WEBVTT - Title 42: How a Public Health Law Kills Refugees

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<v Speaker 1>You probably don't remember the passage of Title forty two,

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<v Speaker 1>let alone that of Title forty two tap to six

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<v Speaker 1>a sub Chapter two, Part G Section two sixty four,

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<v Speaker 1>But it's a part of US federal law that gives

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<v Speaker 1>the government of the authority to take emergency action to

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<v Speaker 1>keep communical diseases out of the country. The portion, which

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<v Speaker 1>allows a sweeping disregard for asylum law passed in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>forty four reads in one giant run on paragraph sentences follows.

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<v Speaker 2>Whenever the Surgeon General determines that, by reason of the

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<v Speaker 2>existence of any communicable disease in a foreign country, there

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<v Speaker 2>is serious danger of the introduction of such disease into

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<v Speaker 2>the United States, and that this danger is so increased

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<v Speaker 2>by the introduction of persons or property from such country

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<v Speaker 2>that a suspension of the right to introduce such persons

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<v Speaker 2>and property is required in the interest of the public health.

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<v Speaker 2>The Surgeon General, in accordance with regulations approved by the President,

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<v Speaker 2>shall have the power to prohibit and whole or in part,

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<v Speaker 2>the introduction of persons and property from such countries or

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<v Speaker 2>places as he shall designate, in order to avert such danger,

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<v Speaker 2>and for such period of time as he may deem

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<v Speaker 2>necessary for.

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<v Speaker 1>Such purpose before President Donald Trump's administration used it on

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<v Speaker 1>March twentieth, twenty twenty. It had been used only in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen twenty nine to keep ships from China and the

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<v Speaker 1>Philippines from entering US ports during the meningitis outbreak. But

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<v Speaker 1>in March of twenty twenty, when you probably weren't paying

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<v Speaker 1>much attention because the world was falling apart, or when

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<v Speaker 1>I just returned from a work trip to Rwanda, where

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<v Speaker 1>I was months before any precautions appeared in the USA

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<v Speaker 1>screened for a novel coronavirus. The Trump administration cited this

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<v Speaker 1>public health law in instructions to the Department of Homeland

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<v Speaker 1>Security on restrictions for migrants entering the United States. That

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<v Speaker 1>very same day, Center for Disease Control Director Robert R.

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<v Speaker 1>Redfield relied on this regulation to issue order suspending the

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<v Speaker 1>introduction into the United States of certain individuals who had

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<v Speaker 1>been in quote unquote coronavirus impacted areas and quote who

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<v Speaker 1>would be introduced into a congregate setting at the port

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<v Speaker 1>of entry or a border station. This includes individuals coming

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<v Speaker 1>from Canada or Mexico who would normally be detained by

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<v Speaker 1>CBP after arriving at the border people including asylum seekers

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<v Speaker 1>and accompanied children, and people attending to enter the United

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<v Speaker 1>States between ports of entry, citing the new CDC order.

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<v Speaker 1>That same day, the border patrol began expelling individuals who

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<v Speaker 1>arrived at the US Mexico border without giving them the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to seek asylum. Reports indicate the CDC scientists expressed

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<v Speaker 1>opposition to the invocation of Title forty two, arguing that

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<v Speaker 1>there was really no public health rationale to support it.

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<v Speaker 1>Ever since then, public health experts outside the CDC have

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<v Speaker 1>continued to agree, arguing that while international borders largy remain

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<v Speaker 1>open to other travelers, there is no need to turn

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<v Speaker 1>away refugees and expel them to their home countries or

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<v Speaker 1>send them to Mexico. Despite this, DHS has been applying

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<v Speaker 1>Title forty two to migrants for three years since then,

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<v Speaker 1>and people have been turned away without getting a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to plead their case for asylum three million times.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump is no longer president, but Title forty two has persisted.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually persisted for much longer under Biden's watch two

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<v Speaker 1>years and four months than it did under Trump ten months.

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<v Speaker 1>But we'll get to that part later. First, let's look

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<v Speaker 1>at what this bureaucratic wrinkle does when it's supplied for

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<v Speaker 1>three years across a land border spanning three one and

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<v Speaker 1>forty five kilometers. That's nine hundred and fifty four miles

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<v Speaker 1>for the Americans listening at a time when climate change,

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<v Speaker 1>economic decline, and state and nonstate violence are driving more

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<v Speaker 1>and more people towards the USA's southern border in the

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<v Speaker 1>hope of a better life. We're talking about the title

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<v Speaker 1>forty two this week because it ended on eleventh. In

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<v Speaker 1>a sense, this marks the important change in immigration law,

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<v Speaker 1>But in a sense it doesn't. Immigration was complicated and

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<v Speaker 1>cruel for migrants and profitable for people on both sides

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<v Speaker 1>of the border before March of twenty twenty, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>the same after Title forty two has gone. But nonetheless,

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<v Speaker 1>Title forty two represented a distinct change in how asylum

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<v Speaker 1>works in the US, and, especially when combined with other

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<v Speaker 1>Trump policies that Biden has continued, a distinct change in

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<v Speaker 1>how many people die when coming to this country to

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<v Speaker 1>try and have a better chance at a save future.

