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Speaker 1: Levels to This is an iHeart women's sports production in

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Speaker 1: partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find

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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, what's going on? Is Shagril Trica Foster Brass?

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 1: Y'all?

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Speaker 3: It's me?

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Speaker 4: Your girl Cheryl's whoops? She said, it's me, Like, of course,

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Speaker 4: who else is it gonna be?

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Speaker 3: Hey?

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Speaker 4: Everybody? This is the Levels to This, the podcast.

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Speaker 2: This is the show where we talk about all the

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Speaker 2: shit that women go through. And it's been a lot.

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Speaker 2: It's been a lot of shit we've been going through. However,

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Speaker 2: on this week's show, we're gonna talk about a lot

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Speaker 2: of shit that America is going through. But before we

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Speaker 2: get there, Hi, Cheryl, how are you amazing?

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Speaker 1: Happy Black History Months?

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Speaker 4: By y'ah?

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Speaker 3: Listen?

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Speaker 1: They might not be celebrating it, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: I do, but we are.

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Speaker 3: Ain't nothing changed. Ahn't changed.

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Speaker 1: I mean a lot has changed, but celebrating Black History

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Speaker 1: Month ain't one of them.

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Speaker 2: All right, Listen, we got some rules Black History Month.

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Speaker 2: We got some rules, all right. Number one, Black people

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Speaker 2: don't do shit to embarrass us for the next twenty

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Speaker 2: summer days. Okay, don't do nothing dumb, don't end up

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Speaker 2: on nobody's TMZ, don't end up on nobody's shade room.

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Speaker 2: Don't don't do nothing stupid for the next twenty summer

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Speaker 2: days because we can't be out here embarrassed in black history.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that's that's rule number one. Rule number two.

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Speaker 2: Don't try to cook shit that you don't regularly know

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Speaker 2: how to cook in celebration. Don't nobody want no nasty

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Speaker 2: macaroni and cheese, and no nasty ass potato salad. Don't

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Speaker 2: try no new shit this much. Just don't do it.

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Speaker 1: Please, Okay, all things, Hey, what's number three?

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Speaker 3: To do it? All right?

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Speaker 4: And the rule rule number three.

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Speaker 2: Please, for the love of everybody, please do not invite

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Speaker 2: no white folks to no damn cookout this month. Nobody

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Speaker 2: is invited to the damn cookout. This is not about

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Speaker 2: white people this month. It's about us.

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Speaker 4: So we not highlighting school, nothing, nothing.

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Speaker 2: We can wait until March first, and even then we're

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Speaker 2: gonna have to wait until April first because March's Women's

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Speaker 2: History month and were putting on for all women. So

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Speaker 2: don't ain't no don't be mad at me. Don't be

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Speaker 2: mad at me, be mad at the other people who

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Speaker 2: ain't give us shit. And so now we got a

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Speaker 2: month and we're gonna take full advantage of it. So

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Speaker 2: no white people recognition, none at all. You don't get it.

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Speaker 4: You don't get it none zero. Meredith. I'm gonna give

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Speaker 4: you all your y March first, Meredith. You know we

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Speaker 4: love you.

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Speaker 2: We just we just can't hell outa listen here. That

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Speaker 2: was funny. We have amazing producer. But she getting her

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Speaker 2: love March first.

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Speaker 3: Meredith, Ryan just.

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Speaker 4: Ryan, Ryan got away too.

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Speaker 2: This month, it's gonna be like y'all, y'all show, Oh

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Speaker 2: my gosh, oh.

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Speaker 3: My gosh, gosh.

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Speaker 1: But for real, okay, I like your rules. But on

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Speaker 1: a more serious note though, I said that because you know,

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Speaker 1: the government was like, we ain't celebrating Black History months

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Speaker 1: no more.

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Speaker 2: Because the government is just ridiculous. They don't celebrate we are, Yes,

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Speaker 2: we are, we are, So.

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Speaker 4: They don't, they don't, They don't celebrate nothing. I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't understand, but you know what.

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Speaker 3: They celebrate the wrong things.

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Speaker 4: They they celebrate.

