Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two ninety episode
Speaker 1: for Daley's Eye Guys Today production of My Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
Speaker 1: into American share consciousness. And it is Friday, Friday, June night,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2: You know what that is. It's National Earl Day. I
Speaker 2: think what Earl? Earl? The name Earl, the name of Earl.
Speaker 2: Is that all the Earls out there? Wait? Who what
Speaker 2: was DMX's real name. Wasn't DMX's real name Earl Earl?
Speaker 2: I believe? So yeah, Earl Simmons. Yeah, so that's an
Speaker 2: Earl shout out, Earl sweatshirt, you know, like all the
Speaker 2: other Earls out there. And also National Strawberry Rubarb Pie Day,
Speaker 2: National Donald Duck Day, which is not like when we
Speaker 2: were talking about our guest Hugo Bosk about just not
Speaker 2: wearing pants for the character and National Movie Night there
Speaker 2: we got didn't realize it was a movie night.
Speaker 1: And it is six ' nine, so you know, oh yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. We're saying this is a new four twenty,
Speaker 2: like we're past four twenty and we're embracing six '
Speaker 2: nine sixty nine nine because we are juvenile at the
Speaker 2: end of the day. Well, that'll be the last juvenile
Speaker 2: thing that you hear from us in this Yeah. Absolutely,
Speaker 2: my name is how's my posture?
Speaker 1: Strong?
Speaker 2: Fantastic? Good?
Speaker 1: My name is Jack O'Brien aka my milkshake brings all
Speaker 1: the boys to the pit and they're like, this is
Speaker 1: Grimace's jizz. Damn right, it's Grimace's jizz on your birthday.
Speaker 1: McDonald's is lit. That is courtesy of Scotty Magoo.
Speaker 2: Oh class personified, Keep them bad.
Speaker 1: Scotty Magoo prefaced the said I need to preface this
Speaker 1: with a sincere apology. I didn't want to do this,
Speaker 1: but Jack made us all listen to that. I'm assuming
Speaker 1: he's referring to any aka I ever sunk oh right
Speaker 1: and said, so I need to do this to close
Speaker 1: the karmac circle or something and keep the karmic circle closing.
Speaker 2: Because I appreciate them.
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co
Speaker 1: host mister Miles.
Speaker 2: Grab Miles Gray k.
Speaker 3: So my life a prateful pizza from you, and now
Speaker 3: thing God.
Speaker 2: Dad, I can show you my ding dong.
Speaker 1: Oh my love.
Speaker 4: I wanted to flash.
Speaker 1: My dick and I hope bet you feel the same way.
Speaker 2: To Okay, shout out to Jamee Music again talking about
Speaker 2: Hugo Bosk and the prevalence of pantiless people that come
Speaker 2: to the door when he delivers pizza and Casey and Jojo,
Speaker 2: I'm still looking for a cliff. I sang that song
Speaker 2: on like a Fox variety show in like the whatever.
Speaker 2: That song came out at Citywalker Universal and I was
Speaker 2: wilding in and I remember back then there was no
Speaker 2: tv ow and shit like and I remember at the
Speaker 2: last minute, like when it was airing, I don't think
Speaker 2: I was on it, but someone said I may have.
Speaker 2: Well they cut you out, they may have. I was
Speaker 2: doing a lot. I was doing a lot. It was
Speaker 2: like this too much like the History Onics, a little
Speaker 2: too much for Fox. Let's get this kid out. Wow. Yeah.
Speaker 1: We had on Tuesday's episode our first kind of evergreen
Speaker 1: off format interview episode. I've heard it referred to as
Speaker 1: the Daily Zeit Guest, that is the name of the
Speaker 1: that episode format. We interviewed an astrophysicist who's looking for
Speaker 1: intelligent extraterrestrial intelligence, and we also interviewed a Domino's delivery driver.
Speaker 1: And I feel I feel like the Domino's delivery driver
Speaker 1: broke the most news.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: Way, we are doing new publication schedule. One episode today Friday,
Speaker 1: one episode on Monday. The Monday episode sort of a
Speaker 1: long trending episode, catch you up on the stuff you
Speaker 1: missed over the weekend. Tuesday Mornings episode. We're interviewing experts.
Speaker 1: We're interviewing you guys, mainly about your jobs.
Speaker 2: So hit us up if.
Speaker 1: You have some an interesting story from your job, if
Speaker 1: you have a job that's more interesting that people realize,
Speaker 1: tell us why hit us at daily Zeitgeist on Twitter
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Speaker 2: Work wherever. Just tag us Instagram on whatever wherever.
Speaker 1: Wow, Shakita, Okay, yeah yeah, Shakida, all right, but yeah,
Speaker 1: we're looking forward to continuing to hear from and talk
Speaker 1: to you, sick, sick motherfuckers. We are thrilled Miles to
Speaker 1: be joined in our third seat. Very talented journalist, screenwriter,
Speaker 1: soon to be director. You're the creator, executive producer and
Speaker 1: host of the podcast Partition.
Speaker 2: It's nausy.
Speaker 3: Hie, I'm glad to be here.
Speaker 2: How's h town at the moment?
Speaker 1: Oh, Austin, what Miles calls?
Speaker 3: Well, I'll try to. I'll try to get it.
Speaker 2: Uh, we're keeping it all in, but I'm gonna do
Speaker 2: it again. How is a town that's pretty good?
Speaker 3: It's just getting unseasonably hot, and it's like not unseasonably
Speaker 3: unseasonably for me, but it was like eighty degrees and
Speaker 3: I was dying. So we'll see what the next three months.
Speaker 1: Out here illogically irrationally hot, a heat that no person
Speaker 1: should be expected to live in.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were.
Speaker 1: We were doing comparing weather reports. Actually, l it's pretty
Speaker 1: nice today. It's been like gray and.
Speaker 2: A bit. Yeah, but we were.
Speaker 1: We were saying that, like we're going to need to
Speaker 1: start adding it to weather reports, Like where are we
Speaker 1: on the apocalyptic scale?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 1: Are you like seven on that?
Speaker 2: What? What? What's it looking like.
Speaker 1: Outside your door? Where are we?
Speaker 3: It's looking it's looking like a two. Like some of
Speaker 3: the trees are slowly like moving in the breeze. It's
Speaker 3: getting darker.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh you got a storm coming.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got a storm coming. There was thunder earlier.
Speaker 1: In Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: We had a couple.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fun. It is so wild when you hear
Speaker 1: thunder in Los Angeles, You're like, what the folks that
Speaker 1: what is not My kids who have never heard it
Speaker 1: have questions. All right, now, how we're going to get
Speaker 1: to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
Speaker 1: we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the
Speaker 1: things we're talking about. We are going to talk about
Speaker 1: how the media is reacting to the fact that, as
Speaker 1: of yesterday, the sky in New York and much of
Speaker 1: the Eastern Seaboard was bright orange. So Fox News just
Speaker 1: kind of pulled out their old playbook and started talking
Speaker 1: about how, like telling people to wear masks in the
Speaker 1: middle of a giant smoke storm is a left wing conspiracy.
Speaker 1: They're just anti masks as a on principle. They don't
Speaker 1: fuck with masks.
Speaker 2: It was odd when they were with those firefighters and like,
Speaker 2: why do you guys even wear respirators?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Exactly what.
Speaker 1: This smells good to me? Don't you like the smell
Speaker 1: wood smoke? Even the New York Times, you know, they
Speaker 1: acknowledge that this is caused by climate change, but when
Speaker 1: it comes to like who to blame. They had an
Speaker 1: interesting story on the front page of the New York Times.
Speaker 1: It was kind of like their big story with the
Speaker 1: cool pictures and the cool like web design where you
Speaker 1: clicked on it and it was like giant glowing embers.
