WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Big Week 1 Questions 0:00:02.240 --> 0:00:04.800 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.840 --> 0:00:16.640 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This this he's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:19.960 springing live from the Dallas Cowboys World head Hours at 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:31.200 the Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Bruns, 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:36.000 Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones. Good morning from the Star 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:40.680 in Frisco. Welcome to Talking Cowboys inside the SWBC Mortgage studio. 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:44.880 Rob Phillips, joined by Brian brought us across the table 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:47.440 from me and man, the attrician on the show keeps 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:49.760 piling up. Man, what you get when you're dealing with 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:53.560 a bunch of old men, you know. So I will 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:56.920 say this though, and you know that's it. It's uh, 0:00:57.320 --> 0:00:59.160 it's nice though that you could. You know, we were 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:01.960 talking about, hey, we're not gonna have Bill for this time. Mickey, 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:04.920 you know, is dealing with some things and and you 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:06.480 know it's like, well, can we do the show just 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:08.920 a two man show? And I'm like, yeah, let's we 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:11.720 do two man show for half the show half the show. 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:16.480 Yea studio at some point, yeah, yeah, he's got TV obligations. 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:19.160 Mickey's still out, So we've got a couple empty chairs. 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:21.440 So yeah, we're good. Now we'll figure it out. We 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:23.560 have so much to talk about it. We do, we do. 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:25.800 It's got a game week, as they always say, Yeah, 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:29.080 for the first time in uh almost nine months, this 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:33.000 is a practice day for the regular season. Yeah, Cowboys 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:35.119 on a Wednesday, get practice day too. By the way, 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:37.000 a big one. Why is that? Well? You know, and 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:38.880 I mean you interrupt you there, but I was gonna 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:41.920 give it a little emphasis on this, uh this practice 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:45.280 day because the first week you kind of want to 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:47.880 figure out where guys are gonna play or who's going 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:50.640 to play. And then the Rico Gathers story. We've talked 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:53.560 about that him, Dalton Scholtz. Who's going to get the 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:56.760 most reps? There? You know, how the wide receiver rotation's 0:01:56.760 --> 0:02:00.200 gonna work? You know, I mean we kind of any 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:02.120 camp it was it didn't seem like we were able 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:04.960 to get any type of a pattern to how things 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:07.160 were going to work out. A receiver, who's going to 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:09.760 be the starter? Where's hey, where does you know where 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:12.760 does Michael Gallup fit into this? Is he going to 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:14.720 be a starter for Terrence Williams that they could open 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:17.799 eleven personnel? You know, there's all kinds of things. This 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:20.360 is now the first week we'll see Ezekiel Elliott. I 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:22.320 mean he's looked good in training camp and all that, 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:26.000 but hasn't No, not one opponent's hand has been laid 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:29.000 on him, you know this time. So a lot of 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:34.840 really interesting stories, storylines going into the first week. You know, 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:37.560 the questions about the safety spot, how they're going to 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:42.359 practice safety, is a campbell? The new guy gonna be over, 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:46.440 say Robinson? You know, I mean, there's there's just so 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:48.880 many things that you kind of kind of keep an 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:51.079 eye on it. Practice. They only give us twenty five minutes. 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:52.560 It's not like we get to go out there and 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:55.000 stand there for the whole day and say, oh, this 0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:57.120 is what they're gonna do. But you know, there were 0:02:57.200 --> 0:03:00.880 some indications how special teams line up. So I just 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:02.600 kind of went through a litany of things we need 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:04.360 to think about. No. I think you bring up a 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:07.720 good point in that it is to me one of 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:11.320 the most fascinating starts to a season for the Cowboys 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:13.920 that I can remember, because of the questions, because of 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:17.640 the changes that they've had at so many spots, right, 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:20.400 and the first one you mentioned I think was wide receiver, 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:25.360 and you're right because you had Joe Looney, didn't I 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:28.320 I forgot Joey. There's that too. Yeah, got a new 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:33.400 offensive center, right, So that's important. Zach Martin talked yesterday 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:35.360 to the media. It looks like he feels great. He 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:37.400 should be ready to go back to swell that last 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:40.480 day here and before the Texans game. You can count 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:43.120 on him at right guard. But that wide receiver spot, 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:45.800 you had thirteen or fourteen receivers in camp, and you're right. 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:50.760 They basically just shuffled nine ten guys in for first 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:53.520 team reps throughout training camp, and guys played a lot 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:55.120 of different spots and they were trying to figure out 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:58.360 who does what the best. And I don't think we've 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:01.000 seen that rotation because we have seen I don't think 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:03.480 we've seen all these receivers on the field together yet 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:08.280 because Austin's missed type, Austin's miss time, Deante Thompson's miss Beasley. 