1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:04,359 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two ninety episode 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: for Daley's Eye Guys Today production of My Heart Radio. 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: into American share consciousness. And it is Friday, Friday, June night, 5 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. 6 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 2: You know what that is. It's National Earl Day. I 7 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: think what Earl? Earl? The name Earl, the name of Earl. 8 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: Is that all the Earls out there? Wait? Who what 9 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: was DMX's real name. Wasn't DMX's real name Earl Earl? 10 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 2: I believe? So yeah, Earl Simmons. Yeah, so that's an 11 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 2: Earl shout out, Earl sweatshirt, you know, like all the 12 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 2: other Earls out there. And also National Strawberry Rubarb Pie Day, 13 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: National Donald Duck Day, which is not like when we 14 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 2: were talking about our guest Hugo Bosk about just not 15 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: wearing pants for the character and National Movie Night there 16 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: we got didn't realize it was a movie night. 17 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: And it is six ' nine, so you know, oh yeah. 18 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. We're saying this is a new four twenty, 19 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 2: like we're past four twenty and we're embracing six ' 20 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 2: nine sixty nine nine because we are juvenile at the 21 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 2: end of the day. Well, that'll be the last juvenile 22 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 2: thing that you hear from us in this Yeah. Absolutely, 23 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 2: my name is how's my posture? 24 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: Strong? 25 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 2: Fantastic? Good? 26 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: My name is Jack O'Brien aka my milkshake brings all 27 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: the boys to the pit and they're like, this is 28 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: Grimace's jizz. Damn right, it's Grimace's jizz on your birthday. 29 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: McDonald's is lit. That is courtesy of Scotty Magoo. 30 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: Oh class personified, Keep them bad. 31 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: Scotty Magoo prefaced the said I need to preface this 32 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: with a sincere apology. I didn't want to do this, 33 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: but Jack made us all listen to that. I'm assuming 34 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: he's referring to any aka I ever sunk oh right 35 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: and said, so I need to do this to close 36 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:03,559 Speaker 1: the karmac circle or something and keep the karmic circle closing. 37 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 2: Because I appreciate them. 38 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co 39 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: host mister Miles. 40 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: Grab Miles Gray k. 41 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 3: So my life a prateful pizza from you, and now 42 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 3: thing God. 43 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: Dad, I can show you my ding dong. 44 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: Oh my love. 45 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 4: I wanted to flash. 46 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 1: My dick and I hope bet you feel the same way. 47 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 2: To Okay, shout out to Jamee Music again talking about 48 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:44,119 Speaker 2: Hugo Bosk and the prevalence of pantiless people that come 49 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 2: to the door when he delivers pizza and Casey and Jojo, 50 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 2: I'm still looking for a cliff. I sang that song 51 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 2: on like a Fox variety show in like the whatever. 52 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 2: That song came out at Citywalker Universal and I was 53 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: wilding in and I remember back then there was no 54 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 2: tv ow and shit like and I remember at the 55 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: last minute, like when it was airing, I don't think 56 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: I was on it, but someone said I may have. 57 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 2: Well they cut you out, they may have. I was 58 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 2: doing a lot. I was doing a lot. It was 59 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 2: like this too much like the History Onics, a little 60 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: too much for Fox. Let's get this kid out. Wow. Yeah. 61 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: We had on Tuesday's episode our first kind of evergreen 62 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: off format interview episode. I've heard it referred to as 63 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: the Daily Zeit Guest, that is the name of the 64 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: that episode format. We interviewed an astrophysicist who's looking for 65 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: intelligent extraterrestrial intelligence, and we also interviewed a Domino's delivery driver. 66 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: And I feel I feel like the Domino's delivery driver 67 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: broke the most news. 68 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. 69 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:53,119 Speaker 1: Way, we are doing new publication schedule. One episode today Friday, 70 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: one episode on Monday. The Monday episode sort of a 71 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: long trending episode, catch you up on the stuff you 72 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: missed over the weekend. Tuesday Mornings episode. We're interviewing experts. 73 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: We're interviewing you guys, mainly about your jobs. 74 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: So hit us up if. 75 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: You have some an interesting story from your job, if 76 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: you have a job that's more interesting that people realize, 77 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,679 Speaker 1: tell us why hit us at daily Zeitgeist on Twitter 78 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: or dm us in the discord, whatever. 79 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 2: Work wherever. Just tag us Instagram on whatever wherever. 80 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: Wow, Shakita, Okay, yeah yeah, Shakida, all right, but yeah, 81 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: we're looking forward to continuing to hear from and talk 82 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 1: to you, sick, sick motherfuckers. We are thrilled Miles to 83 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: be joined in our third seat. Very talented journalist, screenwriter, 84 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: soon to be director. You're the creator, executive producer and 85 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: host of the podcast Partition. 86 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: It's nausy. 87 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 3: Hie, I'm glad to be here. 88 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 2: How's h town at the moment? 89 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: Oh, Austin, what Miles calls? 90 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 3: Well, I'll try to. I'll try to get it. 91 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 2: Uh, we're keeping it all in, but I'm gonna do 92 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 2: it again. How is a town that's pretty good? 93 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 3: It's just getting unseasonably hot, and it's like not unseasonably 94 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 3: unseasonably for me, but it was like eighty degrees and 95 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 3: I was dying. So we'll see what the next three months. 96 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: Out here illogically irrationally hot, a heat that no person 97 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: should be expected to live in. 98 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 3: I agree. 99 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, we were. 100 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: We were doing comparing weather reports. Actually, l it's pretty 101 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: nice today. It's been like gray and. 102 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 2: A bit. Yeah, but we were. 103 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: We were saying that, like we're going to need to 104 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: start adding it to weather reports, Like where are we 105 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: on the apocalyptic scale? 106 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 2: Is it? 107 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: Are you like seven on that? 108 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 2: What? What? What's it looking like. 109 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: Outside your door? Where are we? 110 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 3: It's looking it's looking like a two. Like some of 111 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 3: the trees are slowly like moving in the breeze. It's 112 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 3: getting darker. 113 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh you got a storm coming. 114 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, we got a storm coming. There was thunder earlier. 115 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: In Los Angeles. 116 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:14,239 Speaker 2: We had a couple. 117 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fun. It is so wild when you hear 118 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: thunder in Los Angeles, You're like, what the folks that 119 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: what is not My kids who have never heard it 120 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: have questions. All right, now, how we're going to get 121 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, 122 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the 123 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: things we're talking about. We are going to talk about 124 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: how the media is reacting to the fact that, as 125 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: of yesterday, the sky in New York and much of 126 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 1: the Eastern Seaboard was bright orange. So Fox News just 127 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:52,239 Speaker 1: kind of pulled out their old playbook and started talking 128 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: about how, like telling people to wear masks in the 129 00:06:55,640 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: middle of a giant smoke storm is a left wing conspiracy. 130 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: They're just anti masks as a on principle. They don't 131 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: fuck with masks. 132 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 2: It was odd when they were with those firefighters and like, 133 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 2: why do you guys even wear respirators? 134 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 5: Yeah? 135 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 2: Exactly what. 136 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: This smells good to me? Don't you like the smell 137 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: wood smoke? Even the New York Times, you know, they 138 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: acknowledge that this is caused by climate change, but when 139 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: it comes to like who to blame. They had an 140 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: interesting story on the front page of the New York Times. 141 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: It was kind of like their big story with the 142 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: cool pictures and the cool like web design where you 143 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: clicked on it and it was like giant glowing embers. 144 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: And they put in the work and they want to 145 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: blame people who start them, the people who accidentally start 146 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: for as fires, and they're like they're the problem. 147 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 2: Wow. 148 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: So it's just interesting. I mean, that's definitely like, I'm 149 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: all for fire safety, but it was just it's just 150 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: interesting to see that being the main thing that they 151 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: focus their energy on. 152 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 2: Well, it's certainly not going to be their own sponsors, 153 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: right exactly? Can it be the colossal fuel industry? 154 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 4: Ah? 155 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 2: No, No, I mean there's climate change, but let's focus 156 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 2: on these people. 