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Speaker 3: Was introducing you stock market This from Fortune three days ago.

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Speaker 3: The overvaluation is of a lot of stocks.

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Speaker 5: Look, there's no question the market has been almost priced

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Speaker 5: And by the way, you're talking about crypto and you're

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Speaker 5: This morning and so far as Bigcoin has now fallen

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Speaker 5: All of a sudden, literally in a week, we've now

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Speaker 6: About that's Andrew Ross Sorkin of the New York Times.

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Speaker 6: That's it's on squawk box of Mark Beckman. Marks. He's

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Speaker 6: a professor of Emerging Technologies over at NYU. He's also

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Speaker 6: about artificial intelligence, and our own Joe Allen, I'll start

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Speaker 6: with Mark. Here's what so, folks, here's what the big

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Speaker 6: apartheid state of Silicon Valley. The progressive leftist that all

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Speaker 6: They're incredibly bad units. They've had this model and that's

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Speaker 6: Now the question is is this a Sputnik moment or

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Speaker 7: Sir Steve, thank you so much for having me today.

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Speaker 7: This isn't an overnight thing. Deep Seek's been around for

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Speaker 4: Have access to our data. There's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 4: Some Mark, hangover a second.

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Speaker 6: You know, one of our folks in the production crew,

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Speaker 4: We've made we basically in Obama and Biden.

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Speaker 4: You know, was it Linda khan Aside?

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Speaker 6: You know right now there's fifty or seventy ev companies,

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Speaker 6: to an algorithm. So andresen you guys will make a

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Speaker 6: fortune Secoia Capital, You'll make a fortune, all of it.

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Speaker 4: And yet here we are, and correct me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 6: You have on social media with TikTok, you have something

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Speaker 6: And now you have deep seek and if you believe

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Speaker 4: Sir, Well, here's the thing, Steve.

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Speaker 7: The way you teed this up, this segment is important.

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Speaker 7: And you're going to see it right here, right now.

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Speaker 7: So most people are going to use deep Seek, probably

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Speaker 6: Tell me about some future day your book, because you're

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Speaker 7: I'm very optimistic about it, and I created I wrote

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Speaker 9: you have American accelerationists saying that all of the talk

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Speaker 9: about safety and all of the caution needs to be

437
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Speaker 9: thrown out. We need to jump into the AI race

438
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Speaker 9: full steam ahead. And that means ultimately that they are

439
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Speaker 9: going to justify as much as possible the development of

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Speaker 9: any kind of AI system that they feel is profitable

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Speaker 9: or beneficial. And it also means that in order for

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Speaker 9: for instance, a large language model to work, you have

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Speaker 9: to scrape as much data as possible, kind of naturally

444
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Speaker 9: married to a degree of surveillance or at least of

445
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Speaker 9: data mining. And so that's going to be a much

446
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Speaker 9: larger push with many fewer regulations. So it's both on

447
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Speaker 9: the one hand, you have the Chinese syop, we can

448
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Speaker 9: do it better than you with less compute and less money,

449
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Speaker 9: and on the American side they're saying, no.

450
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Speaker 8: We need more compute and more money.

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Speaker 9: We will take these sorts of open source projects will

452
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Speaker 9: make them a thousand times better and Ultimately, the arms

453
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Speaker 9: raised in the conception of the Silicon Valley guys leads

454
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Speaker 9: to a singularity.

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Speaker 4: Hangar for one second.

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Speaker 6: The acceleration is part is another brilliant part of the signal,

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Speaker 6: because any of the controls we talked about, they said, no, no, no,

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Speaker 6: you gotta get rid of the controls.

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Speaker 4: Also, the visas H one v visas ah.

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Speaker 6: This proves we need all the Einstein's, although they're not

461
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Speaker 6: bringing in Einstein's.

462
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Speaker 4: In fact, the AI will.

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Speaker 6: Do away with the jobs for the low end South

464
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Speaker 6: Asian tech workers that are suppressing wages for Americans. We're

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Speaker 6: going to unpack it all. Plus we'll go to Texas next.

466
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Speaker 6: Only in the world.

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Speaker 2: Huge host Stephen K.