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:11.520 So yes, I am. I continue to be fascinated by 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:14.160 that position now, you know, it's it's one of those 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:17.560 things where you go in, do do you feel great? 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:20.440 Is there a Bell Cow guy? Is there that number 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:22.400 one guy? I think that they're going to try and 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:24.880 find a way to develop a guy. There's a lot 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:27.240 of people that believe that, you know, Cole Beasley is 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:30.760 your number one guy. Okay, well that's right now. But 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:34.640 you know, could somebody emerge, Could Hearns emerge? Gallop? I 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:37.600 mean a lot of people are betting on Gallop, including me. 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:40.640 I'm betting on Gallop to be that guy. But he's 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:42.880 yet to line up and play in a you know, 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:46.640 you know, a meaningful NFL game. Yeah, he's He's gotten 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:48.839 a lot of work in the preseason. I think that's good. 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:51.240 I think the report that he's built with Dak Prescott, 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:54.280 I think is good. But you know, it's Cole Beasley 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:56.680 is your number one guy. You better figure out how 0:04:56.720 --> 0:04:58.440 to get Cole Beasley open because you didn't do a 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:00.520 very good job of it last year, you know. And and 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:02.960 and if it means just keep playing him in the 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:04.800 slot and letting other people, you know, I mean we've 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:08.159 seen Alan Hearns playing the slot some that might be 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:10.840 the way of kind of getting things around. But if 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:13.280 Cole Beasley, in fact, it's going to be Dak Prescott's 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:16.039 best friend, like I think he will, you better figure 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:18.679 out ways and and hey, let's you know it's also 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:22.279 the the mantel was also laid at the feet of 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:26.040 of of Scotland. Ahand about Tavon Austin, Jerry Jones made 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:28.520 the trade and said, you better figure this out. You 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:32.039 better figure out a way to get Tavon Austin going. So, uh, 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:36.160 you know, two shorter receivers, two shorter receivers could play 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:39.520 a very big role in the in the the the 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:43.200 fate of this offense this year for sure. Um, and 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:47.200 we're you know five two two nine seven is the number. 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:50.320 By the way, we're going to get into, uh, the 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:54.000 Cowboys defense more so, this this show focusing on the 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:58.400 Cowboys facing the those Panthers offensively, right, and Cam Newton 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:00.240 and all those guys, and how they're going to handle 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:03.360 that Kaffrey McCaffrey. That should be that should be fun, right, 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:05.680 not going to be easy? No, no, And this is 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:07.839 you know, rob if if you want to jump into 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:10.120 that a little bit, I don't even yeah right now 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:12.800 start yeah, I'll throw that out there. You know, this 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:15.200 is a team that's dealing with some injuries along the 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:18.200 offensive line, and you know there you know, Corey Robinson 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:21.919 was brought in to to try and kind of solidify 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:25.360 some things at the left tackle spot. Uh, they've used 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:28.240 you know, Taylor Moten has been a guy that's played 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:30.760 a little left tackle there. Uh, you know, they they 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:35.440 lost Khalil, they lost him to the injury, so they 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:38.560 they've had some problems. They've They're really good though at 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:41.840 right guard. Trey Turner I think is an excellent right guard. 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:44.280 When you start talking about those guys, you know, with 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:46.480 the best guards in the league. You know, the guy 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:49.720 at Baltimore, you know, Zack Martin, I think you have 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:52.400 to talk about Trey Turner as well. So you know, 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:54.760 we'll see how the fact that they're able to do 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:57.120 some things. Darryl Williams, I think their tackle is a 0:06:57.200 --> 0:07:00.480 good player. But they've got some questions along that offensive 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:03.599 line for sure, and so how they're able to mix 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:06.839 and match and line up. Dallas has got to take advantage. 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:08.960 If you ask me, hey, Brian key to the game, 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:11.800 how does Dallas take advantage? Now, Dallas has had a 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:15.800 history of not taking advantage of bad offensive lines, you know, 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:18.880 when now it's been one of those things where okay, 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:21.600 this is a beat up, banged up giant offensive line 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:23.200 all of a sudden then they get no sacks, they 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:25.640 get no pressure that you know they can't allow that 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:27.600 to happen. Now, I feel like this is a game 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:30.480 where it's going to be important to keep Cam Newton 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:33.600 in the pocket where he makes mistakes is in that pocket, 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:35.520 you know you've got to make him. It's a little 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:38.080 bit like Russell Wilson, when you play a quarterback that 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:40.960 has the ability to buy a second and third chance 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:44.240 with his legs, make him have to stand there and 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:46.720 make throws. I don't think he's as accurate throwing from 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:49.520 