157 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: But who's to blame for these fires? Who can we 158 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: actually focus our anger on. Surely none of the executives 159 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: of the companies that pay us to create sponsored articles 160 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: for them. So we'll talk about that. We will bid 161 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: a not so fond adieu to Pat Robertson, human piece 162 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: of shit, garbage person who passed away, and we'll talk 163 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: about the upcoming Captain America reboot No longer is it 164 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: called Captain America New World Order? 165 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 2: Oh? But yeah, yeah, good, call. 166 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: All that plenty more. But first and now, how we 167 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: like to ask our guests, what is something from your 168 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: search history? 169 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 4: You know? 170 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 3: So last week I saw a film called Saint Omer 171 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 3: that's on Hulu and it was shortlisted for the Best 172 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 3: International Future Academy Award from France, and it's it's just 173 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 3: really riveting, so I feel like everyone should watch it. 174 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 3: But it's about a journalist novelist who is going to 175 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 3: a court case to see a woman who is accused 176 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 3: of murdering her kids. So it's very sad, but she's 177 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 3: like writing a book about it, and she's actually pregnant herself. 178 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 3: And that is based on an actual case that the 179 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 3: director witnessed that took place in France. So then I 180 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 3: was like looking at the real case. But then it 181 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 3: was like eleven forty five at night. Then I'm like, 182 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 3: I don't need to look at this right now. But 183 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 3: that was like one of those like rabbit holes that 184 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 3: I went to the last time I was on here 185 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 3: was like Anastasia and like Russian politicians, and like now 186 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 3: it's this murder case from right that's not funny, but I. 187 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 2: Left, No, I get it. No, I mean it's it 188 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 2: is always intriguing when you watch something and it is 189 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 2: there's any kind of real life connection because when I like, 190 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 2: if it's half interesting, I do the same thing. Now, yeah, 191 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 2: well what about the real actual thing? But so the 192 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: story is about a pregnant journalist who's covering a case 193 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 2: about a woman who killed her child. 194 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 3: Yes, because she's writing a book, got it that I 195 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 3: think or a novel that I think is like a 196 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 3: similar So it's like a. 197 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: Research And is this a journalist turned filmmaker? 198 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 3: This is a documentarian? 199 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 4: Yeah? 200 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 3: So she this is her first narrative feature. Yeah, but 201 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 3: she's made documentary for four Yeah. 202 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: And you are at the beginning of that journey, right, Yeah, 203 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: starting to cast. 204 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 3: A feature, a short film, maybe a feature in the. 205 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: Future eventually skipped a couple steps, but award winning feature eventually. 206 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 1: But yeah, a short film. 207 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: For now yet as a short film darling of the 208 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 2: festival circuit obviously, and then you make your way to 209 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 2: the top. 210 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 3: Yes, that's the dream, that's the goal. 211 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 2: I amazing. 212 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: What is something that you think is overrated? 213 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 3: I feel like I'm going to upset a lot of people. 214 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 2: Go ahead, So. 215 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 3: I saw Top Gun Maverick for the first time on 216 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 3: Memorial right, playing so good. Well, I'm about to disappoint 217 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 3: on Memorial day because the Alamo Draft House was playing 218 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 3: it and I missed it when it came out last year, 219 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 3: so I was like, whatever it's playing, I'll watch it, 220 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 3: and uh, it's a lot. I just like, I don't know. 221 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 3: I think it's just like Tom Cruise being Tom Cruise 222 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 3: and then like Miles Teller being like an anti vaxer 223 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 3: and then knowing these things and then watching this and 224 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 3: then there's so much Like I've only seen Top Gun 225 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 3: once in like a film class when I was seventeen, 226 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 3: so I haven't seen it, and like, like he was cool. 227 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 3: I don't remember his name, but I like. 228 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 2: Y'all got to see Top Gun. This is serious. 229 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 3: It was yeah, right after a Citizen Kane, right before 230 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 3: I don't. 231 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: Know, right before it was in the context of like 232 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: this is what American like Cold War anxiety problem, was 233 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: him just being like this is a sick film. 234 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 3: Also, again, grew up in Texas, so they're probably like 235 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 3: military history, like you know, it's just important. But I 236 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 3: think it was just like so like just so much 237 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 3: with like your dad would have been proud like all 238 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 3: of this stuff, and I'm like, all right, like let's 239 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 3: come down to much. But yeah, I mean it's fine. 240 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,719 Speaker 3: But everyone was just like when this film came out, 241 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 3: was like freaking the fuck out. And I think it's 242 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 3: because it was delayed for so long, because it's supposed 243 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 3: to come out in twenty twenty, and you know, I 244 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 3: think Steven Spielberg was like, you're saving film Tom Cruise 245 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 3: with your movie. I don't know, it was just it 246 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 3: was fine. 247 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: I feel like that was a paid statement. 248 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 249 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: I like I liked it, so I never like got 250 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: to the point where I was like, everybody needs to 251 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 1: shut the fuck up about this movie. Like everyone's freaking 252 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: out way too much. And like I saw it with 253 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: my wife and she like really enjoyed it. So I 254 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna, like, you know, tamp any of the enthusiasm down. 255 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: But like in retrospect, yes, it was like a solid 256 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: B plus and everyone was like, yo, they really didn't 257 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: saved the movies. 258 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, people were amped. And I'm just like, I. 259 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 2: Just remember Jack, you were like You're like, yes, it's 260 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 2: worth watching. You were kind of like it's fun, and 261 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 2: that was your assessmin It was like, it's it's fun. 262 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 2: And then I was like, Okay, maybe i'll catch it 263 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 2: on streaming. And then I just never got around. 264 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: Oh you never saw it? You never saw it in theaters? 265 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 2: Oh, Miles, you simply must. 266 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's why I did that, because I know 267 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 3: it's streaming on some network right right right, But I 268 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,719 Speaker 3: was like, okay, like my TV's thirty inches, you can 269 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 3: like see it behind me. I'm like, I'm like, I'm 270 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 3: gonna watch this in a theater. I'll at least give 271 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 3: it that, like, I'll watch it in that respect. 272 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 2: That's a film, that's the filmmaker respect right there. You're like, well, 273 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 2: I should see it on the big screen as it 274 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 2: was intended to be viewed. Y, Yeah, I mean should 275 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 2: I see it? Like what kind of shit? It's like 276 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 2: an airplane movie? Right, It's like, yeah, if you got 277 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 2: a minute, check it out. But like not like yo, 278 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 2: man making up this issappointment viewing. Yeah no, I mean 279 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 2: I already Yeah, it's a B plus for me. But 280 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 2: there's definitely like a lot of people have reacted to 281 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 2: it in a way, and it's not always like the 282 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 2: people who I you know, it's not just like people 283 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: who are like big fans of military or you know, 284 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 2: I know a lot of people who really like films 285 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 2: and like really loved that movie, and I think there's 286 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 2: part of us that's are all rooting for movies to 287 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 2: not go away. So I think there's some of that 288 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 2: like tied into it. But it's yeah, I can't be like, yo, 289 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 2: you need to catch this like by it by because 290 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 2: I knew some people were like it's awesome, and I 291 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 2: just I just don't know if like maybe it was 292 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 2: one of those films that was just really entertaining, because 293 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 2: I feel a lot of there's a there's like this 294 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 2: misconception of like something that's really entertaining and then being 295 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 2: like this is high art. 296 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a difference between entertainment and a good film, right, 297 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 3: And it's entertaining, sure, right, but there's also you know, 298 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 3: masculinity and you know, like we're gonna take this conversation 299 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 3: to the sky. I don't know, like vibe of just 300 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 3: like well, let like our like skills speak for themselves 301 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 3: type of thing. 