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Speaker 1: What's up, my brother?
Speaker 2: You're good?
Speaker 1: You're good. I'm great Now.
Speaker 3: Before we even get all deep in the conversation, I
Speaker 3: know it's gonna be one of them classic conversations.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: As for successful podcasters, I'm musa say this. This podcast
Speaker 3: thing is all right right, we should plap it up
Speaker 3: for podcasts. You know what I'm saying for successful podcasters
Speaker 3: from the South? Up in here about to have a conversation.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: What's on your mind? What's on your heart today? My brother?
Speaker 2: You know whatever? Wherever y'all want to go with it.
Speaker 2: Me and Bank and y'all just heard me speak about
Speaker 2: we need to be on media in the South. I
Speaker 2: think the rappers need to pay us a little bit
Speaker 2: more attention.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: Up north it's kind of biting into a lot of
Speaker 2: the Southern artists when they drop an album, they tend
Speaker 2: to run up North to promote it before coming to
Speaker 2: Big Facts, before coming to It's up the podcast. And
Speaker 2: I just don't think their favor will be returned if
Speaker 2: the shoe was on the other foot. So I celebrate
Speaker 2: us being in.
Speaker 3: The South, and I salute I think we should both
Speaker 3: salute a little baby because he came to Big Facts
Speaker 3: a couple of times.
Speaker 1: And yes, the.
Speaker 3: First you know what I'm saying, first and thousand percent agree.
Speaker 3: It's not that we got to love everybody, but it's
Speaker 3: just that, hey, you should go home.
Speaker 1: Verse.
Speaker 2: It's prioritizing, prioritizing your avenues because in the event that
Speaker 2: this thing burns down, we will be the only one
Speaker 2: speaking on your behalf. Right, those guys will pay more
Speaker 2: attention to and we could get into it. For me.
Speaker 2: You know, I celebrate j I celebrate did I celebrate fifty,
Speaker 2: but also celebrate bird man.
Speaker 4: I celebrate pe, I celebrate prints, I celebrate you did.
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying, I think those conversations have to merge,
Speaker 2: and we got to be at the head of that.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 3: I like that, Like what was you doing for the
Speaker 3: media and the podcasting and stuff. I got a history
Speaker 3: and a few different things. Okay, well, what can you
Speaker 3: speak about, you know, whatever you want to speak.
Speaker 2: I've readen music, successful music. I've been involved with a
Speaker 2: few things. My hands is in real estate back home,
Speaker 2: I have transitional homes. Well, when people get out of
Speaker 2: jail or rehab or something like that and they need
Speaker 2: somewhere to gold court order where the state provides them.
Speaker 4: Housing, and two of those in my city.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 2: I got a tour bus, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I got a couple of box trucks. So I got
Speaker 2: a few things going on in my town. But I've
Speaker 2: just been a hustle all my life, you know, and
Speaker 2: that's just what it being for me.
Speaker 3: What made you decide to get behind the mic and
Speaker 3: just chop it with people and talk and know, just
Speaker 3: chop it by yourself and talk about cultural topics.
Speaker 1: What was was that moment?
Speaker 2: I think people like us, brou have an obligation to
Speaker 2: over communicate, you know, those of us that have found
Speaker 2: the light switch in the dark room, to be able
Speaker 2: to provide our families with something and change our lives
Speaker 2: for the better. I think we have an obligation to
Speaker 2: kind of give march in orders, you know. And so
Speaker 2: when I first started, that was my thinking, Like I
Speaker 2: would hear a lot of talking in the game and say, Yo,
Speaker 2: they misrepresenting what I'm seeing.
Speaker 4: I don't see what they see.
Speaker 2: What is that? Why they position in that like that?
Speaker 2: That's before I know about the business side of this.
Speaker 2: But I thought everybody was speaking from their hearts and
Speaker 2: they truly believed some of the things that they were saying.
Speaker 2: And I was confused. And because I have to leave
Speaker 2: this world to my little boys, I want to put
Speaker 2: some game next to some of these lame shit you
Speaker 2: see going on, you know. And that was my thing,
Speaker 2: That's what.
Speaker 3: So did anybody inspire that, Like, was you watching some
Speaker 3: other podcast or something else that inspired that, or you.
Speaker 4: Just well, I watched the entire game. I watch everything
Speaker 4: White Comedians, the True Crime.
Speaker 2: That, yeah, you did, because I need to know the market,
Speaker 2: he said Joe Rogan basically, and no, no, no, I
Speaker 2: just wrote I'm talking about I know the field, bro O,
Speaker 2: Like I know the entire field.
Speaker 4: This is not an accident. I'm here without a co host.
Speaker 1: So you like the ball player in the league and
Speaker 1: all the players.
Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on, what they making, what
Speaker 2: they lying about, what it's worth, even if they ain't
Speaker 2: getting what it's worth. I'm familiar with the analytics of
Speaker 2: this thing. Okay, you know, so that's what it is, bro. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but a lot of people, I want to be cleared.
Speaker 2: A lot of people inspired it. Like you say, I
Speaker 2: look at Charlemagne, of course, you know, he shout out
Speaker 2: to Charlemagne did a lot for me. But I even
Speaker 2: watched Joe Budden, I've watched Joe Rogan. I've watched anybody
Speaker 2: that's moving around and making money with this thing. You
Speaker 2: made some money with this thing here. I know something
Speaker 2: about whatever you was doing.
Speaker 4: That was my thing. I came in for the money.
Speaker 4: I ain't come to play.
Speaker 1: What what what? So?
Speaker 3: So what's your are there are there podcast with media
Speaker 3: outlests that respectfully you say, I could just do it out.
Speaker 1: I don't really stand for what the It's a bunch
Speaker 1: of old yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a bunch of those I think a lot
Speaker 2: of those people are behind some of the narratives we see.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm yeah, and for me, I'm loud about
Speaker 2: whatever because I don't need no relationship with nobody. I
Speaker 2: came in like that. So I don't mind saying people names,
Speaker 2: you know, I don't mind addressing folks or handling what
Speaker 2: come with that. But yeah, it's a lot of people
Speaker 2: I can do without, you know. I know I've been
Speaker 2: speaking about media so much, but I feel like I
Speaker 2: be sometimes confused in the markets. And I look at
Speaker 2: American and I say, the best way to get through
Speaker 2: the people is to categorize things. So I got to
Speaker 2: figure out a way to categorize what it is these
Speaker 2: suckers doing so I can put a label on it.
Speaker 2: What's the most sucker shit?
Speaker 1: You know? Seen, like.
Speaker 4: Just getting in the way these nigga be in a way, bro,
Speaker 4: you know other money.
Speaker 2: See, I think they just the super fan has been
Speaker 2: birthed and these niggas got microphones. So the super fan
Speaker 2: nigga is critical things that's affecting the business in a
Speaker 2: way that I know he cognize it all. But the
Speaker 2: fans think he's still speaking from like a genuine place.
Speaker 4: But some of these dudes are trying to affect these
Speaker 4: guys business.
Speaker 2: Bro, I can't respect that. When a nigga undercut your money,
Speaker 2: I can't respect. I can't respect it.
Speaker 5: Are you like you. Okay, So.
Speaker 6: Without I don't want I don't really like I said,
Speaker 6: I want to call like names or whatever. But in
Speaker 6: the in the in the public recently, there's been a
Speaker 6: rapper who has been accused of some ship, but there was.
Speaker 5: An underlying narrative that.
Speaker 6: Was being pushed at the same time with these accusations
Speaker 6: and what.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to raise my head. We don't have
Speaker 1: to because I'll involved today.
Speaker 2: I just bro we gotta give it up in the
Speaker 2: South like this, Okay, I'm talking.
Speaker 5: I'm talking about that. All the ship is going on
Speaker 5: with me, right Okay?
Speaker 6: You know how like they try to come out like
Speaker 6: with the gay shit or whatever when he was trying
Speaker 6: to drop his album and you know this and that,
Speaker 6: but he was already like also going through like some
Speaker 6: other ship. So like he said, he said it himself,
Speaker 6: like he brought it to the attention that they're trying
Speaker 6: to push this narrative of him him possibly behind closed doors,
Speaker 6: having done some ship or whatever to affect what he
Speaker 6: has going on, like Loan said, with his business. And
Speaker 6: I'm with Loan on that that's personally like some bullshit
Speaker 6: and some like some pussy ship because at the end
Speaker 6: of the day.
Speaker 5: If you don't like a nigga, don't like the nigga.
Speaker 6: If you have a problem with something that he's done,
Speaker 6: have a problem with what this nigga has done, but
Speaker 6: don't try to stand behind closed doors and do some
Speaker 6: ship that's gonna affect his character and knowing that his
Speaker 6: character is what his business stands on.
Speaker 2: That's some bullshit.
Speaker 1: Who are the people? I guess that's what something I'm
Speaker 1: just thinking about. The comments. The comments are like, well,
Speaker 1: who is the people pushing this agenda? Like who are they?
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's not.
Speaker 6: They are the people that are trying to prevent him
Speaker 6: from releasing music.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, somebody, then somebody have to create and starting if.
Speaker 6: About them like not wanting him to release music, and
Speaker 6: he got like some other ship going on.
Speaker 5: But it's the it's some very.
Speaker 6: Powerful people behind the reason why he hasn't been able
Speaker 6: to release.
Speaker 7: That PR team to destroy Nigga.
Speaker 5: It's not even a PR team. It's bigger than PR teams.
Speaker 6: It's it's like real machines behind the ship that are
Speaker 6: just like okay, you know how.
Speaker 5: Like niggas niggas niggas amp up.
Speaker 6: Their Spotify numbers with the box and the machines and
Speaker 6: the people in the place and this and that, blah
Speaker 6: blah blah. It's the same ship used that's used to
Speaker 6: ramp up these niggas numbers, that's ramped up to bring
Speaker 6: a nigga down and destroy a nigga too at the
Speaker 6: same time.
Speaker 8: So basically what you're saying, they put that gay ship
Speaker 8: on me to and it could just be a hater.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 8: Some people.
Speaker 7: No, she's saying like, this is what I'm gathering. You
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: I'm thinking Jay saying like it could be a motherfucker
Speaker 8: somewhere that hate me.
Speaker 7: Right, Yes, all they had to do was started on.
Speaker 8: The internet so cold they go find ship, then the
Speaker 8: bag up a lot.
Speaker 2: It's how fucked up this shit is.
Speaker 5: Its asie.
Speaker 7: The Internet know how to paint a picture of anything.