Speaker 1: And they put in the work and they want to
Speaker 1: blame people who start them, the people who accidentally start
Speaker 1: for as fires, and they're like they're the problem.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: So it's just interesting. I mean, that's definitely like, I'm
Speaker 1: all for fire safety, but it was just it's just
Speaker 1: interesting to see that being the main thing that they
Speaker 1: focus their energy on.
Speaker 2: Well, it's certainly not going to be their own sponsors,
Speaker 2: right exactly? Can it be the colossal fuel industry?
Speaker 4: Ah?
Speaker 2: No, No, I mean there's climate change, but let's focus
Speaker 2: on these people.
Speaker 1: But who's to blame for these fires? Who can we
Speaker 1: actually focus our anger on. Surely none of the executives
Speaker 1: of the companies that pay us to create sponsored articles
Speaker 1: for them. So we'll talk about that. We will bid
Speaker 1: a not so fond adieu to Pat Robertson, human piece
Speaker 1: of shit, garbage person who passed away, and we'll talk
Speaker 1: about the upcoming Captain America reboot No longer is it
Speaker 1: called Captain America New World Order?
Speaker 2: Oh? But yeah, yeah, good, call.
Speaker 1: All that plenty more. But first and now, how we
Speaker 1: like to ask our guests, what is something from your
Speaker 1: search history?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 3: So last week I saw a film called Saint Omer
Speaker 3: that's on Hulu and it was shortlisted for the Best
Speaker 3: International Future Academy Award from France, and it's it's just
Speaker 3: really riveting, so I feel like everyone should watch it.
Speaker 3: But it's about a journalist novelist who is going to
Speaker 3: a court case to see a woman who is accused
Speaker 3: of murdering her kids. So it's very sad, but she's
Speaker 3: like writing a book about it, and she's actually pregnant herself.
Speaker 3: And that is based on an actual case that the
Speaker 3: director witnessed that took place in France. So then I
Speaker 3: was like looking at the real case. But then it
Speaker 3: was like eleven forty five at night. Then I'm like,
Speaker 3: I don't need to look at this right now. But
Speaker 3: that was like one of those like rabbit holes that
Speaker 3: I went to the last time I was on here
Speaker 3: was like Anastasia and like Russian politicians, and like now
Speaker 3: it's this murder case from right that's not funny, but I.
Speaker 2: Left, No, I get it. No, I mean it's it
Speaker 2: is always intriguing when you watch something and it is
Speaker 2: there's any kind of real life connection because when I like,
Speaker 2: if it's half interesting, I do the same thing. Now, yeah,
Speaker 2: well what about the real actual thing? But so the
Speaker 2: story is about a pregnant journalist who's covering a case
Speaker 2: about a woman who killed her child.
Speaker 3: Yes, because she's writing a book, got it that I
Speaker 3: think or a novel that I think is like a
Speaker 3: similar So it's like a.
Speaker 1: Research And is this a journalist turned filmmaker?
Speaker 3: This is a documentarian?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So she this is her first narrative feature. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: she's made documentary for four Yeah.
Speaker 1: And you are at the beginning of that journey, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: starting to cast.
Speaker 3: A feature, a short film, maybe a feature in the.
Speaker 1: Future eventually skipped a couple steps, but award winning feature eventually.
Speaker 1: But yeah, a short film.
Speaker 2: For now yet as a short film darling of the
Speaker 2: festival circuit obviously, and then you make your way to
Speaker 2: the top.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's the dream, that's the goal.
Speaker 2: I amazing.
Speaker 1: What is something that you think is overrated?
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm going to upset a lot of people.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, So.
Speaker 3: I saw Top Gun Maverick for the first time on
Speaker 3: Memorial right, playing so good. Well, I'm about to disappoint
Speaker 3: on Memorial day because the Alamo Draft House was playing
Speaker 3: it and I missed it when it came out last year,
Speaker 3: so I was like, whatever it's playing, I'll watch it,
Speaker 3: and uh, it's a lot. I just like, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think it's just like Tom Cruise being Tom Cruise
Speaker 3: and then like Miles Teller being like an anti vaxer
Speaker 3: and then knowing these things and then watching this and
Speaker 3: then there's so much Like I've only seen Top Gun
Speaker 3: once in like a film class when I was seventeen,
Speaker 3: so I haven't seen it, and like, like he was cool.
Speaker 3: I don't remember his name, but I like.
Speaker 2: Y'all got to see Top Gun. This is serious.
Speaker 3: It was yeah, right after a Citizen Kane, right before
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: Know, right before it was in the context of like
Speaker 1: this is what American like Cold War anxiety problem, was
Speaker 1: him just being like this is a sick film.
Speaker 3: Also, again, grew up in Texas, so they're probably like
Speaker 3: military history, like you know, it's just important. But I
Speaker 3: think it was just like so like just so much
Speaker 3: with like your dad would have been proud like all
Speaker 3: of this stuff, and I'm like, all right, like let's
Speaker 3: come down to much. But yeah, I mean it's fine.
Speaker 3: But everyone was just like when this film came out,
Speaker 3: was like freaking the fuck out. And I think it's
Speaker 3: because it was delayed for so long, because it's supposed
Speaker 3: to come out in twenty twenty, and you know, I
Speaker 3: think Steven Spielberg was like, you're saving film Tom Cruise
Speaker 3: with your movie. I don't know, it was just it
Speaker 3: was fine.
Speaker 1: I feel like that was a paid statement.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I like I liked it, so I never like got
Speaker 1: to the point where I was like, everybody needs to
Speaker 1: shut the fuck up about this movie. Like everyone's freaking
Speaker 1: out way too much. And like I saw it with
Speaker 1: my wife and she like really enjoyed it. So I
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna, like, you know, tamp any of the enthusiasm down.
Speaker 1: But like in retrospect, yes, it was like a solid
Speaker 1: B plus and everyone was like, yo, they really didn't
Speaker 1: saved the movies.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, people were amped. And I'm just like, I.
Speaker 2: Just remember Jack, you were like You're like, yes, it's
Speaker 2: worth watching. You were kind of like it's fun, and
Speaker 2: that was your assessmin It was like, it's it's fun.
Speaker 2: And then I was like, Okay, maybe i'll catch it
Speaker 2: on streaming. And then I just never got around.
Speaker 1: Oh you never saw it? You never saw it in theaters?
Speaker 2: Oh, Miles, you simply must.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's why I did that, because I know
Speaker 3: it's streaming on some network right right right, But I
Speaker 3: was like, okay, like my TV's thirty inches, you can
Speaker 3: like see it behind me. I'm like, I'm like, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna watch this in a theater. I'll at least give
Speaker 3: it that, like, I'll watch it in that respect.
Speaker 2: That's a film, that's the filmmaker respect right there. You're like, well,
Speaker 2: I should see it on the big screen as it
Speaker 2: was intended to be viewed. Y, Yeah, I mean should
Speaker 2: I see it? Like what kind of shit? It's like
Speaker 2: an airplane movie? Right, It's like, yeah, if you got
Speaker 2: a minute, check it out. But like not like yo,
Speaker 2: man making up this issappointment viewing. Yeah no, I mean
Speaker 2: I already Yeah, it's a B plus for me. But
Speaker 2: there's definitely like a lot of people have reacted to
Speaker 2: it in a way, and it's not always like the
Speaker 2: people who I you know, it's not just like people
Speaker 2: who are like big fans of military or you know,
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people who really like films
Speaker 2: and like really loved that movie, and I think there's
Speaker 2: part of us that's are all rooting for movies to
Speaker 2: not go away. So I think there's some of that
Speaker 2: like tied into it. But it's yeah, I can't be like, yo,
Speaker 2: you need to catch this like by it by because
Speaker 2: I knew some people were like it's awesome, and I
Speaker 2: just I just don't know if like maybe it was
Speaker 2: one of those films that was just really entertaining, because
Speaker 2: I feel a lot of there's a there's like this
Speaker 2: misconception of like something that's really entertaining and then being
Speaker 2: like this is high art.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a difference between entertainment and a good film, right,
Speaker 3: And it's entertaining, sure, right, but there's also you know,
Speaker 3: masculinity and you know, like we're gonna take this conversation
Speaker 3: to the sky. I don't know, like vibe of just
Speaker 3: like well, let like our like skills speak for themselves
Speaker 3: type of thing.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, like, there's only one way to settle
Speaker 1: this dispute, exactly, take it.
