WEBVTT - Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #17

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<v Speaker 1>Also media.

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<v Speaker 2>This is it could happen here. Executive Disorder, our weekly

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<v Speaker 2>newscast covering what's happening in the White House, the crumbling world,

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<v Speaker 2>and what it means for you. I'm Garson Davis. Today

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<v Speaker 2>I'm joined by Mia Wong, James Stout, and Sophie Lichterman.

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<v Speaker 2>This episode, we are covering the week of May fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>to May twenty. First, Joe Biden has prostate cancer. There's

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<v Speaker 2>anti natalist terrorism, and the DHS is maybe gonna do

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<v Speaker 2>a reality TV show. Probably not, but it's a bad plan.

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<v Speaker 2>How are we doing this week?

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<v Speaker 3>That's a trifector from hell.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's so bad.

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<v Speaker 5>This one's so bad. It's really I have to do

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<v Speaker 5>the laughing like right here, because good Lord, like, oh

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<v Speaker 5>many many of these weeks are bad. This one's particularly bad.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, DHS reality show.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get to that at the at the ending segment. Sure, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>this is Gear from the Future cutting in. We recorded

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<v Speaker 2>this a few hours before some pretty major news, the

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<v Speaker 2>shooting of two Israeli embassy staff in DC. We will

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<v Speaker 2>be talking about this in next week's Executive Disorder, as

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<v Speaker 2>well as the new budget bill, which targets trends healthcare.

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<v Speaker 2>Now back to the episode, I think let's start with,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a brief acknowledgment of Joe Biden's prostate cancer.

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<v Speaker 2>What was Jill doing to him? Oh my god, Garrison.

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<v Speaker 4>You could have said that at the bottom, man, you didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm allowed to say that because I'm the most gay,

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<v Speaker 2>guye coded person on the podcast, which is saying something

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<v Speaker 2>so so yes then and now, because we live in

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<v Speaker 2>a truly sick world. Scott Adams couldn't even let.

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<v Speaker 3>He couldn't let him have his moment.

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<v Speaker 2>He couldn't even let Joe Biden have his moment. This

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<v Speaker 2>anti Biden hatred has transcended so far that's got Adams

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't even let Biden have this moment and announced the

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<v Speaker 2>same day that Scott Adams has the exact same type

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<v Speaker 2>of prostate cancer. So two down, Biden down, Dilbert down.

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<v Speaker 2>Big week for prostate cancer.

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<v Speaker 3>And boy, how do you have people been weird about

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<v Speaker 3>it on the internet.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to get into how long he maybe

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<v Speaker 2>has known he's had it. He's he's had skin cancer

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<v Speaker 2>removed before. I think that ship has mostly sailed. I

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<v Speaker 2>think our opinions on Biden are pretty are pretty well,

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<v Speaker 2>pretty well documented. Yeah, so I don't think we can

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<v Speaker 2>dedicate much more much more time to this.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay. The one important note that I will say is,

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<v Speaker 5>if you have a prostate get checked for prostate cancer. Yeah, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>get the screening. It's good, it'll help.

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<v Speaker 4>You, unless you are over seventy five, in which case

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<v Speaker 4>I think most people don't get screened for it, right

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<v Speaker 4>because it's slow.

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<v Speaker 3>Gross.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure Biden's over seventy five.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's why somewhat I thought it was somewhat remarkable

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<v Speaker 4>part of the issue there.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, all I can say is about once a

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<v Speaker 1>month I think about how at the DNC those thank

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<v Speaker 1>you Joe Chance lasted four seconds.

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<v Speaker 2>I have actually been thinking about the thank you Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Chance for a lot of this time yes week. Frankly,

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<v Speaker 2>you had to be there. Yeah, it's one of the

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<v Speaker 2>most it's one of the most horrifying, horrifying things. As

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<v Speaker 2>they let this like very clearly dying old man out

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<v Speaker 2>to pasture because like you know, kinds are diagnosis aside,

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<v Speaker 2>very clear he was in some some degree of decline.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't need to retread this.

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<v Speaker 2>This is this is pretty well known, but no, I

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<v Speaker 2>have been thinking about how that whole auditorium broke out

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<v Speaker 2>and chanting thank you Joe for like nearly five minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the following the rest of the week not

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<v Speaker 3>a single mention it was done that day.

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<v Speaker 2>It was wild anyways, So yeah, ri Ip Dilbert, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess let's move on to anti natalist terrorism. So I've

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<v Speaker 2>learned this week that people don't know what anti natalism is, which,

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<v Speaker 2>as someone who grew up in Portland, is kind of

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<v Speaker 2>surprising to me because there was some very very prominent,

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<v Speaker 2>like anti naedalist protesters who were set up downtown outside

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<v Speaker 2>of Powell's books pretty frequently, and we kind of all

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<v Speaker 2>grew accustomed to them, and honestly, I'm a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>sympathetic to their arguments. I understand where they're coming from.

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<v Speaker 2>Anti natalism is the belief that procreation is unethical. This

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<v Speaker 2>can be based on the idea that there's been like

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<v Speaker 2>this rapid increase in human population which is on extensive

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<v Speaker 2>damage to the planet, or that's simply being born is

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<v Speaker 2>inherently a non consensual act, especially being born into a

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<v Speaker 2>world with high levels of suffering. So these people opt

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<v Speaker 2>to do not have children. As this ethical standpoint, everyone's

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<v Speaker 2>entitled to their own choice. You don't need to agree

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<v Speaker 2>with it, but whatever. Now, interestingly, this past weekend there

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<v Speaker 2>was a quote unquote active terrorism that has been linked

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<v Speaker 2>to anti natalist philosophy. I'm just talking about this as

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<v Speaker 2>it is an instance of kind of the brain ratification

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<v Speaker 2>of this entire society and the reditification of terrorism combined

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<v Speaker 2>with this growing sense of like nihilism driving violent extremist actions.

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<v Speaker 2>No one was killed except for the perpetrator alleged for

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<v Speaker 2>perpetrator in this in this incident, but I still think

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<v Speaker 2>this is worth talking about as it can be seen

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<v Speaker 2>as in a sequence of weird terrorism. This is something

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<v Speaker 2>that Robert's canna be working on for a piece later

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<v Speaker 2>later down the line. Right, this is not the first

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<v Speaker 2>car bomb this year. We had the Tesla Tesla cyber

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<v Speaker 2>truck explosion earlier, which was similarly kind of a weird,

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<v Speaker 2>a weird incident.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that one was.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that one, I think was the official inauguration

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<v Speaker 5>of the years a lead paint which were perpetually living

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<v Speaker 5>in now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, I mean the gas leak here if you will, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so yes, on Saturday, maybe seventeenth the car bomb went

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<v Speaker 2>off outside a fertility clinic in Palm Springs, California, killing

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<v Speaker 2>the suspect, twenty five year old man named Guy Edwards Barks.

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<v Speaker 2>The FBI is calling this a quoe unquote intentional act

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<v Speaker 2>of terrorism. The clinic was closed when the explosion happened.

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<v Speaker 2>The building was severely damaged, but no embryos were harmed.

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<v Speaker 2>Investigators believe that the suspect attempted to live stream the bombing,

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<v Speaker 2>with a website being found online that appeared to be

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<v Speaker 2>in connection to the incident, where the suspect describes himself

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<v Speaker 2>as a quote unquote pro mortalist.

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<v Speaker 4>Slightly slightly different, Yeah, correct.

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<v Speaker 2>It is more of an affirmative version of anti natalism,

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<v Speaker 2>where you want to actually take concrete steps to like

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<v Speaker 2>decrease the population of the planet, not necessarily in a

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<v Speaker 2>way that's like promoting like the mass killing of individuals.

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<v Speaker 2>He says, quote understand, your death is already guarantee and

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<v Speaker 2>you can thank your parents for that.

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<v Speaker 4>One.

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<v Speaker 2>All a pro mortalist is saying is let's make it

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<v Speaker 2>happen sooner rather than later to prevent your future suffering

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<v Speaker 2>and more importantly, the suffering your existence will cause to

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<v Speaker 2>all others sent to you. That's his definition of a promortalist.

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<v Speaker 2>It can be lily to other philosophies that encourage like

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<v Speaker 2>self harm and ending your own life as a conscious choice.

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<v Speaker 2>On its website, he discussed his goal of quote sterilizing

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<v Speaker 2>this planet of the disease of life unquote great and

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<v Speaker 2>declared the need for a quote unquote war against pro lifers.

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<v Speaker 2>His website also highlights other philosophies such as negative utilitarianism, ethlism,

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<v Speaker 2>abolitionist veganism. Quote. Basically, philosophies that have realized religion is

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<v Speaker 2>are worded that there is objective value in the universe

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<v Speaker 2>and it lies in the harm being experienced by sentient beings.

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<v Speaker 2>So although it may seem quote unquote dark, it's the

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<v Speaker 2>polar opposite of nonsense like nihilism.

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<v Speaker 4>Unquote.

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<v Speaker 2>Negative utilitarianism is something that comes up a few times

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<v Speaker 2>on his site as well. This is the viewpoint that

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<v Speaker 2>instead of positive utilitarism where we're trying to maximize, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>human pleasure, this is trying to minimize suffering, human suffering

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<v Speaker 2>and like the suffering tied to existence and the like

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<v Speaker 2>aggurate suffering as well as if you if there's more people,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's going to be more suffering. So you should

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<v Speaker 2>both make choices in your own life that that may

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<v Speaker 2>that may limit your suffering, but also make sure that

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<v Speaker 2>you don't reproduce, because then even more suffering will happen

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<v Speaker 2>because of your actions through your children.

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<v Speaker 5>This is the most barious shit I've ever heard of

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<v Speaker 5>my entire goddam very West Coast.

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<v Speaker 4>This is yeah, like twenty nine Palms is not It's

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<v Speaker 4>not the West Coast.

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<v Speaker 2>Like a lot of this is in conversation with like

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<v Speaker 2>the rationalist subculture rationalist. It's like it offers different solutions.

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<v Speaker 5>These these people shouldn't be allowed to use computers for

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<v Speaker 5>like fifty years, like just a ban on California using computers.

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<v Speaker 2>This is all like like deeply online stuff like these

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<v Speaker 2>are These are popular websites, subreddits like YouTube channels. These

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<v Speaker 2>are people who are dealing with like, you know, pretty

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<v Speaker 2>intense existentialism depression who then channeled into this like semi

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<v Speaker 2>niche like online community and online philosophy. Now Guy's best friend,

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<v Speaker 2>a self described quote vegan rad feme anti natalist, recently

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<v Speaker 2>arranged her own suicide by having her boyfriend to shoot

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<v Speaker 2>her while she.

