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Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role

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Speaker 1: player for Steve. A blimp. We're not even in the

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Speaker 1: strated here of normalcy. Welcome to another week of One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live. Chris Brown back in the saddle with Steve

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Speaker 1: Tasker here on a Monday, Dune twenty eight and got

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Speaker 1: some interesting stuff to discuss with you on the football

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Speaker 1: front as always, among other things. Um, I am fresh

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Speaker 1: I began to suspect midway through the week when I

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Speaker 1: I'll be very upfront. Not great, Steve. I went in

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Speaker 1: very him, went in very optimistic. Um, and I have

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Speaker 1: We did that didn't have a whole lot of success.

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Speaker 1: So lake is cold, man, sixty eight degrees and not

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Speaker 1: be more impressive. You didn't just make it up, I

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Speaker 1: by that because I'll tell you one thing. It made

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Speaker 1: uh yeah, my son out fished me. Um my dad

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Speaker 1: So at least we got that for him. Um, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: the same time. And then you gotta pick him, mom,

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Speaker 1: you gotta, and then you gotta just are you gonna eat?

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Speaker 1: Did you eat? Do you eat the bass? I mean

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Speaker 1: you no? Release? Catch? Release? Right? So why waste time?

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Speaker 1: Have a few pops? Yeah, Like, you know you'll bring

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Speaker 1: that and as totally fair game, as a win win

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Speaker 1: All right, let me just come full, Let me just

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Speaker 1: bro Let me just tell you a story. All right.

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Speaker 1: You can be the judge of his whether I come

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Speaker 1: from redneck jeans or not. So every for the not.

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Speaker 1: We haven't done it for a couple of years because

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Speaker 1: they got some fishing poles there. But something in the

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Speaker 1: the and it's catfish. They're scavenger fish. It's like it's

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Speaker 1: Oh and listen, it's these aren't just these aren't like

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Speaker 1: magazine cover catfish. So yeah, that last year a couple

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Speaker 1: You don't even So does that make me a redneck?

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Speaker 1: Oh no? What about wearing cut off jeans that that

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Speaker 1: Might be both Sunday, your Sunday go to meet and closes.

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Speaker 1: I mean, wearing your jean shorts that are hemmed up

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Speaker 1: I'll say that, no, they are. No, that is strictly

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Speaker 1: may be. Except for I have a pond in my

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Speaker 1: have I have large mouth in there. Oh nice, right,

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Speaker 1: but you know it's a small it's five hundred feet

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Speaker 1: especially for five year old grand kids. They're they're loving it.

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Speaker 1: So I do have that going on. But other than that,

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Speaker 1: that's not that doesn't even count to me. That's like

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Speaker 1: fishing in a bathtub. Yeah, But so other than that,

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Speaker 1: go out. Meanwhile, my cousin who lives up in Maine

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Speaker 1: And so he caught He caught about four or five

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Speaker 1: best that week. An ex neighbor of mine who's not

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Speaker 1: we're still friends and stuff. An nex neighborround. I was

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Speaker 1: He had a pond too, and he has a pond

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Speaker 1: around my pond, so he can come over all teaching.

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Speaker 1: I never did, but he used to take a lot

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Speaker 1: of coordination. Well, he he's a pro, literally, like he's

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that. But and then the buddy I

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Speaker 1: talked to you about my golfing buddy, he sends me

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Speaker 1: year valley, yeah, zor valley, and he'll sho bring send

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Speaker 1: back pictures of steelhead they catch with flies, and he's

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Speaker 1: he swears that it's the best thing ever you can do.

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Speaker 1: King salmon fishing right around just coming up now, this

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Speaker 1: is kind of the prime season for that and Lake Ontario. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you go out with a charter captain, dropping lines out

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Speaker 1: four hundred and fifty yards, you're catching twenty thirty pound

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Speaker 1: king salmon. Yeah, pretty crazy. Those are great eating too, right.

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Speaker 1: She's my wife just told me. Yes, she she was

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, yeah, So they get salmon? Has they go?

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Speaker 1: it's like eat like catfish. I mean, it's like nothing.

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Speaker 1: thing like I don't know about it, you got to

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Speaker 1: you gotta have one of those guys. Why would you

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Speaker 1: let one who possibly is go and not get enough,

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Speaker 1: you know, and go ahead and draft Zach Wilson. Have

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Speaker 1: both those guys on the roster, two young quarterbacks. You'd

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Speaker 1: have those as you'd have two assets at your in

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Speaker 1: your building that other teams would. There's no question have

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Speaker 1: some valued other teams, at least theoretically. And I thought

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Speaker 1: the Jets botched it once again. Now certainly I get it.

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Speaker 1: Sam Darnel was, you're gonna have to guarantee him twenty

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Speaker 1: three million dollars on his fifth year like he'd like

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Speaker 1: the Bills did Sam, or the Bills did Josh out.

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Speaker 1: It wouldn't be fifty twenty three, it'd be seventeen or

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Speaker 1: eighteen like it was because he didn't make a right

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Speaker 1: but I think it was. I think it was might

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Speaker 1: it might have been twenty three for his contract number

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Speaker 1: or whatever. I'm not I'm not sure. Anyway, Darnel was

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Speaker 1: going to cost him some money. Yeah, but if he's

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Speaker 1: the guy you got, you got the other guy in

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Speaker 1: a rookie contract. Yeah. I just thought they botched that,

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Speaker 1: unless they felt like they needed the draft capital to

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Speaker 1: upgrade their offensive line or whatever. But I just do

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Speaker 1: know they had. I wonder how much they worried about

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Speaker 1: a quarterback competition, and that's swallowing up the players with

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Speaker 1: the New York media. But if you're worried about how

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Speaker 1: players react to a New York media quarterback contra reversity,

449
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Speaker 1: then you don't have the right guys in the first place. Right,

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Speaker 1: I'll be able to handle that like it's no big deal.

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Speaker 1: So and it's curious. So I'm curious to know what

452
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Speaker 1: the ultimate motive was, like, Oh, we gotta start fresh

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna ride with this guy. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: basically are putting your job on the line because it's

455
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Speaker 1: resting on the shoulders Zach Wilson's future in this league

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Speaker 1: as a player and so that's I see the value

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Speaker 1: in signing the guy Moses from the Washington football team.

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Speaker 1: They and it's like we said, I think the Bills

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Speaker 1: are gonna be a better football team, mostly because of

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Speaker 1: the offensive line depth and competition of the guys coming

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Speaker 1: back and buying for five starting spots. How about the

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Speaker 1: Steelers pivoting nicely, Kevin Colbert the GM down there with

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Speaker 1: a nice pivot because David DeCastro announces he's done, He's

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Speaker 1: going to retire, I think, after nine seasons in a

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Speaker 1: Steelers uniform, former first round pick out of Stanford, and

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Speaker 1: they're like, well, all right, we'll just sign Trey Turner,

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Speaker 1: you know, former multi pro Bowl guard who got released

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Speaker 1: by the LA Chargers as a cap casualty, and he

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Speaker 1: just think he just slides right into the guard position

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Speaker 1: vacated by de Castro. I mean, that's a heck of

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Speaker 1: a That's a heck of an a for b although

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Speaker 1: I still I think they're in a missive Villaineuava on

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Speaker 1: the edge yet. But but right now, the Steelers offensive

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Speaker 1: line has one returning starter from the year prior, and

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Speaker 1: in a much different scenario than the Bills had in

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, when they plugged in four new starters. Those

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Speaker 1: were coveted free agent players, you know, players that had

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Speaker 1: some skins on the wall in the league. This is

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Speaker 1: a veritable collection of players they've tried to groom on

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Speaker 1: their roster who are young and largely unproven. And even

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Speaker 1: the guy who's returning, who's Chuca Acora four, has a

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Speaker 1: limited number of starts in this league, and he's gonna

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Speaker 1: start at left tackle. So I'm not convinced that Steelers

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Speaker 1: oh line is going to have it all put together

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Speaker 1: when they play the Bills on opening weekend, and I'll

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Speaker 1: be happy if they don't, because that certainly enhances the

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Speaker 1: chances of the Bills getting off to a one to

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Speaker 1: no start, right And that's you know, got a long

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Speaker 1: way to go. We got a whole preseason to get

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Speaker 1: through before we get to that point. We got you know,

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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff is going to happen between now

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Speaker 1: and the next what is at seventy a seventy seven

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Speaker 1: days before we get to training camp listening day anyway,

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Speaker 1: And in fact, that's what our Twitter question is today about.

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Speaker 1: For the first time in two years, we're gonna actually

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Speaker 1: have some preseason football, and that's right did not last summer,

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Speaker 1: as we know. So we've got young, unproven players on

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Speaker 1: this roster, or some players who for whatever reason could

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Speaker 1: not get on the field maybe as much as they

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Speaker 1: had hoped last year. So we're asking you today who

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Speaker 1: will benefit the most from preseason games this summer. You

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Speaker 1: can pick anybody on the roster you want that you

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Speaker 1: believe will benefit the most by getting some preseason exposure.

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Speaker 1: Eight oh three oh five fifty one eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. We should also mention that

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Speaker 1: coming up later in the show, second hour of the program,

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Speaker 1: little over thirty minutes from now, we'll be talking with

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Speaker 1: ESPN Titans reporter to Ron Davenport, who actually covered the

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Speaker 1: tight end university camp. I guess i'll call it, for

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Speaker 1: lack of a better term, the NFL tight ends themselves,

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Speaker 1: led chiefly by George Kittle and Travis Kelsey, organized this

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Speaker 1: tight end summit, I guess would be a good way

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Speaker 1: to term it. Where all the tight ends in the league,

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Speaker 1: and who knows, maybe some amateur tight ends were allowed

515
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Speaker 1: to gather together in Nashville to kind of pick each

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Speaker 1: other's brains, learned some tricks of the trade. Younger players

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Speaker 1: from older players, etc. Etc. And he covered the event

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Speaker 1: since he was right down there in Nashville, and we

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Speaker 1: want to talk to him to see how things went,

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Speaker 1: knowing full well that Dawson Knox was there of the Bills,

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Speaker 1: because he had mentioned in a zoom interview with the

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Speaker 1: media up here during many Camp that it was his

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Speaker 1: intention to go attend that tight end summit together intel

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Speaker 1: on how to become a better player at this level

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Speaker 1: in the league as he enters and readies for his

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Speaker 1: third NFL season. So we're looking forward to talking to

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Speaker 1: Toronto about that. But we've got a lot on the

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Speaker 1: table for you. But eight oh three oh five fifty

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Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty open

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Speaker 1: line for you there for your choice as to what

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Speaker 1: player you feel will benefit the most from preseason games

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Speaker 1: this season. Did you have a guy that jumped out

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Speaker 1: to you immediately when you when you kind of thought

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Speaker 1: about that, a couple of them, you know. The one

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Speaker 1: that jumped out of me was Christian Wade because he's

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Speaker 1: a guy that really needs a lot of reps. And

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Speaker 1: I think at this point, with the free agency in

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Speaker 1: the way it's gone, he has to be considered a

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Speaker 1: long shot to hang in there just because of his

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Speaker 1: lack of experience and some of the and the chops

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Speaker 1: that the other guys in front of him have. That's

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Speaker 1: one who I thought, Yeah, that's a guy that needs it.

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Speaker 1: I think there's mothers as well, Like I would say

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Speaker 1: Dane Jackson UM all of those guys in the secondary

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Speaker 1: that number two corner all the corners. I think Dane

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Speaker 1: Jackson is one of those guys who the more opportunities

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Speaker 1: he gets to play, the more he will convince this

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Speaker 1: coaching staff that he should be on the field. More

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Speaker 1: concern with Dane isn't his abilities or his play. I

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Speaker 1: think it's his durability. Yeah, you think he's kind of wiring.

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Speaker 1: He's slight, not heavy, And I think and and it's

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Speaker 1: it's I'm probably oversimplifying it. In fact, I'm no, I

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Speaker 1: am it's oversimplification. But think about this. Smaller, lighter things

554
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Speaker 1: are usually more fragile. Yeah, and you're playing in a

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Speaker 1: league where everything is getting bigger and faster and stronger.

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Speaker 1: So if you're lighter, if you're a lost is there,

557
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Speaker 1: you're you're gonna get banged around and you're just not

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Speaker 1: up to whole name the heavier. And I noticed this

559
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Speaker 1: too as a player. When I was heavier, I was

560
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Speaker 1: more durable and stronger, I was more durable. I do

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Speaker 1: find it interesting though, that you have players in this

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Speaker 1: league that aren't necessarily super sturdy and stout, you know,

563
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Speaker 1: from a height weight standpoint, and they get through it.

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Speaker 1: Like look at White, what would you call him frame wise? Wow,

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Speaker 1: he's solid, solidly build Its huge, Yeah, but he's he's

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Speaker 1: been remarkably durable. What's he missed one or two games? Maybe?

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Speaker 1: If that? I get what you're saying. And there's always

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Speaker 1: exceptions to every rule. Hum and the I think the

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Speaker 1: advent and the evolution of the game has allowed smaller, slighter,

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Speaker 1: quicker guys to be able to contribute. It happened even

571
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Speaker 1: during my error when they said the five yard chuck

572
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Speaker 1: rule and you can only get him once down the field.

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Speaker 1: Because it used to be, like I say it all

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Speaker 1: the time, it used to be a bar fight with

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Speaker 1: these guys trying to release on a pass route and

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Speaker 1: get down the field. They were just you know, the

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Speaker 1: guy would just literally just be pulling the defenseless rules

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Speaker 1: receiver rule. Yeah, you don't get the lowering the helmet,

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Speaker 1: you know, you don't get the devastating collisions that you did,

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Speaker 1: you know, twenty years ago, twenty five years ago, And

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Speaker 1: that has opened a window where more and more guys

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Speaker 1: can stay healthy enough to contribute because they are healthy, healthier,

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Speaker 1: and which means there's the bar for the baseline for

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Speaker 1: what you absolutely have to be to even play and

585
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Speaker 1: have a shot has dropped because now you're not going

586
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Speaker 1: to get the punishment that you did once. So that

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Speaker 1: bar of being a guy. So you get more guys

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Speaker 1: that look like me that can play. They're my size,

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Speaker 1: that can play because they will be durable enough given

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Speaker 1: the circumstances of the game now. So there is a

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Speaker 1: little bit of that, and there are guys who can

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Speaker 1: make a niche for themselves, me being one of them obviously,

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Speaker 1: But there's always a premium on an enormous, strong, fast athlete.

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Speaker 1: You look at Megatron Calvin Johnson. He is a unicorn.

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Speaker 1: He was six five plus, could run a four to

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Speaker 1: three and he had a forty two in vertical. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he was. He was literally like one of the Avengers.

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Speaker 1: The guy had superpower. That's why they called the Megatron.

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Speaker 1: He was transform He was literally a comic book hero.

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Speaker 1: So there's always a quest for that just and it's

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Speaker 1: I don't want to here's another connect I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: just like josh Alan, the guy is physically off the charts.

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Speaker 1: And we'll have and we'll have something to offer on

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Speaker 1: that subject a little bit later on in the show.

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Speaker 1: But we want to know from me eight o fifty

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty who will benefit the most

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Speaker 1: from preseason games this year on this Bill's roster. Let

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Speaker 1: us know, open line for you or hit us up

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Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet back in a moment here on

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Line, presented by Kalata Health, It's Buffalo Bill's

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Speaker 1: with you here on a Monday, and we're talking about

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Speaker 1: who you feel will benefit the most from playing in

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Speaker 1: preseason games this year. There has been this influx of

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Speaker 1: youth on the Bill's roster over the last year or two,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of those players are largely unproven because

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Speaker 1: it's hard to get on the field on this roster.