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<v Speaker 1>By April of twenty twenty, Title forty two expulsions at

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<v Speaker 1>the border overtook the previous record for expulsions under the

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<v Speaker 1>so called Migrant Protection Protocol, which is better known as

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<v Speaker 1>Remain in Mexico, that was set in August of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen under an agreement reached with the Mexican government. In

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<v Speaker 1>late March of twenty twenty, the border patrol began sending

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote back to Mexico most Mexican, but also Guatemala

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<v Speaker 1>and honduranum Saldareian families and seeing adults encountered at the border.

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<v Speaker 1>This group of nationalities remained unchanged until May of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two, when the Biden administration came to an agreement

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<v Speaker 1>with Mexico to accept quote unquote thousands of Cubans and

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<v Speaker 1>Nicaraguans sent from the United States to Mexico. But this

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't really matter. You'll see that alone these episodes. Immigration

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<v Speaker 1>law on the ground and immigration law in Washington, DC

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<v Speaker 1>are two very different things. There has been extensive documentation

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<v Speaker 1>of individuals expelled to Mexico who do not fit within

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<v Speaker 1>these nationalities, including Haitian asylum seekers, some of whom I've

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<v Speaker 1>spoken to myself. People who are expelled are often driven

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<v Speaker 1>by bus to the nearest port of entry that's a

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<v Speaker 1>land border crossing and told to walk back to Mexico,

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<v Speaker 1>often without their luggage and other belongings. I've found that

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<v Speaker 1>luggage and belongings, including ID cards, clothing, and even little

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<v Speaker 1>stuffed animals, all along the border in the three years

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<v Speaker 1>since Title forty two has been in place. I asked

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<v Speaker 1>my friend Paul to describe what we found in Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've been for a walk along the border wall

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<v Speaker 1>during our time reporting on the National Butterfly Center.

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<v Speaker 4>There you'd find driver's licenses. I believe at one point

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<v Speaker 4>we found like an almost an information packet for like

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<v Speaker 4>it was for a teenager, a teenage girl. I remember

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<v Speaker 4>that because we got pictures of it. And then when

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<v Speaker 4>we took that long walk, remember we walked down the

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<v Speaker 4>border wall, it's two and a half mile walk something

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<v Speaker 4>like that. When we got to the very end of

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<v Speaker 4>the wall where the river was, there was just a

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<v Speaker 4>giant pile of people's stuff. And some of it was

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<v Speaker 4>obviously trash, you know, they were abandoning clothes after they

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<v Speaker 4>changed from crossing and stuff like that, but a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of it was full backpacks, a lot of ID documents

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<v Speaker 4>just in piles, just piles of them. Yeah, yeah, just

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<v Speaker 4>big piles of documents that proved who you were.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing we found with ladders, tons of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently someone built a gazebo out of them. The wall

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<v Speaker 1>varies in design a bit along the border depending on

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<v Speaker 1>when and by whom it was built. But the trum

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<v Speaker 1>design has a flat anti climb plate at the top.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll let Paul describe how that's going.

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<v Speaker 4>It was literally like somebody went to the hardware store

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<v Speaker 4>bought two of the longest or actually sorry, three of

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<v Speaker 4>the longest two by four as you could put two

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<v Speaker 4>of them beside each other, and then just nailed steps

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<v Speaker 4>up them, so you know, they were like sixteen twenty

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<v Speaker 4>feet long, and which was enough to just climb over

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<v Speaker 4>the wall like there weren't There weren't many places actually

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<v Speaker 4>because most of the wall had that anti climb barrier

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<v Speaker 4>at the top, whereas when you didn't have the anti

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<v Speaker 4>climb barrier, you didn't actually they have something to set

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<v Speaker 4>it against. But once you put that on there, you

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<v Speaker 4>could just lean the ladder up against it. It's like

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<v Speaker 4>self defeating.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes these expulsions are not as straightforward as a bus

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<v Speaker 1>to nearest port of entry. CBP has carried out what

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<v Speaker 1>are called lateral transfers by plane or bus, taking migrants

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<v Speaker 1>to another location along the border, to towns like San

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<v Speaker 1>Diego or El Paso, even if they entered in Arizona

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<v Speaker 1>or California. This leaves families stranded in the town where

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<v Speaker 1>they have no connections, no resources, and no community. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>these are people I've met. It won't have escaped the listeners'

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<v Speaker 1>attention that those planes and buses and other means of

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<v Speaker 1>detention and transport are indeed congregate settings, But that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>seem to matter here. Title forty two didn't stop people

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<v Speaker 1>trying to come, but it made the journey more difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>Instead of crossing and trying to turn them selves in

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<v Speaker 1>for asylum or approaching a port of entry, people began

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<v Speaker 1>crossing in more remote places, places without border walls or

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<v Speaker 1>barriers and with less frequent border patrols. In twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>the Border Patrol found two hundred and forty seven dead

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<v Speaker 1>bodies along the border. This is unlikely to represent the

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<v Speaker 1>full human toll of border enforcement. Many deaths in the

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<v Speaker 1>desert go unreported and undiscovered, but it gives some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of point of comparison for the twenty twenty one number.