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<v Speaker 3>Was what what what correct?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, this was This was the the bomber's best friend

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<v Speaker 2>who died very recently, like last month, and guy claims

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<v Speaker 2>that they were both quote unquote anti sex, missandrists with

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<v Speaker 2>borderline personality disorder, and he admits that her death quote

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<v Speaker 2>unquote put him over the edge.

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<v Speaker 5>This is the most. This is the most online like

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<v Speaker 5>like like best vegan best friend, anti natalist, has her

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<v Speaker 5>boyfriend shoot her is the most.

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<v Speaker 2>Even though her her anti natalist tumblr page has like

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<v Speaker 2>women loving women, anti gender ideology, miss andry stuff and

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<v Speaker 2>yet still has a sisterender boyfriend. In many such cases,

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<v Speaker 2>so yeah, you can see how this type of a

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<v Speaker 2>community gets like fostered and people make online friends and

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<v Speaker 2>then encourage their own self destruction.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you have to destroy the Internet.

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<v Speaker 2>A quote that he has on his website is quote,

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<v Speaker 2>I've known for years now that I wasn't going to

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<v Speaker 2>allow myself to make it.

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<v Speaker 4>Past my twenties unquote.

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<v Speaker 2>And like this is a sentiment I hear even a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of like young people saying is this, like this

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<v Speaker 2>like belief that they're not going to survive their twenties,

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<v Speaker 2>like their belief that like the world is so bent

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<v Speaker 2>on destruction that I'm probably not going to make it

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<v Speaker 2>out of my twenties right now, and that that that

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<v Speaker 2>changes the kind of choices that young people are making,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is this is getting increasingly common.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, for sure. I think it's a very different world

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<v Speaker 4>to be growing up in than like the late teenage,

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<v Speaker 4>early twenties of you know, like millennial people.

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<v Speaker 2>The millennial world.

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<v Speaker 4>It's very it's very different.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And we had manifestations of this in that millennial era, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it got kind of pushed into this, like

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<v Speaker 2>like nihilistic school shooter culture, which you still see remnants

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<v Speaker 2>of now in the true krime of community. There is

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<v Speaker 2>some crossover between an act like this and some of

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<v Speaker 2>like the school shooter fandom the Columbiner stuff, especially considering

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<v Speaker 2>the resurgence of Columbiner culture that we're currently seeing right

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<v Speaker 2>now in the United States. But yeah, the general sense

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<v Speaker 2>of like widespread dread and the interconnectedness of this is

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<v Speaker 2>more unique.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I keep thinking about that Hunter S. Thompson quote about

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<v Speaker 5>like those poor bastard troop but when after nine to eleven,

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<v Speaker 5>don't know, the party's over. The party is over, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>welcome to hop.

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<v Speaker 2>So the suspect's dad said to reporters that Guy had

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<v Speaker 2>a childhood obsession with pyrotechnics. He set the family home

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<v Speaker 2>on fire and burned it down he was nine. He

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<v Speaker 2>made rockets, stink bombs, smoke bombs as a child. Videos

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<v Speaker 2>on YouTube, likely posted by Guy show m eighties exploding

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<v Speaker 2>in the desert, a hydrogen balloon being set, a blaze,

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<v Speaker 2>and a bucket of radioactive uranium?

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<v Speaker 4>Or is that what did he obtain that like out

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<v Speaker 4>there in Wonder Valley?

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<v Speaker 2>This is still being investigated. His voice in these videos

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<v Speaker 2>matches the thirty minute audio manifesto explaining his motivation for

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<v Speaker 2>the attack, same quote. Basically, it just comes down to

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<v Speaker 2>I'm angry that I exist and that you know, nobody

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<v Speaker 2>got my consent to bring me here. Basically, I'm anti life,

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<v Speaker 2>and IVF is kind of like the epitome of pro

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<v Speaker 2>life ideology.

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<v Speaker 4>Unquote.

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<v Speaker 3>This is out there.

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<v Speaker 4>Is there any information on the I'm just because a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of explosives and other munitions have gone missing. Twenty

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<v Speaker 4>nine Palms people, My familiar is a town near ish

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<v Speaker 4>to Palm Springs, near it to Joshua Tree. There's a

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<v Speaker 4>pretty big military base. Yeah. Yeah, it's the big marine

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<v Speaker 4>corde like detO warfare training.

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<v Speaker 2>Explosives have gone missing there before. The basic claims that

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<v Speaker 2>they've been recovered. It is unclear what explosives he used

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<v Speaker 2>at this point. It was a pretty large explosion. Investing

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<v Speaker 2>are low key impressed at this explosion.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it was.

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<v Speaker 4>It was what they said in that official statement, if

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<v Speaker 4>you read between the lines, they're like surprised at how

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<v Speaker 4>effective this car bomb was.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, this was a guy who spent a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>time online, a lot of time on Reddit. It seems

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<v Speaker 2>like he got obsessed with this. He had a fascination

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<v Speaker 2>with explosives at a young age. So that obsession combined

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<v Speaker 2>with this anti natalist obsession and this urge for self

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<v Speaker 2>destruction manifested in this action.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>This this week, Reddit banned anti natalist, anti life subreddit

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<v Speaker 2>allegedly frequented by bomber.

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<v Speaker 4>I dude, just want to say that this is I

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<v Speaker 4>think the only IVS clinic in the Coachella Valley, So

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<v Speaker 4>like for people who are accessing those services, that's a

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<v Speaker 4>serious disruption, right M Yeah, that sucks.

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<v Speaker 2>So I, me and Robert are going to talk more

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<v Speaker 2>about kind of this trend that we're seeing in in

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<v Speaker 2>extremism or or in extremist acts. I still don't like

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<v Speaker 2>the nihilist buy an extremism term, but we are seeing

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<v Speaker 2>elements of that getting more and more common, especially to

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<v Speaker 2>my with the true crime community, which essentially tries to

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<v Speaker 2>encourage young girls to commit school shootings.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I guess to finish up, I just want to

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<v Speaker 4>say that, like, I know, it's a really hard time

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<v Speaker 4>right now. A lot of people are trying to find

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<v Speaker 4>ways to cope or feeling like they can't cope or

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<v Speaker 4>feel like they're not enough.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess hopelessness. This sort of like existential nihilism.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And I've combined that with a lot of people

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<v Speaker 4>who work for the government fundly finding themselves out of work,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know the economic pressure that puts on people.

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<v Speaker 4>And I understand that people are pretty in a tough

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<v Speaker 4>spot right now who want to save very briefly obviously,

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<v Speaker 4>like the world is more beautiful with you in it,

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<v Speaker 4>and if you're experiencing suicidal ideation or mental health struggles.

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<v Speaker 4>A couple of resources I want to suggest, the Fireweed

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<v Speaker 4>Collective and the Jane Adams Collective. Adams spelled with two d's,

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<v Speaker 4>there a double Dams. We will have links to both

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<v Speaker 4>of them in the showdoes you can also put them

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<v Speaker 4>into Duck dut go And they were the first responses

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<v Speaker 4>that came up for me. If you need those resources,

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<v Speaker 4>reach out to them as people.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's it's good to see the sunrise, and it's

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<v Speaker 5>better to see the sunrise with everyone you love in it.

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<v Speaker 5>And yeah, that's that's a thing that you can make

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<v Speaker 5>sure you do every day.

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<v Speaker 3>M hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, thank you, James, thanking me a. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>go and break and then come back to discuss immigration.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we're back, James. I see the amount of

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<v Speaker 2>text you have. This is a very long section jail

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<v Speaker 2>of text.

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<v Speaker 4>I assume this is all good news. So let's uh,

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<v Speaker 4>let's hear it all right, Garyson, I'm so glad that

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<v Speaker 4>you have seen my wall of text because I have

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<v Speaker 4>been looking at court documents for days. So much fun

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<v Speaker 4>on pacer.

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<v Speaker 2>You have been pacer posting in the group chats.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, yeah, I have been court listener as well. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>so this is one of the more insane things I've

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<v Speaker 4>seen on pacer. In a minute. I'm talking about the

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<v Speaker 4>case here of mister NM, who was identified at some

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<v Speaker 4>point and we'll get an m NM. Yeah, it's not

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<v Speaker 4>uncommon for migranty in these kind of high profile cases

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<v Speaker 4>to be anonymised where they can right just for their safety.

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<v Speaker 4>So NM received a final removal order in Nebraska in

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty three, and on the seventh of May, DHS

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<v Speaker 4>attempted to apport an m to Libya. You'll remember that

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<v Speaker 4>we covered that week's ed right, they did not manage

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<v Speaker 4>to do that. And in this court case, we've seen

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<v Speaker 4>from another detainee that one of these detainees was given

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<v Speaker 4>a document to sign and told that he would quote

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<v Speaker 4>be a free man in Libya after signing. Obviously unclear

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<v Speaker 4>how one can be a free man when one is

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<v Speaker 4>just dumped into a country when one does speak the language,

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<v Speaker 4>has no contact, there is a war.

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<v Speaker 3>Doesn't make sense in any way.

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<v Speaker 4>This man is not from Libya, that's correct. None of

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<v Speaker 4>these people are Libyan.

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<v Speaker 5>And again, whenever seven someone says the the word Libya,

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<v Speaker 5>you have to figure out which Libyan government you are

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<v Speaker 5>talking about, because there are multiple of them, because there

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<v Speaker 5>is a fucking civil war going on there right now.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, and whenever someone talks about people being free

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<v Speaker 4>in Libya, we should bear in mind that migrants are

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<v Speaker 4>literally sold into slavery in Libya by both governments. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>M's English is limited. His main language is Karene, which

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<v Speaker 4>of course is a language that people speak in Cartule,

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<v Speaker 4>the Karen home land, which is part of Miaanmar. On

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<v Speaker 4>the nineteenth of this month, that's two days ago, I

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<v Speaker 4>sent a notification to his lawyer saying that they'd read

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<v Speaker 4>him a notice of removal in English that they were

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<v Speaker 4>removing him to South Africa. Ten minutes later, they attempted

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<v Speaker 4>to recall this message, and then later that same day

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<v Speaker 4>they notified his lawyer that they'd once again read notice

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<v Speaker 4>of removal to him in English, that he was being

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<v Speaker 4>removed to South Sudan. South Sudan the world's youngest country,

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<v Speaker 4>if we're not familiar, a country that is in which

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<v Speaker 4>conflict is escalating as we speak, governments carrying out a

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<v Speaker 4>barrel bombing campaign this very week. His councils set up

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<v Speaker 4>a video meeting at nine am on the twentieth, but

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<v Speaker 4>just before that meeting, his council found out that he

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<v Speaker 4>had already been removed. Mister M had refused to sign

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<v Speaker 4>the order of removal to South Sudan and we're seeing

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<v Speaker 4>right now in a court case. It's a class action.