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Speaker 1: Quite frankly so, no preseason games last year robbed some

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Speaker 1: and maybe convinced coaches, Hey, we got to find a

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Speaker 1: for a package of plays, a sub package role, whatever

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Speaker 1: it is. So now, with preseason games back this summer,

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Speaker 1: who do you think might benefit the most from getting

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Speaker 1: preseason snaps? Eight oh three five fifty the number to

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Speaker 1: call one eighty eight five fifty two five fifty the

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Speaker 1: toll free number, open line for you. But we want

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Speaker 1: to go to the tweet sheet, which, as we know,

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Speaker 1: off today is Nick, who thinks much the same way

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Speaker 1: we do. Steve, I think Dane Jackson has a lot

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Speaker 1: to gain from the preseason. He's shown he has starting potential,

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Speaker 1: so if he plays well in three live games against

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Speaker 1: real competition, he might be able to take the CB

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Speaker 1: two spot by week one. You know, preseason is gigantic

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Speaker 1: for him because Levi Wallace is the incumbent, he's proven,

638
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Speaker 1: and he stands in very good stead with the defense.

639
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Speaker 1: If coaching staff, what does it have to look like

640
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Speaker 1: for Dane Jackson? What level are we talking about it?

641
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Speaker 1: Just in general terms, so you know what you've got

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Speaker 1: in Levi Wallace. You know where the floor is and

643
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: it's and it's pretty high because he's a he's a

644
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Speaker 1: quality veteran guy with some experience. But the ceiling is low, right,

645
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Speaker 1: I mean, he's got a range. You're gonna get a

646
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Speaker 1: certain amount of play from him and you can count

647
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Speaker 1: on it and you can win games there. What does

648
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,280
Speaker 1: Dane Jackson have to do? First of all, one word consistency.

649
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: He's got to play well all the time. You can't

650
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Speaker 1: have a guy up there that's gonna take a playoff

651
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: because he'll get nicked. So is his consistency at a

652
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Speaker 1: level where you can trust it? And if the is

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Speaker 1: the floor as high as Levi Wallace and is the

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Speaker 1: ceiling higher or is the floor at least near where

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Speaker 1: Levi Wallace is now? Because if the floor is near

656
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Speaker 1: Levi Wallace and you believe he's all Dane Jackson needs

657
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: is more snaps and can get there, then you might

658
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Speaker 1: lean that way. If he shows the ability to make

659
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Speaker 1: plays on the ball that he did as a rookie

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00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: last year with limited opportunities. So I think two, you've

661
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: gotta know he's I get it. More snaps makes him

662
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 1: better YadA, YadA, YadA. But let me just say this.

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Speaker 1: You got a month of preseason to get there. If

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Speaker 1: you don't get there, Levi is gonna start until you do,

665
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Speaker 1: and you better play better than Levi to get on

666
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Speaker 1: the field. Now, we'll give you what you earn. But

667
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: there's your there's your job. And you know what's interesting,

668
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Speaker 1: this is a dynamic I don't think we've talked about,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure we will as we get into the

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Speaker 1: summer and closer two preseason. But forever it's been a

671
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Speaker 1: four game preseason and how has that worked? Starters barely

672
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Speaker 1: play Week one, play a little more Week two, tuneup

673
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 1: game is week three, and then week four. It's all

674
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Speaker 1: the second and third team is playing the whole game.

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Speaker 1: What happens now in three games is the tune up game?

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Speaker 1: Week two I think is the game because there's a

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Speaker 1: bye week. Yeah, I was gonna say, or is there

678
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Speaker 1: enough time between the third preseason game in the regular

679
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Speaker 1: season where you still keep it the same? I think?

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Speaker 1: I think you throw your starters out there in the

681
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Speaker 1: third game. It's has at home in this in this

682
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:14,280
Speaker 1: case this season, it's at home against Green Bay, and

683
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Speaker 1: you throw your starters out there for a full half

684
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Speaker 1: and then after a halftime as well. I think the

685
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Speaker 1: first couple of games, the young guys really really have

686
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Speaker 1: to spread their wings. And guys like Dane Jackson, to me,

687
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: they're no excuse. If you're gonna be out there for

688
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: the Bills defense, even the preseason, you're gonna know the call.

689
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: You're gonna be able to execute the call. You had

690
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: a whole year of it. This is like refresher so

691
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,760
Speaker 1: you should be able to play pretty fast and loose,

692
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Speaker 1: and you know, as disciplined as you feel you need

693
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Speaker 1: to be to make a play. But that's it. So

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Speaker 1: guys like Dane Jackson or sitting in a spot where

695
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Speaker 1: not too many people and could ask for a better one,

696
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Speaker 1: this is this is a shot he's got because he's

697
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Speaker 1: gonna get some reps in the preseason. If Levi Wallace

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Speaker 1: is the number one, Dane Jackson is gonna get a

699
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Speaker 1: look in games against real competition, and you gotta be

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Speaker 1: ready for that. You gotta be ready for that. I

701
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Speaker 1: think Levi Wallace is one of those guys that at

702
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Speaker 1: this point has earned the right to take eight or

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Speaker 1: ten snaps with the number ones and sit down for

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Speaker 1: the season, for the game in the preseason. Let's go

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Speaker 1: to the phones. Eight oh three, oh five fifty one

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Speaker 1: eighty eight five fifty two five fifty still an open

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Speaker 1: line for you there. But leading us off today is

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Speaker 1: TJ on a cell phone. TJ, who do you have

709
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Speaker 1: for us? You're on one Bill's Live. Well, it's kind

710
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: of a kind of two people, just the way the

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Speaker 1: depth of a rosterius. But I'm gonna say Isaiah Hodgins

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Speaker 1: first of all, just how we impressed last year training

713
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Speaker 1: camp or had an injury. And then Jake from you know,

714
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Speaker 1: whether they're going to keep two or three quarterbacks. You

715
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Speaker 1: may depend on how many receivers are going to keep.

716
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Speaker 1: But I think you know, Isaiah Hodgins impressing in practice,

717
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Speaker 1: him boy out there and showing something during preseason could

718
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Speaker 1: be fighting for a roster spot. Yeah, I like that, TJ.

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Speaker 1: I think your phone might be breaking up, so I'm

720
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Speaker 1: gonna let you go there. But thanks for the call. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I like Isaiah Hodgens. He's a name that I wrote

722
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Speaker 1: down on my list. He was right at the top

723
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Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, because I think this was

724
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Speaker 1: a guy that was robbed of an opportunity everybody got

725
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: every rookie got robbed of an opportunity last year with

726
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 1: no preseason to show their wares in a game like setting. Heck,

727
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Speaker 1: there was a ramp up period where you didn't even

728
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Speaker 1: get into pads and training camp because of the long

729
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: layoff due to the pandemic. So everything was out of

730
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Speaker 1: whack last year. And then Hodgens really didn't get to

731
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Speaker 1: hone his skills even during the season as a practice

732
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: squad player what have you, because of the impending shoulder surgery,

733
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Speaker 1: because he was in and out in terms of availability

734
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: because that shoulder kept popping loose, and then they eventually said, hey,

735
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Speaker 1: let's shut it down. So yeah, I think he's a

736
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Speaker 1: good candidate for this. And the from one is a

737
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: little more interesting though, Steve, Yeah, I don't know what.

738
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Speaker 1: I think that preseason exposure might expose what he can

739
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: and cannot do in a not so advantageous way for him.

740
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Speaker 1: That's my fear for him. Yeah. I here's the problem

741
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: with a guy like Jake from when he gets out

742
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: there and starts throwing the ball, who are you going

743
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: to compare him, to compare him to your starter, how

744
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: you run the offense compared to our first guy and

745
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: from can't do that? And how are you gonna do it? Well?

746
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Speaker 1: In conjunction with how's he look next to Mitch Trubisky

747
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: the same? Yeah, and that is an uphill battle. From's only,

748
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: in my opinion, his hope for hanging in here another

749
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 1: year in Buffalo is support staff for the quarterbacks in

750
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Speaker 1: one and two? And what's between the years? How he

751
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 1: sees the game and can communic with those guys? And

752
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: can he be a liaison between the starting quarterback, the

753
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Speaker 1: number two quarterback and the quarterback coach and the offensive coordinator.

754
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Speaker 1: Can he add something to the mix? Does he do

755
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: the extra bit? Or do they need a camp arm? Yeah?

756
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 1: I guess, but From should be. I mean they've got

757
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: Davis Webb as well. Ye, Davis Webb has a better arm.

758
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: What's Jake From bring that Davis Webb doesn't? Who is

759
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: known as being a player's coach? You know, almost up

760
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,959
Speaker 1: the play scripts when they ran the player only camp

761
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: in South Florida last summer. You talk and I'll say this,

762
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: and same thing with your boy Isaiah Hodgens, and I

763
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: like him, I'm excited to see him play. But they're

764
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: in a room full of guys. Man, they're in a

765
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: room full of talented, high profile, star kind of guys.

766
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Speaker 1: Their best scenario for themselves is just to hang around

767
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 1: on the practice squad or the bottom of the rock.

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Speaker 1: Somehow get on there. That's their best case scenario. I

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00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,240
Speaker 1: think there is a realistic possibility that this team carries

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00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: seven receivers. I, however, do not see them carrying more

771
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: than two quarterbacks. I think they'll they'll have one on

772
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: the practice squad, sure, but I don't see the backs

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00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: on this roster, especially if you have to keep seven

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00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: receivers on the fifty three right. Yeah, on the fifty

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00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: three right. And there are some places you can go

776
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 1: up and down, but these number, those numbers, you know, vacillate.

777
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: You get like you get twenty five guys on a side,

778
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: twenty five offense, twenty five defense. You go one way

779
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: or the other with him because you got a kicker, punter,

780
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: and special teams and a snapper. Those are your three

781
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: of your fifty three. The rest of the fifty are

782
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball on the line of scrimmage.

783
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 1: You got to divvy those up pretty judiciously. And some

784
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: guys like Jake from and Isaiah Hodgens and other guys

785
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: are like, I don't know where you're gonna put them.

786
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: Tough roster to make this year, there's no question about it.

787
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: Maybe the toughest it's been in a long, long time.

788
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Speaker 1: Break time for us here, Tom and Lancaster, Dave in Florida.

789
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: Hang tight, we'll get to you when we return. So

790
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 1: we're asking who will benefit the most on this Bill's

791
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: roster from playing preseason games this summer. You let us

792
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: know at eight five fifty. We'll be back in a

793
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Speaker 1: couple of minutes. Stay tuned, Welcome back to One Bill's Live.

794
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, asking you which Bill's

795
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: player will benefit the most by playing preseason games later

796
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: this summer. Three on the slate this year, we want

797
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: to go back to the phones to get your thoughts

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Speaker 1: at eight three five fifty and leading us off this

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Speaker 1: segment is Tom and Lancaster. Tom, who do you have

800
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Speaker 1: for us? You're on One Bill's Live. Tommy, you're there?

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00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 1: Do you mean Allan and Lanka? I can hear you now? Tom?

802
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: Go ahead? Can you hear me? Yes? This is Allan

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Speaker 1: and lank Alan. Sorry I was told it was talent

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00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: go ahead, Alan, that's me okay. I'm colly in regard

805
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 1: to not only the issue of the question of the day,

806
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,720
Speaker 1: but also the Bill's most pressing need over the last

807
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 1: three years, that draft is continually focused on getting someone

808
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: who can rush the passer, and this year, this year

809
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: they went all out and was number one and number two,

810
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: but last year was at aj F Panessa Efanessa had

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Speaker 1: no preseason, had a postseason to get some experience, but

812
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: I think most people think he was somewhat disappointing in

813
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: terms of what they hoped for. He has to prove

814
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: himself and show this year that he's better at the

815
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Speaker 1: start of the season than the number one and number

816
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: two that they drafted this year Russeau and Bashama. He

817
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: needs to show that the year experience meant something and

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00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 1: that he has accomplished something and he's more ready than

819
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Speaker 1: they are because he's with just the same draft level

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Speaker 1: pick as them. So I think the pressure is on

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Speaker 1: him to do something. Yeah, I mean, I'm not terribly

822
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Speaker 1: worried about him taking a step And Alan, thanks for

823
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: the call. We appreciate your point though, Alan, but it's

824
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 1: totally valid. I mean, there's two guys that are going

825
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: to be given every opportunity to show they're better than

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Speaker 1: aj So. AJ, to his credit, to his own credit,

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Speaker 1: spent the balance of the off season here in Buffalo

828
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Speaker 1: working with the strength and conditioning coach or the head

829
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Speaker 1: strength and conditioning coach, Eric Siano, to get his body

830
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Speaker 1: composition right. Leslie Frasier has been singing Epins's praises for

831
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Speaker 1: preparing himself for his second NFL season. He thinks it's

832
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Speaker 1: a night and day difference in terms of how aj

833
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,720
Speaker 1: came into the off season program this spring as opposed

834
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Speaker 1: to post draft as a rookie last spring, and I

835
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Speaker 1: think it will make a difference for him on the field.

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Speaker 1: I think he will get the benefit of the doubt

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Speaker 1: in terms of the opportunities unless Russo or Basham lighted

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00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,439
Speaker 1: up and you know, look like a house on fire

839
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Speaker 1: out there on the practice field and training camp. He

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Speaker 1: makes a good point, though, two years ago it was

841
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Speaker 1: at Oliver top ten pick. Yeah. Now then it was

842
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: Aj Eponessa. Now it's Greg Russo and Boogie Basham, Carlos Basham.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they are throwing some draft capital at the

844
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Speaker 1: pass rush, and the more they throw at it, the

845
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Speaker 1: first ammunition they used, which was the at Oliver pick

846
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Speaker 1: and then the Apes. Those guys, I mean, if they

847
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Speaker 1: if they don't step up, they got people ready to

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Speaker 1: step up in their place. They're gonna they're gonna cut bait.

849
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: I mean, they're listen, They're gonna move on. They they

850
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: wouldn't be drafted more guys at your position if they

851
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: thought you were gonna be who they thought you were

852
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: gonna be. Well, let's not forget too that you've got

853
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,879
Speaker 1: two players to age thirty plus who started at those

854
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: two positions on the ends last year. They're still here

855
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 1: now in the form of Mario Addison and Jerry Hughes.

856
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: Are those two players going to be here next year?

857
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: I think that's largely predicated on how they perform this

858
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 1: season and if they feel that the young players are

859
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: coming on and can eventually be better, Well, maybe they're

860
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,720
Speaker 1: not here in twenty twenty two for the time being,

861
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: though they are, and AJ's got to prove a that

862
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 1: he's better than one of those two guys to get

863
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: on the field, and b he's good enough to keep

864
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 1: the guys nipping at his heels behind him on the

865
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: depth chart that he's in a very interesting spot. In

866
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: terms of his own player development number one and in

867
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: terms of holding off the competition number two. So a

868
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: good call there from Alan, and we thank you for it.

869
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: Let's go to Dave in Florida next. Dave, what do

870
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: you have for us? You're on one Bill's Live. How

871
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: you doing? How was your fishing? Pretty good? I wish

872
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 1: it was better. I did better. But okay, all right,

873
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 1: we'll come on down here to do some sale fishing.

874
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 1: Now we're talking about bigger stuff, but yeah, maybe all right, listen,

875
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: I'm still on this Russo, Okay, okay, Russo. This kid,

876
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: this kid is good. I'm telling you. I watched um

877
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 1: and follow him. This kid could stop help that defensive

878
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: runs stop, and he can knocked down in the passes

879
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: like I told you once before. But everybody already got

880
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: in front of me, just jumped me on my My

881
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: Guys day shows. The guys watch watching for him if

882
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 1: he gets shot. Thanks a lot, and good luck fishing.

883
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: Thanks day, Yeah, thanks day. Appreciate it's interesting too. And

884
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 1: I you know, I don't know, it's maybe TuS White,

885
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: maybe Tremaine. How long has it been since we had

886
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 1: a first high draft pick or somebody who just started

887
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: day one. Well that or from the day first day

888
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: of training camp OTAs or where it's like, wow, look

889
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: at this, we can't wait to see this. That was

890
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: the case with Trudevious because by the time we got

891
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: out of spring camp, it's like, this guy's gonna start.

892
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 1: He's the first guy. Yeah, so like Leslie Frazier said

893
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: that right out of spring, so that would probably be it.