Speaker 2: To the sky. Take it to this take our dick
Speaker 2: measuring contest to the sky.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, fine, all right, sure. I personally think
Speaker 1: the best part is like the very first like sequence
Speaker 1: or like action sequence where you like see him and
Speaker 1: he's like testing that like experimental aircraft. Like that part
Speaker 1: I thought was cool, and everything after that felt like
Speaker 1: it was almost exactly like what my brain had filled
Speaker 1: in for a top sequel. Yeah, all right, well put
Speaker 1: on the list, what's a what's something that you think
Speaker 1: is underrated?
Speaker 3: So just kind of looking at all the stuff with
Speaker 3: this new Marvel film. Uh, there was a film that
Speaker 3: I saw that I think a lot of people haven't seen.
Speaker 3: Premiered as a Toronto International Film Festival in twenty twenty one,
Speaker 3: and I programmed it for the Cleveland International Film Festival
Speaker 3: last year, and it's on Netflix and it's called Fara
Speaker 3: and it is about it's a Palestinian coming of age
Speaker 3: story and it takes place during the Nekba in the
Speaker 3: nineteen forties, and it's just very good and I just
Speaker 3: I feel like it got a lot of like I'm
Speaker 3: not gonna say there was controversy. There was controversy if
Speaker 3: you're a Zionist and you had a problem with this crazy.
Speaker 2: You're trying to humanize these people, Yes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's it's I think a really great film
Speaker 3: that I think everyone should see because it's just like
Speaker 3: and it's from a it was Jordan's international pick for
Speaker 3: best Picture for their International future Oscar, and it's really good.
Speaker 3: Like so it's on Netflix. It's just very well done.
Speaker 2: How do you spelled the title?
Speaker 3: I think it's f A R A H. There's a
Speaker 3: couple of variations of how you can spell farah.
Speaker 2: Yeah right right right, yeah, man, Wait, what were you
Speaker 2: saying about in relation to Marvel? You mentioned some of
Speaker 2: the marve. We're just saying that Marvel's just taking up
Speaker 2: the oxygen.
Speaker 3: Well no, I think there was like a like a
Speaker 3: character that was like like an Israeli copy.
Speaker 2: We're going to get to that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so that's part of the Captain America.
Speaker 3: Oh right, right right, Like seeing that, I was like, okay, wow,
Speaker 3: let me talk about this, yeah right.
Speaker 2: Rather than a former Massad agent mutant, how about a
Speaker 2: human being who's living.
Speaker 1: Are you ever former Massade or CIA or are you
Speaker 1: always just kind of you know, doing doing the work
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. I feel like that, yeah, former or current,
Speaker 1: which is pretty wild for mar to be like, it's
Speaker 1: a massagage. I was Captain Cia, Yeah, partner, Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a wild I was with somebody who's like, yeah, my
Speaker 1: dad was in the CIA and was like all like
Speaker 1: happy about it.
Speaker 2: And I was kind of like, yo, like doing what
Speaker 2: He's like, I remember that but like in the eighties,
Speaker 2: like yeah, like in Latin America and stuff. And I
Speaker 2: was like, no, why are you smiling? He's like I
Speaker 2: never saw him, but he was like like, we's got
Speaker 2: some cool stories. You should talk to him. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe he should talk to the fucking Hague.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and now there's no alternative to hyper capitalism because
Speaker 1: he killed people.
Speaker 2: It was so sick man.
Speaker 1: Basically what happened was like instead of like using immunism
Speaker 1: like as a pressure point, we were using like you know,
Speaker 1: predatory loans from the World Bank.
Speaker 2: And it was really cool.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 1: Anyway, all right, well let's take a quick break and
Speaker 1: we'll come back and we'll talk about these these dang wildfires.
Speaker 2: We'll yeah back and we're back.
Speaker 1: And Fox News I think had a bunch of anti
Speaker 1: mask like chirons like on screen over the shoulder graphics
Speaker 1: that they didn't get to use during the pandemic somehow,
Speaker 1: because they are bringing it back. They're doing with wildfire smoke.
Speaker 1: What they did with COVID and calling public health advice
Speaker 1: to wear masks, masks and stay inside a left wing conspiracy.
Speaker 1: What is the conspiracy exactly?
Speaker 2: That's the point. You can't just be like, they want
Speaker 2: you to take care of yourself. That's a conspiracy. Okay,
Speaker 2: they're conspiring to do what through this? I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's a great question, because they're Their theory of the
Speaker 1: case always seemed to be they're making a bigger deal
Speaker 1: about COVID than it really is to hurt Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: And it's somehow, even though every other country was making
Speaker 1: a bigger deal of it than we were, the fact
Speaker 1: that it was inconvenient for Donald Trump, that it was
Speaker 1: extra work, right, They're like, he already has so much work.
Speaker 1: Was all part of a conspiracy, I guess.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: The difference here, obviously is that they don't kill anyone
Speaker 1: else by not wearing a mask, which is, you know,
Speaker 1: a nice benefit. But they are you know, talking to
Speaker 1: a elderly audience, you know, and telling them that masking
Speaker 1: is part of a conspiracy to contry troll you to
Speaker 1: nobody really knows what. Stay home and watch more Fox News.
Speaker 1: I think I think sub subsistence wages are a way
Speaker 1: to control you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. That's just my theory, because then
Speaker 2: what's your alternative if you don't do that. Anyway, I
Speaker 2: don't know anything about coersion, their financial and whatever whatever. Okay,
Speaker 2: it's the masks. It's the masks. Thank god for Fox News. Yeah,
Speaker 2: for sure, for sure. So they have like experts on
Speaker 2: to Yeah, so they invited Steve molloy on to discuss
Speaker 2: this matter in particular.
Speaker 1: He is a climate scientist. Oh sorry, no, he's a
Speaker 1: former cigarette and coal lobbyist.
Speaker 2: How they want.
Speaker 1: To to speak specifically on behalf of smoke, big smoke. Okay,
Speaker 1: a lot of people have been hard on carcinogenic smoke
Speaker 1: past couple of days. We need to get the other
Speaker 1: side of this issue, right, right right, he said, of
Speaker 1: the smoke, this doesn't kill anybody, This doesn't make anybody cough.
Speaker 1: This is not a health event. Just keep telling them
Speaker 1: that and maybe that'll be true.
Speaker 2: I just I love it. It's from a guy whose
Speaker 2: job it was to tell people to not worry about
Speaker 2: the smoke, Like where even though it's scientifically proven, like
Speaker 2: whether you're mining coal or you live near a coal
Speaker 2: fired plant, like the health outcomes and all these being
Speaker 2: a cigarette smoke and he's like, no, that's not a
Speaker 2: health event, man, all right, can we move on? All right?
Speaker 2: Did my check? Okay, great, thank you?
Speaker 1: Third times, Like it's not like he can't be wrong
Speaker 1: about smoke being a risk to people's health. Okay, three
Speaker 1: times in a row. He's like, all right, I was
Speaker 1: wrong about the cigarettes, y'all got me there. And I
Speaker 1: was wrong about the coal. Yeah, yeah, that's not me,
Speaker 1: that's not me, but the wildfires. But yeah, it does
Speaker 1: like raise it. I mean, yeah, there's nobody specifically funding
Speaker 1: the wildfires. Like he's not speaking on half a big wildfire.
