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Speaker 1: The San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 3: Why did you do it?

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Speaker 4: I did it because I was foolish.

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Speaker 2: Listen to how to Bribe a Judge on Revolver podcast

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Speaker 5: The John Annick and Kenny Florian Podcast John Annick and

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Speaker 5: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 6: I fucking love him.

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Speaker 2: I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 4: Big job there, coufi a fretful.

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Speaker 7: There are a couple of absolutely self involved bullshit artists.

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Speaker 5: Here are your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian's.

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Speaker 6: Under Gone down to miss I couldn't do it, do it?

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Speaker 8: Lookut me down, love me.

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Speaker 3: Do po There is no.

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Speaker 6: Nobody does it.

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Speaker 9: Oh, if you could just see the hair standing up

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Speaker 9: on my arm, full body chills for the last twenty

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Speaker 9: four hours, pound for pound, what look at me?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 9: Print the shirts? Leon Edwards on top of the world,

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Speaker 9: So glad to be with you today. Monday, August twenty second,

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Speaker 9: twenty twenty two, Episode three sixty two of the Annek

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Speaker 9: and Florian podcast Ken Flow is back Stateside. We are

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Speaker 9: chasing the clock already. Holy piss bro, Holy pissed Leon

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Speaker 9: fucking Edwards.

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Speaker 10: Huh unfreaking believable. You know, just when you think you

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Speaker 10: might know a little bit about the sport, the sport

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Speaker 10: just twists things and puts it on its head and

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Speaker 10: reminds you that this is the greatest sport in the

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Speaker 10: world and you never know.

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Speaker 6: What's going to happen in a real fight.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 6: It's just it's unbelievable.

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Speaker 9: You know that I can be prone to hyperbole even

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Speaker 9: if I don't love the greatest of all time conversation.

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Speaker 9: But let us just set this up contextually, because kamar

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Speaker 9: Usman was fifty six seconds away from a twentieth consecutive

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Speaker 9: win in modern day mixed martial arts and a sixteen

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Speaker 9: and oh start in the UFC, tying Anderson Silver's record

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Speaker 9: for most consecutive wins in UFC history, and Leon Edwards

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Speaker 9: saved his best shot for last after a pretty listless

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Speaker 9: pedestrian middle round sequence through two, three, and four for

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Speaker 9: Leon oh Ray Long goes already with us, So you know,

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Speaker 9: ken Fler is going to kick off the analysis, but

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Speaker 9: god damn, we're not gonna throw right into our opening

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Speaker 9: segment here. I mean, we'll let him get his headset

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Speaker 9: together here. But Ken flow your thoughts ultimately on on

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Speaker 9: Leong and pulling the victory from the jobs of.

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Speaker 6: You know what the main concern for me was was

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Speaker 6: when he started talking about not only going up one

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Speaker 6: way class, but two weight classes. I said, anytime, you

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Speaker 6: know what that really means. That means that a champion

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Speaker 6: doesn't believe that there's a challenge in his weight class anymore.

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Speaker 6: That was a big time concern. How many times have

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Speaker 6: we seen that? And again, tomorrow is an absolute beast,

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Speaker 6: a great champion, always will be, might be the champion again, right,

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Speaker 6: But when I started hearing that, I was very concerned,

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Speaker 6: and maybe it wasn't gonna happen this fight, but maybe

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Speaker 6: it was gonna happen the next fight. That didn't bode

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Speaker 6: well for me when I was hearing that kind of conversation.

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Speaker 9: I just want to interject for a minute there, because

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Speaker 9: it's not as though Kenflo is saying it impacts his preparation,

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Speaker 9: but mentally, right, you feel so forged that not a

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Speaker 9: man can beat you, and perhaps you know that allows

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Speaker 9: for a window of opportunity. Right, It's not as though

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Speaker 9: he's putting in fewer hours in training per se. Right,

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Speaker 9: he just didn't necessarily think that Leon Edwards was the

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Speaker 9: better man in any way, shape or form. Raymond Longo,

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Speaker 9: big weekend for you, But we have to start with

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Speaker 9: Leon Edwards. I mean, can you believe this guy from

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Speaker 9: everything that he was, you know, tested with in his life,

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Speaker 9: you know, living with no means in Jamaica. You know,

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Speaker 9: mother had him at fifteen and look at him now,

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Speaker 9: huh look at Leon Edwards?

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Speaker 3: Now, yeah, great, great backstory.

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Speaker 8: And just said, you know, I got to spend a

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Speaker 8: little time with him and his team at like the

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Speaker 8: press conversation seemed just like salt to the earth.

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Speaker 3: Great.

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Speaker 8: People couldn't be happy for a guy. But I got

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Speaker 8: to tell you, man, watching that fight, like in the

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Speaker 8: fifth round, like I can't he just looked off. I

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Speaker 8: do believe when he says that was the worst Leon Edwards.

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Speaker 8: I do believe him because I was in the back going.

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Speaker 8: I just can't believe he's just not pulling the trigger

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Speaker 8: like what's he waiting for? And he didn't look like

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Speaker 8: he's reacting good. And then the next day, you know,

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Speaker 8: same side, same kick, boom, knockout and it's over.

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Speaker 3: So he got it done. And uh, perfect technique.

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Speaker 8: If you had to even explain the way you do

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Speaker 8: that technique, Kenny. You get that hand coming over to

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Speaker 8: parry that punch and the kicks right there. A lot

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Speaker 8: of guys can't do it. They don't have the flexibility

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Speaker 8: to bring that leg up right behind the hand. But

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Speaker 8: that was executed absolutely perfect. And more important, the corner advice.

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Speaker 8: The cornering of Leon Edwards I believe saved him in

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Speaker 8: that fight because they didn't mince words in that corner

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Speaker 8: and they they lit a fire under that guy's asked

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Speaker 8: the same thing. I swear to god I would have

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Speaker 8: would I would have been berserk at that point, and

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Speaker 8: they did it and it wasn't like, you know, I

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Speaker 8: heard technical. Okay, it's good to tell the guy to

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Speaker 8: get up or to do this, but you got.

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Speaker 3: No you know what to do. The guy knows what

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Speaker 8: Like I tell you, if you got to if you

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Speaker 8: tell a guy to get up and you got to

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Speaker 8: explain to him how to get up. I didn't do

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Speaker 8: your job in training camp. I guarantee these guys know

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Speaker 8: what to do. They got to be reminded of the

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Speaker 8: small things. You got to be reminded of why are

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Speaker 8: you here? What did you say you were going to do?

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Speaker 8: You know what happened to that? And I think they

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Speaker 8: did a great job in that corner in between the

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Speaker 8: fourth and fifth round. Oh yeah, and I he owes

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Speaker 8: those guys a little something because I tell you they

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Speaker 8: guy did not mince words with him at all and

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Speaker 8: he got the job done.

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Speaker 3: Man. So it ended up even being the greatest story

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Speaker 9: But if you go to my Twitter page, a lot

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Speaker 9: of that audio from Dave Levelle has been sort of

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Speaker 9: repurposing music altogether. You need to hear your thoughts on

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Speaker 9: the kick.

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Speaker 3: Oh that kick was beautiful and suffer it can't be

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Speaker 9: There aren't that many wealth rates Kenny that that can

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Speaker 9: execute that kick at the highest level. Leon Edwards' chances

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Speaker 6: Yeah, now listen, I thought it was brilliant. I think

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Speaker 6: the big thing for Kamara was he was in Leon's

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Speaker 6: him for the rest of the round. Right, And Kamarro

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Speaker 6: and when he's up against the cage right, that's when

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Speaker 6: he's wrestling you. That's where he's using dirty boxing. And

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Speaker 6: he was playing around where Leon Edwards is at his best,

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Speaker 6: and Leon was switching stances back and forth. But when

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Speaker 6: out for that kick. He was throwing that kick right

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Speaker 6: it was hard to tell whether he was trying to

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Speaker 6: left kick. Whatever it was, Kamara Uzman bit on it

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Speaker 6: It was just unbelievable. And to go back to what

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Speaker 6: Ray said about the corner, it was just brilliant stuff.

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Speaker 6: And again that video that you reposted, John I reposted

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Speaker 6: and this goes for no matter where you are in

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Speaker 6: your life, sometimes you need to believe in yourself when

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Speaker 6: nobody else will. And there's other times where you need

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Speaker 6: someone else to believe in you when you don't. And

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Speaker 6: you had that corner who came in and injected that

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Speaker 6: information at just the right time. And Leon isn't one

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Speaker 6: You know, people were talking about him not making eye

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Speaker 6: he did make eye contact for that second, and he

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Speaker 6: knew what he needed to do. He didn't go berserk.

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Speaker 6: He stayed within himself. He took the approach of an assassin.

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Speaker 6: He waited for that one shot to the head, and man,

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Speaker 6: did he get it. Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Let me at uh, Oh what else did I want

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Speaker 8: The other thing is why Tomorrow felt comfortable with him

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Speaker 8: I don't think that was the case, but that's why

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Speaker 3: Kenny, nothing was really going on.

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Speaker 8: He should have felt comfortable. He was cruising to another victory.

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Speaker 8: He really was way ahead in that fight. The guy

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Speaker 8: his reactions were so slow. To me, I was like, man,

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Speaker 8: I don't know if it's the altitude, I don't know

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Speaker 8: what happened, but I do believe when he's I think

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Speaker 8: he said the press conference that was like the best tomorrow.

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Speaker 8: If that's the best tomorrow and that that's the worst.

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Speaker 3: Me I'd be.

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Speaker 8: I'd make him a big favorite in the second fight,

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Speaker 8: because I believe what I was looking at didn't look.

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Speaker 3: Right for a variety of reasons. But power to him.

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Speaker 6: With that kept, I would say, absolutely there was a

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Speaker 6: play to the strength of your opponents, no.

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Speaker 8: Question about it, No, no, no, I'm just trying to

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Speaker 8: interject what the mindset might have been. And you know,

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Speaker 8: and Kenny, it could be a tactic. You know, it's

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Speaker 8: almost like what Cheeto does. He just stays the course.

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Speaker 8: He's steady it he's steady Eddy, you can't get rid

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Speaker 8: It's almost the same, totally different, different technique, but same

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Speaker 9: It is playing with fire, right, I mean, Leon away

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Speaker 9: from you know, being frauded with credit maybe another championship opportunity.

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Speaker 9: And uh, you know it's interesting that, you know, coaches

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Speaker 9: can be critical and Dave Leavelle certainly should be revered

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Speaker 9: today in the entire coaching staff, all of them, all

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Speaker 9: of them, right, But broadcasters, right, who are paid to

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree, Listen, I think there's every fighter's different Also,

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 6: Was he defeated at that point? I think that might

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and a cople other things go ahead, right.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and John, I just wanted to you know, it

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Speaker 8: So to me, it was like a perfect scenario, you

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Speaker 8: You gotta know, you got That's the thing. The coaches

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Speaker 8: you know what, I swear to God, it is unbelievable

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Speaker 3: You know? All right?

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Speaker 9: I have a lot of different notes on this fight,

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Speaker 9: even get to young guy. I'm good, all right, Ken

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Speaker 9: Flow Herb Dean separated the fighters in a Clint situation

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Speaker 9: Rashat Evan said to me after the fight that, you know,

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Speaker 9: But in this final sequence can flow on a night

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Speaker 6: That, Yeah, listen, I think that it was a little

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Speaker 6: In regards to the herb Dean thing. You know, I

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Speaker 6: They were kind of stalling there a little bit. They

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Speaker 9: So yeah, Hey, Cody's pointing out that Anthony Smith on

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Speaker 9: I mean, I don't know. I feel like for Kamarrow,

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Speaker 9: But I don't know that he took his foot off

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Speaker 9: And I don't know Kenny, I think it's one of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let me jump in there for two.