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<v Speaker 1>After a year of Title forty two, five hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>forty six people died that year. In twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 1>third year of Title forty two, eight one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty seven people died. None of those people were guilty

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<v Speaker 1>of any crime other than wanting a better life, but

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<v Speaker 1>under Title forty two, they lost their lives because the

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<v Speaker 1>US didn't give them a safe way to exercise a

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<v Speaker 1>human right to claim asylum. One local advocate, Hamaira Yusefi

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<v Speaker 1>from a group called Pana the to Ship for the

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<v Speaker 1>Bards with New Americans explain what Title forty two have

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<v Speaker 1>been like for her as an advocate for asylum seekers.

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<v Speaker 5>When the pandemic hit, we saw that Title forty two

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<v Speaker 5>heavily restricted those who were able to seek asylum in

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<v Speaker 5>this country. So while there was chaos happening and folks

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<v Speaker 5>around the world who were trying to come to the

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<v Speaker 5>United States for refuge, they were unable to do so.

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<v Speaker 5>And what this resulted in is people taking an even

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<v Speaker 5>more dangerous path right than before and going between the

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<v Speaker 5>ports of entries in order to try to seek refuge.

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<v Speaker 5>And so we have had hundreds of cases of individuals

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<v Speaker 5>who have gotten themselves injured who the hospitals are calling

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<v Speaker 5>us because they've tried to cross and got injured, and

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<v Speaker 5>where we're trying to help them with getting some basic

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<v Speaker 5>legal services and immediate shelter and those types of things.

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<v Speaker 1>Since Biden took off his human rights first says, it's

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<v Speaker 1>identified more than thirteen thousand incidents of kidnapping, torture, rape,

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<v Speaker 1>or other violent attacks on people blocked or expelled to

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<v Speaker 1>Mexico and a title forty two. That's because it's easy

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<v Speaker 1>for violence to follow people who have no resources and

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<v Speaker 1>no community to protect them. It's for that reason that

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<v Speaker 1>you won't always see faces in my photographs at the border,

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<v Speaker 1>and that some of the names in this series have changed,

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<v Speaker 1>or perhaps we're just using someone's first name. It's also

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<v Speaker 1>for that reason they're not everyone at the border always

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<v Speaker 1>wants to talk. But we do have some interviews coming

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<v Speaker 1>up for you tomorrow. Here's a clip from a discussion

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<v Speaker 1>about this which I recorded the border last week.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to get people's faces, and that's what everybody

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<v Speaker 4>is doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't speak to what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 6>That's what I'm doing.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know about other people.

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<v Speaker 1>You should ask. You should if you think someone's taking

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<v Speaker 1>a photo of you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's okay.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't have a why, you know.

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<v Speaker 8>I wish I could, Yeah, I could tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>People who are subject to Title forty to expulsion are

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<v Speaker 1>not given an opportunity to contest their expulsion on the

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<v Speaker 1>ground on silvered face persecution in the country to which

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<v Speaker 1>they will be expelled. There's a very limited exceptions Title

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<v Speaker 1>forty two for people who quote unquote spontaneously inform CBP

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<v Speaker 1>officers that they fear being tortured in the country to

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<v Speaker 1>which they will be expelled. However, in order to receive

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<v Speaker 1>an official screening by an asylum officer for exemption under

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<v Speaker 1>that provision, the CBP officer must first determine that the

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<v Speaker 1>claim is reasonably believable. From March twenty twenty through September

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one, just two hundred and seventy two people

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<v Speaker 1>were granted the right to seek asylum under this exception.

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<v Speaker 1>The use of Title forty two has been despite the

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<v Speaker 1>relative lack of outrage sin sur bide. The administration took

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<v Speaker 1>office bipartisan in twenty twenty one. A few weeks before

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<v Speaker 1>Biden's inauguration, I spent some time talking to migrants at

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<v Speaker 1>the southern border for slate. Many of them had come

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<v Speaker 1>to a small, tense city that popped up just feet

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<v Speaker 1>from the pedestrian border crossing and the country that they

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<v Speaker 1>had traveled thousands of miles to get to, but that

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<v Speaker 1>they couldn't reach. You can see America through defense there,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can't get there. The camp was diverse in

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<v Speaker 1>its composition. On one trip, I interviewed folks from Haiti, Honduras,

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<v Speaker 1>Ol Salvador, Watemala, and Ethiopia. Here's what one of them

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<v Speaker 1>said to me when he asked his message to President Biden.