Speaker 1: I guess it's just all part of an attempt to
Speaker 1: tamp down as we'll see any finger pointing specifically at
Speaker 1: fossil fuel companies.
Speaker 2: But sure, so.
Speaker 1: Just you know, to in case you you were believing
Speaker 1: the coal and cigarette lobbyist. A twenty twenty one study
Speaker 1: found that thirty three thousand people a year die from
Speaker 1: pollution caused by wildfire smoke, Like, not just pollution in general,
Speaker 1: that number is astronomically high.
Speaker 2: Just wildfire smoke.
Speaker 1: Thirty three thousand people a year die from that.
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then part of the reason why wearing a mask
Speaker 1: is being suggested and not mandated, by the way, is
Speaker 1: because the health risks are long term ones. They're they're
Speaker 1: not a thing that will show up necessarily like right away.
Speaker 2: Which that's gold for Fox News, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: If it doesn't affect you right this minute, then they
Speaker 2: can be like, it doesn't even matter, dude. Watch, I'm
Speaker 2: holding this your like plutonium rod. Look, I'm rubbing on
Speaker 2: my face. It it's not doing anything to me. See
Speaker 2: maybe in like maybe three weeks from now and be fucked,
Speaker 2: but right now, all good, all good. You see you
Speaker 2: don't wear a mask. Jesus.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a history of people doing like really harmful
Speaker 1: things with like somebody with like leaded gas. They were like,
Speaker 1: I'll wash my hands in this leaded gas and I'll
Speaker 1: be fine, and then they got like incredibly sick, like
Speaker 1: right after doing that. But yeah, multiple Fox News hosts
Speaker 1: have claimed that the smoke is totally fine because they
Speaker 1: went for a walk and don't feel a thing. So
Speaker 1: that's the level of scientific rigor that they're bringing to it.
Speaker 2: Oh beautiful, I know. Even like Laura Ingram on her
Speaker 2: show had like another just creature of the coal industry
Speaker 2: on and like it's funny. She even conceded that the
Speaker 2: smoke was fucking her up. But then she's like, but
Speaker 2: it's not an issue, right. It was like a very
Speaker 2: odd here, I'll play this moment because it's weird to see.
Speaker 2: Like even on Fox she was even coppy into the
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it kind of fucking me up, but
Speaker 2: it's all good, right.
Speaker 7: Ah there it is going back to the beginning of
Speaker 7: the show, right, the inevitable intersection of climate and race.
Speaker 7: If you don't agree with Bill, at some point, they
Speaker 7: are going to call you a white supremacist. Joining me now,
Speaker 7: Steve malloy, Senior legal fellow at the Energy and Environment
Speaker 7: Legal Institute and Trump Era Transition Team member, Steve No
Speaker 7: one's denying it is unpleasant. My eyes are pretty itchy
Speaker 7: and watery yesterday and a little bit today, and it
Speaker 7: might go on for a couple more days. But is
Speaker 7: this wholly out of the ordinary?
Speaker 2: I just like that. She starts off being like, yeah, man,
Speaker 2: that's fucking my eyes up pretty bad. You know, obviously
Speaker 2: maybe for the next couple of days, but this is fine, right,
Speaker 2: And the guy's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, like he basically
Speaker 2: like it's totally normal. All right, thanks, Laura, I'm off,
Speaker 2: but yeah, it's uh, they got to do everything they
Speaker 2: can to just they have to be so nonchalant about
Speaker 2: the air quality in order to obscure the impacts of
Speaker 2: climate change because they can't cop They cannot There's no
Speaker 2: way they can acknowledge that the smoke is bad, because
Speaker 2: that would be an indirect way of saying this shit
Speaker 2: is actually bad that we're experiencing on the planet, like
Speaker 2: the situation around us is bad. They cannot ever ever
Speaker 2: admit that, so it has to always be oh man,
Speaker 2: they wearing masks as AOC's the snow. Whatever the fuck
Speaker 2: it is, right, They're just putting so much energy into
Speaker 2: this shit. It's like, lor are you even though?
Speaker 1: But okay whatever, and her to her question, this is
Speaker 1: this really out of the ordinary? New York City recorded
Speaker 1: its worst ever air quality Wednesday.
Speaker 2: Ever when like this month, no, no, no, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: usually ever just means this month.
Speaker 1: In the history of New York, a city that like
Speaker 1: we look at the pictures of New York in the past,
Speaker 1: it's just like, you know, but it's very hazy with
Speaker 1: air pollution, and you know, covered in horseshit and not
Speaker 1: not the cleanest looking place in the world, like like
Speaker 1: you know, the little kids who are working the factories
Speaker 1: all have like black lung and this beat all that
Speaker 1: ship you know.
Speaker 2: Right, who are so noha? Who are you gonna blame
Speaker 2: in this in the smoke? Is it climate change? Or
Speaker 2: is it Canada? Because we're also seeing that, Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: blame Oh.
Speaker 3: But weren't they caused by like lightning?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, arrest the lightning. Yeah.
Speaker 3: You know, there's so many things I'm gonna I think
Speaker 3: I want to go with a climate change because that's
Speaker 3: what makes sense.
Speaker 8: And actually the truth alarmist alarmist is like, what's what's
Speaker 8: the big sort of like the closest thing that happens
Speaker 8: like in Austin or in your community that you're like, oh,
Speaker 8: that's climate change, and then other people like, no, that's
Speaker 8: this other thing.
Speaker 3: Oh God, I don't know. I feel like the well,
Speaker 3: I guess like all the crazy snowstorms we've had so
Speaker 3: which I saw is part of the paint with Barby
Speaker 3: and yeah, like we gets snowed, I think again in
Speaker 3: February and I lost my electricity for four days and
Speaker 3: then it's just yeah, like for four days. It wasn't
Speaker 3: as bad as like that twenty twenty one storm. But
Speaker 3: I mean, like it always snows here. I mean it's
Speaker 3: not like a pretty like you know, like New England snow.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it shouldn't. Yeah, we shouldn't be like freaking
Speaker 3: out just because of like there's ice on the road
Speaker 3: and then like everything like goes to hell. But it's
Speaker 3: also because of our grid that is connected to the
Speaker 3: rest of the country, which I did not know until
Speaker 3: that massive snow snow from twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, and how like terribly privatized it basically is.
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, to avoid paying taxes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, both problems caused by deregulate the energy industry,
Speaker 1: which has worked beautifully. Over at Newsmax, we finally get
Speaker 1: a voice of reason on the right.
Speaker 2: The hosts are weirdly.
Speaker 1: Kind of horny for the smoke and also like no
Speaker 1: big deal, MBD think it kind of smells good.
Speaker 9: Yeah, arn smug here in New York City. Have you
Speaker 9: heard many cities on the East Coast primarily have this
Speaker 9: big blanket of ron smug right over the top of it.
Speaker 9: Our woke friends to the north in Canada there forest
Speaker 9: fires got out of hand, and well, this is what
Speaker 9: we're dealing with. It's complicating some people's lives, but it's manageable.
Speaker 9: I'll tell you. It actually smells like wood smoke. It's
Speaker 9: not an unpleasant odor, to be honest. It's kind of
Speaker 9: weird when it seeps into the building. But outdoors, I
Speaker 9: can deal with it. Folks with respiratory issues though, that's
Speaker 9: a real thing, a real complication. The White House is
Speaker 9: trying to, I like to deploit this saying it's all.
Speaker 2: Really did He was like, hey, man, but if you
Speaker 2: got a respiratory issue, man, that might you Well.