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<v Speaker 4>Mister NM is one of the members of the class.

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<v Speaker 4>Right that there was a preliminary injunction against these people

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<v Speaker 4>being removed because they are the same people who the

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<v Speaker 4>Trump administration previously tried to remove to Libya, and at

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<v Speaker 4>this point they tried to remove them to South Sudane.

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<v Speaker 4>Before they are sent to these places, they're supposed to

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<v Speaker 4>have a reasonable fear screening right. That is where someone

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<v Speaker 4>can articulate if they have a reasonable fear of being

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<v Speaker 4>removed to that country, right like if they will be

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<v Speaker 4>persecuted there, they're likely to face torture or violence, or

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<v Speaker 4>or be picked on because of who they are. Right

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<v Speaker 4>then they're supposed to have a fifteen day opportunity to

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<v Speaker 4>submit a motion to reopen if the Department of Home

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<v Speaker 4>out Security finds that they don't have reasonable fear.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>So they're supposed to be this process where they can

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<v Speaker 4>say I have a reasonable fear of going there, if

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<v Speaker 4>I go there or be persecuted, and if the AHPs says,

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<v Speaker 4>nobody don't believe you, then they have fifteen days to

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<v Speaker 4>submit Okay, more evidence.

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<v Speaker 1>Right are they being allowed to do that or no.

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<v Speaker 4>No, got it. That is what this case hinges on. Right.

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<v Speaker 4>So they were informed, possibly hours before they were moved

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<v Speaker 4>to South Sudan that they were being moved to South Sudan.

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<v Speaker 4>Then they were taken to a secure facility where they

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<v Speaker 4>couldn't contact their lawyers. And in at least the case

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<v Speaker 4>of mister NM, he had scheduled an appointment with his

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<v Speaker 4>lawyer and was deported before he could do so. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>And this is seven a few times before as well. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>that's correct in the past few months, that's right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and specifically, there was a primary injunction against this right. So,

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<v Speaker 4>quoting from Judge Murphy, who is judging the Massachusetts District

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<v Speaker 4>Court where this is being held, the government's actions are

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<v Speaker 4>unquestionably violative of this court order. The government said they

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<v Speaker 4>have complied with my order because they didn't hear anyone

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<v Speaker 4>yelling at their jailers that they are afraid to go

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<v Speaker 4>to South Sudan. This is clearly insufficient. Yeah, So what

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<v Speaker 4>he's articulating here is like this chance to articulate reasonable fear. Right.

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<v Speaker 4>I do want to point out that in Biden's asylum

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<v Speaker 4>ban that he passed in twenty twenty four, they move

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<v Speaker 4>from a question of are you afraid to go back

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<v Speaker 4>to your home country to what's called a shout test,

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<v Speaker 4>where the migrant has to articulate that reasonable fear unprompted

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<v Speaker 4>right to have a chance at asylum in the United States.

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<v Speaker 4>So this again, like all these immigration things, I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>saying things what the same under Biden by I'm saying

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<v Speaker 4>that there is a pathway to how we got here,

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<v Speaker 4>and it goes through Biden's executive boarder.

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<v Speaker 2>And like Miller is very willing to use anything in

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<v Speaker 2>his toolbox.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah, and anything that look for decades,

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<v Speaker 4>castro or liberalism has built a series of tools which

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<v Speaker 4>now lie in the hands of a very illiberal government

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<v Speaker 4>right and they are being used against people for whom

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<v Speaker 4>those who supported castor or liberalism may have some sympathy.

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<v Speaker 4>That is how we got here. That's a good way

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<v Speaker 4>of putting in. So the situation we are at right

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<v Speaker 4>now is that these people were flown seemingly in a

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<v Speaker 4>Gulf Stream jet. Gillian Brockell, who's a formula Washington Post

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<v Speaker 4>reporter who were going to have on the show next week,

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<v Speaker 4>was able to identify this jet based on where it

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<v Speaker 4>took off and its call sign it's stopped in Shannon

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<v Speaker 4>in Ireland. Notably, Shannon is an Irish civilian airport, right,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not a US air Force base. This does raise

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<v Speaker 4>some questions within Ireland, within Irish politics about Irish neutrality here. Right.

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<v Speaker 4>The jet then flew onto Djibouti, which it is believed

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<v Speaker 4>is where the migrants are. Right now, in court the

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<v Speaker 4>discussion probably half an hour before we recorded this, DHS

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<v Speaker 4>is claiming that they can do their credible fear interviews

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<v Speaker 4>there on the tarmac in this plane, which people are

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<v Speaker 4>saying is in Jobouty. Right, there's some suspicion that it's

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<v Speaker 4>in Jobouty. DHS is claiming that the location of the

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<v Speaker 4>plane is classified, but this widespread belief that this plane

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<v Speaker 4>is currently in Djibouoty, including as I say, Julian was

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<v Speaker 4>first and hy T published something that didn't credit her.

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<v Speaker 4>Should have credited her. So to do the credible fear

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<v Speaker 4>into you, right, they have to have a chance to

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<v Speaker 4>research what will happen to them in South Shoda, They

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<v Speaker 4>have to have access to a lawyer. Most of these

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<v Speaker 4>people like mister NM will also have to have a translator.

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<v Speaker 4>Right then, they will also have to have privacy, right,

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<v Speaker 4>their credible fear may be something they don't want to

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<v Speaker 4>share with everyone else on that plane because that could

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<v Speaker 4>also put them in danger.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, also, just like that's a baffling place to suggest

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<v Speaker 1>somebody have that intimate or private of a conversation. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just such a violation of their human rights.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, many human rights being violated here. So yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>the US has a big base in Jibouti, right, so

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<v Speaker 4>I imagine that's why they're there. Remember that they have

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<v Speaker 4>that fifteen day period, So if DHS finds that they

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<v Speaker 4>don't have credible fear, then they will have fifteen days

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<v Speaker 4>right to bring another to reopen that. Where will they

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<v Speaker 4>be housed? Somewhere in fucking drabooty presumably if that's where

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<v Speaker 4>they are, right. There are many many unanswered questions at

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<v Speaker 4>this point. Now, last night we learned that one of

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<v Speaker 4>the Burmese people, it appears that there are two Burmese people.

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<v Speaker 4>We know this because the Department of Homeland Security today

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<v Speaker 4>started tweeting mugshots of these people Jesus yeah and uh wow, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>claiming that they were convicted of various crimes. Among them

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<v Speaker 4>were two Burmese men and m appears to be Nio

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<v Speaker 4>Miant and the other appears to be Cure Mea. Both

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<v Speaker 4>of these men have been accused of various a big convicted,

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<v Speaker 4>I believe of sex crimes, and that's where they got

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<v Speaker 4>their removal orders. Other people among the dozen or so

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<v Speaker 4>people on the plane have been convicted of some of

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<v Speaker 4>them like one of them is South Sudanese and he

0:23:53.240 --> 0:23:56.240
<v Speaker 4>was convicted of removing the serial number from a firearm

0:23:56.240 --> 0:24:01.320
<v Speaker 4>and of armed robbery, others, murder, and and various other

0:24:01.720 --> 0:24:05.000
<v Speaker 4>fairly serious crimes. Right, none of that means that you

0:24:05.040 --> 0:24:07.320
<v Speaker 4>should just get dumped in South Sudan, right that it's

0:24:07.359 --> 0:24:10.399
<v Speaker 4>not a punishment in US law. It is not a

0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:12.800
<v Speaker 4>morally or legally acceptable thing to do.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just truly baffling, honestly. Like that, that's what they're doing.

0:24:17.840 --> 0:24:18.600
<v Speaker 2>That's the move.

0:24:19.480 --> 0:24:21.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the move is to send themselves Sudan where It's

0:24:21.920 --> 0:24:24.399
<v Speaker 4>worth noting that South Sudan's government have said it will

0:24:24.440 --> 0:24:26.880
<v Speaker 4>probably send these people back to their home countries. Sure,

0:24:27.359 --> 0:24:29.560
<v Speaker 4>evidently the reason they are not being sent there is

0:24:29.600 --> 0:24:32.600
<v Speaker 4>because they have articulated a fear of going there, or

0:24:32.640 --> 0:24:36.199
<v Speaker 4>they have protection. It's called withholding of removal right, so

0:24:36.240 --> 0:24:40.119
<v Speaker 4>they can't be removed to that country and basically that

0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:44.280
<v Speaker 4>is where at evidents they manage to remove. Apparently somebody

0:24:44.280 --> 0:24:48.240
<v Speaker 4>to Burma today or late last night. I'm still waiting

0:24:48.400 --> 0:24:52.320
<v Speaker 4>on my sources in me and mart to confirm that

0:24:52.440 --> 0:24:55.800
<v Speaker 4>they the Burmese hunter is as leaky as a sieve. Right,

0:24:55.840 --> 0:24:57.400
<v Speaker 4>If those people are land that we will know about

0:24:57.400 --> 0:25:00.679
<v Speaker 4>it pretty soon. We have pretty good sources in Burma,

0:25:00.840 --> 0:25:04.080
<v Speaker 4>so if that happens, we will know. They also discussed

0:25:04.080 --> 0:25:07.680
<v Speaker 4>another party, right, someone who goes by OCG, a gay

0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:11.600
<v Speaker 4>guatemrlon man who asserted credible fear of being returned while

0:25:11.640 --> 0:25:15.280
<v Speaker 4>in immigration court. He was deported to Mexico, where he

0:25:15.359 --> 0:25:18.280
<v Speaker 4>also asserted credible fear. Mexico gave him a choice of

0:25:18.560 --> 0:25:21.320
<v Speaker 4>remaining Mexico going to Guatemala. He went to Guatemala where

0:25:21.320 --> 0:25:24.800
<v Speaker 4>he is now in hiding. The DHS claimed he said

0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:27.920
<v Speaker 4>he didn't have credible fear, and then later reverse that

0:25:28.000 --> 0:25:31.000
<v Speaker 4>and said they didn't ask. So the judge is now

0:25:31.040 --> 0:25:33.160
<v Speaker 4>asking how on earth they got this conclusion he didn't

0:25:33.200 --> 0:25:35.879
<v Speaker 4>have credible fear and deported him. He's saying he might

0:25:35.920 --> 0:25:38.760
<v Speaker 4>potentially put DHS officers on the stand to explain how

0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:44.679
<v Speaker 4>this happened. In other immigration news, Ice just today this

0:25:44.760 --> 0:25:48.800
<v Speaker 4>is Wednesday has apparently been dismissing court cases against people

0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:51.840
<v Speaker 4>who turn up for hearing an immigration court and then

0:25:51.880 --> 0:25:55.040
<v Speaker 4>immediately arresting them. What the fuck right there.

