it a yeah, homemade, Okay, 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:29.280 that would be a logical description. I would call it 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:32.560 a one piece bow, like it's just one piece of wood. 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:37.000 They do make two piece single that would we would 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:38.360 call that a two piece. 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:40.880 With fries. 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:45.560 No, this is uh, this is the the most primitive 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:48.360 type of bow. But a self bow is one that's 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:50.320 made from a single piece of wood, just whittled down 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:53.400 and so like a long bow like I have over there. 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:56.280 The modern long bows like Joe his Black Widow would 0:03:56.320 --> 0:04:02.840 be a laminated bow, so have multiple different tops of wood, fiberglass, 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:07.400 different you know, different material in it. But this is 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:11.320 the way that I mean the Native Americans would have 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:13.560 made bose at one piece most of them. 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:17.320 Yeah, this doesn't have much to do with nomenclature, but 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:19.960 it does have to do with O Sage Orange and Bear. 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:23.280 When Bear was a little boy, words that had three 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:25.840 plus syllables were a little bit tough for him. Yeah, 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:28.680 I mean he could pronounce him fine, but he was 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:31.800 really intentional about it pretty good. But this was one 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:33.760 of the words. Say George was hard for him. So 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:38.320 he would say bulldozer. He'd say bulldozer, strawberry. He would like, 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:42.120 really put the weight on the second syllable. And George 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:45.760 was He would say George. And I remember and every 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:47.200 time I hear O Sage Orange, I hear it in 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:51.360 little Bear's boys would oh say George. 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:59.160 Always. And he's got a dog named Osage. Yeah, dog, 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:01.919 I thought about get a dog again. It's gonna be 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:05.480 a it's a tree and feist. It's gonna be good. Well, uh, 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:07.920 Bear eventually is going to make me a bow. 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:08.720 Yep. 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:13.239 Bear Bear made a bow that he donated to the 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:17.800 Meat Eater Audit House of Oddities auction house, and it 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:20.359 uh sold for a thousand dollars, didn't it? 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:22.200 I think? Yeah? 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:23.440 And that one was straight. 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:25.120 What percentage of that you get. 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:33.960 I got yeah named after you? 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:39.719 Yeah, yeah, No, that's cool, that's cool. I was actually 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:45.239 going to show my bow very Uh. This is the 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:49.039 fanciest bow I've ever seen. This is I've never owned 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:53.839 a fancier bow with the back stabilizers, front stabilizers and 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:58.280 then the adjustable adjustable. Sit there, Joe, I'm going on 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:00.520 a mountain goat hunt in Alaska, and month. 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:04.600 That's complicated anymore. I look at that stuff and then 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:08.039 compared to just my recurve, not just it's complicated. 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:08.960 I know it is. 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:09.640 How much? 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:10.120 Is it way? 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:11.359 Four or five pounds? 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:14.599 Oh more than that? Probably it's pretty heavy. I don't 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:20.479 actually don't know, but I you know, I shot trad 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:27.400 exclusively for seven years from about twenty thirteen to around 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:31.640 twenty twenty, Like that was my primary weapon. And it's 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:34.520 funny how people in the hunting community treat that. They're 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:37.960 like when they see it, they're like surprised that you 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:41.680 would have a compound bow, or they're upset with you 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:45.240 for having a compound bow. And I've always just kind 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:47.920 of gone back and forth, don't and you know, just 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:49.800 there's there'll be times when I want to focus on 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:53.240 trad and then times when the focus of the hunt 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:57.120 is more on something else like actually harvested an animal, 0:06:57.160 --> 0:06:59.560 like the limiting factor, like with a mountain goat man. 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:02.960 All gosh, it would be very difficult. Like a short shot. 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:07.120 It's forty fifty yards a short that's what That's what 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:08.960 I'm told, and a lot of a lot of steep 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:11.720 angles and different things. So the reason I have all 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:14.160 this is I'm going to, you know, trying to extend 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:16.920 my effective range by cheating. 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:19.520 Yep, yeah, I would be too. 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:23.960 So what what do you feel comfortable shooting that bout? 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:24.400 Well? 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:29.360 I can, I can. I can shoot a group at 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:32.720 seventy yards. You know, my best group out of three 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:36.080 groups is going to be about six inches at seventy 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:39.120 It's pretty good. And I'm shooting pretty heavy arrow cut 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:41.119 on impact broadhead. I mean, I don't want to shoot 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:43.640 a one that far. But in that game, you that's 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:44.440 just kind of the. 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:45.920 Game wind up there too. 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:52.120 Yeah. Yeah, but but I have a secret weapon. Yeah, 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:55.239 I can't talk about it. 