there when he is on the move, and you tend 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:52.280 to see him make some mistakes. Cam Newton doesn't really 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:55.440 read defenses all that well. And I don't know how 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:58.640 much Chris Rochard and Rod Marinelli are going to disguise 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:00.800 some things. You know they'll probably it's pretty so much 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:03.320 straight up. This is a team that uses a lot 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:06.600 of eleven personnel and they've got a tight end that 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:09.880 plays as a flex player or as a as a 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:13.600 detached If you talk about Greg Olsen, he plays more 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:16.400 of a slot type. So you know he is an 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:21.800 ancient guy but still makes big plays. Yeah, he's the 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:24.280 new Witten he's he's going to be the next broadcaster 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:26.360 for some but because he's really good at it by 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:27.960 the way he does the combine and does stuff and 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:31.240 infil network's really good. But I feel like, though, how 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:33.760 do you play? How do you match up against Olsen? 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:35.760 Do you treat him like a receiver or do you 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:38.199 treat him like a tight end. It'll be interesting to 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:40.200 see if and we always say this word a lot, 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:43.840 it'll be interesting to see how they do they use. 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:49.080 Does Jeff Heath does that become his new rule where 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:53.080 we've seen the Byron Jones rule of Okay, big tight end, 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:56.120 big body, guy that can that can go with him. 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:57.960 Maybe Jeff Heath will be that guy. So they got 0:08:57.960 --> 0:09:01.000 a lot going on with this offense. Comfortable that if 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:04.000 that's the case. Jeff, I love Jeff I love Jeff 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:06.240 Heath playing down. I love Jeff Heath, and I made 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:08.480 a big argument about that yesterday on our show on 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:10.920 Happy Hour, and I hope folks get a chance to 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:12.400 go back and watch that. It was a lot of 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:15.160 fun to get every week, just kind of a little 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:17.199 bit of thought, but we kind of got into I 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:20.439 want to see the Cowboys play Jeff Heath in more 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:22.640 of a down position. I don't want Jeff Heat to 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:27.200 be Xavier Woods where it's run up, run up, run up, 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:29.719 run up, and no plays, you know. I mean we 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:31.599 see that a lot of Xaviers, and that's nice. I 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:33.880 mean I want to see somebody in and the thing 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:36.320 with Jeff Heath. If you play Heath down, you can 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:38.640 use him in coverage if you if you can also 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:41.960 use him. We've seen Jalen Smith be an active player 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:44.760 in tackling and then Sean Lee. That's three bodies, three 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:47.400 active tackles going to the football. I don't want to 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:49.400 see Jeff Heath play at depth and have to keep 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:51.360 coming up and not being able to make any plays. 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:54.080 I think Jeff Heath has had some good coverage skills 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:57.439 throughout training camp. I think he's proven that he can 0:09:57.600 --> 0:10:00.520 cover people. He could be physical, he doesn't get bullied. 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:03.360 So yeah, if you have to, if you have to 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:06.120 have a guy run with Greg Olson all over the field, 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:09.920 this is not Greg Olson like smack the linebacker and 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:12.400 run a hook route. This is these are routes going 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:15.240 down the field. So they're gonna have somebody to kind 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:19.360 of take care of that. Looking at this Panther's offense. Yeah, 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:21.560 what they did last year. Now, this is a Carolina team. 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:23.040 I think they made the playoffs four out of the 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:26.000 last five years. I mean in a tough division division. 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:30.360 But you know they're statistically last year not as solid, 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:32.600 not as great of a year for Cam Newton. He's 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:34.679 taken a lot of hits in his career, hits, and 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:37.160 some of that speaks to not just the offensive line 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:39.520 injuries they have. Now they've they've been kind of shaky 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:44.839 at times before that. M Norv Turner interesting now the 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:48.320 offensive coordinator in Carolina. How that replaces Mike Schula has 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:50.520 been the long time guy there, a long time guy there. 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:53.640 And I know you're familiar with Norv right going back years. 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:56.719 How do you think he can bring the best out 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:58.640 of Cam? Well, he's gonna have to make and this 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:03.440 will be interesting again I use that word. I'm interested 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:07.520 because Norv's offense is timing based and he's got receivers. 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:11.360 Though he's got receivers like in Tory Smith, uh funches 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:14.079 that kind of guy. Dj Moore is a new addition. 