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<v Speaker 3>In Jesus fucking Cross.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Like, it's a little unclear what the movie here,

0:26:00.359 --> 0:26:02.200
<v Speaker 4>but clearly they're trying to remove them in a more

0:26:02.200 --> 0:26:04.960
<v Speaker 4>expeditious way. Right, they have a court case, try to

0:26:04.960 --> 0:26:06.639
<v Speaker 4>remove this person, they're saying.

0:26:06.560 --> 0:26:08.480
<v Speaker 2>Because the court case has, like you know, a certain

0:26:08.480 --> 0:26:10.240
<v Speaker 2>amount of time needs to process. If they dismiss the

0:26:10.280 --> 0:26:11.400
<v Speaker 2>court case, then.

0:26:11.280 --> 0:26:13.760
<v Speaker 4>They may have a right to appeal and yeah, but.

0:26:13.720 --> 0:26:16.600
<v Speaker 2>If it's dismissed, then they can expedite other like non

0:26:16.720 --> 0:26:17.880
<v Speaker 2>judicial removal.

0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:20.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well they can do what they're doing here. Yeah,

0:26:20.680 --> 0:26:23.000
<v Speaker 4>they can try and get and run people out before

0:26:23.040 --> 0:26:24.840
<v Speaker 4>they have a chance to get to their lawyer. Right.

0:26:24.920 --> 0:26:27.080
<v Speaker 4>Like that seems to be the underlying team of all

0:26:27.119 --> 0:26:29.159
<v Speaker 4>of these things, which is that your due process and

0:26:29.160 --> 0:26:32.000
<v Speaker 4>your right under the law are two time consuming, So

0:26:32.119 --> 0:26:34.080
<v Speaker 4>we're going to try and make an run around your

0:26:34.160 --> 0:26:38.960
<v Speaker 4>rights by sending you to somewhere fucking horrific. That is

0:26:39.000 --> 0:26:43.879
<v Speaker 4>the underlying theme here. Unfortunately, this removal will likely now

0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:46.960
<v Speaker 4>affect a lot more people because a Trump administration has

0:26:47.040 --> 0:26:51.800
<v Speaker 4>removed the twenty twenty three Temporary Protected Status of Thenezualan People.

0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:56.040
<v Speaker 4>We talked about TPSS in my Darian series. The TPS

0:26:56.080 --> 0:26:59.359
<v Speaker 4>provides protection from deportation to people who are already present

0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:02.639
<v Speaker 4>in the US when it passes. Generally, it's if a

0:27:02.680 --> 0:27:05.720
<v Speaker 4>country has experienced war or other like instability that makes

0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:09.040
<v Speaker 4>it dangerous. You have to apply for the TPS. They

0:27:09.040 --> 0:27:11.600
<v Speaker 4>don't provide a pathway to permanence or citizenship, but they

0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:14.320
<v Speaker 4>do give people work authorization and they often have to

0:27:14.320 --> 0:27:17.879
<v Speaker 4>be frequently renewed by the Executive branch. You have to

0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:20.280
<v Speaker 4>be in the US the day it's issued, so you

0:27:20.320 --> 0:27:22.960
<v Speaker 4>can't enter after. Despite what you might have seen on

0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:26.760
<v Speaker 4>Twitter or whatever, that's not the case right. It also

0:27:26.840 --> 0:27:29.159
<v Speaker 4>doesn't count as a legal entry, so you can't use

0:27:29.320 --> 0:27:32.640
<v Speaker 4>the bridge to a green card. Trump stripped this protection

0:27:32.720 --> 0:27:35.560
<v Speaker 4>from about three hundred and fifty thousand Venezuelans under the

0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:39.520
<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty three TPS. This does not impact There are

0:27:39.520 --> 0:27:42.119
<v Speaker 4>two different tps's for Venezuelan people. They're in a bit

0:27:42.119 --> 0:27:45.320
<v Speaker 4>of a unique situation. The quarter of a million people

0:27:45.320 --> 0:27:48.679
<v Speaker 4>covered by the twenty twenty one TPS are still for

0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:51.480
<v Speaker 4>now covered by that, but it doesn't exactly bode well

0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:55.240
<v Speaker 4>for them. Right. This appears to be the largest blanket

0:27:55.280 --> 0:27:57.200
<v Speaker 4>removal of legal status from a group of people in

0:27:57.200 --> 0:28:00.480
<v Speaker 4>the United States history. And it's a little clear what

0:28:00.560 --> 0:28:04.040
<v Speaker 4>this means for the three hundred and fifty thousand Venezuelan

0:28:04.080 --> 0:28:08.199
<v Speaker 4>people currently residing in the US under TPS. Right, but

0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:12.560
<v Speaker 4>it's another case of like, by their compliance, isolutorly probably

0:28:12.640 --> 0:28:15.800
<v Speaker 4>knows where they live. So these people, it's possible that

0:28:15.840 --> 0:28:20.320
<v Speaker 4>we will see deportations of these people back to Venezuela. Again,

0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:22.480
<v Speaker 4>the situation in Venezuela is dire.

0:28:22.640 --> 0:28:25.080
<v Speaker 3>It's a place where just so many people too.

0:28:25.640 --> 0:28:28.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And like I think again, if people haven't listened

0:28:28.560 --> 0:28:30.520
<v Speaker 4>to my Darien series, I would like that because I've

0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:32.919
<v Speaker 4>got a lot of myself into it. But I have

0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:35.640
<v Speaker 4>a great affection for Venezuelan migrants. I've spent a lot

0:28:35.640 --> 0:28:38.440
<v Speaker 4>of time in Caracas when I was younger, and I've

0:28:38.480 --> 0:28:40.400
<v Speaker 4>spent a lot of time with them in the Darien

0:28:40.480 --> 0:28:42.600
<v Speaker 4>Gap and then when they arrive in the United States,

0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:46.640
<v Speaker 4>and yeah, it's really fucking heartbreaking to hear. Like, when

0:28:46.680 --> 0:28:48.800
<v Speaker 4>you think of three hundred and fifty thousand people, understand

0:28:48.840 --> 0:28:52.760
<v Speaker 4>that a good number of those people will be little children, right,

0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:56.360
<v Speaker 4>people who never had any agency, People whose parents risked

0:28:56.520 --> 0:28:58.760
<v Speaker 4>their lives to give their kids a chance at a

0:28:58.760 --> 0:29:01.920
<v Speaker 4>better future, and that's been ripped away from them right

0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:04.040
<v Speaker 4>now with the consent of the Supreme Court.

0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:07.720
<v Speaker 5>Like, if you're removing three hundred, like dred thousand people

0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:10.400
<v Speaker 5>from our country, that's just straight up and ethnic cleansing, Like,

0:29:10.600 --> 0:29:11.479
<v Speaker 5>that's what that is.

0:29:11.840 --> 0:29:13.960
<v Speaker 4>It's about a third of the Venezuelans living in the

0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:16.959
<v Speaker 4>United States right now, right, Like, it's it's way more

0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:24.959
<v Speaker 4>than decimating. Yeah, obviously we will see what legal recourses

0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:27.920
<v Speaker 4>people have. We'll see how this goes down. But obviously

0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:31.960
<v Speaker 4>very concerning for these people whose country is falling apart

0:29:32.040 --> 0:29:36.000
<v Speaker 4>and being returned there will be terrible for them, right, Like,

0:29:36.080 --> 0:29:38.760
<v Speaker 4>not only will they likely have none of their savings,

0:29:38.800 --> 0:29:41.640
<v Speaker 4>all of the resources they poured into getting here, but

0:29:42.160 --> 0:29:45.320
<v Speaker 4>they're also likely to face political persecution. So yeah, that's

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:48.840
<v Speaker 4>all the exciting and uplifting news I have from the

0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:52.440
<v Speaker 4>immigration side of things. He everyone, it's James with a

0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:56.400
<v Speaker 4>pickup today Me and man Now is reporting that the

0:29:56.520 --> 0:30:02.080
<v Speaker 4>United States has deported twenty people since April. To Me

0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:05.960
<v Speaker 4>and Maar. Most of those people, seven of them have

0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:11.200
<v Speaker 4>been released. The remainder of those people are being held

0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 4>by Burmese military intelligence in a prison that is notorious

0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:22.160
<v Speaker 4>for torture, sexual violence, and the general inhumane treatment of

0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:25.320
<v Speaker 4>incarcerated people that we've become very familiar with in our

0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:29.200
<v Speaker 4>writing about Me andma We don't know who these people

0:30:29.240 --> 0:30:31.960
<v Speaker 4>are yet. Obviously, there's a story that I'm looking into

0:30:32.080 --> 0:30:33.960
<v Speaker 4>and I will continue to get back to you on.

0:30:34.080 --> 0:30:37.240
<v Speaker 4>But it seems like somehow we have not been aware

0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:40.560
<v Speaker 4>of this until now, but dozens of people have been deported.

0:30:40.600 --> 0:30:43.520
<v Speaker 4>They're saying that twenty seven people in total are expected

0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:46.400
<v Speaker 4>to be deported, and twenty already have. So obviously this

0:30:46.440 --> 0:30:49.560
<v Speaker 4>is very disturbing news and something we'll keep reporting on. Well.

0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:53.200
<v Speaker 2>Thanksgiving us updated on that, James. We're going to go

0:30:53.440 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 2>on break in return to talk about the FBI, Palestine,

0:30:57.560 --> 0:31:15.320
<v Speaker 2>and some exciting new reality TV. I'm sad, okay, we

0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:18.680
<v Speaker 2>are back. First, I want to do some quick updates

0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:21.960
<v Speaker 2>about the FBI. A cash Battel has announced that he's

0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:25.640
<v Speaker 2>shutting down the FBI's DC headquarters in dj Edgar Hoover Building.

0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:29.320
<v Speaker 2>Around fifteen hundred agents will be transferred around the country.

0:31:29.760 --> 0:31:33.440
<v Speaker 2>And in this same interview, Cash Hotel and Dan Bongino

0:31:33.960 --> 0:31:38.000
<v Speaker 2>went on TV to say that Jeffrey Epstein died by

0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:42.080
<v Speaker 2>suicide and of course Mega yax very normal to this.