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Speaker 2: The government said, we're gonna give y'all the Friday after Christmas,

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Speaker 2: like that whole thing. That's gonna be an off day.

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Speaker 2: But June teenth can't be a holiday. No more.

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Speaker 2: Jesus wasn't born the day after Christmas, so why does

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Speaker 4: But June sea fight I'm.

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Speaker 2: Going to It's just I'm sick of it. I'm sick

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Speaker 4: I am over it. I am over it's.

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Speaker 1: I mean, other than it being Black History months? What

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Speaker 2: I've been doing a lot actually over the last couple

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Speaker 2: So I'm looking forward to sharing some updates very soon

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Speaker 2: already in the pre planning stages of my mother slash

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Speaker 2: great grandmother's upcoming birthday. Would you like to know how

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Speaker 2: wits your birthday? Let me tell you. Prepare yourself for this.

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Speaker 2: So she just turned ninety six years.

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Speaker 2: So she's my great grandmother, but she raised me, so

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Speaker 2: she's so that's my and she has me planning her

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Speaker 4: Huh you heard me?

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Speaker 2: I am planning the centennial birthday in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: For twenty thirty, ma'am, what's you finna have a castle?

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Speaker 2: her color scheme. Now, I have no influence over this

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Speaker 2: But she wants it to be blue and gold. But

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Speaker 2: wants to see the guest list. Well, it's her, but

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Speaker 2: Mama said, if you don't fuck.

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Speaker 1: Party, don't be just putting anybody on that list that

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Speaker 2: She wants to see the guest list. I said, man,

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Speaker 2: what you got in that four years in advance. Ma'am,

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Speaker 4: Party.

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Speaker 2: I was like, dang, just because you might see a

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Speaker 2: hundred don't mean.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I've ever heard this.

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Speaker 2: My mom is she is planning for that centennial. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I like playing it.

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Speaker 3: I like it. I like it.

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Speaker 2: That's what I've been knowing. She on my nerves absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: How are things in Nashville, Cole?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Just cold?

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Speaker 4: That's all about, right and mm hmm.

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Speaker 3: But but I mean, how.

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Speaker 1: Does it feel to be back in AU And you know,

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Speaker 1: and enjoy working with my sister. I'm excited about the talent,

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Speaker 3: Though.

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Speaker 2: We kind of tell Cindy now that you know, you

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Speaker 4: A perfect time. Yeah, it'd be a perfect time to

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Speaker 3: That happen And I wish, I wish she would say no.

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Speaker 4: I wish Cindy would say no, she's gonna hear this.

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Speaker 1: And then she gonna text mer and be like, you know,

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Speaker 1: I would come on this show with you guys. Of course,

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Speaker 1: of course she will. I love Yeah, I mean this

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Speaker 1: this this month. Listen February again, Black History month. Got

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Speaker 1: au got basketball going on?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I don't know. I got I too, Like you.

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Speaker 1: Got a couple of things that I'm working on, and

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Speaker 3: Update like as quick as you will, but I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I will say, I'll keep you in the loop as

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Speaker 3: So I'm excited. That's exciting.

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Speaker 4: That's exciting.

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Speaker 2: I think the last thing I'll mentioned in our surface

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Speaker 2: It was just it was an overall great atmosphere. It

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Speaker 4: Okay, so it was really good. So Unrivaled Philly was good.

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Speaker 2: Philly set the standard, twenty one thousand, four hundred some

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Speaker 1: Well it looked like it on TV, and I'm sure

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I was, I was stocking ass on social media.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was. I was in that thing.

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Speaker 2: It was on that same But unfortunately, everything over the

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Speaker 2: Seen and heard some very unfortunate events over the last

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Speaker 2: get into our conversation for today. So let's just go

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Speaker 2: it's funny because this entire week we've been talking about

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Speaker 2: there's also the political climate that has been ridiculous, and

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Speaker 2: it's been that way for a while, but it's just

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Speaker 2: to do what they have done best for many years,

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Speaker 4: About the political climate currently.