Speaker 1: That must suck anyways, moving along.
Speaker 3: Seeping into the buildings, But that's fine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's a little weird when you can like,
Speaker 2: it smells like wood smoke, yeah, because it's from a
Speaker 2: fucking forest fire. It's it's a millions of wood smoke. Motherfucker.
Speaker 2: What are you talking.
Speaker 1: And he also goes on in that clip to say
Speaker 1: that it's pretty and beautiful. I think, yeah, so he's yeah, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, like he's next two images that look
Speaker 1: like they are like after a horrible like bombing in
Speaker 1: a in a war zone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but this is the beautiful aura. Like I
Speaker 3: think it's great that he used the word aura.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is like calm aura over the city. I
Speaker 2: really like it. It's just made this is wild that
Speaker 2: like if you're going, like how far are we from?
Speaker 2: When they're like, oh, this house that like this terrible
Speaker 2: fire that burned up half a city that was beautiful,
Speaker 2: that was great, you know what I mean, like to
Speaker 2: like ex use away these things that are so obvious
Speaker 2: in front of you, like it like oh god, the yeah,
Speaker 2: you do get the mental gymnastics.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, where we're headed with this shit, the
Speaker 1: glimpse of where we're headed, but also like of the
Speaker 1: the type of brain that like turns into an on
Speaker 1: air anchor, like because remember like that Brian Williams clip
Speaker 1: where it is like the beautiful majesty of our weapons
Speaker 1: like this, oh, watching like missiles being launched right anyways,
Speaker 1: At the New York Times, I mean, they're obviously overall
Speaker 1: like they're not trying to claim the fires have nothing
Speaker 1: to do with climate change. The articles always mentioned that
Speaker 1: human induced climate change is the cause, but the biggest
Speaker 1: article on the front page of their website at a
Speaker 1: time when everybody like this is the main question on
Speaker 1: I think a lot of Americans minds, specifically like people
Speaker 1: in New York's minds. Is this like op ed from
Speaker 1: somebody who's like in charge of fighting forest fires, and
Speaker 1: they're just like, we need to stop putting up with
Speaker 1: these dufices who start these fires. And then they're like, well,
Speaker 1: not these fires. Actually these fires were caused by lightning strikes,
Speaker 1: but a lot of the ones other fires are caused
Speaker 1: by people being careless. And so she talks about like
Speaker 1: how like when I look at like the devastation of
Speaker 1: these forest fires and these wildfires, I get so angry
Speaker 1: and then like really just goes in on.
Speaker 2: A dirt bikers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dirt bikers who like don't have the sparkrect spark yeah,
Speaker 1: spark suppression on their vehicles or whatever, and it's it's
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, get mad, like get mad at the
Speaker 1: system and the companies that you know, we're aware of this,
Speaker 1: didn't like paid for did research into this before the
Speaker 1: rest of the world knew it was going to be
Speaker 1: a problem. In the eighties, we're like at the forefront
Speaker 1: of the research and then we're like, uh, we're going
Speaker 1: to actually pretend it's not a thing, and let you
Speaker 1: guys find out about it on your own. And you know,
Speaker 1: like that would be a great place to look to
Speaker 1: four consequences instead of the people who are doing the
Speaker 1: same things they were doing in the eighties and now
Speaker 1: it is causing Hey, they.
Speaker 2: Weren't doing gender reveals like this Jack in the Ages.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 2: So you know what, man, that's that's on them. I
Speaker 2: just love this shit that we're they're going the plastic
Speaker 2: straws route on climate change with these people. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: on y'all. Y'all need to stop this ship. You knock
Speaker 2: this shit off because it ain't the fucking massive place.
Speaker 2: So it's not that it's y'all, okay, these damn dirt
Speaker 2: bikes has nothing to do with my friends at Excellent Moobile. Nothing.
Speaker 1: It's kind of smart because the main focus is like
Speaker 1: behave like these actions by people who are clearly not
Speaker 1: New York Times readers, Like New York Times readers aren't
Speaker 1: going out and like riding dirt bikes through the wilderness
Speaker 1: with sumptuous sparks shooting after them, or like one of
Speaker 1: the people who started one of the forest fires in
Speaker 1: La or in Californa was like a father and son
Speaker 1: who like went out shooting in the woods. Right, So
Speaker 1: it's like stuff that like obviously, I'm like, yeah, that'd
Speaker 1: be real easy to stop. And you know, it's really
Speaker 1: easy for everyone to look down upon who like isn't
Speaker 1: born to that culture obviously, but uh it's and yeah,
Speaker 1: don't don't do that shit. I'm all for fire safety,
Speaker 1: but it does feel like a strategic effort to be
Speaker 1: to like put a singular individual out in front instead
Speaker 1: of you know, companies and decisions made a long time
Speaker 1: ago by these companies who are trying hard, as will
Speaker 1: show you in this paid sponsored news Blend article that
Speaker 1: we're about to publish and link off too at the
Speaker 1: end of this you know, yeah.
Speaker 2: It's it's so, it's so yeah whatever, I mean it.
Speaker 2: This is what they have to do because it's like
Speaker 2: the people know, people ingest the writings and the posts
Speaker 2: of the New York Times, and so if you read that,
Speaker 2: then someone is more likely to go and have a
Speaker 2: conversation about that, which is like I read this thing
Speaker 2: in the New York Times that they actually said that
Speaker 2: like there's a lot of this could be prevented if
Speaker 2: people didn't have you know, gender reveal parties in the
Speaker 2: woods or put spark suppressors on their dirt bikes, rather
Speaker 2: than if it was constantly saying it's these fucking companies. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they are the ones who are fucking murdering everybody. But
Speaker 2: because it's a quote company and we're treating this like
Speaker 2: amorphous thing because it generates capital, that we can't somehow
Speaker 2: hold it responsible. So let's avoid that conversation and just
Speaker 2: move to the finger pointing to the dumb dums who
Speaker 2: like to shoot their guns off in the forest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, The New York Times is part of the that
Speaker 1: side of you know, they are a mouthpiece for the
Speaker 1: whole like democratic and like corporate entities and the enemy
Speaker 1: of like their readers are hillbillies, so like you know,
Speaker 1: in their reader's mind there, so let's blame hillbillies. Let's
Speaker 1: find a way to make this about, you know, hating
Speaker 1: mega people.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's urban versus grarian all over again. Yes, exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 2: tale's oldest time.
Speaker 1: Tale, as old as time. I think that's how the
Speaker 1: rest of that song went.
Speaker 2: Urban versa grarian.
Speaker 1: I mean, Belle was very urbane. She wasn't urban, but
Speaker 1: she was like I read books and you guys are
Speaker 1: idiots and you do the same shit over and over
Speaker 1: every day, and I'm fucking.
Speaker 2: Tired of it. So meet my dog man boyfriend, and
Speaker 2: I'm into this guy.
Speaker 3: And I also got with my kidnapper and.
Speaker 2: Not kidnapping, like hey, but he gave me a nice dress.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: That so I can't say the treatments that bad being
Speaker 2: kidnapped by this man. But it's wild too, like because
Speaker 2: along with that, like there's this sort of there's like
Speaker 2: this republican or conservative sort of worldview. Right, it's like
Speaker 2: so fatalistic about everything, that's where there's no point in
Speaker 2: trying to do anything about. It's like they're like, who
Speaker 2: cares about unhoused? Who cares about people being fucking slaughtered
Speaker 2: or living in an apartheid state or child I'm going
Speaker 2: to heaven.