0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:46.440
<v Speaker 4>What do they have on this deepstick's gone to them?

0:31:47.320 --> 0:31:50.480
<v Speaker 7>You said, Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide.

0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:52.440
<v Speaker 4>People don't believe it.

0:31:52.560 --> 0:31:56.520
<v Speaker 7>Well, I mean, listen, they have a right to their opinion.

0:31:56.560 --> 0:31:59.240
<v Speaker 7>But as someone who has worked as a public defender,

0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:01.520
<v Speaker 7>as a prosecutor, who's been in that prison system, who's

0:32:01.520 --> 0:32:04.760
<v Speaker 7>been in the Metropolitan Detention Center, who's been in segregated housing,

0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:07.960
<v Speaker 7>you know a suicide when you see one, and that's.

0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:08.320
<v Speaker 5>What that was.

0:32:09.480 --> 0:32:10.320
<v Speaker 4>They killed himself.

0:32:11.480 --> 0:32:14.200
<v Speaker 5>Again, you want me to get I've seen the whole file.

0:32:14.400 --> 0:32:15.200
<v Speaker 5>He killed himself.

0:32:15.720 --> 0:32:18.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm upset because I forgot that Dan Bongina was a person.

0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:22.200
<v Speaker 2>Yea, let me too, Oh, I have not forgotten. This

0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:27.680
<v Speaker 2>is my beat. I so yes, of course Mega is

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:33.560
<v Speaker 2>acting very normal about the affirmation that Epstein killed himself.

0:32:33.840 --> 0:32:34.200
<v Speaker 5>Quote.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, now I'm losing confidence in them both. This is

0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:41.120
<v Speaker 2>not good at all cool.

0:32:41.240 --> 0:32:43.520
<v Speaker 3>Let me read one, Let me read one. Let's do this.

0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:44.080
<v Speaker 3>This is fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Sad to see Cash and Bengino have been compromised.

0:32:50.080 --> 0:32:53.320
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, your turn, Dan, blink twice if they threatened you

0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:54.040
<v Speaker 5>or your family.

0:32:55.920 --> 0:32:57.000
<v Speaker 4>Now I got to do what right?

0:32:57.200 --> 0:32:57.400
<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

0:32:57.520 --> 0:33:01.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, deep state traitor d Ei.

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:03.000
<v Speaker 2>Higher Oh classic class.

0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 4>There it is, there, it is. I knew it was

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 4>coming as much as he likes to wear his CU

0:33:08.280 --> 0:33:08.880
<v Speaker 4>hunting gear.

0:33:09.120 --> 0:33:13.040
<v Speaker 2>But no, there's there's thousands, thousands of comments from these

0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:16.680
<v Speaker 2>like like mega Q people who feel feel the trade,

0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:20.080
<v Speaker 2>that people like Patel and Bengino have spent years doing

0:33:20.120 --> 0:33:24.720
<v Speaker 2>content creation talking about this grand Epstein conspiracy that now

0:33:24.840 --> 0:33:28.040
<v Speaker 2>now they claim isn't real or they are in fact

0:33:28.200 --> 0:33:32.480
<v Speaker 2>covering up the real conspiracy that that Donald Donald Trump's

0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:37.280
<v Speaker 2>friends with Jeffrey Epstein's. So yeah. There's also an interview

0:33:37.320 --> 0:33:39.760
<v Speaker 2>clip where where Trump I was asked if he was

0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:41.440
<v Speaker 2>going to release the whole file, and at first he

0:33:41.440 --> 0:33:43.920
<v Speaker 2>said yes, and then he caught himself and was like, well,

0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:46.600
<v Speaker 2>actually no, we'll probably be we'll probably be careful about

0:33:46.600 --> 0:33:50.240
<v Speaker 2>releasing the whole file because it could compromise people, Like

0:33:51.040 --> 0:33:53.480
<v Speaker 2>what kind what kind of people you're talking about their

0:33:53.600 --> 0:33:56.320
<v Speaker 2>don anyway, we have a chance.

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<v Speaker 5>Of swinging the Epstein demographic. That is our time division

0:34:00.560 --> 0:34:01.400
<v Speaker 5>to our enemies.

0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:06.040
<v Speaker 3>The next thing of the doc is I found interesting Gerson.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, this is just one piece of uplifting news. Yeah,

0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:12.000
<v Speaker 2>this is I'm just gonna read the headline from VA

0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:14.600
<v Speaker 2>because I simply can't improve on it.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's perfect.

0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:17.240
<v Speaker 5>Quote.

0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:21.040
<v Speaker 2>Suspected serial killer shouts out Trump in last words before

0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:26.200
<v Speaker 2>he's put to death, Keep making America great. Glenn Rogers

0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:28.640
<v Speaker 2>once told police he had killed about seventy people. He

0:34:28.760 --> 0:34:31.160
<v Speaker 2>was executed by lethal injection Thursday in Florida.

0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:33.360
<v Speaker 3>That's the way that I knew it would be Florida.

0:34:33.719 --> 0:34:36.680
<v Speaker 2>Literally seconds before he got the lethal injection, he said,

0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:40.759
<v Speaker 2>President Trump, keep making America great. I'm ready to go.

0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:41.800
<v Speaker 4>Last words.

0:34:42.160 --> 0:34:42.480
<v Speaker 5>Wow.

0:34:43.440 --> 0:34:45.840
<v Speaker 2>So that kind of shows you the current, like wellspring

0:34:45.880 --> 0:34:48.480
<v Speaker 2>of Trump's support right now. That's really hitting his prime

0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:50.440
<v Speaker 2>demographic of suspected serial killers.

0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:51.359
<v Speaker 4>I just have to.

0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:53.560
<v Speaker 3>Say that had big Florida energy.

0:34:54.880 --> 0:34:55.319
<v Speaker 4>For real.

0:34:55.719 --> 0:34:58.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's time to hear the lucid lullaby

0:34:58.680 --> 0:34:59.560
<v Speaker 2>of tariff talk.

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<v Speaker 6>jazz bob locking jazz Bob.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, all right, before everything gets so so like

0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:21.600
<v Speaker 5>I do the most depressing segment I've maybe ever done on.

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:24.120
<v Speaker 4>Here, tariffs that can't be true.

0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:26.600
<v Speaker 5>No, not the teriff, but the next one I genuinely

0:35:26.640 --> 0:35:28.479
<v Speaker 5>think is the most impressing secon I've ever done on here,

0:35:28.560 --> 0:35:31.640
<v Speaker 5>but the tariffs. So our negotiations with China that we're

0:35:31.640 --> 0:35:33.759
<v Speaker 5>supposed to like solve all of the tariff problems are

0:35:33.760 --> 0:35:36.359
<v Speaker 5>already breaking down. Both sides are like sniping at each other.

0:35:36.960 --> 0:35:39.600
<v Speaker 5>This is not gonna work. It structurally cannot work. That

0:35:39.640 --> 0:35:43.319
<v Speaker 5>the US's demands the negotiating table, which is again the

0:35:43.320 --> 0:35:45.440
<v Speaker 5>political we're economic rationale behind this, is that the US

0:35:45.480 --> 0:35:48.720
<v Speaker 5>should not have a trade deficit with China that can't

0:35:48.960 --> 0:35:51.960
<v Speaker 5>be solved, and it's already breaking down. The talks are

0:35:51.960 --> 0:35:54.040
<v Speaker 5>going almost certainly going to fail, and we're going to

0:35:54.080 --> 0:35:56.480
<v Speaker 5>be right back to where we were. It's also worth

0:35:56.680 --> 0:36:00.680
<v Speaker 5>talking about a bunch of companies have been doing ice raises,

0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:04.560
<v Speaker 5>and I think it's worth going back a little bit

0:36:04.640 --> 0:36:06.480
<v Speaker 5>to some of the some of the economic work we've

0:36:06.480 --> 0:36:08.200
<v Speaker 5>done in this show with the people as Strange Manners

0:36:08.239 --> 0:36:11.080
<v Speaker 5>and talking about in our previous episodes about inflation about

0:36:11.080 --> 0:36:14.880
<v Speaker 5>how price works, because this is really really badly understood

0:36:15.280 --> 0:36:17.520
<v Speaker 5>by just about everyone, which is that the way that

0:36:17.520 --> 0:36:21.600
<v Speaker 5>people think about tend to think about price is as like, okay,

0:36:21.640 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 5>it's supply and demand. There's two axes they meet in

0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:26.239
<v Speaker 5>a graph. That's not how price is set. Price is

0:36:26.280 --> 0:36:30.000
<v Speaker 5>set by like specific people in supply chains, right, Like,

0:36:30.120 --> 0:36:32.359
<v Speaker 5>they're constrained by certain factors. And one of the biggest things,

0:36:32.760 --> 0:36:34.359
<v Speaker 5>and one of the things, the biggest things they're constrained about,

0:36:34.360 --> 0:36:36.120
<v Speaker 5>is that if you raise prices, people get pissed at you.

0:36:36.719 --> 0:36:39.000
<v Speaker 5>But the way that they actually do pricing strategies is

0:36:39.040 --> 0:36:42.400
<v Speaker 5>cost plus markup. Right, There's a cost of the physical

0:36:42.400 --> 0:36:43.920
<v Speaker 5>good and then they do a markup and the markup

0:36:43.960 --> 0:36:47.439
<v Speaker 5>is a profit margin. And the thing about tariffs, right,

0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:50.440
<v Speaker 5>is that the way the tariffs affect supply chains is

0:36:50.440 --> 0:36:52.720
<v Speaker 5>that each part of the supply chain now that's moving,

0:36:52.840 --> 0:36:55.600
<v Speaker 5>that's importing stuff, right, each part of those things now

0:36:55.600 --> 0:36:57.480
<v Speaker 5>has an additional cost that they have to have to

0:36:57.520 --> 0:37:00.279
<v Speaker 5>put into their costless markup.

0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:00.160
<v Speaker 6>You.

0:37:00.560 --> 0:37:02.920
<v Speaker 5>Now, Trump wants all these companies to just fucking eat

0:37:02.920 --> 0:37:04.799
<v Speaker 5>shit and eat eat the price of the tariffs. He's

0:37:04.800 --> 0:37:07.520
<v Speaker 5>been tweeting about this or posting a I think on

0:37:07.520 --> 0:37:09.520
<v Speaker 5>truth social and possibly also on Twitter.

0:37:09.920 --> 0:37:13.680
<v Speaker 2>Truth Again, all of his truths have been re reposted

0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:14.280
<v Speaker 2>on exos.