Speaker 8: That's why you can't get caught out there doing no
Speaker 8: questionable shit. But you know what I'm saying, you can't
Speaker 8: get caught out there doing no questionable ship because you
Speaker 8: only add up to what the Internet know of you.
Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying. So if a niggas just say,
Speaker 8: if the niggas say they draw a narrative of say,
Speaker 8: thug Thug is this gainst this gangst. But that's all
Speaker 8: you've been saying to your music, that's all you've been doing.
Speaker 8: You got niggas around. So we go back on the
Speaker 8: Internet to the to the memory, not the memory of
Speaker 8: I see thug got I know these nigga is a
Speaker 8: good nigga. This nigga's a kid really at heart. I
Speaker 8: know this like this is a good nigga all the
Speaker 8: way around. But if I look at the Internet and
Speaker 8: look at the Internet as my memory, but that's what
Speaker 8: we do. We look at the Internet is our memory,
Speaker 8: like I remember when he did instead of judging the
Speaker 8: person when you met that person, let.
Speaker 5: Me let me off.
Speaker 6: But speaking on meek situations specifically, my thing is is like, Okay,
Speaker 6: what else could have been said about him that would that.
Speaker 5: Would other than some gay ship that would.
Speaker 8: Fucking because he already got out yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 6: And then like you said, with the memory, with the
Speaker 6: Internet and the memory ship, it ain't even like you said,
Speaker 6: a nigga can't be out here doing questionable ship. But
Speaker 6: it ain't even gotta be something questionable. He's in a
Speaker 6: picture with a nigga that fucking had his own allegations
Speaker 6: or whatever's going on with that ship, and just that
Speaker 6: one picture.
Speaker 7: That would make it questionable to the Internet. I ain't
Speaker 7: saying me.
Speaker 4: I'm not questioning with me.
Speaker 8: I met this nigga plenty of numerous times, we talked
Speaker 8: each other.
Speaker 7: The DMS and ship fuck with me. What I'm saying is.
Speaker 8: Is still once It's just like it's just like a rico.
Speaker 8: Once your ad get caught up in this ship, you
Speaker 8: caught up in it. The ship puff going through anything
Speaker 8: that has been around that.
Speaker 2: But here here's his what's happening too though, Right, So
Speaker 2: there's a lot that we just unpacked when we deal
Speaker 2: with thug. I want to deal with that separate from
Speaker 2: the meek meal thing. It's totally because and the reason
Speaker 2: I want to do that is because I believe the
Speaker 2: judicial system has a responsibility to view things totally. Yeah, right,
Speaker 2: I can't blame right, I can't blame Twitter for picking
Speaker 2: things and pain the narrative before the judicial system to
Speaker 2: come and grab a guy and act like they don't
Speaker 2: see all the giving back, or act like they don't
Speaker 2: see some of the other things that represent the eyes,
Speaker 2: like they don't.
Speaker 6: See all the corrupt ship that the other that the
Speaker 6: fucking other side of this same judicial system has done.
Speaker 5: It's ludicrous, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 2: So so that's one. But for the hater thing, I
Speaker 2: truly believe there's a couple of things happening.
Speaker 4: There's a there's a.
Speaker 2: Site called Reddit, right, Yeah, And what I've noticed, because
Speaker 2: again I studied the game, So what I've noticed is
Speaker 2: on Reddit there's a lot of narratives and what what
Speaker 2: what you see happening is these people with these bigger
Speaker 2: platforms are going on there and grabbing these narratives and
Speaker 2: bringing them out.
Speaker 4: Then why is that important?
Speaker 2: Because it comes with a built in audience, It comes
Speaker 2: with your speaking for these people who are living in
Speaker 2: this I'm gonna call this the dead sea, right, all.
Speaker 4: This shit, this this ship they doing is messing shit.
Speaker 4: This is the dead Sea.
Speaker 2: Don't nothing out of here really serve nobody? You see
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, It's just bullshit. So they coming in,
Speaker 2: they speaking for these Reddit pages, and then it's kitching
Speaker 2: legs quickly because that's what they do. They live on
Speaker 2: the Internet. And yeah, that's what we're saying on Reddit. Yeah,
Speaker 2: repost that. That's why these memes are rented is just
Speaker 2: like Wikipedia, right, So it ain't it ain't that to
Speaker 2: check this it's out. It ain't that these dudes are
Speaker 2: ahead of the narratives, right, they're amplifying the narratives and
Speaker 2: then they're catching.
Speaker 4: Up with the narratives.
Speaker 2: These guys, these dudes are not crafty and putting this
Speaker 2: stuff up like some of the names out here. Meet
Speaker 2: me up that they that they twist his name too, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's Twitter, that's ready, And that.
Speaker 5: Ship is offensive that they're playing with his name.
Speaker 6: That nigga has been through and built any fucking black
Speaker 6: and white, Like, if you don't have proof of some ship,
Speaker 6: you can't.
Speaker 1: You can't.
Speaker 5: You shouldn't.
Speaker 6: Man, that ship is crazy, Like you shouldn't be able
Speaker 6: to fucking even have a voice without proof.
Speaker 2: And you have a responsibility when you have a platform. Yes, man, right,
Speaker 2: should make a nigga crash, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: That's the should make a nigga want to like, Oh
Speaker 8: you believe.
Speaker 4: That, but this is how you beat it and listen.
Speaker 2: For us, I believe, especially for us in the South Gota,
Speaker 2: we gotta become more powerful because what I truly believe
Speaker 2: has to happen. We cannot beat these guys. Okay, let
Speaker 2: me frame this, you street rapper guys whose business is
Speaker 2: being affected.
Speaker 4: By the revenge of the nerves.
Speaker 2: Right, what happens is when they come out, they got
Speaker 2: twenty other YouTube dudes that that cover this shit. They
Speaker 2: got twenty mean pages, twenty Twitter pages. The street niggas
Speaker 2: just sitting over here like and the narratives run off.
Speaker 2: But why would I come out speaking on niggas behalf
Speaker 2: When y'all niggas go do press, you don't come holler
Speaker 2: let us right, So why would I come put my
Speaker 2: brand and platform in front of some of these niggas
Speaker 2: have got powerful people that associate with them, and all
Speaker 2: of these different narratives they gonna soon I jump out
Speaker 2: and say, yo, man, y'all nigga d they gonna take
Speaker 2: me and you ain't even gave me no love in
Speaker 2: my business and I'm definding balance out. So you gotta help.
Speaker 4: We gotta help each other.
Speaker 2: These artists from the South sit around and like the Internet,
Speaker 2: the Internet, the Internet. Yeah, it's niggas like us that.
Speaker 4: Got powerful platform.
Speaker 2: But why would I put my business out when you
Speaker 2: niggas is running around and that's who you're giving your
Speaker 2: exclusives to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking fast, I want to talk to a.
Speaker 2: Lot of and know what I'm saying, but it's being
Speaker 2: his bank shit.
Speaker 8: But the thing about it, I feel like this, once
Speaker 8: you become the start of your brand, it don't even
Speaker 8: matter it.
Speaker 2: Don't you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: Fuck fucking fuck talking to you right, most niggas gonna
Speaker 7: come on line. I like getting this.
Speaker 8: Ship from the source of the people that's telling the
Speaker 8: truth and being their authentic self. A nigga with a
Speaker 8: nigga that's been media trained, and I don't want to.
Speaker 1: Talk to you.
Speaker 4: Don't see them niggas on my ship. I don't even
Speaker 4: know how this nigga get in touch with niggas.
Speaker 2: You can go look at the past episode.
Speaker 7: They say this in the comings, and you know I
Speaker 7: pick up on comings.
Speaker 8: You know are used to didn't recome in because he
Speaker 8: used to piss me out, But now reed come in
Speaker 8: and better myself off the hate my niggas. Be like, Bro,
Speaker 8: you can tell the bank face he ain't fucking with
Speaker 8: a guest. And I go back and look at some shit.
Speaker 8: I know I wouldn't fuck it be.
Speaker 2: Like I was fucking I can't blame you. I can't
Speaker 2: blame me for that. You ain't I want to do
Speaker 2: that shit. But I'm saying, at some point you gotta
Speaker 2: balance that which you're creating a business and they see
Speaker 2: is a business and you is bank and you need
Speaker 2: to throw your weight around. And Jade gotta throw a
Speaker 2: weight around and scream, gotta throw your weight around, right
Speaker 2: because I'm throwing mine around. You don't see me playing nowhere.
Speaker 2: You don't see me hanging nowhere. You don't see me
Speaker 2: doing nothing, and you see me by myself. Right, this
Speaker 2: ain't one of them games. It's being played. You see
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So I'm telling y'all got that because
Speaker 2: this is the South. All these rap niggas come from
Speaker 2: the South. Right, I'm confused. And then we not do it,
Speaker 2: but we bosses. Nigga makes six figures out audio, out
Speaker 2: of video, touching anything. So it's important for niggas to
Speaker 2: know that you want me to risk my business and
Speaker 2: do what for? What?
Speaker 4: Make it make sense?
Speaker 3: Speaking, Yeah, make it make sense, And I love everybodyated, but.
Speaker 2: But but but what happens is we gotta be intentional
Speaker 2: with putting people in position that got YouTube pages, mean pages.
Speaker 2: Everybody can't be in front these cameras. You dig what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Some of the people we pull in. How
Speaker 2: many followers you got? I want to pay you every month?
Speaker 2: Now you pulled our squad. Some go down the same way.
Speaker 2: Academics in them shoot out and no jump or post
Speaker 2: it and say cheez post and she goes bamo.
Speaker 4: Twenty different blaws.
Speaker 2: Got fam This ain'ta winston is though. They don't build
Speaker 2: a little business with this, They don't built a little
Speaker 2: bed and with this, this ain't Bacca. That's why them narratives.
Speaker 2: And for me, I be feeling bad but I know
Speaker 2: it's a bid and I being means with the top
Speaker 2: dollars telling me, Yo, your image is so wrong?
Speaker 4: Do that for what?
Speaker 3: Mm hm hm hmm speaking facts up there podcast the
Speaker 3: Big facts today. What's your thoughts on? Just just throwing
Speaker 3: it out, like, so, what's your thoughts on? Like no jumper, academics.
Speaker 2: I just said, doctor Umar, we was going begg and
Speaker 2: forth and it literally made people start grabbing Umar again.
Speaker 2: And Yo, let's go back and forth with it because
Speaker 2: people didn't see My thing is clarify that ship. You
Speaker 2: talking anybody because I'm a listening ill. You ain't talking
Speaker 2: to the wall, so I'm paying attention, So clarify this shit.