Speaker 1: I've been saved.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So on Fox and Friends earlier this week, host
Speaker 2: Rachel campost Duffy aka to elder millennials, Rachel from the
Speaker 2: Real World, San Francisco. Okay, that season with Pedro and Puck,
Speaker 2: if you remember that very I can't believe this. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: Rachel Camp. She was because she was the conservative on
Speaker 2: that real world San Francisco crowd because she was from
Speaker 2: Arizona and she was always like being like, what the
Speaker 2: fuck am I doing in San Francisco?
Speaker 1: What year was this?
Speaker 6: This was ninety e one is like the second season. Yeah,
Speaker 6: this is like yeah, this was this was a round
Speaker 6: but I was one. Okay, okay, credit to you, credit
Speaker 6: to you. Well then you should have been watching.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 3: We had a TV in Pakistan at that time.
Speaker 2: Okay, well they have it now now, huh so uh anyway,
Speaker 2: and also her last name is Duffy because she married
Speaker 2: a dude from Road Rules. Okay, that's like her anyway.
Speaker 2: And then she became this like maga conservative on TV.
Speaker 2: She wasn't talking directly about the fires earlier this week,
Speaker 2: but her words definitely again they portray this like fatalistic
Speaker 2: worldview that comes along with being like one of these
Speaker 2: Christian nationalists, the idea that you know, I don't give
Speaker 2: a fuck about Earth because Heaven.
Speaker 5: Sometimes, you know, we look at how hard on the
Speaker 5: left they play, They really play for keeps, they play
Speaker 5: in a way that's very you know a lot of
Speaker 5: times conservatives look at and go, why don't we play
Speaker 5: as hardness nound well for them where we live right now,
Speaker 5: this place earth is it?
Speaker 3: So everything on the line here for them, they think,
Speaker 3: as you said, they can perfect this earth. Those of
Speaker 3: us who have faith don't believe that.
Speaker 4: And we believe how we act here determine where we
Speaker 4: go after and so we had to behave and so
Speaker 4: even in politics we don't you know, we act within
Speaker 4: those moral limits and you know, the ends justify the
Speaker 4: means is sort of the rules for radicals.
Speaker 2: Right, I'm so lost the way, like it was such
Speaker 2: a contradiction upon like strong man arguments't too much there.
Speaker 1: So so that's why they're so kind in right, because
Speaker 1: because we believe what we do on earth terms where
Speaker 1: fuck earth, But what we do here determines it.
Speaker 2: That's why we want to pollute it to shit. We
Speaker 2: want to completely harass other people and villainize them, you know,
Speaker 2: not be kind or caring. I don't know what the
Speaker 2: golden rule is because I have not actually read the Bible,
Speaker 2: but I do like to use like I like to
Speaker 2: evoke the Bible for my own lack of morals, I guess.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's where they are these It's like the
Speaker 2: same way, like this is kind of the worldview like
Speaker 2: in the Cold War, right, like people were like, well,
Speaker 2: the Soviets aren't gonna blow the world up because they
Speaker 2: believe this is it. There's no afterlife, like we believe
Speaker 2: or whatever, you know what I mean. Like it's just
Speaker 2: a very weird thing. Like the enemy has no God.
Speaker 2: That's why they are here wanting to perfect the earth.
Speaker 2: And I'm sorry, that's a bad thing. We're trying to
Speaker 2: be good custodians of this fucking little planet that we're
Speaker 2: on for a brief fucking moment, and i'd most of
Speaker 2: us are not. I'd hope most of us would rather
Speaker 2: not be contributing to like some fucking system of oppression
Speaker 2: or pollution or degradation whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's I mean, it's acknowledging. Like it's actually
Speaker 1: a pretty interesting point because she's she's basically saying, like
Speaker 1: we believe in evil and like are just like can't
Speaker 1: beat evil, so you just gotta like kill it away,
Speaker 1: put it in prison, you know, like do all that stuff,
Speaker 1: because there's no fixing these people, right, and that that
Speaker 1: is a like it's kind of a good window into
Speaker 1: how their minds work and how their worldview works.
Speaker 2: And why they are really dangerous. The wild thing is
Speaker 2: the end of that quote where she said where said
Speaker 2: the ends justify the means is sort of the rules
Speaker 2: for radicals. That it got cut off. She continues by saying,
Speaker 2: that's not how Christians act. Oh really the whole Wow,
Speaker 2: how do we get here anyway? Don't worry about it?
Speaker 2: What's colonization at all? And whatever? Fine? Do you think
Speaker 2: do you think Rachel Campbell's stuff? Well, we'd go to break.
Speaker 1: But we we do have to transition from that statement
Speaker 1: that you know, Christians are are kind and don't believe
Speaker 1: in ends justify the means to the passing of a
Speaker 1: man who embodied the opposite of that, Pat Robertson just
Speaker 1: one of the worst people, garbage. The only people who
Speaker 1: seem to be upset about his passing are people who
Speaker 1: mistakenly thought that Robert Pattinson had died No, which yeah,
Speaker 1: are there were there people who were like, I can't
Speaker 1: believe it, or they're like they that's a joke.
Speaker 2: He didn't die.
Speaker 1: It was trending on Twitter. It is like the exact
Speaker 1: opposite Pat Robertson. Robert Pattinson.
Speaker 3: That's actually really funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hadn't connected them. But yeah, Robin Shadowcaster seventy
Speaker 1: eight said, my dyslexic ass thought this, said Robert Pattinson.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, it's Patterson the Bad Ones. It's I
Speaker 2: mean Rob roberts Robertson.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now you're doing it all right. So just a
Speaker 1: quick greatest hits of this piece of shit. So just
Speaker 1: one thing that makes him like he was still being
Speaker 1: followed by a lot of people up until the end,
Speaker 1: or like watched by a lot of people, sent money
Speaker 1: by a lot of people. He was constantly predicting apocalypses
Speaker 1: that never came, just throughout his life, Like in nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy six, he said the world was going to end
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty two, so he thought the rapture was
Speaker 1: going to come before Return of the Jedi.
Speaker 2: Ever came out.
Speaker 1: Nineteen ninety he wrote a book claiming the world was
Speaker 1: going to end in two thousand and seven. Just kept
Speaker 1: predicting the end of the world right up until twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: when he said that Trump was going to win the
Speaker 1: election oops, and an asteroid was going to destroy us all.
Speaker 1: So again, just a I don't know, interesting insight into
Speaker 1: how the minds of the people who who follow him operate,
Speaker 1: which is I guess very forgiving.
Speaker 2: Well, if the world's going to end, then you know,
Speaker 2: all good. Yeah, that motivates you to be like, that's
Speaker 2: why I'm in this corner because the world about to end.
Speaker 2: Are you saved? Yeah? Oh wait, what happens? It just
Speaker 2: it's just silence after you pass away.
Speaker 1: And then he blamed horrific tragedies on things he just
Speaker 1: didn't like. So one week after nine eleven, he and
Speaker 1: Jerky fall Well got together to say that God had
Speaker 1: allowed the terrorists to succeed because the United States had
Speaker 1: become a nation of abortion, homosexuality, secular schools and courts,
Speaker 1: and the American Civil Liberties Union. So the ACLU was
Speaker 1: to blame for nine to eleven.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Now, I mean he's always blamed. It's like
Speaker 2: women or gay people, or Muslims or anybody who is
Speaker 2: not cis white Christian. Like from there, it's like, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: the Haitians. You know why they had that earthquake. It
Speaker 2: is because they made a deal with the devil back
Speaker 2: when they fucking liberated themselves from slavery from the French.
Speaker 2: This man really said that shit. He said they got
Speaker 2: an earthquake because they made a deal with the devil
Speaker 2: to liberate themselves from slavery.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 2: And we've only seen We've talked about this time and
Speaker 2: again about how the Western world has just fucking like
Speaker 2: landed knockout blow after knockout blow on hate as like
Speaker 2: a response to them being like you are the you
Speaker 2: were going to be the first and last group of
Speaker 2: like subjugated people that will liberate themselves from colonizers, and
Speaker 2: we're gonna make a fucking example out of you for centuries.