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<v Speaker 1>You recognize the voices Daniel's. That's because I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>his permission to use his voice.

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<v Speaker 2>Here we are appealing to President Biden. We aren't bad people.

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<v Speaker 2>Our goal is to work and get ahead in the

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<v Speaker 2>world for our children. We don't want to go back.

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<v Speaker 2>They will kill us, so we are here.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of them wore Biden T shirts, which I suspect

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<v Speaker 1>rctually a plant by right wing a Jean provocateur looking

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<v Speaker 1>to make the new administration look weak. They needn't really

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<v Speaker 1>have bothered with all the effort. Biden would do plenty

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<v Speaker 1>in the next few months to make himself look cruel

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<v Speaker 1>and unkind. Before we talk about that, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>play you a clip from Biden's first press confidence. President.

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<v Speaker 9>You just listed the reasons that people are coming talking

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<v Speaker 9>about in country problems, saying that it happens every year.

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<v Speaker 9>You blamed the last administration, Sir. I just got back

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<v Speaker 9>last night from a recording trip to the border where

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<v Speaker 9>I met nine year old Jose, who walked here from

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<v Speaker 9>Honduras by himself, along with another little boy. He had

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<v Speaker 9>that snout on him and we were able to call

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<v Speaker 9>his family. His mother says that she sent her son

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<v Speaker 9>to this country because she believes that you are not

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<v Speaker 9>deporting unaccompanied miners like her son. That's why she's sent

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<v Speaker 9>him alone from Honduras. So, Sir, you blamed the last administration.

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<v Speaker 9>But is your messaging and saying that these children are

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<v Speaker 9>and will be allowed to stay in this country and

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<v Speaker 9>work their way through this process, encouraging families like Jose's

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<v Speaker 9>to come.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, look.

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<v Speaker 10>The idea that I'm going to say, which I would

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<v Speaker 10>never do. If an unaccompanied child ends up at the border,

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<v Speaker 10>We're just gonna let him starve to death and stay

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<v Speaker 10>on the other side. No previous administrations dead either except Trump.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 10>do it. That's why I've asked the Vice President of

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<v Speaker 10>the United States yesterday to be the lead person I'm

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<v Speaker 10>dealing with focusing on the fundamental reasons why people leave Honduras, Guatemala,

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<v Speaker 10>or Salvadora in the first.

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<v Speaker 1>Place in the coming months, some of which I covered

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<v Speaker 1>for an op ed in NBC about the Biden Administration's

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<v Speaker 1>cruel treatment of Haitian migrants. Things on the border didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get any better. Biden deported more Haitian people in a

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<v Speaker 1>few weeks than the Trump administration did in a year,

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<v Speaker 1>eight hundred and ninety five people reporting in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>versus more than one two hundred people from January twentieth

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<v Speaker 1>to March twenty second, twenty twenty one. While making declarations

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<v Speaker 1>about showing compassion to migrants, the Biden administration packed Haitians

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<v Speaker 1>onto crowded planes and buses and sent them back to

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<v Speaker 1>Haiti in the middle of a pandemic. In March, the

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<v Speaker 1>US sent another pointed disinvitation to Haitians. The US Embassy

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<v Speaker 1>in Haiti tweeted a picture President Joe Biden looking off

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<v Speaker 1>into the distance with a caption in both English and

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<v Speaker 1>Haitian creole. In Creole, it read wing cardi sa bienkie pavini.

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<v Speaker 1>The translation above it was.

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<v Speaker 2>I can say quite clearly, don't come over.

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<v Speaker 1>In July of that year, Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Majorcas,

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<v Speaker 1>himself a child of parents who fled from Cuba, said

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<v Speaker 1>that Haitians and Cubans fleeing unrest in their countries will

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<v Speaker 1>not find safety in the US, even if they have

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<v Speaker 1>a credible claim for asylum, and especially if they flee

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<v Speaker 1>by sea. In doing so, he was echoing statements to

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<v Speaker 1>the US broadcast from planes flying over Haiti following the

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<v Speaker 1>devastating earthquake in twenty ten. Following these announcements, the US

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<v Speaker 1>diverted resources that it could have used to help people

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<v Speaker 1>from suffering in a country which had been destroyed by

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<v Speaker 1>a natural disaster to stop them coming to this country.

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<v Speaker 1>He was also overlooking that under both international and domestic law,

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<v Speaker 1>asylum seekers are entitled to make claims no matter how

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<v Speaker 1>they enter the country. Here's what Mayoka said at his

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<v Speaker 1>press conference.