894
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 1: And he's and Tredevius and what fifth year, well, and Tremaine,

895
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: as you mentioned right, Tremaine was the other guy because

896
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: they didn't have anybody else though that it was different.

897
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: It was different. How how particularly on this roster, how

898
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: good is a kid gonna have to be to explode

899
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: onto the scene and go They're like going, we can't

900
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: keep him off the field. He's got to be on

901
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 1: the field for us. That's that's huge, particularly since you

902
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: know when Turdevius did it, he did it for a

903
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: team that had been a seventeen year drought and couldn't

904
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: get out of its own way for a long time,

905
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: and it was, you know, we were just competitive and

906
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: nothing else. And you know, to get on that roster

907
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: is very different than this roster. And I don't know that.

908
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying Greg Russo won't do it. I'm

909
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: not saying Boogie Basham can't do it or any the

910
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: other draft anybody. But you do it on this roster,

911
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,720
Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, people will sit up and go, wow,

912
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: that's that's pretty good, even given the fact that this

913
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: isn't like a top two pass rushing team. But coming

914
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: in and turning heads in a training camp like this

915
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 1: one on a team with high expectations like this one

916
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: coming out of even even if you're their top draft pick,

917
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 1: that's hard to do. It's very hard to do. And

918
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 1: if he does it, awesome, But I would caution, I

919
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 1: would sprinkle some caution into that because this is a

920
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: This is not a roster that Trdavious White hit and turdevious.

921
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: White was also a three year starter at LSU, right

922
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 1: Rousseau as tantalizing as his skills are. One year starter,

923
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: you know, he dominated, He dominated, but one year starter

924
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: and now jumping up to a very very different level

925
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: of football after skipping a year. Right, So we'll have

926
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 1: to see where the learning curve is for him when

927
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 1: we get to training camp. Break time for us here

928
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,280
Speaker 1: when we come back though, we're gonna get a little

929
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: inside look at just what went on at the tight End.

930
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: You the summit that NFL tight Ends had in Nashville

931
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:17,320
Speaker 1: this past week because Tehron Davenport, ESPN NFL Titans reporter

932
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: was there covered it, wrote a story about it on

933
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 1: ESPN dot com. We're talking to him next here on

934
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health. It's Buffalo Bill's

935
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 1: Radio at a Steve Tasker who has been all over

936
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: the fields. Kind of unique. He was kind of a

937
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: dual role player for you, Stave, Steve a blimp. We're

938
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: not even in the strategy year of normalcy here. Welcome

939
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: to our number two of One Bill's Live. Chris Brown,

940
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you, and please to be joined now

941
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: by the ESPN Tennessee Titans beat reporter. But talking about

942
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:21,439
Speaker 1: going the extra mile seeking out stories during the dead

943
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 1: period of the NFL calendar, one Tron Davenport was doing

944
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 1: that recently as he decided, Hey, this tight End University thing,

945
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: this summit of sorts is taking place right down the

946
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 1: street from me, I ain't go see what's going on,

947
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 1: And he wrote about it on ESPN dot com and

948
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 1: we wanted to talk to him about it as well.

949
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: Knowing the Bills tight end Dawson Knox was there, he

950
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 1: didn't have to travel far either. See's a Tennessee native.

951
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 1: But Toron, how are you doing, man? Thanks for giving

952
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 1: us some time today. We appreciate it. Oh no, I

953
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,879
Speaker 1: appreciate you guys. Man. Thanks for having me on. Man,

954
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 1: there's no bad days. We woke up this morning, so

955
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: we got a w all right, right, that's a good

956
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: point by you. I gotta ask you too, what what

957
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 1: when you talk about this tight end thing and happened

958
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: down in Nashville? What was your first impression when you

959
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: got down there? And I you know what grabbed you

960
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: about this tight teu? Why wasn't it just a bunch

961
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: of guys going out, maybe going out to dinner a

962
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: couple of times they were on the field, run around

963
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: a little bit. What did they You know? How good

964
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: was this? And your impression? It was really good? In fact,

965
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: it was awesome. It was spectacular. And what really grabbed

966
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 1: me was just the willingness to share trade secrets. You know,

967
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,240
Speaker 1: back in your day playing it was hey, everybody was enemies,

968
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: but now you know, these guys were willing to just

969
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: dive into their whole tool box of things, whether it's

970
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey talking about separation at the top of the

971
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 1: route and being able to kind of be like a

972
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:48,280
Speaker 1: picture and explode off of the mound as you're exploding

973
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 1: back to the football towards the quarterback. So it's just

974
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: it was just the details of it. You know. I

975
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: was able to get right on top of Kelsey as

976
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: he was explaining some things, and it just I love

977
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 1: man and George Kittle explaining different things. At the release point,

978
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: you got Darren Waller talking about keying in on the

979
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 1: football and catching it and not turning and running before

980
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: you secure the ball. It was it was a great

981
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 1: opportunity to watch these guys, even an older guy like

982
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: Delaney Walker come back and talk about releases, Greg Olsen,

983
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: just everything that they were able to do, and so

984
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 1: much of the stuff it made sense and it registered.

985
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: So it was really good to see these guys actually

986
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: talk behind what we've seen them do on Sundays now

987
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:36,280
Speaker 1: for you, Steve. Unfortunately there was Keith mckeller or Pete

988
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: Messelhart sighting, but you know, I did get to see

989
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: Dawson Knox and he was here yeah. And you know,

990
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: I find this interesting to ron because I don't think

991
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 1: it's it's mentioned enough. But there is an offensive line

992
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 1: group of sorts that does this thing. And I guess

993
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: some of these other position groups that have done this

994
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: is what kind of spawned the idea on the part

995
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: of Kittle, And he invited Greg Olson, and Olsen said,

996
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: just make it a party, man, bring everybody down. But

997
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 1: I want to ask you just what is your take

998
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:15,439
Speaker 1: on the willingness of veteran players in such a cutthroat

999
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: sport as NFL football at this level. What does it

1000
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: say that there are guys willing to pour into younger

1001
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: players who play the very same position they do in

1002
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: the very same league. What does that say about about

1003
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 1: the group as a whole. Well, Chris, what it tells

1004
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: us is that this game is in solid hands, it's

1005
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,240
Speaker 1: in great hands. And when you have a Greg Olsen

1006
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: just going into detail as far as how to set

1007
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 1: somebody up, when you have you know Luke Stocker, who's

1008
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,280
Speaker 1: not a well known guy, but he's a ferocious blocker

1009
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: for the Atlantic Falcons. When he's talking about how to

1010
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,240
Speaker 1: block and do things right, Jordan Matthew is a former

1011
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: Buffalo bill I broke it last week that he was

1012
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:02,280
Speaker 1: converting to ty. He was there and you have him

1013
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: working with IRV Smith Junior and guys like Evan Ingram

1014
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 1: just learning how to as a receiver right, you know,

1015
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,240
Speaker 1: you're looking down the line and you're keying on the ball,

1016
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 1: but as a tight end you're not doing that. And

1017
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: just little things like that that these guys are sharing

1018
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: and learning. I think that was that was really significant,

1019
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 1: And like I said, it wasn't any problem as far

1020
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: as being able to you know, everybody's gunning for right.

1021
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: There's there's two Pro Bowl all pro positions right and

1022
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: four Pro Bowl positions at tight end. You know everybody's

1023
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 1: gunning for that. But they're still willing to share. And

1024
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 1: then another thing you mentioned the cutthrow business. When you

1025
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 1: look at what the Broncos did with Juan James, he

1026
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: was working out outside of the facility and you know

1027
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 1: he got released and lost a lot of money. But

1028
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:51,479
Speaker 1: these guys were still willing to risk that. And you never,

1029
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: you know, want to put a guy in a bad

1030
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,359
Speaker 1: situation the injury wise or anything like that. But they

1031
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: were still wanting to go out there and they were

1032
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 1: getting it for real. It wasn't a walk through or

1033
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: anything like that. What are some of the things that guys.

1034
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: Was it only pro tight ends? Were there any division

1035
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 1: one of it, you know, tight ends or prospects that

1036
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: were there? I know Kyle Pitts was there as well,

1037
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 1: the new draft pick of the Atlanta Factors. Was he

1038
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 1: maybe the youngest guy that was there? He was, He

1039
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 1: was the youngest guy. There weren't any college tight ends

1040
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: or anything like that. It was just for the pros

1041
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 1: and it was just an opportunity for them to make

1042
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 1: each other better and that was the goal right move

1043
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:34,399
Speaker 1: the tight end position forward. And George Kittle I asked

1044
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,800
Speaker 1: him if he's kind of upset at how that position

1045
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: is undervalued, and he said just that that was they

1046
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 1: wanted just as a whole, as a unit, just make

1047
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 1: that position something that has more respect on its name,

1048
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 1: so to speak. So Ran, the most interesting part of

1049
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,399
Speaker 1: your write up I found was something that I've heard

1050
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: before in my years covering the league. You know, when

1051
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: you have young players trying to master their position or

1052
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 1: mastered their playbook at their given position, sometimes they're hesitant

1053
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: to lead on in the form of a question to

1054
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:11,800
Speaker 1: their coaches that they may not have something some nuance

1055
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:15,359
Speaker 1: of the position mastered, and they're afraid to reveal that

1056
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 1: to their coaches in the form of a question, be

1057
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 1: it in a meeting room, on the field of practice,

1058
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: what have you. That goes away when you're dealing with

1059
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: peers and you can ask those kinds of questions. I

1060
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: get the sense that you felt that guys were very

1061
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: free and easy with their give and take in terms

1062
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: of questions and answers because that coaching element was not present. Yeah. Absolutely,

1063
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: and the guys were taking opportunities to just pair up

1064
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: during different periods that I was there, and they paired

1065
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 1: up and they were working one on one, and you

1066
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 1: really got to see them just kind of go back

1067
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 1: and forth, you know, this is what I do in

1068
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 1: this situation, like we'll have this call and when they

1069
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 1: called this, I'm from here, Like it was just like that,

1070
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,439
Speaker 1: just just seeing and I think that was great to see.

1071
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: And it's the truth, right, You never want to look

1072
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 1: like you don't know what you're doing in front of

1073
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: your instructive or your coach or your teacher or anything

1074
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: like that. So when you're among your peers, it's a

1075
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 1: lot easier to go to them, and then you have

1076
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 1: that aspect, and I know Bill Belichick is probably the

1077
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: best coach ever. I don't know that that's really a dispute. However,

1078
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: when you have someone that has played the position and

1079
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 1: been in the shoes as you've been there and understands

1080
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 1: exactly what it is that you know you're thinking, I

1081
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: think when it comes to that, there's just a different

1082
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: level of understanding and teaching that is present. And that's

1083
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: really what I saw on Thursday when I was there,

1084
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: when those guys paired off. Did they try to pair

1085
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 1: off being players of similar ability? I guess, for lack

1086
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: of a better description, like Luke Stocker wasn't going with

1087
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts because there's things that Luke Stocker can do

1088
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: that Kyle Pitts can't do in vice versus, so that

1089
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: they try to match up skill sets as best as

1090
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: possible when they did pair off, right, great point, they

1091
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 1: did that. George Kittle and t J. Hockinson worked together

1092
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 1: a lot. M George Kittle and Robert Tonga, they were

1093
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: from the Packers, they worked together, so yes, to your point,

1094
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 1: they did try to match up with guys that they

1095
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 1: could actually learn from and actually relate to. And that's

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00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 1: one of the things that Georgian Matthews told me he

1097
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: wanted to watch IRV Smith Junior and Evan Ingram because

1098
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 1: he felt that their body types are the same and

1099
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 1: they're asked to do a lot of similar things that

1100
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: he projects himself being able to ask to Duke. We're

1101
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 1: on the line with toront Davenport ESPN, NFL Nation Titans reporter.

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Speaker 1: We get into the offseason the Bills. It seems like

1103
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 1: the Bills and Titans face each other every year nowadays, right,

1104
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 1: I mean so and last year, you know it was

1105
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 1: it was the COVID game on a Tuesday night. That was,

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00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 1: you know, kind of the centerpiece of that, you know,

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00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 1: the latest bit of that rivalry. Give us a little

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00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 1: insight into the Titans this last offseason. You know, they

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00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 1: acquired Julio Jones in the trade. Everybody knows about that

1110
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 1: was spla she moved. Give us some of your insights

1111
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 1: as to the how their offseason has gone, with that

1112
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Speaker 1: obviously being the cherry on top of the cake. Well, yeah,

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01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,919
Speaker 1: we're gonna start with the Julio Jones situation. And it's

1114
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 1: I love to see it just because it allows more

1115
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 1: eyes to go on my work, you know, for selfish reasons,

1116
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 1: I like to see that. But you know the thing

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01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,959
Speaker 1: that really excited me about Julio Jones was him going

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01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: out there and working with the younger receivers. And I'm

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01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 1: talking about from day one right involuntary workouts. He was

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Speaker 1: there the first opportunity that he had. In fact, he

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01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: called Mike Rabe one and told him he was coming

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01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 1: in on a Wednesday. He was practicing on Thursday, and

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01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 1: you saw him out there just taking the guys aside,

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01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 1: a young receiver, like saying, making some kinzie on drafted

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01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: free agent that they signed last year, and just going

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01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 1: over things and just giving them tips. It was really

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01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 1: good to see that. And then just the willingness to

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Speaker 1: accept coaching. I saw Todd Downing, the offensive coordinator working

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01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 1: with him. I saw Rob Moore working with him, and

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Speaker 1: even Ryan Tannet. After a play, you know, I saw

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01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 1: him kind of go make this motion to kind of

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01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 1: tell him the wide and out a route in a

1133
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 1: layered combo that they had so he would pull the

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01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 1: linebacker out of the way and the receiver on the

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01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 1: cross could catch it a lot a lot easier. And

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01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 1: in fact, they went back to it a little bit

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01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 1: later and it worked. So that was really exciting to

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01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 1: see that. Defensively, there are some things right. Budd Free

1139
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 1: was the biggest signing free agent wise, and Caleb Farley

1140
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 1: was the biggest edition draft wise, neither of which were

1141
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 1: out there, so training camp looking forward to seeing those guys.

1142
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you one guy that was out there,

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01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 1: and that's Genori's Jenkins Jack Rapp, and he was really

1144
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 1: impressive and you could tell why he plays the way

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01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 1: he does because he practices hard every rep. One thing

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01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 1: I got to ask you too, does the Julio Jones

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01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 1: acquisition kind of overshadow or kind of fill in? I

1148
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 1: know they played different positions, but you lost John nu

1149
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 1: Smith this last offseason. Does Julio kind of level that

1150
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 1: back out for Ryan Tannehill in the offense? It does?

1151
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 1: It does because the thing that they have now they

1152
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 1: have three receivers and Josh Reynolds, but they added from

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01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 1: the Rams and A J. Brown who I mean yards

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01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 1: after the catch. He's probably one of the one of

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01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 1: the at least top three, right, and then you mixed

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01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 1: Julio Jones into us. So now you've got three guys

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01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 1: that you could move across the formation. So when they

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01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 1: played the Bills right and trade Davis White is in

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01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 1: cat coverage, you know, you could say, Okay, well maybe

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01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 1: our matchup is better in the slot, so we're gonna

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01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 1: move a J. Browning to the slot. That's kind of

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01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 1: what the coaching staff could say, so it gives him

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01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 1: that advantage. I think losing Jonald Smith is definitely a

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01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 1: big blow though, because he was under underappreciated as far

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Speaker 1: as across the league as a blocker, and that's the issue.

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01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 1: Anthony Ferkster, who out of Harvard. You know, he's he's

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01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 1: more of a catching, a pass catching receiver, tight end

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01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,439
Speaker 1: type of guy. But they're working to get him in line.

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01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 1: I've noticed that his body, his lower body is much bigger,

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01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 1: so you're going to need that plane in line, and

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Speaker 1: I just want to see how that adjustment works. But

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Speaker 1: I expect to see them in an awful out of

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01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 1: eleven personnel. What level of curiosity should we have here,

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01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 1: because I have a lot in terms of what Todd

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01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 1: Downing is going to do with the identity of this offense.