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Speaker 8: It's not gonna happen to Israel at a sign because

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Speaker 8: what I'm saying, like Tomorrow, the days you have with

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Speaker 8: But it's not gonna happen like that, you know, like

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Speaker 3: But he made a really bad mistake.

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Speaker 8: He over parried that punch and put his head right

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Speaker 6: Know, so right, I think that spot on. I remember

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Speaker 8: I think if he could have gotten like, if that

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Speaker 8: You're learning as you're going. But that was if you

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Speaker 3: This is what you're looking for.

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Speaker 9: So ouspan on the feet, very good jab at least

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Speaker 8: Well, well, let me just say one thing too again.

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Speaker 3: That's the first thing. Right.

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Speaker 8: Tomorrow's good, He's not bad. I'm not gonna agree with that,

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Speaker 8: but he's not at Leon Edwards level of kickboxing right

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Speaker 8: Definitely not right. It's Mma Stroy's this strong guy. He

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Speaker 8: But Leon is more of a calculated He's gonna walk

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Speaker 8: When he wasn't pulling the trigger. It was frustrating, as

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Speaker 8: I'm sure it was frustrating to his corner. But you

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Speaker 8: He doesn't have to slip and rip. He just punches

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Speaker 6: waiting their their their offense cuts down for their striking,

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Speaker 6: and they don't expect Usman to land that one too

436
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Speaker 6: like he does. You know, like I think he's not

437
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,399
Speaker 6: thrown anything crazy, you know, Jabs and crosses. That's how

438
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,399
Speaker 6: he knocked out Gilbert, That's how he knocked out Masvidal.

439
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,440
Speaker 6: You know, he's he's a he's a massive welterweight. Those

440
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,639
Speaker 6: guys are blown up lightweights really, if we're being honest.

441
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 6: So he's getting knockouts, but it's nothing crazy. Is leon

442
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 6: Had Edwards a much much better striker? Absolutely not a

443
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 6: bad striker?

444
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 3: No, no, definitely no no.

445
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 8: And again that's the beauty of m m A because

446
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 8: you could get a guy with decent hands that has

447
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 8: great wrestling and it's going to make him look like

448
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 8: he has great hints, you know. So that's what I

449
00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 8: love about the sport and that's what you have to

450
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:01,240
Speaker 8: know navigate through as a fighter.

451
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 9: All Right, we'll get into a third meeting and all

452
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 9: the kamar Usman stuff as well as he sort of

453
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 9: walks back into his new life. But in an effort

454
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Speaker 9: to put this singular win into context, I'll start with you, Kenny.

455
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 9: I have to do this. I have to do this right,

456
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 9: because you know, I've been privileged to sit in that

457
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,959
Speaker 9: seat for eleven years, and certainly for me, this feels

458
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 9: like the singular biggest win in UFC history when you

459
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 9: combine all factors. Now, most people would submit to you that,

460
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,160
Speaker 9: prior to last night, that Holly Holmes win over Ronda

461
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 9: Rousing in twenty fifteen was like the biggest single win

462
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 9: in UFC history. There have been a lot of moments.

463
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Speaker 9: I mean, Longo could make a case for Matt Sarah

464
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 9: over George Saint Pierre. But what kamar Usman was chasing

465
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Speaker 9: last night, that Anderson silver record, twenty consecutive wins, a

466
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 9: sixth title defense, you know, further distancing himself. He had

467
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,160
Speaker 9: already left George Saint Pierre's welterweight record in the distance.

468
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 9: I don't know. For me, when I combine all factors,

469
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 9: this feels like as big a win as I have

470
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Speaker 9: witnessed in UFC history. Do you think that that's fair

471
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,679
Speaker 9: to say? Or do I sound like the promotion cuts

472
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Speaker 9: my check and I'm trying to build a third meeting?

473
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Speaker 6: You know, I think it's a big upset. You know,

474
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Speaker 6: I think it's a decent upset. But I do think

475
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 6: that Leon Edwards had a skill set that was really

476
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Speaker 6: fucking good and was not respected as much as people

477
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 6: should have been. I think there's a bunch of things

478
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 6: going on. If I were to put this in perspective,

479
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 6: and Ray could probably associate with this. Back in the

480
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 6: day when Sarah upset GSP, you know, renegade mma or

481
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 6: renegade jiu jitsu is not on the map. Okay, we

482
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 6: don't give enough respect to that team. We don't give

483
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 6: enough respect to the fighters out of the UK. Maybe

484
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 6: that's warranted, maybe it's not. Leon Edwards was coming into

485
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 6: this with a ten fight unbeaten streak. He's good on

486
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 6: the ground, he's good on the feet, and clearly did

487
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 6: his homework with his wrestling. He's been wrestling his ass off.

488
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 6: That is clear. There was some high level shit going

489
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 6: on that no one else who comes from wrestling backgrounds

490
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 6: was able to do against someone like Kamara Uzma. He

491
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 6: kept getting denied a shot at the title. That he

492
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 6: was being criticized by you know, the UFC and others

493
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 6: for not talking enough. No one knows who you are.

494
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 6: He was clowned by Mosvidal, He was clowned by the

495
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 6: media because of the three piece and a soda. How

496
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 6: many people said that three pieces of a soda? Who's

497
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 6: the three piece of a soda? Guy? It was Mazvedal

498
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 6: doing that to Leon Edwards, right, completely disrespected. He came

499
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 6: from nothing, He's from a small team in the UK

500
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 6: and he goes out and accomplishes this. That makes it

501
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,679
Speaker 6: when you put that all in perspective, but at the

502
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 6: same time, we don't know a whole lot about this

503
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 6: man because he did he did it the right way.

504
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 6: He let his fights in his career do the talking.

505
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 6: He wasn't out there talking shit even when he maybe

506
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 6: could have and could have gone that route. He's a

507
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 6: confident young man who went out there and did it

508
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 6: the right way. And it's just amazing. I think it's

509
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 6: up there, There's no question about it based on what

510
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 6: kamara Uzman has done one hundred percent. But Leon Edwards

511
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,679
Speaker 6: has a skill set man that is very, very impressive.

512
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 6: That is a true mixed martial artist. Kamar Uzman is

513
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 6: a great fighter. He's he a great mixed martial artist.

514
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,959
Speaker 6: Maybe not, and that doesn't mean you have to be

515
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 6: Habiba Martner. Muga Matov was not a great mixed martial

516
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 6: arts if we're talking about all the skill sets, but

517
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 6: he was unbeaten and no one could figure him out.

518
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 6: He was a great fighter, one of the best of

519
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 6: all time. Leon Edwards is a great mixed martial arts

520
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 6: fighter and he showed it. I mean for everything from

521
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 6: how he transitioned to the back and defending himself enough

522
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 6: out of the guard and again, that was him at

523
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 6: high altitude and maybe not on his game like his

524
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 6: coaches expected him to be. So when you put that

525
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 6: in perspective, it's amazing what he was able to accomplish.

526
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 9: It's a tremendous monolig by you. And it almost feels

527
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 9: like my case is bolster, because I'm certainly not trying

528
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 9: to make the case that this is any great upset

529
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 9: in terms of UFC history, even though it was on

530
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 9: the betting line, but in terms of the singular nature

531
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 9: of this win, if Leon Edwards had won by head

532
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 9: kicking round two or round three or by decision, I

533
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 9: wouldn't even be saying it. But when I combined all

534
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 9: of the factors, you know, I think about, like what

535
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 9: Charles Olavera has done and when he broke through and

536
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 9: won the title, that's top five for me for sure

537
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 9: in terms of the biggest wins. But part of that's

538
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 9: because of what he's done after the fact that has

539
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,479
Speaker 9: raised the level of him actually winning the title. Man, Like,

540
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 9: I have a new answer now when people ask me, like,

541
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 9: what's the most memorable, you know, moment that you've ever

542
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 9: seen in UFC history. It happened at UFC two seventy eight.

543
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 9: What do you have for us on that, Raymond?

544
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,360
Speaker 8: No, No, I agree with you on that only because

545
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 8: it was it was in the bag. That's what made

546
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:44,679
Speaker 8: if he was But wait, if he would have had

547
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 8: kicked him in round two, what would have been the

548
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 8: difference to you?

549
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 9: For me, just that it wouldn't have had that theatrical

550
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 9: component to it, and Leon wouldn't at that point have

551
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 9: have had that listless performance on the front end. He

552
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 9: wouldn't have been would.

553
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 8: Because I think all the other ones that we talk

554
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 8: about Kenny, like Sarah and Holly Holm, they came out

555
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 8: of the gate. You kind of knew something was gonna happen,

556
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 8: even when what's the name the the vixen who for

557
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:23,239
Speaker 8: the first Yeah, yeah, sorry about that, but you know,

558
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 8: you knew from the get go something was different. You

559
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 8: knew when Buster Douglas was piecing up Tyson something was different.

560
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 8: The difference with this was he had a great first round,

561
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 8: or he had a good first round, and then he

562
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 8: just let the fight slip right out of his hands,

563
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 8: and then while everybody was just about to give up

564
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 8: on him, but bing he hits and the fights over

565
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 8: and that changes the whole dynamic. I think of how

566
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 8: you look at it, but you know it's going to

567
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 8: make it more memorable because it came out of nowhere.

568
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 8: And I don't think I'll forget it because I remember

569
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 8: screaming in the back like a lunatic.

570
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, I want to get to the Usmann stuff. We

571
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 9: are going to be joined by Nazim Sadakov here in

572
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 9: about five minutes so we can celebrate his winnings contract

573
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 9: and then on the back side of that ray if

574
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 9: it's okay, I we'll get into uh may Rob Dwallis.

575
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 3: Will I'm ready to go.

576
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 9: It went over Jose Aldo. But in terms of Usman

577
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 9: can flow and all the pressure on this athlete now

578
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 9: going into this third fight whenever it is, even if

579
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 9: it's not until March or April of next year, you know,

580
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 9: he's walking back into his new life the way Ronda

581
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 9: Rousey did back in twenty fifteen. But this was a vicious,

582
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 9: vicious knockout, you know. And I guess I'm just curious

583
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 9: as to your thoughts on Usman now as he spins

584
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 9: it forward and tries to right this wrong. For lack

585
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 9: of a better way.

586
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 6: To put it, now, some people are never the same

587
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 6: after a knockout mentally right, because now their confidence is

588
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 6: just completely crumbled. I don't think that's going to be

589
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 6: the case with Uzman now. Sometimes after a knockout, fighters

590
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 6: aren't the same physically. That remains to be seen. We

591
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 6: don't know. It was a pretty bad one, man, it was.

592
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 6: It was a devastating knockout. And he's been fighting a

593
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 6: long time, hasn't hasn't had a lot of damage during fights, though,

594
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 6: in my opinion, it's rare that he's ever been hurt

595
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 6: in a fight, so that bodes well for him. I

596
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 6: don't expect that to be an issue. But all it

597
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 6: takes is one shot to change everything. So no, I mean,

598
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 6: I think Uzman's going to be able to battle back

599
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 6: from this. I think he's going to be stronger from this.

600
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 6: You know, I think it's also a little bit easier

601
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 6: when you did a lot of great things. It's it's

602
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 6: more painful in some ways, but it can also be

603
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 6: easier when you go, man, I was winning that fight.

604
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 6: I was able to battle back from that first round three,

605
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 6: I was, you know, a little bit over a minute

606
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 6: away from winning that fight, and it was just one mistake.

607
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 6: I want to fight this kid again and I'm going

608
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 6: to be perfect this time. So you know, Uzman's going

609
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 6: to be back. And I think that this doesn't really

610
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 6: take away from the kind of fighter that he has

611
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 6: or a legacy that he has either that would be silly.