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Speaker 6: Bath Okay, I think we may be having a technical

469
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Speaker 6: issue with Lee Walmsgan if we're going to bring her back.

470
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Speaker 6: I think at five o'clock, I got to talk about

471
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Speaker 6: this Texas thing, and I want to show you the

472
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Speaker 6: ward that the folks in Denton gave me very touching.

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Speaker 4: Wasn't expecting that just going down and give a talk.

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Speaker 6: I'm also going to bring Joe back because we're going

475
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Speaker 6: to see how the stock market at one point it

476
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Speaker 6: was over Tree and dollars heading to two trellion dollars,

477
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Speaker 6: a market cap wiped out a little bit of stability

478
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Speaker 6: as people try to work through this. This gets back

479
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Speaker 6: to this gets back to the oligarchs, because they're definitely

480
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Speaker 6: making a move. There's no doubt about that. Let's let's

481
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Speaker 6: be let's be logical about it. All these people, all

482
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Speaker 6: of them Elon Aside, all of them despise Maga. Zuckerberg

483
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Speaker 6: despises Maga. Altman despises Maga. And by that I mean

484
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Speaker 6: also Trump, the leader of the Maga movement, and Dressen

485
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Speaker 6: despises Magat despises Trump. They think you're just, they think

486
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Speaker 6: you're a You are useless, essentially useless. Their whole model

487
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Speaker 6: is to figure out how to replace humans with machines.

488
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Speaker 6: If I can generalize, that's essentially the direction of it.

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Speaker 6: They want to replace humans with machines. They want those

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Speaker 6: machines to have all the way up to even consciousness

491
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Speaker 6: if they feel they can control that. You know, we're

492
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Speaker 6: playing around with the deep sea. Can you ask anything

493
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Speaker 6: about you know, anything about SI, anything about Tenement Square,

494
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 6: anything about Taiwan. You get straight on Chinese commuties, party propaganda.

495
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Speaker 6: You don't get truth, you don't get facts. Same thing

496
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Speaker 6: on TikTok. We have faced I realize people love using TikTok,

497
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Speaker 6: and there's got to be a way for us to

498
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Speaker 6: get a deal where we can control the algorithm in

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Speaker 6: the company and do it in a way that people

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Speaker 6: feel comfortable with. Although I would tell you, even with

501
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Speaker 6: the seven million companies that they are using and make

502
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Speaker 6: it thinks it is it's addictive for a reason. They

503
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 6: built this for a reason. They now have the ability

504
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Speaker 6: for these algorithms to basically capture you, capture your spirit.

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Speaker 4: That's why we're in a very It's.

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Speaker 6: An age of tremendous promise, but it's also an age

507
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Speaker 6: with the pit of darkness right there, and it depends

508
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Speaker 6: on That's why more than ever, and this is why

509
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 6: for four years we've been doing this and making sure

510
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Speaker 6: that you're the most informed, not just in the MAGA movement,

511
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Speaker 6: the most informed in the country about these issues, as

512
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Speaker 6: we've done for four years, because this once again is

513
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Speaker 6: going to require the common sense and decency, the three

514
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Speaker 6: basic aspects that the American people bring together collectively as

515
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Speaker 6: a group and to make decisions is common sense, decency,

516
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Speaker 6: and kind of grit and determination, understand the reality and

517
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Speaker 6: what has to happen to effectuate or make happen what

518
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Speaker 6: they're thinking is right. History shows us that takes a

519
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 6: while to get there. But you can't stop the power

520
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 6: of the American people. Why because this country has got

521
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Speaker 6: a system where the little guy that throughout the world,

522
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Speaker 6: either in the empires of Asia or the monarchies in

523
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Speaker 6: Europe or the dictatorships all over the world from Sub

524
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Speaker 6: Saharan Africa to Latin America to Asia and Central Asia,

525
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Speaker 6: Europe have not had the little guy, has not been

526
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Speaker 6: able to express his common sense in the decency of

527
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Speaker 6: the little guy, because there's a commonality of that all

528
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Speaker 6: over the world. And this may be the biggest challenge

529
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Speaker 6: of all because there's so much money to be made.

530
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Speaker 4: It's so powerful, it.