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<v Speaker 2>Allow me to be clear, if you take to the sea,

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<v Speaker 2>you will not come to the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>Part of this hardline is because of a perceived crisis

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<v Speaker 1>at the border. You don't have to go far on

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter dot com before you run into people like Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Newses Bill Malugan. Yep, the tampon in the coffee guy

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<v Speaker 1>is now a border reporter and he's shamelessly repeating CBP

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<v Speaker 1>statistics about apprehensions on the southern border. Here he is

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<v Speaker 1>talking to his buddy Tucker Carlson. Do you remember that guy?

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<v Speaker 11>Bill Malujin has covered the border more closely than any

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<v Speaker 11>reporter in the United States for the last two years,

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<v Speaker 11>and today, in his estimation, the single largest caravan of

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<v Speaker 11>illegal aliens flowing into this country in his two years

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<v Speaker 11>of watching crossed. Today he broke the story. He's got

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<v Speaker 11>remarkable video for us. He's live at the border now. Bill,

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<v Speaker 11>great to see you.

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<v Speaker 3>What did you.

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<v Speaker 12>See, Tucker cad Evings you you mentioned it right off

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<v Speaker 12>the top. This was easily the biggest group we have

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<v Speaker 12>ever seen during our nineteen months of covering this border crisis.

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<v Speaker 12>And they all crossed illegally into El Paso last night,

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<v Speaker 12>and we got some pretty wild camera footage to show you.

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<v Speaker 12>Take a look at this.

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<v Speaker 4>This was last night in Ol Paso.

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<v Speaker 12>A massive caravan over one thousand illegal immigrants crossing into

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<v Speaker 12>El Paso last night. Local media they're reporting it was

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<v Speaker 12>potentially up to two thousand people and that it was

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<v Speaker 12>possibly the biggest mass crossing in the city's history. Now,

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<v Speaker 12>as you look at the video, you'll see just wave

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<v Speaker 12>after wave after wave of these people walking across the

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<v Speaker 12>river and then gathering on the US side of the

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<v Speaker 12>river where they kind of form a single file line.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not just Fox News doing this. You'll see

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<v Speaker 1>MPR and other more liberal outlets quoting these same statistics

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<v Speaker 1>without the necessary context. They're not lying. Apprehensions are higher,

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<v Speaker 1>but that is in some part because migrants are now

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<v Speaker 1>crossing more than once. In twenty nineteen, before Title forty

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<v Speaker 1>two went into effect, just seven percent of migrants apprehended

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<v Speaker 1>by the Border Patrol had previously been apprehended. The reapprehension

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<v Speaker 1>rate grew to twenty seven percent in fiscal year twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two. This is because we're expelling people to places

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<v Speaker 1>where they have no hope of a better future and

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<v Speaker 1>not leaving them with many options other than to try

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<v Speaker 1>again in more remote and risky settings. Meanwhile, there's much

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<v Speaker 1>less concern from the right and from Democrats at the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that Ukrainians are exempted from Title forty two and

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<v Speaker 1>Russians and Ukrainians generally experience expedited processing of the sort

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<v Speaker 1>which one would hope this country could offer to other

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<v Speaker 1>people escaping conflicts around the world, including many that we started.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked my friend Gustavo Solis, a border investigative reporter

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<v Speaker 1>at KPBS in San Diego, to summarize the Biden administration

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<v Speaker 1>to take on Title forty two.

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<v Speaker 8>Now, on paper of the rationalists, there's a pandemic going on.

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<v Speaker 8>We need to stop or slow the spread of COVID nineteen.

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<v Speaker 8>So because of this extraordinary circumstance, we need Title forty

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<v Speaker 8>two to shore up the border. That was bullshit, and

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<v Speaker 8>we know that now through reporting that it was total bullshit.

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<v Speaker 8>We know that from as early as twenty eighteen, Stephen Miller,

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<v Speaker 8>Trump's White House aid wanted to use Title forty two

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<v Speaker 8>to stop this type of migration. We know that Vice

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<v Speaker 8>President Mike Pence pressured the top doctors at the CDC

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<v Speaker 8>into doing this, basically saying, if you don't do this,

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<v Speaker 8>you might lose your job. Because even then, in March

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<v Speaker 8>twenty twenty doctors at the CDC knew that there was

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<v Speaker 8>no real public health rationale for this. I mean, if

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<v Speaker 8>you look at the order, it's supposed to stop COVID,

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<v Speaker 8>but there weren't any exceptions for migrants who were vaccinated

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<v Speaker 8>or there was no testing component to it. So that's

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<v Speaker 8>kind of the beginning of Title forty two. By the

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<v Speaker 8>time Biden came in office, Biden had promised to end

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<v Speaker 8>it along with Roman in Mexico and restore the humane

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<v Speaker 8>asylum system, but he kept Title forty two place, and

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<v Speaker 8>he didn't just keep it in place, he expanded it

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<v Speaker 8>to include nationalities that weren't included when Trump first rolled

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<v Speaker 8>it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Even as a legal battle went back and forth, another

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<v Speaker 1>major bottom neck emerged in a migration system in the

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<v Speaker 1>form of never ending clusterfuck. That is the CBP one app.