Speaker 2: A lot of niggas don't got a law A long
Speaker 2: way just saying.
Speaker 8: Ship yah, yeah, when you're right, you're right.
Speaker 2: Anything else about what I got? Big?
Speaker 7: So?
Speaker 2: What what?
Speaker 7: What the conversations was about? Uh?
Speaker 2: We talked about Dion. Uh yeah, his approach to Dion
Speaker 2: Sanders I think was a little overzealous.
Speaker 7: What was it approach?
Speaker 2: He basically said Dion sold out for taking the opportunity
Speaker 2: to colde. Oh yeah. My position was, Yo, at some point,
Speaker 2: you you have your interest, is yourself self sustained?
Speaker 4: Right, I'll bring you a play after weed. I ain't saying.
Speaker 4: I ain't saying you ain't gonna eat it ain't gonna
Speaker 4: be before my people though.
Speaker 7: Sure, yeah, you know.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying. If you can't respect that, you got
Speaker 2: to get away from it.
Speaker 4: Period.
Speaker 3: So y'all was able to agree on things and agree
Speaker 3: to disagree with the most important.
Speaker 2: Thing because when you when you had these conversations, they
Speaker 2: don't get disrespectful when you understand how to navigate these conversations.
Speaker 2: So we had a great conversation about that about bbls,
Speaker 2: like about about a.
Speaker 4: Whole bunch of shit.
Speaker 2: Bro Like, it was dope, man, it's old out Like
Speaker 2: five hundred people was there, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: big stage, it was dope. Man. I put it on
Speaker 2: by myself. So that's my thing is some of these
Speaker 2: guys that had these strong point of views. When we
Speaker 2: do it's up with that podcast live, I want you
Speaker 2: to clarify some of that shit. And I know how
Speaker 2: to dance. So it's interesting every time who's the nigga?
Speaker 2: You feel like, is it putting out the wrong message?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: That nigga erasist shit. I don't know if anyone has
Speaker 2: a wrong message one hundred percent, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: But a lot of these niggas approaches is wrong, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. And I think your approach wrong
Speaker 2: in your opinion or wrong moraland mortland like who academics.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 2: I just had a conversation with No Jumper yesterday, you know,
Speaker 2: because yeah, you know, because they lose with they words
Speaker 2: on this internet. Sometimes I gotta adjust, you know, I
Speaker 2: was talking to you about their last time while I
Speaker 2: got to say they just talking long, they just talking.
Speaker 2: But I'm saying this business loan. They fucking the business up.
Speaker 2: I don't want these niggas to act like they don't
Speaker 2: understand his business when they're being paid to post things
Speaker 2: that affect the business. Yeah, they can't trick me to
Speaker 2: believe that you didn't like Oh why, it's just my opinion.
Speaker 2: On that same platform, you get paid to spread narratives
Speaker 2: and get paid to help with buzzes and certain things
Speaker 2: from labels.
Speaker 4: I don't understand how it's even confusing.
Speaker 7: My only thing is I feel like everybody got their
Speaker 7: own perspective. I'm gonna keep bringing that back.
Speaker 8: So at the end of the day, the way they're
Speaker 8: putting out their perspective and getting paid, I respect it
Speaker 8: to a certain degree because I.
Speaker 7: Wasn't raised how they were raised. I don't have the
Speaker 7: same war as in them.
Speaker 8: They could look at things that I say and do
Speaker 8: as morally wrong because we don't have the same wars.
Speaker 7: And once I learned that, brother, that shit changed me.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna keep saying that everybody don't have the morals,
Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying, not to say that they're
Speaker 8: morals are less to minds and minds of less than there.
Speaker 2: That's just how they are.
Speaker 6: Yeah, But I just I feel just to piggyback off
Speaker 6: of what you said. And I'm totally with that and
Speaker 6: I totally agree, but I just feel like I don't
Speaker 6: know if I could be saying the same shit, doing
Speaker 6: the same or not. He can stop me if I'm wrong,
Speaker 6: But I just feel like, like you said, when you're
Speaker 6: dealing with people whose platforms purpose is to basically, for
Speaker 6: lack of a better way to put it, make or
Speaker 6: break a nigga, and you're using your platform primarily to
Speaker 6: break a nigga to try to further your platform, I
Speaker 6: feel like that's wrong, wrong to you.
Speaker 7: If I came for the money, I don't feed my feeder.
Speaker 1: That's that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: I came for the money. This was this is a
Speaker 7: missing void.
Speaker 8: I think if I don't do it, somebody else gonna
Speaker 8: do a Channel five, Channel two channel never gonna do it.
Speaker 7: That's aw niggas looking at.
Speaker 8: It like D four doing the same shit, my bad
Speaker 8: stream folks doing the same shit, pushing out the same shit.
Speaker 8: So we mad at No, I'm not saying I'm widded
Speaker 8: or against it, you know what I'm saying, we mad
Speaker 8: at a nigga for doing the same ship that everybody
Speaker 8: will do.
Speaker 1: The paper.
Speaker 5: It's all about to spind like.
Speaker 6: You can put out information on your platform responsibility and
Speaker 6: report the news. You can report the current events just
Speaker 6: like just like it. Fucking if goddamn Oprah got beat up, Okay, cool,
Speaker 6: if Oprah got beat up and punched out. Oprah got
Speaker 6: beat up and punched out, but adding a whole bunch
Speaker 6: of extra ship like Oprah got beat up and punched out.
Speaker 6: Now she's getting ready to go broken. And you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying this and that all this other bullshit.
Speaker 2: To me, how to create my narrative, make this to
Speaker 2: get paid.
Speaker 7: You can't tell me what to do because this is marketing.
Speaker 8: At the end of the day, it's all Internet to
Speaker 8: some people. Let me say this, but to some people,
Speaker 8: the Internet is fake and they's just only here for
Speaker 8: the money.
Speaker 1: It's on you if you're taking this ship, and it
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying to.
Speaker 8: Some of the niggas feel to who y'all your name
Speaker 8: Adam and and.
Speaker 1: Who is fake?
Speaker 8: I don't give fuck how y'all feel about me. I'm
Speaker 8: here to get the money on your fuck. Who would
Speaker 8: effect somethings feel like.
Speaker 4: And here's the thing. I can respect that.
Speaker 2: And that's why when I when I look at the
Speaker 2: bus this, I'm saying, either of these either these rap
Speaker 2: guys or because I come from you got to be
Speaker 2: Oh my god, the level of thinking you gotta have
Speaker 2: to survive. And when I see that they letting this
Speaker 2: kind of shit happen, I'm saying, all right, put it
Speaker 2: in perspective. Let's say academics and meet Meal, let's deal
Speaker 2: with this with numbers attached to it so people can
Speaker 2: really get a perspective as to what this looks like.
Speaker 2: Academics is someone that is monetized on every single platform
Speaker 2: his name is meaning if don't nobody send him a dollar,
Speaker 2: those platforms pay him for what he posts. An attraction
Speaker 2: attached to whatever he posts. Right, So let's say him
Speaker 2: and meet Meal has a thing. He him and meet
Speaker 2: Meal goes at it. He tweets mit Meal, say he
Speaker 2: makes five thousand dollars off a couple tweets just from Twitter,
Speaker 2: just from that day him and meet Meal back forth.
Speaker 4: That's five grand. Set that to the side.
Speaker 2: He goes on YouTube and goals live for five or
Speaker 2: six hours and talk about meet meal the entire time.
Speaker 2: Let's give him a low number and say make seven thousand,
Speaker 2: seventy five hundred for that for that time. That's just
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. That's a load number, right,
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna put you on some game though. But
Speaker 2: here here's what's important. So now listen, after that six hours,
Speaker 2: guess what he does then? Does he repurposed that six
Speaker 2: hours worth content to now generate another four or five
Speaker 2: million views? That's another forty grand, fifty grand, that's one
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars a day going against a nigga who
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna get an interview with anyway. Thank you.
Speaker 2: You can't tell you motherfucking move. It's so. So here's
Speaker 2: the issue though, it's just us. We gotta stop going
Speaker 2: for that move, going and digging and.
Speaker 8: All right, like you said, you say, him and me
Speaker 8: met or something whatever happened with them, All right, cool.
Speaker 8: We gotta stop giving that type of power to people.
Speaker 2: You can't take it from them. But he got an
Speaker 2: audience agent. Nah, This is what these guys gotta do.
Speaker 2: They gotta quit being selfish and spend some money on
Speaker 2: building niggas like us up, build big facts up.
Speaker 4: You gotta build ship up.
Speaker 2: That's gonna have the narrative that represents the other side
Speaker 2: just as loud as the narrative on that side, because
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna spend all my money building this ship
Speaker 2: up to fight for niggas yah exactly.
Speaker 6: And I just have one thing to say, like about
Speaker 6: what Black was saying about.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I get what he's saying.
Speaker 7: People.
Speaker 5: It's people out there.
Speaker 6: That don't think like us, that don't give a fuck,
Speaker 6: and that are here on the internet and on social
Speaker 6: media and all that shit strictly for the money. But
Speaker 6: the only my only thing is Okay. If that's the
Speaker 6: case and that's that's how it is, then that's cool.
Speaker 6: That's what you want to do. But a lot of
Speaker 6: these niggas who portray the image of I'm here, I
Speaker 6: don't give a fuck, I'm just gonna keep reporting shit
Speaker 6: whatever whatever. When the ship comes back on them or
Speaker 6: when they have to answer for the bullshit that they're
Speaker 6: putting out. Instead of them just keeping putting out shit
Speaker 6: or whatever, whatever, they turn personal and getting their feelings,
Speaker 6: which means that they actually do give a fuck about
Speaker 6: what's going on, and they actually do give a fuck
Speaker 6: about the ship that they're going back and forth with
Speaker 6: and putting out, and that's contradicting their whole entire platform
Speaker 6: at the end of the day.
Speaker 2: And the problem, the bigger problem, is that there's no
Speaker 2: representation on the other side.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but nah, because at the end of the day,
Speaker 8: you're gonna get in your feelings when it's done to you.
Speaker 8: I'm just trying to like what I've learned to do, bro,
Speaker 8: and it's gonna sound like some crazy shit I've learned to.
Speaker 5: Put But if it's if you get in your feelings
Speaker 5: when it's done and you don't do that shit to other.
Speaker 8: Can I say this, I've learned to put myself in
Speaker 8: other shoes.
Speaker 1: That is a That is a gift if you.