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:56.440 Odds. 0:07:56.680 --> 0:08:00.000 Yeah, Brent, you've been You've been commercial fishing. 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:01.040 That's all I do. 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:03.840 Man, you're a commercial fisherman. Yeah, have you have you 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:07.800 caught some fish lately. I actually have yeah, been going good. 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:15.640 One a couple of weeks ago. One catfish. 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:18.520 Yeah, are they all catfish or you get other stuff 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:21.800 mixed in there, cropping and stuff, you know, you just 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:22.600 they're piled up. 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:24.600 We just throw them up on the bank. No, I'm kidding. 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:29.280 We hadn't caught one sport fish, one game fish. You 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:33.600 know what I mean, catfish these nets. Catfish is classified 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:36.559 as a sport fish, and you know commercial fish, rough fish. 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:41.199 But we yeah, we've caught a few buffalo. We caught 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:43.280 a big old drum. I put a hoop net out. Man, 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:46.880 it's four foot hoop net. You could catch that bear, 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:50.240 but stepped behind Joe in it. I caught one buffalo 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:52.439 at one drum in it. That's all we've caught so far. 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:54.800 So the hoop net thing is kind of escaping us. 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:57.080 But oh, now, what kind of nets are. 0:08:56.960 --> 0:08:59.240 You using to use? Wire nets? Wire nets? 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:00.480 Putting some kind of in there. 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:02.000 Yep, cheese cheese block. 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:04.920 It's like a the size of a block of velvety 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:06.920 cheese and it's cheese and fish. 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:07.880 Yeah, four fish. 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:10.199 We cut and knock them in half and put them 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:14.120 in there inside the throat of the of the fiddler net, 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:16.680 and then the fish went up in there and go 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:18.280 to chomping, and then we'd catch them. 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:20.600 But the hoop but the hoop nets a little tougher. 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:23.880 Hoop nets just catching fish like in current just kind of. 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:26.160 Yeah, it's tougher for folks that don't know what you're doing. 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:28.720 We're just learning. Yeah, do you bait those two? 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:30.839 You can? But but we hadn't been. 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:34.079 Okay, I'm surprised to hear that fish are not dairy free. 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:35.920 They're not dairy free. 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:38.680 I'm surprised cheese cheese could be. 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:39.640 I don't even. I don't. 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:41.839 Well, they nurse off their mothers when they're young, so 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:44.440 probably that's. 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:49.559 Probably what it is. That makes zero sense. Who invited him? 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:52.599 Josh, you caught a big brown trout yesterday around the 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:53.679 room here catching up? 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:54.840 Yeah, one out late. 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:55.680 How big was that fish? 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:56.280 You look big? 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:58.199 It was probably eighteen nineteen inches. 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:00.480 When Brent saw it, he said, would you say, look 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:01.400 at that stick of butter? 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:04.360 Big stick, a big stick of butter. Beautiful beautiful fish. 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:07.640 Beautiful night out on the cool river and the heat, 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:09.720 and it's like nature's air conditioned. 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:11.400 It was a good night it was good. 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:14.160 It was funny because I was fishing with a buddy 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:17.280 of mine and we fish for probably close to two 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:19.200 hours and caught like one fish each. 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:22.320 After dark, well no, no, this is before dark. 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:25.640 We started fishing about five thirty and uh Man had 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:30.080 just been trying to hone my guide skills and prospecting 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:33.520 on different flies, and went through probably a dozen different 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:38.160 flies and finally found the light switch and in the 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:40.560 last hour and a half we probably caught twenty fish. 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:44.440 And you done that big brown one, And yeah, not yet, 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:49.520 I've got You've got another buddy. I don't know that 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:51.880 there's a time of year, but you I think you 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:53.360 can do it pretty much all year round, but I 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:55.880 think it's better in the fall and winter. Okay, but 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:57.839 I've got a buddy who's been tying up a bunch 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:00.880 of mouse patterns, and we'll go out and night mice 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:04.400 at night, you know, stripping the stripping a mouse. That's 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:07.080 where you catch the big predatory browns. Really really yeah, 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:07.920 they'll they'll eat. 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:12.199 I guess a lot of mouse would just cross the river. 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:13.880 Yep, that's not far. 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:18.960 There's a there's a film that was shot in New Zealand. 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:23.199 Uh once in a blue moon or something. I can't 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:25.760 remember the exact name of it, but you could see 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:27.040 it on YouTube. 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:30.079 Was it that film that the that the yet he 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:31.800 did I don't. 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:34.760 I don't think so. This is they may have, but 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:36.319 but I don't think so. They may have done one. 