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<v Speaker 1>Again a Le Gustavo explain his reporting here.

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<v Speaker 8>It actually kind of started with the Ukrainians. That was

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<v Speaker 8>kind of how they started using it for the asylum context.

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<v Speaker 8>But CBP one is essentially a phone app for asylum,

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<v Speaker 8>and on paper it kind of makes sense, right instead of, like,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, Joe Biden and the Dems are really terrified

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<v Speaker 8>of the optics of a lot of people at the border,

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<v Speaker 8>and they a lot of their policy is revolved around

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<v Speaker 8>stopping that right. They don't want masses of people at

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<v Speaker 8>the border. The CBP one app aims to address that

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<v Speaker 8>by telling micros, hey, instead of coming all the way

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<v Speaker 8>to Mexico and showing up to the border, just download

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<v Speaker 8>this app and schedule an appointment to come here, and

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<v Speaker 8>we'll let you to see if you're eligible for asylum

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<v Speaker 8>or not. Another example of a policy in Washington, DC

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<v Speaker 8>that has no reality in what's going on the border

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<v Speaker 8>because migrants live in shelters with really bad Wi Fi access,

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<v Speaker 8>and they have crappy phones. So what I found in

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<v Speaker 8>the reporting is that CBP one rewards people with the

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<v Speaker 8>best phones, not necessarily people who are most vulnerable. And

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<v Speaker 8>the story I came out with last week was about

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<v Speaker 8>how data from the Mexican government shows that at least

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<v Speaker 8>in Tijuana, about forty four percent of every migrant who

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<v Speaker 8>has gotten a CBP one application to enter the country

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<v Speaker 8>is a Russian national, and Russian nationals makeup at most

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<v Speaker 8>ten percent of the overall migrant population in Tijuana. So

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<v Speaker 8>you have this situation where a relatively affluent ten percent

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<v Speaker 8>of the population is getting almost half of these humanitarian

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<v Speaker 8>protection appointments that are designed for the world's most vulnerable people.

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<v Speaker 8>And that's what If you one does like it, they

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<v Speaker 8>call it the ticketmaster of asylum. And that's not a compliment.

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<v Speaker 8>That is like ticketmaster fucking sucks. Nobody likes it.

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<v Speaker 1>I also spoke to Caba, an activist who participated a

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<v Speaker 1>mutual aid at the border. We talked about the app

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<v Speaker 1>because Caba has some professional insight into the technologies used.

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<v Speaker 3>I do data science and machine running the native things

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<v Speaker 3>for a living, and the problem of building these systems

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<v Speaker 3>trained entirely on databases of white faces and then the

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<v Speaker 3>motain working for people, you know, the backgrounds is very

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<v Speaker 3>well known in this field. That is a very well

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<v Speaker 3>documented issue for more than a decade. And anyone who

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<v Speaker 3>could tell you about building a facial recognition or some

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<v Speaker 3>kind of a.

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<v Speaker 6>Camera app that does image processing and and I'm only

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<v Speaker 6>training it on.

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<v Speaker 3>My faces, it was like that this is a This

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<v Speaker 3>is not something that I think any competent software development

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<v Speaker 3>house who would have done and not expected.

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<v Speaker 6>So I have a hard time believing that the whole

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<v Speaker 6>chain of everyone that's had to go through from the

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<v Speaker 6>developers on up to you know, anyone who does it

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<v Speaker 6>or you know has authority of these things at CBP

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<v Speaker 6>or Homland Security. This is just it's it's it's like,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know, it's it's, it's it's it's hard to

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<v Speaker 6>believe that this was an ass.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, before we get too far from discussing things to

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<v Speaker 1>fucking suck is an advertising break, you might be wondering

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<v Speaker 1>why Title forty two is ending now and how we

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<v Speaker 1>got here, given that there seems to be a consensus

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<v Speaker 1>in DC that the border is in crisis, and that

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<v Speaker 1>that crisis is not that people were leaving to die

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<v Speaker 1>on the streets on the other side or in the

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<v Speaker 1>deserts of California and Arizona, but the people were allowing

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<v Speaker 1>to come to the richest country's ever existed, from countries

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<v Speaker 1>that we've destabilized for decades to have a chance of

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<v Speaker 1>a decent life. Well, the answer is complicated. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>it's a bit too complicated for me to really spend

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<v Speaker 1>the time explaining, and you don't really need to know

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<v Speaker 1>the ins and outs of court cases to understand that essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>the Biden administration had planned to end Title forty two

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<v Speaker 1>in late twenty twenty two, right after the midterms. Title

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<v Speaker 1>forty two actually became theoretically unenforceable in November of that

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<v Speaker 1>year thanks to a court ruling, but the Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 1>in December prevented the Biden administration amending Title forty two,

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<v Speaker 1>while the Justice is considered a request by a group

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<v Speaker 1>of Republican led states that want to continue the expulsions,