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Speaker 6: Has such ability for dictatorial total control and total power

532
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 6: with also money that you can't believe, wealth that you

533
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 6: can't believe. This is why this is a part of

534
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 6: techno feudalism. It's what Joe Allen and I bonded on

535
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Speaker 6: when I first was reading his great stuff over the Federalist,

536
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 6: that this is the ultimate fight for freedom. It's when

537
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 6: people say, oh, you guys about the replacement theory of

538
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 6: whites with people color, and said, you couldn't be farther

539
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 6: from the truth. We fight for everybody that's a citizen,

540
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Speaker 6: regardless of ethnicity, a race. It's about citizenship in your

541
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Speaker 6: own country, in the sovereignty of your own country. This

542
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 6: is about replacement theory. This is one hundred percent replacement theory.

543
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Speaker 6: And that is replacement theory of human beings made in

544
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Speaker 6: the image and likeness of God and spewed with the

545
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Speaker 6: life force of the Holy Spirit, who shall not be mocked.

546
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Speaker 6: As our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ tells you shall

547
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Speaker 6: not be blaspheming, because that's the only unforgivable sin.

548
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Speaker 4: Think of when he says that this is a guy.

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Speaker 4: If you read, if you read the.

550
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Speaker 6: New Testaments, the New Testament, all four of them, and

551
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 6: even the ones that maybe are not totally signed off

552
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 6: on the entire time, it's the empathy, the courage, and

553
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 6: the toughness. It's only one time he tells you that

554
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Speaker 6: there's something here. You go past this and I can't

555
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 6: help you. Nobody can help you. It's not forgiven. It's

556
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 6: an eternal sin. That's to mock the blaspheme. The Holy Spirit.

557
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Speaker 6: What does that mean? To play God? And that's where

558
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 6: we're heading, and we're heading there rapidly and very quickly.

559
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Speaker 6: It's going to be not reversible. This is my warning people.

560
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Speaker 6: It's not going to be reversible. This is why Joe

561
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Speaker 6: Allen's been slaving away here for four years. There's a

562
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Speaker 6: point of no return. Joe Allen, I know you've been

563
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Speaker 6: particularly we talked about redoing your efforts on your special project,

564
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Speaker 6: which we're going to complete, but you've got to get

565
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Speaker 6: back into the frame on a daily basis.

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Speaker 4: How worried about you? How worried are you right now

567
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Speaker 4: about all of this, sir?

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Speaker 9: You know, the spiritual element that you just mentioned is

569
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Speaker 9: the most disturbing to me because whatever the actual developments

570
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Speaker 9: are in this technological field, whether it's AI brain, computer interfaces,

571
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Speaker 9: humanoid robots, genetic engineering, whatever, the actual outcome of the technology.

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Speaker 8: Is, the spirit of it is exactly what you said.

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Speaker 9: The spirit of it is to first play God and

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Speaker 9: then in the more extreme versions, to become gods, and

575
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Speaker 9: in the most extreme version, to build a digital God

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Speaker 9: or a pantheon of digital gods. Now, I think most

577
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Speaker 9: of the people in the audience would say well, that's impossible.

578
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Speaker 8: Absolutely, that's impossis. But what is not impossible.

579
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Speaker 9: Is to build up idols like they did in Egypt

580
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Speaker 9: or in Rome and to make people bow down to

581
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Speaker 9: them or entice people to bow down to them. And

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Speaker 9: I think that is the biggest concern I have long

583
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Speaker 9: run because you already see it.

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Speaker 8: It starts with the big.

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Speaker 9: Dreamers and the kind of sci fi fantasists who envision

586
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Speaker 9: an AI that can solve every problem, that can answer

587
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Speaker 9: every question, that can satisfy every desire, and that belief

588
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 9: that faith is being manifested.

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Speaker 8: The ais that they have right now.

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Speaker 9: Are good enough that, let's just say, most dopes would

591
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Speaker 9: be willing to say it's smarter than they are, or

592
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Speaker 9: at least that it's the greatest mentor they've ever had.