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01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody just I think naturally assumes it's still

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Speaker 1: going to run through Derrick Henry. But then you see

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Speaker 1: the addition of Julio, you see the vertical thread added

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01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 1: in Josh Reynolds, and you're like, well, I wonder if

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01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 1: they got something else in mind. Now, maybe they're gonna

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01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 1: ride Tannehill's arm a little bit more. As you know,

1182
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry creeps closer and closer to that age twenty eight,

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01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 1: which everybody sees as the stop sign for running backs

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01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 1: in the NFL. I think Henry might be a unicorn

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01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 1: in that category, but that's to be seen. What do

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Speaker 1: you think the chances are? I mean, you just mentioned

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Speaker 1: eleven personnel, but what do you think the chances are

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01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 1: turn that this identity of this offense under downing, at

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01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 1: the very least, is tweaked or maybe even changed in

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01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 1: a much different way than we're used to seeing the

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01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 1: last several years. Well, I'll start with this. We're football

1192
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 1: fans and analysts and media. We're borrowing Derek Henry from

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Speaker 1: another planet. Like that guy is just he's different. And

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01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 1: when you have that in your backfield, you have to

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01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 1: use it and use it to as much as you can.

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Speaker 1: So I say all that to say, and Mike Rabel

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Speaker 1: has actually echoed this they're not going to change just

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Speaker 1: because Julio Jones was at and I think when you

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Speaker 1: add Julio Jones, it gives you more physicality in the

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Speaker 1: passing game, which as a defensive coach, defensive minded coach,

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Speaker 1: that's what you want, physicality throughout right, and that's something

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Speaker 1: that they have. I think it's gonna somewhat change though,

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01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 1: because Arthur Smith, the former OC, one of the things

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Speaker 1: that I always was intrigued about with him was his unwilling,

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01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 1: just dedication to the running game. It'll be the fourth quarter,

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01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 1: they'll be down two scores and they'll go shoot to

1207
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 1: shoot and just run the football and take control of

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Speaker 1: the game the momentum, and it's just crazy. You don't

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01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 1: normally see that, especially in this day and age where

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01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 1: everybody's so pass happening. So I think that's going to

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Speaker 1: change a little bit, but for the most part, it's

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Speaker 1: still gonna be a very similar offense. And that's why

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Speaker 1: tied down and got the job, because he is the

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Speaker 1: guy that was already in the midst as far as

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Speaker 1: the tight ends coach, and he was involved with some

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01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 1: things in red zone and those types of install goal

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Speaker 1: line packages and stuff like that, so you are really

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Speaker 1: getting an extension of Arthur Smith. But obviously every play

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01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 1: caller has different timing and those type of things, so

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Speaker 1: we'll see how it works. One thing I will say

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Speaker 1: with Todd downing, that kind of makes me think they're

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Speaker 1: going to run the football more. He and I've talked

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Speaker 1: to him about this. He's for defensive mind to head

1224
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 1: coaches before. In fact, he was right there in Minnesota

1225
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Speaker 1: when John D. Filippo got fired. He was the OC

1226
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 1: and he got fired from not balancing the offense enough

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01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 1: and they wanted to get down football and it wasn't

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Speaker 1: happening enough, so he got fired. So he saw firsthand

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Speaker 1: what can happen if you don't do what the coach

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01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 1: wants you to do, especially a defensive money. And we've

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Speaker 1: we've sat here and from up here, I mean from

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Speaker 1: everybody outside of Tennessee looking down there, they see Derrick

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Speaker 1: Henry's got three hundred and ninety seven touches last year,

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Speaker 1: only nineteen receptions and three hundred and seventy eight carries,

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Speaker 1: And you're right to do that year after And it's

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01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 1: not the first time either. He's got to be from

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01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 1: another planet to come back and just have the same

1238
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 1: appetite for that contact. And that's really the cruxt of it.

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01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 1: It comes down to him and his ability to carry

1240
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 1: the rock that often and be that productive these you know,

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Speaker 1: are there any signs at all that that could change. No,

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Speaker 1: there aren't signs. And I tell you a quick story

1243
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Speaker 1: about Derrick Henry that just really impressed me. And it

1244
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 1: was it was last year in fact, during training camp,

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Speaker 1: and it typically when the special team's period is going on,

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Speaker 1: that's your expertise, Steve, you know, but when when guys

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Speaker 1: like you are out there doing their thing, typically guys

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Speaker 1: like Derrick Henry are on the on the side and

1249
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 1: just getting a breather or you know, getting water whatever. Well,

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Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, what I saw him do, he took his

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01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 1: pads off, you know, his shoulder pads off, took his

1252
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 1: shirt off, and went over to the sandpit and he's

1253
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 1: getting a sandpit work up in the middle of practice.

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01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 1: And then when it's time to go back to team period,

1255
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 1: there he is right there to take the first breath.

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Speaker 1: Other times i've seen him, as you mentioned the nineteen receptions.

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Speaker 1: Obviously that's an area for improvement, and I've seen him

1258
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 1: with the running backs coach Tony Duds running up and

1259
01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 1: down the field in every five yards, you know, he's

1260
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 1: catched over the shoulder or he's planting and driving back

1261
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 1: to the football and they're they're doing that. So you know,

1262
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 1: it's there's a reason why he's able to do the

1263
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,919
Speaker 1: things that he does because a lot of the things

1264
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 1: that he does in preparation are very unique. At least

1265
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 1: in the four teams that I've felt it. I've never

1266
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 1: seen a running back do a sand pit workout in

1267
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 1: the middle of practice, let alone after practice. So for me,

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01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 1: that that stands out. And you say, a lot of

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01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:29,719
Speaker 1: carries in your right, but a lot of those carries

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01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 1: that he's not getting, Like I could go back to

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01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen and count maybe four or five times he

1272
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 1: was actually smacked. And you know, that's a good thing

1273
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 1: for a running back to not have to absorb so

1274
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 1: much hits. That's stiff for him. That he's done so much.

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01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 1: He and Tony Doos and Mike Rabell have done so

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01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 1: much to to just kind of perfect that helps him

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01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 1: avoid contact. So I don't see a reason why he

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01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 1: can't continue to do that. At some point, Yeah, he

1279
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:58,760
Speaker 1: is going to slow down, but when you're doing the

1280
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 1: type of workouts that he's one. Also, it's it's just

1281
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:05,720
Speaker 1: a yields different results. Last one for me Toron is

1282
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 1: their defense. I mean, I know they made some additions

1283
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 1: in the front seven, you know, like de Nico Autre

1284
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 1: free agency, still have Harold Landry, but they said goodbye

1285
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 1: to some people and in the secondary where they've had

1286
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 1: almost an overhaul with the exception of buyerd. Uh, they're

1287
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 1: gonna be. It looks like they're depending on some players

1288
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 1: that just don't have the same resume that we're used

1289
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 1: to seeing in that Titan secondary. How much do you

1290
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 1: anticipate and I know camp battles have to play out

1291
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:38,720
Speaker 1: here as well as preseason, but how much do you

1292
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,879
Speaker 1: think they're cann probably be depending on some unproven players

1293
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 1: to play some significant roles this season on the back

1294
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 1: end of that defense. Oh, they're gonna dependent. There's a

1295
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:53,679
Speaker 1: lot And after giving up thirty six passing touchdowns, which

1296
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 1: was the second worst in the league, they got it.

1297
01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 1: They yeah has gone. Malcolm Butler was gone, but Dorry

1298
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 1: Jackson was gone, so now all of your experience was going.

1299
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 1: They did a good job of bringing in Jack Rabbit

1300
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 1: Jenkins but then you go to Christian Foot and the

1301
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 1: second year player out of LSU, who was very good

1302
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:15,639
Speaker 1: as a prospect, dealt with a lot of injuries last year.

1303
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 1: I talked to him over the weekend and he's ready

1304
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 1: to go, so you'll have him at right corner. Kayleb Farley,

1305
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 1: the back situation is definitely something to watch. But when healthy,

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01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:30,439
Speaker 1: that guy is he's something special when healthy. And Elijah

1307
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:34,719
Speaker 1: Molden out of Washington, I still I don't fully understand

1308
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 1: how he was available at pick one hundred, but that

1309
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 1: was a great value for them. He's going to work

1310
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:41,720
Speaker 1: in the nickel a lot. Christian Foot end up being

1311
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 1: the nickel as well, so they'll have a nice rotation

1312
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 1: and that's important. And then safety wise, a Mone Hooker,

1313
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 1: he led the team and receptions last year and he's

1314
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 1: taking over as a starter. And then talking to him,

1315
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 1: he said he doesn't just want to be a starter,

1316
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 1: he wants to be a leader on the defense. So

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01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:01,760
Speaker 1: you have that. And Kevin Bayer is the star wart

1318
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:04,720
Speaker 1: in the secondary and one of the things that the

1319
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 1: build or scooting the Titans last year. It was a

1320
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 1: big problem that they didn't challenge receivers at the line

1321
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:14,560
Speaker 1: of scrimmage, and when you're letting a receiver like you

1322
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:17,759
Speaker 1: let Stefan Diggs get a free release, it just canceled

1323
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 1: Christians because it's going to be a completion. And when

1324
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 1: you're allowing these guys to just come off the ball

1325
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 1: nothing to disrupt the timing of the passing game, then

1326
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 1: you wonder why up front they got nineteen only nineteen sevens. Well,

1327
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 1: that's why. I mean, that's a big reason why. So

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01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 1: they are making it a goal to come up and

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01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 1: challenge receivers and be more aggressive and really developed that

1330
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 1: chatter at the line of scrimmage to make the quarterback

1331
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 1: come off of that bread and go to the next one.

1332
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 1: And those are some of the things that are focus points,

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01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 1: you know, talking to Anthony Midget, the dB coach, as

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01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 1: well as the assistant dB coach, Scott Booker. Last one

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01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:55,679
Speaker 1: for me, toron what is the biggest position group question

1336
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 1: mark for them going into training camp? Do they have

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01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 1: something that a group that for instance, nobody knows anything

1338
01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:03,719
Speaker 1: about or appears to be weak at least on paper.

1339
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:05,680
Speaker 1: You know, what's the biggest question mark as they head

1340
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:09,679
Speaker 1: into this season. Yeah, I think it's it's a mixture

1341
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 1: of two things, tight end and right tackle. They did

1342
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:15,599
Speaker 1: draft dealing ratings out of North Dakota State and he's

1343
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:18,680
Speaker 1: done a really good job with just steadily improving. And

1344
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 1: he's doing that despite playing up and down a line

1345
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:23,719
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. I've seen a lot of four different spots.

1346
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 1: So the right tackle, who's going to take over that?

1347
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:29,840
Speaker 1: That's definitely a question. But I think the biggest question

1348
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 1: is tight end. And we touched on it earlier with

1349
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:36,320
Speaker 1: Johnny Smith leaving and that that heard him, I think,

1350
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 1: and Anthony Foster is a guy that he's a consistent

1351
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 1: pass cutterer. His routes are really precise. But what are

1352
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 1: you going to do in the block the game? How

1353
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:46,960
Speaker 1: predictable are you going to be? Because when you have

1354
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 1: a primary you know, mostly a pass catch of guy

1355
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:53,640
Speaker 1: at tight end, you know teams are gonna match up.

1356
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 1: But the advantage when you have a guy like a

1357
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 1: John H. Smith, if teams match up with their bigger

1358
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:02,520
Speaker 1: defensive personnel, now you can walk down to Smith out

1359
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 1: to the numbers and having advantage. Can you have that

1360
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 1: advantage going against nickel corners or safeties when teams try

1361
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 1: to match up? So I think that's the thing. Jeff Swain.

1362
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:17,559
Speaker 1: He's more of a blocking tight end. So when they

1363
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:20,760
Speaker 1: do go twelve personnel, okay, it's going to be more

1364
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 1: more likely they're going to run the football. So you

1365
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:25,760
Speaker 1: want to just get out of that predictable like you're

1366
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 1: being too predictable. Turn, thanks for the time as always.

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01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure at the very latest, will catch up with

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01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:33,720
Speaker 1: you during Week six when it's the Bills and the

1369
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 1: Titans down there in Nashville. So at the very least

1370
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 1: until that time, enjoy your summer. Man. Before camp hits

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01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 1: and our lives are over. Absolutely absolutely, And when camp hits,

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01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:47,160
Speaker 1: my life is not over. It's just beginning. Let's go.

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01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:50,800
Speaker 1: Thanks to awesome stuff. Good to talk to you. That's

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01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 1: Turn Davenport, ESPN Titans Beat reporter joining us here. And

1375
01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:58,360
Speaker 1: that's the thing that's most interesting to me. People are

1376
01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 1: all wrapped up in the Julio Jones thing, and I

1377
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 1: get the name recognition and all of that. They're gonna

1378
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 1: be depending on a lot of guys on the back

1379
01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 1: end of that defense that don't have a lot of

1380
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:10,639
Speaker 1: time on an NFL field, whether it's Christian Fulton, their

1381
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 1: second round pick from the last year, who barely got

1382
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 1: on the field, or whether it's Caleb Farley and how's

1383
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 1: he going to hold up healthwise? Genorris Jenkins, Genoras Jenkins,

1384
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:21,880
Speaker 1: who's a veteran, and you say, okay, he should be fine.

1385
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 1: And then even Elijah Molden, is he gonna be here

1386
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:28,639
Speaker 1: starting nickel like, you don't know, they're gonna have a Yeah, certainly,

1387
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 1: the guy's gonna prove himself during the preseason, but you're

1388
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:32,840
Speaker 1: gonna have some guys with some inexperience when you come

1389
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 1: in on week one. That one of the things too

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01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 1: about that tight end University that he said, it's interesting too.

1391
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 1: And generally speaking, as most guys of my vintage or

1392
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 1: older or right around there will understand tight end University

1393
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 1: and running back in all this place where these groups,

1394
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 1: you know, quarterback Summit or pass rush Summit, those kind

1395
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:55,760
Speaker 1: of things. He's right, he goes back in the day,

1396
01:14:55,880 --> 01:15:00,040
Speaker 1: those guys were enemies, and only I think during the

1397
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:02,679
Speaker 1: later parts of my career did that start to break down.

1398
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 1: Certainly when playing bing guys started to go from team

1399
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 1: to team and they used to get they're used to

1400
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 1: having new guys that they used to play against on

1401
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:12,640
Speaker 1: their team. And as that happened more and more steadily,

1402
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 1: either the animosity started to drop and it became about competing.

1403
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 1: And now you get these guys saying, you know what,

1404
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 1: if I can have a legacy and maybe I can

1405
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:23,519
Speaker 1: pass down some things that I do pretty well to

1406
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 1: some other guys that help them in their career and

1407
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 1: their lives, it's kind of cool to see. I think.

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01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 1: I think it's a good thing, not a bad thing.

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01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:31,680
Speaker 1: You can say it used to be fun when there

1410
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 1: was real hatred among teams. Yeah, you can't live like that,

1411
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 1: you know, you can't live like that. Right, break time

1412
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 1: for us here. When we come back, though, we will

1413
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:49,440
Speaker 1: address who called Josh Allen the most physically gifted quarterback

1414
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:52,559
Speaker 1: in the NFL. That's next here on One Bills Live,

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01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 1: presented by Collat of Health. This is Buffalo Bills Radio.

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01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:09,959
Speaker 1: We'll go back to One Bills Live. If you're familiar

1417
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:13,639
Speaker 1: with this show, you're familiar with the person who called

1418
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 1: Josh Allen the most physically gifted quarterback in the NFL

1419
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:18,519
Speaker 1: and a recent write up. We'll get to that in

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01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 1: a second. But waiting patiently on the phone lines has

1421
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 1: been carl In Tonawanda, who wants to chime in on

1422
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 1: who he feels will benefit the most by playing in

1423
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:30,639
Speaker 1: preseason games this summer, something not afforded to young players

1424
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:33,720
Speaker 1: last summer due to the pandemic. Carl, thanks for hanging on.

1425
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 1: What do you have for us? You're on one bills live, Carl?