302 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: And I'm like, like, there's only one way to settle 303 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: this dispute, exactly, take it. 304 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 2: To the sky. Take it to this take our dick 305 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 2: measuring contest to the sky. 306 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, fine, all right, sure. I personally think 307 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: the best part is like the very first like sequence 308 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: or like action sequence where you like see him and 309 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: he's like testing that like experimental aircraft. Like that part 310 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: I thought was cool, and everything after that felt like 311 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: it was almost exactly like what my brain had filled 312 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: in for a top sequel. Yeah, all right, well put 313 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: on the list, what's a what's something that you think 314 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: is underrated? 315 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 3: So just kind of looking at all the stuff with 316 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 3: this new Marvel film. Uh, there was a film that 317 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 3: I saw that I think a lot of people haven't seen. 318 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 3: Premiered as a Toronto International Film Festival in twenty twenty one, 319 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 3: and I programmed it for the Cleveland International Film Festival 320 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 3: last year, and it's on Netflix and it's called Fara 321 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 3: and it is about it's a Palestinian coming of age 322 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 3: story and it takes place during the Nekba in the 323 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 3: nineteen forties, and it's just very good and I just 324 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 3: I feel like it got a lot of like I'm 325 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 3: not gonna say there was controversy. There was controversy if 326 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 3: you're a Zionist and you had a problem with this crazy. 327 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 2: You're trying to humanize these people, Yes. 328 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's it's I think a really great film 329 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 3: that I think everyone should see because it's just like 330 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 3: and it's from a it was Jordan's international pick for 331 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 3: best Picture for their International future Oscar, and it's really good. 332 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 3: Like so it's on Netflix. It's just very well done. 333 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 2: How do you spelled the title? 334 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 3: I think it's f A R A H. There's a 335 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 3: couple of variations of how you can spell farah. 336 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 2: Yeah right right right, yeah, man, Wait, what were you 337 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 2: saying about in relation to Marvel? You mentioned some of 338 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 2: the marve. We're just saying that Marvel's just taking up 339 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 2: the oxygen. 340 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 3: Well no, I think there was like a like a 341 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 3: character that was like like an Israeli copy. 342 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 2: We're going to get to that. 343 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so that's part of the Captain America. 344 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 3: Oh right, right right, Like seeing that, I was like, okay, wow, 345 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 3: let me talk about this, yeah right. 346 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 2: Rather than a former Massad agent mutant, how about a 347 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 2: human being who's living. 348 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 1: Are you ever former Massade or CIA or are you 349 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 1: always just kind of you know, doing doing the work 350 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: behind the scenes. I feel like that, yeah, former or current, 351 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: which is pretty wild for mar to be like, it's 352 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 1: a massagage. I was Captain Cia, Yeah, partner, Yeah, it's 353 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: a wild I was with somebody who's like, yeah, my 354 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: dad was in the CIA and was like all like 355 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: happy about it. 356 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 2: And I was kind of like, yo, like doing what 357 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 2: He's like, I remember that but like in the eighties, 358 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 2: like yeah, like in Latin America and stuff. And I 359 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 2: was like, no, why are you smiling? He's like I 360 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 2: never saw him, but he was like like, we's got 361 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 2: some cool stories. You should talk to him. I'm like, yeah, 362 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 2: maybe he should talk to the fucking Hague. 363 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, and now there's no alternative to hyper capitalism because 364 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: he killed people. 365 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 2: It was so sick man. 366 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: Basically what happened was like instead of like using immunism 367 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,199 Speaker 1: like as a pressure point, we were using like you know, 368 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: predatory loans from the World Bank. 369 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 2: And it was really cool. 370 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 6: Man. 371 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: Anyway, all right, well let's take a quick break and 372 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: we'll come back and we'll talk about these these dang wildfires. 373 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 2: We'll yeah back and we're back. 374 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: And Fox News I think had a bunch of anti 375 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: mask like chirons like on screen over the shoulder graphics 376 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 1: that they didn't get to use during the pandemic somehow, 377 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: because they are bringing it back. They're doing with wildfire smoke. 378 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: What they did with COVID and calling public health advice 379 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: to wear masks, masks and stay inside a left wing conspiracy. 380 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: What is the conspiracy exactly? 381 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 2: That's the point. You can't just be like, they want 382 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 2: you to take care of yourself. That's a conspiracy. Okay, 383 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 2: they're conspiring to do what through this? I don't know. 384 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: It's a great question, because they're Their theory of the 385 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 1: case always seemed to be they're making a bigger deal 386 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: about COVID than it really is to hurt Donald Trump. 387 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 1: And it's somehow, even though every other country was making 388 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: a bigger deal of it than we were, the fact 389 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: that it was inconvenient for Donald Trump, that it was 390 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: extra work, right, They're like, he already has so much work. 391 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: Was all part of a conspiracy, I guess. 392 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 2: Okay. 393 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: The difference here, obviously is that they don't kill anyone 394 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 1: else by not wearing a mask, which is, you know, 395 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: a nice benefit. But they are you know, talking to 396 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: a elderly audience, you know, and telling them that masking 397 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: is part of a conspiracy to contry troll you to 398 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 1: nobody really knows what. Stay home and watch more Fox News. 399 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 1: I think I think sub subsistence wages are a way 400 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 1: to control you. 401 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. That's just my theory, because then 402 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 2: what's your alternative if you don't do that. Anyway, I 403 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 2: don't know anything about coersion, their financial and whatever whatever. Okay, 404 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 2: it's the masks. It's the masks. Thank god for Fox News. Yeah, 405 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 2: for sure, for sure. So they have like experts on 406 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 2: to Yeah, so they invited Steve molloy on to discuss 407 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 2: this matter in particular. 408 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: He is a climate scientist. Oh sorry, no, he's a 409 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: former cigarette and coal lobbyist. 410 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 2: How they want. 411 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 1: To to speak specifically on behalf of smoke, big smoke. Okay, 412 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: a lot of people have been hard on carcinogenic smoke 413 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 1: past couple of days. We need to get the other 414 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: side of this issue, right, right right, he said, of 415 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 1: the smoke, this doesn't kill anybody, This doesn't make anybody cough. 416 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: This is not a health event. Just keep telling them 417 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: that and maybe that'll be true. 418 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 2: I just I love it. It's from a guy whose 419 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 2: job it was to tell people to not worry about 420 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 2: the smoke, Like where even though it's scientifically proven, like 421 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 2: whether you're mining coal or you live near a coal 422 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 2: fired plant, like the health outcomes and all these being 423 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 2: a cigarette smoke and he's like, no, that's not a 424 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 2: health event, man, all right, can we move on? All right? 425 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 2: Did my check? Okay, great, thank you? 426 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: Third times, Like it's not like he can't be wrong 427 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: about smoke being a risk to people's health. Okay, three 428 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: times in a row. He's like, all right, I was 429 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: wrong about the cigarettes, y'all got me there. And I 430 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: was wrong about the coal. Yeah, yeah, that's not me, 431 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 1: that's not me, but the wildfires. But yeah, it does 432 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: like raise it. I mean, yeah, there's nobody specifically funding 433 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: the wildfires. Like he's not speaking on half a big wildfire. 434 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: I guess it's just all part of an attempt to 435 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: tamp down as we'll see any finger pointing specifically at 436 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 1: fossil fuel companies. 437 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 2: But sure, so. 438 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: Just you know, to in case you you were believing 439 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 1: the coal and cigarette lobbyist. A twenty twenty one study 440 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: found that thirty three thousand people a year die from 441 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: pollution caused by wildfire smoke, Like, not just pollution in general, 442 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: that number is astronomically high. 443 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 2: Just wildfire smoke. 444 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: Thirty three thousand people a year die from that. 445 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, Yeah. 446 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: And then part of the reason why wearing a mask 447 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: is being suggested and not mandated, by the way, is 448 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: because the health risks are long term ones. They're they're 449 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: not a thing that will show up necessarily like right away. 450 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 2: Which that's gold for Fox News, you know what I mean. 451 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 2: If it doesn't affect you right this minute, then they 452 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 2: can be like, it doesn't even matter, dude. Watch, I'm 453 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 2: holding this your like plutonium rod. Look, I'm rubbing on 454 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 2: my face. It it's not doing anything to me. See 455 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 2: maybe in like maybe three weeks from now and be fucked, 456 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 2: but right now, all good, all good. You see you 457 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 2: don't wear a mask. Jesus. 