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Speaker 1: and instructions to help you navigate through this wild, crazy,

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Speaker 1: beautiful world. In the studio, Chris Senegal, what's up.

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Speaker 2: King, appreciate the opportunity to be here, man, I'm good man.

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Speaker 1: You know I think we might be relatives, man, you know, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I got some syentnagagues in my family. Yeah, my dad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're a connected in some way. Yeah, man, So

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Speaker 1: let's get right to it. Bro, you you said that

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Speaker 3: You know, when I was a teenage dad, I grew

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Speaker 1: You know, you're going to the owners, yeah, family members

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Speaker 1: And how is that not viewed as trying to take

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Speaker 2: So now it's almost like you still.

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Speaker 3: Own the property like a landlord, but I'm taking all

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Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, are you a privy to the comments that

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Speaker 3: He was doing all that, man. He was trying to

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Speaker 3: My name is Chris, right, Yeah, that's what.

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Speaker 3: My mom had a business, she had got in some trouble,

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Speaker 1: Now, where is your dad? Went on? And this is transparing.

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Speaker 3: So actually, when my mom was incarcerated, my dad lived

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Speaker 1: And we got another thing. My dad is from Lake Charles.

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Speaker 2: Well, so my grandfather's from Lafayette.

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Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie, but it's about that long.

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Speaker 1: He was a hard worker. Yeah, isn't that strange? Man?

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Speaker 2: Very much so?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, into everything like out in out in nature,

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Speaker 3: taking stuff apart, putting it back together. You know, my

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I didn't have a lot of opportunity to

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Speaker 3: But they're taking the proceeds from the sale and they're

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Speaker 1: And what are y'all gonna do with that property? Like

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Speaker 2: You know what. Another developed already bought that. Frank Lou

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Speaker 1: Kind of high at Pleasant really on the cool man

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a big apartment complex.

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Speaker 3: Over half of it to be affordable for the community

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Speaker 1: So how so how do you to depend on the.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Godleys reloaded podcasts you right back after the sport.

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Speaker 1: Are you familiar with that Asian Asian complex apartment complex

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Speaker 2: Were like no, no, no, no, no, yep, I saw

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Speaker 3: But to me, that concept is so crazy. Why force

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Speaker 3: You know, it's like Okay, yeah, you can prove that

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Speaker 1: They're going to try to run you off. They one

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Speaker 3: Take your money out of this bank, put it over here,

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Speaker 2: Twelve hours later he was assassinated. So that's a powerful message.

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Speaker 1: My kids, Mom tried to get me to purchase lots

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Speaker 1: I was like, who's what am I going to be

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Speaker 1: lots are running two three, four hundred thousand dollars now, yep,

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Speaker 1: I could not see it. There are others available in

443
00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:06,000
Speaker 1: black communities around this country right now, and black people

444
00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,680
Speaker 1: don't have the vision. There are black people who don't

445
00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,560
Speaker 1: see the vision right now? How do you convince them

446
00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:14,679
Speaker 1: to invest in the future.

447
00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,760
Speaker 3: I tell them to go look at the real past.

448
00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,800
Speaker 3: Let's not talk about civil rights movement to now. Let's

449
00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:25,960
Speaker 3: talk about emancipation to civil rights movement. From eighteen sixties

450
00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:31,040
Speaker 3: to the nineteen fifties, you had actual slaves that been

451
00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,760
Speaker 3: on a plantationalary likefe couldn't read the right building cities

452
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,360
Speaker 3: everywhere because we couldn't go to no white cities right

453
00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,320
Speaker 3: every ward. In Houston was a small black settlement at

454
00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,720
Speaker 3: one point in time, so we built all the commercial buildings.

455
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,479
Speaker 3: We had more black banks, more black business owners, more

456
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,560
Speaker 3: black everything. The houses that was built that was before

457
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 3: there was a family made loan, a government back loan.

458
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,399
Speaker 2: They had to save up money and build out that stuff.

459
00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,199
Speaker 3: We got to take more pride in saying, hey, they

460
00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,639
Speaker 3: want to see us do that again, you know, and

461
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,960
Speaker 3: while the property is so cheap, it's a lot easier

462
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 3: for us to make that move. Usually what happens is

463
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 3: we get mad when everything's really expensive, which means somebody

464
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,639
Speaker 3: else has seen that vision, taken advantage of it, moved

465
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 3: into that neighborhood, and they like the neighborhood so much

466
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 3: that they outbidding each other for the prices.

467
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Speaker 2: That's how the house values go up. That's how all

468
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:17,199
Speaker 2: the real estate values go up.

469
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,400
Speaker 3: All we got to do is take that same blueprint

470
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,399
Speaker 3: and implement it for ourselves in our own communities, and

471
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,400
Speaker 3: we don't have to worry about You see on social

472
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 3: media people talking about let's go buy some land in

473
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,920
Speaker 3: the middle of nowhere and start from scratch. Why we

474
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,399
Speaker 3: got whole communities that sitting idle that we could just

475
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,640
Speaker 3: take back over already, got city infrastructure, got running water,

476
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 3: got sewer lines, got everything. We could just rebuild our

477
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,640
Speaker 3: own communities right here in every city. And so that's

478
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 3: been my message, and it does make it easier. When

479
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,479
Speaker 3: you find out something else is going on, a new

480
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 3: stadium coming, usually we get mad and want to protest.

481
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 2: To now go buy everything up because the value is

482
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Speaker 2: going to go up.