1426
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:42,880
Speaker 1: Are you there? I'm here? Okay? What do you got

1427
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:46,719
Speaker 1: for us? Carl? Thanks for hanging on a couple of things.

1428
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 1: First off, I called him last year, and you guys

1429
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:57,720
Speaker 1: were asking, Yeah, I called him last year and I

1430
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:03,719
Speaker 1: got a fishing story. Oh okay, yeah, we're here. Keep going, Carl,

1431
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 1: we're waiting. Yeah. I called it last year about a

1432
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 1: fishing story. Did you call him last year about a

1433
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 1: fishing story? Carl? Oh my gosh, keep going, Carl, go ahead,

1434
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 1: what's your fishing story? I called him last year about

1435
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 1: the best special teams player we got. Okay, okay, I said,

1436
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 1: Tyler Bath, Tyler Bass, Tyler Bass. I see what you

1437
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:34,840
Speaker 1: did there, fishing story and Tyler Bass, you batt. Not

1438
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 1: only do we have the bass this year, we have

1439
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:43,760
Speaker 1: a hawk and a wild goose. This is true, This

1440
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:46,679
Speaker 1: is true. I can't debate your your comments here, Carl.

1441
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:50,720
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated for some reason. I think I get the

1442
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:53,799
Speaker 1: sense that you used to watch shows like Mad Animal

1443
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 1: Kingdom with Marlon Perkins or Wild Kingdom with Marlon Perkins,

1444
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 1: and you watch Wild America. All right, Carl, So what's

1445
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:04,160
Speaker 1: your what's your thought about this year? Where are you

1446
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 1: going with this? Okay? Um, this year, I'm picking somebody

1447
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 1: a little different to shine. Okay, Okay, you guys talked

1448
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 1: about Dan Dane uh Jackson and Ross Brusso and bash him.

1449
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 1: Guys all gonna make the team. Okay. To me, a

1450
01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 1: guy that has to shine in the preseason has gotta

1451
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:32,719
Speaker 1: be someone to just make the team. Okay, go ahead,

1452
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 1: And so who you got? I got Isaiah Hodgins. Isaiah Hodgins. Yeah,

1453
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:43,480
Speaker 1: I mean this guy, they say he's good, he's injured,

1454
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 1: he had a year in the program. He's got to

1455
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 1: show something just to make the team. Yeah, I mean,

1456
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 1: I don't think you're wrong there, Carl Uh. He was

1457
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 1: near the top of my list as well. I mean

1458
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 1: the top two first two names I wrote down Dane Jackson,

1459
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:00,679
Speaker 1: Isaiah Hodgins, and then the third one was Christian Waite.

1460
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:03,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, he's got a show out in

1461
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:06,680
Speaker 1: the preseason and prove he deserves a spot in what

1462
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:10,680
Speaker 1: is a very deep end experienced receiving corps. I mean,

1463
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:13,879
Speaker 1: there's no question about it. But if the early returns

1464
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 1: are any indication, I think he's got a good chance

1465
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 1: of doing just that. Now, it could be different when

1466
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 1: the pads go on, we'll know better, and we'll obviously

1467
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:22,799
Speaker 1: know even better when we get to the preseason games.

1468
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:25,720
Speaker 1: But I think he's positioned himself quite well, and he's

1469
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 1: now fully healthy coming off the shoulder surgery. So yeah,

1470
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 1: I'm encouraged about his chance. It's quite frankly. I liked

1471
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 1: him as a college player coming out, so when they

1472
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:38,639
Speaker 1: drafted him, I was high on him. Gave Davis obviously

1473
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 1: changed the conversation dramatically last year as the fourth round pick,

1474
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 1: but I think Hodgens has something to offer here, So

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01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 1: I'm intrigued by what he's going to bring to the

1476
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 1: field this summer. I don't know if you feel differently, No,

1477
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:55,000
Speaker 1: no, no no. I thought Carl was going to chime in

1478
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 1: but tell us that he'd called in last year for

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01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 1: about fishing story. So I don't know if he did that.

1480
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 1: Maybe I maybe think he did. I think you heard

1481
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 1: that somewhere I'm all about it. I'm Hodgens is a guy.

1482
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:11,400
Speaker 1: Think how good he's gonna have to play though to

1483
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:13,640
Speaker 1: alter where they're headed, you know, down this, he's got

1484
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 1: to stand track, He's got to stand I will say

1485
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:18,840
Speaker 1: this though. He is the kind of guy who would

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01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 1: be on like a young Emmanuel Sanders. It's that kind

1487
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 1: of thing. He is a bigger Steph Diggs. That's his

1488
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:28,559
Speaker 1: type of separation. Not known as a guy that's gonna

1489
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 1: run pat not a Tyreek Hill is gonna run past everybody,

1490
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:34,800
Speaker 1: or a DK Metcalf who's a speed guy first, but

1491
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 1: he's a route runner, separation get or a guy who

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01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 1: could come down inside and theoretically play get a good

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01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:42,439
Speaker 1: match up against a slot receiver. And in fact, if

1494
01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:45,679
Speaker 1: you want to how he make to me, his ticket

1495
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:48,200
Speaker 1: to making the club is to be a guy who

1496
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 1: gives them something on on first and second down that

1497
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:53,880
Speaker 1: maybe nobody else gives him, or maybe that that Cole

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01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:56,599
Speaker 1: Beasley doesn't give him. If you want to trade out

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01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:59,479
Speaker 1: at Cole Beasley for a bigger bodied receiver, maybe in

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01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:02,479
Speaker 1: the red zone, or maybe on a third and two

1501
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:05,040
Speaker 1: or you know, or whatever, or maybe a third and long.

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01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:06,640
Speaker 1: I don't know which which would be, whether it be

1503
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:08,400
Speaker 1: a short one because Beasy be really good at that.

1504
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:10,959
Speaker 1: Maybe on a third and eight or third and fifteen,

1505
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 1: a bigger bodied receiver that's open when he's not open,

1506
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:16,519
Speaker 1: or maybe give you something on a first and second

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01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:18,040
Speaker 1: down in the running game where you go out and

1508
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 1: get a put a bigger body and maybe even even

1509
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 1: help you double team a linebacker in the run game

1510
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 1: kind of thing. But as a guy who you could

1511
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:28,680
Speaker 1: plug in all the way across the line, because he's

1512
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:31,799
Speaker 1: a lot like Gabriel Davis, He's a lot like Emmanuel Sanders,

1513
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:34,599
Speaker 1: He's a lot like Stefon Diggs. He's a bigger body

1514
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:38,639
Speaker 1: than those guys. Even so to have him come in

1515
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 1: and be an option, it just comes. It just comes

1516
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:45,920
Speaker 1: to the point where where you gonna put him. You know,

1517
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:47,680
Speaker 1: how's he gonna get on the field, and where are

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01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:49,639
Speaker 1: we going to take off the field to have him

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01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 1: go on the field. And it might be injury or

1520
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 1: it might be he's a special teamer in case unless

1521
01:21:57,040 --> 01:22:01,080
Speaker 1: an injury happens. Yeah, technique separator is kind of his

1522
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:03,719
Speaker 1: calling card. That's what he is. And that's big, especially

1523
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 1: for a kid his size. Yeah, we wanted to get

1524
01:22:07,160 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 1: to these comments that were written in this week's Football

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01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:14,560
Speaker 1: Morning in America column not by Peter King. There was

1526
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 1: a fill in columnist this week by the name of

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01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:22,959
Speaker 1: Greg co Sell Steve, and in his ten Thoughts rundown

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01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 1: number four was as follows, I think Josh Allen is

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01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 1: the most physically gifted quarterback in the NFL. I'm going

1530
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:35,640
Speaker 1: to read directly from what Greg wrote. That is not

1531
01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 1: a bold, controversial take. It is just a statement of fact.

1532
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:42,639
Speaker 1: Whether he develops into the best quarterback in the NFL

1533
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:45,959
Speaker 1: is a different question, one that remains to be answered. Remember,

1534
01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:48,599
Speaker 1: Alan is six foot five and two hundred forty pounds.

1535
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:50,679
Speaker 1: Think about that for a moment. I have stood next

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01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:52,640
Speaker 1: to him. He is a big man. I stood a

1537
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:55,400
Speaker 1: few feet away watching him throw, and I've never seen

1538
01:22:55,439 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 1: a ball come out of the hand of a passer

1539
01:22:57,040 --> 01:23:02,400
Speaker 1: like it does with Alan. It was other worldly. The

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01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:04,479
Speaker 1: name that often comes up, and rightly so, when the

1541
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:07,519
Speaker 1: talk is of the most physically talented quarterbacks of all time,

1542
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:11,960
Speaker 1: is John Elway. Alan is much bigger man than Elway.

1543
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:14,880
Speaker 1: Alan is the most intriguing quarterback I've watched and evaluated

1544
01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 1: in all my years at NFL films, which is over

1545
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 1: forty years. It would not surprise me at all if

1546
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:22,880
Speaker 1: we soon call Alan the most physically gifted quarterback the

1547
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 1: league has ever seen. Stay tuned, great Cosell coming with

1548
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 1: the fire. That might be a little bit of a

1549
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:35,160
Speaker 1: bold statement. But he's big. I mean, he's bigger than

1550
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 1: He's a little bigger than Elway was. I mean, you

1551
01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 1: could make Cam Newton physical gifted comparisons all day long,

1552
01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 1: but he is not as gifted a thrower as josh No,

1553
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:46,880
Speaker 1: he never was, never was. I mean, he certainly had

1554
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:49,719
Speaker 1: a big arm, no question, but didn't have the accuracy.

1555
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:52,479
Speaker 1: He's not a one sixty percent control. Even in his

1556
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 1: MVP year he was a thrower as well as Joshua was.

1557
01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 1: He had like twelve rushing touchdowns. And he could say

1558
01:23:57,240 --> 01:23:59,760
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is a better runner, and probably is. He's

1559
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:04,920
Speaker 1: as big as at all. Here's the difference. Tell me

1560
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:08,640
Speaker 1: if you agree Cam Newton might be a better athlete,

1561
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson might be a better athlete, but they are

1562
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 1: not a more physically gifted quarterback. And I am he

1563
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:18,800
Speaker 1: throws it better than they do, although they throw it

1564
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:21,439
Speaker 1: very well. I mean, I just think he's better. Um

1565
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:24,480
Speaker 1: there and they're in the conversation, no question. So is Elway,

1566
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:26,479
Speaker 1: and so are some other guy. Mike Vick had an

1567
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:29,800
Speaker 1: arm like you've never seen. Um, he could flick the ball.

1568
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:31,559
Speaker 1: And in fact, you know, you go back and look

1569
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:35,440
Speaker 1: at Mike and he was lefty effortless. It was absolutely effortless.

1570
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:38,880
Speaker 1: And you had guys he was Mike Vick was making

1571
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:43,719
Speaker 1: completions way down the field because it was so far

1572
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 1: down the field that the defensive backs wouldn't believe he

1573
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 1: could get the ball there faster than they could get there,

1574
01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 1: so they give themselves a space. You have this this

1575
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 1: you know, your mental clock or mental calendar in your

1576
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 1: head where all right, if get the deeper down the

1577
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 1: field you get, the more time you have to react

1578
01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:07,000
Speaker 1: to the football. Right, So if if a guy kicks

1579
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:08,680
Speaker 1: the kick off, you know you can like run over

1580
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:10,639
Speaker 1: there and get there. Unless it's a really bad short

1581
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:12,680
Speaker 1: kick off to the side, you can have hard time

1582
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 1: getting there. But if he kicks it, you know that

1583
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:16,720
Speaker 1: wherever it's gonna be, you're gonna be able to run

1584
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 1: over there and catch it. Some of these throws that

1585
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:23,719
Speaker 1: Mike Vick used to make, DBS would know, he's gonna

1586
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:25,200
Speaker 1: have to get it there, he's gonna have to put

1587
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:26,720
Speaker 1: so much arc on it. I'm gonna be able to

1588
01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:28,080
Speaker 1: feel it like a punt. I'll be able to get

1589
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 1: it and defend it and knock it away. And Mike

1590
01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 1: would flip it and they couldn't you know, the ball

1591
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 1: had such velocity and didn't have that much air on it,

1592
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:40,800
Speaker 1: and it was traveling so far. They couldn't believe it.

1593
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:45,559
Speaker 1: And they just that was that's an arm unlike any

1594
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:49,720
Speaker 1: you will see very often, always same thing. You can

1595
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 1: see Elway when he'd throw the football. His shoulders would

1596
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 1: you know, guys throw it and their shoulders kind of

1597
01:25:56,920 --> 01:25:59,080
Speaker 1: more or less state a little bit square to the target.

1598
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:03,679
Speaker 1: You know, Elways would turn almost one hundred and eighty

1599
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:06,280
Speaker 1: degrees because they'd start with his left shoulder. He's a

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01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:08,880
Speaker 1: right handed quarterback, his left shoulder facing the target, and

1601
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:12,880
Speaker 1: he'd throw it, and then his left his right shoulder

1602
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:15,760
Speaker 1: was facing the target. His torso added that much more

1603
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:19,880
Speaker 1: velocity to the to the arm. And that guy had

1604
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 1: a truly amazing arm. So but you know, let's face it,

1605
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:28,879
Speaker 1: we all sat here last year and watched Josh sling

1606
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:31,600
Speaker 1: it and what's the comparison we made. I remember I

1607
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 1: was interviewing Cornelius Benning, one of your teammates. Who does

1608
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:36,599
Speaker 1: Josh Allen remind you of? John Elway is the first

1609
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:39,639
Speaker 1: name out of his mouth. He's big, two, big dude,

1610
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 1: strong and Josh and Josh picked it up. And let's

1611
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:44,840
Speaker 1: face it to John Elway was horrible his first year.

1612
01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:48,000
Speaker 1: He was. He struggled as most quarterbacks did in that

1613
01:26:48,120 --> 01:26:50,720
Speaker 1: day and age, because back then it was and I

1614
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 1: don't want to say stone age, but I'll say it

1615
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:54,800
Speaker 1: was a stone age. You came into a team and

1616
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 1: this is the offense that Dinver Broncos run. You better

1617
01:26:57,280 --> 01:26:59,679
Speaker 1: run it the way they want to run whatever. Yeah,

1618
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:02,080
Speaker 1: you're you're gonna learn our offense. You're gonna run it.

1619
01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:03,960
Speaker 1: Nowadays they don't do that. They go, what do you

1620
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 1: do well? Okay, that's our offense. We're gonna let you

1621
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 1: do what you do well and see if they can

1622
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:10,120
Speaker 1: defend it, particularly with your physical gifts. That's what. But

1623
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:12,439
Speaker 1: back then John Elway had to do it and Dan

1624
01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:14,839
Speaker 1: Reeves was the head coach. They went to three Super Bowls.

1625
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:19,640
Speaker 1: John Elway had like umpteen game winning drives in the

1626
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:21,720
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. And when Dan Reeves was let go as

1627
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:25,920
Speaker 1: the head coach, John Elway said finally because he had

1628
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:29,240
Speaker 1: spent his entire career running this offense where he was like,

1629
01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:31,800
Speaker 1: what are you doing? I mean, let me, what are

1630
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 1: we doing here? Right? And he didn't like it. And

1631
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 1: so when Dan Reeves left, always like, please give me

1632
01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:40,920
Speaker 1: somebody that can that knows how to run an offense

1633
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:44,160
Speaker 1: that you know you don't need a fullback for. And

1634
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:46,400
Speaker 1: you know, Mike Shanahan comes in, they win game, they

1635
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:50,120
Speaker 1: win two Super Bowls, So you know that that's kind

1636
01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:52,720
Speaker 1: of the breakthrough when guys like Shanahan came in said

1637
01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 1: what do we got? Okay, here's what we're gonna do

1638
01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 1: because of this is what we got instead of having

1639
01:27:57,439 --> 01:28:01,920
Speaker 1: these guys, I mean, Dallas did it with Tom Landry,

1640
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:05,559
Speaker 1: the Broncos did it, like I said, the Green Bay

1641
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:08,679
Speaker 1: Packers did it. The ran you know, go down the list,

1642
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:11,720
Speaker 1: everybody did. That's the way it was done. And when

1643
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 1: once you had a coach who really knew how to

1644
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 1: run an offense, that's the offense you ran. Now it's

1645
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 1: way different. And so guys like Josh and Lamar Jackson

1646
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:26,760
Speaker 1: and you know Pat Mahomes and anybody else you want

1647
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:32,040
Speaker 1: to name. They particularly guys like Jared Goff. You get

1648
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:34,640
Speaker 1: a quarterback, you get a coach who knows how to

1649
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 1: maximize the talent he's got instead of just implementing an offense.