Speaker 8: Can put yourself in certain people's shoes and mindstate you
Speaker 8: got this ship master like, because I can't expect for
Speaker 8: you to be solid because I'm solid. I gotta look
Speaker 8: at this ship like a fairy tale. What would a
Speaker 8: sucker do in this moment? Now you gotta say what
Speaker 8: would a broken nigga do?
Speaker 2: Because we gonna stand on principle and say, boy, I
Speaker 2: ain't gonna get into that. But if i'm if I'm
Speaker 2: a young creator coming up and saying, Yo, it's probably
Speaker 2: ain't no chance that I'm gonna get a meet meal
Speaker 2: interview or or or the baby interview.
Speaker 4: But boy, I'm a super fan of them niggas, so
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 2: Every little that's these niggas they going are they super
Speaker 2: fans of these So this is why they sitting back saying, man,
Speaker 2: I maybe can't. Yeah, but here's the thing. The rappers
Speaker 2: can't spread theyself then, and they didn't touch everybody that
Speaker 2: got love for them.
Speaker 4: The job ain't to do that.
Speaker 2: The job is to feed the people that's in position
Speaker 2: that represents the narrative. It's a simple one too where
Speaker 2: I'm from. If a girl disrespect me, I sent.
Speaker 1: A girl, I see what you saying?
Speaker 2: You did? Oh they went live on Wood the wool today.
Speaker 2: Well guess what we going live tomorrow to respond to
Speaker 2: that and cut some of that off, right, You see
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Oh they went live. Oh we went
Speaker 2: live again. But it's it's not good niggas, and we
Speaker 2: grown me and it's worth money.
Speaker 4: Just it ain't gonna happen. Just you dig.
Speaker 2: You got to be intentional with this. It's affecting money
Speaker 2: at this point right, you to ignore Listen, the business
Speaker 2: requires that you respect narratives.
Speaker 4: I don't care if you're real nigga or not any business.
Speaker 2: This one in particular you rappers because you live off.
Speaker 4: Image, so anything affected your image.
Speaker 1: You got to I think.
Speaker 3: I think, I think to what I'll be saying all
Speaker 3: the time is like a lot of people still look
Speaker 3: at the culture, like even street music, the culture of it.
Speaker 3: But it's become a sport. So yeah, the same thing
Speaker 3: as sports. Right, And then Steven A. Smith say, I
Speaker 3: can say whatever I want about how you play. This
Speaker 3: is my job.
Speaker 2: But then when you got Ryan Clark come on after
Speaker 2: him and say Steven A. Smith didn't know what he
Speaker 2: was talking about. No, no, no, And the reason why this
Speaker 2: football players. Right, but you got to dance with the
Speaker 2: people that brought you to the party. And these dudes
Speaker 2: ain't doing nothing for the South or for the people
Speaker 2: that can speak on their behalf. You did. So that's
Speaker 2: the problem. It ain't gonna stop. One hundred, it's not
Speaker 2: gonna stop. These guys got audiences redded Twitter is not
Speaker 2: gonna stop.
Speaker 4: Right, You got to you gotta build some all around it, period.
Speaker 8: What you think the biggest the biggest disconnect is from
Speaker 8: like in his music, I mean in his podcast music industry.
Speaker 4: What do you think the biggest disconnect is, I think
Speaker 4: disregard narratives.
Speaker 2: I think that dudes think because they really solid in
Speaker 2: real life, that they can disregard narratives. You know, the soul,
Speaker 2: gotta respect the weather, you know, it's certain things that
Speaker 2: have to work in concert. And I think that the
Speaker 2: disconnect is just not like I just said, you gotta
Speaker 2: you just you gotta now have a bulletproof call, because
Speaker 2: dudes are shooting at you. They making one hundred thousand
Speaker 2: dollars a day, you know, sending it five thousand dollars
Speaker 2: a day attached to shooting at you. All they and
Speaker 2: sitting in the house getting fatter and fatter and never
Speaker 2: coming out. You dig I'm making sixty grand a day.
Speaker 2: I ain't had nothing to talk about. Oh sixty the day,
Speaker 2: sixty of them all, sixty the next day. And then
Speaker 2: the disrespectful part is these niggas labels are still going spend.
Speaker 4: With these guys. Yeah, like it's layer bro.
Speaker 2: It's business though, so at some point you gotta respect that, yo,
Speaker 2: they got to spend with something. This is what the audience.
Speaker 3: Is when they say freedom and speech, right, But I
Speaker 3: guess the messed up thing is freedom and speech is
Speaker 3: also the freedom to tell the truth or tell a lie.
Speaker 1: Ain't that what it is? In America?
Speaker 3: You can say whatever, say what's yeah, whether it's the
Speaker 3: truth or a lot, that's freedom of speech.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 3: But when you sometimes it seems like you get persecuted
Speaker 3: more for telling the truth, which is completely messed up.
Speaker 1: But that's just kind of what it is. Freedom of speech.
Speaker 2: Yeah and yeah, I can't get around that, bro. That's
Speaker 2: what it is. Like I said, it's not gonna stop.
Speaker 2: You got to look at what's going on across the
Speaker 2: island politics. You got Trump at the same time saying
Speaker 2: things like yo, I've been indicted several times. The black
Speaker 2: folks love me so long.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you why you think it is Like
Speaker 3: some of the artists may be like I guess the
Speaker 3: word is cautious or fearful coming to platforms like a
Speaker 3: it's up there, big facts or whatever the case may be.
Speaker 1: Why do you think that is?
Speaker 2: What I think it is is it's a little lightweight
Speaker 2: clout chasing by these guys. So what I say, is
Speaker 2: that chasing audience, and it just tells me they don't
Speaker 2: understand the business. Like I was just speaking to you
Speaker 2: about the ability to repurpose these podcast interviews. So I'm
Speaker 2: still seeing big facts and bird men going crazy still
Speaker 2: today on TikTok, getting millions of hits on Twitter getting
Speaker 2: me right. It's certain things that's gonna stand out from
Speaker 2: an interview perspective that you won't get in a stream.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing. They got somebody in a suit
Speaker 2: or somebody in a position that's convincing them to go
Speaker 2: there right when they should be intentional with marketing their
Speaker 2: own shit instead of being told what a goal. Right.
Speaker 2: So you were just like we were just saying, they're
Speaker 2: fearful of offending the people that cut their checks.
Speaker 1: A lot of artists are fearful of their labels.
Speaker 2: I wonder why that is, though.
Speaker 3: You got to think about how you got there, and
Speaker 3: especially if they caused you to do business with you,
Speaker 3: that mean you got value. So you got to stay
Speaker 3: on the fact that you got that value and not
Speaker 3: moving fear in my opinion.
Speaker 6: In my opinion, I feel like niggas are scared of
Speaker 6: labels because they don't understand their power and they feel
Speaker 6: like the labels have the power to turn their lights
Speaker 6: on and off.
Speaker 4: Right, It could be true in some cases too.
Speaker 2: I think the label again has the plug into the infrastructure.
Speaker 2: Like you were saying, the PR team thing, that's a
Speaker 2: real propaganda for as long as American history has been documented,
Speaker 2: has been powerful. You see what I'm saying. These PR
Speaker 2: teams that work on behalf of some of these labels.
Speaker 2: These rap niggas get dropped off the label and don't
Speaker 2: even know how to get their message out no more.
Speaker 2: But why you're with the label. That's why you always
Speaker 2: hit me salute baby, because in the midst of being
Speaker 2: one of the biggest people in the world, he took
Speaker 2: time to build me up to come over and fuck
Speaker 2: with y'all and do whatever he did with the people
Speaker 2: he cared about it and see fit like yo, that's
Speaker 2: one of the one I appreciate that because so many
Speaker 2: of these guys sit on their hands and they can
Speaker 2: be told to go sit with a white streamer who well,
Speaker 2: we don't even know if the numbers translate right again,
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand people in a stream clicks something, it
Speaker 2: rises in real time. These are real, live numbers. We're
Speaker 2: dealing with On YouTube, you can literally sit there and
Speaker 2: see the views go up. You could see someone climb
Speaker 2: the charts. I just saw a rep dude post WE
Speaker 2: number seven, then laid, I don't post WE number three.
Speaker 4: These these things move in real time.
Speaker 2: So if you have one hundred thousand people in here,
Speaker 2: why can't they move any number on any platform? But
Speaker 2: they could be convinced to go sit there, and so again,
Speaker 2: I just think they gotta be more intentional with their business.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, in the world. That make all a sense
Speaker 1: in the world.
Speaker 3: You think that some people might just look at some
Speaker 3: platforms and just say, like, I know they're gonna get
Speaker 3: to the bottom of this or that or that or this,
Speaker 3: and I don't feel like dealing with it.
Speaker 7: You saying, Mason, like, NIA don't want to come fake
Speaker 7: it with certain nigga.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. They know they know I
Speaker 1: see you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: I like, I ain't and they don't feel like keeping
Speaker 8: the rig. I can go in and do some old
Speaker 8: ship from up to promote my ASB, but I don't
Speaker 8: want to go sit in front of the rials, respect
Speaker 8: out and sniff me out that that's deep Ship respect
Speaker 8: that you.
Speaker 3: And I was just telling him, and I say it openly,
Speaker 3: like Roccos all our brother, Rocco, just tell you right now,
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna do.
Speaker 7: That straight, no like.
Speaker 8: Respect that this man talk about like you you right,
Speaker 8: He's like, nah, I'd rather come when I got someone.
Speaker 8: I want to respect that.
Speaker 2: And when he pop out, he's gonna stop because he
Speaker 2: hit me. He's gonna stop by me. He gonna stop
Speaker 2: by y'all. And that's what I'm saying. Ain't nobody saying
Speaker 2: pop out? And when a nigga called on you, it said, Yo,
Speaker 2: when you do pop out, make sure you feed.
Speaker 7: The po with exactly keep it one hundred.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep one hundred.
Speaker 8: Like a lot of my friends that are big rappers
Speaker 8: and ship, I can't be mad that they had not
Speaker 8: been on my podcast because let me tell you why
Speaker 8: that ain't been on that.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's the thing that's the difference.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Now I can't be I can't take you out
Speaker 8: of your element, like bro, come to.
Speaker 2: Be a fat fuck you doing you?