612
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 6: He is. He is a great fight always will be

613
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 6: uh And I think he's going to be back and

614
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 6: he's going to be a problem for Edwards and everybody

615
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 6: else in that division yet again.

616
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think. I like what Kenny said.

617
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 3: I don't think he's taking a lot of damage.

618
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 8: Nobody's impervious to get knocked out like that, but the

619
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 8: fact that it was one shot, even though it was bad,

620
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 8: I think he'll bode better than like Vincente. Luke, who

621
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 8: took a sustained beating over three rounds that is gonna

622
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 8: be hard to come back from. You know, Kamara Howell's

623
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Speaker 8: Kamar are now thirty five. You know, thirty five, you

624
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 8: have some money, now you're happy? I don't know, you know,

625
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 8: do you have that burning desire to get up every

626
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 8: morning again and do to rebuild or go back to

627
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 8: the gym. You know, he he's at a new gym

628
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 8: technically still right a couple of years Yeah, let's see

629
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 8: what happens. I think that's gonna be more. He's gonna

630
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 8: look at his options. Maybe he's not, but he looks

631
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 8: like the type of guy that he wants to come back.

632
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 6: I don't I don't.

633
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 8: Believe it'll be a fit. It's all on how he's

634
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 8: gonna deal with it, right. I don't think it'll be

635
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 8: a physical factor though.

636
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

637
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 9: Their third meeting is going to be absolutely enormous, so

638
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 9: it it mains to be seen as to whether or

639
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 9: not it'll be Wembley Stadium. But uh, you know, not

640
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 9: since Michael Bisbeing and Dan Henderson has there been a

641
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 9: pay per view in the UK if I'm not mistaken.

642
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 9: So wow, a lot of big things. Let's tell me

643
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 9: it's called Wakanda Arena. Now, is he fucking with me?

644
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 3: I don't know.

645
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 9: Pop culture is gonna.

646
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 7: Go right the rematch.

647
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 6: It's from The Black Panther.

648
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 3: All right.

649
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 9: Sorry. One thing that I was sort of thinking about

650
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 9: that Cody just sort of alerted me to in the

651
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 9: chat you know for you coaches Ray right, like Trevor

652
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 9: Whitman on Top of the World about eighteen months ago,

653
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 9: Nama Yunis Gai chee Ousman all with belts if I'm

654
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 9: not mistaken at the same time, and uh, you know,

655
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 9: just this sport is just absolutely crazy. Like all I

656
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 9: really want to do on this podcast today is just

657
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 9: sit here and cuss with my friends and like say,

658
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 9: nothing articulate or clear and just have it being a banter.

659
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 9: Like literally, what's going through my head during the show

660
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 9: is Leon fucking Edwards. But what like, all I want

661
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 9: to do is have Cody just play that audio and

662
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 9: you know, and intersperse the rocky music and all of that.

663
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 9: But we are going to now welcome into the conversation

664
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 9: newly minted UFC fighter. Wow, proudly putting Azerbaijan on the

665
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 9: map in the UFC.

666
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 3: Look at that.

667
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 8: Now, you gotta you gotta guy. You got a guy

668
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 8: that could pronounce your name where you come from a

669
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 8: better than.

670
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, man capulation.

671
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 11: Getting ready to do that for three years.

672
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 9: I'm trying my man. Before we talk about your big

673
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 9: win and uh breaking into UFC contract as a fellow

674
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 9: UFC fighter, I just have to get your thoughts on

675
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 9: that Leon Edwards knockout. And I would imagine you were

676
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 9: watching live.

677
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 11: Yeah, I was just I was shocked, just like everybody else.

678
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 12: I mean I already rolled Edwards off just based on

679
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 12: his body language on the stool in between the rounds

680
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 12: and going into the.

681
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 11: Progressive or fifth, I already had it in for tomorrow.

682
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 12: I'm already talked, you know, talking to my friends what

683
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 12: we're gonna do after, what we're gonna that.

684
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 11: Yeah, and that happens, so you can imagine I was

685
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 11: just as shocked as you guys. Absolutely insane moment.

686
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 9: Yeah that's interesting, right, Yeah, we're actually like walking out

687
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 9: during the final Yeah, that's right.

688
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 8: And John, if you want to see a guy that

689
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 8: could do that exact technique to perfection, you're looking at him.

690
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know how many times? How many times do

691
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 3: we do that? I was so.

692
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 12: Excited to see that because Leon I don't know if

693
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 12: he's a natural southall, but he definitely switches and he

694
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 12: throws a lot from South past. So that was very

695
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 12: nice to see. And I'm not somebody that just gets

696
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 12: up and walks away and writes spice off. But I

697
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 12: mean when you're in the final minute, yeah, sure, four

698
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 12: rounds of straight Uh, I guess you could call a

699
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 12: domination because it was it was one sided for sure.

700
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 11: Then yeah, you'll you'll that that's a big shock.

701
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 9: If you had put ten dollars on the live line

702
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 9: late in that fight, I can't even imagine what the

703
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 9: return would have been. I hope I'm not throwing my

704
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 9: twin brother under the bus. But like the dude, he

705
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 9: wasn't fighting the fatigue, but he fell asleep in round four.

706
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 9: Fucking wakes up.

707
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 3: Now. But that might be great.

708
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 8: That might be a great experience too, where you pass

709
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 8: out because you know what the ending is going to

710
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 8: be and you wake up and you can't figure it out.

711
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 3: That that might be it.

712
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 9: Even when you saw the footage of his gym in Birmingham,

713
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 9: you know, I mean a lot of those folks were

714
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 9: just having to be brought back to life. Of course,

715
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 9: it's a much later hour there, all right, But Nazim,

716
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 9: let us get into you because a couple of weeks

717
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 9: ago it was a big win to punch your ticket

718
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 9: to the UFC. So for this audience, I guess your

719
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 9: thoughts on that performance and all the pressure going into it, right,

720
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 9: and especially this season, because it seems like there's an

721
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 9: even more heightened focus on the finish, just given how

722
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 9: Week one went, when you know largely Dana was unimpressed.

723
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 9: So what were your thoughts in terms of what you

724
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 9: needed to do going into this fight?

725
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 12: And I think watching a week one automatically, there's this

726
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 12: added pressure because Dana gets on the stand and he

727
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 12: just pretty much rejects everybody that didn't have a knockout.

728
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 12: And then week two was one of the most hectic

729
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 12: weeks we've ever seen in Contenders, and then there was

730
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 12: Week three, and then I was up at Week four

731
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 12: this past Tuesday. So as when it first happened, when

732
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 12: week one and weeks week on weeks one, so yeah,

733
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:54,959
Speaker 12: so when weeks one.

734
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 11: And two first happened, of course there was added pressure.

735
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 12: But as the weeks went by and training camp was

736
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 12: coming to a close, I think like that pressure just

737
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 12: came off, and by the time we were warming up

738
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 12: in the locker room, I felt I felt ready to perform,

739
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 12: Like I didn't feel any out of pressure whatsoever. It

740
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 12: felt like just another fight in the regional circuit. To

741
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 12: be honest, and Dana being there. It wasn't like a

742
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 12: it wasn't a thing. It was just I just felt

743
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 12: like it was my new job with my new boss,

744
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 12: and and that's it. I'm just gonna go do a

745
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 12: job interview, and knowing my style, I didn't really have

746
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 12: like added pressure.

747
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 3: I wasn't.

748
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 11: I'm not.

749
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 12: I'm not like a pure bread wrestler that has to

750
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 12: go out there and start striking more than than he

751
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 12: would like to. I'm a striker that can't again in

752
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 12: somebody's guarden and land the elbows that I was landing in.

753
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 11: The first round.

754
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 12: So to be honest with you, like there's all the

755
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 12: occasion in the world for an athlete to have pressure,

756
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 12: but I didn't feel it. The closer we got to

757
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 12: the fight, I didn't feel it at all. And wake Cup,

758
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 12: we was so smooth. I had Algael, I had Algeamin

759
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 12: around me, Morob for Vola, and these guys made my

760
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 12: life so easy.

761
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 11: I just I cut literally like six pounds.

762
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 12: We got like, we got like a whole ten pounds

763
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 12: down from just diet, from just listening to their advice the.

764
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 11: Water, their waterloading protocols, so it was easy.

765
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 12: I got down side one sixty May one fifty five

766
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 12: and there was no pressure after that.

767
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 9: So you moved to the US pretty young?

768
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 11: Yes, yes, I grew up in Brooklyn.

769
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 9: How old were you when you moved to the States?

770
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 11: Six? I was six when I moved to the States.

771
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 9: And combat sambo was your first martial art, is that right?

772
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 3: Yeah?

773
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 12: So in Brooklyn there's a bunch of a bunch of

774
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 12: people from ex Soviet Union, so all the martial arts

775
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 12: like restaurants, school there's still schools that are in uh

776
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 12: there's a Russian schools, Turkish schools.

777
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 11: There's all.

778
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,959
Speaker 12: It's like an immigrant city. So I even though I moved,

779
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 12: I pretty much was still trained. I was still around

780
00:37:55,560 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 12: people from former Soviet Union. So my first coach was Krainian.

781
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 12: My hand to hand combat slash combat was this Ukrainian guy.

782
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 12: So yeah, I was training with him from like from

783
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 12: when I moved here, pretty much from six years old.

784
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 9: All right, So as you spin it forward for your

785
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 9: UFC debut, when would you like that to be and

786
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 9: relative to any short notice opportunity, will you be staying

787
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 9: ready because you know, sometimes you get the higher profile

788
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 9: name with a shorter training camp three or four weeks

789
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 9: even as opposed to eight.

790
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 11: Yeah, I will definitely open to that. I do have

791
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 11: a few bumps of losers from the fight. I'm going

792
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 11: to recover that.

793
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 12: I'm going to Zerbijan in a few days and I'm

794
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 12: going to start training over there, so pretty much when

795
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,439
Speaker 12: I come back from pretty much October on, I'll be ready.

796
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 12: I would like MSG. That would be ideal. Yeah, that

797
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 12: would be a great debut, I think, but anything goes,

798
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 12: you know. I'm just I'm happy to be in the UFC,

799
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 12: and I whenever the fights will happen, however much I

800
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 12: will fight year, which I hope will be.

801
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 11: I hope to stay super super active. I just looked

802
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 11: put on good fights.

803
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 9: Well, just know that eighteen months ago Ray started dropping

804
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 9: the name nas on the Anakin floor in podcast. So

805
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 9: for us, it's nice to finally meet you, especially having

806
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 9: now gotten that UFC contract. Enjoy the rest of your

807
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 9: week and we will, uh we'll be tracking you pretty

808
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 9: uh pretty closely, my man. Thank you for your time.

809
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 11: Thank you guys, Thank you so much.

810
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 9: Deem Sodakov another team Sarah long ago man, Sarah's a

811
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 9: little icy with me, you know, I don't know if

812
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 9: it's just just all over the place.

813
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 11: He's icy with me.

814
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 6: There's no.

815
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 9: You, and I don't think he could look me in

816
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 9: the eye, you know, for a thousand bucks. He does

817
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 9: love me, though not as much as I asked. I

818
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 9: asked the guy for a picture. He's looking at me

819
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 9: like he wants to fight me.

820
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 3: But no, definitely, definitely not. I'll tell you right now.

821
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 3: He does. He does bring up the shirt thing too much, weird,

822
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 3: too much, But he did mention a bunch of he

823
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 3: loves you. I don't know.

824
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 8: I'm gonna say, you're your sensitive because he attacked you

825
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 8: on the other thing and you haven't got Oh did.

826
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 3: He attack Cody?

827
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 9: He well, he didn't. I guess he didn't attack Cody.