0:37:14.320 --> 0:37:16.680
<v Speaker 4>Now, yeah, retruthed.

0:37:17.480 --> 0:37:20.640
<v Speaker 5>But the thing is right and in theory, right, like

0:37:20.760 --> 0:37:23.640
<v Speaker 5>Walmart could just like take this right in theory, like

0:37:23.719 --> 0:37:25.120
<v Speaker 5>like you know, like they're really some of the really

0:37:25.120 --> 0:37:27.880
<v Speaker 5>really big companies could in theory do this. They won't,

0:37:28.560 --> 0:37:30.080
<v Speaker 5>like they a lot of any other. Thing is like

0:37:30.120 --> 0:37:32.120
<v Speaker 5>these companies have an incentive not to raise prices because

0:37:32.160 --> 0:37:35.200
<v Speaker 5>it pisses consumers off. And also because Trump is just

0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:39.320
<v Speaker 5>direct like directly threatening sanctions on companies that raise prices.

0:37:39.360 --> 0:37:41.560
<v Speaker 5>Mattel for the people who make Barbie, said that they

0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:43.200
<v Speaker 5>were going to raise prices on toys and Trump is

0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:45.719
<v Speaker 5>now threatening them with one hundred per sanctions or one

0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:46.320
<v Speaker 5>hundred percent.

0:37:46.200 --> 0:37:48.640
<v Speaker 4>Tariffs only three dolls.

0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:54.400
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so that's you know, the government limited dolls, completely

0:37:54.440 --> 0:37:57.759
<v Speaker 5>hindish situation. We've gotten here. We're gonna have doll quotas. Uh.

0:37:58.200 --> 0:38:00.600
<v Speaker 5>But you know again again it's it's worth men right

0:38:00.680 --> 0:38:03.600
<v Speaker 5>that like in theory, for a little bit of time,

0:38:03.800 --> 0:38:05.680
<v Speaker 5>some of these companies can sort of eat this or

0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:07.560
<v Speaker 5>they can fuck with their supply chains and the company

0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:11.080
<v Speaker 5>has been publicly talking about this. The problem is the suppliers,

0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:15.440
<v Speaker 5>because the distributors tend to have pretty high margins, right,

0:38:15.520 --> 0:38:17.960
<v Speaker 5>like your Walgreens, like Amazon a sub except like their

0:38:17.960 --> 0:38:20.400
<v Speaker 5>margins are okay, and like Amazon makes most of us

0:38:20.440 --> 0:38:22.759
<v Speaker 5>money from government computing contracts in any ways, so it's

0:38:22.840 --> 0:38:27.600
<v Speaker 5>not as catastrophic. But the suppliers operate on very low margins.

0:38:27.640 --> 0:38:30.080
<v Speaker 5>The shipping companies, everything else along the supply chain operates

0:38:30.080 --> 0:38:33.040
<v Speaker 5>on really really low margins, right, And those people have

0:38:33.120 --> 0:38:35.759
<v Speaker 5>to raise their price because otherwise they are just going

0:38:35.800 --> 0:38:38.400
<v Speaker 5>to die. And when they raise their price right in,

0:38:38.560 --> 0:38:41.919
<v Speaker 5>that's an increase to the next company's costless markup, which

0:38:41.920 --> 0:38:44.440
<v Speaker 5>increases the next company's costless market, which decreases the next companies.

0:38:44.719 --> 0:38:46.799
<v Speaker 5>And we're starting to see this ripple to the supply chain.

0:38:46.840 --> 0:38:48.680
<v Speaker 5>Things are disappearing from grocery stores. They're going to continue

0:38:48.680 --> 0:38:51.680
<v Speaker 5>disappearing from grocery stores. And as as this goes on,

0:38:51.840 --> 0:38:54.359
<v Speaker 5>and as presumably the terrifts from China come back into

0:38:54.400 --> 0:38:57.439
<v Speaker 5>effect when these negotiations break down and the next round

0:38:57.480 --> 0:39:00.799
<v Speaker 5>of tariffs goes into effect, and deliberate day tariff's come

0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:03.040
<v Speaker 5>off their ninety day pause and go to effect. This

0:39:03.080 --> 0:39:05.560
<v Speaker 5>is all gonna get worse. This this has been tariff

0:39:05.600 --> 0:39:10.520
<v Speaker 5>talk lovely. Uh, this unfortunately was the fun part of

0:39:10.560 --> 0:39:11.080
<v Speaker 5>the episode.

0:39:12.440 --> 0:39:15.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's gonna get worse Free two one.

0:39:16.960 --> 0:39:18.800
<v Speaker 5>Okay, So when I said this might be the bleakest

0:39:18.800 --> 0:39:20.880
<v Speaker 5>segment I've ever done on this show, we need to

0:39:20.880 --> 0:39:25.279
<v Speaker 5>do an update on Palestine because things have gotten ye. Like,

0:39:25.360 --> 0:39:28.200
<v Speaker 5>when when I was kind of opening this episode, I

0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:30.440
<v Speaker 5>thought it was gonna mostly be about Trump's plan to

0:39:30.520 --> 0:39:33.120
<v Speaker 5>like deport the entire popular, like deport most of the

0:39:33.120 --> 0:39:37.080
<v Speaker 5>population of Palestine to Libya. That's not even the immediate crisis.

0:39:37.120 --> 0:39:39.680
<v Speaker 5>The immediate crisis is that, and that's this. That's not

0:39:39.680 --> 0:39:41.799
<v Speaker 5>even sure what I'm saying the immediate crisis. Last week,

0:39:41.920 --> 0:39:43.560
<v Speaker 5>I thought the crisis was going to be the eleven

0:39:43.560 --> 0:39:45.480
<v Speaker 5>week blucket of Gaza and the fact that everyone is

0:39:45.520 --> 0:39:49.600
<v Speaker 5>about to starve. Yeah, and so the actual specific thing

0:39:49.600 --> 0:39:53.120
<v Speaker 5>that we're getting to right now is Israel. It is

0:39:53.160 --> 0:39:56.600
<v Speaker 5>attempting to evacuate. That's their wording. What they're actually doing

0:39:56.640 --> 0:40:00.919
<v Speaker 5>is ethnically cleansing basically the entire population of Conunis by

0:40:01.080 --> 0:40:03.319
<v Speaker 5>just forcing everyone out of the city. Right. The United

0:40:03.400 --> 0:40:06.320
<v Speaker 5>Nations has said that Nearly one hundred thousand Palestinians have

0:40:06.360 --> 0:40:09.359
<v Speaker 5>been displaced in Gaza in the last four days as

0:40:09.480 --> 0:40:12.000
<v Speaker 5>Israel has been expanding its its ground invasion to the

0:40:12.040 --> 0:40:15.480
<v Speaker 5>Gaza strip. This has been combined with the eleven week

0:40:15.560 --> 0:40:17.520
<v Speaker 5>long blockade of Gaza. I think by the end of

0:40:17.520 --> 0:40:21.160
<v Speaker 5>this week, the week twelve, this has set off an

0:40:21.400 --> 0:40:23.520
<v Speaker 5>enormous risk of famine. I'm just going to read this

0:40:23.560 --> 0:40:27.080
<v Speaker 5>from Al Jazeira. Quote some seventy days after the Israelian

0:40:27.080 --> 0:40:30.759
<v Speaker 5>military halted the entry of food, water, medicine and all

0:40:30.800 --> 0:40:33.359
<v Speaker 5>other life saving supplies into Gaza, the report said. This

0:40:33.400 --> 0:40:36.320
<v Speaker 5>is a report from a UN a UN backset of

0:40:36.360 --> 0:40:40.360
<v Speaker 5>food security group of analysts. The report said, quote goods

0:40:40.400 --> 0:40:44.200
<v Speaker 5>indispensable for people's survivals survival are either depleted or expected

0:40:44.239 --> 0:40:47.200
<v Speaker 5>to run out in the coming weeks. Quote. The entire

0:40:47.239 --> 0:40:51.160
<v Speaker 5>population is facing high levels of acute food insecurity, with

0:40:51.400 --> 0:40:54.719
<v Speaker 5>half a million people one in five facing starvation.

0:40:54.880 --> 0:40:55.560
<v Speaker 4>It said.

0:40:55.800 --> 0:41:00.040
<v Speaker 5>Approximately ninety three percent of Gaza's population is experience and

0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:02.040
<v Speaker 5>seeing acute food shortages.

0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:02.560
<v Speaker 3>It added.

0:41:03.280 --> 0:41:05.359
<v Speaker 5>The report also said that like one in five people

0:41:05.440 --> 0:41:09.240
<v Speaker 5>could starve between now and November. People have already started

0:41:09.239 --> 0:41:12.479
<v Speaker 5>starving to death. Israel has been blocking aid from getting through.

0:41:13.120 --> 0:41:16.480
<v Speaker 5>They symbolically allowed a small number of trucks in, but

0:41:16.640 --> 0:41:19.840
<v Speaker 5>a groups on the ground, and I want to emphasize

0:41:19.840 --> 0:41:22.560
<v Speaker 5>that this reporting is coming directly from the Times of Israel.

0:41:22.760 --> 0:41:24.960
<v Speaker 5>If you want to understand how bad the situation is,

0:41:25.040 --> 0:41:28.200
<v Speaker 5>the Times of Israel is reporting that A groups from

0:41:28.239 --> 0:41:30.640
<v Speaker 5>the ground say that none of the IEA's gotten through

0:41:30.640 --> 0:41:33.839
<v Speaker 5>and none of it has been distributed. This is I

0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:38.080
<v Speaker 5>don't know how to convey how bad it is indescribable.

0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:40.880
<v Speaker 5>Numbers of people are on the verge of starving to

0:41:40.920 --> 0:41:44.600
<v Speaker 5>death in the Israelis are simply not letting any food arrive.

0:41:45.040 --> 0:41:46.920
<v Speaker 5>They keep talking about how they're gonna let food arrive

0:41:46.960 --> 0:41:49.759
<v Speaker 5>because this is actually this is the first thing I've

0:41:49.920 --> 0:41:54.239
<v Speaker 5>seen them do that's actually seriously gotten. I mean not

0:41:54.280 --> 0:41:56.640
<v Speaker 5>even seriously, but it's like gotten. A lot of their

0:41:56.680 --> 0:41:59.240
<v Speaker 5>Western allies pissed at them because they're just very obviously

0:41:59.280 --> 0:42:01.640
<v Speaker 5>trying to exterminate entire population by starving them the death.