458 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a history of people doing like really harmful 459 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,719 Speaker 1: things with like somebody with like leaded gas. They were like, 460 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: I'll wash my hands in this leaded gas and I'll 461 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: be fine, and then they got like incredibly sick, like 462 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: right after doing that. But yeah, multiple Fox News hosts 463 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: have claimed that the smoke is totally fine because they 464 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 1: went for a walk and don't feel a thing. So 465 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: that's the level of scientific rigor that they're bringing to it. 466 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 2: Oh beautiful, I know. Even like Laura Ingram on her 467 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 2: show had like another just creature of the coal industry 468 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 2: on and like it's funny. She even conceded that the 469 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 2: smoke was fucking her up. But then she's like, but 470 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 2: it's not an issue, right. It was like a very 471 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 2: odd here, I'll play this moment because it's weird to see. 472 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,959 Speaker 2: Like even on Fox she was even coppy into the 473 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it kind of fucking me up, but 474 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 2: it's all good, right. 475 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 7: Ah there it is going back to the beginning of 476 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 7: the show, right, the inevitable intersection of climate and race. 477 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 7: If you don't agree with Bill, at some point, they 478 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 7: are going to call you a white supremacist. Joining me now, 479 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 7: Steve malloy, Senior legal fellow at the Energy and Environment 480 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 7: Legal Institute and Trump Era Transition Team member, Steve No 481 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 7: one's denying it is unpleasant. My eyes are pretty itchy 482 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 7: and watery yesterday and a little bit today, and it 483 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 7: might go on for a couple more days. But is 484 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 7: this wholly out of the ordinary? 485 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 2: I just like that. She starts off being like, yeah, man, 486 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 2: that's fucking my eyes up pretty bad. You know, obviously 487 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,360 Speaker 2: maybe for the next couple of days, but this is fine, right, 488 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 2: And the guy's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, like he basically 489 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 2: like it's totally normal. All right, thanks, Laura, I'm off, 490 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 2: but yeah, it's uh, they got to do everything they 491 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 2: can to just they have to be so nonchalant about 492 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 2: the air quality in order to obscure the impacts of 493 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 2: climate change because they can't cop They cannot There's no 494 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 2: way they can acknowledge that the smoke is bad, because 495 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 2: that would be an indirect way of saying this shit 496 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 2: is actually bad that we're experiencing on the planet, like 497 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 2: the situation around us is bad. They cannot ever ever 498 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,360 Speaker 2: admit that, so it has to always be oh man, 499 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 2: they wearing masks as AOC's the snow. Whatever the fuck 500 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 2: it is, right, They're just putting so much energy into 501 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 2: this shit. It's like, lor are you even though? 502 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: But okay whatever, and her to her question, this is 503 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: this really out of the ordinary? New York City recorded 504 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: its worst ever air quality Wednesday. 505 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 2: Ever when like this month, no, no, no, yeah, yeah, 506 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 2: usually ever just means this month. 507 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: In the history of New York, a city that like 508 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: we look at the pictures of New York in the past, 509 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 1: it's just like, you know, but it's very hazy with 510 00:26:55,520 --> 00:27:00,160 Speaker 1: air pollution, and you know, covered in horseshit and not 511 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: not the cleanest looking place in the world, like like 512 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: you know, the little kids who are working the factories 513 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 1: all have like black lung and this beat all that 514 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 1: ship you know. 515 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,439 Speaker 2: Right, who are so noha? Who are you gonna blame 516 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 2: in this in the smoke? Is it climate change? Or 517 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 2: is it Canada? Because we're also seeing that, Oh yeah, 518 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 2: blame Oh. 519 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 3: But weren't they caused by like lightning? 520 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, arrest the lightning. Yeah. 521 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 3: You know, there's so many things I'm gonna I think 522 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 3: I want to go with a climate change because that's 523 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 3: what makes sense. 524 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 8: And actually the truth alarmist alarmist is like, what's what's 525 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 8: the big sort of like the closest thing that happens 526 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 8: like in Austin or in your community that you're like, oh, 527 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 8: that's climate change, and then other people like, no, that's 528 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 8: this other thing. 529 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 3: Oh God, I don't know. I feel like the well, 530 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 3: I guess like all the crazy snowstorms we've had so 531 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 3: which I saw is part of the paint with Barby 532 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 3: and yeah, like we gets snowed, I think again in 533 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,479 Speaker 3: February and I lost my electricity for four days and 534 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 3: then it's just yeah, like for four days. It wasn't 535 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 3: as bad as like that twenty twenty one storm. But 536 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 3: I mean, like it always snows here. I mean it's 537 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:30,479 Speaker 3: not like a pretty like you know, like New England snow. 538 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 3: But yeah, it shouldn't. Yeah, we shouldn't be like freaking 539 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 3: out just because of like there's ice on the road 540 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 3: and then like everything like goes to hell. But it's 541 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 3: also because of our grid that is connected to the 542 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 3: rest of the country, which I did not know until 543 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 3: that massive snow snow from twenty twenty one. 544 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, and how like terribly privatized it basically is. 545 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, to avoid paying taxes. 546 00:28:55,960 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, both problems caused by deregulate the energy industry, 547 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: which has worked beautifully. Over at Newsmax, we finally get 548 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: a voice of reason on the right. 549 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 2: The hosts are weirdly. 550 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: Kind of horny for the smoke and also like no 551 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: big deal, MBD think it kind of smells good. 552 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 9: Yeah, arn smug here in New York City. Have you 553 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 9: heard many cities on the East Coast primarily have this 554 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 9: big blanket of ron smug right over the top of it. 555 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,959 Speaker 9: Our woke friends to the north in Canada there forest 556 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 9: fires got out of hand, and well, this is what 557 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 9: we're dealing with. It's complicating some people's lives, but it's manageable. 558 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 9: I'll tell you. It actually smells like wood smoke. It's 559 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 9: not an unpleasant odor, to be honest. It's kind of 560 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 9: weird when it seeps into the building. But outdoors, I 561 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 9: can deal with it. Folks with respiratory issues though, that's 562 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 9: a real thing, a real complication. The White House is 563 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 9: trying to, I like to deploit this saying it's all. 564 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 2: Really did He was like, hey, man, but if you 565 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 2: got a respiratory issue, man, that might you Well. 566 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: That must suck anyways, moving along. 567 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 3: Seeping into the buildings, But that's fine. 568 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's a little weird when you can like, 569 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 2: it smells like wood smoke, yeah, because it's from a 570 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 2: fucking forest fire. It's it's a millions of wood smoke. Motherfucker. 571 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 2: What are you talking. 572 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: And he also goes on in that clip to say 573 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: that it's pretty and beautiful. I think, yeah, so he's yeah, which, 574 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: by the way, like he's next two images that look 575 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: like they are like after a horrible like bombing in 576 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: a in a war zone. 577 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but this is the beautiful aura. Like I 578 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,479 Speaker 3: think it's great that he used the word aura. 579 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is like calm aura over the city. I 580 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 2: really like it. It's just made this is wild that 581 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 2: like if you're going, like how far are we from? 582 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,959 Speaker 2: When they're like, oh, this house that like this terrible 583 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 2: fire that burned up half a city that was beautiful, 584 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 2: that was great, you know what I mean, like to 585 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 2: like ex use away these things that are so obvious 586 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 2: in front of you, like it like oh god, the yeah, 587 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 2: you do get the mental gymnastics. 