Speaker 7: But you ain't been on nothing right, So it's like
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: Forks call gqu that nigga I respect that, but I
Speaker 8: ain't seeing you don't nobody else shit, So I can't
Speaker 8: feel like I can't take that person right. And you building,
Speaker 8: you're building some shit to get you some two hundred
Speaker 8: and fifty million dollar, three hundred million dollar, five hundred
Speaker 8: million dollars checks, And I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 8: what to take to get them kind of chicks cause
Speaker 8: I never had one right, right, So I can't take
Speaker 8: how I feel our friendship should be personally because you
Speaker 8: never came on my ship, right.
Speaker 2: But them level them class and niggas day out of
Speaker 2: that picture, day out of this conversation, because it's a
Speaker 2: certain class of niggas that they do have that fan
Speaker 2: base in that that that media footprint with just mean
Speaker 2: pages and Twitter communities like Pluto. He bulletproofed to a
Speaker 2: lot of this shit because what happens is when they
Speaker 2: shoot at him, he got ninety pages this yeah, man,
Speaker 2: he wanted them. One hey, y'all, forget hey. He wanted them.
Speaker 2: He wanted them, and that, as bad as it sounds,
Speaker 2: that helps with the narratives, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But it's the tier under that that you will see.
Speaker 2: Come sit with me, well, not me, because I don't
Speaker 2: even require it. But you will see him come sit
Speaker 2: somewhere and they'll get this low, low level interview and
Speaker 2: then they pop out next to some of these guys
Speaker 2: who they've been convinced has this mass following that doesn't
Speaker 2: translate to him, and they'll give the exclusive and this.
Speaker 4: And that, and it's like, Yo, we're building a business.
Speaker 2: Down here in the South right, absolute meet because every
Speaker 2: time he speak, he say wallow and get it.
Speaker 4: He has Philly, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Even if it wasn't Philly, if it was even in
Speaker 2: that area, he you dig. But these Southern artists in particular,
Speaker 2: I'm talking to y'all just running all around the world.
Speaker 2: And while we got to speak on your behalf. When
Speaker 2: y'all drop or being creative in the studio and put
Speaker 2: it out of it, don't hit right. We gotta say
Speaker 2: give him time. Hold on, y'all for y'all be critical,
Speaker 2: y'all forgot he got nine classes because they so right
Speaker 2: now that won't even matter. Yeah, you know so, I
Speaker 2: think man's it's a lot of room for growth in
Speaker 2: this game, especially from from us down hill. We're way
Speaker 2: too powerful by ourselves not to be as together and
Speaker 2: really be moving culture. These interviews really be shaking ship
Speaker 2: up and moving culture.
Speaker 4: I'm disappointed, and trust I'm gonna be alright without it.
Speaker 8: What's the shit you can say like you thought yourself
Speaker 8: for like getting in your own way. It's doun your
Speaker 8: own growth. You know what I'm saying. You know how
Speaker 8: we all gotta take accountability life. Man, if I wouldn't
Speaker 8: be like this, man, shit, I gotta work on I
Speaker 8: gotta work on this. I gotta work on snapping too fast.
Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying, Like this, whatever I think,
Speaker 8: what me and you would not on the podcast.
Speaker 2: It's like, don't let them trick me in the reaction
Speaker 2: or in my feelings, you know, because I'm gonna tell
Speaker 2: you no, I'm gonna tell you I ain't doing it.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you certain like I ain't gonna play
Speaker 2: with nobody because I don't want to be played with.
Speaker 2: And so when someone playing with me, I gotta learn
Speaker 2: to say. Man, they do that, and it's being as long.
Speaker 2: This is what they do, brother, head down, keep building
Speaker 2: your shit, you know what I'm saying. They play these
Speaker 2: games like the passing of the phone. Numbers and all
Speaker 2: these little things. I'm uninterested because if it don't materialize,
Speaker 2: if it ain't beneficial, it's artificial, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Because I gotta be the person to come out.
Speaker 2: I know I'm one of the most savveest niggas in
Speaker 2: the South with a microphone, So any narrative that come out,
Speaker 2: I can dance with this shit. This is what I do.
Speaker 2: We media, these niggas is on the court. You never
Speaker 2: argue with the referee. You see your coach down there.
Speaker 2: Come on, man, you're doing too much with the call player.
Speaker 2: You ain't see he got his hand on his back.
Speaker 2: You stay on the court, my nigga. You see what
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So it's it's simple to me, bro, But I guess
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 2: I don't know, bro, But hopefully this conversation helps somebody
Speaker 2: build out or understand it. Don't gotta be me. I
Speaker 2: want to be front facing with that. Never gotta be
Speaker 2: loan powerful by itself. I want to be on record
Speaker 2: saying that because this ain't one of them. This is
Speaker 2: literally to preserve what little bit of culture we got
Speaker 2: left that they letting get told down.
Speaker 4: In my opinion, how.
Speaker 1: Do you feel about the state of the music, street
Speaker 1: music particularly.
Speaker 2: I don't really listen to music a lot, bro. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm more so listening to books and shit, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. Like, I always got a book on
Speaker 2: when I was out there, I got something on. It's
Speaker 2: just always feeding me because I gotta I gotta communicate,
Speaker 2: so I gotta be in take, gotta be hot. So
Speaker 2: every time I crack a mic, I got something I
Speaker 2: can say.
Speaker 1: I got you.
Speaker 4: You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So you kind of you kind of saying I'm just saying,
Speaker 3: you kind of saying that the music, some of it,
Speaker 3: it ain't saying much.
Speaker 1: That's what you gotta say. I'm I kind of feel
Speaker 1: like that too.
Speaker 7: None of less ain't saying nothing right, not for the
Speaker 7: level of the nigga all.
Speaker 8: You're gonna have to listen to R and B. Man
Speaker 8: good because you know what I'm saying. And I'm gonna
Speaker 8: take the question. I can't resonate with this. I can't
Speaker 8: resonate with some ship that ain't making me grow, you
Speaker 8: know what I'm saying. So if I'm in the space
Speaker 8: where I want to feel lovey dovey, I listen.
Speaker 2: To be so R and B now sometimes it's time
Speaker 2: to put that motherfucker on and let it go now.
Speaker 2: But I'm casual now with it. I ain't like I
Speaker 2: used to be every time I minor cas some music on.
Speaker 2: Now I got you know, podcasts going, I'm going. It's
Speaker 2: just because what you can't do is get on these
Speaker 2: mics and keep using the same words, keep using you
Speaker 2: got the this is money home maing I come from,
Speaker 2: I got mine out the pot. Ain't nobody gonna dispute
Speaker 2: that watching this right, not nobody right. So when I'm
Speaker 2: saying it, bro, this is a blessing. I'm taking time
Speaker 2: with this, my nigga. Right. So sometimes I'll wake up
Speaker 2: and be like, bro, like I gotta, I gotta just
Speaker 2: sometimes I can crack the shit and don't even use it.
Speaker 2: Just you gotta get it that mold, get comfortable in
Speaker 2: that mold and got to work on it. Bro. It's
Speaker 2: business is money. Young content creators out there, this is money, bro.
Speaker 2: You know, fifty sixty rects a day. I just told you,
Speaker 2: And that's just that's just one dude. Bro, there's just
Speaker 2: like repurpose and content on YouTube, like you gotta know
Speaker 2: how to. But see it's people will take that, and
Speaker 2: here's some mold game. People will take what I said
Speaker 2: and start implementing that, right, which is good game. But
Speaker 2: it's also layers in that. Right.
Speaker 4: So even when these dudes take this six hour.
Speaker 2: Livestream, there's a there's an art form in how they
Speaker 2: title this shit. There's an understanding of s CEO to
Speaker 2: make it rank high in the search results. Right, So
Speaker 2: it ain't just get a big interview, clip it up,
Speaker 2: put it out. It's so much more that these guys
Speaker 2: are so far ahead of these rappers understanding, bro, you know,
Speaker 2: and so I'm telling y'all this ain't by coincidence that
Speaker 2: when you Google Meet Meal that his discs from one
Speaker 2: of these blogger niggas pop up before his music.
Speaker 4: There's a supreme understanding of titling.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 9: Listen, brother, this shit is deep. Yay, bro, he's cold
Speaker 9: game right up for you. You can type in my
Speaker 9: name right now. The bullshit come up first.
Speaker 2: Because guess why when Bank upload here, you didn't put
Speaker 2: no tags in it. He didn't have no key words
Speaker 2: in the description, keywords in the title.
Speaker 4: These little niggas can put some bullshit up there.
Speaker 2: But understand all of that that we just say, nigga,
Speaker 2: my content better than your nigga push up. It ain't that.
Speaker 2: Like I'm kicking in real ship that that ship ain't nothing.
Speaker 2: It'll make us start to think the streets don't exist
Speaker 2: on the Internet when I know they line when every
Speaker 2: nigga I bump into got Instagram, So they can't convince
Speaker 2: me the streets ain't on the internet street, you know.
Speaker 4: So yeah, man, they said else when I got big.
Speaker 3: So what's what's what? What's one thing you see for yourself?
Speaker 3: Like the next level for yourself? I want a hundred men, Okay,
Speaker 3: we want to fifty. It's all good, but I won't.
Speaker 2: I won't five hundred, but one hundred is a hundred
Speaker 2: is a cold stuff, and I want to be a
Speaker 2: little grounded in my you did What's what?
Speaker 7: These nigga don't got damn like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: Then, because that's where I get that energy that somebody
Speaker 8: got trying to play with the well.
Speaker 2: It's a it's a you know, listen. Let me also
Speaker 2: be clear about this loan don't reach out. I'm yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't like that. Well, so I got a few
Speaker 2: of these guys, you know, for me, it's unfortunate because
Speaker 2: let me break this in.
Speaker 1: I grew up.
Speaker 2: With the no snitching code, right, I'm saying, even from
Speaker 2: my mother, Nigga, you can call my mama.
Speaker 4: She gonna say he better not till they gonna kill me.
Speaker 4: They're gonna scared.
Speaker 2: When I was coming up, they had my mama and
Speaker 2: them scared that a snitch.
Speaker 4: Gonna get everybody killed. So I come under that law.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: My job was to not pass that to my children,
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna get to what I'm gonna get to this.
Speaker 2: Trust me. My job is to not pass that to
Speaker 2: my children, but to pass to my children that taking
Speaker 2: responsibility is the highest form of adulthood.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 2: See, they pass snitching to me. I take snitching and
Speaker 2: can't get that toxic. That's too toxic. But I I
Speaker 2: gotta let him know that taking responsibility and accountability it's
Speaker 2: the highest.
Speaker 4: Form of adulthood and manhood.