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:38.600 But the one I saw was like in New Zealand, 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:41.360 and it's very I don't even know if there's any words, 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:43.960 and it's just starts out of this guy's in this 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:47.320 cabin and he sets his camera down, this little mouse 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:50.800 run up on the counter. I mean, you set the 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:54.280 stage of what's going on in the area. Personally, I 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:56.200 would have lit a railroad flare and dropped it in 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:59.760 the bedroom and walked out of there because I don't no. 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:05.960 And but then he starts. You see these humongous brown 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:10.120 trout eating these mice, and when the moon's full, really 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:14.480 and it's just pandemonium. Man, it's really cool, really really 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:18.280 cool shot. How the lot of slow motion stuff, it's 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:18.720 really cool. 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:22.040 One When a mature brown trout reaches eighteen inches, its 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:27.160 diet switches from primarily bugs and you know, small crustaceans 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:30.720 in the water to other fish and a and a 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:33.800 mature brown trout will eat another trout up to two 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:34.400 thirds of. 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:37.920 Its body length. Yeah, it's pretty amazing. So there. Wow. 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:40.320 They become serious predators when. 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:40.840 They get that big. 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:44.160 Wow. So if you want to go fishing with Josh, 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:47.160 you're a god god here in our the beavertail water 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:48.280 in Northwest. 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:50.079 As Josh Lambert Spilmaker. 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:53.080 Yeah, but y'all can talk about that on your own podcast. 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:58.360 We don't talk about fly fishing. Just kidding, just kidding, 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:01.400 just that, y'all. Little fly is a big fly fisherman, 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:02.800 brent on. 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:03.840 The heck of a fly? 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:04.679 Is he really? 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:08.880 He is a natural like he has a natural instinct. 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:09.760 Do you think it's his hair? 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:13.600 Probably? Yes, probably I want to cut a lock of 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:15.160 it and tie a big streamer out of it. 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:17.280 Fishoeish. 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:19.560 No, And that's what I was telling Josh. You know, 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:20.360 Je just. 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:22.079 Moved that out just a little bit more. 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:23.760 A little bit more. 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:25.240 Yeah, yeah, and no. 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:28.080 I used to a little bit with Dwayne Hayden. Dwayne 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:31.600 Hayda was my art teacher back in nineteen eighty five 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:32.840 at Mean High School. 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:36.000 Now is he the famous fly fisherman you were talking about? 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:36.480 Yeah? 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:36.800 Really? 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:39.240 And he was my art teacher and we used to 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:42.080 actually go down to Albert Pike and fly fish a 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:42.520 little bit. 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:43.200 Huh. 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:46.280 But since then, no, you know, I haven't fished anymore 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:49.120 since then as far as fly fishing, Yeah, and I 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:50.640 don't fish much at all anymore. 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:51.400 I used to a lot. 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:55.080 Yeah, but like I was talking to you about motorcycles 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:56.680 and stuff like that, I got to riding a little 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:58.920 bit of motocross and since then, you know, no, I 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:02.600 hadn't hardly fished all mainly just hon Yeah, you. 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:06.720 Talked about tying flies out of bears hair. Those two 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:10.240 flies up there, I tad out of Saskatchewan bear hair. 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:12.360 Oh man, Yeah, that's right. 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:14.679 If you come in here and one of those is missing, 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:15.200 it wasn't me. 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:20.160 Okay, We've got some specialty. Tim the squirrel dog hair 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:22.720 flies bears experiment. 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:28.280 He made flies out of my own hair, flies out 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:31.200 of pieces of turkey beard tim hair. 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:37.320 Mule hair, really mule hair. Yeah, you you start talking 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:40.040 to me before you start pulling hairs out of my mules. 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:42.240 Where did you get the turkey beard? 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:44.480 Turkey? 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:49.280 He didn't. Did you kill a turkey last year? Yeah? Sorry? 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:51.240 The Mississippi one? 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:54.680 Or I killed two. I killed one Tennessee one Mississippi. 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:55.080 There you go. 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:57.560 Yeah, Brent called them both in for. 0:14:57.560 --> 0:14:59.480 Me off the phone. 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:07.040 Uh what else, mule? I think that's all that I can. Well, 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:09.160 and then all the normal stuff that you would use, 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:12.400 like pheasant tails, Yeah, yeah, all the normal stuff. 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:14.640 Yeah, but it is kind of cool to you stuff that, 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:17.640 like you've killed Oh and I have I made some 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:19.720 out of my blonde Montana bear. 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:24.040 Oh yeah, but yeah, and then turkey feathers and just 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:24.400 have you. 