588 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, where we're headed with this shit, the 589 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: glimpse of where we're headed, but also like of the 590 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: the type of brain that like turns into an on 591 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: air anchor, like because remember like that Brian Williams clip 592 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: where it is like the beautiful majesty of our weapons 593 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: like this, oh, watching like missiles being launched right anyways, 594 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: At the New York Times, I mean, they're obviously overall 595 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: like they're not trying to claim the fires have nothing 596 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: to do with climate change. The articles always mentioned that 597 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: human induced climate change is the cause, but the biggest 598 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: article on the front page of their website at a 599 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: time when everybody like this is the main question on 600 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: I think a lot of Americans minds, specifically like people 601 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: in New York's minds. Is this like op ed from 602 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: somebody who's like in charge of fighting forest fires, and 603 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: they're just like, we need to stop putting up with 604 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: these dufices who start these fires. And then they're like, well, 605 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: not these fires. Actually these fires were caused by lightning strikes, 606 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: but a lot of the ones other fires are caused 607 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: by people being careless. And so she talks about like 608 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: how like when I look at like the devastation of 609 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: these forest fires and these wildfires, I get so angry 610 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: and then like really just goes in on. 611 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 2: A dirt bikers. 612 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, dirt bikers who like don't have the sparkrect spark yeah, 613 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: spark suppression on their vehicles or whatever, and it's it's 614 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: just like, yeah, get mad, like get mad at the 615 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: system and the companies that you know, we're aware of this, 616 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: didn't like paid for did research into this before the 617 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: rest of the world knew it was going to be 618 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: a problem. In the eighties, we're like at the forefront 619 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: of the research and then we're like, uh, we're going 620 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: to actually pretend it's not a thing, and let you 621 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: guys find out about it on your own. And you know, 622 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: like that would be a great place to look to 623 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: four consequences instead of the people who are doing the 624 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: same things they were doing in the eighties and now 625 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: it is causing Hey, they. 626 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 2: Weren't doing gender reveals like this Jack in the Ages. 627 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 2: That's true. 628 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: That's true. 629 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 2: So you know what, man, that's that's on them. I 630 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 2: just love this shit that we're they're going the plastic 631 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 2: straws route on climate change with these people. Yeah, it's 632 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 2: on y'all. Y'all need to stop this ship. You knock 633 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 2: this shit off because it ain't the fucking massive place. 634 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 2: So it's not that it's y'all, okay, these damn dirt 635 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 2: bikes has nothing to do with my friends at Excellent Moobile. Nothing. 636 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: It's kind of smart because the main focus is like 637 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: behave like these actions by people who are clearly not 638 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: New York Times readers, Like New York Times readers aren't 639 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: going out and like riding dirt bikes through the wilderness 640 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: with sumptuous sparks shooting after them, or like one of 641 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: the people who started one of the forest fires in 642 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: La or in Californa was like a father and son 643 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: who like went out shooting in the woods. Right, So 644 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: it's like stuff that like obviously, I'm like, yeah, that'd 645 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: be real easy to stop. And you know, it's really 646 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: easy for everyone to look down upon who like isn't 647 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 1: born to that culture obviously, but uh it's and yeah, 648 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 1: don't don't do that shit. I'm all for fire safety, 649 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: but it does feel like a strategic effort to be 650 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: to like put a singular individual out in front instead 651 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: of you know, companies and decisions made a long time 652 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: ago by these companies who are trying hard, as will 653 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 1: show you in this paid sponsored news Blend article that 654 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,320 Speaker 1: we're about to publish and link off too at the 655 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 1: end of this you know, yeah. 656 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 2: It's it's so, it's so yeah whatever, I mean it. 657 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 2: This is what they have to do because it's like 658 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,760 Speaker 2: the people know, people ingest the writings and the posts 659 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 2: of the New York Times, and so if you read that, 660 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 2: then someone is more likely to go and have a 661 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 2: conversation about that, which is like I read this thing 662 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 2: in the New York Times that they actually said that 663 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 2: like there's a lot of this could be prevented if 664 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 2: people didn't have you know, gender reveal parties in the 665 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 2: woods or put spark suppressors on their dirt bikes, rather 666 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 2: than if it was constantly saying it's these fucking companies. Yeah, 667 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 2: they are the ones who are fucking murdering everybody. But 668 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 2: because it's a quote company and we're treating this like 669 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,240 Speaker 2: amorphous thing because it generates capital, that we can't somehow 670 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 2: hold it responsible. So let's avoid that conversation and just 671 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 2: move to the finger pointing to the dumb dums who 672 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 2: like to shoot their guns off in the forest. 673 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, The New York Times is part of the that 674 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 1: side of you know, they are a mouthpiece for the 675 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: whole like democratic and like corporate entities and the enemy 676 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 1: of like their readers are hillbillies, so like you know, 677 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 1: in their reader's mind there, so let's blame hillbillies. Let's 678 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: find a way to make this about, you know, hating 679 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: mega people. 680 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's urban versus grarian all over again. Yes, exactly. Yeah, 681 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 2: tale's oldest time. 682 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,800 Speaker 1: Tale, as old as time. I think that's how the 683 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: rest of that song went. 684 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 2: Urban versa grarian. 685 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: I mean, Belle was very urbane. She wasn't urban, but 686 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 1: she was like I read books and you guys are 687 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,359 Speaker 1: idiots and you do the same shit over and over 688 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: every day, and I'm fucking. 689 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 2: Tired of it. So meet my dog man boyfriend, and 690 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 2: I'm into this guy. 691 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 3: And I also got with my kidnapper and. 692 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 2: Not kidnapping, like hey, but he gave me a nice dress. 693 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 694 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 2: That so I can't say the treatments that bad being 695 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 2: kidnapped by this man. But it's wild too, like because 696 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 2: along with that, like there's this sort of there's like 697 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 2: this republican or conservative sort of worldview. Right, it's like 698 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 2: so fatalistic about everything, that's where there's no point in 699 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 2: trying to do anything about. It's like they're like, who 700 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 2: cares about unhoused? Who cares about people being fucking slaughtered 701 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 2: or living in an apartheid state or child I'm going 702 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:14,839 Speaker 2: to heaven. 703 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:15,800 Speaker 1: I've been saved. 704 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. So on Fox and Friends earlier this week, host 705 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 2: Rachel campost Duffy aka to elder millennials, Rachel from the 706 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,479 Speaker 2: Real World, San Francisco. Okay, that season with Pedro and Puck, 707 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 2: if you remember that very I can't believe this. Oh yeah, 708 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 2: Rachel Camp. She was because she was the conservative on 709 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 2: that real world San Francisco crowd because she was from 710 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 2: Arizona and she was always like being like, what the 711 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 2: fuck am I doing in San Francisco? 712 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:43,800 Speaker 1: What year was this? 713 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,879 Speaker 6: This was ninety e one is like the second season. Yeah, 714 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 6: this is like yeah, this was this was a round 715 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,439 Speaker 6: but I was one. Okay, okay, credit to you, credit 716 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 6: to you. Well then you should have been watching. 717 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think. 718 00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 3: We had a TV in Pakistan at that time. 719 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:07,760 Speaker 2: Okay, well they have it now now, huh so uh anyway, 720 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 2: and also her last name is Duffy because she married 721 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 2: a dude from Road Rules. Okay, that's like her anyway. 722 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 2: And then she became this like maga conservative on TV. 723 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 2: She wasn't talking directly about the fires earlier this week, 724 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 2: but her words definitely again they portray this like fatalistic 725 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,359 Speaker 2: worldview that comes along with being like one of these 726 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 2: Christian nationalists, the idea that you know, I don't give 727 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 2: a fuck about Earth because Heaven. 728 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 5: Sometimes, you know, we look at how hard on the 729 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 5: left they play, They really play for keeps, they play 730 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,320 Speaker 5: in a way that's very you know a lot of 731 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 5: times conservatives look at and go, why don't we play 732 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 5: as hardness nound well for them where we live right now, 733 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 5: this place earth is it? 734 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:52,399 Speaker 3: So everything on the line here for them, they think, 735 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,320 Speaker 3: as you said, they can perfect this earth. Those of 736 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 3: us who have faith don't believe that. 737 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 4: And we believe how we act here determine where we 738 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 4: go after and so we had to behave and so 739 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 4: even in politics we don't you know, we act within 740 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 4: those moral limits and you know, the ends justify the 741 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 4: means is sort of the rules for radicals. 