483
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Speaker 1: So that's what I'm doing now. I'm buying land, and

484
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Speaker 1: I'm instructing my children not to sell, like never ever

485
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Speaker 1: ever sell.

486
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Speaker 2: Lease. That's it.

487
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Speaker 1: Because there's a stretch of land like in the Gallery area,

488
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 1: you can't buy anything. The same family owns everything. You

489
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,679
Speaker 1: can't buy nothing, you can only lease it. So all

490
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,399
Speaker 1: of those buildings, I don't care if you build a

491
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 1: five million dollar building on there. Yeah, a default on

492
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,160
Speaker 1: that thing and you out of here.

493
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Speaker 2: Yep.

494
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Speaker 1: So I think that for long term generational wealth, leasing

495
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 1: is the way to go. But there are sometimes situations

496
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Speaker 1: where selling makes more sense.

497
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Speaker 3: Can you explain that if you have an opportunity to

498
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,159
Speaker 3: go take the profits from something and you have a

499
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Speaker 3: better use for that money. Let's say you own something

500
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Speaker 3: and you can make fifty thousand on it right now,

501
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,399
Speaker 3: but then you could go to the north end of

502
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Speaker 3: the fifth Ward and buy some cheap lots, which one

503
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Speaker 3: of those lots may be worth two hundred thousand in

504
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 3: four five years. You can take that fifty and flip

505
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 3: it into something that may be worth a million dollars

506
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 3: in twenty thirty years and still own that land instead

507
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 3: of owning that one par so that you had that

508
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,640
Speaker 3: had the fifty thousand equity in it. And to take

509
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 3: your conversation a little deeper, the original wealth built on

510
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 3: this planet was land. That's what a kingdom was. The

511
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 3: king owned all the land. A lord was literally a

512
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 3: landlord collecting tarifts from everybody. And now that's only evolved

513
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 3: into the government collecting taxes. So that's the true generational

514
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,159
Speaker 3: wealth is owning land and making everybody that inhabits that

515
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 3: land or lives on that land pay you for as

516
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 3: long term as possible. And yeah, but like you said,

517
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 3: sometimes when there's a bigger opportunity to grow what you've

518
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 3: invested in by taking some of the profits out of

519
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 3: it and putting in somewhere else, that's the only time

520
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 3: you should really sell.

521
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Speaker 1: Is it best to buy or sell? I mean buy

522
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 1: our rent? Is it best to buy a rent?

523
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 2: Oh? This is what I tell people.

524
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 3: The house you live in, It's okay to rent because

525
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 3: if something breaks, somebody else gonna fix it, right, But

526
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 3: you should take all the rest of your money and

527
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 3: buy a real estate that's gonna pay you.

528
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 2: So you actually are buying income.

529
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Speaker 3: Right when you buy a rental property, you could buy

530
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 3: a house, it's gonna let's say your mortgage plament is

531
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 3: fifteen hundred, that you can rent it out for two thousand.

532
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 3: Now you got five hundred dollars a month. That's not

533
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 3: tied to you working at all. If you sleep all day,

534
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 3: you're gonna make that five hundred every month. If you

535
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 3: bought it in the right area, the property value is

536
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,120
Speaker 3: gonna go up too. So now your household net worth

537
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 3: goes up too. You know how they say the average

538
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 3: household network of a black family gonna go to zero

539
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,360
Speaker 3: by twenty fifty. Well, if we start buying real estate

540
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 3: in our own communities when it's starting that gentrification process,

541
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 3: we can reverse that trend on our own. Now, when

542
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 3: you rent your primary and you own a rental property,

543
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 3: you still get out and benefits everybody tell you about.

544
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,360
Speaker 3: You still get the tax right offs, you know, write

545
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,360
Speaker 3: off the interest, the taxes, the repairs, you can still

546
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 3: write all that stuff off.

547
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 2: You still get the value appreciation.

548
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 3: But like I said, when you go home at night,

549
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 3: the garbagere supposed to go out, you can cause somebody

550
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 3: to go fix it, So I'm not opposed to either one.

551
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 3: And then if you want to go buy your dream

552
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 3: home later, let's say you got four or five rental

553
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 3: properties each giving you five hundred a month. Right now,

554
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 3: you got the extra two thousand a month that the

555
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 3: bank is gonna look at and say, Okay, you qualify

556
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 3: for a bigger mortgage for your primary residence. Whereas if

557
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 3: you do it the other way, you got you on

558
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 3: your primary house first, the bank is gonna say, oh,

559
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 3: you don't even have enough extra income to afford this

560
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 3: rental property, or something goes wrong, so we're not going

561
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 3: to prove you forne So we got to think about

562
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 3: it in the reverse of the way that most people

563
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 3: will tell us to do it. But it makes a

564
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 3: lot more sense that way.

565
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 1: How do you buy a house with a credit card?

566
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 3: Well, that's not something I really would recommend, but and

567
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 3: why not because you might overleverage, which means if you

568
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 3: can't afford all your bills right now and you haven't

569
00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 3: been able to say both for enough money to a

570
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 3: least have down payment, you probably aren't in a financial

571
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 3: position or financially responsible.

572
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 2: Enough to leverage credit to go get a house. But

573
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 2: you can.

574
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 3: Maybe there's a reason why you know your income is

575
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 3: about to go up, or you have to you don't

576
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 3: want to use your cash because you want to do

577
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 3: something else with it.