Speaker 2: So you stand on what you do, right. But everything
Speaker 2: they done smear to snitch thing so bad. I gotta
Speaker 2: separate my children from that.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: Repurposing that put me in a position to say, oh shit,
Speaker 2: I got a certain kind of mentality to be able
Speaker 2: to think like, oh I can kind of I bump
Speaker 2: in up. You know, I'm gonna let him remain nameless
Speaker 2: because for me, it ain't no value in saying these
Speaker 2: guys name They know when they see me what they've done.
Speaker 4: Reached out to me.
Speaker 2: A couple of these guys in DM ME called me like,
Speaker 2: bro want to get on the show, and then just
Speaker 2: didn't get on the show. Bank was telling me not
Speaker 2: to take that away, right, And I know he probably
Speaker 2: got that energy. He got this energy now and I
Speaker 2: love it. I tell him I love it. Where it's
Speaker 2: like now, I can respect that. I can't.
Speaker 4: You feel me?
Speaker 3: You say you can't respect somebody they change their accountability
Speaker 3: and taking responsibility is the highest.
Speaker 4: Form of adulthood.
Speaker 2: Why I'm lying to another man about anything any way?
Speaker 4: Man, you from another one. I'm respecting manhood.
Speaker 7: But niggas ain't me.
Speaker 4: That's what's sucking me up.
Speaker 3: But I guess I'm trying to understand what is what
Speaker 3: is the thrill in DM in one of us is saying,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna come and see you.
Speaker 7: Let me say this, Jay, let me say this.
Speaker 8: A nigga could see some ship that you do so
Speaker 8: hard and in the moment just want to salute you
Speaker 8: and give your flowers by saying, bring you hard. I
Speaker 8: want to fuck with you, but I cannot be ready
Speaker 8: to do an interview. And the way you carried it
Speaker 8: from that point on that damn because I reached out
Speaker 8: to na anything kind of any feeling because.
Speaker 2: I ain't ready.
Speaker 8: Now loom Mad made him slick this in a nigga,
Speaker 8: any whole ass niggas to reach out to you, and.
Speaker 4: I guess and I ain't saying that.
Speaker 8: But I know you ain't saying but now a nigga
Speaker 8: know you will be up, So why put me in
Speaker 8: that position?
Speaker 2: How am I putting a position I'm saying I want
Speaker 2: to do. I ain't saying I'm over here in the kitchen.
Speaker 2: I ain't bothering nobody. You said wait till you ready
Speaker 2: for you man, don't even you could tell me salute
Speaker 2: without talking about getting on the show.
Speaker 1: It's the same. It's it's the same. It's the same.
Speaker 1: Like niggas do that every game.
Speaker 7: You raping.
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying, and but but they be so
Speaker 2: extra out though. So boy, you the motherfucking boy. I'm
Speaker 2: talm about you, but I'm saying, if I'm next, treat
Speaker 2: me like I'm that.
Speaker 7: I'm treating like I'm that because I'm acknowledging that.
Speaker 2: Nah, you acknowledgement. Don't you trying to me acknowledge me
Speaker 2: and think you go far if you wrap I'm in
Speaker 2: the bids. I don't know if you.
Speaker 3: Rapping, somebody say they're gonna don't go farther, They're gonna
Speaker 3: jump on your song.
Speaker 1: What's the time limit for that? Does that mean niggatt
Speaker 1: to do it?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Tell this about but hold on too, because I got
Speaker 2: a lot of people that watch me.
Speaker 4: Let me be click.
Speaker 2: Because they may come off ericant. I do appreciate people
Speaker 2: that appreciate what I do. I want to be clear
Speaker 2: with that we're talking about in this business space where
Speaker 2: they think they can keep either you muzzled or use
Speaker 2: your voice when they need it. Sure, so my thing is,
Speaker 2: don't utilize me and then don't come fuck with our business.
Speaker 2: I got you, That's all I'm saying. Bro, Like dudes
Speaker 2: will see me out like.
Speaker 1: You you the truth?
Speaker 4: You that you that cool?
Speaker 2: You supposed to treat everything like what it is.
Speaker 7: Don but.
Speaker 2: Go ahead.
Speaker 4: I'm with you to tell me because don't tell me
Speaker 4: you're coming know where what.
Speaker 6: You think I feel like, Okay, so here's here's my thing. No,
Speaker 6: because it's like it's like a lot of these niggas,
Speaker 6: a lot of these niggas feel like they have to
Speaker 6: make that initial contact to.
Speaker 5: Prevent any other.
Speaker 6: Thing. Like they feel like if I say it first,
Speaker 6: if I say it first, then you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: and I put it out there first, then okay, it's
Speaker 6: on my time, or I really don't even have to
Speaker 6: do it. I just said it and you know this
Speaker 6: and that blah blah blah. But the reason that a
Speaker 6: lot of these niggas don't follow up with those first
Speaker 6: reach outs in those first contexts is because these niggas
Speaker 6: be scared of the truth.
Speaker 5: These niggas be scared of the truth, and these niggas
Speaker 5: be scared that the truth is.
Speaker 6: Gonna come out. And they know that when you said yes, bro,
Speaker 6: when you sit with certain people, it's no, it's no
Speaker 6: stopping it. Like I can pull the wool over these
Speaker 6: other niggas eyes and I can say what I want
Speaker 6: to say and they'll go for it and they'll help
Speaker 6: me push the bullshit up and you know what I'm
Speaker 6: saying all that ship, but certain people, it's.
Speaker 5: Not gonna fly.
Speaker 6: And then I'm gonna get in the middle of my
Speaker 6: interview sitting with these certain people that are gonna pull
Speaker 6: the truth out of me.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna get stuck and I'm gonna look stupid, and.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna reach out to you before you feel like
Speaker 8: I'm hating, because I know I should. You know what
Speaker 8: I'm saying something, Come over them niggas right then, like Brooke,
Speaker 8: he doing what you're doing?
Speaker 7: Oh, I'm coming to fuck with niggas. Say that just offer.
Speaker 8: I feel like I have to do because this is
Speaker 8: the type of nigga Pete fake ship?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was fake what you're doing? How you
Speaker 2: gonna beat me with fake ship? Not Pepe fake ship? Right?
Speaker 2: You coming with fake ship to a nigga to peep
Speaker 2: fake ship?
Speaker 1: How is it feeling?
Speaker 2: Because because you ain't got it, it's hollow you you
Speaker 2: know you bullshitting with it? You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: Like you know it ain't I'm gonna tell you what
Speaker 2: the niggas doing.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna tell you the word for it. No, this
Speaker 7: is the actual word.
Speaker 1: What's the word.
Speaker 7: They don't be ready to come on in?
Speaker 8: They be flirt he said, nigga be flirting to see
Speaker 8: if I fuck with you, let me nigga trying to
Speaker 8: take on the initial let's start sending each other funny ship,
Speaker 8: and then niggas want to do.
Speaker 3: What he's saying is why they go out of town
Speaker 3: and let him hit it one night, you.
Speaker 2: Know, because they feel like that shit is or why
Speaker 2: lie to something abou Listen, brother, because I'm doing business.
Speaker 2: I done got three four five deals in everybody face.
Speaker 2: I don't even got a co host. I understand this business.
Speaker 2: I'm not somebody that got nobody reaching out to folks.
Speaker 2: I don't even know how to do that. You see
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So I'm saying, why if you see me,
Speaker 2: you see bank, you see us, you you brother, look
Speaker 2: at me. I'm coming from the darkness, y'all niggas playing
Speaker 2: with this shit. I'm trying to lead a dokness this
Speaker 2: serious to.
Speaker 6: Meness I'm saying, but what you're saying what Black was
Speaker 6: saying about these niggas flirting and you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: want to be courted and want to go on dating ship, bro,
Speaker 6: But you hit me first and you say that you
Speaker 6: want to come on my platform and you want to
Speaker 6: do an interview knowing that you don't have solid intentions
Speaker 6: of actually doing that.
Speaker 5: Now I feel like I'm a hoof and now.
Speaker 7: You see what y'all in y'all feeling tell you.
Speaker 2: Got no expectations to a nigga.
Speaker 7: Let me tell you something, Please Jay, Please all right,
Speaker 7: I'm listening. I've been saying this ship forever, Bro.
Speaker 8: The only way you be the fake nigga it to
Speaker 8: be faking in them.
Speaker 1: But what if you don't want to play that game?
Speaker 2: Is this is the game we're in. This is not
Speaker 2: the streets.
Speaker 7: This is some fake ship.
Speaker 2: That's the niggas tell me hit me.
Speaker 7: I know he faking me out.
Speaker 2: If I see him, I'll be like, hey, yea brother,
Speaker 2: I know you be being it, bro, faking that's hard.
Speaker 2: I ain't listen. It ain't my feeling. You don't never
Speaker 2: forget to happen right around telling me and my man,
Speaker 2: why you shaking this nigga?
Speaker 1: Why not?
Speaker 8: Because at the end of the day, you see, this
Speaker 8: ship ain't stopping no matter if you come on this year,
Speaker 8: then what I'm doing, Yeah, niggas, and I'm having a
Speaker 8: big fact ship show spected with bank hiking with bank
Speaker 8: linking in linking us. Hey man, this shit don't stop
Speaker 8: because of your interview now, but if you want to
Speaker 8: play it, okay, cool, bro, you might not be ready.
Speaker 2: Nah fuck that I'm talking about this. I'm talking about
Speaker 2: the business side because again, were talking about the niggas
Speaker 2: is popping downs.
Speaker 8: Got money with niggas even in the streets. You only
Speaker 8: get money with your for other niggas that like, mind,
Speaker 8: I don't spect to get no money with these niggas.
Speaker 8: But the ship that we're doing, Bro, ain't no where
Speaker 8: in the fun that niggas in this city or whoever
Speaker 8: don't feel like, Bro, I want to be a part
Speaker 8: of that because we're doing some.
Speaker 7: Huge ship with everything we do but hold up.
Speaker 8: But at the end of the day, I'm not in
Speaker 8: my feeling because I wouldn't if I was in, I
Speaker 8: wouldn't reach out to them niggas.
Speaker 2: But I can't let you frame this like. I can't
Speaker 2: let you frame this like feelings because it is because
Speaker 2: it's feelings. Shit happened when niggas is mad. Hold up,
Speaker 2: but well, brother, shit happened when niggas.
Speaker 8: Okay, but there was a feeling still though, No, no, no,
Speaker 8: it's the end of the day, if a nigga reach
Speaker 8: out to you and don't pull up on you, and.
Speaker 2: What what a problem occurs? The problem occurs because you
Speaker 2: feel no, no, no.