742 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 2: Right, I'm so lost the way, like it was such 743 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:24,319 Speaker 2: a contradiction upon like strong man arguments't too much there. 744 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 1: So so that's why they're so kind in right, because 745 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 1: because we believe what we do on earth terms where 746 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 1: fuck earth, But what we do here determines it. 747 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 2: That's why we want to pollute it to shit. We 748 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 2: want to completely harass other people and villainize them, you know, 749 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 2: not be kind or caring. I don't know what the 750 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 2: golden rule is because I have not actually read the Bible, 751 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 2: but I do like to use like I like to 752 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 2: evoke the Bible for my own lack of morals, I guess. 753 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 2: But yeah, that's where they are these It's like the 754 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:02,800 Speaker 2: same way, like this is kind of the worldview like 755 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 2: in the Cold War, right, like people were like, well, 756 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 2: the Soviets aren't gonna blow the world up because they 757 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 2: believe this is it. There's no afterlife, like we believe 758 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 2: or whatever, you know what I mean. Like it's just 759 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 2: a very weird thing. Like the enemy has no God. 760 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 2: That's why they are here wanting to perfect the earth. 761 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,320 Speaker 2: And I'm sorry, that's a bad thing. We're trying to 762 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 2: be good custodians of this fucking little planet that we're 763 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 2: on for a brief fucking moment, and i'd most of 764 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 2: us are not. I'd hope most of us would rather 765 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,360 Speaker 2: not be contributing to like some fucking system of oppression 766 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 2: or pollution or degradation whatever. 767 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's I mean, it's acknowledging. Like it's actually 768 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 1: a pretty interesting point because she's she's basically saying, like 769 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 1: we believe in evil and like are just like can't 770 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,800 Speaker 1: beat evil, so you just gotta like kill it away, 771 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,800 Speaker 1: put it in prison, you know, like do all that stuff, 772 00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:01,800 Speaker 1: because there's no fixing these people, right, and that that 773 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 1: is a like it's kind of a good window into 774 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 1: how their minds work and how their worldview works. 775 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 2: And why they are really dangerous. The wild thing is 776 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,359 Speaker 2: the end of that quote where she said where said 777 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,359 Speaker 2: the ends justify the means is sort of the rules 778 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 2: for radicals. That it got cut off. She continues by saying, 779 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 2: that's not how Christians act. Oh really the whole Wow, 780 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,320 Speaker 2: how do we get here anyway? Don't worry about it? 781 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,319 Speaker 2: What's colonization at all? And whatever? Fine? Do you think 782 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 2: do you think Rachel Campbell's stuff? Well, we'd go to break. 783 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 1: But we we do have to transition from that statement 784 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 1: that you know, Christians are are kind and don't believe 785 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 1: in ends justify the means to the passing of a 786 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:57,400 Speaker 1: man who embodied the opposite of that, Pat Robertson just 787 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 1: one of the worst people, garbage. The only people who 788 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 1: seem to be upset about his passing are people who 789 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 1: mistakenly thought that Robert Pattinson had died No, which yeah, 790 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 1: are there were there people who were like, I can't 791 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: believe it, or they're like they that's a joke. 792 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 2: He didn't die. 793 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 1: It was trending on Twitter. It is like the exact 794 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 1: opposite Pat Robertson. Robert Pattinson. 795 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 3: That's actually really funny. 796 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I hadn't connected them. But yeah, Robin Shadowcaster seventy 797 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,799 Speaker 1: eight said, my dyslexic ass thought this, said Robert Pattinson. 798 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, it's Patterson the Bad Ones. It's I 799 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 2: mean Rob roberts Robertson. 800 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, now you're doing it all right. So just a 801 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,800 Speaker 1: quick greatest hits of this piece of shit. So just 802 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 1: one thing that makes him like he was still being 803 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 1: followed by a lot of people up until the end, 804 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 1: or like watched by a lot of people, sent money 805 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:03,360 Speaker 1: by a lot of people. He was constantly predicting apocalypses 806 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 1: that never came, just throughout his life, Like in nineteen 807 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 1: seventy six, he said the world was going to end 808 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty two, so he thought the rapture was 809 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 1: going to come before Return of the Jedi. 810 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:13,399 Speaker 2: Ever came out. 811 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 1: Nineteen ninety he wrote a book claiming the world was 812 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 1: going to end in two thousand and seven. Just kept 813 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,360 Speaker 1: predicting the end of the world right up until twenty twenty, 814 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 1: when he said that Trump was going to win the 815 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 1: election oops, and an asteroid was going to destroy us all. 816 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 1: So again, just a I don't know, interesting insight into 817 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 1: how the minds of the people who who follow him operate, 818 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 1: which is I guess very forgiving. 819 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 2: Well, if the world's going to end, then you know, 820 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 2: all good. Yeah, that motivates you to be like, that's 821 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,400 Speaker 2: why I'm in this corner because the world about to end. 822 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 2: Are you saved? Yeah? Oh wait, what happens? It just 823 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,399 Speaker 2: it's just silence after you pass away. 824 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 1: And then he blamed horrific tragedies on things he just 825 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 1: didn't like. So one week after nine eleven, he and 826 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,719 Speaker 1: Jerky fall Well got together to say that God had 827 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,759 Speaker 1: allowed the terrorists to succeed because the United States had 828 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 1: become a nation of abortion, homosexuality, secular schools and courts, 829 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 1: and the American Civil Liberties Union. So the ACLU was 830 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 1: to blame for nine to eleven. 831 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Now, I mean he's always blamed. It's like 832 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 2: women or gay people, or Muslims or anybody who is 833 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 2: not cis white Christian. Like from there, it's like, oh yeah, 834 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 2: the Haitians. You know why they had that earthquake. It 835 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 2: is because they made a deal with the devil back 836 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:42,240 Speaker 2: when they fucking liberated themselves from slavery from the French. 837 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 2: This man really said that shit. He said they got 838 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 2: an earthquake because they made a deal with the devil 839 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 2: to liberate themselves from slavery. 840 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 9: Uh. 841 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 2: And we've only seen We've talked about this time and 842 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,840 Speaker 2: again about how the Western world has just fucking like 843 00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,400 Speaker 2: landed knockout blow after knockout blow on hate as like 844 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,800 Speaker 2: a response to them being like you are the you 845 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 2: were going to be the first and last group of 846 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 2: like subjugated people that will liberate themselves from colonizers, and 847 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,880 Speaker 2: we're gonna make a fucking example out of you for centuries. 848 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,359 Speaker 2: Is that it's not they made a deal with the devil. 849 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,399 Speaker 2: That's that's why. Yeah. Yeah. 850 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:21,320 Speaker 1: He repeatedly attacked Muslims, Islam, and the prophet Muhammad throughout 851 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,759 Speaker 1: the years and called the religion a monumental scam. And 852 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,600 Speaker 1: then I just want to compare that with his charity 853 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 1: work supporting Rwandan refugees in Ziere was actually a front 854 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 1: for his blood diamond mining operation. Like there's there's a documentary. 855 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,720 Speaker 2: Oh my god, what that couldn't be the You couldn't 856 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,759 Speaker 2: script something more fucking evil than that. 857 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:48,320 Speaker 1: So, according to Jesse Potts, who served as operations manager 858 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:55,480 Speaker 1: for a organization that was helping people after the genocide. 859 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety four, the charity stopped sending medical teams 860 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 1: to like one of the camps where refugees were being 861 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 1: held several weeks into the operation. And then the film 862 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:13,320 Speaker 1: that put all this together alleges that these resources, the donations, 863 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,680 Speaker 1: the cargo planes, et cetera, were used for the for 864 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:21,920 Speaker 1: profit African Development Company Limited, a diamond mining operation that 865 00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,840 Speaker 1: was headquartered in Kinshasa, while the mining site itself was 866 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,600 Speaker 1: located in a remote village nearby. Robertson was the sole 867 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:33,920 Speaker 1: shareholder and president of African Development Company Ltd. 868 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:40,480 Speaker 2: So rest piss you fucking loser. Yeah, fucking unbelievable. Yeah, 869 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,600 Speaker 2: and I mean like just like I remember he said 870 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 2: something about how like or Florida was gonna get hurricanes 871 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,880 Speaker 2: because Disneyland had like a gay like Pride night in 872 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 2: the nineties. Yeah, and it's like hurricanes hit fucking full Okay, yeah, 873 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,320 Speaker 2: go ahead, it's that too. It's that too, or like 874 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 2: eight like that. People that with HIV or aids like 875 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,880 Speaker 2: HIV's they were they were transmitting it to straight people 876 00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,399 Speaker 2: as like have a conspiracy. That's all this all these 877 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:09,200 Speaker 2: like the people like that, you know, this is I'm done. 878 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 2: I'm done. 879 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:11,919 Speaker 1: In a twenty thirteen segment on The seven hundred Club 880 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,919 Speaker 1: that he said that gay people have a secret ring 881 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,360 Speaker 1: that transmits HIV to unsuspecting people they shake hands with. 882 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:25,640 Speaker 1: His co host was like really, and he said, really really, 883 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,840 Speaker 1: it is that kind of vicious stuff, which would be 884 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,840 Speaker 1: the equivalent of murder. And then the following year he 885 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 1: warned warned that tals in Kenya could transmit eights. So 886 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:42,880 Speaker 1: he just oh, constantly just churning complete. 