828
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 9: He communicated with Cody. But no, I mean, I'm having

829
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 9: a little bit of fun obviously.

830
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 6: You know.

831
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 3: I went out with him, and I went out with

832
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 3: him and Dean Thomas.

833
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 8: We had a great dinner. He starts bringing up the

834
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 8: shirt thing the Dean. I'm like, what the fuck is

835
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 8: about with you? I go, he I don't want to.

836
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 8: I didn't want to get into it on you, but

837
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 8: it was funny. I go, Holy, but listen, to have

838
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 8: a friend like that is a good thing, right. The

839
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 8: guy's always got my.

840
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 9: Back, so I get it. I get it, but but

841
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 9: I mean it's so weird for me. I literally have

842
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 9: not taken one dollar from Ana.

843
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 3: No, no, stop, you see you don't silly though.

844
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 9: It really is though, like I just.

845
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 3: Kenyan, Yeah, Kenny, it's a good position of being. Right.

846
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 8: You got a lot of young guys that think you

847
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 8: can't defend yourself. Many I feel blessed with these guys

848
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 8: because they they they come to your defense real quick, man,

849
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 8: all of them.

850
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 3: Everybody but Sarah, you know what you get with have.

851
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 9: Man, no doubt about it, no doubt about it. So

852
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 9: in terms of my relative happiness for Leon Edwards, I

853
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 9: just sort of wanted to close with that and then

854
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 9: we'll get to Morab and everything else. Like I'm just

855
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 9: so happy for the guy, like I really am. And

856
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 9: Kamar Usman is certainly my closer friend in this equation

857
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 9: right tomorrow, and I go way way back to twenty fifteen.

858
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 9: Kamar is the guy whose cell phone number I have.

859
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 9: But I can't profess enough just how happy I am

860
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 9: for this individual and what this means for his team,

861
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 9: his family, the United Kingdom, Jamaica. Like it's just a huge,

862
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 9: huge thing. So if you guys have something on that,

863
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 9: I'd love to hear it, and then we'll move on.

864
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 3: Oh, Okay, who doesn't like a Cinderella story? Right? Who

865
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 3: doesn't like those stories.

866
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 8: I mean, and again, not a guy that's in your face,

867
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 8: not a guy that's acting like a complete jerk off,

868
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 8: not a guy that's getting into trouble.

869
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 3: I don't know. We got to embrace these guys more

870
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 3: than me.

871
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 8: I don't want to, you know, I hate shining the

872
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 8: light on guys that are always screwing up in that

873
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 8: stand for absolutely nothing. But this kid's got a great backstory.

874
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 8: Those guys seem like again, the little I've got to

875
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 8: know them well, good sense of humor, down to earth,

876
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 8: humble people can't be happy for the guy and his team.

877
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 9: When did New Yorkers start pronouncing humor with a y?

878
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 10: Like?

879
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 9: When did that happen? It's an a front of that word.

880
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 9: It's human.

881
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 3: Explain that to me. No, we don't have time, so

882
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 3: what say it? Say it with a Say it with

883
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 3: a why though.

884
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 9: Oh, he's got a good sense to uma, you know,

885
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 9: all good sense and that's not that's Arizona.

886
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 3: But that's not.

887
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 8: That's not an h to you what you just said. No, No,

888
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 8: the guy, the guy that doesn't even park a.

889
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 3: Car, it's pocket.

890
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 9: Depends how you say it. Boston cars. At the end

891
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 9: of the world, you know, pack your car and have

892
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 9: a jacky.

893
00:42:58,400 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 3: What is that? What does that mean?

894
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 9: I don't know.

895
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 3: Oh mister so, mister pronunciation.

896
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,479
Speaker 9: So I did go Morob and not may Rob because

897
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 9: my producer zac him to the podcast and he was like,

898
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 9: you're not going to do this to me with may

899
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 9: Rob may Rob. So Marob Dwalachwillie twenty nine to twenty

900
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 9: eight times two and thirty to twenty seven by unanimous

901
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 9: decision over the King of Rio Jose Aldo Junior. Morob

902
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 9: was hanging out in the hotel lobby deep into the night,

903
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 9: so I got to congratulate him and tell him that

904
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 9: I thought it was thirty to twenty seven, man like,

905
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 9: with respect to the legend and his legendary coach Andre Peternarras.

906
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 9: I thought this was a clean sweep for you guys.

907
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 9: And to win a fight without a takedown against Jose Aldo, right,

908
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 9: just incredible.

909
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 3: Man.

910
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 9: You gotta feel super happy for your guy.

911
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 8: I think, look a great super happy isn't even the word.

912
00:43:56,200 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 8: Look against a guy that's still very, very dangerous what

913
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 8: he did in that fight. I'd like to hear what

914
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 8: why he thinks he won that fight? Why he was

915
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 8: pandering to the crowd. I have no fucking clue. Crazy look,

916
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 8: I could tell you if you guys were talking about it.

917
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 8: In between the first and second round, I was in

918
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 8: a state of shock at how little he did. Like

919
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 8: a state of shock because I didn't want Morob to

920
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 8: engage in the pocket whill we wanted the movement, keep

921
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 8: them offset with the fakes, you know, just mix up

922
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 8: your variety of things you're doing. And for him to

923
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 8: just stand there and do absolutely nothing was was crazy.

924
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 8: That's why I said to Morab, pick it up with

925
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 8: your strikes. He's got so much respect, I guess for

926
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 8: the takedowns. He's not pulling the trigger on anything. That

927
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 8: was That was my thought going into the second.

928
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 9: Round, Kenny. At one point, our interpreter Fabiano said to

929
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 9: our producer Lappie in the truck. I'm not sure if

930
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 9: this made it to broadcast, but he said that Andre

931
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 9: Peternaris was actually telling Jose Aldo in Brazilian Portuguese to

932
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 9: run clock to kill clock, so much so that our

933
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 9: interpreter felt the need to pass that along to the truck. Largely,

934
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 9: I'm aligned with Ray on this. What were your thoughts

935
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 9: on Jose Aldo's performance here against against the boogeyman may Rob.

936
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 6: Yeah. Ray, it was spot on in analysis, and Ray

937
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 6: was spot on during the fight what he was telling

938
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 6: Morob during the fight in between rounds, because to me, yeah,

939
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 6: it was really shocking, and I heard that same thing.

940
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 6: They were comfortable, they thought they were winning the fight.

941
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 6: Maybe he won the race. Maybe he won round one

942
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 6: just because maybe he was more effective as a striker,

943
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 6: maybe because he landed bigger shots. But again that's open

944
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 6: to interpretation. But the next two rounds, I thought what

945
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 6: was really smart was Morob was threatening with that takedown

946
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 6: and it shut down jose Aldo striking completely.

947
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 3: Yes, now, now.

948
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 6: Morob wasn't effectiveness with its grappling right, and he wasn't

949
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 6: landing big shots on the feet, but he was clearly

950
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 6: staying way busier than Josieldo. So that's what it came

951
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 6: down to was aggression and you know what you were

952
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 6: doing out there? Jose Aldo was throwing nothing towards Morob.

953
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 6: How was he going to win that fight, which is

954
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 6: by like looking for one big shot like well, he

955
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 6: had a couple of well time knees, but Morob was

956
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 6: like it did nothing to Morob, didn't get hurt, He

957
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 6: didn't bow over from it. He just kept coming forward.

958
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 6: So again I was really perplexed by that approach from

959
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 6: Jose Aldo. And here's the thing and and and sometimes

960
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 6: they're right, is you have a big name like a

961
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 6: Jose Aldo and he's won certain fights like that, and

962
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 6: you think, because you've done that in the past, and

963
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 6: you were the bigger name, uh, and some little guy

964
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,280
Speaker 6: who's coming up who's trying to beat you, the judges

965
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,280
Speaker 6: are going to go with the big name fighter. Sometimes

966
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 6: that happens, right, That was not the case. That's not

967
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 6: the way it should be. Morob did a tremendous job

968
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 6: of putting the pressure on Jose though. That's how you

969
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 6: win the fight. I wasn't sure of how successful he

970
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 6: is going to be takedown wise, but I knew he

971
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 6: was going to be busier and he did it from

972
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 6: the clinch. He was nonst up with knees and it

973
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 6: just shut down Jose Aldo completely. In order to beat

974
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 6: Jose Aldo. And this is something I tried to figure out.

975
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 6: I wasn't as effective as you know Morob in this case,

976
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 6: but you have to back him up. It shuts down

977
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 6: his kicks was a huge part of his offense. And

978
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 6: if you get him up against the cage, it's going

979
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 6: to take a lot of that sting and speed away

980
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 6: from him. You make the cage small, you pressure him

981
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 6: and you and you stay on him. That's exactly what

982
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 6: Morob did, and it was brilliant and I agree. You know,

983
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 6: Jose Aldo is still a problem for so many guys

984
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 6: out there. One of the most skilled fighters, not in

985
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 6: the division, one of the most skilled fighters in the

986
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 6: UFC period. You had the experience factor onto that, and

987
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 6: that's a problem. Where he failed though, was in h

988
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 6: strategy and maybe intelligence a little bit in this fight.

989
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 6: I think he was kind of out smarter here.

990
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 8: Yeah, maybe maybe we should have told Marob, why why

991
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 8: don't you go out and box with him for the

992
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 8: first would strength?

993
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 3: Are you at you?

994
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 8: I mean, but he looked for one big shot and

995
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 8: then before you know what, the rounds over. He's and

996
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 8: he said he was going to go forward to win

997
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 8: the fight.

998
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 3: This is what he said. I'm going to go forward

999
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 3: and be aggressive, not zero.

1000
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 8: Morob chased the guy around the ring in the third round,

1001
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 8: walked him around the ring.

1002
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I don't know, well, no, I can't.

1003
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,439
Speaker 9: I think I think it speaks to how good.

1004
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 8: And I'm telling you, I was in shock on how

1005
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 8: little he did. I did not anticipate that at all.

1006
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 8: I thought he'd come out guns blazing, waiting, waiting, waiting,

1007
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 8: waiting for what.

1008
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 9: When Rose watches back that fight against Carla as Barza,

1009
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 9: that second one, and obviously at this point she has

1010
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 9: she was enlightened to the fact that she was, you know,

1011
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 9: grossly inactive. And I do think for DDI and for

1012
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 9: Aldo ken Flow, you know they're going to watch this

1013
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 9: back and have some regret. And maybe I don't know,

1014
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 9: it's just really my numbing, right, really my numbing, especially

1015
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 9: that third round. But hey, I mean, the story's the guy.

1016
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,720
Speaker 8: But at that point, though, he's already tied, right, because

1017
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 8: that's what we wanted to do, wear him out against

1018
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 8: the cage. If you can't get him down, you don't

1019
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 8: have to expend a lot of energy. Stayed busy with

1020
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 8: the knees. I don't give a shit what guy thinks

1021
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 8: that the guy wasn't doing damage. Any of those fucking

1022
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 8: numbnuts go up against the cage. I get guaranteed, Kenny,

1023
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 8: after three knees in the leg, they're fucking begging for mercy, right, yeah,

1024
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 8: for about twenty Yeah, and how.

1025
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 6: Many people out there in the world that could say

1026
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 6: that they could shut down someone with the offensive Yeah,

1027
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 6: kills just but you know, more thanything else. I think

1028
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 6: jose Aldo thought that just by stopping takedowns, he was

1029
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 6: winning that fight, and the reality is no, that was

1030
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 6: not the case. Morob was stayed busy with mes consistently,

1031
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 6: and I agree, John, I think they're gonna go back

1032
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 6: and watch that fight, and I think if they're being

1033
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 6: honest with themselves, they're gonna go we fucked up and.