578
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 2: That makes sense, But I mean you can.

579
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 3: There's there's ways to process payments and take the proceeds.

580
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 3: Let's say, if you have an LLC or you have

581
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 3: some bets at LLC, they can send the payment to

582
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 3: that entity and then reimburse you and give you the cash.

583
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 3: Some lenders that are more asset based lenders, which means

584
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 3: that they're looking at the property yourself and not really

585
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 3: looking at what your income is personally, and they're more

586
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 3: investor friendly.

587
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 2: Some of them may let you do that.

588
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 3: You know, like they don't care where twenty percent comes from,

589
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 3: if it's come from a credit card or whatever. That's

590
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 3: on you if you default on that. But yeah, I

591
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 3: mean it is possible. But like I said, if I'm

592
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 3: advising somebody, I wouldn't.

593
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 2: Tell them to do that.

594
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: How do you buy a house with no money?

595
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 3: There are downpayment assistance programs that will give you up

596
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 3: to thirty thousand dollars towards the purchase of a house.

597
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 3: They usually have some type of restriction on them, like income,

598
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 3: like you can't make over a certain amount of money,

599
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 3: or it has to be in a certain.

600
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 2: Area of the city.

601
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 3: But a couple of uh, well, like yeah, most of

602
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 3: the black neighbors in Houston, right, neighborhoods in Houston right now,

603
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 3: I would say Sunnyside for sure. No, the programs, oh,

604
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 3: some of the programs, No, I don't. I couldn't tell

605
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 3: you the name of any of them right now top

606
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 3: of my head. The KNAKA is one program that gives

607
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 3: you almost like one hundred percent financing in ACA.

608
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I can vouch for NACA.

609
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know that.

610
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

611
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 2: Business and a lot of them. They're just the local

612
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 2: city programs or county programs.

613
00:27:59,720 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: Now.

614
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 3: Me being more of a real estate investor and developer,

615
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 3: that's not really what I do, but real estate agents

616
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 3: that help people actually buy primary homes and residences. The

617
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 3: good ones that are that know the market that they're

618
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 3: in well will know all those different relationships. And a

619
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 3: lot of the mortgage lenders too, will will know what

620
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 3: programs are out there that they work with.

621
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 2: As far as down payment assistance.

622
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, let's say I got ten thousand dollars. I

623
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: want to build a real estate empire. Where do I start?

624
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 3: What I recommend is take that ten thousand dollars and

625
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 3: invest it with somebody that's already successful doing it, and

626
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 3: not somebody talking on social media, somebody where they can

627
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 3: show you, hey, look, I bought this for this. Here's

628
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 3: my closing statement, here's my documents, here's the wire that

629
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 3: went to my bank account. I actually made some profit.

630
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 3: I'm about to do this again with my same team.

631
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 3: If you put this ten thousand and I'll give you

632
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 3: twelve or fifteen thousand back at the end. Now you're

633
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 3: going to increase that ten and you're going to learn

634
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 3: at the same time.

635
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 2: What to do right.

636
00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 3: Most of us want to try to go find a

637
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 3: deal to do it ourselves, and most people fail that way.

638
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 2: It's okay to be a copy cat. You just got

639
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 2: to be copying the right cat, so you know.

640
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah, copy off somebody and

641
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 3: give them an incentive to show you what they're doing.

642
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 2: Because you putting money in.

643
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 3: Now they say you got to invested interest and you

644
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 3: decreasing your risk of losing your money because you're working

645
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 3: with somebody's got to proven track record. You do that

646
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 3: once or twice, maybe you go do your own, or

647
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 3: maybe you go bring somebody else in and y'll pull

648
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 3: you all money together and do it collectively. And it

649
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 3: ain't get rich quick scheme, but that's a sure fire

650
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 3: way to be able to get to the next level.

651
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 2: And just you know, you keep doing it over and

652
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 2: over and don't stop. That's the thing. You got to

653
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 2: keep reinvesting the money. That's the only way money grows.

654
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 3: You know, when you stop reinvesting it, it becomes stagnant

655
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 3: or you become complacent, and then next thing you know,

656
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 3: you're missing out of other opportunities.

657
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: If a person's ultimate goal is to invest, is it

658
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: smart for them to pay money to go to real

659
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: estate school. No.

660
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 3: No, real estate school is for somebody that wants to

661
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 3: help people do transactions.

662
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 2: So well, let me say that two ways.

663
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Speaker 3: If your only goal is to learn how investing works, no, However,

664
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 3: if you feel like you have the time to help

665
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 3: people do regular transactions buy houses, sell houses, rents, and

666
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 3: you want to take that commission from that and build

667
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 3: your pot of money up to then go and invest

668
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 3: that is a good way to do it. And if

669
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 3: you want to take that step further, then you could

670
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 3: be a real estate agent that only works with investors,

671
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,959
Speaker 3: so you can watch investors do transactions and then you're

672
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 3: making money in the process. So you're helping them buy

673
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 3: houses after they flip it, and you're helping them sell it.

674
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 3: You know, you're helping them rent it out. You know,

675
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 3: that could be a good way to get started too.

676
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 3: Or you're watching somebody build a multifamily and then you

677
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 3: help them lease it up. Then you can learn that way,

678
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 3: but you don't have to do that if you want

679
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 3: to invest. You just want to find people that are

680
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 3: investing and make sure that you can see that they

681
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 3: are successful and then start putting some money over there

682
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 3: with them.