887 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:47,840 Speaker 2: And yeah, anti blackness, anti type like just homophobia, whatever 888 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,240 Speaker 2: he needs to do. One time he said, you shouldn't 889 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,480 Speaker 2: even adopt kids. Yeah, like that was he was like, 890 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,320 Speaker 2: had to take like that. He said, quote, you just 891 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 2: never know what's been done to a child before you 892 00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:03,840 Speaker 2: get that child. Yeah. Well man, okay, so you're so anyway, 893 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 2: it's just anyway, thank God if you're out there for 894 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,719 Speaker 2: taking him or I'm saying, Satan, thank you for reclaiming 895 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,200 Speaker 2: him and taking him down with you. I appreciate you, Satan. 896 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's take a quick break and we'll 897 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,520 Speaker 1: come back and talk about Captain America. We'll be right right, 898 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:36,600 Speaker 1: and we're back, and Captain America is back as well. 899 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,320 Speaker 1: The new Captain America movie. I mean it's it's in 900 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,600 Speaker 1: the works. I guess it's a reboot I checked out 901 00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 1: from the Marvel universe. But I think they had what 902 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,880 Speaker 1: happened to Chris, I don't know. I don't know if 903 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,520 Speaker 1: he was one of the ones that didn't make it 904 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:51,920 Speaker 1: out of it. 905 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,160 Speaker 2: I have no ideabout any other yeah either, I'm like, 906 00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 2: oh cool, like we got black Captain in America, all right, Okay, 907 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,080 Speaker 2: I don't want to need to ask about the last one. 908 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 1: So the new film was supposed to be titled Captain 909 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:11,839 Speaker 1: America New World Order, which that's a famous New World 910 00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,600 Speaker 1: Order is a famous right wing belief about a powerful, 911 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 1: usually Jewish, global cabal. And they were like, it has 912 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,279 Speaker 1: nothing to do with that stuff. It's simply about the 913 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,319 Speaker 1: new Captain America, Sam Wilson and how the world has 914 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,839 Speaker 1: changed around him and he's a changed man. So they've 915 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,040 Speaker 1: changed the title to Captain America, Where we go one, 916 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:33,920 Speaker 1: we go all? 917 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:40,400 Speaker 3: But how is like, how did they come up with 918 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:41,160 Speaker 3: something worse? 919 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:42,520 Speaker 9: No? 920 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:43,480 Speaker 2: I just made that up. 921 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:50,560 Speaker 1: They just went for an even more explicit that happen 922 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 1: like right, I was like, wow, yeah, sense they want 923 00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,160 Speaker 1: to say symbolize something about Avenger sticking together. So you 924 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,640 Speaker 1: know where we go one we go all just felt 925 00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:06,080 Speaker 1: like the right one A phrase they just came up with. No, 926 00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,920 Speaker 1: I forget what they changed it to. It's I think, 927 00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:12,160 Speaker 1: uh like Brave New World Act Brave New World. Yeah, 928 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,279 Speaker 1: that's right, it is. And there it's an Alvis Huxley. 929 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,719 Speaker 2: That's also about conspiracies but okay, or like you know, 930 00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:20,480 Speaker 2: the gateway to it. 931 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,680 Speaker 1: And then Marvel also decided to like balance out name 932 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:30,520 Speaker 1: checking an anti Semitic conspiracy with including a Zionist superhero, Sabra, 933 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:35,120 Speaker 1: a mutant Israeli police officer turned Massad agent. 934 00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:40,279 Speaker 2: That is the most horrifying concept of character right now. 935 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,080 Speaker 3: All of this sounds like things that are like spoofed 936 00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:44,120 Speaker 3: in a TV show that. 937 00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,000 Speaker 1: Like can't be right. 938 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,400 Speaker 2: It sounds like a character in The Boys, right, you 939 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,160 Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like there's like and then there's yeah, 940 00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,680 Speaker 2: who's like a mutant like Massad agent, and you're like, oh, no, 941 00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,000 Speaker 2: what do they do? What they get the status core? 942 00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:58,719 Speaker 2: Are they holding up? 943 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,759 Speaker 1: How do they they have this character and not talk 944 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:07,400 Speaker 1: about like the fascism of like Masad and like the 945 00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,560 Speaker 1: right in Israel, like how does that How do you 946 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,840 Speaker 1: even think that that's a possibility. Well, the name itself 947 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:18,080 Speaker 1: is a major problem. Sabra is a reference to the 948 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,880 Speaker 1: Sabra cactus, which became a symbol of loss and steadfastness 949 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:26,040 Speaker 1: to Palestinians following the bush's resilience during the Knockbahn in 950 00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:30,640 Speaker 1: nineteen forty eight and making it extra insensitive. In nineteen 951 00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,800 Speaker 1: eighty two, two years after the introduction of the Sabra 952 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,880 Speaker 1: character in Marvel Comics, the Israeli's massacred hundreds of people 953 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:42,000 Speaker 1: in two Palestinian refugee camps in Lebanon, one of which 954 00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:47,040 Speaker 1: was named Sabra. So people were like, yeah, maybe we don't. 955 00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:48,719 Speaker 2: Do What do you want to do with that? What 956 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,920 Speaker 2: do you want to do with that? Yeah? How are 957 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,759 Speaker 2: they like? They're like, don't worry, She's not gonna mention 958 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 2: Palestine in the movie, So just get over it. That's 959 00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:58,680 Speaker 2: how we're going to excuse it. 960 00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,719 Speaker 1: They tried to defend the backlash by claiming that the 961 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,840 Speaker 1: character of Sabra would be freshly imagined for the screen 962 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:10,200 Speaker 1: and today's audience, with the filmmakers taking a new approach. So, oh, 963 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe she'll just be the heiress to 964 00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,520 Speaker 1: the Sobra Hummus Empire or something. 965 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that would work. Yeah, it feels like they're like, oh, yeah, no, no, 966 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,440 Speaker 2: nothing like that. That's just her name because her family's 967 00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:26,640 Speaker 2: in the hummus business. That's all. That's all. Yeah. Like 968 00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,719 Speaker 2: the first the intro to the character is also just 969 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,759 Speaker 2: so grim too, Like it's like that like when they 970 00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,319 Speaker 2: created the characters, like they know better or like they 971 00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:39,719 Speaker 2: understand the geopolitical situation but also quite don't want to 972 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,040 Speaker 2: like wade into it fully. Yeah. Yeah. 973 00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:46,160 Speaker 1: Her first introductions in an Incredible Hulk comic and like 974 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,080 Speaker 1: has Hulk screaming at her for not giving a shit 975 00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:53,160 Speaker 1: about a literal dead Palestinian child. Like in the frame 976 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,080 Speaker 1: with her as she's being introduced. 977 00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,239 Speaker 2: It's this, boy died because boys people and yours both 978 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:03,040 Speaker 2: want to own land. Boy died because you wouldn't share, 979 00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:07,440 Speaker 2: and like the Hulk is in tears and boy died 980 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:11,160 Speaker 2: because of two old books that say his people and 981 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:17,319 Speaker 2: yours must fight and kill for land. And I don't know, yeah, 982 00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,839 Speaker 2: but I guess that did somewhat. I'll like, I don't 983 00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:23,960 Speaker 2: know get through to the character. But again they don't 984 00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,239 Speaker 2: even actually you know, they never actually refer to the 985 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:32,080 Speaker 2: child as like being Palestinian. Yeah, just arab assassins or terrorists. 986 00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,680 Speaker 2: That's like Jesus really didn't the child dies in a 987 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:40,200 Speaker 2: fight with arab assassins. In the context of the book, 988 00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,360 Speaker 2: you almost you almost did it, Kulk, you almost. With 989 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,680 Speaker 2: the writers of that one, you almost got there, You 990 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,320 Speaker 2: almost got there. Yeah, then you fell back on the 991 00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:49,080 Speaker 2: old habits. Huh. 992 00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,880 Speaker 1: So The Brave New World obviously a reference to Aldus 993 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:58,239 Speaker 1: Huxley's classic dystopian novel, which maybe not coincidentally, may have 994 00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,239 Speaker 1: helped to inspire the New World Order conspiracy theory. So 995 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,879 Speaker 1: they're like, we're not gonna like not touch it. We're 996 00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,799 Speaker 1: just gonna not explicitly like say that that's what we're 997 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:08,279 Speaker 1: doing here. 998 00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:12,960 Speaker 2: But I wonder who is like actually cast Oh it's 999 00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:17,400 Speaker 2: gonna be Israeli actress to Shira Haas. Okay, interesting. 1000 00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,000 Speaker 1: I hope she was a former Massade agent in order 1001 00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:22,440 Speaker 1: to kind of keep it like authentic. 