1034
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 8: Want He didn't want to take the chance of gassing

1035
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 8: out either, yeah, right, so he just stood there get

1036
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 8: in need and that was like, again, horrible, horrible game plan.

1037
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 8: You can't expect to anybody that thinks he won that

1038
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,720
Speaker 8: fight as an absolute moron.

1039
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 9: Jose Auto could have bided his time and potentially gotten

1040
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 9: a championship opportunity. Right, he was given a shot at

1041
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 9: the vacant phantom weight title against Pyotr Jan coming off

1042
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 9: a loss against Marlon Madie. Now granted it was a

1043
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 9: controversial loss, but here he had won three in a row.

1044
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 9: But he said to us in the fighter Manue, he

1045
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 9: didn't want to wait, and I think a lot of

1046
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,240
Speaker 9: us were surprised to see Joseaudo matched up with Morob

1047
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 9: and not somebody like Dominic Cruz for whatever reason. And

1048
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 9: certainly this matchup maybe had more stylistic challenges than some

1049
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 9: others that he could have taken. But as we spin

1050
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 9: this forward, for Morob, like I would like to see

1051
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 9: your guy in a main event, I think his style

1052
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 9: over five rounds he would play well, So I think

1053
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 9: that should be the focus. But uh, what do you think?

1054
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 9: I mean, it really doesn't have anything to do with

1055
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 9: Al Joe because at least right now, you're gonna find

1056
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 9: yourself in a title eliminator, main event type fight. What

1057
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 9: do you think? I mean, is it sand Haagen? If

1058
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 9: he beats song, you don't? I mean, what are your

1059
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 9: thoughts on Morob? The timeline feels like you could turn

1060
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 9: him around pretty quickly here after a pretty playoff.

1061
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 3: I gotta tell you, he is totally untouched.

1062
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 8: He I think that was as far as physical abuse,

1063
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,399
Speaker 8: that's his easiest fight he's had in a long time.

1064
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think he could fight Domina Cruz,

1065
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 9: you know, but Cruse is on the mend and Cruise.

1066
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 9: I don't think would do a main event against Marob

1067
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 9: at least right now. You know, they could do a

1068
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 9: main event with Cheeto and Morob and a title eliminator.

1069
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 9: As we pull up the rankings here, you know, Dylashaw

1070
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 9: obviously is going to fight your guy for the belt.

1071
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 9: Sand Haagan is going to fight Song You don't Kidrianna

1072
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 9: is gonna fight Sugar Shan O'Malley. You know, maybe you

1073
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 9: do a New York versus Boston thing, Rob Font versus

1074
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 9: may Rob d Wallace Willie in the main event.

1075
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 3: You know, look, he's gonna want to stay busy. I

1076
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 3: tell you one other thing too.

1077
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 8: Everybody was bitching about the altitude, you know, the out

1078
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 8: I tell you one guy, it didn't affect all right.

1079
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 8: It is nuts though that guy would he would I

1080
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 8: swear that he could do for another ten rounds, because

1081
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 8: that's yeah.

1082
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 9: And I actually think you can argue on the altitude

1083
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 9: that it's either overstated or understated. You know, I'll tell

1084
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 9: you ken flow. To me, it doesn't feel like Colorado

1085
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 9: bad and it's not that high. Certainly it is in

1086
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 9: Mexico City right at all, and at least for me

1087
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 9: as a guy who's running four or five miles on

1088
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 9: a treadmill. I'll tell you I was sweating more, but

1089
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 9: I didn't feel it in my lungs nearly the way

1090
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 9: I do when I go to whatever the hell.

1091
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 3: And listen whatever that means. I agree with you one

1092
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty.

1093
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 8: Man, no, because I tell you I said the same

1094
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 8: thing I said that town, Joey, go out do nothing.

1095
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 8: When I'm in Colorado, I woke up those stairs. I'm

1096
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 8: huffing and buffing. I don't feel a goddamn thing here,

1097
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 8: you know what I mean. Like, I'm not an athlete,

1098
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 8: I'm fucking sixty four, but I would feel it.

1099
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 3: Trust me.

1100
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 8: I've been to a couple of places where I'm like, wow,

1101
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 8: this you really feel that sucking on your you know,

1102
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:17,720
Speaker 8: into your lungs.

1103
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 3: So but so, I don't know if it's maybe where

1104
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 3: you came from. I don't know.

1105
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 6: Yeah. The greatest fight excuse of all time was when

1106
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 6: I fought Joe Loson. And Joe's a good kid, but

1107
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 6: I I thought him, Yeah. I fought him in Denver

1108
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 6: and he said I would have beat Florian if it

1109
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 6: was at sea level, And I was like, what do

1110
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 6: you think? I thought you at sea level, like we're

1111
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 6: all in the same boat here, like you know, and

1112
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 6: I think listen, preparation is a big thing mental you know,

1113
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 6: mentally it's a big thing. I know, you know, genetics

1114
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,800
Speaker 6: is a real thing to Everyone reacts differently. But like,

1115
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 6: out of all the guys on that card, if I

1116
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 6: was like, who's the guy that doesn't get tired or

1117
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 6: was least affected by him, that was going to be

1118
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 6: that guy mentally physically was not going to be affected

1119
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 6: by any of that ship. I will say that.

1120
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 9: I will say he was very drained during fight week.

1121
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 9: Al Jamaine Sterling pulled me aside and said that Morob

1122
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 9: was having a little bit of hard time with the

1123
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 9: ad media grime. You know, normally for our fighter meeting,

1124
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 9: he's outside waiting five minutes early. He was a little

1125
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 9: bit later. So it's not like he is completely bulletproof,

1126
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:28,399
Speaker 9: like I said on the broadcast, right, like he fights

1127
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 9: as if he's another species, Like he's not like a

1128
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 9: human being, like he he's special man. But what's the

1129
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 9: altitude in in uh like forty five hundred okay, so

1130
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 9: it is less than Denver?

1131
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 6: Okay.

1132
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 9: Yeah, And as a broadcaster, like I don't know at

1133
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:49,320
Speaker 9: times how much to lean into it versus not. But Kenny,

1134
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 9: please don't get me started on Joe los On right now.

1135
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 9: I mean, he's still on the active roster. I still

1136
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 9: have to call los On's fights. So so don't don't

1137
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 9: start Colorado right now. Because the other the other I mean,

1138
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 9: if why you know these guys fighting Boston a couple

1139
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 9: of weeks, if we really need to do this, you.

1140
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 8: Know, well, John, the other the other thing is al

1141
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 8: Joe had text me because I hope we didn't screw

1142
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 8: up with the altitude.

1143
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 3: I go, what is he said?

1144
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 8: Four thousand? Vegas is two thousands. So I look up

1145
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 8: New Mexico. It's like fifty seven hundred. So I go,

1146
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 8: I don't think we have to worry because in New Mexico. Remember,

1147
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 8: we didn't even tell them there was an altitude problem.

1148
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 8: We just sent them out there. We made a decision

1149
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 8: not even to bring it up because we probably screwed

1150
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 8: it up. I'm not even joking. So I said, I

1151
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 8: think I think he's gonna be good. I go, I

1152
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 8: think he's gonna be good. Yeah, he's a savage for sure.

1153
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 9: Ray, would you like to spend five minutes with us

1154
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 9: on Palo Costa and Luke Rocko before you go or

1155
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 9: would you like to go right now?

1156
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 3: No, I'm good, I'm good.

1157
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 8: You know, Like again, I saw I saw the fights

1158
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 8: in spurts, and honestly, a lot of times I was

1159
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 8: laughing during it, which is horrible. I want to go

1160
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 8: back and look at because people said it was a

1161
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 8: great fight, but I you know, I saw exhaustion. I

1162
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 8: don't know what the hell I was looking at, to

1163
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,720
Speaker 8: be honestly, but I was. I was right after Morob

1164
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 8: so I didn't have a clear head, but the it's told.

1165
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 9: So ken Flow. You know, I was a little bit

1166
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 9: criticized for saying on the post fight show that relative

1167
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 9: to his skill set that Luke Rockhold's career is a

1168
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 9: little bit rooted in underachievement. I said something to that end.

1169
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 9: You know, when Luke Rockhold beat Chris Widman, I thought

1170
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 9: I was looking at a guy whose skill for skill

1171
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 9: was the best middleweight I had ever seen, and just

1172
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 9: given all the grappling and striking credentials that he was

1173
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 9: going to go down as an all time great. You know,

1174
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 9: I didn't mean to anything by it. You know, what

1175
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 9: were your thoughts on the co main event that ultimately

1176
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 9: went to Polo Costa thirty to twenty seven.

1177
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 6: Across the board, you could say anything about any fighter.

1178
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 6: There's going to be someone who criticized right right saying it.

1179
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 6: But no, I think that's fair. Absolutely. I think that's fair.

1180
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,800
Speaker 6: Why Because you think highly of Luke Rockhold's skills and

1181
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 6: his athleticism, and I do as well. I think that

1182
00:56:56,040 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 6: his career while in Press Fascinate is underwhelming. I think

1183
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 6: he could have accomplished even more, you know, based on

1184
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 6: you know the guy, you could You could have Luke

1185
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 6: rock Hole do any sport and he's good at it.

1186
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 6: And I've heard about him on a skateboard, and I've

1187
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,959
Speaker 6: heard about him on a surfboard, and I've heard about

1188
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 6: him playing basketball. Like he could do anything. You know,

1189
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 6: He's just that kind of a dude. He's built for athletics.

1190
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 6: I think that he's dealt with a lot of injuries.

1191
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 6: I think he's made some some poor decisions during fights,

1192
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 6: and he's always been susceptible to a left hook because

1193
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 6: of his lead right hand. He just tends to drop

1194
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 6: it all the time. I kind of tended to drop

1195
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 6: it as well as a south Pye, you can do

1196
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 6: that a little bit. But anyways, Yeah, Luke, Luke was

1197
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 6: gonna have those issues always unless he fixed that stuff.

1198
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 6: And he showed an insane amount of heart in this

1199
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 6: fight against Costa that that was never an issue, but

1200
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 6: he made some poor decisions. Again, being away from the

1201
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,439
Speaker 6: fight game for that long was tough. I still think

1202
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 6: if you took if you took the individual parts aside

1203
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 6: from one takedown that he shot from like a mile away,

1204
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 6: if you take some of those technical aspects individually, he

1205
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 6: looked phenomenal, very technically, way more technically sound that I've

1206
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 6: seen him in the past. Clearly had the heart and

1207
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 6: desire to want to keep fighting, but obviously was affected

1208
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 6: by the altitude or maybe the lack of preparation. I

1209
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 6: don't know, but it was it was a tough way

1210
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 6: to go out because it was just a brutal It

1211
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 6: was a brutal fight for him, and I think either time, Age,

1212
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 6: Paulo Costa, maybe a combination of all those things was

1213
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 6: a reminder that he probably shouldn't be doing this anyway.

1214
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 9: A brutal way to go out, perhaps in terms of

1215
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 9: some of the damage sustained, but I think Laura Sanko

1216
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 9: suggested that he kind of needed to like get this

1217
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 9: out of his system. And I do think when he

1218
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 9: looks back at this can like not a terrible way

1219
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 9: to go out all things considered A fight at the

1220
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 9: night certainly a memorable fight. I mean, I know, obviously

1221
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 9: he didn't win, and he didn't win a single round.

1222
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 6: You know, well, what does she mean? What does she

1223
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 6: mean that she he wanted to get that out of

1224
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 6: his system?

1225
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:19,439
Speaker 9: I don't you were obviously calling the PFL and doing

1226
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 9: a lot of different things, but dude, did you, like,

1227
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 9: were you getting the sense of just how intense and

1228
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 9: angry Luke Rockold was all weak?