683
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: And how do you turn your money into passive income?

684
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 2: That's a great question.

685
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 3: So understand that the passive income strategy in real estate

686
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 3: investing is not going to give you the big bag

687
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 3: like flipping houses is. But that's more active income because

688
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 3: you're actively managing projects. After you finish that project, you

689
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 3: have to find another project. Right However, when you passively invest,

690
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 3: you're buying rental properties. And I always want to talk

691
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 3: to especially people that get to our level. We only

692
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 3: think about houses, but every other building you pass when

693
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 3: you leave here, that's not a house. Somebody owns it,

694
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 3: and those businesses are the tenants, and those businesses are

695
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 3: paying rent every month too. So you buy buildings that

696
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 3: you can lease out to other people, or create other

697
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 3: ways to make money off from, like event spaces, those

698
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 3: types of things that generate cash flow. And then every

699
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 3: month that tenant makes you their first business partner. They

700
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 3: don't even realize it when you The first person you

701
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 3: pay every month is your landlord. So they do all

702
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 3: the work every month, they generate the revenue for their business,

703
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 3: and then they pay you first every month, and after

704
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 3: you pay all your expenses, whatever's left that's passive income

705
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 3: for you. You know, you can even hire property management

706
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 3: to be in the middle to where you don't have

707
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 3: to talk to nobody. The tenants all deal with the

708
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 3: property management director don't have to deal with you. So

709
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 3: that's that's the best way to do it.

710
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 2: Go to boys.

711
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: Reloaded podcasts will be right back after this week. I

712
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: have to assume that with you making the moves that

713
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: you're making in Fifth Ward in particular, and even other

714
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: surrounding areas in Houston. I have to assume that you

715
00:32:55,720 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: have your fast share of haters, especially the institutional tradition haters.

716
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: They got to be saying, like this guy, he's not

717
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: even turning the major profits. You know. It's like getting

718
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: the flax or letting them come stay amongst us, and

719
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: we're trying to make this money that they ever came

720
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: to you and tried to buy you, Like, hey, come

721
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: work with us, man, come get on our side, you know.

722
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, be that alone. Man. It's a bigger bag

723
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: over here, baby.

724
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, and they have a

725
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 3: lot more resources too. They'll lay that big bag on

726
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 3: the table and say, hey, you come do this. We

727
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 3: like your brand, we like your reach. We'll give you

728
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 3: twenty five percent of the deal and you don't have

729
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 3: to put up no money. But then I'm losing control,

730
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 3: you know, and for me, it's not worth that I

731
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,719
Speaker 3: recently had that happen. It happens often, honestly. And then

732
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 3: or you have these investors or lenders where when you

733
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 3: start doing bigger projects, they'll give you all the money,

734
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 3: but then they want to make profit first.

735
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 2: So it's called preferred equity. That means we're gonna give

736
00:33:59,160 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 2: you all the money.

737
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 3: We want to make all our money back first, and

738
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 3: we want to make this certain percentage of profits before

739
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 3: we even let you start making any money at all.

740
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 3: So if you calculate anything wrong, any hiccups, you can

741
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 3: mess around and being a deal with somebody else put up.

742
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 2: All of money.

743
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,399
Speaker 3: You're doing all the work and you're not getting none

744
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 3: of the profits. So there are a lot of.

745
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 2: People out there that structure deals that way, and they

746
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 2: do take advantage of a lot of us.

747
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: Honestly, is lending for black people getting any easier than

748
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: it was in the past.

749
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 3: No, until until we are the ones actually making the

750
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 3: decisions on the loans, it's never going to really get easier.

751
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 3: I mean, you have certain programs out there where the

752
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 3: government is subsidizing or telling telling the lender the mortgage company, hey,

753
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 3: if you lend to them in a default, will reimburse you.

754
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 2: That helps us a little bit.

755
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 1: And why would the government do that? Because they hate

756
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: us too.

757
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 2: You know, they have certain incentives. I mean, it's all politics,

758
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 2: you know.

759
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 3: They have to they have to do a certain amount

760
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 3: to appease the population, you know, so they're going to

761
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 3: what they can or what they need to do to

762
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 3: meet those requirements.

763
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 2: And banks have the same thing.

764
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 3: They have these community reinvestment at credits, what they have

765
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 3: to lend a certain percentage of what they manage in

766
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 3: their portfolio two projects in our communities.

767
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: And I'm familiar with that. Why is it that so

768
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: much of that money remains on the table. We're not

769
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 1: getting to those funds And I personally believe that people

770
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: are not informed. Yeah, they don't know that that money

771
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: is there for them. Yeah, and why is it? Why

772
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 1: is that happening? And why aren't we doing a better

773
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: job at getting the word out.

774
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 3: I think it's just a lack of communication amongst us

775
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 3: and a lack of outreach from those groups that are

776
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 3: required to do it. Now, I'll take it a level

777
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 3: simpler and take it down to the person, the individual

778
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 3: person that works at a bank that's not wanting to

779
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,240
Speaker 3: take a risk, right, that's their job, that's their salaries,

780
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 3: how they feed their family. And they're not really familiar

781
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 3: with us, you know that we don't look like them,

782
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 3: and then we're asking them for loans. They're scared. They're like, well,

783
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 3: what if I make a bad decision? So I'm really

784
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 3: going to judge this African American twice as hard because

785
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 3: from what I know about African Americans, they mismanaged money,

786
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 3: you know, and it could be completely wrong. It could

787
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 3: be it could be nothing prejudiced about that thought process.