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<v Speaker 1>which had previously been decarred unlawful by lower court. Biden's

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Justice had previously defended Title forty is necessary

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<v Speaker 1>to public health, but by the end of twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 1>they were ready to end enforcement a Title forty two politically,

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<v Speaker 1>even if they were nowhere near prepared on the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>A coalition of Republican led states, however, managed to get

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<v Speaker 1>a federal judge in Louisiana to prevent officials from ending

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<v Speaker 1>Title forty two, saying the Biden administration did not taken

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<v Speaker 1>adequate steps required to terminate the policy. Then, on November fifteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>another federal judge declared Title forty two are lawful, saying

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<v Speaker 1>the CDC had not properly explained the policy's public health

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<v Speaker 1>rational or considered its impact on asylum seekers at the

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<v Speaker 1>request of the Biden administration. The judge gave border officials

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<v Speaker 1>five weeks until December the twenty first to end Title

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<v Speaker 1>forty two nineteen. Republican led States asked several courts to

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<v Speaker 1>delay Title forty two's resision indefinitely, warning that chaos would

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<v Speaker 1>otherwise ensue. After their request was denied by lower courts,

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<v Speaker 1>the States asked a Supreme Court to intervene. On December

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seventh, the Supreme Court said it would suspend the

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<v Speaker 1>lower court order that found Title forty two to be

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<v Speaker 1>illegal until it dic I did whether the Republican led

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<v Speaker 1>States should be allowed to intervene in the case. That's

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<v Speaker 1>some Christmas spirit for you. Eventually, with the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the federal emergency over COVID nineteen, Title forty two just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of went away. Customs and Border Protection, the federal

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<v Speaker 1>agency which put up the most staunch resistance to vaccine mandates,

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<v Speaker 1>would begin processing migrants under Title eight of US immigration

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<v Speaker 1>law on the eleventh of May twenty twenty three. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>let them summarize what they see this to mean. According

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<v Speaker 1>to the USCIS website, individuals who unlawfully cross the Southwest

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<v Speaker 1>border will generally be processed under Title eight Expedited Removal

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<v Speaker 1>authorities in a matter of days. They will be barred

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<v Speaker 1>from re entry to the United States for at least

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<v Speaker 1>five years if ordered removed, and they will be presumed

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<v Speaker 1>ineligible for asylum under the proposed Circumvention of Lawful Pathways

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<v Speaker 1>regulation absent and applicable exception. What this means is, if

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<v Speaker 1>you cross into the United States not a the pordam entry,

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<v Speaker 1>you will be assumed ineligible for asylum and the process

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<v Speaker 1>to remove you from the United States will begin immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a chance to file a defensive asylum claim

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<v Speaker 1>against that, but the process can be rushed and more difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite this and having almost three years to repair they

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<v Speaker 1>were by no means. Ready, let's hear from Gustavo again. Gustavo,

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<v Speaker 1>can you explain to us a little bit about what

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<v Speaker 1>you found that by the administration has been planning for

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<v Speaker 1>the end of Title forty two.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, what I found is they haven't really been doing

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<v Speaker 8>much planning, right, I mean they talk about I think

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<v Speaker 8>with Title forty two, it's a clear example of immigration

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<v Speaker 8>policy being decided in Washington and no one really from

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<v Speaker 8>the border being involved. Or told what's going on. So,

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<v Speaker 8>like I think it was last week the HS Secretary

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<v Speaker 8>Majorca did this press release about what they're doing in

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<v Speaker 8>terms of processing centers in Guatemala and Columbia so people

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<v Speaker 8>can just go there instead of coming all the way

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<v Speaker 8>to the border, which actually there have been timelines of

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<v Speaker 8>when those will open. But they had asked all these

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<v Speaker 8>things for like big picture things, right, to stop people

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<v Speaker 8>from coming in the first place, Expanding some legal pathways,

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<v Speaker 8>like making it easier for people with families already here

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<v Speaker 8>to get sponsors, fixing some of the little things for

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<v Speaker 8>CVP one, but they don't talk about like on the

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<v Speaker 8>ground logistics right. So for example, I went to Tijuana

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<v Speaker 8>to talk to the head of the Department of Migrant

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<v Speaker 8>Affairs there who told me this, and I checked with

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<v Speaker 8>him yesterday morning, who said, still to this day, less

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<v Speaker 8>than forty eight hours before Title forty two ends, he

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<v Speaker 8>doesn't know how many migrants CBP will allow to cross

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<v Speaker 8>through the ports of entry in Sandy Erro. His guess

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<v Speaker 8>is that maybe two hundred, because that's kind of the

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<v Speaker 8>number that they floated around in December when they originally

0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:02.800
<v Speaker 8>wanted to get rid of Title forty two before their lawsuit,

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<v Speaker 8>and if it's two hundred, he basically said, Tijuana's gonna

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<v Speaker 8>be screwed because two hundred doesn't even cover the number

0:30:10.000 --> 0:30:13.680
<v Speaker 8>of new migrants coming in and deporties being sent to Tijuana.