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:25.520 Caught fish on these flies? 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:29.360 Yeah? Caught one on a klouser out of my hair? 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:34.440 How does Tim? How does Tim? Here? 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:34.600 And do? 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:35.360 It? 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:36.160 Does pretty good? 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:39.720 It's kind of like the the like whiskers on a crawdad, 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:42.600 not like the antennas, but like right at the mouth, 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:45.000 you know, just tie like a little Are. 0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:46.760 You plucking these hairs out of your dough? 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:47.080 No? 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:48.080 I up? 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:49.960 And he just kind of stands there and you just 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:51.280 nip them. 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:59.680 Got a bald spot? Well, we have a couple of corkies. 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:03.600 So if you hair, yeah, we got it. I got 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:05.479 a lot of it. Yeah. 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:07.760 Well, okay, so I've kind of gone around the room here. 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:10.600 Tell us about your garden, Miss nukem. 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:11.160 Oh hell nice? 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:13.800 Well, I got sweet corn out of it this week, 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:16.280 which is pretty exciting. Yeah, I think we're gonna have 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:18.280 a big year for tomatoes. I've heard it's not great 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:20.400 everywhere else, but it looks like it's a big year 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:23.600 for us. I've had two really great strawberry we love. 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:27.440 I like kind of like suddenly like taking the knees 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:32.960 out of other recreational farmers. 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:34.920 I have a big goal this year. 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:37.320 I really want and I've wanted this for the last 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:39.200 couple of years, but each year I've run into a problem. 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:42.600 I really really really want a big pumpkin, like one 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:42.880 of those. 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:44.520 I mean, you have to devote your life to it 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:46.160 if you want a competition. 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:47.240 That you use Seven's nests. 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:52.080 We have really bad squash bucks here, and yeah, really bad. 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:54.360 And I keep thinking I can get around it in 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:57.080 natural ways and I can't. And my friend Jessica went 0:16:57.080 --> 0:16:59.360 to the farmer's market and she just kind of assumed 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:03.080 that everyone there was like organic farming. And she asked 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:06.440 the woman and the woman was not a she didn't 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:08.400 really understand what Jessco was saying. She wasn't a native 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:11.040 English speaker, and she looked at Jessica and she just 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:12.240 said seven seven. 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:14.240 She finally started to figure out what she said, and 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:21.840 Jessica's like, oh, gone, it sevens does maybe for maybe 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:25.440 for pumpkins. I don't know. I'm starting to waiver, you know, mine. 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:28.399 I noticed my fidelity apple trees are. 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:29.480 Like, they're incredible. 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:32.080 That's incredible, apple incredible. 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:34.280 And we had a real early spring, and this is 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:36.160 not interesting to most people. So this is a bad 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:38.800 deal that Clay asked me this question, because I could. 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:39.760 Go on and on, big Farmer. 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:42.240 But we had a real early spring. 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:44.040 And usually when you have an early spring, the apple 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:46.919 apple blossoms pop out and then you have a frost 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:47.640 and they all die. 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:49.600 And this year they didn't. So I think we're gonna 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:50.480 have apples in July. 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:54.880 I really make an apple butter in augustocause I'm out 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:56.200 apple butter. 0:17:56.320 --> 0:17:56.920 What I'm out? 0:17:57.240 --> 0:17:57.960 Out of the good stuff. 0:17:58.000 --> 0:17:59.840 Oh oh, you're out. I thought you were. You didn't want it. 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:01.040 I'm out uneven. 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:04.680 I met a guy yesterday, Willard Blinds in Newton County, 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:09.720 that still makes his own sorghum molasses. He grows a 0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:13.000 big patch of sorghum and has a meal that he 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:17.520 runs with mules ye oh my god, and makes there 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:17.800 was a. 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:21.600 Guy down the road from where we lived that you'd 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:24.080 go by and he'd have a mule out there going 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:26.880 around in that sorgum meal. Oh really Yeah, he sitt 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:28.680 there in a bucket and every time that comes by, 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:30.840 he'd lean over it go by. 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:32.119 Yeah, you know, the. 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:36.680 Big pole he had that he had the mule look 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:38.160 to going around in circles. 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:40.520 I don't know that I could identify sorghum if I 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:41.560 saw it. 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:46.400 And it grows everywhere in my compost ben now because 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:48.200 I got rid of some of it, and the seeds 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:49.000 are pretty. 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:51.440 By a patch the other day. 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:55.280 Yeah, yeah, it's it's hard to tell. It's it's hard 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:57.439 for me to tell the difference between young corn and 0:18:57.480 --> 0:19:00.440 so on. But it's it's it's the same kind of plant, 0:19:00.440 --> 0:19:02.919