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Speaker 2: And then, as if that wasn't enough, they fucked around

443
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 2: and flipped the Senate in the state of Georgia. You

444
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, like this is when you talk

445
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 2: about don't talk about it, be about it. I just

446
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 2: don't think there is any other league and any other

447
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 2: set of people which is which is And even though

448
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 2: we're not talking about this in specific today, but it

449
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 2: is the reason why I know they're not caving in

450
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 2: for this CBA stuff because they put all of that

451
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 2: on the line for social justice. You don't think they're

452
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 2: going to put all of that on the line to

453
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:46,120
Speaker 2: advocate for themselves. Like, come on, it's a no brainer

454
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,679
Speaker 2: to me. It's like, this is what this league has

455
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 2: been built on. This is what these players have been

456
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 2: built on. So if there's anybody that you expect to

457
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 2: speak out about what's happening in the political and social

458
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 2: climate right now, it's these women. But I love that

459
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 2: they're counter parts in the NBA are also saying, hey,

460
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 2: enough is enough. The NBA Players Association recently put out

461
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 2: a statement standing in support of the family of Alex Pretty,

462
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 2: who was the last citizen that was murdered after having

463
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 2: the same similar situation happened just a week before with

464
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Speaker 2: Renee Good.

465
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 4: It is just it is.

466
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 2: It is terrible, and so you know, NBA players put

467
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 2: out a statement, it says, following the news of yet

468
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 2: another fatal shooting in Minneapolis, a city that has been

469
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 2: on the forefront of the fight against injustices, NBA players

470
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 2: can no longer remain silent. These things are happening just

471
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 2: blocks away from the George Floyd Memorial, where we witnessed

472
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 2: a man lose his life on camera, and now we're

473
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 2: seeing a woman get shot in her car on camera.

474
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 2: We see another man get killed on camera, and like,

475
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 2: folks are trying to feed us the bullshit, like we

476
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 2: still but I know what I saw, a friend, and

477
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 2: what I saw is not adding up to what you said.

478
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 1: It's not about being on the right, being on the left, Republican, Democrat, independent,

479
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:19,919
Speaker 1: it ain't about none of that, but it's about you.

480
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 1: You're you want me to sit here, and by you,

481
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: I mean the government. You want me to sit here

482
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: and tell my eyes that they're lying to me that

483
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: my eyes did not.

484
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 3: Just see what I know.

485
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 4: They say, I know they saw.

486
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 3: I know, I know what my eyes saw, all four

487
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 3: of them.

488
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, like I know it.

489
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 2: And then you got people on the internet who ain't

490
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 2: got nothing else to do, so they like to take

491
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 2: the footage, break it down, slow it down, back it up.

492
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 2: So not only did my eyes see it, but now

493
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,719
Speaker 2: we have all these other various forms and angles.

494
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 4: And slow motion, and I'm like, y'all listen.

495
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 2: If y'all ever watched the movie Baby Boy, there's this

496
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 2: there's this one scene where Taraji says, you must take

497
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 2: me for some kind of food, because that I feel

498
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 2: like the government is trying to tyrace me right now,

499
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 2: like what you might you must take.

500
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 4: Me for some kind of food. Come on, come on,

501
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 4: come on, what are we doing?

502
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 3: You know? I was talking to a friend the other

503
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 3: day and she said to me, you know, she was

504
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 3: just like, you want to go out? Do you want it?

505
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: First of all, you know, I'm gonna be outside. She

506
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: was like, you want to go out, you want to

507
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: go do.

508
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 3: This and that? And I said I don't.

509
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: And the reason why I said it was because I

510
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: just have this I feel like there's this hole in

511
00:28:55,480 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: my my heart right now. That's just her for our country.

512
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 3: And we have so many people.

513
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: Who refuse to believe what's really happening, Like it's in

514
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: front of us every single day, what's happening to this country?

515
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: And I just was in a space where to me,

516
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: it just didn't feel right to go kick it and

517
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: hang out and you know, and have a good time

518
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: when I'm watching this country fall apart.

519
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 4: I feel that.

520
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 2: And actually, on the other side of the break, I

521
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 2: want to ask you a question that falls in.