788
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 3: But until we have more examples in front of them

789
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 3: of us being successful with it, it's always going to

790
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 3: be harder for them to make a decision to want

791
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 3: to help us or land at the same rate they

792
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 3: will land to one of their friends.

793
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: Well, there's always going to be a level of implicit

794
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: bias when you're dealing with these people, because it's like

795
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: you say, they have their preconceived notions of who we are,

796
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: the way we behave and they have no clue because

797
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: most of them don't even have black friends, right, And

798
00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: so you walk into the bank, we got one. You know,

799
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: this is like a it's a huge problem, and I

800
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: just I don't understand why, like the people that are

801
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: in the space like that are in like that banking community,

802
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: the people that are in finance, you know, why don't

803
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: they do a better job of getting the message out?

804
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: Are they doing a good job? But it's just that

805
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: people are resistant.

806
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 3: It's a little bit of both and I realized this too,

807
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 3: especially during that whole clubhouse era, just listening to all

808
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 3: the black rooms with people that work in banking and

809
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 3: commercial lending. It's no different in prison. They are institutionalized.

810
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 3: The institution has taught them, don't do this, take this risk,

811
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 3: tell that person this. They got to work twice as hard,

812
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 3: they got to come back to the table with this,

813
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 3: and then they start regurgitating that, and that's what's circulated.

814
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 3: And then when it comes time for one of us

815
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 3: to walk in, they automatically think, oh, I got to

816
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 3: be more strict on this because they're institutionalized in a

817
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 3: different way.

818
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 2: So we got to break that, have it.

819
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 3: We need more independently owned institutions where we are in

820
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 3: control of the money, taking risk on our own communities.

821
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 2: That's really the only way it's gonna change.

822
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, how many kids do you have?

823
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 2: Men too?

824
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 1: Too? And again tell me what what the what they're doing?

825
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: So my son is son, just got a degree.

826
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 3: Just graduated with the Green Business, getting ready to go

827
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 3: back for NBA and entrepreneurship. And then my daughter's four. Okay, yeah,

828
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 3: so you know she's in preschool law, she might be,

829
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 3: she might be. We got her in the English Spanish

830
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 3: Emerging program. She does half day niggas haf a day Spanish,

831
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 3: so well, she'll be bilingual. She'll know more than me

832
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 3: by the time she's five.

833
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: Right, ye, right, Are you afraid for her, like with

834
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: the climate of all of this violence and racial hatred

835
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: that's going on in America?

836
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 2: Not not, No, I'm not afraid.

837
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna make sure she's well prepared, you know,

838
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 3: and make sure I put all safeguards I can in

839
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 3: place to make sure that you know, she can navigate

840
00:38:59,080 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 3: through it.

841
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 1: This for the benefit of people who don't know what

842
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: that you know, what to do. What are some of

843
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: the things that you're doing. The safeguard he.

844
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 2: Setting up.

845
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 3: Financial structures like trusts, any things like that, so she

846
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 3: has a safety net of money, you know, and starting early,

847
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 3: because you can start investing small amounts now, and by

848
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 3: the time a kid is eighteen twenty two whatever, you know,

849
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 3: they have a good cushion to be able to live

850
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 3: off of. And also trying to nurture whatever they want

851
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 3: to do. Oftentimes, what we believe we should do is

852
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 3: try to force our kids to do well we think

853
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 3: they should do, or do what we're doing and that

854
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 3: shouldn't be your goal. Your goal should be to create

855
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 3: an environment where they can have whatever opportunity they want

856
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 3: at whatever pace they want. A lot of times we

857
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 3: push our kids out the house too fast. Other culture

858
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:54,919
Speaker 3: let the kids stay in the house of they're thirty,

859
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 3: you know, and they end up being worth forty or fifty.

860
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So those are the kind of safeguards

861
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 2: I'm speaking of.

862
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 3: And then also my goal is to set up my

863
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 3: businesses to where my kids can inherit atm machines.

864
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 2: So maybe they don't want to work, maybe they want

865
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 2: to travel. I want to have.

866
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 3: Decision makers in my business that will run the business

867
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 3: without my kid having to step.

868
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: In and do the work. And how do you do that.

869
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 1: You put it in the trust.

870
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can put it in trust, or it could

871
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 3: be any type of corporation. I mean, any normal business.

872
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 2: You should have.

873
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 3: A few people under you doing the work so that

874
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 3: you are not the sole reason that the business is successful. Right,

875
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 3: And that should be everybody's goal. And that's what I

876
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 3: tell entrepreneurs all the time. Stop bashing people that got

877
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 3: jobs because.

878
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 2: You need them.

879
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 3: You need good people that want to come and work

880
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 3: for somebody. And perform so that your business can grow,

881
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 3: so you don't have to be the one stressing every night,

882
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 3: you know, with the headaches. But when you ask what's

883
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 3: the structure, it could be any structure. It could be

884
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 3: a LLC, it could be a c corp, it could

885
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 3: be an escort. That's just more how you handle the

886
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 3: financial set of it, or how you protect the financial

887
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 3: side of it. But the goal is to have an

888
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 3: actual successful business in the process. You can have all

889
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 3: these LLCs and trusts and all this other kind of stuff,

890
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 3: but if it's not really making no money, what's it

891
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 3: there for. It's just useless pieces of paper.