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:17.280 You know, he's got guys, that big body guys. If 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:20.480 you remember, Norv Turner has always had success when he's 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:22.800 had a big receiver and big body guy. Looked back 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:24.480 all the way back to when he was you know, 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:27.240 calling plays with Michael Irving and people like that. You know, 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:29.959 I just have always been impressed with the with that 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:32.760 timing based offense. But you got to get you know, 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:36.120 Cam Newton to to buy into that. I think Newton has, 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:39.240 by it has bought into that. Excuse me. They've got 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:41.280 a running back that's a little bit of a dynamic 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:44.319 guy too. When we mentioned McCaffrey that, you know, he 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:47.240 don't let the appearance fool you though. He's a He's 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:50.880 a guy that um can run between the tackles, you 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:52.840 can hand the ball to him outside. He's a finisher. 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:55.400 There's a couple of times in preseason where he had 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:58.160 some really long runs just you know, because the threat 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:00.640 of Cam Newton pulling the ball and running has kind 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:02.920 of given him with some lanes. But Norv Turner does 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:06.280 have weapons to work with. I mean, I do the 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:09.280 offensive line is a problem right now for him, But 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:11.880 what's north Turner always dealt with good things. If he 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:13.559 has a good tight end, if he has some good 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:15.800 receivers and he has the threat of running the football. 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:18.240 You know, Norv Turner could present a lot of problems 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:21.360 to you that way. Yeah, for sure. One thing that 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:25.480 stood out to me throughout camp in preseason is how 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:29.000 fast this Cowboys defense looks yes sideline to sideline and 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:31.400 a lot of that. Maybe a little bit of a 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:34.959 surprise that Jalen Smith has really appeared to take another 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:38.719 step physically, right, You feel like they're better equipped to 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:41.840 face a Carolina team that present, like you said, presents 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:44.720 different matchup problems in terms of versatility both with your 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:47.319 quarterback and running back. Shouldn't worry so much about the 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:49.600 speed on the outside. This is not one of those 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:51.960 teams that I feel like where you have to worry 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:54.439 about this team throwing the football is Cam Newton. He 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:56.520 will launch it down the field. You have to you 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:58.480 have to be ready for that. He's going to throw 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:00.400 the ball up to Smith. He's going to throw the 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:03.040 ball up the funches. He's gonna try and hit these 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:05.960 guys down the field with some plays. You know, that's 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:08.360 just kind of his mo He got a strong arm, 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:11.560 great arm talent, always had great arm talent. But yeah, 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:13.439 you're gonna have to deal with it. The speed on 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:16.439 the outside is not going to worry these cowboy cornerbacks. 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:20.040 It really should. Now, playing the ball vertically in the 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:23.199 air should worry. But these cowboy cornerbacks in the way 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:26.520 they play. So yeah, are they better equipped to handle 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:29.880 the screen pass it's gonna go to McCaffrey, you know, yes, 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:32.319 you know, they're better equipped to get Sean Lee there. 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:34.800 They're better equipped to get Jalen Smith there. You know, 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:36.880 they've got to find a way to get bodies to 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:38.760 the ball. They've got to find a way to get 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:42.199 a body bodies into Cam Newton. And we talked about 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:45.839 making him play from the pocket, but don't bounce off him. 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:48.480 You know, you know, Tank Lawrence, if you're there on 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:51.320 the sack, you beat the tackle clean. You're around the corner, 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:54.040 you know, you have to make sure that you wrap 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:56.719 up Cam Newton. You cannot just go in there with 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:59.880 an arm tackle and expect he's too strong. He'll bounce, 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:02.800 bounce off him. And then now it's a scrambled drill 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:04.280 and all of a sudden he's looking to throw the 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:06.920 ball down the field and there's Tory Smith waiting is 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:09.880 you know Byron Jones has dropped coverage. So you've got 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:11.920 to be able to get bodies to the ball, get 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:16.000 bodies to Cam Newton, be able to handle McCaffrey with 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:19.480 your speed at the linebacker spot, and don't let greg 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:22.160 Olsen be a killer on third down. Those are going 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:24.560 to be really really keys for this defense. But to 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:28.080 your point, the speed is much better, the toughness is better, 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:29.720 and they're getting a lot of guys to the ball. 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:32.480 We've seen that when ones verse ones in the preseason. 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:35.160 The Cowboys have been really really good in that regard. Yeah, 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:38.520 and secondary too physical, playing physical, aggressive at the line 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:42.400 of scrimmage with their corners. You mentioned Dj Moore. That's 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:44.240 a guy that you and Dave Hellman loved him, loved 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:46.520 him coming out of coming out of college for the draft. 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:50.240 See anything from him on preseason, Yeah, they've what they've 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:52.640 what they've done with him rob is They've they've thrown 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:56.040 like screens to him. You've seen some tunnel screens to him. 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:59.440 You've seen some just straight receiver screens. They've tried to 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:01.320 get him the ball a little bit downfield. But everything 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:03.480 has really kind of been underneath for him right now. 