1229
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 3: Like?

1230
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 9: I think maybe she was thinking, like he just needed

1231
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 9: to have this fight and have this war and exhale,

1232
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 9: you know, not necessarily having to do with wins or losses,

1233
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 9: you know, but he was just so angry all week,

1234
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 9: you know, and I didn't think he was going to

1235
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 9: be able to necessarily channel it in the right way.

1236
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 9: And I'm not sure that he was given this performance,

1237
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 9: you know, I don't know.

1238
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, okay, well, well that's fair.

1239
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 3: I think.

1240
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 6: It's possible I should have to go out by taking

1241
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 6: all of that damage but I think his emotions, his

1242
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 6: emotions were leading the way. Yeah, for a lot of

1243
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 6: those decisions, like again, he knows better to not shoot

1244
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 6: away from ten feet like he was gonna shoot from

1245
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 6: ten feet way. He also instead of you know, calmly

1246
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 6: and methodically passing the guard like we've seen him doing it,

1247
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 6: he's spassing through.

1248
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 3: Trying to just jump in the mountain.

1249
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 6: You're like, dude, yeah, you know jiu jitsu doesn't work

1250
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 6: that way, right, Like you're so much better than that.

1251
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 6: Why are you doing that?

1252
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 3: And what and Joe, what makes that fight at the night?

1253
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 8: Well even what Kenny just said, because when it hit

1254
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 8: the ground, I go, wow, he's gonna submit him. Well,

1255
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 8: no question in my mind. But like he said that,

1256
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 8: that's not Luke rock Hole's jiu jitsu game. That guy's

1257
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 8: got a great mma jiu jitsu game.

1258
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 3: What made it a great fight?

1259
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 9: The point?

1260
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 3: Right?

1261
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 9: So I remember, like Anthony Smith was critical of Yuri

1262
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 9: pro Hoska versus Glover to share everybody's saying this is

1263
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:52,959
Speaker 9: the fight of the year and he's seeing both guys

1264
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 9: fight in a sloppy, undisciplined, un technical way. So I

1265
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 9: go up to do the post fight show, and Dean

1266
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 9: Thomas and Anthony Smith, you know, don't have anything really

1267
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 9: nice to say about Paulo Costa's performance, despite the fact

1268
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 9: that he'd just beat Movac, you know, in a wash

1269
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 9: thirty to twenty seven. So I guess I hear some

1270
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 9: of what you're saying. I'm not the expert here like

1271
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 9: I was as.

1272
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 3: So, man, I just you know, even the whole thing

1273
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 3: was bizarre. But he didn't.

1274
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 8: I talked to Luke during the week. He seemed very

1275
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 8: chill to me. He didn't seem angry at all. It

1276
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 8: seemed I can't believe. I'm finding that hard to believe

1277
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 8: because he seemed, uh, even more outgoing than he normally was.

1278
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 3: And uh, I don't know. I just think I think

1279
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 3: he said it. He's getting old, and I think you

1280
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 3: feel it.

1281
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 8: Man, there is no There was one time he got

1282
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 8: punched in the face, and again I wasn't watching the

1283
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 8: whole fight, So yeah, I really don't he got it,

1284
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 8: didn't even like it didn't rock him.

1285
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 3: He was like, ouch, like I know he did exactly,

1286
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 3: yeah right, Like I'm like, and I'm going, yeah.

1287
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, what the fuck am I looking at? I

1288
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 8: have no fucking idea what I'm looking at. And then

1289
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 8: when he was licking him or whatever he was doing

1290
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 8: at the end with the blow, what am I?

1291
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 3: What was I like? Again? I think, but I think

1292
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Speaker 3: he was. I think Laura is.

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01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 8: I think Laura Seko is dead on whatever he had

1294
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 8: to get out of his system. I think he was

1295
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 8: accomplishing and with everything. But you know how that gets Kenny.

1296
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 8: You don't even get hurt. It's like, I don't want

1297
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Speaker 8: to get kicked.

1298
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Speaker 3: In the leg anymore. This fucking.

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Speaker 8: It's not like you know, it's not like you're even

1300
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 8: gonna stop. It's like you gotta be fucking kidding me.

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01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 8: My leg hurts. I mean that's what I was, That's

1302
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 8: what I was seeing.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, Hey, congratulations on a big week for you getting

1305
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 9: Nas into the UFC and uh Rob with a win

1306
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 9: over the al Timer Jodo. I mean, when you can

1307
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 9: add a green stripe over al Though to your resume

1308
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:47,919
Speaker 9: that listen.

1309
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 3: I think Cody brought it up. We got wins over

1310
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 3: gsp Anderson Silver and Jose Aldo. I mean, who the fuck?

1311
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 3: I mean, what else? What you what you want from me?

1312
01:02:58,560 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 7: You know?

1313
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 9: It was, Hey, if there was like a real m M.

1314
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 9: A Hall of Fame. Longo would go in as a

1315
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 9: coach here.

1316
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 3: Nobody knows the way.

1317
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 8: But listen, wait before we go, though, I gotta shout

1318
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 8: out a comment. A couple of nice people shout out

1319
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 8: to Steve. I'm going to screw his name of for Forager.

1320
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 8: I think it's one of the judges down there. What

1321
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 8: a sweet guy, big fan of the show. You guys

1322
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 8: got to start respecting people that are put put putting

1323
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 8: food on your table. And uh, the other thing I

1324
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:29,919
Speaker 8: want to say, you think.

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Speaker 9: This podcast makes hundreds of thousands of.

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Speaker 3: Dollars, don't ump don't don't lump me in with him,

1327
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 3: you know, John.

1328
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 9: You know I love everything bigger, check quicker than this.

1329
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 3: And thank you for let me tell you some thank

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01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 3: you for.

1331
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 9: And by the way, that guys, we're killing it.

1332
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 3: We're killing it. Teddy.

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Speaker 9: That gentleman came up to me in the broadcast booth

1334
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 9: and said some nice things as well. I believe if.

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Speaker 8: He's a sweetheart, this guy. So A lot of nice

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01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 8: people in sort League city out to that. And the

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01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 8: other thing is I want to really this is important,

1338
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 8: is that Morob really did his camp in Nevada. I

1339
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 8: mean I believe I know the guy like a book.

1340
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 8: When I got out, Aljio would send me you know,

1341
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 8: you know, the sparing tapes, and I trust al Joe

1342
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 8: and plicit I think in the future that guy's going

1343
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 8: to make h great, great coach. He's such a huge

1344
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 8: answer to the team. Everybody looks up to him. I

1345
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 8: can't say enough good things about al Joe. I mean,

1346
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 8: I think he's really matured even more after the getting

1347
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 8: the title. He conducts himself in the proper way, which

1348
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 8: I love. And also a shout out to John Wood

1349
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 8: for working with Morob. I thought he did a great job.

1350
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 8: I got to talk to him, and you know, he

1351
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 8: was there with Jay Perrin, who I think is a

1352
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 8: great kid. What a great third round, great kid, great energy,

1353
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 8: great third round. But I want to say thank you

1354
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 8: to John Would also for you know, even listening to

1355
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 8: him talk. He didn't try to change anything. He just

1356
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 8: wanted to enhance what he was doing and he did

1357
01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 8: a good job. And I want to say thank you

1358
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 8: to that because you know, I felt like, you know,

1359
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 8: like when I got there was everything was great, and

1360
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 8: Rob's gonna do what he's going to do. It's like

1361
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 8: I go to everybody, what's the game plan? Just complete chaos.

1362
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:15,439
Speaker 8: It's just complete chaos. But shout out to those guys.

1363
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 8: They did a great job and it's good to know

1364
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 8: that they were in good hands. When I'm not around.

1365
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 9: Big things, my man, stay healthy. We need another good

1366
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 9: ten years out of you.

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Speaker 3: That's asking a lot.

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Speaker 9: Congrat join the rest of the week. Thanks for the

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01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 9: Senate time.

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Speaker 3: Great week, great night. We got it right, no doubt

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01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 3: about it.

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Speaker 9: And I'm just messing with Sarah. It's all love at

1373
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 9: the end of the Yeah, don't agitate, lubri k.

1374
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 3: Don't agitate. That's what That's what she said. Take it easy.

1375
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 9: But every week here on the Anakin Florian podcast, Kenny,

1376
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 9: were you there with me? May eighteenth, twenty thirteen, Shadaguadusoul

1377
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 9: when Luke Rockhold made his UFC debut against me Tor Bellefort,

1378
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 9: I don't know if it was we called.

1379
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 6: That fight, my friend. How dare you?

1380
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 9: How damn?

1381
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 11: I know?

1382
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 9: I know, I got, I got. I'm going to Brian Stans.

1383
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 6: Brian, that's an insult to you as well, because he

1384
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 6: remember nothing about you and nothing about me.

1385
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 9: All Right, I know I'm insulting my guys, right, there,

1386
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 9: all right. So so for Luke Rockcold, you know, Strikeforce

1387
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 9: middleweight title belt at home, defended a couple of times,

1388
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 9: hasn't on disputed UFC championship. I mean, obviously there are

1389
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 9: a lot of people who can't lay claim to having

1390
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 9: belts on the mantle. But eleven UFC fights in the

1391
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 9: career of Luke Rockold, six and five in the UFC,

1392
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 9: six and five in the UFCIT.

1393
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 6: Wow, I that I was not aware that, you know.

1394
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 9: I mean Ken flows seventy five. Ken Flow's winning percentage

1395
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 9: seventy five percent in the UFC, and none of those

1396
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 9: two or three Ultimate Fighter wins are on his resume.

1397
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 9: I'm just saying. But Paolo Costa, I think enigmatic, right,

1398
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 9: like people like my experiences with him obviously maybe cloud

1399
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 9: my opinion, but he's been so gracious with us, Like

1400
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 9: when you see him shake the octagon girl's hands, like

1401
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 9: that's who he is. He's not like putting on He's

1402
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 9: a really really genuine guy. And there have been a

1403
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 9: lot of circumstances in his career that have given people

1404
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 9: a chance to criticize him, whether it was the Marvin

1405
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 9: Inventory fight happening at a Catchwaight or the sleeping issues

1406
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 9: that led to him pounding Wine the night before the

1407
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 9: Attasania fight, which sounded like an excuse to people. I'm

1408
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 9: just saying, when he's right physically and mentally, he's so tough.

1409
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 9: I mean, he's been hit with absolute bombs by Romero

1410
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 9: and Rockhold. The dude doesn't even flinch Like I do.

1411
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 9: Think he has a lot of championship qualities and metal.

1412
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 9: I guess I just wanted a little bit from you

1413
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 9: on Palo Costa in terms of where you think he's

1414
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 9: at now, his ceiling before we move on John.

1415
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 6: First of all, there's a lot of guys that would

1416
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 6: love to shake the hands of the octagon girls. Okay,

1417
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 6: that doesn't a good person. No, no, no, now listen,

1418
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 6: I think you're right now. I know exactly what you're saying. Yeah,

1419
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 6: I think Paul Costa. You know, he has mixed reviews

1420
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 6: because some of the things he has said after a

1421
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 6: fight or leading into a fight, way things like that.

1422
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 6: But this is a phenomenal fighter when he's on. Dude,

1423
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 6: he is athletically very very gifted. He came into this

1424
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 6: fight and really showed his true potential. And you know, again,

1425
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 6: say what you will about Luke Rockold, but rock Hold

1426
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 6: was motivated and trying to win this fight with every

1427
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:21,360
Speaker 6: ounce of his being. Paula Costa was just better. He

1428
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 6: just was, I mean, even on the wrestling aspects and

1429
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 6: even on the ground, which was the one aspect you thought, Hey,

1430
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 6: that's where Luke Rockhold wins this fight. Paul A Costa

1431
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 6: showed what he can do when he comes and motivated,

1432
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:37,799
Speaker 6: when he trains hard, and when he does his homework.