Speaker 1: The problem.
Speaker 2: The problem occurs because we're in a business, we're operating in.
Speaker 8: The what I'm saying, okay, the first when he first
Speaker 8: start bushing.
Speaker 2: What happens after that?
Speaker 8: Inside within you you feel like he's playing with you.
Speaker 1: You feel like you feel.
Speaker 2: Like you feel I'm not saying it's absence of feelings.
Speaker 2: I'm saying no, no, no. When you frame it that way,
Speaker 2: it seems like that it's all feelings. No, no, no,
Speaker 2: it's not. It's all it's feelings.
Speaker 8: Its first feelings didn't come morals because I got to
Speaker 8: know my more. My feelings become coming from my morals.
Speaker 2: I can't say it's feelings.
Speaker 8: Feels from how I am, my perspective.
Speaker 6: But I feel I think what LRDA is trying to
Speaker 6: say what you're saying about framing it like feelings, because
Speaker 6: if you're framing it like it's feelings, that's making him
Speaker 6: seem like he's emotional like a lady.
Speaker 2: Check ourselves. That ain't no.
Speaker 8: I had to bro please please say this No matter
Speaker 8: what we do or how we try to make it
Speaker 8: seem like or whatever we want to feel like. At
Speaker 8: the end of the day, the only reason why a
Speaker 8: motherfucker have a problem with another motherfucker is because of
Speaker 8: the way they feed.
Speaker 4: Not in business, it don't matter.
Speaker 8: It's not no business, no no country. Game in son,
Speaker 8: you don't want to see.
Speaker 2: That's the thing, the whole music being, the whole music
Speaker 2: being this operas on the whole music being this operation
Speaker 2: on this like this barter system. That's not contracts in
Speaker 2: every fancy that his sister. But we gotta weed out
Speaker 2: to fake ship. No, I'm saying when it pertains, when
Speaker 2: it pertains the media. We just spoke about how you
Speaker 2: now have a machine or people who represent a certain
Speaker 2: narrative that's affecting business right on the other side, and
Speaker 2: they're loud about that. At this time you need a
Speaker 2: line of defense here. You have allies in media, but
Speaker 2: those airlines in media are not represented on your role out.
Speaker 2: So I'm saying that everything in the business operates on
Speaker 2: the barer system. I ain't never had a contract with
Speaker 2: someone who has came on the shows. You're right by
Speaker 2: what you said.
Speaker 8: Hello, Jay, please let me get this ship out because
Speaker 8: this is gonna help some people.
Speaker 2: But it ain't about what you said.
Speaker 7: Hold hold on, you're right, you're right by what you're saying.
Speaker 8: But at the end of the day, when a motherfucker'll
Speaker 8: do business the proper way, you feel like they should.
Speaker 7: What happens now feel a way?
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you frame any wrong though, And let me.
Speaker 5: Say this please, I don't please. So what Black is
Speaker 5: saying is all the.
Speaker 6: Way correct, like, okay, it is definitely feelings that caused
Speaker 6: the issues or whatever. But what I want to say
Speaker 6: is is that when you have been I don't even
Speaker 6: want to say wrong, but when somebody volunteers some fake
Speaker 6: ship tell you there's nothing wrong with feeling a way
Speaker 6: about it, the issues the problem in the issue comes
Speaker 6: in where it's nothing wrong with having feelings, and it's
Speaker 6: nothing wrong with feeling a way, it's nothing wrong with
Speaker 6: none of that ship. But the problem comes in when
Speaker 6: your emotions begin to overpower your intelligence.
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, and that ain't gonna never happen, right, it's
Speaker 2: high level game being put down.
Speaker 4: But what will.
Speaker 5: Happen is because English cloud to clouded.
Speaker 6: When your emotions cloud you're thinking to the point where
Speaker 6: you can't even think straight and all you are thinking
Speaker 6: about is these emotions.
Speaker 5: Then that's where you fucked up.
Speaker 8: To me, anytime you get in your feelings, you're putting
Speaker 8: too many expectations on people. That's my initial feelings is
Speaker 8: ain't nobody gonna keep.
Speaker 7: It solid till they keep it?
Speaker 2: See you signed, but you don't done so much.
Speaker 5: It's human nature to be in your feeling, but you don't.
Speaker 4: Done so much beings in this being this to to
Speaker 4: not acknowledge the.
Speaker 2: Fact that there's an expectation on and an understanding on
Speaker 2: on on understanding right, and so like if we, if we,
Speaker 2: I'm telling you that, can't nobody come and tell me
Speaker 2: something and not do it and then I see him
Speaker 2: and speak to him and act like that's cool. I
Speaker 2: don't play the game like that. Maybe I should, but
Speaker 2: that yeah, that's what I'm telling you.
Speaker 8: No, no, no, If you if I did something that
Speaker 8: went against how you feel and you see me and
Speaker 8: you don't speak to me, you're in your field.
Speaker 4: Staying away from poison ivy you.
Speaker 7: You don't know.
Speaker 2: You don't say the nigga walking through the garden and
Speaker 2: it's feeling when we say well that ain't no good.
Speaker 4: Stay on away from that ship. That ship spreads and
Speaker 4: it gets on you and it fucks with and you break.
Speaker 2: Out in the hide, right, I'm telling you when I
Speaker 2: see one of these niggas, that's how I'm looking at
Speaker 2: these niggas. It's yeah, here go crazy. I get to
Speaker 2: break it out in So I'm because I ain't asking
Speaker 2: or nothing, bro. And then when I'm leaving where I'm
Speaker 2: leaving from, put some respect on on knowing that big
Speaker 2: like he might be in your time, I seeing me fast.
Speaker 8: Hold up, but hold up, but ken a nigga, you
Speaker 8: know what I'm saying. This is a great conversation. I
Speaker 8: like this for people that's watching, Like I'm just saying.
Speaker 8: I know I'm a Gemini, so I go in and
Speaker 8: out right, I can.
Speaker 7: Tell a Nigga'm gonna do some ship for a long
Speaker 7: year's time and do it on my time.
Speaker 8: This is how I am nigga feel about it. That's
Speaker 8: what I was about and would do something. We can
Speaker 8: shoot it out whatever the nigga want to do. And
Speaker 8: guess that's how I feel. But I ain't faking you out, no,
Speaker 8: not just ain't ready even And I'm gonna be responsible
Speaker 8: to you.
Speaker 4: But like, hey, Bromna, that's what it is.
Speaker 2: Just I ain't ready yet.
Speaker 6: That's the that's the that's the that's that's that's the
Speaker 6: key part communication.
Speaker 2: That's what you're saying.
Speaker 5: You saying you gotta do it all your time, like
Speaker 5: real shit, You saying you're gonna do it all your
Speaker 5: time and leaving it. Okay, I said I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna do it all my time. It's basically like
Speaker 5: saying fuck me.
Speaker 7: You saying that.
Speaker 2: He yes, yes, if you feel bad, I'm.
Speaker 5: Gonna do it.
Speaker 4: I'm ready.
Speaker 5: Hey, I'm not ready. I'm not ready. I'm still gonna
Speaker 5: do it. I got you coming.
Speaker 1: I'm not ready.
Speaker 2: You Jay, you screamed this big fat. I means up
Speaker 2: there podcast solidified deals on every aspect of the game, right,
Speaker 2: So that's one thing. But if I'm an up and
Speaker 2: comer and you done put that under me, you gotta
Speaker 2: think myigga. Yeah, So I'm fighting for them niggas home
Speaker 2: because I'm gonna keep saying it. I'm gonna strike go
Speaker 2: whether nigga comes shoveling or not. You did, so I'm
Speaker 2: telling you I'm fighting for the niggas under me that's
Speaker 2: running into you, niggas that spending such and such on
Speaker 2: the meet and greet and get back here, show you
Speaker 2: they podcast or Instagram and you go to popping the
Speaker 2: fake ship.
Speaker 4: And that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: So that's my thing is again, man of your word,
Speaker 2: we stand on principal, right, Bro, you know how big
Speaker 2: I am. Dang you ain't nothing. Thank Have you ever
Speaker 2: seen a nigga next to me? Have you ever seen
Speaker 2: me somewhere go out? I'm never playing. Ain't nobody under
Speaker 2: know what's saying nothing about me? I'm the truth, right,
Speaker 2: I'm the truth, truth, truth. So for me, Bro, I'm
Speaker 2: looking at these nigga saying, I'm looking at these niggas saying, bruhs,
Speaker 2: niggas under me that I'm gonna lit the way a
Speaker 2: little bit far. They don't figured out. Oh he got
Speaker 2: with baby man. Maybe if I can get with and
Speaker 2: I know him, I'm a fan on my love him,
Speaker 2: I might get up under me telling man, I remember
Speaker 2: when you drive and just feed it, you're digging. Then
Speaker 2: you promise him some ship. He go back home, tell
Speaker 2: his marm he I don't know what's going on when
Speaker 2: I'm fighting for the market. Yeah, I'm fighting for the
Speaker 2: field under Yeah, he ain't got his number in anything.
Speaker 2: Just stop as his girl.
Speaker 5: You ain't even got.
Speaker 7: Jay that would put you in.
Speaker 2: But I'm telling you yeah nah, but it ain't gonna
Speaker 2: put us in our feelings because this ship moving. But
Speaker 2: the young nigga, the little even not young, the old
Speaker 2: content creating nigga. That's thirty thirty two. Yeah, it's like yo, man,
Speaker 2: I've been to the penitentiary. We were locked up to
Speaker 2: get whatever it might be. And you go with promise
Speaker 2: from something and then don't stand on it. I have
Speaker 2: a little respect for that problem. Stand on your word.
Speaker 2: It ain't feelings, it's responsibility, expectations.
Speaker 7: It's feeling. We can we can try to.
Speaker 2: Yea will agreed to get.
Speaker 8: What you think if you take this Just imagine if
Speaker 8: you take that ship, it's fuel and I'm gonna see
Speaker 8: the same nigga interview this nigga on my big.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you need that shot though, but you need that
Speaker 2: shot in the especially in an over saturated podcast market.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 2: So again, if you not us and you popping out now, it's.
Speaker 1: Problems, justified feelings.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying I'm saying I ain't in my feelings.
Speaker 2: I gotta be cold with that because of the Internet.
Speaker 2: It's weird, right, and there's narratives that run around. I
Speaker 2: gotta be clean saying that. So when they clip that,
Speaker 2: they clip that. You know what I'm saying, right, clip
Speaker 2: that part with me saying it ain't feeling for.