892
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: Earlier, you alluded to the incompetency of some of the

893
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 1: people that are in the real estate space on the internet.

894
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:29,240
Speaker 1: Are they doing more good or harm for the masses?

895
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 2: Harm? A lot of harm, a lot of harm. Let's

896
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: go back to Grand car Dome.

897
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 3: One thing he preaches all the time is don't buy

898
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 3: your primary residence at all. Now I'm completely against that

899
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 3: because if you buy a house in the right area,

900
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 3: it really can be your biggest investment. For instance, my

901
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 3: house is on Liberty Road that I built. All most

902
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 3: of my buyers they just have regular jobs. None of

903
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 3: them wanted to be investors. But they have over one

904
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollarsand equity in their house just because it's

905
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 3: in the right location. That's definitely a return on the investment.

906
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 3: But you know, it's it's it's that that's just the

907
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 3: base case of bad advice. Everybody telling everybody to do

908
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 3: short term rentals and airbnbs and all that kind of stuff.

909
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 3: A lot of markets, the market is saturated. There's not

910
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 3: a big demand for rentals over there right now. For

911
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 3: short term hotels are fighting back against all that, you know,

912
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 3: because they're losing market share. So it's so much misinformation

913
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 3: out there that people think because somebody is doing lifestyle

914
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 3: marketing with a rented Lamborghini and a fake Rolex, but

915
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 3: you can't tell from from the videos that they know

916
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 3: what they're talking about. Now, you're taking bad advice from

917
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,919
Speaker 3: somebody who really is only making money off of selling

918
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 3: you bad information. They're not even really successful in their

919
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 3: own business.

920
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: All their paper coming from that side, right membership, Right, Yeah, Yeah,

921
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: So you mentioned that you owned you bought the property

922
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 1: on Liberty Road. Is that the property that is southeast

923
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: of Liberty.

924
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 2: North northeast where Lucy's grocery store used to be. Okay, yeah,

925
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 2: it's townhouses there now, right.

926
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 1: I guess you know a lot of times, man, I'd

927
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,479
Speaker 1: be driving, man, and I was just in Fifth Ward

928
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: Saturday for the Bottom reunion. I don't be paying attention, man,

929
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: I just be just driving. Yeah yeah, looking at the phone.

930
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 2: Yeah.

931
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 3: Now that the property on the south side used to

932
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 3: be a church, but somebody, uh swing the pastor out

933
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 3: of it and it's tied up in litigations.

934
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 2: But I'm trying to get that one too.

935
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. I just said that. I'd

936
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 1: be driving looking at the phone. Somebody like you gonna

937
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: kill somebody?

938
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 2: You don't kill somebody.

939
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: See that. They always be trying to find you find

940
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 1: something that attack you. Well, you know, they don't even

941
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 1: listen to the information and instructions. They just gloss over

942
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: that and go like, what's up with that shirt?

943
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 2: Right?

944
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: Anything to deflect. Yeah, So what is the best place

945
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 1: to buy?

946
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 2: Is it?

947
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 1: Is it the suburbs or is it the hood.

948
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 3: I'm going to say you need to buy wherever you

949
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 3: see the neighborhood starting to change.

950
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 2: If it all looks nice already, it's too late.

951
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 3: It's too late because especially well, let me clarify that

952
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 3: if you are buying just for the convenience of where

953
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 3: you want to live, then none of this matters what

954
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 3: I'm about to say. But if you are buying because

955
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 3: you want to say, I'm making a decision that's going

956
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 3: to pay me or return and put me in a

957
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 3: better financial position, then you want to be somewhere. That's

958
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 3: what we call merging. So turning over, you can see

959
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 3: some new construction happening. You can see somebody buying old

960
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 3: properties and fixing them up. You know something is coming

961
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 3: in the area. Like I said, it could be a

962
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 3: new school, it could be anything like that, and that

963
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 3: could be in the suburbs, or that could be in

964
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 3: the city. It really depends on what market shaan. But

965
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 3: whenever you do that, you almost guarantee that whatever you

966
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 3: buy is gonna be worth more next year more of

967
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 3: a year after that. And so that's what always suggests

968
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 3: people look and you can do things like just type

969
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 3: in whatever city you're in and type in the planning department,

970
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 3: the Housing and Urban Planning department, or you can type

971
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 3: in city council meeting minutes and look for the things

972
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 3: to talk about development, real estate, housing, all those those

973
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 3: those are going to be indicators. All this stuff is

974
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 3: public record, public information. They'll tell you where the city

975
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 3: wants to go. The city council meetings will tell you

976
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 3: where the developers are asking for permission to do projects,

977
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:31,959
Speaker 3: and those how you that's how you should be picking

978
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 3: the errors to move to, especially if it's our historically

979
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 3: black neighborhoods, because we usually miss all that and like

980
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 3: I said, other people buy it up. By the time,

981
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 3: by the time you actually see the activity, somebody's already

982
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 3: bought it.

983
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, you are very good at connecting and networking. You

984
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: ever thought about running for office?

985
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 2: And that is the furthest thing from my mind. I

986
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 2: feel like we too much of our.

987
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 3: Of our community leadership goes to the political side, and

988
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 3: we need more of it to stay on the private side. Yeah,

989
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 3: because that's that's what we have a deficit. You know,

990
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 3: we had a lot of strong politicians, but we need

991
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 3: like we're talking about earlier, we need more people like

992
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 3: me doing developments, doing the entire neighborhoods and entire communities

993
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 3: for us. We need more people starting banks, you know,

994
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 3: starting businesses that are going to benefit the community.