1433
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 6: And I was really impressed.

1434
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 3: Man.

1435
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 6: He was hitting Luke Crockold with some brutal shots. His

1436
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 6: counter wrestling was on point. That single leg, a couple

1437
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 6: of single legs and takedowns that he hit against Luke

1438
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:54,560
Speaker 6: Rockold I thought were beautiful. And the groundwork was he

1439
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 6: was all over Luke really so I was really impressed.

1440
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 6: And what it made me was it made me more

1441
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 6: excited to see more of paul A Costa and made

1442
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 6: me excited to see that paul A Costa. Should he

1443
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 6: get another shot at the belt, and if it's that guy,

1444
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 6: watch out big things and can beat a lot of

1445
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:17,599
Speaker 6: people in that division and maybe just maybe even get

1446
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 6: a belt.

1447
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 9: Ken Flow, were you able to see any of the

1448
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 9: prelim portion we're gonna get to the PFL here in

1449
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:23,599
Speaker 9: a little bit.

1450
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 6: No, I didn't, unfortunately, man oh.

1451
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 9: I just wanted to point out Marching Tibora handed Alexander

1452
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 9: Romanov his first pro MMA loss, first loss in the UFC.

1453
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:36,679
Speaker 9: Tobor was a big underdog. It was a majority decision

1454
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,559
Speaker 9: twenty nine to twenty eight times two and then twenty

1455
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 9: eight to twenty eight. This fight should have been a draw.

1456
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 9: Round one absolutely was a ten eight for Romanov, and

1457
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 9: at least one of those two judges who who had

1458
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 9: that third round ten to nine, I know if they

1459
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 9: could go back, they probably would have gone ten eight.

1460
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 9: And I just think we have to give these judges

1461
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:57,639
Speaker 9: the freedom to be more liberal with these ten eights

1462
01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 9: because we've scaled back and we're going in revert and

1463
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,080
Speaker 9: you know, that fight just seemed very clear to me

1464
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:06,720
Speaker 9: that the first round was a dominant, dominant ten eight,

1465
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 9: and then to Bora even the score with two ten knots.

1466
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 9: I was really curious about how that fight was going

1467
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 9: to go down.

1468
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 6: I remember reading the write up of it, and that

1469
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 6: was one of the questions I had for you today,

1470
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 6: is what you thought of that first round, because it

1471
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 6: seemed like by all accounts it should have been a

1472
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 6: ten eight.

1473
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:25,959
Speaker 9: Yeah, and again we're sort of going backwards. We're regressing

1474
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:27,560
Speaker 9: a little bit. I do think we'll get back to

1475
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 9: where we need to do, but I think some of

1476
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 9: it just has to has to be just fall on

1477
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 9: the judges to just try to just be a little

1478
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:38,720
Speaker 9: bit more bold because in their heart they know that

1479
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:42,600
Speaker 9: that is what is right. But congratulations to Marching and

1480
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 9: to Bora. Nonetheless, congratulations to Jared Gordon and Angelosa and

1481
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 9: Tyson Pedro, Lucia Puti LoVa, Victor Altamirando the Mexican getting

1482
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 9: the bonus in the first fight of the night. Big

1483
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 9: things at UFC two seventy eight, And in closing, I

1484
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:59,599
Speaker 9: would just say the magnitude of a fight between Leon

1485
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 9: Edwards and Kamara Usman in the UK, it's going to

1486
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:04,720
Speaker 9: be one of the biggest fights in UFC history. Joe

1487
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 9: Rogan hasn't done an international pay per view in a

1488
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 9: long long time, and we were able to get him

1489
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:11,559
Speaker 9: to commit to that show on the broadcast. All right,

1490
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 9: I did not see the PFL but I want to

1491
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 9: get your thoughts on on Brendan Locknane and Chris Wade

1492
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 9: and Kayla Harrison a little bit. Seemed like a great

1493
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:23,040
Speaker 9: war of words between Brendan Locknane and Chris Wade, a

1494
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:26,599
Speaker 9: great backdrop for this fight, and I guess it wasn't

1495
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 9: particularly close. Thirty to twenty seven times three for Locknane, which.

1496
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 6: Was very surprising to a lot of people, just because

1497
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 6: two things Chris Wade has had up to that point

1498
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 6: the best season of his career, and Brendan Locknane did

1499
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 6: not have a very good seatight, he's dealing with a

1500
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:46,720
Speaker 6: lot of injuries, just looked flat in the first couple

1501
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 6: of fights, really had to push through some adversity to

1502
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 6: get it done, and it just wasn't really that impressive.

1503
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 6: Chris Wade has been, you know, finishing guys and looks

1504
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:58,639
Speaker 6: like he's just firing and all sailders look better than ever,

1505
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:01,879
Speaker 6: and then he goes up against the guy and Brendan Locknane,

1506
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 6: and they do not like each other. They've been talking

1507
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 6: shit to each other on social media like this was legit.

1508
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 6: They did not like each other. I haven't heard that

1509
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 6: it was possible that one of one of the people

1510
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:17,639
Speaker 6: associated with Brendan Locknane was even knocking on Chris Wade's door,

1511
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 6: you know, late into the morning or early into the

1512
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:24,439
Speaker 6: morning to kind of get them up. So these the

1513
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 6: teams didn't like each other, the fighters didn't like each other,

1514
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 6: and Locknane was back in back in Great Britain with

1515
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 6: everyone watching, and man, he pulled off a performance of

1516
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 6: a lifetime. He just looked phenomenal, man everywhere. It was

1517
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:40,640
Speaker 6: just a very impressive performance. He's onto the championship for

1518
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 6: the first time ever and looking really, really good in

1519
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 6: the process.

1520
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:46,600
Speaker 9: I would like to give Kayla Harrison a spot on

1521
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 9: this podcast monthly. You know, Kayla's conor fucking queen, Kayla,

1522
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 9: whatever you I I just love to hear her talk

1523
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 9: in short form and long form. I just think she

1524
01:12:57,160 --> 01:13:00,879
Speaker 9: is electricity on a microphone. The way she dead pans,

1525
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 9: the way she walks away and then comes back to

1526
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 9: the interviewer. Five fucking stars for Kayla. But the fight

1527
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 9: I did not see. So what do you have for

1528
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 9: us on Kayla Harrison?

1529
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, So Kayla, Kyla was just again looked phenomenal. You

1530
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 6: know she does. She did what she does. She went

1531
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 6: out there, Uh, got hold of her, threw her on

1532
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 6: the ground, got on top and just beat her up. Man.

1533
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 6: Uh just uh, just another classic Kayla Harrison performance. Kayla

1534
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 6: is looking as dominant as ever.

1535
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:32,760
Speaker 11: Uh.

1536
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 6: There was some talk about maybe her knees or one

1537
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 6: of her knees being injured. She came in with wraps

1538
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 6: on her knees for the first time ever. Yeah, and

1539
01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:45,639
Speaker 6: she just seemed irritated all week. So but it didn't

1540
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:46,800
Speaker 6: it did not matter.

1541
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 9: She is She is so good.

1542
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 6: And I tell you her opponent, Larissa Pacheco is looking

1543
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 6: phenomenal as well, has to be in the conversation as

1544
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:58,880
Speaker 6: one of the the hardest hitting woman right now in

1545
01:13:59,000 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 6: the sport.

1546
01:13:59,520 --> 01:13:59,760
Speaker 3: She is.

1547
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 6: She is a beast right now. So I think after that, man,

1548
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:06,200
Speaker 6: I don't know, we got to start talking about maybe

1549
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 6: some super fights, including you know who I think is

1550
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:10,760
Speaker 6: still the goat, Amanda new Next.

1551
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, no, I gotta see that. And yeah, Pachaco really

1552
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 9: a different fighter than she was in the UFC. And

1553
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 9: I remember the first time I met Kayla Harrison in

1554
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:20,759
Speaker 9: a fighter meeting. She was there with Anthony Rocco Martin,

1555
01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 9: whom she used to date, and I just remember thinking,

1556
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 9: this woman has the most phenomenal energy that I have

1557
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 9: like ever been around. Even that it's like I'm so

1558
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 9: drawn to her. You know, I'm sure our listeners are

1559
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:34,759
Speaker 9: gonna think, dude, easy Ann, you're fucking married?

1560
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 6: Is she single?

1561
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 9: By the way, kid, plumb all right, I gotta go

1562
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:45,599
Speaker 9: get some fucking sleep or some food in my system.

1563
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 9: We're going to close it out with the Merrow seconds

1564
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 9: as we bring on our executive producer, Cody Merrow. What's

1565
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:51,599
Speaker 9: up kid?

1566
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 7: Hello?

1567
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 9: Thanks for giving me the middle spot today. Huh did

1568
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 9: I earn it?

1569
01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1570
01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 7: It's because of the star. You know, you're the star

1571
01:14:59,040 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 7: of the programs.

1572
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 6: By the way, I can't tell you how many people

1573
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 6: came up to be with the PFL or otherwise who

1574
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 6: are just like dude and randomly just coming up to you.

1575
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:12,719
Speaker 6: First thing, dude, An, It's just amazing.

1576
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 3: Man.

1577
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 6: I love John. I love John like they're just NonStop,

1578
01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:20,080
Speaker 6: so many people just going off about you, dude. So

1579
01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 6: you know, when someone says something nice about you and

1580
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 6: they have nothing to gain or they're just coming up

1581
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 6: just to start to that's when you know you're good

1582
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 6: and you're having an impact on people.

1583
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 7: Man.

1584
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 6: So I just wanted to mention that to you.

1585
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 9: Well, thank you, buddy, that that really means a lot.

1586
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:36,800
Speaker 9: Thank you man and I get the same obviously for

1587
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 9: you all the time. And hopefully someday, some way, some

1588
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 9: some somehow, some way, we're gonna call a fight together again.

1589
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 9: Cody Merrow, what's up, kid?

1590
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:47,600
Speaker 7: I can't wait for that day and I'll be in

1591
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 7: the ear. It'll just be the three of us. It'd

1592
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:51,679
Speaker 7: be great, wishfle thinking.

1593
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 3: You know.

1594
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 9: What's kind of cool in terms of in the ear

1595
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 9: when when my twin brother comes by himself to the

1596
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 9: UFC events or audio guys will give him a pack

1597
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 9: and not only does he get to hear the broadcast

1598
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:07,759
Speaker 9: in his ear, Kenny, but he gets to hear everything

1599
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 9: traffic wise truck does to me. So basically they give

1600
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 9: him my fee. Right So in the however rare instance,

1601
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:19,680
Speaker 9: and maybe it's not so rare where I do get

1602
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:22,640
Speaker 9: yelled at or some you know, my brother would hear

1603
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:24,519
Speaker 9: them be like, dude, Anik, what are you doing? Bro?

1604
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:31,040
Speaker 9: You miss the fucking Modello read? Come on man, fight,

1605
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 9: come on, Like gotta put the fucking pack down and

1606
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:36,080
Speaker 9: go into the truck. Is there a problem here?

1607
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 7: Because yeah, I actually wish fans could hear like you know,

1608
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:41,559
Speaker 7: I've heard truck traffic before, like it changes your life,

1609
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 7: Like I can't watch an ESPN desk show without hearing

1610
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:48,560
Speaker 7: a traffic like phantom traffic in my ear, So it

1611
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:49,679
Speaker 7: definitely changes your life.

1612
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 6: People have no idea.

1613
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 9: Cody.