1002 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,640 Speaker 2: But we'll see, we shall see. It's just I mean, 1003 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:30,239 Speaker 2: it's it's just so funny when like like comics like 1004 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,880 Speaker 2: sometimes they can have like a really good message, Like 1005 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:34,960 Speaker 2: when you know the writers are like trying to make 1006 00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:38,000 Speaker 2: a point, but it's so wild that frame where it's like, 1007 00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,600 Speaker 2: oh my god, you'll talk about the fuck you know 1008 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:44,560 Speaker 2: is the occupation? Please go off money And then you're like, 1009 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,800 Speaker 2: but then they were terrorists, you like, you wrote this, 1010 00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,000 Speaker 2: fucking wrote this. Then I say the CIA. 1011 00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:56,759 Speaker 1: Vaguely Arab assassins, which has something in common with top 1012 00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:00,920 Speaker 1: Gun Maverick, which is just like, it's not really yeah country, 1013 00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,480 Speaker 1: so to speak. It's more a collection of people who 1014 00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:08,359 Speaker 1: are trying to enrich plutonium, right right. We won't say 1015 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:09,200 Speaker 1: anyone's name. 1016 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,359 Speaker 2: But you guys get it. You know, maybe we had 1017 00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:12,960 Speaker 2: a deal with them. 1018 00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,799 Speaker 1: No mountainous region. I don't know if you're faking up 1019 00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:17,759 Speaker 1: taking down here. 1020 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:22,400 Speaker 10: Oh wait, turn on the radio and I ran, I 1021 00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:27,960 Speaker 10: ran so farway Okay, you guys get it all right? 1022 00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,839 Speaker 1: Well naha, such a pleasure having you as always. Where 1023 00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,920 Speaker 1: can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff? 1024 00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:34,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1025 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:38,960 Speaker 3: So people can find me on Instagram at Nahousie's and 1026 00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:43,759 Speaker 3: Twitter at Neyhouze's thirteen. You can find my podcast at 1027 00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:49,000 Speaker 3: nineteen forty seven pot on Twitter and Partition Podcast on Instagram. 1028 00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,880 Speaker 3: And the podcast is about the nineteen forty seven Partition 1029 00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:56,920 Speaker 3: of India and the formation of Podkistan, which celebrated it's 1030 00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:01,320 Speaker 3: seventy fifth anniversary last year. Well I don't think celebrating 1031 00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,759 Speaker 3: is the right word, but it was. It took place 1032 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,960 Speaker 3: only five years ago from last year, and you know, 1033 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,279 Speaker 3: I talked to my relatives. I was born in Pakistan, 1034 00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,080 Speaker 3: so it was just like a really interesting thing to 1035 00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:16,319 Speaker 3: delve into. And then you can find my film which 1036 00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:20,640 Speaker 3: we are making at the end of July, possibly early August. 1037 00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:26,680 Speaker 3: So that happened film on Instagram and we are still crowdfunding, 1038 00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:31,759 Speaker 3: so we miraculously got funded in three days. We got 1039 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,799 Speaker 3: fifteen thousand dollars, which is amazing. But now we're trying 1040 00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,960 Speaker 3: to spread our goal to twenty k because like fifteen 1041 00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:39,880 Speaker 3: k was like the bare minimum we could make this 1042 00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:43,080 Speaker 3: movie along with another grant that I got, and it's 1043 00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,160 Speaker 3: still going for two more weeks. So you can find 1044 00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:49,840 Speaker 3: all that information. So that happened film on Instagram. 1045 00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:51,520 Speaker 2: And also yeah, check web the link also for you 1046 00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,839 Speaker 2: in the footnotes, so you know click, yeah, yeah, get 1047 00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:55,080 Speaker 2: in on. 1048 00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,879 Speaker 1: Tradition so good, everybody should go check it out. Yeah, 1049 00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,000 Speaker 1: And is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? 1050 00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:05,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I actually use this film as like a 1051 00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:09,520 Speaker 3: reference for my film. It's called Past Lives. It is 1052 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:13,400 Speaker 3: so good, so beautiful. I saw it at Sundance. I 1053 00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,760 Speaker 3: saw it again last week because one of the film 1054 00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,320 Speaker 3: festivals I worked for in Austin, we did a advance 1055 00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,160 Speaker 3: screening with a twenty four at our local art house. 1056 00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,280 Speaker 3: And it's out in New York, it's out in California, 1057 00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:29,120 Speaker 3: and I think it is playing in Austin some other places. 1058 00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,440 Speaker 3: But it's kind of like a slow rollout. But it's 1059 00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:35,960 Speaker 3: written and directed by Selene's song she's playwright. And it's 1060 00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,160 Speaker 3: just kind of about like the things that I loved 1061 00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:42,400 Speaker 3: about relationships changing over time, kind of like where you 1062 00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:44,919 Speaker 3: are in your current life versus like what could happen 1063 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,400 Speaker 3: in the future, and like things in the past, like 1064 00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:49,840 Speaker 3: if you just like stayed in a certain place, like 1065 00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,160 Speaker 3: what world your life be like? And it's just so 1066 00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:57,000 Speaker 3: beautiful and and like the writing is so amazing, and 1067 00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,560 Speaker 3: I suggest, like everyone watch it. 1068 00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:00,479 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1069 00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,320 Speaker 1: I think it's just now opening wide, like yeah, and 1070 00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,200 Speaker 1: the I think it has the highest Metacritics score of 1071 00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:08,000 Speaker 1: like any movies. 1072 00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:09,240 Speaker 3: I don't doubt that. 1073 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:13,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's got a ninety two metacritics, crazy, amazing, Miles. 1074 00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,840 Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Is there a workimedia you've 1075 00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:18,080 Speaker 1: been enjoying? Uh? 1076 00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:22,360 Speaker 2: Twitter, Instagram at Miles of Gray Basketball Talk. That's Miles 1077 00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,720 Speaker 2: and Jack Got Mad. Boosty is our other podcast. And 1078 00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:26,000 Speaker 2: then if you want to hear me talk about ninety 1079 00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,200 Speaker 2: Day Fiance the other way or no before the ninety 1080 00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,560 Speaker 2: Days which just aired, check me out on four to 1081 00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:35,200 Speaker 2: twenty Day Fiance with Sophia Alexandra. I don't really have 1082 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:38,600 Speaker 2: a work on media again. I've I just I finished 1083 00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,160 Speaker 2: that show Siren because all the episodes all came out 1084 00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:42,920 Speaker 2: this week and I had to watch it to its conclusion. 1085 00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:46,720 Speaker 2: So I'm just kidding on that. Another work of Korean media. Actually, 1086 00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:47,880 Speaker 2: there you go. 1087 00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:51,200 Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien 1088 00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:55,360 Speaker 1: a tweet I've been enjoying at fans since O nine tweeted, 1089 00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,760 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know why Tar can't be in 1090 00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,920 Speaker 1: the next Fast and Furious movie. Just have them go 1091 00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:04,360 Speaker 1: to our Long Island childhood home and she's like, well, well, well, 1092 00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,640 Speaker 1: Dominic Toretto and it turns out she's been holding a 1093 00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:09,480 Speaker 1: super car for him and hurt garage. 1094 00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:11,120 Speaker 2: I think it's a good idea. 1095 00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:16,280 Speaker 1: It makes sense to me. You can find me on 1096 00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,600 Speaker 1: Twitter at Jack Underscore O Brian. You can find us 1097 00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,360 Speaker 1: on Twitter at daily Zeitgeist. We're at v daily Zeikeeist 1098 00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,040 Speaker 1: on Instagram. We have a Facebook fanpage and a website 1099 00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:26,560 Speaker 1: Daily zekeist dot com, where we post our episodes and 1100 00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,600 Speaker 1: our footnote or link off to the information that we 1101 00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,280 Speaker 1: talked about in today's episode, as well as a song 1102 00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,520 Speaker 1: that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what's the song 1103 00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:36,760 Speaker 1: do you think people might enjoy? 1104 00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:39,920 Speaker 2: We're gonna go out on some French rap. This is 1105 00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,320 Speaker 2: Prince Wally okay, w a l y and the track 1106 00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,320 Speaker 2: is called Balotelli, like Mario Balotelli is a soccer player 1107 00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,320 Speaker 2: and it's Dope's just I don't know, Like whenever I 1108 00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:50,880 Speaker 2: hear a French rap, I don't know what they're saying, 1109 00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,600 Speaker 2: but it sounds cool. So let me know if if 1110 00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:55,760 Speaker 2: you've a francophone and you're like, oh no, you don't 1111 00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:57,160 Speaker 2: want to be you don't want to be singing this song, 1112 00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:59,760 Speaker 2: but anyway, the beat is cool, So check out Baloatelli 1113 00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:05,080 Speaker 2: by Prince Wally. Mario not to be confused with Mario Batali, 1114 01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:10,440 Speaker 2: No no, Mario Balatelli, who is a ganane Italian soccer player, 1115 01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,920 Speaker 2: much cooler than much after. He's actually kind of a 1116 01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:16,600 Speaker 2: like he was a wild he was a wild figure 1117 01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:18,360 Speaker 2: like Dana was one of those players who was like 1118 01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:21,400 Speaker 2: had a lot going for him and then his personality 1119 01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:23,240 Speaker 2: just led him to self destruct his own career. 1120 01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:23,960 Speaker 4: There you go. 1121 01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:27,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, but anyway, we've seen it all before. All right, Well, 1122 01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:29,720 Speaker 2: The Daily Zeike is a production of iHeart Radio. 1123 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,320 Speaker 1: For more podcast from my Heart Radio, visit the iHeartRadio 1124 01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,840 Speaker 1: ap Apple podcast or wherever you listen your favorite shows. 1125 01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:36,680 Speaker 1: That is going to do it for us this week. 1126 01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:40,880 Speaker 1: We are back on Monday early ish in the afternoon 1127 01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:44,320 Speaker 1: to tell you what's trending, what you missed over the weekend, 1128 01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,320 Speaker 1: and we will talk to you all then fight bye.