995
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 2: We need, I mean simple things.

996
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 3: We all know how bad we get racially profile for appraisals.

997
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 3: We need more appraisal companies. We need all these things,

998
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 3: but we complain about all the time. We just need

999
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 3: more people that are that are running the businesses from

1000
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 3: our communities, helping us make.

1001
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 2: The right decisions.

1002
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, program, we need that. Yeah. I'm just sitting here thinking, man,

1003
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: that you're a very valuable asset to our community. And

1004
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: you hit the nail on the head, man. We do

1005
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: we need because we need more people that do things

1006
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: outside of politics. We need more king makers than kings,

1007
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: more queen makers than queens. And because that's who really

1008
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: run it if you really think it, you think about it,

1009
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:20,720
Speaker 1: the politicians and the business people, that's who run the world. Yeah,

1010
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: but it is the business people that the politicians must

1011
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: acquiesce yes other ones. Yeah, who you know who really

1012
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: call the shots?

1013
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1014
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, and we always talk about voting,

1015
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 3: but what we don't really talk about is those those

1016
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 3: lobbyists and those super packs that are the ones that

1017
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 3: really get behind the politicians.

1018
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 2: Like you said, they're the biggest donors.

1019
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 3: When you know, when these when these bills hit the

1020
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 3: floor of Congress, and they five six hundred pages.

1021
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:56,439
Speaker 2: And politicians ain't writing all that those lottery either.

1022
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 3: Those lobby groups are the ones putting all that together

1023
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 3: and given it to them to put into the bill.

1024
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 3: That's how legislation has really made it passed. But we

1025
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 3: don't talk about that side of it, and that's what

1026
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,720
Speaker 3: we lack. We're heavy on the voting, heavy on the politics.

1027
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 3: But if we pulled our money and formed these super

1028
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 3: packs and these lobbies to push for our issues we get,

1029
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 3: we'll get a lot further.

1030
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let's talk about putting together a superpack. You know,

1031
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: what would you start?

1032
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 2: Man?

1033
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:30,879
Speaker 3: Everybody is everybody that's got money. I mean, it's really

1034
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 3: really that simple. And I know some some black lobbyists,

1035
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 3: but they work for other firms that have other initiatives,

1036
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 3: saving alligators or some random stuff, you know, but they

1037
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 3: should be focused on our black community. The average lobbyists

1038
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 3: starting salaries like four hundred thousand dollars a year. So

1039
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 3: we thirty or forty of us, maybe one hundred of

1040
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,240
Speaker 3: us all decided, hey, we're gonna put in ten thousand

1041
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 3: a year, you know, to hire a few lobbyists, you know,

1042
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,760
Speaker 3: to go maybe start the state level and the lobby

1043
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 3: for certain things that we want to see locally and

1044
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 3: in our county and our state, and then we grow

1045
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 3: that to go national with it. You know, focus on

1046
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 3: specific topics and maybe find the business owners that are

1047
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 3: in that specific sector that have a vested interest in

1048
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 3: seeing it be successful. Then you know, we can move

1049
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 3: forward that way. For instance, we talked I talked earlier

1050
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 3: about the airbnbs. The lobby packs for the Airbnbs are

1051
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 3: mainly hotels. Hotel owners, right, because they're going to put

1052
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 3: money behind hiring these lobbyists to change the laws to

1053
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 3: make it harder for people to own airbnbs. So it's

1054
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 3: not as complex of a concept as we think it is.

1055
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 3: We just have to start implementing it.

1056
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: Let's say I wanted to get started in real estate,

1057
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: but I don't know what to do. I reach out

1058
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: to Chris Seneg I want to join his real estate

1059
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: school for dummish. You know, what's the first step do

1060
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: I do I take? And what and what comfortable? What

1061
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 1: do I get from my membership? Yeah?

1062
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 3: Okay, so I got I got the base level, which

1063
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 3: is the real estate blueprint, which exposes you to all

1064
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 3: different areas of real estate.

1065
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 2: Some people may not have money, but they have time.

1066
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 3: So there's certain things you can do to go out

1067
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 3: and source deals and opportunities called whole selling or taking

1068
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 3: the time to become a licensed agent, and you can

1069
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 3: learn that way. Other people have money capital, they want

1070
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 3: to invest, Okay, so then I'm gonna show them a

1071
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 3: different a completely different route. You can pool money and

1072
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 3: do crowdfunding type deals, or you can partner with an

1073
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 3: existing investor. And so I have this self paced online

1074
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 3: membership where you can go through that stuff and read

1075
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 3: through all different things and figure out what what what

1076
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 3: suits you best.

1077
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 2: And it goes even further.

1078
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 3: I mean there's other areas of real estate where you

1079
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 3: can make money like appraisals, inspections only title companies, and

1080
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 3: most people think I don't want to actually do the work.

1081
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 2: You don't have to.

1082
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 3: You start the business and then hire people to do

1083
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 3: the actual work. And so it's so many different sectors

1084
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 3: you can go into and learn more about real estate.

1085
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 3: And then after you start reading that and you find

1086
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 3: something that you identify with, then you can hone in

1087
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 3: and say, okay, well Chris, I want to know specifically

1088
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 3: about this. How do I do new construction, so then

1089
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 3: I have training material to teach you how to do

1090
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 3: new constructions specifically.