0:42:02.400 --> 0:42:06.279
<v Speaker 5>And this has caused the UK, Canada and France to

0:42:06.360 --> 0:42:09.080
<v Speaker 5>issue a joint statement coming out against the Israeli policy

0:42:09.120 --> 0:42:11.719
<v Speaker 5>and telling them to fucking stop and let food through.

0:42:11.760 --> 0:42:15.479
<v Speaker 5>So these people don't starve. The UK is talking about

0:42:15.520 --> 0:42:18.840
<v Speaker 5>suspending free trade agreements with Israel. They're talking about like

0:42:18.880 --> 0:42:22.080
<v Speaker 5>sanctions at West Bank settlers. The whole group has threatened

0:42:22.440 --> 0:42:25.040
<v Speaker 5>that they're going to take more actions unless the Israelis

0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:28.960
<v Speaker 5>let food in. Now the Israelis, because of the Israelis

0:42:29.560 --> 0:42:32.160
<v Speaker 5>shot at a bunch of diplomats who were visiting a

0:42:32.200 --> 0:42:33.480
<v Speaker 5>refugee camp in Janine.

0:42:33.520 --> 0:42:34.680
<v Speaker 4>This was like a few days ago.

0:42:34.920 --> 0:42:37.120
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's like a few days ago. Yeah, yeah, and

0:42:37.160 --> 0:42:41.600
<v Speaker 5>so's that's not been like making anyone less angry at them.

0:42:41.719 --> 0:42:44.040
<v Speaker 5>It's genuinely remarkable to we've reached a place where like

0:42:44.800 --> 0:42:48.240
<v Speaker 5>the UK, Canada, in France, who are all major weapons

0:42:48.239 --> 0:42:52.680
<v Speaker 5>suppliers to Israel, are like talking about sanctions, like even

0:42:52.719 --> 0:42:55.040
<v Speaker 5>targeted actions, like yeah, you know, and like the UN's

0:42:55.080 --> 0:42:56.800
<v Speaker 5>like Human Rights Commission was like, well, this is bullshit.

0:42:56.840 --> 0:42:58.720
<v Speaker 5>You can't just targeted sanctions. It is the entire government

0:42:58.760 --> 0:43:00.879
<v Speaker 5>doing this. But like, you know, the fact that they're

0:43:00.880 --> 0:43:06.719
<v Speaker 5>doing something is an indicator of just how apocalyptically bad

0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:09.319
<v Speaker 5>the situation is right now. Yeah, I want to read

0:43:09.360 --> 0:43:14.320
<v Speaker 5>this quote from the Guardian from just perennial most fascist

0:43:14.360 --> 0:43:16.440
<v Speaker 5>guy in the Israeli government.

0:43:16.760 --> 0:43:17.720
<v Speaker 4>What's he's saying something?

0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:22.680
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, who's their fucking finance minister who said, quote, now

0:43:22.719 --> 0:43:26.279
<v Speaker 5>we conquer, cleanse, and stay until Hamas is destroyed. He

0:43:26.320 --> 0:43:29.000
<v Speaker 5>told a news conference along the way, what remains of

0:43:29.040 --> 0:43:33.040
<v Speaker 5>the strip is also being wiped out, cleans conquered, the

0:43:33.200 --> 0:43:36.040
<v Speaker 5>normal things. To say, the extent to which they are

0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:38.760
<v Speaker 5>simply doing a genocide here has reached a point where

0:43:39.440 --> 0:43:42.600
<v Speaker 5>even a bunch of Israel's closest allies are going, what

0:43:42.640 --> 0:43:48.359
<v Speaker 5>the fuck? I don't know. I really hope that people

0:43:48.440 --> 0:43:50.600
<v Speaker 5>are able to force their governments to actually fucking do

0:43:50.680 --> 0:43:52.960
<v Speaker 5>something about this, because if they don't, it's going to

0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:55.680
<v Speaker 5>continue to get really bad. Yeah, And I mean I

0:43:55.680 --> 0:43:59.680
<v Speaker 5>guess right now that's mostly like if you're in like

0:43:59.719 --> 0:44:02.440
<v Speaker 5>the U, Canada or France and you think you can

0:44:02.440 --> 0:44:05.239
<v Speaker 5>apply more pressure on your government, like, go for it.

0:44:05.239 --> 0:44:06.200
<v Speaker 4>Do do it?

0:44:06.440 --> 0:44:06.799
<v Speaker 8>Do that.

0:44:07.520 --> 0:44:08.919
<v Speaker 5>Like, I don't know, I don't know to what extpt

0:44:08.920 --> 0:44:11.120
<v Speaker 5>pressure can even be mounted on the Trump administration, but

0:44:11.840 --> 0:44:13.879
<v Speaker 5>it's yeah, I think that's pretty much a dead end,

0:44:14.400 --> 0:44:14.799
<v Speaker 5>right Yeah.

0:44:14.840 --> 0:44:18.439
<v Speaker 4>But like, but seeing these countries align outside of any

0:44:18.719 --> 0:44:23.600
<v Speaker 4>US influence to I potentially recognize the Palestinian state. According

0:44:23.600 --> 0:44:28.600
<v Speaker 4>to Lamonde, right, like is significant And yeah, people in

0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:31.400
<v Speaker 4>those countries should absolutely like stay in the streets.

0:44:31.440 --> 0:44:33.520
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, because like like and this is this is the

0:44:33.520 --> 0:44:35.839
<v Speaker 5>thing here, right, Like these countries the stuff that there's

0:44:35.880 --> 0:44:37.359
<v Speaker 5>right evening stuff are threatening to do is not enough

0:44:37.400 --> 0:44:39.560
<v Speaker 5>to really make a difference here. But like, if they're

0:44:39.560 --> 0:44:41.040
<v Speaker 5>willing to do this, they can be pushed further.

0:44:41.200 --> 0:44:43.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. So yeah, you have to get your foot in

0:44:43.160 --> 0:44:43.399
<v Speaker 4>the door.

0:44:43.560 --> 0:44:47.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and Carney has also seemed susceptible to this, Yeah,

0:44:48.000 --> 0:44:51.160
<v Speaker 2>as there has been a block on arm steels to

0:44:51.360 --> 0:44:53.080
<v Speaker 2>Israel for the past few months in Canada.

0:44:53.160 --> 0:44:53.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:44:53.560 --> 0:44:57.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're going to close with another story of like

0:44:58.520 --> 0:45:02.600
<v Speaker 2>anti humanity, but just a slightly different flavor. And I

0:45:02.760 --> 0:45:04.840
<v Speaker 2>know this this does the show does often just end

0:45:04.960 --> 0:45:06.759
<v Speaker 2>up feeling like a bad news round up, and that

0:45:06.880 --> 0:45:08.160
<v Speaker 2>is because there's a lot of bad news.

0:45:08.280 --> 0:45:10.440
<v Speaker 4>I have good news for the end. Actually that's a

0:45:10.440 --> 0:45:10.719
<v Speaker 4>good thing.

0:45:10.760 --> 0:45:13.120
<v Speaker 2>We'll have some good news, yeah, as a treat And

0:45:13.239 --> 0:45:14.840
<v Speaker 2>part of the good news here is that this probably

0:45:14.880 --> 0:45:17.800
<v Speaker 2>will not end up happening, but it's still useful insight

0:45:17.960 --> 0:45:22.400
<v Speaker 2>into the minds of these ghouls. And I've long advocated

0:45:22.560 --> 0:45:26.440
<v Speaker 2>that reality TV is basically inherently satanic. I think it's

0:45:26.480 --> 0:45:27.520
<v Speaker 2>a spiritual darkness.

0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:29.120
<v Speaker 5>This is offensive to Satanists.

0:45:29.440 --> 0:45:32.800
<v Speaker 2>It is a spiritual darkness that has played the United

0:45:32.880 --> 0:45:34.960
<v Speaker 2>States for far too long. I think it's ushered in

0:45:35.440 --> 0:45:40.120
<v Speaker 2>a degree of evil that is nearly unfathomable. And the

0:45:40.400 --> 0:45:45.080
<v Speaker 2>current administration is essentially a reality TV administration on a

0:45:45.400 --> 0:45:46.560
<v Speaker 2>very clear and obvious level.

0:45:47.000 --> 0:45:49.719
<v Speaker 1>Yes, but did I enjoy watching the Secret Lives of

0:45:49.800 --> 0:45:50.640
<v Speaker 1>Mormon Wives?

0:45:51.120 --> 0:45:51.319
<v Speaker 4>Yes?

0:45:51.960 --> 0:45:54.520
<v Speaker 2>I did. I think watching it stuff is actually a

0:45:54.560 --> 0:45:57.680
<v Speaker 2>personal moral failure. I think you're channeling darkness into your.

0:45:57.600 --> 0:45:58.800
<v Speaker 3>Soul and loving it.

0:45:59.280 --> 0:46:02.480
<v Speaker 2>Last week, cutiple outlets reported that the Department of Homeland

0:46:02.560 --> 0:46:06.640
<v Speaker 2>Security was considering participating in a reality TV show where

0:46:06.680 --> 0:46:12.120
<v Speaker 2>immigrants compete against each other to gain US citizenship. The

0:46:12.239 --> 0:46:16.440
<v Speaker 2>proposed series would be called The American. This nightmare has

0:46:16.480 --> 0:46:20.880
<v Speaker 2>been dreamed up by Duck Dynasty producer Rob Warsof, and

0:46:20.920 --> 0:46:23.839
<v Speaker 2>apparently he's been trying to make this since Obama's second term,

0:46:24.400 --> 0:46:27.600
<v Speaker 2>but only now has made progress on getting the necessary

0:46:27.719 --> 0:46:31.320
<v Speaker 2>backing from the DHS. After sending Trump's DHS a thirty

0:46:31.440 --> 0:46:35.680
<v Speaker 2>five page pitch, Warsof wants it to be quote unquote

0:46:36.040 --> 0:46:41.680
<v Speaker 2>the biggest loser for immigration, which, again reality TV is

0:46:41.719 --> 0:46:42.520
<v Speaker 2>inherently evil.

0:46:43.400 --> 0:46:44.640
<v Speaker 3>That's fucking insane.

0:46:45.239 --> 0:46:48.440
<v Speaker 2>It should not be tolerated on any aspect of human society. No,

0:46:49.560 --> 0:46:54.040
<v Speaker 2>The Wall Street Journal header reads, quote, this isn't the

0:46:54.200 --> 0:46:57.680
<v Speaker 2>Hunger Games for immigrants, says the producer behind the pitch.

0:46:58.400 --> 0:47:02.200
<v Speaker 2>If you have to say this isn't the Hunger Games

0:47:02.280 --> 0:47:06.040
<v Speaker 2>for immigrants, that means this is the Hunger Games for immigrants.