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<v Speaker 8>So it's gonna like, we have this bottleneck of migration

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<v Speaker 8>in Tijuana and all over the border because of Title

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<v Speaker 8>forty two. For the last three years, no one's been

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<v Speaker 8>able to move. And if they just open it up

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<v Speaker 8>to two hundred people, that's not really going to address

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<v Speaker 8>any of the bottleneck.

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<v Speaker 1>Right There's like, I think, is it sixteen thousand people

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<v Speaker 1>are waiting like an asylum application right now?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah? Yeah, I hear different numbers throwing around, like teny, fifteen, sixteen,

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<v Speaker 8>and nobody really knows because there's like a network of

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<v Speaker 8>official shelters, and there's a bunch of unofficial shelters, and

0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:48.960
<v Speaker 8>there's a bunch of Russian dudes staying in hotels in airbnbs.

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<v Speaker 8>But I think, yeah, tens of thousands. I think sixteen

0:30:53.000 --> 0:30:54.600
<v Speaker 8>is an accurate number.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's introdructive here to listen to the Fox

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<v Speaker 1>News coverage of this and how much Secretary my Orcus

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<v Speaker 1>tries to pandit to them.

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<v Speaker 8>I want to be very clear, our borders are not open.

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<v Speaker 7>Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Majorcis says, when Title forty two

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<v Speaker 7>expires at midnight tonight, anyone who arrives at the southern

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<v Speaker 7>border will be presumed ineligible for asylum and face consequences.

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<v Speaker 7>But withholding facilities already overwhelmed, the administration is ratcheting up

0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:23.920
<v Speaker 7>tough rhetoric while also clearing the way for mass releases

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<v Speaker 7>into US communities with no way for authorities to track people.

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<v Speaker 7>You said at the beginning that you've prepared for this

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<v Speaker 7>moment for almost two years. So why is part of

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<v Speaker 7>that plan and honor system?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh, it is not an honor system. They are a

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<v Speaker 8>subject of our apprehension efforts.

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<v Speaker 7>But under parole release authorized by the US Border Patrol

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<v Speaker 7>Chief last night, migrants do not receive an alien registration

0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:50.120
<v Speaker 7>number for authorities to track them. They don't even get

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<v Speaker 7>a court date. Instead, migrants are asked to turn themselves

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<v Speaker 7>into Ice within sixty days to start immigration proceedings on themselves.

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<v Speaker 11>The American people are watching this.

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<v Speaker 6>They know what they see.

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<v Speaker 11>They see a wide open border.

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<v Speaker 7>Florida's Attorney General is suing the administration, arguing the parole

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<v Speaker 7>plan is identical to a policy a federal judge struck

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<v Speaker 7>down earlier this year.

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<v Speaker 11>You have confidence in the lawfulness of our actions.

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<v Speaker 7>Plans to release migrants at bus stops, gas stations, and

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<v Speaker 7>supermarkets was first detailed last year, according to a memo

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<v Speaker 7>uncovered by the Florida Legal Proceedings. Today, Texas Governor Greg

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<v Speaker 7>Abbott sent a busload of migrants to the Vice President's residents.

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<v Speaker 1>Greg Abbott's disgusting antics acide. There was a real attempt

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<v Speaker 1>by the Biden deministration to come to Republican side on

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<v Speaker 1>migration that we can see clearly here. In the hours

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<v Speaker 1>before we expected Title forty two to die. Folks like

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<v Speaker 1>me who cover the border made plans the day before.

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<v Speaker 1>On the tenth, Majorcas announced the Title forty two would

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<v Speaker 1>be enforced up until eleven fifty nine pm Eastern time,

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<v Speaker 1>and in San Diego, border patrol offices closed down the

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<v Speaker 1>port of entry at Sandy Sedra, the border town just

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<v Speaker 1>south of San Diego, for a training exercise in which

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<v Speaker 1>they lined up in front of the cars waiting to

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<v Speaker 1>cross the border with plexiglass shields and ryotgear. Meanwhile, in

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<v Speaker 1>between the two thirty foot board offenses that divided Sanisidra

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<v Speaker 1>from Tijuana, Board of Patrol began corraling migrants. Afghans, Colombians, Vietnamese, Koreans,

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<v Speaker 1>and Golan Sudanese, Tagis and Congolese people all shared little

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<v Speaker 1>more than a few tarps and cardboard boxes for shelter

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<v Speaker 1>as they waited for something to happen. Despite having months

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<v Speaker 1>to repair in years to plan, it appears at Department

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<v Speaker 1>of Homeland Security totally failed to create so much as

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<v Speaker 1>a scrap of shade or shelter, and instead chose to

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<v Speaker 1>house people detain pending processing in the open air. In

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow's episode, we'll hear from some of them. It Could

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