1091
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:31,720
Speaker 1: And then.

1092
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 3: From there, the people that say, Okay, I'm really ready

1093
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 3: to go, Chris, I want some one on one mentorship.

1094
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 3: I only take people that have gone through at least

1095
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 3: the curriculum first, so that I'm not starting from scratch

1096
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 3: teaching you how to do everything. And then what I

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Speaker 3: do from there is I'll do some of the work,

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Speaker 3: but I'm gonna leverage my network, my vetted people that

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Speaker 3: I've already known to have done good business with other

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Speaker 3: people or have done business with me directly, and I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna put you in their hand and let them help

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Speaker 3: you go through the process. But I always teach we

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Speaker 3: got to use the undercover boss undercover boss approach. If

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Speaker 3: you ever watched the show, the CEO never really knows.

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Speaker 3: Everybody does their job. Your job is to pick the

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Speaker 3: right people and assemble the right team around you of experts,

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Speaker 3: and then that's that's your shortcut to success, that which

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Speaker 3: goes back to that success try and go.

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Speaker 2: You're going to find the knowledge and experience to work with,

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Speaker 2: and so I teach all.

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Speaker 1: Of that in my in my curriculums, and what does

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Speaker 1: this curriculum cost? What kind of money I'm looking?

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Speaker 3: Okay, so the base one is only forty seven dollars

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Speaker 3: a month, and it's it's at your own pace, you know,

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Speaker 3: and I'll upload and add material to it whenever I

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Speaker 3: may go speak at an event and I get some

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Speaker 3: good good footage, or I might find a good article

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Speaker 3: or something, I'll add that to there. And then the courses,

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Speaker 3: they're like, I keep them under five hundred dollars a piece,

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Speaker 3: you know, and those are self paced too.

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Speaker 1: Is that a month?

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Speaker 2: No one time? One time, one time? And then for

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Speaker 2: the one on one mentorship it's five hundred. Man.

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Speaker 1: I know, some of those courses be like ten thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: If you're going to pay one time, it's ten thousand.

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Speaker 1: You're going to pay monthly, it's like fifteen hundred, two

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars a month.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: My goal isn't to get rich off of selling the information,

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Speaker 3: you know. My goal is to at least somebody feel like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I've spent some money on this, so you know, people

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Speaker 3: treat that with a little bit more respect and regard

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Speaker 3: than something that's free.

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Speaker 2: But I also don't want to price everybody out of.

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Speaker 3: It, because I remember trying to get out of flipping

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Speaker 3: houses into new construction, and even the brothers that were

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Speaker 3: successful in the city, nobody really wanted to give me

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Speaker 3: exposure to all the information. So my goal now is

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Speaker 3: to make sure I can provide that information as many

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Speaker 3: people as possible that want it. And you know, if

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Speaker 3: they want to go past that level and get more serious,

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Speaker 3: then they can pay five to ten thousand for the

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Speaker 3: one on one mentorship. Right, they get me a couple

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Speaker 3: of people from my team, but all my resources too.

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Speaker 3: So and my ass three students have made over one

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Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars and when they finished their first project,

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Speaker 3: so like equity and a deal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned I think I read on your website

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Speaker 1: where you the first deal that you get a new

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Speaker 1: construction deal you did, you lost forty thousand dollars and

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Speaker 1: from that point on you made a point to share

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Speaker 1: the information so that nobody else could lose that kind

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Speaker 1: of money on their first DEALEP yep. Usually the first

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Speaker 1: thing somebody's thinking, like, how can I make sure that

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Speaker 1: I don't lose any more money? Yeah, you're already thinking

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Speaker 1: about other people. You're trying to go to heaven us sun.

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Speaker 2: I'm hoping on the short list.

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Speaker 1: H You alright, man, you're a good dude.

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Speaker 2: Bro.

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Speaker 1: You're a good dude man, and uh you know, I

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Speaker 1: wish you, you know, all the best man and we

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Speaker 1: go we gotta do business together, definitely, uh shit, even

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Speaker 1: if we don't even do business together. Man, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think it would just be good to, you know,

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Speaker 1: have a cat like you in the circle. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm in a circle of a lot of really really strong,

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Speaker 1: influential guys, and you know, we're all on the same

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Speaker 1: page as far as like trying to help each other

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Speaker 1: and help our people. So we definitely got to keep

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Speaker 1: continue to discussion.

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Speaker 3: Definitely, definitely welcome service. Yes, sir, I appreciate it. Appreciate

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Speaker 3: the opportunity. I appreciate you sharing the platform so that

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Speaker 3: I can get this message in front of more people.

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Speaker 1: You know, absolutely, it's it's a.

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Speaker 2: Lifetime achievement for you. So I wanted just to be

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Speaker 2: in the room.

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Speaker 1: You know, I appreciate it. So how can the people

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Speaker 1: reach out to you?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 3: My social media Instagram is the easiest way. It's just

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Speaker 3: my name C H R I. S. S. E. N.

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Speaker 2: E G. A L.

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Speaker 3: I have links to everything I have going on, all

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Speaker 3: my announcements for wherever be speaking at, or any new

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Speaker 3: courses or projects I have coming up. You know, that's

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Speaker 3: my outlet right there to get started. And if you

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Speaker 3: just google my name, it'll pull up all my links.

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Chris Senegal, No More Talk. This episode

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Speaker 1: was produced by A King and brought to you by

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