522
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 4: Line with that very thing.

523
00:29:44,080 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 2: Stay tuned, sure, do you ever feel guilty about enjoying

524
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 2: things right now because I'm gonna tell you why I'm

525
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 2: asking this.

526
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 4: Yes, go ahead, but yes, because hell yes.

527
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 2: You Like I could be enjoying a game, I could

528
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 2: be hanging out with friends, I could be shooting shit

529
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 2: on Twitter, and a part of me will sometimes feel

530
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 2: guilty that I'm smiling or that I'm having a good time,

531
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 2: or that I'm enjoying something when the world around me

532
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 2: is suggesting that we are going to hail in a

533
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 2: hand basket like it is, And I don't know if

534
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 2: I should feel bad or feel guilty that I have

535
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 2: stolen moments to feel good and to have fun. Yeah,

536
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 2: when everyone else, like, when there is so much going on,

537
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 2: does that ever happening.

538
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 3: Every day?

539
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: And here's the other thing I will say, because someone

540
00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: said this to me, we also, given everything that we're

541
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: dealing with in this country right now, we still have

542
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: to live.

543
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean?

544
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: But one hundred percent I do. Every time I'm like,

545
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna go do this or I'm

546
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: gonna go do that, and then I start thinking about

547
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: where this country is.

548
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 3: But more than that, te.

549
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: Listen, I you know I played in Minnesota played against

550
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: the Links all the things. What I will tell you is,

551
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: and people may not think this, but I've loved playing

552
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: in Minnesota.

553
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 3: One.

554
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: I love playing in front of the fans because I

555
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: knew they were gonna boo the shit out of me

556
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: every single time I touched the ball. But I knew

557
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: the booths were out of love and respect, right. But

558
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: what I will say is just that community, the city.

559
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: They're just incredible people. And so it hurts my heart

560
00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: to see anybody, but it really is hurting its crush

561
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: my soul right now to see what's happening to the

562
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: people of Minnesota.

563
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, and.

564
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: Every time I see the protest, I see all the

565
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: stuff on TV, I'm like, Okay, I've seen enough.

566
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 3: I need a break, but I can't turn away.

567
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: And being a mom myself, when when I saw the shooting,

568
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: the murder of Renee good Te.

569
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 5: I lost it, like for a lot of reasons, and

570
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 5: then for her wife to be right there, but to

571
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 5: know that her kids will will never get to see

572
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 5: her again.

573
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: Behind to me, behind something that didn't have to happen, right,

574
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: And then with pretty I'm just like, this is not

575
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: really happening.

576
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 3: It's not but it is it is, but it is.

577
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: So to answer your question, do I feel guilty, Yes,

578
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: I do.

579
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 3: But then there's another part of me that's like.

580
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: Because I already felt this way, but even more so

581
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: now that I'm like, damn, yeah, that that that could

582
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: be any of it.

583
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 4: It could be any of us. It really could.

584
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 2: And I am I tell you all the time, I'm

585
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 2: not a conspiracy theorist, but I watch enough crazy shit

586
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 2: on TV, and I really have this mindset that all

587
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 2: fiction comes from some truth, like like you ain't just

588
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 2: set to hear and made like something inspired. You agree

589
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 2: with that to come up with whatever it is that

590
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 2: you're coming up with. And I was a huge handmade

591
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 2: Tale fan, and in my head I was like, Yo,

592
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 2: this whole dystopian world and universe that y'all got someone

593
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 2: this is not too far fetched from the truth, right.

594
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 2: And the reason that I say that is because you know,

595
00:33:55,400 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 2: today it's today, it's it's Hispanic immigrants, it's immigrants from

596
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 2: and let's keep in mind, y'all post it up in Minneapolis.

597
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 2: But US reports indicate from twenty twenty three to twenty

598
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 2: twenty five that there are about two million undocumented illegal

599
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 2: immigrants in Florida, I'm sorry in Texas. In Texas, one

600
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Speaker 2: point six million in Florida, a little over one hundred

601
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 2: and fifty thousand in Minneapolis.