593
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Speaker 9: And as those systems become more sophisticated, you're going to

594
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 9: get smarter and smarter and more more capable people that

595
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 9: either feel that way or they sell people on the

596
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Speaker 9: idea that it is that way. So that spiritual element

597
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Speaker 9: that is what really concerns me, and even those in

598
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Speaker 9: the know, kind of conservative religious spear who say, no, no, no, no,

599
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Speaker 9: we can program this to be holy. We can program

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Speaker 9: the AI to proselytize people and to teach people about Jesus.

601
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Speaker 9: The AI will never be a human example like someone

602
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Speaker 9: who's actually filled with the Holy Spirit, and the AI

603
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Speaker 9: is always going to be this kind of soulless mirror

604
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Speaker 9: to that image of God. So yet the spiritual element

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Speaker 9: is probably the most unsettling on a practical level. I

606
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Speaker 9: get the desire for wealth algorithmic mammon, and I get

607
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Speaker 9: the desire to stay ahead militarily of our geopolitical rivals,

608
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Speaker 9: but it is going it's going to have to be

609
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Speaker 9: counter balanced with a strong spiritual core, because this is

610
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Speaker 9: playing with fire on a cosmic level.

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Speaker 6: No, this gets back to the whole Davos. This is

612
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Speaker 6: the manifestation of the spiritual war. Look, we're going to

613
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Speaker 6: keep you up to speed on the geopolitical, the military,

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Speaker 6: the the the the financial and economic, the stock market,

615
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 6: all the financial aspects of this, all the military aspects

616
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Speaker 6: of this, the geopolitical aspects of this, the societal aspects.

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Speaker 4: But you talk about, and people come to it a

618
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Speaker 4: spiritual war. This is where the spiritual war is.

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Speaker 6: This is the this is the manifestation of it, of

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Speaker 6: all of it, and you can see with the arrogance.

621
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Speaker 6: And this is why I'm so against the apartheid state

622
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Speaker 6: of Silicon Valley. The apartheid state was made as a deal.

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Speaker 6: It's made as a conscious deal. Now think about that

624
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Speaker 6: for a second. The Obama administration was the most progressive

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Speaker 6: quote unquote.

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Speaker 4: In American history.

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Speaker 6: Remember that on the two things that really matter, money

628
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Speaker 6: and power, they were the most reactionary in American history.

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Speaker 4: How do I say that easily?

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Speaker 6: The facts backed me up their solution to the two

631
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Speaker 6: thousand and eight And he did not create the two

632
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Speaker 6: thousand and eight financial collapse, had nothing to do with it.

633
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Speaker 6: Something you had these community groups that took out to

634
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Speaker 6: forget that that was minor, marginal. But Obama's solution because

635
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 6: the constitutional lord and didn't know much better, and he

636
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 6: was bought and paid for by the sociopathic overlords on

637
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Speaker 6: Wall Street, Tim Geidner and those guys. This solution, the

638
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Speaker 6: ballout of the wealthy, the ballout of the system, and

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00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 6: the concentration of wealth, the greatest we've ever had is reactionary,

640
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Speaker 6: not progressive.

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Speaker 4: That's reactionary.

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Speaker 6: The progressives all Rachel mout on these people down the foreground,

643
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 6: showing you the pro wrestling. On the second part, that's

644
00:37:56,040 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 6: the money. On the second part the power. They essentially

645
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 6: made a deal. Remember they they came to San Francisco

646
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Speaker 6: Airport and had that meeting in that conference room early

647
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 6: on where zuckervering this guy show him the power of

648
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Speaker 6: Facebook to allow him to beat Hillary Clinton and then

649
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Speaker 6: to beat the Republicans. The Faustian bargain made of San

650
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 6: Francisco Airport. That Faustian bargains the following is that we

651
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Speaker 6: will allow you an apartheid state, to become an apartheid state,

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Speaker 6: or actually evolve more rapidly as apartheid state, because we're

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Speaker 6: gonna give you monopolistic power. We're not going to have

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Speaker 6: the FTC after you're not going to have the SEC

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Speaker 6: after you notck of the Justice Department, after the Anti

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Speaker 6: Trust Department. We're gonna allow you to build monopolies Facebook, Google,

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Speaker 6: monopolistic power. So it's not about profits, about rent seeking.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna allow you become rent seekers, and you're gonna

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Speaker 6: call your own shots on all of it. And you're

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Speaker 6: not gonna have to have any Hispanics, any blacks, any

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Speaker 6: working class whites, nobody.