1650
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 1: You get a guy like Jared Goff. To the Super Bowl.

1651
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:44,639
Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes is MVP. Lamar Jackson's MV. But you couldn't

1652
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:47,599
Speaker 1: see you couldn't find two different guys, two more different

1653
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 1: guys than Mahomes and Lamar. So you can make all

1654
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:56,000
Speaker 1: the comparisons you want. You know, Yeah, Josh is incredibly

1655
01:28:56,000 --> 01:29:00,160
Speaker 1: physically gifted and maybe total package. He's higher on some

1656
01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:03,280
Speaker 1: of the some of the you know graphs you want

1657
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:05,120
Speaker 1: to say, he's higher than most other guys. Are his

1658
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:07,200
Speaker 1: averages higher than everybody else? But man, oh man, there's

1659
01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:10,320
Speaker 1: some guys out there that are that are really physically gifted.

1660
01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:12,800
Speaker 1: You and I watched Lamar, I mean, good grief. You're

1661
01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:15,479
Speaker 1: at the top of the food chain Astley right, um.

1662
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:17,880
Speaker 1: To know that Josh is at the apex of that

1663
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:21,880
Speaker 1: food chain is it's pretty cool. It is pretty cool,

1664
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:25,559
Speaker 1: particularly knowing I mean, and we've seen it. You know,

1665
01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:28,519
Speaker 1: the guy's pretty special now he plays against some special people,

1666
01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 1: but he's on a coaching staff with day Ball and McDermott,

1667
01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:36,320
Speaker 1: and you know they don't they maximize him. They give

1668
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:38,439
Speaker 1: him what he needs to be successful, and the guy

1669
01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 1: works at it. Ye. So that doesn't mean that just

1670
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:44,800
Speaker 1: because he is that and we think he is, or

1671
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:47,840
Speaker 1: we you know he's in that conversation, that doesn't mean

1672
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:49,960
Speaker 1: that he's gonna win every single game every week. Because

1673
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:52,040
Speaker 1: there's some guys you're not playing in a vacuum in

1674
01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:56,360
Speaker 1: the NFL. You're playing against, you know, a full field

1675
01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:01,439
Speaker 1: break time for us when we come back, more on

1676
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:04,439
Speaker 1: who you think is going to benefit most by playing

1677
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:08,639
Speaker 1: in preseason games. There's some names we haven't gotten to yet.

1678
01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:11,400
Speaker 1: We'll address those when we return here on One Bills Live,

1679
01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:25,280
Speaker 1: presented by Kellied of Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome

1680
01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:28,240
Speaker 1: back to one Bills Live. Chris Brown's the tasker with

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01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:31,599
Speaker 1: you and want to get back to the tweet sheet

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01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:33,639
Speaker 1: to get your thoughts on who you feel is going

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01:30:33,680 --> 01:30:37,439
Speaker 1: to benefit the most by getting time on the field

1684
01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:40,840
Speaker 1: in the preseason. What young or unproven player on this

1685
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:43,719
Speaker 1: roster do you feel is going to benefit the most

1686
01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:46,840
Speaker 1: from getting preseason playing time, something young players did not

1687
01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:49,680
Speaker 1: get the opportunity to do last summer, as we know,

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01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:54,360
Speaker 1: during the midst of the pandemic. So here we go

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01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:57,479
Speaker 1: back to the tweet sheet. Hold On, I picked up

1690
01:30:57,520 --> 01:31:04,960
Speaker 1: the wrong dang email god from Tiffany. From Tiffany, Isaiah

1691
01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:07,120
Speaker 1: Hodgins and my opinion, has the most to gain from

1692
01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:09,519
Speaker 1: the upcoming preseason games. He's in a position group with

1693
01:31:09,560 --> 01:31:11,320
Speaker 1: a ton of talent in front of him. He's gonna

1694
01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:13,840
Speaker 1: have to create some big moments to catch the eye

1695
01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:16,160
Speaker 1: of the coaches. He may have to sneak onto the

1696
01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:19,840
Speaker 1: roster via special teams. That's gonna be interesting because I

1697
01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:25,880
Speaker 1: don't know what special team role he would hold because

1698
01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:32,080
Speaker 1: he's not fast enough to be a gunner, and I

1699
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:37,479
Speaker 1: don't know if his body frame. I don't know that

1700
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:42,960
Speaker 1: his body frame is a fit. Yeah. Yeah, he can

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01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:44,960
Speaker 1: be a coverage guy for sure. He can be a

1702
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:46,720
Speaker 1: wing back on pont he can be an up back

1703
01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:48,479
Speaker 1: on punt. He can be he could be a real

1704
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:50,720
Speaker 1: valuable asset on punt team because if if you put

1705
01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:52,240
Speaker 1: him down in the box or in one of the

1706
01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:56,760
Speaker 1: upback positions or wingback positions, or if you put him

1707
01:31:56,760 --> 01:32:03,120
Speaker 1: at the personal protector. You know, he's an athlete, and

1708
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:05,080
Speaker 1: I just don't know if he's got enough sand in

1709
01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:07,880
Speaker 1: his pants to be personals big though. I mean he's tall,

1710
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:11,080
Speaker 1: he's lanky. Yeah, well okay, but you know you don't

1711
01:32:11,080 --> 01:32:13,280
Speaker 1: have to be a middle linebacker in there. I'm okay.

1712
01:32:13,479 --> 01:32:15,559
Speaker 1: And particularly on a punt rush, you can just get

1713
01:32:15,560 --> 01:32:19,080
Speaker 1: in the guy's way. You're good enough. But yeah, and

1714
01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:21,040
Speaker 1: he's got enough speed to get down the field. And

1715
01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:23,240
Speaker 1: that's more about desire and making sure you're in the

1716
01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:25,760
Speaker 1: right spot on the field rather than just getting there

1717
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:28,280
Speaker 1: with dead out running as fast as you want. And

1718
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:30,320
Speaker 1: he can certainly cover kickoffs. I mean, what are you

1719
01:32:30,320 --> 01:32:34,240
Speaker 1: gonna cover maybe one or two a game, tops tops.

1720
01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:38,120
Speaker 1: I will say it's more than just catching the eye

1721
01:32:38,280 --> 01:32:42,160
Speaker 1: of the coaches. What do coaches cover it the most

1722
01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:47,200
Speaker 1: when they put players out on the field. Trust, right,

1723
01:32:47,560 --> 01:32:50,880
Speaker 1: It's all about trust with coaches. I want to know

1724
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:55,160
Speaker 1: that I can trust that ninety nine and a half

1725
01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:58,120
Speaker 1: times out of one hundred you're going to execute properly.

1726
01:32:58,479 --> 01:33:01,840
Speaker 1: Maybe even nine times out of a thousand, we're going

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01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:06,240
Speaker 1: to execute properly. If yeah, if you don't execute, it's

1728
01:33:06,280 --> 01:33:08,200
Speaker 1: one thing to get beat physically, if you got a

1729
01:33:08,200 --> 01:33:10,759
Speaker 1: better guy than you, Okay, you're not going to execute. Okay,

1730
01:33:10,880 --> 01:33:12,679
Speaker 1: but that's on me for getting you in that spot

1731
01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:15,839
Speaker 1: as a coach. But if you know what you're supposed

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01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:19,120
Speaker 1: to do and don't do it for whatever reason, yeah,

1733
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:22,000
Speaker 1: that's a problem. That's a problem because for a coach

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01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:24,120
Speaker 1: out there, and we saw it again, and this is

1735
01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:28,080
Speaker 1: why it drives and this is why coaches give an example.

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01:33:28,280 --> 01:33:33,240
Speaker 1: You know, I've used the Vic Fanio and the Robert

1737
01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:36,640
Speaker 1: Salo defensive coordinators, defensive play callers. Vic Fonjio obviously the

1738
01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:39,080
Speaker 1: head coach who calls the defensive calls for the Denver Broncos,

1739
01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:41,439
Speaker 1: and Robert Salo, who's the defensive coordinator for the Niners.

1740
01:33:41,479 --> 01:33:44,280
Speaker 1: Last year watching Josh Allen play, they make, they make

1741
01:33:44,320 --> 01:33:47,080
Speaker 1: a call on defense, get a free rusher on the quarterback,

1742
01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:52,640
Speaker 1: got him dead to rides, Oh touchdown, Buffalo. When you

1743
01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:55,559
Speaker 1: get a defensive call, when you do the game planning,

1744
01:33:55,560 --> 01:33:57,640
Speaker 1: when you do the scouting combine, when you do the

1745
01:33:57,640 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 1: scouting and the thing and you anticipate an offensive call

1746
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:04,960
Speaker 1: in a protection, you get a guy in there. Please

1747
01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:09,280
Speaker 1: give me somebody who can make a tackle. So because

1748
01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:12,400
Speaker 1: you're sitting there as a coach, who gets who gets

1749
01:34:12,439 --> 01:34:16,559
Speaker 1: blamed for that? Who cares the defensive coordinator sitting over

1750
01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:18,920
Speaker 1: there going what do I gotta do? Give me a

1751
01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:23,479
Speaker 1: guy who can do it? Do it? You know, and

1752
01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:27,280
Speaker 1: those and they're sitting out there going, you know, that's

1753
01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:29,320
Speaker 1: the thing that's a crusher. As a coach, you can

1754
01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:32,000
Speaker 1: draw it all up and you get it. Is it

1755
01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:38,439
Speaker 1: either it is? Yeah? What? Yes, you gotta have the

1756
01:34:38,439 --> 01:34:41,760
Speaker 1: horses they and on special teams. There's one other thing

1757
01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:47,000
Speaker 1: that you have to ask, ask for that. Offensive coordinators

1758
01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:51,000
Speaker 1: and defensive coordinates do not have to ask for Give

1759
01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:54,720
Speaker 1: me somebody who actually wants to do it. Give me

1760
01:34:54,760 --> 01:34:57,360
Speaker 1: somebody who's into it, who wants to play in that spot.

1761
01:34:57,439 --> 01:35:00,240
Speaker 1: Give me somebody who wants to be on this team

1762
01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:04,400
Speaker 1: badly enough to cover kicks. I know he's been. He

1763
01:35:04,479 --> 01:35:07,599
Speaker 1: was a finalist for the Heisman Trophy winner at this position.

1764
01:35:07,680 --> 01:35:10,000
Speaker 1: I know he was an All American four straight years.

1765
01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:11,800
Speaker 1: He's a four year starter at a big time school.

1766
01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:13,679
Speaker 1: I know he's done all that, and I know he's

1767
01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:17,080
Speaker 1: he hasn't done it before, but he's he'd be great

1768
01:35:17,120 --> 01:35:18,519
Speaker 1: if he wanted it. If he wants to do it.

1769
01:35:18,760 --> 01:35:20,880
Speaker 1: Give me a guy and the guy says, what you

1770
01:35:20,920 --> 01:35:24,920
Speaker 1: want me to what? Yeah, I'm covering kicks. Find me

1771
01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:27,719
Speaker 1: somebody that doesn't mind running forty yards at top speed

1772
01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:30,840
Speaker 1: and running headlong into somebody. Yeah, you gotta want me

1773
01:35:30,880 --> 01:35:32,599
Speaker 1: one of those guys you want to be on the team.

1774
01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:35,200
Speaker 1: Do it. If you don't find we're gonna find somebody

1775
01:35:35,200 --> 01:35:36,720
Speaker 1: who does. And most of those guys are like, you

1776
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:39,799
Speaker 1: know what, And it goes all the way through sports.

1777
01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:43,080
Speaker 1: You can see guys who you know what. I never

1778
01:35:43,160 --> 01:35:45,680
Speaker 1: saw myself as a Canadian football player. I'm gonna hang

1779
01:35:45,680 --> 01:35:47,960
Speaker 1: it up. And you know you're looking at Canadian guys,

1780
01:35:47,960 --> 01:35:50,320
Speaker 1: all the Americans up in Canada. I want to play

1781
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:52,240
Speaker 1: in the NFL too. This at least gets me on

1782
01:35:52,280 --> 01:35:55,040
Speaker 1: the field. At least I get some tape. You're not

1783
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:57,720
Speaker 1: even gonna come. You're not gonna play football in Canada

1784
01:35:57,800 --> 01:36:02,439
Speaker 1: because you think it's beneath you. You know what's uh?

1785
01:36:03,160 --> 01:36:07,160
Speaker 1: You know, guys draw the line different places. Some guys

1786
01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:09,960
Speaker 1: say I'll do anything to play in the NFL, but

1787
01:36:10,040 --> 01:36:14,280
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna cover kicks, right, What are you talking about? Everything?

1788
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:17,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, can I put an asterisk next to that?

1789
01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:20,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll make the team. Sure you can't. All

1790
01:36:20,080 --> 01:36:22,559
Speaker 1: can go play somewhere else, right, you know I'll make

1791
01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:25,559
Speaker 1: the team if if, if I'm on punt team, punt

1792
01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:28,680
Speaker 1: return team, kickoff and kickoff return team, I'll be on

1793
01:36:28,720 --> 01:36:31,439
Speaker 1: the team. But that's how And guys will just say,

1794
01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:34,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. And then you got another guy going

1795
01:36:34,640 --> 01:36:36,760
Speaker 1: just give me a chance to hang in, y, Yeah,

1796
01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:39,840
Speaker 1: sign me up. I'm in. What do I do? Yeah?

1797
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:42,240
Speaker 1: And the special teams coordinator is gonna go, yeah, give

1798
01:36:42,240 --> 01:36:45,760
Speaker 1: me that guy. Ye, give me that guy. All right,

1799
01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:48,479
Speaker 1: break time for us. When we come back. We're going

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01:36:48,520 --> 01:36:52,679
Speaker 1: to introduce you to the start of our camp countdown series.

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01:36:52,720 --> 01:36:56,479
Speaker 1: Can you believe it? It's starting already on Buffalo bills

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01:36:56,520 --> 01:36:59,200
Speaker 1: dot com. We'll let you know what the first installment

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01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:01,879
Speaker 1: is and how you can keep tracked day by day

1804
01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:05,400
Speaker 1: from now until the time the players report that's coming

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01:37:05,479 --> 01:37:07,519
Speaker 1: up next. Here on one Bills Live, presented by Kalid

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Speaker 1: to Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio at a Steve Tasker

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01:37:27,439 --> 01:37:30,120
Speaker 1: who has been all all over the fields, kind of unique.

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01:37:30,120 --> 01:37:32,360
Speaker 1: He was kind of a dual role player for you. Steve,

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01:37:33,720 --> 01:37:38,639
Speaker 1: Steve a blimp. We're not even in the strated here

1810
01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:44,240
Speaker 1: of normalcy. Here, welcome to our number three of a

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Speaker 1: Monday edition of one Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker reviewed,

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01:37:48,320 --> 01:37:50,560
Speaker 1: and we'll continue with some of your comments on the

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01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:52,880
Speaker 1: tweet sheet and at eight O three five fifty one

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01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:56,000
Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty in terms of the Bills player

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01:37:56,040 --> 01:38:00,400
Speaker 1: you feel will benefit most from preseason game action after

1816
01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:03,480
Speaker 1: there was no preseason last summer due to the pandemic.