602
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: The math and texts wait, I'm sorry, and Texas and

603
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: Florida are Democratic states or Republican ran as hell anyway,

604
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 1: So I say, so you picking up what I'm putting

605
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: down where I'm like, this don't make no sense to me.

606
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 4: So that's number one. Number two.

607
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 2: I sat here and watched with my own eyes again,

608
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 2: a young boy taken to his own hands, that he

609
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 2: wanted to attempt to assassinate the President of the United States.

610
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 2: I seen him get away. I've seen them chased this

611
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,479
Speaker 2: man to Pittsburgh or somewhere in Pennsylvania. I saw them

612
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 2: apprehend this guy and then take him back to wherever

613
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 2: it was before. Eventually, whatever happened to him happened to him.

614
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 3: You saw that with your eyes.

615
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 2: I saw that from all of the things that they

616
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 2: showed on television, where from you walking down steps from you,

617
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 2: you know, all of his things, all of the videos

618
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 2: that they that they had, all of these videos that

619
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 2: they showed of this individual and what he looked like

620
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,240
Speaker 2: and what he was doing, and blah blah blah blah blah.

621
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 2: So y'all could do that to someone attempting to assassinate

622
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 2: the commander in chief, the President of the United States,

623
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 2: the leader of the free world. But you can't shoot

624
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 2: a tire from somebody trying to get away. You got

625
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 2: to bus through her window, but you can't. That's that's

626
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 2: your can that just baffle me? Because you know, because

627
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 2: because as African Americans, we've been saying this for years.

628
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 2: We've been saying, you know, black people can't never do

629
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 2: shit because the first thing you're gonna do is shoot.

630
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 4: And we have a a planthora of examples.

631
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 2: So so it's not like so we know that this

632
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 2: can happen. I'm just I'm not. I don't understand how.

633
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,479
Speaker 2: I just don't understand. And so to bring this full

634
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 2: circle to why I brought this up in the first place,

635
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 2: it is because today it could be people from Venezuela,

636
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 2: and it's from from Colombia, Ecuador, El Salvador, whatever. How

637
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 2: do I know at some point, y'all are not gonna

638
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 2: say to me and my friends in Detroit or Chicago

639
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 2: or Houston or anywhere else where there's a majority black

640
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 2: population that you know what, we all really got your

641
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 2: documentation from being here. Y'all are really of African descent.

642
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 2: Maybe we need to send y'all back back. I ain't

643
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 2: never been there. I mean I've been there vacation, but

644
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 2: like I ain't I'm from Detroit, i ain't from I'm

645
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 2: from another continent.

646
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 4: I'm from North America.

647
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 2: Like it's like it would not surprise if at some

648
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 2: point we got to a place where they were like,

649
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 2: let's just send Let's just put an idiot mean and

650
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 2: send all the people back, because you know, if anybody

651
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 2: history buffier folks out there listening, y'all know ido I

652
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 2: mean crazy selves, send all them Asians back to Asia

653
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 2: and half of them folks ain't never ever ever lived

654
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 2: in Asia, and it ended up destroying the economy. And

655
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 2: then he's looking crazy. He's a dictator. You know what

656
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 2: I'm saying. It's a little playbook that these dictators have.

657
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 2: I don't know if folks have ever picked up the signs.

658
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 4: The signs is outywhere. But I ain't a conspiracy theorist,

659
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 4: so I'm not putting there.

660
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: I'm just saying the code and the little factral across

661
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: those that both Veno was where all.

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Speaker 2: Of I'm talking about the society the signs are. I mean,

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Speaker 2: if you're not paying attention, I ain't telling you to

664
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Speaker 2: run with it. I'm just saying, take a little note,

665
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Speaker 2: put it in the back, and keep it there and

666
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Speaker 2: store it there and don't lose it.

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Speaker 4: Because the signs are their honey.