Speaker 4: Up and coming nigga. It could be his feelings.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he gonna be in this because he's he could special.
Speaker 8: Yeah, right now, you're just shed light on nigga doing
Speaker 8: exactly they try to do. A real nig try to
Speaker 8: do a nigga who, brother, I don't even talk to
Speaker 8: I wouldn't even talk to a nigga like you regularly.
Speaker 8: I got a podcast, you got a name, so I
Speaker 8: bring you only, But I don't even talk to niggas
Speaker 8: like you comparably. So that's what I'm on personally, Like Bro,
Speaker 8: the niggas I wouldn't talk to. I don't even want
Speaker 8: to sit next to the niggas on right. And I
Speaker 8: told y'all that play well, how can you play this
Speaker 8: game in this business? Do y'all struggle with trying to
Speaker 8: get him to understand that your bank.
Speaker 1: I think we I think we find the fine line
Speaker 1: of just balance, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But I feel like I'm.
Speaker 8: Gonna keep one hundred bro, and I've been drinking the wine.
Speaker 8: I feel our best ship is Big Fat Friday. This
Speaker 8: is only me, Baby Jay DJ screen shot Jones Kodak.
Speaker 7: That's our crew.
Speaker 2: Folk.
Speaker 8: If you not to start your ship, if you live
Speaker 8: by a guess, you die by again. You bring your
Speaker 8: nigga on your ship, and he make it. He the
Speaker 8: only only way you do numbers.
Speaker 2: You ain't doing no numbers, right, That's why I built it,
Speaker 2: how I built it exactly.
Speaker 7: Nigga was just you. You ain't have no guess. It
Speaker 7: was just you, nigga.
Speaker 2: When I first You're like, boy, you.
Speaker 1: All, yeah, it was just you.
Speaker 2: You just rating the game.
Speaker 7: Yeah, this is what you were doing.
Speaker 8: You were narrating the game. I don't seem like three
Speaker 8: four interview, three fold clips. Then I seen that that
Speaker 8: last one.
Speaker 7: I was like, boy, you're gonna cray. I don't know
Speaker 7: which one word you talking about something.
Speaker 8: But what I'm saying is until you become to start
Speaker 8: your own ship, that's looking to me, that's looking for
Speaker 8: a nigga. That goddamn a crutch even though we need that.
Speaker 8: But off the rip, you already got loan to a
Speaker 8: point to where and up there to a point to where.
Speaker 8: Niggas fuck with that, and then you're saying your court
Speaker 8: fan like boy my bother god baby on him.
Speaker 2: Then you got a cord that's gonna push you.
Speaker 7: All they trying to Okay, I pop out with jay
Speaker 7: z J gone next week.
Speaker 2: That ship nothing and he don't even want to repost
Speaker 2: it here you know they collaboration. He don't want to
Speaker 2: no collabse I don't like it. It's business, brother, Why
Speaker 2: I keep telling you, bro like it's business.
Speaker 1: It's just like a rap This is just like a
Speaker 1: rap feature. I'm telling you the same same ship.
Speaker 8: If a nigga do it verse for a nigga and
Speaker 8: the nigga do the video everything, but then when the ship.
Speaker 2: Dropped, hold mass, it's different.
Speaker 7: Well, when the ship dropped and you can't get the.
Speaker 8: Nigga to post it collab posting nothing and can't get
Speaker 8: the paper time, should you be in your feelings?
Speaker 3: No, because if they did the verse on the strength
Speaker 3: and if you can't get it clear, if they're on
Speaker 3: a label and they hit you and you've been hit
Speaker 3: and I've been here to say I want you to
Speaker 3: do the video. We might say, hey man, this is
Speaker 3: what is gonna be for the video.
Speaker 1: I gotta go.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna give you a prime example the right with it,
Speaker 8: come on with Yeah, it's like Pluto, my nigga. He
Speaker 8: called me, he sent me a song. You kid this fuck,
Speaker 8: let's do it. Let's drop you a single, twenty five
Speaker 8: squaes and he on the look what the ship hardest?
Speaker 2: Fuck? Yeah cool?
Speaker 8: I don't want to shoot the video and all this ship.
Speaker 8: I got this, I got the song, did the verse,
Speaker 8: shot the video. I mean got the videos lined up
Speaker 8: and everything for nine o'clock am.
Speaker 1: Shoot time.
Speaker 8: This nigga didn't show up to like two thirty. Yeah,
Speaker 8: get what I got. The whole hood out there.
Speaker 2: We party.
Speaker 7: I would give a nigga, don't come.
Speaker 1: To your line.
Speaker 2: You can come.
Speaker 1: I'm saying next.
Speaker 7: Week we still be out here where you called me
Speaker 7: for a favor.
Speaker 8: And get what the nigga said. Bro, A lot didn't
Speaker 8: have it because you say twin bitness in a lot.
Speaker 8: They had a cause to to one got to whatever
Speaker 8: I said, Bro, I don't give what time you come
Speaker 8: even call them where you at bro and we you
Speaker 8: know like bro. He probably called it team like because
Speaker 8: all them is over there now they they wait'ting on
Speaker 8: you said that.
Speaker 2: No chilling. But see here's the difference with that, right
Speaker 2: because the value number one. Even if you paid for
Speaker 2: for that and they don't do that, I still would
Speaker 2: argue it's okay depending on the artist.
Speaker 4: Somebody like Pluto. You don't get a post with that.
Speaker 1: Now this's his.
Speaker 2: He said, he said, I'm letting yeah bathing. Now, yeah,
Speaker 2: you don't get a post with that. It's just that
Speaker 2: because that hold a certain value. No matter what happens.
Speaker 2: You hit me THEESUS legacy acts. When you get in
Speaker 2: these buildings, they got a certain thing called a legacy act.
Speaker 2: What a legacy act is meaning you generate a certain
Speaker 2: amount of money just south catalog. You can stop the
Speaker 2: day and the label still is like you good. But
Speaker 2: some of these guys a poached don't go with that.
Speaker 2: But for music, the value lives in the audio, and
Speaker 2: so if that audio is cleared, that's your money. Brother.
Speaker 2: They don't never got to pop out with you or nothing.
Speaker 2: If you want to meet you one of us and
Speaker 2: you get one of them. You know what to take
Speaker 2: it and what to do.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: But I think music is different interviews is it's like, bro,
Speaker 2: And then you gotta think it's totally different landscape.
Speaker 7: Bro.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 8: I look at all this shit the same. I just
Speaker 8: feel like to me, everybody got their own ways about it.
Speaker 8: I don't know what happened last night. I don't know
Speaker 8: what happened when I feel like you're supposed to.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 8: I don't know what. I don't know what's going on
Speaker 8: in your life, if I mean it, just like you,
Speaker 8: We've been fucking fucking around with each other for like
Speaker 8: two years, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Maybe three? Yeah, long enough saying just on some regular ship.
Speaker 7: What's up?
Speaker 8: Bro?
Speaker 2: You heard right?
Speaker 7: Support you to support me? That's just what it is, nigga,
Speaker 7: all right.
Speaker 8: I just did your ship maybe six months or eight
Speaker 8: months ago, and you just on big thing, right, Neither
Speaker 8: one of us in our feeling because we knowing.
Speaker 1: Bro, Let get this.
Speaker 7: I'm trying to bring it to bedtime. You trying to
Speaker 7: bring me at the bench time. This is what it is.
Speaker 2: But there's a synergy too, right, So again there's a
Speaker 2: clear disconnect with these guys or these rappers. What happens
Speaker 2: is when you get to a certain status, some of
Speaker 2: these people start to have a weird god complex where
Speaker 2: they're they're quick to just say whatever in the moment
Speaker 2: and disconnect.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So I'm telling you, we always got synergy. We always
Speaker 2: when we see each other, we take some time. Whatever
Speaker 2: it is, it's always. It ain't never. It don't never
Speaker 2: feel funny because I'm high level nigga. I'm high level nigga. Bro,
Speaker 2: I feel it. You ain't got to say much nigga.
Speaker 2: I done survived off in steam, so I feel things. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you see what I'm saying. So that's what I mean.
Speaker 2: When you reach out to me, it's like it almost
Speaker 2: felt like a trick played because you reach out to
Speaker 2: me and then it's like, WHOA, what was that?
Speaker 4: Damn. I ain't ask no nigga for nothing.
Speaker 2: When I'm looking in the pot, make sure you lock
Speaker 2: up right. I'm over the stove, my nigga. I'm hustling
Speaker 2: every day, podcasting, I'm somewhat doing something to do. Don't
Speaker 2: make me raise my head up.
Speaker 7: And you did, like you trying to take me off
Speaker 7: my game what I'm doing exactly.
Speaker 2: It's like, bro, respect.
Speaker 7: That would put me in my feeling.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, Bro, I'm hustling by myself. Bank, you
Speaker 2: ain't never seen a team with me. You know I
Speaker 2: serious this, You know how serious?
Speaker 8: I got three deals, six seven different times face to
Speaker 8: face with nobody. I've told you, I walked into this nigga.
Speaker 8: The nigga at a hotel, had this ship set up
Speaker 8: just like this, three folk cameras.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, nigga.
Speaker 2: And here's the proof here here and the whole thing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and here here here's.
Speaker 4: The killer part.
Speaker 2: Right, here's the killer part to let you know. I
Speaker 2: had to come in, Like I said, I come in
Speaker 2: because now I'm cashing in. So if anybody had something
Speaker 2: to do with it, or funded it, or was involved
Speaker 2: in any way, this is the time to be here.
Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying. So for me, you got
Speaker 2: to know, bro, this is real life. I'm telling you,
Speaker 2: I understand the business. Whether they take what I'm saying
Speaker 2: and view it as me being I'm telling you, brother,
Speaker 2: we use each other. And there is cards in this
Speaker 2: space where media can stand out and provide a narrative
Speaker 2: that helps business when these other narratives are taking business.
Speaker 4: That's all.
Speaker 2: My main point is again, if a girl disrespect me,
Speaker 2: I got a girl for yo jay. What's that name? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I can't do nothing with no girl. Why the fuck
Speaker 2: is the rappers arguing with the media. The media handles
Speaker 2: the narrative side of things. You have the music side
Speaker 2: of things.
Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely one correct, come back bro, we do Yeah,
Speaker 8: I got I said we do Big Fat Friday man.
Speaker 7: Yeah, when we got one seat open. Lover, you're in
Speaker 7: the city, we want you to come.
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Speaker 3: We appreciate the conversation.
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