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:06.880 And the like I say, the majority of the passes 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:09.400 that have gone to the outside that have gone downfield, 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:13.200 Tory Smith, you know, Funchs. I keep mentioning those guys names. 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:16.000 Greg Olsen's name gets mentioned right there, but you know, 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:19.640 don't don't be surprised because this guy is an acrobat 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:21.600 when it comes to catching the football. He was at 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:24.080 the University of Maryland. He was one of my favorite 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:27.280 guys in watching the draft, one of my top receivers 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:29.440 in this draft. I thought the Cowboys would have an 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:32.360 opportunity to grab him. A matter of fact, he went 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:37.920 right after very quickly after that, they took Layton vander 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:40.600 esh here. So he was in that discussion with oh 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:43.560 the terrest, Calvin Ridley and Ridley. There were all kinds 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:46.040 it depending on who you liked better. Yeah, Ridley. It 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:48.480 looks like Ridley will be a fine player in Atlanta. 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:51.640 So yeah, if you needed a wide receiver, those were 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:53.920 the guys that were clearly the names to be mentioned. 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:57.000 But he hasn't had that explodes at least the games 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:59.920 that I watched this preseason, he hasn't had that explode. 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:03.720 If game that we've seen, he's capable of the six catch, 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:06.680 one hundred and forty yard type game if you get 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:09.240 him going down the field, you get him going, you know, 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:10.880 throw him the ball in his hands. He's got a 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:13.080 little bit of that running back mentality the way he 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:15.720 runs the ball. So yeah, you have to be careful 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:18.120 with all that. How do you feel right now about 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:23.280 the interior part of the Cowboys defensive line? Because they 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:25.680 let a guy go Brian Price that maybe they could 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:30.160 have gotten back if he cleared Waiversum. That hurts him 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:32.400 a little bit because there's a there's a one technique. 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:35.320 They're small inside, right, you know, and then when you're 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:37.400 talking about him McCaffrey, a guy who can run between 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:39.200 the tackles as well as be about, you know, kind 0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:42.360 of an airback outside. Yeah, it's interesting issue because I 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:44.680 think defense on the on the outside, the edges, they 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:47.080 seem deeper than they've been maybe in a couple of years. Right. 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:49.960 They kept you know, all those linebackers, you know, they 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:52.200 and they and that's they kept all those linebackers without 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:55.080 really practicing at all. With Layton vander Ish, right, so 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:57.920 he was supposed to practice this week this week, Yeah, 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:00.320 we'll see if Layton vandersh It's gonna come down to 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:03.080 the final spot if they dress vander Esh or they 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:05.800 feel better about Covington maybe playing special teams. One of 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:09.119 those guys will probably not dress. But I feel like 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:14.399 though that a lot of this early defense front seven 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:18.679 talk hinges on the linebackers, hinges on the defensive end. 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:23.200 But you brought up a great point. What can Woods do? 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:26.520 What can Intwine Woods do? He's going to be your primary, 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:29.560 you know, one technique. What is he going to be 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:31.600 able to do? We asked Jason Garrett the other day, 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:36.080 where do you see you know, Collins, elite Collins, where 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:38.080 do you And his answer was more of a three? 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:40.760 You know? So okay, well, more of a three? Does 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:43.480 that mean do you move him to one? Or the 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:47.760 nose tackle? When you kick you know, you kick Crawford inside. 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:50.280 I mean, this is another one of those spots you 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:53.719 keep a watch on practice because you know, Carolina very 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:56.640 likely to open in that eleven personnel set, which means 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:59.320 you're gonna have to match him with your with your 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:02.720 nickel passage, which means you'll have, um, you know, he'll 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:05.840 have Anthony Brown on the field, but you'll also you know, 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:08.760 have to probably Randy Gregory on the field rush in 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:12.440 the passer. So there's a if there is a little 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:14.960 bit of a concern is Brian Price at least could 0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:19.080 have been a rotational player that was maybe a you know, 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:22.040 an eighteen to twenty four twenty five kind of a 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:25.480 play guy, and now you don't have that. So there's 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:28.320 more questions there about how you play the inside rotation. 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:30.399 You need to keep an eye on practice. Who the 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:33.400 backup guys are inside for sure. And Dayton Jones still 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:35.880 out with a knee injury. He has not been moved 0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:38.240 to IR right now. They're keeping I think, yeah, they 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:41.080 think he's gonna be back sooner than later. So we'll 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:43.399 see how that goes. 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