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Speaker 2: The playbook that they pull it from is one of

669
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Speaker 2: the worst playbooks in the world, and folks are just

670
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 2: not really understanding that at this point. It's not about

671
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Speaker 2: being Republican or Democrats. We have had Republican and Democrats

672
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Speaker 2: for many years, and we have not always had folks

673
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Speaker 2: just literally getting killed in the middle of the street

674
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Speaker 2: in broad daylight being recorded on television. So it's not

675
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Speaker 2: about red or blue. It's not about policy, you know

676
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 2: what I mean. Like I have disagreed with Republicans on

677
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Speaker 2: policy for years. I've never wanted to see any of

678
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Speaker 2: them murdered.

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Speaker 1: I don't now one hundred percent is crazy.

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Speaker 4: It's crazy. It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if you have the answer to this,

682
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Speaker 1: but my question is, because I wake up every day

683
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Speaker 1: thinking about this, what did we do?

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Speaker 3: You know what?

685
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Speaker 2: Somebody asked me, This actually a couple of days ago,

686
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Speaker 2: somebody asked me what do they think the solution should be,

687
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Speaker 2: and I had three answers.

688
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Speaker 4: Answer number one was, obviously.

689
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Speaker 2: That ICE needs to be removed in its current structure

690
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Speaker 2: from Minneapolis.

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Speaker 4: Duh. That's the that's that's the duf. That was the hello, du.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, duh, duh, duh duh. My solution number two was

693
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Speaker 2: that I am not going to pretend like this agency

694
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Speaker 2: did not exist before now. But there is obviously some

695
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Speaker 2: disconnect in their training, and there is obviously some disconnect

696
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 2: in the type of people that they are using to

697
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 2: be part of this agency, So there clearly needs to

698
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Speaker 2: be some reevaluation and some revamping on on on all

699
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Speaker 2: of that, Like, I need of mental evals, I need

700
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Speaker 2: some actual training on how to apprehend a suspect like

701
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Speaker 2: an actual suspect. I need y'all to remove these masks

702
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 2: and ship that y'all be wearing, because why y'all don't

703
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 2: want people see your face?

704
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Speaker 1: Playbook play if you're if you're doing the right thing

705
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Speaker 1: and you're doing it the right way.

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Speaker 4: Why are you hiding while you're hiding your face?

707
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Speaker 2: Right? Playbook number three, Because I'm gonna just say it

708
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 2: solution number three. I'm gonna just say it, because I

709
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 2: don't give a fuck Maney Congress to grow a spine

710
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Speaker 2: and peach Donald Trump and get him the fuck up

711
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Speaker 2: out of here.

712
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Speaker 4: That's that's number three.

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Speaker 3: That like period now that should that should be numbering.

714
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Speaker 4: It really should have been number one.

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Speaker 2: But I've been like the most immediates.

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Speaker 4: That's the solution for me.

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Speaker 1: I concur with all the things, all the things, you know.

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Speaker 1: I think one of to your point, no Ice isn't new.

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Speaker 1: Ice has been around. There's some of the differences are

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Speaker 1: one the face mask, like why why number two? When

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Speaker 1: you're posting an ad or running commercials that says join

722
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Speaker 1: ICE for a I think at one point it was

723
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Speaker 1: a thirty thousand dollars signing bonus or a fifty thousand

724
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Speaker 1: dollars whatever.

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Speaker 3: Do you know how many people would see that and

726
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Speaker 3: be like, dang, I can use thirty thousand dollars right now.

727
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Speaker 1: And and I really don't from what I've read and

728
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Speaker 1: what I've heard, I really don't have to go through

729
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Speaker 1: a lot of training to be able to join ICE.

730
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Speaker 1: Get a gun on my hip, go break in people's

731
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Speaker 1: homes because you breaking into a house without a warrant,

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Speaker 1: you're trespassing.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying, huh.

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Speaker 1: But to me, I feel like that is a big

735
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: issue and problem with ICE is you're you're just letting

736
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Speaker 1: anybody who fills out the application or whatever it is

737
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Speaker 1: they do and says I.

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Speaker 3: Would have been icage.