0:47:06.200 --> 0:47:08.880
<v Speaker 2>Getting a lot of questions about my this isn't the

0:47:09.000 --> 0:47:12.560
<v Speaker 2>Hunger Games for Immigrants shirt already answered by the shirt

0:47:13.160 --> 0:47:16.600
<v Speaker 2>to quote the Wall Street Journal quote. DHS spokeswoman Tricia

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<v Speaker 2>McLoughlin said that she had spoken to the producer of

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<v Speaker 2>the proposed television reality show and that consideration of the

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<v Speaker 2>idea was ongoing. It is quote in the very beginning

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<v Speaker 2>stages of that vetting process, she said, adding that quote

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<v Speaker 2>each proposal undergoes a thorough vetting process prior to denial

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<v Speaker 2>or approval unquote. McLoughlin was also quoted in The Daily

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<v Speaker 2>Mail as saying she thought the television show was quote

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<v Speaker 2>unquote a good idea.

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<v Speaker 5>Jesus, Jesus.

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<v Speaker 2>The pitch details that the immigrant contestants would board a

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<v Speaker 2>train called the American and ride across the country to

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<v Speaker 2>meet quote unquote interesting Americans and learn about the local

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<v Speaker 2>history and culture, while competing in regions Pacific quote unquote

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<v Speaker 2>heritage challenges to prove they are the most American. Such

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<v Speaker 2>cultural contests include balancing on logs in Wisconsin, building a

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<v Speaker 2>rocket at the Florida NASA headquarters, assembling a model t

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<v Speaker 2>Ford in Detroit, and collecting gold in a San Francisco

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<v Speaker 2>mine shaft. Prizes would be quote unquote iconically American, like

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<v Speaker 2>one million American Airlines points, a ten thousand dollars Starbucks

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<v Speaker 2>gift card, or a lifetime supply of seventy six gas.

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<v Speaker 2>Immigrants would be split into teams that compete head to

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<v Speaker 2>head across one hour episodes, ending with an elimination challenge,

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<v Speaker 2>followed by a town hall and a final vote to

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<v Speaker 2>quote the producer quote along the way, we will be

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<v Speaker 2>reminded what it means to be American through the eyes

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<v Speaker 2>of people who wanted most unquote.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like even this will will humanize migration to

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<v Speaker 4>the United States too much for them. They're like that

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<v Speaker 4>they will be afraid of that, like of these people

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<v Speaker 4>articulating the desire to be here and what it means

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<v Speaker 4>to them and I feel like that that doesn't end

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<v Speaker 4>well for the administration, that they this might.

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<v Speaker 2>Be too liberal for the Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 4>It could be too lip. I'm not even joking.

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<v Speaker 5>This is a concept just should be the death knell

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<v Speaker 5>for the idea of America. Like, oh, if America has

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<v Speaker 5>an experiment, we tried it. It failed.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the most America thing I've ever heard.

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<v Speaker 5>Like, it's over. Yeah, as an experiment, the American Project

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<v Speaker 5>was a fucking disaster, and we need to it needs

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<v Speaker 5>to stop because this is what it's done. No more,

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<v Speaker 5>no more American Project. The Hitch has pre vetted contestants.

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<v Speaker 5>First arriving at Ellis Island a board a boat called

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<v Speaker 5>the Citizenship, they are greeted by the show's host, quote,

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<v Speaker 5>a famous naturalized American who was also born in another country. Unquote,

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<v Speaker 5>the pitt recommends Sophia Verghera or Ryan Reynolds.

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<v Speaker 2>Upon arriving. The host would gift to each of them

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<v Speaker 2>a personalized baseball.

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<v Speaker 4>Glove, America's pastime.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no way Sophia Forgata or Ryan Reynolds would ever

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<v Speaker 1>fucking do a show like this.

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<v Speaker 3>That's batshit.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I fucking hope.

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<v Speaker 2>So to quote the producer's pitch. Quote will join in

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<v Speaker 2>the laughter, tears, frustration, and joy hearing their backstories as

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<v Speaker 2>we are reminded how amazing it is to be American

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<v Speaker 2>through the eyes of twelve wonderful people who want nothing

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<v Speaker 2>more than to have what we have.

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<v Speaker 4>Unquote.

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<v Speaker 2>This is this is one of the most evil things

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<v Speaker 2>I've ever I've ever heard of. Yeah, the live finale

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<v Speaker 2>would have the winner getting sworn in on the steps

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<v Speaker 2>of the US Capitol by a quote top American politician

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<v Speaker 2>or judge with F sixteen's flying overhead. Quote. There won't

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<v Speaker 2>be a dry fuck me sorry, there won't be a

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<v Speaker 2>dry eye in the house unquote.

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<v Speaker 4>There have actually been like high spectacle single individual awards

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<v Speaker 4>of citizenship before I'm thinking for example, Hermann Bodger was

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<v Speaker 4>a He's often known as like the one man Army

0:51:15.080 --> 0:51:19.319
<v Speaker 4>of boona John Botcher. He was, I believe, living as

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<v Speaker 4>an undocumented person in the United States when he joined

0:51:21.640 --> 0:51:24.720
<v Speaker 4>the Abraham Lincoln Brigade volunteered to fight in the Spanish

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<v Speaker 4>Civil War, where he was an officer. He then joined

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<v Speaker 4>the United States military and fort again in World War Two.

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<v Speaker 4>During the Battle of Boone, he personally led a charge

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<v Speaker 4>against several Japanese pillboxes, which he eliminated with grenades. He

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<v Speaker 4>then had his ear drum perforated and I believe he

0:51:44.800 --> 0:51:47.799
<v Speaker 4>was shot in the arm. He was awarded, I think

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<v Speaker 4>he wasn't ordered the Medal of Honor. He was recognized

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<v Speaker 4>for his bravery. Congress pass and act to make him

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<v Speaker 4>a citizen, and he declined to attend a ceremony because

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<v Speaker 4>he wanted to get back to the front lines. That rules. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>bit of a legend.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a little bit cooler than the live Grand finale

0:52:05.440 --> 0:52:09.799
<v Speaker 2>of the American The pitch clarified that the losers would

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<v Speaker 2>not be immediately deported and that the contestants would have

0:52:14.120 --> 0:52:17.400
<v Speaker 2>a leg up in applying for citizenship the more traditional

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<v Speaker 2>way based on being pre vetted for this show. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's good that it's good that he had to clarify

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<v Speaker 2>that they would not be immediately deported upon getting eliminated.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good sign.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, another thing that you should always have to

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<v Speaker 4>carifind a TV page.

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<v Speaker 2>At a Tuesday congressional hearing, Christinom denied having knowledge of

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<v Speaker 2>the reality TV show despite reporting to the contrary, while

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<v Speaker 2>also defining hebeas corpus in this hearing as a quote

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<v Speaker 2>constitutional right that the president has to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>remove people from this country unquote.

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<v Speaker 4>So there you go. Yeah, that's not what that means.

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<v Speaker 2>Christinome is a disaster that it's kind of the opposite

0:52:59.000 --> 0:53:02.520
<v Speaker 2>of what Abey's corpus is. And there is some central

0:53:02.560 --> 0:53:06.560
<v Speaker 2>reporting showing that DHS staff are looking at this pitch.

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<v Speaker 2>It might not go through now based on all this backlash,

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<v Speaker 2>but they were looking through the pitch, including possibly Corey Lewandowski.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that is the reality TV news. James, Do

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<v Speaker 2>you have anything anything to end on here is James? Please?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I know something, something a little bit nice. So

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<v Speaker 4>for those of you who like me, enjoy a strawberry ice.

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<v Speaker 4>Agents arrived at the West Coast Berry Farms facility in Oxnard, California,

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<v Speaker 4>earlier this month, where they were met by a gatekeeper

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<v Speaker 4>who demanded a warrant and refused to let them enter

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<v Speaker 4>the facility without one, and eventually managed to turn them away.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is a rare dub I guess clearly, as

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<v Speaker 4>we enter the time of year when things need to

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<v Speaker 4>be picked in the fields, this will be a place

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<v Speaker 4>where I sees the opportunity to conduct its enforcement operations,

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<v Speaker 4>and like it is genuinely positive to see that this company,

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<v Speaker 4>I guess, critical support to this company that obviously underpays

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<v Speaker 4>and takes advantage of migrant labor that they have provided them.

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<v Speaker 4>According to an anonymous source in sf Gate with know

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<v Speaker 4>your Rights training, and in this case, the gatekeeper was

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<v Speaker 4>able to not let the ICE agents enter and eventually

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<v Speaker 4>they left.

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<v Speaker 2>Like ICE isn't impervious. Like all week, ICE has been

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<v Speaker 2>releasing statements complaining about being compared to to the to

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<v Speaker 2>the Gestapo.

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<v Speaker 4>Well once again, right, like another thing that you shouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>have to be releasing statements about.

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<v Speaker 2>I am not the Gestapo. Shirt has people asking a

0:54:43.800 --> 0:54:47.320
<v Speaker 2>lot of questions. Yeah, and they're also publishing false stats

0:54:47.320 --> 0:54:50.800
<v Speaker 2>about ICE officers being assaulted in the line of duty.

0:54:51.080 --> 0:54:54.879
<v Speaker 2>So like obviously they're facing some kind of like fear

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<v Speaker 2>even among their own agents. That's why they're all like

0:54:56.760 --> 0:54:58.800
<v Speaker 2>covered up wherever they go. They're trying to prosecute people

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<v Speaker 2>for posting information and on ICE agents in your area.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, but like I say, they're not impervious. There

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<v Speaker 4>is a difference between a judicial warrant and a warrant

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<v Speaker 4>that ICE has essentially made itself, right, the latter not

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<v Speaker 4>being signed by a judge. And it appears that the

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<v Speaker 4>gatekeeper was aware of that. We still have courts, You still,

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<v Speaker 4>in theory have rights, and you know, well it depends,

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<v Speaker 4>but yes, yeah, yeah, theoretically that was a pivotal word.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, shout out to the gatekeepers at the Oxnard

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<v Speaker 4>Strawberry Plant.

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<v Speaker 5>And they could be stopped by a door keeper. Like,

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<v Speaker 5>they can be resisted, they can be stopped from doing things.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and like it is genuinely important that this person

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<v Speaker 4>understood the difference between a judicial warrant and these documents

0:55:42.360 --> 0:55:46.480
<v Speaker 4>that ICE might produce. And it does illustrate the value

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<v Speaker 4>of being educated and educating people in your communities about

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<v Speaker 4>these things if they might be at risk for this.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, we reported the news.

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