1817
01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:07,519
Speaker 1: But we wanted to bring you up to speed on

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01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:12,439
Speaker 1: the fact that Camp Countdown, presented by Connors and Ferris,

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01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:17,200
Speaker 1: is underway on Buffalo bills dot com and the trio

1820
01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:22,920
Speaker 1: of one Stephen Tsker, Mattie glab and yours truly put

1821
01:38:22,960 --> 01:38:29,040
Speaker 1: together a series of pieces, both video and written on

1822
01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:34,439
Speaker 1: some of the more burning questions developments affecting the team

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01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:39,639
Speaker 1: headed into training camp here in twenty twenty one. So

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Speaker 1: we began today with the first installment, which is up

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01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:46,280
Speaker 1: at Buffalo bills dot com. In the video section three

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01:38:46,600 --> 01:38:51,800
Speaker 1: areas of improvement to be addressed and Steve, do you

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01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:53,479
Speaker 1: want to take a swing at what you think the

1828
01:38:53,600 --> 01:38:57,680
Speaker 1: areas of improvement for a fifteen win football team are

1829
01:38:58,200 --> 01:39:00,840
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty one. Maybe some areas of the game

1830
01:39:01,240 --> 01:39:10,080
Speaker 1: that could use some improvement. Ready, run game, pass rush,

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01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:13,320
Speaker 1: run game, pass rush, am I in in ballpark. Run

1832
01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:17,320
Speaker 1: game is one. We went run defense too. Run defense.

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01:39:17,320 --> 01:39:20,519
Speaker 1: That's a good red zone defense. Number three, some startling

1834
01:39:20,640 --> 01:39:23,120
Speaker 1: numbers at a red zone defense, Steve, they struggled there.

1835
01:39:23,880 --> 01:39:26,840
Speaker 1: They gave up touchdowns at a rate of sixty two

1836
01:39:26,920 --> 01:39:31,479
Speaker 1: percent last year. I believe that was twenty eighteenth in

1837
01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:35,519
Speaker 1: the league. On the road, Steve, it went up to

1838
01:39:35,680 --> 01:39:43,559
Speaker 1: seventy percent, thirtieth in the league red zone touchdown percentage defense. So, yes,

1839
01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:47,559
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to improve there if you want to

1840
01:39:47,560 --> 01:39:50,240
Speaker 1: get over the hump. Yeah, that's they struggled in that

1841
01:39:50,280 --> 01:39:51,960
Speaker 1: two years ago as well. In fact, that was an

1842
01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:54,000
Speaker 1: area of concern for them coming into this season. This

1843
01:39:54,080 --> 01:39:55,599
Speaker 1: last year. I think one of the reasons it got,

1844
01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:57,960
Speaker 1: you know, brushed under the rug was because you know,

1845
01:39:58,000 --> 01:39:59,920
Speaker 1: you got these desperate teams and they're pulling out all

1846
01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:02,360
Speaker 1: stops all of a sudden. You got a team in

1847
01:40:02,400 --> 01:40:05,559
Speaker 1: Buffalo that scorned thirty points thirty plus points a game,

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01:40:06,240 --> 01:40:09,879
Speaker 1: and you know you kind of think, okay, teams are

1849
01:40:09,680 --> 01:40:11,759
Speaker 1: you're going to give up some points because these desperate

1850
01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:13,479
Speaker 1: teams are going to try things they wouldn't normally try,

1851
01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:16,639
Speaker 1: and they're going to be successful at least half the time.

1852
01:40:16,680 --> 01:40:20,280
Speaker 1: So I think that that's something we forgot about because

1853
01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:22,760
Speaker 1: the team was winning games and the defense. You know,

1854
01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:27,240
Speaker 1: they were winning games, particularly in some spots by three scores.

1855
01:40:27,439 --> 01:40:31,120
Speaker 1: So your red zone defense is like a yarner as

1856
01:40:31,120 --> 01:40:35,120
Speaker 1: a problem. Yeah, and I think too the pass rush

1857
01:40:35,240 --> 01:40:38,840
Speaker 1: that you mentioned, or the lack thereof in terms of

1858
01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:43,280
Speaker 1: getting hits or getting the quarterback on the ground probably

1859
01:40:43,280 --> 01:40:47,800
Speaker 1: contributed to the red zone defense as well, or it's ineffectiveness.

1860
01:40:48,680 --> 01:40:50,559
Speaker 1: If you have a better pass rush to help the

1861
01:40:50,600 --> 01:40:54,479
Speaker 1: guys on the back end, your red zone defense is

1862
01:40:54,520 --> 01:40:58,800
Speaker 1: probably more effective in keeping teams out of the end zone,

1863
01:40:59,560 --> 01:41:01,960
Speaker 1: and then maybe you're winning some games more handily as

1864
01:41:01,960 --> 01:41:05,200
Speaker 1: a result. Right, So pass rush kind of goes hand

1865
01:41:05,200 --> 01:41:07,360
Speaker 1: in hand with the red zone defense. I think, so

1866
01:41:07,439 --> 01:41:12,280
Speaker 1: too does run defense, and there are encouraging signs there.

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01:41:12,320 --> 01:41:16,560
Speaker 1: Obviously the return of star latulale I got interested in

1868
01:41:16,600 --> 01:41:19,479
Speaker 1: Phillips a year healthier and stronger off the ACL. Right.

1869
01:41:20,160 --> 01:41:22,639
Speaker 1: I got into this conversation with Maddie late last week,

1870
01:41:22,680 --> 01:41:24,840
Speaker 1: and you know, just before the weekend that you know,

1871
01:41:25,720 --> 01:41:29,360
Speaker 1: everybody particularly in our end of the football world, yours

1872
01:41:29,360 --> 01:41:32,200
Speaker 1: and mine and the fans we always tend to think

1873
01:41:32,240 --> 01:41:34,320
Speaker 1: about this team is coming back kind of the same

1874
01:41:34,360 --> 01:41:36,240
Speaker 1: as it was a year ago. I mean, so let's

1875
01:41:36,280 --> 01:41:38,160
Speaker 1: fix what we did wrong last year will be better.

1876
01:41:38,200 --> 01:41:40,080
Speaker 1: But the simple fact of the matter is the Bills

1877
01:41:40,120 --> 01:41:42,320
Speaker 1: that are going to take the field on September twelfth

1878
01:41:42,360 --> 01:41:44,599
Speaker 1: against Pittsburgh, it's going to be a different group. They're

1879
01:41:44,600 --> 01:41:46,720
Speaker 1: gonna have some different same players, maybe a lot of

1880
01:41:46,760 --> 01:41:49,000
Speaker 1: the same players. It's going to be a different team.

1881
01:41:49,400 --> 01:41:52,560
Speaker 1: They're gonna have different strengths, they're gonna have different weaknesses,

1882
01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:56,599
Speaker 1: They're gonna have different problems than last year. So don't

1883
01:41:56,680 --> 01:42:00,960
Speaker 1: fix last year's problems unless it's a personnel problem. Don't

1884
01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:04,160
Speaker 1: fix that. For instance. Don't think, Okay, we need to

1885
01:42:04,240 --> 01:42:06,920
Speaker 1: run the ball more, or we got to change what

1886
01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:08,720
Speaker 1: we do offensively to get us over the hup, or

1887
01:42:08,760 --> 01:42:11,320
Speaker 1: we you know, we've got to change up our defensive

1888
01:42:11,360 --> 01:42:13,439
Speaker 1: scheme because we got to fix what's wrong with our

1889
01:42:13,439 --> 01:42:16,360
Speaker 1: pass rush. You gotta find out what you do well

1890
01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:23,080
Speaker 1: and do it a lot. It's that simple. Both defensively

1891
01:42:23,120 --> 01:42:26,800
Speaker 1: and offensively, do what you do best as often as

1892
01:42:26,840 --> 01:42:29,800
Speaker 1: you can as well as you can and dare the

1893
01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:31,920
Speaker 1: other team to beat you while you're doing what you

1894
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:35,479
Speaker 1: do best. That in and of itself will bring things

1895
01:42:35,479 --> 01:42:37,920
Speaker 1: to light that you don't do well. Like last year.

1896
01:42:38,880 --> 01:42:40,519
Speaker 1: You know, we don't rush the passer all that well.

1897
01:42:40,520 --> 01:42:42,160
Speaker 1: We didn't stop the run all at least in that

1898
01:42:42,200 --> 01:42:43,840
Speaker 1: first half of the season, didn't stop the run all

1899
01:42:43,880 --> 01:42:46,240
Speaker 1: that well. Defense did get better, that can hang out

1900
01:42:46,320 --> 01:42:50,000
Speaker 1: much better. So let's but don't worry about that. Just

1901
01:42:50,160 --> 01:42:53,360
Speaker 1: do what you do well at this team this year.

1902
01:42:53,400 --> 01:42:55,840
Speaker 1: Even if they win the Super Bowl, they're gonna think,

1903
01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:57,160
Speaker 1: you know what, we could do this a little bit.

1904
01:42:57,160 --> 01:42:59,920
Speaker 1: We should fix this. Don't don't spend your life chase

1905
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:02,880
Speaker 1: and what you did bad last year. Ye get as

1906
01:43:02,920 --> 01:43:05,160
Speaker 1: good as you can this year, and take the problems

1907
01:43:05,160 --> 01:43:07,000
Speaker 1: you have this year and live with them and to

1908
01:43:07,200 --> 01:43:09,879
Speaker 1: minimize them. But at the same time, you shouldn't ignore

1909
01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:13,840
Speaker 1: what the deficiencies were the year prior, as long as

1910
01:43:13,880 --> 01:43:16,759
Speaker 1: you understand why they were okay, because if you ignore

1911
01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:19,479
Speaker 1: them they could pop up again. And they may. But

1912
01:43:19,520 --> 01:43:25,559
Speaker 1: if you're winning fifteen games a year, throw the baby

1913
01:43:25,560 --> 01:43:28,080
Speaker 1: out with the bathwater here, right, So let's not let's

1914
01:43:28,120 --> 01:43:30,720
Speaker 1: not take the ball out of Josh Allen's hands, so

1915
01:43:30,760 --> 01:43:33,719
Speaker 1: that we can say that we ran the ball fifty

1916
01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:37,559
Speaker 1: fifty you know, let's you know, listen, instead of scoring

1917
01:43:37,640 --> 01:43:40,080
Speaker 1: thirty thirty five points a game and even more than

1918
01:43:40,120 --> 01:43:42,519
Speaker 1: that in the last month of the regular season. Listen,

1919
01:43:42,920 --> 01:43:45,120
Speaker 1: just so we can say we have a balanced offense. Now,

1920
01:43:46,479 --> 01:43:49,200
Speaker 1: score fifty six points a game, score forty six points

1921
01:43:49,200 --> 01:43:52,160
Speaker 1: a game, score thirty nine points a game, thirty eight

1922
01:43:52,200 --> 01:43:54,840
Speaker 1: points a game against the you know, and just take

1923
01:43:55,479 --> 01:43:58,240
Speaker 1: and live with the problems that that presents. If your

1924
01:43:58,240 --> 01:44:00,439
Speaker 1: defense is under a lot of pressure and they look

1925
01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:04,040
Speaker 1: bad on occasion or whatever. If you're winning by double digits,

1926
01:44:05,080 --> 01:44:08,880
Speaker 1: live with those problems. Yeah, just continue to be strong

1927
01:44:08,960 --> 01:44:12,200
Speaker 1: in areas and expand your envelope of things you do

1928
01:44:12,200 --> 01:44:14,880
Speaker 1: do well so you become less predictable. I just think

1929
01:44:14,920 --> 01:44:19,720
Speaker 1: you you're always looking to improve the weaknesses of your

1930
01:44:20,040 --> 01:44:27,160
Speaker 1: team so that you're a complete and unstoppable force, especially

1931
01:44:27,200 --> 01:44:31,960
Speaker 1: when you're taking on a team that you've been unable

1932
01:44:31,960 --> 01:44:34,679
Speaker 1: to get past. And I know people can say, well,

1933
01:44:34,760 --> 01:44:37,280
Speaker 1: that's all well and good Steve. When you're beating you know,

1934
01:44:37,360 --> 01:44:40,320
Speaker 1: the New York Jets of the world by fifteen points

1935
01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:42,680
Speaker 1: and the Broncos and teams like that. But when you

1936
01:44:42,760 --> 01:44:45,960
Speaker 1: got to face the upper echelon of the conference, we

1937
01:44:46,040 --> 01:44:48,519
Speaker 1: don't want those deficiencies to be the reason you didn't

1938
01:44:48,520 --> 01:44:51,120
Speaker 1: win the game. And I think that's where Bills fans

1939
01:44:51,200 --> 01:44:53,439
Speaker 1: kind of harbor their concerns with just how far this

1940
01:44:53,439 --> 01:44:55,360
Speaker 1: team can go get it. But I would submit this,

1941
01:44:55,960 --> 01:44:58,400
Speaker 1: even in the AFC Championship game, they didn't get beat

1942
01:44:58,439 --> 01:45:00,200
Speaker 1: because of what they didn't do what they did. They

1943
01:45:00,240 --> 01:45:02,240
Speaker 1: got beat because they didn't do well what they had

1944
01:45:02,280 --> 01:45:05,120
Speaker 1: done well the entire execute. They didn't execute what they

1945
01:45:05,160 --> 01:45:08,120
Speaker 1: did well. I think give credit to the Chiefs. Yeah,

1946
01:45:08,400 --> 01:45:12,839
Speaker 1: but the Bills didn't play as well in any facet

1947
01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:15,240
Speaker 1: of their game as they did throughout the regular season.

1948
01:45:15,479 --> 01:45:17,800
Speaker 1: And good teams make you do that. Sometimes I get it,

1949
01:45:17,840 --> 01:45:22,360
Speaker 1: but that's not my and I've said it a million times.

1950
01:45:22,360 --> 01:45:24,200
Speaker 1: I'll continue to say, you got to play well when

1951
01:45:24,200 --> 01:45:28,360
Speaker 1: you play those guys. They deserve to be on the field.

1952
01:45:28,360 --> 01:45:29,760
Speaker 1: And it's not like they don't deserve to be on

1953
01:45:29,800 --> 01:45:31,920
Speaker 1: the field with the Chiefs. They do. In fact, they

1954
01:45:31,960 --> 01:45:34,720
Speaker 1: deserve to be on the Chiefs. On the field with

1955
01:45:34,760 --> 01:45:36,840
Speaker 1: the Chiefs last year more than any of the team

1956
01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:40,040
Speaker 1: in the conference. The Bills were the team that earned

1957
01:45:40,040 --> 01:45:42,360
Speaker 1: their way there, and did it with through a gauntlet

1958
01:45:42,400 --> 01:45:44,600
Speaker 1: of a schedule in the regular season and two of

1959
01:45:44,600 --> 01:45:48,160
Speaker 1: the toughest teams in the conference in the playoffs. The

1960
01:45:48,200 --> 01:45:50,960
Speaker 1: Bills earned their way there, and it was a hard

1961
01:45:51,040 --> 01:45:55,760
Speaker 1: scrabble season that they won fifteen games in. So I

1962
01:45:55,800 --> 01:45:58,559
Speaker 1: am not interested, and I get it. Chiefs fans can

1963
01:45:58,600 --> 01:46:01,040
Speaker 1: say whatever they want, and the Bills can say whatever

1964
01:46:01,080 --> 01:46:02,479
Speaker 1: they want, and you'll never beat the Chiefs or you

1965
01:46:02,520 --> 01:46:07,559
Speaker 1: ain't in their same league. Yes they are, Yeah they are. Yes,

1966
01:46:07,680 --> 01:46:10,200
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Would they rather play the Jacksonville Jaguars or

1967
01:46:10,200 --> 01:46:12,679
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills? And I'll tell you the Jacksonville Jaguars

1968
01:46:12,720 --> 01:46:16,439
Speaker 1: every week. There are a lot of teams either don't

1969
01:46:16,439 --> 01:46:19,160
Speaker 1: want any part of this crew. So I'm saying this.