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Speaker 2: Did you see the video with the lady who was

740
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Speaker 2: a teacher and says she made two hundred doctor or

741
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Speaker 2: thinking she said, I saw that she made two hundred

742
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Speaker 2: a year, And he said, I make that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw that, and tease that that's a that's

744
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Speaker 1: a big problem and a big issue, like you're not

745
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Speaker 1: even going through the proper channels and the proper training

746
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Speaker 1: and all the things that ICE agents should be doing

747
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Speaker 1: for you to become an ICE agent, Like what are

748
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Speaker 1: what are we doing?

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Speaker 2: It's sad, It's sad, and it's it's it is a

750
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Speaker 2: very critical state of affairs that we find ourselves, and

751
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 2: we just got to continue to speak up. I love

752
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 2: that the protesters are out there in Minnesota. They are

753
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 2: they for the most part, on their end. From what

754
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 2: I've seen and read, I have not seen or read

755
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Speaker 2: anything differently, So I'm suggesting I'm making my comment preferencing it.

756
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Speaker 2: By what I've seen and read is that they have

757
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 2: done so peacefully. Like the The disruption has not come

758
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 2: from the protesters. The disruption has come from those who

759
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 2: have founded, who have who don't quite understand that the

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Speaker 2: United States Constitution grants these people the ability and the

761
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 2: right and the liberty to protest as as as as

762
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Speaker 2: if they have secured the necessary paperwork and license to

763
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Speaker 2: be there, which these people have done, they can protest

764
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Speaker 2: where they are.

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Speaker 4: It's just it's just that simple. And so.

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Speaker 2: I am hoping that we continue to speak up, continue

767
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Speaker 2: to make our voices heard, continue to.

768
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Speaker 4: Show up, that.

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Speaker 2: Those who have the platform, like those in the WNBA,

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Speaker 2: the NBA, and other athletes and musicians and entertainers who

771
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 2: have used their platform to speak up, that they continue

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Speaker 2: to do that. We don't have much, but what we

773
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Speaker 2: got we definitely won't be silent about, you know, whether

774
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: that's levels to this, whether that's our own individual like

775
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 2: we you know, Tarika and Chul are not innocent bystanders

776
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 2: just letting shit happen. We use our voices to express

777
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 2: how we feel, and that is important to me, That

778
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 2: is important to all of us, and I would just say,

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00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 2: you know, for me and you and others who may

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00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 2: feel guilty, like it's okay for us to find pockets

781
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Speaker 2: to just.

782
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Speaker 4: Kind of like tap out for a little bit.

783
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Speaker 2: Not that we've given up on the fight or the activism,

784
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 2: but just it's okay to give your brain a restpe

785
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 2: because there is so much news that will oversaturate and

786
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 2: there are a lot of people using AI and other

787
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 2: things to try to manipulate what we're seeing and how

788
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 2: we're consuming things like use your discernment, use your common sense,

789
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 2: and make sure you are listening to trusted sources and

790
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 2: trust it outlets to give you the information because there

791
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 2: are so many people nowadays, including media outlets, that are

792
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 2: under the payroll of those who do not mean the

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Speaker 2: American people any good.

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Speaker 4: So we just got to really be careful and use

795
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 4: our own discernment. But I'm going to.

796
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Speaker 2: Pray that better days are coming, that it is eventually

797
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Speaker 2: spatter days are coming.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 1: It's a song and if you need some uplifting, go

800
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Speaker 1: listen to Better.

801
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 3: Days by Leandria Johnson. Gospel song.

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Speaker 1: Well, there it is, and you are going to shed

803
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: some tears if you have not listened to.

804
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Speaker 2: Okay, well, I'm gonna have to put that on the

805
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 2: playlist because I didn't know that was I know it

806
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 2: was a jam. Okay, well, friends, thank you guys for

807
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 2: kicking it with us us. As always in stay tuned,

808
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 2: because when we come back, we will level this thing

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Speaker 2: on out.

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00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 4: You know what.

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Speaker 2: We're going to end this show on a much better

812
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 2: note because it is always It's always great.

813
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Speaker 4: I always love having these.

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Speaker 2: Conversations with you, Cheryl, because they are conversations that need

815
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 2: to be had and they are not always comfortable, and

816
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 2: so you've got to have them with people who you

817
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 2: feel comfortable.