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Speaker 4: You get to pick it.

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Speaker 6: In fact, if you want to pick slave labor from

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Speaker 6: South Asia and treat them like indentured servants, go for it,

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Speaker 6: because we'll gain the system.

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Speaker 4: Make sure you get all the visas you need.

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Speaker 6: That trade off was you're going to be the most powerful,

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Speaker 6: You're going to deliver us ultimate technological power in the

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Speaker 6: United States. And what happened at the same time because

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Speaker 6: they in the Chinese Companies Party stealing with the kent,

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Speaker 6: educating and going back. It looks like now that part

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Speaker 6: of the bargain wasn't accomplished, but the most progressive in

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Speaker 6: history set up the most reactionary state in history, the

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Speaker 6: sociopathic overlords of Wall Street and the Ola Garks in

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Speaker 6: Silicon Valley. This is, in essence, what the MAGA movement

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Speaker 6: is fighting in response to of both the financial collapse

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Speaker 6: of two thousand and eight and also as it evolved

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Speaker 6: to try to the ability to destroy Trump in the

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Speaker 6: MAGA movement by absolute technological dominance of social.

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Speaker 4: Media means of communications. That in essence is the story

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Speaker 4: of our age, our era.

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Speaker 6: Politically, that is why you are so powerful, That's why

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Speaker 6: you're so hated. That's why they must destroy you. They

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Speaker 6: must destroy Trump because he's the leader and all the

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Speaker 6: grun dunes around him, the second tier that Mike Flenn's,

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Speaker 6: the Seve Banal. They must be destroyed also, but ultimately

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Speaker 6: they have to control and suppress and ultimately destroy you.

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Speaker 6: When you're no longer economically necessary. Is a little production unit.

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Speaker 6: Until you've worn out, you're welcome, of which your children

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Speaker 6: and grandchildren will. We're out there welcome quite quickly.

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Speaker 4: With this crowd.

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Speaker 6: That, folks is the fight, and that's why we can't lose.

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Speaker 4: To lose is to lose it all. To lose is to.

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Speaker 6: Let down everything that the Judeo Christian West stands for

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Speaker 6: here and now, in this place and time.

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Speaker 2: Here's your host, Stephen K.

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Speaker 7: Bath.

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Speaker 6: Okay, much more of all this, plus the pregame for

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Speaker 6: President Trump's talk tonight to the conference, and of course

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Speaker 6: the one reconciliation versus two. What I love about the show,

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Speaker 6: and we get from the sublime to the less sublime.

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Speaker 6: Will get you down in dirty with the receipts and

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Speaker 6: the kind of the grunt work and the grit that

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Speaker 6: you got to do to move American politics, but also

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Speaker 6: hopefully give you enough big picture that you can see

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Speaker 6: where we're trying to head on all this. So Lee's

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Speaker 6: going to be back at five. We gotta get this

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Speaker 6: Texas thing is very disturbing because I would argue, respectfully

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Speaker 6: that Sora spent hundreds of millions of dollars to turn Texas.

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Speaker 6: But remember that whole thing we fought for years and

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Speaker 6: Trump won by fourteen points.

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Speaker 4: Full stop.

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Speaker 6: You could argue more than even Florida and Ohio, the

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Speaker 6: other two great states in the MAGA movement, that you

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Speaker 6: could argue that Texas is the railhead of MAGA. And

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Speaker 6: you can figure out why. Basically, the Bush apparatus with

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Speaker 6: a bunch of Democrats, old boy Democrats, control the state House.

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Speaker 6: And so we're going to get into that and what

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Speaker 6: apparatus is still an apparatus that does not put American

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Speaker 4: We're going to get into all this.

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Speaker 6: Please make seapack at seventy six bucks, and I think

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Speaker 6: We're there for then all the days of Seapack live

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Speaker 10: Last year we had a lot of great speakers. So

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Speaker 6: Thank you, honey, got a lot more talk to I'll

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