Speaker 2: Is that it's not they made a deal with the devil.
Speaker 2: That's that's why. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He repeatedly attacked Muslims, Islam, and the prophet Muhammad throughout
Speaker 1: the years and called the religion a monumental scam. And
Speaker 1: then I just want to compare that with his charity
Speaker 1: work supporting Rwandan refugees in Ziere was actually a front
Speaker 1: for his blood diamond mining operation. Like there's there's a documentary.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, what that couldn't be the You couldn't
Speaker 2: script something more fucking evil than that.
Speaker 1: So, according to Jesse Potts, who served as operations manager
Speaker 1: for a organization that was helping people after the genocide.
Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety four, the charity stopped sending medical teams
Speaker 1: to like one of the camps where refugees were being
Speaker 1: held several weeks into the operation. And then the film
Speaker 1: that put all this together alleges that these resources, the donations,
Speaker 1: the cargo planes, et cetera, were used for the for
Speaker 1: profit African Development Company Limited, a diamond mining operation that
Speaker 1: was headquartered in Kinshasa, while the mining site itself was
Speaker 1: located in a remote village nearby. Robertson was the sole
Speaker 1: shareholder and president of African Development Company Ltd.
Speaker 2: So rest piss you fucking loser. Yeah, fucking unbelievable. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I mean like just like I remember he said
Speaker 2: something about how like or Florida was gonna get hurricanes
Speaker 2: because Disneyland had like a gay like Pride night in
Speaker 2: the nineties. Yeah, and it's like hurricanes hit fucking full Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: go ahead, it's that too. It's that too, or like
Speaker 2: eight like that. People that with HIV or aids like
Speaker 2: HIV's they were they were transmitting it to straight people
Speaker 2: as like have a conspiracy. That's all this all these
Speaker 2: like the people like that, you know, this is I'm done.
Speaker 2: I'm done.
Speaker 1: In a twenty thirteen segment on The seven hundred Club
Speaker 1: that he said that gay people have a secret ring
Speaker 1: that transmits HIV to unsuspecting people they shake hands with.
Speaker 1: His co host was like really, and he said, really really,
Speaker 1: it is that kind of vicious stuff, which would be
Speaker 1: the equivalent of murder. And then the following year he
Speaker 1: warned warned that tals in Kenya could transmit eights. So
Speaker 1: he just oh, constantly just churning complete.
Speaker 2: And yeah, anti blackness, anti type like just homophobia, whatever
Speaker 2: he needs to do. One time he said, you shouldn't
Speaker 2: even adopt kids. Yeah, like that was he was like,
Speaker 2: had to take like that. He said, quote, you just
Speaker 2: never know what's been done to a child before you
Speaker 2: get that child. Yeah. Well man, okay, so you're so anyway,
Speaker 2: it's just anyway, thank God if you're out there for
Speaker 2: taking him or I'm saying, Satan, thank you for reclaiming
Speaker 2: him and taking him down with you. I appreciate you, Satan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's take a quick break and we'll
Speaker 1: come back and talk about Captain America. We'll be right right,
Speaker 1: and we're back, and Captain America is back as well.
Speaker 1: The new Captain America movie. I mean it's it's in
Speaker 1: the works. I guess it's a reboot I checked out
Speaker 1: from the Marvel universe. But I think they had what
Speaker 1: happened to Chris, I don't know. I don't know if
Speaker 1: he was one of the ones that didn't make it
Speaker 1: out of it.
Speaker 2: I have no ideabout any other yeah either, I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh cool, like we got black Captain in America, all right, Okay,
Speaker 2: I don't want to need to ask about the last one.
Speaker 1: So the new film was supposed to be titled Captain
Speaker 1: America New World Order, which that's a famous New World
Speaker 1: Order is a famous right wing belief about a powerful,
Speaker 1: usually Jewish, global cabal. And they were like, it has
Speaker 1: nothing to do with that stuff. It's simply about the
Speaker 1: new Captain America, Sam Wilson and how the world has
Speaker 1: changed around him and he's a changed man. So they've
Speaker 1: changed the title to Captain America, Where we go one,
Speaker 1: we go all?
Speaker 3: But how is like, how did they come up with
Speaker 3: something worse?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 2: I just made that up.
Speaker 1: They just went for an even more explicit that happen
Speaker 1: like right, I was like, wow, yeah, sense they want
Speaker 1: to say symbolize something about Avenger sticking together. So you
Speaker 1: know where we go one we go all just felt
Speaker 1: like the right one A phrase they just came up with. No,
Speaker 1: I forget what they changed it to. It's I think,
Speaker 1: uh like Brave New World Act Brave New World. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right, it is. And there it's an Alvis Huxley.
Speaker 2: That's also about conspiracies but okay, or like you know,
Speaker 2: the gateway to it.
Speaker 1: And then Marvel also decided to like balance out name
Speaker 1: checking an anti Semitic conspiracy with including a Zionist superhero, Sabra,
Speaker 1: a mutant Israeli police officer turned Massad agent.
Speaker 2: That is the most horrifying concept of character right now.
Speaker 3: All of this sounds like things that are like spoofed
Speaker 3: in a TV show that.
Speaker 1: Like can't be right.
Speaker 2: It sounds like a character in The Boys, right, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like there's like and then there's yeah,
Speaker 2: who's like a mutant like Massad agent, and you're like, oh, no,
Speaker 2: what do they do? What they get the status core?
Speaker 2: Are they holding up?
Speaker 1: How do they they have this character and not talk
Speaker 1: about like the fascism of like Masad and like the
Speaker 1: right in Israel, like how does that How do you
Speaker 1: even think that that's a possibility. Well, the name itself
Speaker 1: is a major problem. Sabra is a reference to the
Speaker 1: Sabra cactus, which became a symbol of loss and steadfastness
Speaker 1: to Palestinians following the bush's resilience during the Knockbahn in
Speaker 1: nineteen forty eight and making it extra insensitive. In nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty two, two years after the introduction of the Sabra
Speaker 1: character in Marvel Comics, the Israeli's massacred hundreds of people
Speaker 1: in two Palestinian refugee camps in Lebanon, one of which
Speaker 1: was named Sabra. So people were like, yeah, maybe we don't.
Speaker 2: Do What do you want to do with that? What
Speaker 2: do you want to do with that? Yeah? How are
Speaker 2: they like? They're like, don't worry, She's not gonna mention
Speaker 2: Palestine in the movie, So just get over it. That's
Speaker 2: how we're going to excuse it.
Speaker 1: They tried to defend the backlash by claiming that the
Speaker 1: character of Sabra would be freshly imagined for the screen
Speaker 1: and today's audience, with the filmmakers taking a new approach. So, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe she'll just be the heiress to
Speaker 1: the Sobra Hummus Empire or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would work. Yeah, it feels like they're like, oh, yeah, no, no,
Speaker 2: nothing like that. That's just her name because her family's
Speaker 2: in the hummus business. That's all. That's all. Yeah. Like
Speaker 2: the first the intro to the character is also just
Speaker 2: so grim too, Like it's like that like when they
Speaker 2: created the characters, like they know better or like they
Speaker 2: understand the geopolitical situation but also quite don't want to
Speaker 2: like wade into it fully. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Her first introductions in an Incredible Hulk comic and like
Speaker 1: has Hulk screaming at her for not giving a shit
Speaker 1: about a literal dead Palestinian child. Like in the frame
Speaker 1: with her as she's being introduced.