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Speaker 4: Having them with.

819
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Speaker 2: So I always love you know, I don't love having

820
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 2: conversations about, you know, the things that are happening in

821
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 2: this way, but I love having them with you. And

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00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 2: I love that you, being a former player, understand more

823
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,439
Speaker 2: than anyone else how important it is for this type

824
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 2: of activist them to come from women and from you know,

825
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 2: women in sports. Right, we just celebrated National Girls and

826
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Speaker 2: Women in Sports Day, and this is just kind of

827
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 2: plays into that that, like, this is something that we've

828
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Speaker 2: always done, have always been doing across multiple sports leagues.

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Speaker 1: So it's a conversation that needed to be one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: But Tia, it's not even not even just about being

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Speaker 1: an athlete. Honestly, Like, as women, though, this is this

832
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: is what we do. Like we we're never afraid to

833
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Speaker 1: step out there, We're never afraid to be different, We're

834
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Speaker 1: never afraid to carry the load, right because as women,

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Speaker 1: those are just things that we've always done. And then

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Speaker 1: when you put athletes in front of that, WNBA players specifically,

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Speaker 1: you know, we've always used our voices to speak up

838
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 1: for the voiceless when things we feel there's no justice

839
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 1: and things aren't going right. So it did not surprise

840
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Speaker 1: me at all that Toash and Stewie and so many

841
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: other WNBA players are using their voices during this time

842
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: to say, you know, like enough is enough.

843
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:12,240
Speaker 2: Absolutely so on that note, we are going to level

844
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 2: this thing on up and we are going to have

845
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 2: schro give us our wonderful affirmation for today.

846
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 4: But you got this.

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00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: This is real, short and sweet and simple. But I

848
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: found this and honestly it was like, oh this is

849
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Speaker 1: for me.

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Speaker 3: I feel like I say that about.

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Speaker 1: Everything because they always are and this one, this one

852
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: is no different. And it says maybe your path is

853
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: harder because your calling is higher.

854
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 4: You are destined for greater. That's what it is.

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00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: The shit is really hard out here at times, and

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Speaker 1: I question it, yep, right, but yeah I need it.

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Speaker 3: I needed that today.

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00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, the standard is a little higher.

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Speaker 3: So I receive all of that.

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Speaker 4: I love that. I love that. That is really really good.

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Speaker 2: So as we continue to celebrate Black History Month and

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Speaker 2: we move into our purpose and listen, bet nobody text

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Speaker 2: me or tweet me or inbox met no about my

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Speaker 2: bet nobody about my roofs, nor bet anybody write any

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Speaker 2: because you know I'm about to I'm gonna tell I'm

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Speaker 2: about to tell you. Hold on, I'm gonna use some

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Speaker 2: aa V. I'm sending to tell y'all what y'all needs

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Speaker 2: to do. But tell then let them know. You need

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00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 2: to continue to listen to the show. You need to

870
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 2: make sure that you are sharing our show. You need

871
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 2: to make sure you connect with us, whether that is

872
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:51,280
Speaker 2: via email at levels to this podcast at gmail dot com,

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00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 2: or whether that's on Instagram at ltt pod. But what

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Speaker 2: you bet not do is ask us or put in

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Speaker 2: your review why we don't celebrate white History because it's

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Speaker 2: every other freaking damn month.

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Speaker 4: Okay, let us add this one.

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Speaker 3: We already got the shortest month of the year.

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Speaker 2: Shortest it was a week if you know it was

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Speaker 2: a history was We finally got a month with.

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Speaker 4: Twenty eight d twenty nine. If we love, let me

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Speaker 4: leave you all along ya because somebody gonna be somebody

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Speaker 3: Show we are We are joking but not really.

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Speaker 2: We are lightweight joking. We are lightweight joking, but no man.

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Speaker 2: Continue to connect with us, guys, We love it. Remember

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Speaker 2: this is not just our show, but it's our shows.

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Speaker 2: We want to hear from you, and so until next time,

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Speaker 2: you need to please keep your mentals ground level and

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Speaker 2: we will be back next week.

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