1614
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 7: UFC two seventy eight bonuses, you said went to Leon

1615
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 7: Edwards and Victor Alta Milano Fight of the Night Coast

1616
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 7: to rock Hold. Obviously I thought it was I thought

1617
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:04,680
Speaker 7: it was deserving costa. Yeah, sorry, I too much. Dan

1618
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 7: Haley on the pretrec show of Saying It Wrong by Osmosis, Dan,

1619
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:11,960
Speaker 7: buy some bigger pants, dude, Like what do you do steal?

1620
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 9: Not alone?

1621
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 7: Uh, Titans suck. Edwards finished at four oh four, and

1622
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:21,800
Speaker 7: the fourth latest finish in UFC Championship history happened just

1623
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 7: nine months after Jeri's went over Glover, which was four

1624
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 7: thirty two into round five. So it's crazy year in combats,

1625
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 7: huh uh. And John just to added point on that,

1626
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 7: so you said on the broadcast that you really didn't

1627
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 7: catch that, So like, how does that happen from a

1628
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 7: take us through like your point of view in that moment, so.

1629
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:43,200
Speaker 9: I wasn't looking down, but in that moment I said

1630
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:46,560
Speaker 9: something to the tune of yeah, but that is not

1631
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:49,479
Speaker 9: the cloth from which Leon is cut, I mean his

1632
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 9: leg just a little.

1633
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:52,640
Speaker 6: It was amazing.

1634
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 9: The timing autitude is just we got luck right. So

1635
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:58,720
Speaker 9: right afterwards you sort of hear me say, I mean

1636
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 9: his So I I quickly glanced at the corner right,

1637
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 9: and as I was about to say, I mean the corner,

1638
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:08,559
Speaker 9: you know, because we have the blue corner to our

1639
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 9: immediate right, you know, so oftentimes I am looking at

1640
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 9: that direction, even to cheat it for a tenth of

1641
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 9: a second. And when I turned back around, what I

1642
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 9: basically saw was Kamara Ousman in like that catcher stance right.

1643
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:23,600
Speaker 9: So I knew obviously it was Leon. I knew that

1644
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 9: it was a kick of some kind, but I didn't

1645
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 9: see the kick right as it happened. But that happens

1646
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 9: way more than you think. Now you hope it doesn't

1647
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:33,680
Speaker 9: happen on you know, one of the greatest knockouts in

1648
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:38,640
Speaker 9: UFC history. But that's why maybe my call was no

1649
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 9: way instead of you.

1650
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 7: Know kid, that's what everyone was thinking though, you know, like, well, right,

1651
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 7: another fifty six seconds go by and everyone's like, oh yeah,

1652
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:50,320
Speaker 7: ho hom Muzman won that decision. No shit, Leon never

1653
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 7: gets the title shot again. It's just like crazy, how

1654
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:56,879
Speaker 7: quickly the like you said, the the path of somebody's

1655
01:18:56,920 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 7: life can just change immediately. And you know Leon's gonnay

1656
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:01,320
Speaker 7: a birthday here in a couple.

1657
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:03,640
Speaker 9: Of days, so yeah, hell of a birthday week. I

1658
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:07,680
Speaker 9: almost missed Askron getting knocked out by Jorge Mosfidal. You

1659
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:09,759
Speaker 9: know this fight clock is brought to you by Modello,

1660
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 9: and I literally was a beat away from missing that one.

1661
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:15,840
Speaker 7: So yeah, well sorry, it happened to me. Like I

1662
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 7: I was watching the fight, I look down to check

1663
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 7: like something on my phone, and all of a sudden,

1664
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 7: I hear you, and I'm like, like what the fuck?

1665
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:24,760
Speaker 7: I look up in Uzman's knockdown, I'm like what just had?

1666
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:26,800
Speaker 7: Like literally what just happened? And I'm up for four

1667
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:28,719
Speaker 7: hours with adrenaline because I can't go to sleep.

1668
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:31,599
Speaker 9: Sounds like our truck too. Lappie and Zach, those guys

1669
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 9: maybe might have missed it as well, because at that

1670
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 9: stage of the fight, I think Zach had made the

1671
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 9: decision to kill some content on the back end, maybe

1672
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 9: like a rock hold cost to conversation that we would

1673
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 9: have in that working man shot at the end of

1674
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 9: the pay per view, and as he kills that content,

1675
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 9: everybody looks down at their format to make a note

1676
01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 9: and boom. I think, so you know happens.

1677
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 7: What a crazy sport?

1678
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:54,559
Speaker 1: Huh uh.

1679
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 7: Morobs went over all, though was just the seventh straight

1680
01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 7: in the division. His teammate and brother Al Jamain Stone

1681
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 7: only is the only one that is with that same

1682
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:03,759
Speaker 7: record in the division.

1683
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 3: Is it?

1684
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:07,519
Speaker 9: Is it eight eight and two since dropping his first

1685
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 9: two in the UFC. I mean, fucking a champ, champ.

1686
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 7: That's It's very interesting and I thought I found myself.

1687
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:16,160
Speaker 7: I know they've talked about it before. They're not going

1688
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 7: to fight, and Mob has talked may Rob has talked

1689
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:21,479
Speaker 7: about going down. I found myself thinking that during the fight.

1690
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:24,000
Speaker 7: I don't know how he'd do it physically, but maybe

1691
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 7: like he's not he's not playing, he'd cut off with

1692
01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:30,599
Speaker 7: limb to do it though, and still be fine.

1693
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 9: I don't know how long Aljamain Sterling is for the game,

1694
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 9: As I have said before, you know, I don't know

1695
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:38,479
Speaker 9: if that he's going to have more than four more fights,

1696
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 9: and I do think that uh if Morob was clearly

1697
01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 9: the number one contender in this loaded division and Al

1698
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 9: Joe was the champion you know at that point they

1699
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:48,320
Speaker 9: would have to figure something out.

1700
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 3: You know.

1701
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:50,800
Speaker 9: But I wouldn't be surprised to see Morob just keep

1702
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:54,679
Speaker 9: plucking off contenders until uh, you know, he's gonna morobs.

1703
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:56,760
Speaker 9: I wouldn't be surprised if Morob fights, you know, deep

1704
01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 9: into his thirties, you know.

1705
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:02,200
Speaker 7: So uh he he's like the assass and like the

1706
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:04,800
Speaker 7: handyman for al Jo. He's like, you just go deal

1707
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 7: with my light work.

1708
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:08,599
Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, right, what else?

1709
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 7: So you mentioned it in the kind of the end

1710
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:14,360
Speaker 7: of the show there, But Jared Gordon h great win,

1711
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 7: outlanded Leo Santos by eighty strikes. He was one sixteen

1712
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:20,200
Speaker 7: for one seventy four sixty six percent, arguably the best

1713
01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:22,760
Speaker 7: performance of his career. And you know, I just love

1714
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:24,560
Speaker 7: what he's doing on social media to go over and

1715
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:27,799
Speaker 7: follow Jared Flash Gordon, you know, huge mental health advocate.

1716
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 7: You know, he's struggled with addiction before, and that's something

1717
01:21:30,479 --> 01:21:32,680
Speaker 7: else that he literally he'll give his number out to

1718
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 7: people struggling with addiction to help me out. So just

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Speaker 7: a really selfless guy.

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Speaker 9: I really love Jared hell he acknowledged him, oh of course.

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Speaker 7: And then one thing that did come from that. You know,

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Speaker 7: I would never watch a secondary commentary ever, because I

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01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:48,640
Speaker 7: love John Anick so much. You know, if there was

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Speaker 7: just the John Anick feed.

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Speaker 6: That's what I would watch, if I could cut out

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Speaker 6: everybody else.

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Speaker 9: Oh guys.

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Speaker 7: But on the secondary commentary, DANEA. White dropped some news that.

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Speaker 6: He essentially here.

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Speaker 9: No, oh, thank you, Cody, thank you.

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Speaker 7: So Dana goes on to this thing with Gronk, and

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Speaker 7: Gronk was like, hey, you want to talk about like

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Speaker 7: how me and Brady almost went to Vegas? And Dana's like,

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Speaker 7: I mean, no, I really shouldn't, but yeah, I guess so.

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Speaker 7: So Dana said that he essentially brokeer the Brady in

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Speaker 7: Gronk to Vegas deal. All the rumors about Brady looking

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01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 7: for houses were absolutely true. All of that was correct information.

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Speaker 7: And then Gruden acts the deal at the last second.

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Speaker 3: Dang.

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Speaker 6: Wow, I mean so that you were talking about before

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Speaker 6: he went over to Tampa Bays.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 9: And the Raiders seemed like a great landing spot and

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01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 9: seems like Dana was able to figure it out with

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Speaker 9: Mark Davis and the particulars involved Mark Davis being the

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Speaker 9: Raiders owner and that John Gruden blew up the deal

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01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 9: just because Tampa Bay, while in Florida, did seem a

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01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 9: little bit like an outlier play for Brady, right, and

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01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:58,960
Speaker 9: the Vegas with the West coast connection. Brady's omni president

1750
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:01,679
Speaker 9: these UFC event is his family is out west, he's

1751
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:05,759
Speaker 9: from there, you know, I don't know, it's wild, it's wild.

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01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:10,560
Speaker 9: But yeah, obviously Dana White's power does not is not

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01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:12,799
Speaker 9: just exclusive to the UFC, absolutely incredible.

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01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 7: Well both both income tax havens too, so you know,

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01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 7: Tom Brady, don't mess around, that's right. So the last

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Speaker 7: thing coming out out of the event was the announcement

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Speaker 7: of Tony Ferguson versus the Leech at UFC two seventy nine.

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Speaker 9: So Tony fergus Yes, yeah, yeah, my twin brother was

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01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 9: not gonna be at UFC two seventy nine, and I said, hey,

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01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:35,560
Speaker 9: if Tony Ferguson fights it, well, well it's right in

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01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 9: the co main event with that gets you to Vegas.

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01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 9: He's like, yeah, I'll probably come out, you know. Yeah, no,

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01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:42,639
Speaker 9: nice shout of injection into the fight card for sure.

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Speaker 7: And then if you go last point, UFC Fight Pass

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01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 7: posted probably the best post final interview of all time.

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Speaker 7: I'm not going to play it, but you're gonna go

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01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:52,200
Speaker 7: look at it. I don't even know the guy's name,

1768
01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 7: but if you watched it, you're gonna love my outro

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01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:57,679
Speaker 7: am I canceled yet dot Com?

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Speaker 9: Oh man, am I antled yet? Dot Com? All right,

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01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:03,240
Speaker 9: I'm gonna go check that out. I actually think maybe

1772
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 9: you could argue. The best post fight interview now in

1773
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 9: UFC history is Leon Edwards, because man, did he maximize

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Speaker 9: that moment. We congratulate Leon and Dave Levelle, the entire team.

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01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:16,240
Speaker 9: I haven't called a fight in the UK since twenty thirteen,

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01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:18,680
Speaker 9: and I am hopeful that I will get to do

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01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:21,960
Speaker 9: so at some point in twenty twenty three. Thank you

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01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 9: to our guest Nas and long Go come on today.

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01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:27,520
Speaker 9: Thank you all for the con words about the podcast.

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01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:30,840
Speaker 9: And every time a fan stops me or Kenny and

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Speaker 9: says that they listen to this podcast, I can assure

1782
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Speaker 9: you it means a whole lot to us, you know,

1783
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 9: because we've been showing up doing the show every Monday

1784
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 9: for you know, almost eight years, and it really is

1785
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 9: a great, you know, sort of conduit for us to

1786
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 9: get with all of you, and it makes us feel

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01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 9: connected to all of you. So thank you so much

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Speaker 9: thanks to our producer Cody Meryl ken Flow. Welcome home,

1789
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 9: enjoy some time off and we will talk to you

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Speaker 9: in six days or fewer. Until then, you'll fuck.

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