Speaker 2: It's this, boy died because boys people and yours both
Speaker 2: want to own land. Boy died because you wouldn't share,
Speaker 2: and like the Hulk is in tears and boy died
Speaker 2: because of two old books that say his people and
Speaker 2: yours must fight and kill for land. And I don't know, yeah,
Speaker 2: but I guess that did somewhat. I'll like, I don't
Speaker 2: know get through to the character. But again they don't
Speaker 2: even actually you know, they never actually refer to the
Speaker 2: child as like being Palestinian. Yeah, just arab assassins or terrorists.
Speaker 2: That's like Jesus really didn't the child dies in a
Speaker 2: fight with arab assassins. In the context of the book,
Speaker 2: you almost you almost did it, Kulk, you almost. With
Speaker 2: the writers of that one, you almost got there, You
Speaker 2: almost got there. Yeah, then you fell back on the
Speaker 2: old habits. Huh.
Speaker 1: So The Brave New World obviously a reference to Aldus
Speaker 1: Huxley's classic dystopian novel, which maybe not coincidentally, may have
Speaker 1: helped to inspire the New World Order conspiracy theory. So
Speaker 1: they're like, we're not gonna like not touch it. We're
Speaker 1: just gonna not explicitly like say that that's what we're
Speaker 1: doing here.
Speaker 2: But I wonder who is like actually cast Oh it's
Speaker 2: gonna be Israeli actress to Shira Haas. Okay, interesting.
Speaker 1: I hope she was a former Massade agent in order
Speaker 1: to kind of keep it like authentic.
Speaker 2: But we'll see, we shall see. It's just I mean,
Speaker 2: it's it's just so funny when like like comics like
Speaker 2: sometimes they can have like a really good message, Like
Speaker 2: when you know the writers are like trying to make
Speaker 2: a point, but it's so wild that frame where it's like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, you'll talk about the fuck you know
Speaker 2: is the occupation? Please go off money And then you're like,
Speaker 2: but then they were terrorists, you like, you wrote this,
Speaker 2: fucking wrote this. Then I say the CIA.
Speaker 1: Vaguely Arab assassins, which has something in common with top
Speaker 1: Gun Maverick, which is just like, it's not really yeah country,
Speaker 1: so to speak. It's more a collection of people who
Speaker 1: are trying to enrich plutonium, right right. We won't say
Speaker 1: anyone's name.
Speaker 2: But you guys get it. You know, maybe we had
Speaker 2: a deal with them.
Speaker 1: No mountainous region. I don't know if you're faking up
Speaker 1: taking down here.
Speaker 10: Oh wait, turn on the radio and I ran, I
Speaker 10: ran so farway Okay, you guys get it all right?
Speaker 1: Well naha, such a pleasure having you as always. Where
Speaker 1: can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So people can find me on Instagram at Nahousie's and
Speaker 3: Twitter at Neyhouze's thirteen. You can find my podcast at
Speaker 3: nineteen forty seven pot on Twitter and Partition Podcast on Instagram.
Speaker 3: And the podcast is about the nineteen forty seven Partition
Speaker 3: of India and the formation of Podkistan, which celebrated it's
Speaker 3: seventy fifth anniversary last year. Well I don't think celebrating
Speaker 3: is the right word, but it was. It took place
Speaker 3: only five years ago from last year, and you know,
Speaker 3: I talked to my relatives. I was born in Pakistan,
Speaker 3: so it was just like a really interesting thing to
Speaker 3: delve into. And then you can find my film which
Speaker 3: we are making at the end of July, possibly early August.
Speaker 3: So that happened film on Instagram and we are still crowdfunding,
Speaker 3: so we miraculously got funded in three days. We got
Speaker 3: fifteen thousand dollars, which is amazing. But now we're trying
Speaker 3: to spread our goal to twenty k because like fifteen
Speaker 3: k was like the bare minimum we could make this
Speaker 3: movie along with another grant that I got, and it's
Speaker 3: still going for two more weeks. So you can find
Speaker 3: all that information. So that happened film on Instagram.
Speaker 2: And also yeah, check web the link also for you
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Speaker 1: Tradition so good, everybody should go check it out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And is there a work of media that you've been enjoying?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I actually use this film as like a
Speaker 3: reference for my film. It's called Past Lives. It is
Speaker 3: so good, so beautiful. I saw it at Sundance. I
Speaker 3: saw it again last week because one of the film
Speaker 3: festivals I worked for in Austin, we did a advance
Speaker 3: screening with a twenty four at our local art house.
Speaker 3: And it's out in New York, it's out in California,
Speaker 3: and I think it is playing in Austin some other places.
Speaker 3: But it's kind of like a slow rollout. But it's
Speaker 3: written and directed by Selene's song she's playwright. And it's
Speaker 3: just kind of about like the things that I loved
Speaker 3: about relationships changing over time, kind of like where you
Speaker 3: are in your current life versus like what could happen
Speaker 3: in the future, and like things in the past, like
Speaker 3: if you just like stayed in a certain place, like
Speaker 3: what world your life be like? And it's just so
Speaker 3: beautiful and and like the writing is so amazing, and
Speaker 3: I suggest, like everyone watch it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it's just now opening wide, like yeah, and
Speaker 1: the I think it has the highest Metacritics score of
Speaker 1: like any movies.
Speaker 3: I don't doubt that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's got a ninety two metacritics, crazy, amazing, Miles.
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Is there a workimedia you've
Speaker 1: been enjoying? Uh?
Speaker 2: Twitter, Instagram at Miles of Gray Basketball Talk. That's Miles
Speaker 2: and Jack Got Mad. Boosty is our other podcast. And
Speaker 2: then if you want to hear me talk about ninety
Speaker 2: Day Fiance the other way or no before the ninety
Speaker 2: Days which just aired, check me out on four to
Speaker 2: twenty Day Fiance with Sophia Alexandra. I don't really have
Speaker 2: a work on media again. I've I just I finished
Speaker 2: that show Siren because all the episodes all came out
Speaker 2: this week and I had to watch it to its conclusion.
Speaker 2: So I'm just kidding on that. Another work of Korean media. Actually,
Speaker 2: there you go.
Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien
Speaker 1: a tweet I've been enjoying at fans since O nine tweeted,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know why Tar can't be in
Speaker 1: the next Fast and Furious movie. Just have them go
Speaker 1: to our Long Island childhood home and she's like, well, well, well,
Speaker 1: Dominic Toretto and it turns out she's been holding a
Speaker 1: super car for him and hurt garage.
Speaker 2: I think it's a good idea.
Speaker 1: It makes sense to me. You can find me on
Speaker 1: Twitter at Jack Underscore O Brian. You can find us
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Speaker 1: our footnote or link off to the information that we
Speaker 1: talked about in today's episode, as well as a song
Speaker 1: that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what's the song
Speaker 1: do you think people might enjoy?
Speaker 2: We're gonna go out on some French rap. This is
Speaker 2: Prince Wally okay, w a l y and the track
Speaker 2: is called Balotelli, like Mario Balotelli is a soccer player
Speaker 2: and it's Dope's just I don't know, Like whenever I
Speaker 2: hear a French rap, I don't know what they're saying,
Speaker 2: but it sounds cool. So let me know if if
Speaker 2: you've a francophone and you're like, oh no, you don't
Speaker 2: want to be you don't want to be singing this song,
Speaker 2: but anyway, the beat is cool, So check out Baloatelli
Speaker 2: by Prince Wally. Mario not to be confused with Mario Batali,
Speaker 2: No no, Mario Balatelli, who is a ganane Italian soccer player,
Speaker 2: much cooler than much after. He's actually kind of a
Speaker 2: like he was a wild he was a wild figure
Speaker 2: like Dana was one of those players who was like
Speaker 2: had a lot going for him and then his personality
Speaker 2: just led him to self destruct his own career.
Speaker 4: There you go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but anyway, we've seen it all before. All right, Well,
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