1970
01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:23,360
Speaker 1: The Bills didn't lose because they didn't have enough firepower

1971
01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:25,240
Speaker 1: to beat the chief They Bills lost because they didn't

1972
01:46:25,240 --> 01:46:27,240
Speaker 1: play well. They didn't do what they had done well

1973
01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:30,120
Speaker 1: up to that point. And whatever the Chiefs, you know,

1974
01:46:30,160 --> 01:46:32,599
Speaker 1: you can say. If you're gonna tell me the Chiefs defense,

1975
01:46:32,640 --> 01:46:34,479
Speaker 1: there's what the difference was in that game. Okay, I'll

1976
01:46:34,520 --> 01:46:40,559
Speaker 1: listen to that. But man, oh man, I'm just you

1977
01:46:40,680 --> 01:46:42,800
Speaker 1: gotta do what you do well. That's where the league

1978
01:46:42,840 --> 01:46:46,360
Speaker 1: is these days. You play to your strengths and darra

1979
01:46:46,479 --> 01:46:49,280
Speaker 1: team to beat you with their strengths, and if you're

1980
01:46:49,280 --> 01:46:51,760
Speaker 1: good enough defensively, you got to you gotta chip away

1981
01:46:51,760 --> 01:46:54,479
Speaker 1: at what they do well and or take whatever it

1982
01:46:54,560 --> 01:46:58,439
Speaker 1: takes something away from them because the Bills. If the

1983
01:46:58,560 --> 01:47:00,439
Speaker 1: other teams say, well, we took your run game away,

1984
01:47:00,439 --> 01:47:02,719
Speaker 1: and that's okay. Josh scored forty six on you guys.

1985
01:47:03,320 --> 01:47:07,160
Speaker 1: You know, so that's where you're at. Don't worry about

1986
01:47:07,160 --> 01:47:09,880
Speaker 1: fixing last year's problems. This year will have problems of

1987
01:47:09,880 --> 01:47:12,320
Speaker 1: its own. I'm gonna trust you. Let's get back to

1988
01:47:12,360 --> 01:47:14,720
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet where we were asking you today. Who

1989
01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:17,920
Speaker 1: will benefit the most on this Bill's roster from participating

1990
01:47:18,040 --> 01:47:20,439
Speaker 1: in preseason games. Who will be able to show their

1991
01:47:20,439 --> 01:47:23,880
Speaker 1: wears for lack of a better term, Jack says on

1992
01:47:24,120 --> 01:47:28,320
Speaker 1: d it's Ed Oliver. I think he gets some practice squad.

1993
01:47:28,479 --> 01:47:31,479
Speaker 1: I think he gets some PS games oh preseason games

1994
01:47:31,479 --> 01:47:33,679
Speaker 1: and continues to grow into a force as a slashing

1995
01:47:33,760 --> 01:47:36,840
Speaker 1: penetrator at defensive tackle on offense. I think it could

1996
01:47:36,880 --> 01:47:39,800
Speaker 1: be Christian Wade Chris, don't say it can't be done.

1997
01:47:40,080 --> 01:47:42,280
Speaker 1: The guy has speed and is a natural athlete. He

1998
01:47:42,320 --> 01:47:44,000
Speaker 1: may finally get a shot to show what he can

1999
01:47:44,040 --> 01:47:46,559
Speaker 1: really do. Hey, I'm not down on Christian Wade. I

2000
01:47:46,640 --> 01:47:49,160
Speaker 1: just I'm trying to be real about the things that

2001
01:47:49,200 --> 01:47:54,559
Speaker 1: are working against him, which are natural instincts, experience with

2002
01:47:54,720 --> 01:47:57,680
Speaker 1: how to read a defense, and knowing what his responsibilities

2003
01:47:57,680 --> 01:47:59,559
Speaker 1: are in the snap of a finger. That's not just

2004
01:47:59,600 --> 01:48:03,479
Speaker 1: something somebody naturally acquires. It's something that's honed and grown

2005
01:48:03,920 --> 01:48:06,240
Speaker 1: over years of playing the game. And he's trying to

2006
01:48:06,280 --> 01:48:10,120
Speaker 1: just parachute into the NFL. That's a that's a hard ask. Yeah,

2007
01:48:10,120 --> 01:48:12,080
Speaker 1: And maybe maybe he heard me early in the in

2008
01:48:12,120 --> 01:48:14,160
Speaker 1: the program say I think Christian Wade's a long shot.

2009
01:48:14,240 --> 01:48:17,120
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna say I still believe that. Um, not

2010
01:48:17,200 --> 01:48:18,800
Speaker 1: because he's not a good guy or because he's not

2011
01:48:18,800 --> 01:48:20,439
Speaker 1: a good player, but because he's in a room with

2012
01:48:20,479 --> 01:48:23,680
Speaker 1: some really good players and some really good players with

2013
01:48:23,760 --> 01:48:26,080
Speaker 1: some experience. Now he's been in it, will have been

2014
01:48:26,160 --> 01:48:29,920
Speaker 1: in this in this team, in this program for three

2015
01:48:30,040 --> 01:48:32,720
Speaker 1: full years. At the start of this training camp, it'll

2016
01:48:32,800 --> 01:48:38,559
Speaker 1: it'll be his third one, and he's got to show

2017
01:48:38,560 --> 01:48:41,680
Speaker 1: a lot of improvement and some instincts and some other

2018
01:48:41,720 --> 01:48:45,439
Speaker 1: stuff that people were probably not aware of. Um certainly

2019
01:48:45,479 --> 01:48:48,840
Speaker 1: he's got the physical ability and he's you know, to

2020
01:48:49,120 --> 01:48:53,320
Speaker 1: be a really good running back in the NFL. But

2021
01:48:53,439 --> 01:48:55,120
Speaker 1: he's in the room with some guys who know how

2022
01:48:55,160 --> 01:48:57,200
Speaker 1: to do it and have shown that they know how

2023
01:48:57,240 --> 01:48:59,160
Speaker 1: to do it. That's a that's a big ask. Oliver

2024
01:48:59,360 --> 01:49:04,240
Speaker 1: is a curious choice by Jack on the defensive side

2025
01:49:04,240 --> 01:49:06,920
Speaker 1: of the ball. In terms of a player could benefit

2026
01:49:06,960 --> 01:49:09,880
Speaker 1: from preseason games. I would tend to think that Jack

2027
01:49:10,040 --> 01:49:11,880
Speaker 1: is of the belief that he needs to run up

2028
01:49:11,920 --> 01:49:15,960
Speaker 1: to the season alongside Star again to kind of get

2029
01:49:16,000 --> 01:49:18,320
Speaker 1: a feel for what he might be looking at. I

2030
01:49:18,439 --> 01:49:21,040
Speaker 1: just think all he needs are more one on one opportunities,

2031
01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:25,120
Speaker 1: and Star arguably should give him those opportunities. Because when

2032
01:49:25,280 --> 01:49:30,040
Speaker 1: Ed is one on one, I like that matchup against

2033
01:49:30,120 --> 01:49:31,920
Speaker 1: just about any but I still like it too. Here's

2034
01:49:31,960 --> 01:49:35,360
Speaker 1: the thing if, and this is a question for the

2035
01:49:35,400 --> 01:49:38,960
Speaker 1: coaching staff, if Ed's only going to be effective in

2036
01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:42,240
Speaker 1: the pass rush when Stars on the field, is it

2037
01:49:42,880 --> 01:49:46,040
Speaker 1: worth it to have those two guys on the field

2038
01:49:46,120 --> 01:49:48,720
Speaker 1: just so Ed can be more successful? Or do you

2039
01:49:48,720 --> 01:49:50,640
Speaker 1: put two guys on the feet two other guys on

2040
01:49:50,680 --> 01:49:53,559
Speaker 1: the field, who either one could be successful? Yeah, you

2041
01:49:53,560 --> 01:49:56,759
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Now, if if you put Starlo

2042
01:49:56,840 --> 01:49:58,760
Speaker 1: to Lelay out there along with Ed Oliver and all

2043
01:49:58,800 --> 01:50:00,400
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you know they're at least not gonna

2044
01:50:00,479 --> 01:50:03,519
Speaker 1: run against those jokers, right, I mean, these they're gonna

2045
01:50:03,560 --> 01:50:05,439
Speaker 1: hold their line and Ed's gonna be in the backfield.

2046
01:50:05,479 --> 01:50:09,720
Speaker 1: If you're not careful, that's another question. But for the

2047
01:50:09,760 --> 01:50:14,920
Speaker 1: coaching staff has to really decide who's gonna and maybe

2048
01:50:14,960 --> 01:50:18,360
Speaker 1: it's better that when you put Star out there, and

2049
01:50:18,439 --> 01:50:20,439
Speaker 1: you put a guy like Greg Rousseau out there, or

2050
01:50:20,479 --> 01:50:22,679
Speaker 1: a JP and S out there, and those the other

2051
01:50:22,720 --> 01:50:26,599
Speaker 1: team says, we can't single either one of those guys. Yeah,

2052
01:50:26,960 --> 01:50:28,720
Speaker 1: we got some issues. Now we're gonna have to keep

2053
01:50:28,720 --> 01:50:31,080
Speaker 1: a running back end to step up into the interior

2054
01:50:31,120 --> 01:50:33,880
Speaker 1: the line to help on Star, or a tight end

2055
01:50:33,920 --> 01:50:36,519
Speaker 1: to help on or the tackle moves down to help

2056
01:50:36,560 --> 01:50:38,040
Speaker 1: on Store. Now you got a tight end one on

2057
01:50:38,040 --> 01:50:41,120
Speaker 1: one on the defensive, you know all the combinations thereof,

2058
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:45,800
Speaker 1: then they might like that better. I guess. Basically what

2059
01:50:45,840 --> 01:50:48,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying is starlot La and Ed Oliver give you

2060
01:50:49,000 --> 01:50:54,519
Speaker 1: one little bit of production, whereas Star and Ed Rousseau

2061
01:50:54,640 --> 01:50:57,960
Speaker 1: or Boogie Basham or anybody else you want a j

2062
01:50:58,160 --> 01:51:01,040
Speaker 1: and or anybody else you want to name, right, Fao Bottom,

2063
01:51:01,080 --> 01:51:03,680
Speaker 1: maybe those guys are even better in the past situation.

2064
01:51:04,400 --> 01:51:08,439
Speaker 1: So those are all questions that need to be answered.

2065
01:51:08,439 --> 01:51:11,639
Speaker 1: And we've seen it, you know, throughout Sean mcdermot's tenure,

2066
01:51:11,720 --> 01:51:14,880
Speaker 1: in this preseason and the practices and in the games,

2067
01:51:14,880 --> 01:51:18,880
Speaker 1: we're going to see every possible combination of four guys

2068
01:51:18,960 --> 01:51:21,600
Speaker 1: rushing the passer so that they can I mean, you

2069
01:51:21,600 --> 01:51:27,000
Speaker 1: can picture it. They're just it's like moving board pieces

2070
01:51:27,040 --> 01:51:29,839
Speaker 1: around who plays better with who and from what spot,

2071
01:51:30,520 --> 01:51:32,960
Speaker 1: And by the time the regular season rolls around, they'll

2072
01:51:32,960 --> 01:51:34,680
Speaker 1: have it honed in on a little bit, but they

2073
01:51:34,720 --> 01:51:38,760
Speaker 1: still won't know. Yeah. Interesting take here from Bills and

2074
01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:43,320
Speaker 1: Mets fan. He picks Trubisky because he will get tons

2075
01:51:43,360 --> 01:51:45,400
Speaker 1: of snaps and show the league that he isn't done.

2076
01:51:45,760 --> 01:51:47,439
Speaker 1: It won't do much for us, but it will do

2077
01:51:47,479 --> 01:51:50,200
Speaker 1: a lot for him either getting a starting job next year,

2078
01:51:50,240 --> 01:51:53,639
Speaker 1: approving to Dable that he's his quarterback when he becomes

2079
01:51:53,640 --> 01:51:58,920
Speaker 1: a head coach elsewhere. Oh that's a tasty and the

2080
01:51:58,920 --> 01:52:01,000
Speaker 1: Bill's Mets fans, I'm going out of left field, off

2081
01:52:01,000 --> 01:52:03,120
Speaker 1: the top, right, like it, right, it's a great point.

2082
01:52:03,960 --> 01:52:06,479
Speaker 1: Trubisky's auditioning for one of the hot candidates to become

2083
01:52:06,479 --> 01:52:12,320
Speaker 1: a head coach next year in a free agent year. Yeah,

2084
01:52:12,479 --> 01:52:15,040
Speaker 1: that's interesting. That's pretty interesting. I guess that gives me.

2085
01:52:15,120 --> 01:52:18,960
Speaker 1: That gives me pause, Brownie. It's a unique take on

2086
01:52:19,120 --> 01:52:22,599
Speaker 1: this subject today. It is, and it's um and that's

2087
01:52:22,880 --> 01:52:24,800
Speaker 1: I will say that. Hopefully that's the most we see

2088
01:52:24,800 --> 01:52:28,439
Speaker 1: if Trubisky in twenty twenty one. Right, But that's also

2089
01:52:28,479 --> 01:52:31,280
Speaker 1: and I get it, but that's that's down the line,

2090
01:52:31,360 --> 01:52:34,200
Speaker 1: and I and I don't think and I know preseason's

2091
01:52:34,240 --> 01:52:39,040
Speaker 1: preseason and all that, but Brian Dayble, because Trubisky's number

2092
01:52:39,080 --> 01:52:40,960
Speaker 1: two for the entire season, don't worry about I mean,

2093
01:52:41,200 --> 01:52:44,479
Speaker 1: it's done. So Dabele's gonna see Mitch Drubisky all day,

2094
01:52:44,520 --> 01:52:46,760
Speaker 1: every day during the season anyway. So the preseason is

2095
01:52:46,800 --> 01:52:50,840
Speaker 1: what it is, but it will go a long way

2096
01:52:50,920 --> 01:52:54,400
Speaker 1: towards when if if it were to happen hypothetically that

2097
01:52:54,800 --> 01:52:56,720
Speaker 1: Dabele got a head coaching Johnny says, and they go,

2098
01:52:56,760 --> 01:52:58,880
Speaker 1: what do you think about Trubisky? And day Bole says,

2099
01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:02,840
Speaker 1: on your roster, right, now he's the guy or not.

2100
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Speaker 1: So yeah, the best option right now. He's the best

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Speaker 1: option right now, you know. But from the last couple

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Speaker 1: of years, there's gonna be some other options available in

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Speaker 1: the quarterback market. We've it's just there's too much movement

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01:53:15,840 --> 01:53:21,240
Speaker 1: in the offseason these days. So Trubisky will be auditioning

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01:53:21,400 --> 01:53:24,800
Speaker 1: every day for a guy who a lot of people

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01:53:24,800 --> 01:53:26,400
Speaker 1: think it's going to be a head coach. That's a

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01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:30,559
Speaker 1: really interesting take. I like it. I do too. I

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01:53:30,600 --> 01:53:33,080
Speaker 1: think he's right. I think I do too. But you know,

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Speaker 1: for me, though, I don't care about next year, I'm

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01:53:35,120 --> 01:53:37,040
Speaker 1: talking about this year. Who's gonna help us this year?

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Speaker 1: Eli says for me, that's easy Isaiah Hodgins and Mitchell Trubisky.

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Speaker 1: Hodgins will unleash his potential if he stays healthy, which

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Speaker 1: hopefully will make him earn a roster spot, I said

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01:53:48,640 --> 01:53:50,880
Speaker 1: Trubisky because he will do his best to look great

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01:53:50,920 --> 01:53:54,640
Speaker 1: so next season he can land a good contract. So yeah,

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01:53:54,560 --> 01:53:56,839
Speaker 1: Mo than people are thinking the same way. Yeah, although

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01:53:57,200 --> 01:54:01,040
Speaker 1: going a step further with day ball maybe or maybe

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01:54:01,080 --> 01:54:03,960
Speaker 1: not landing a head coaching job. That's really intriguing to me.

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Speaker 1: That's a that's a great spin on that I hadn't

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01:54:05,880 --> 01:54:11,360
Speaker 1: thought about it. Trubiskie will be available and he will

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01:54:11,439 --> 01:54:15,959
Speaker 1: have basically worked every day with Davill for a calendar

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01:54:16,080 --> 01:54:18,439
Speaker 1: year by the time you get to the end of

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01:54:18,479 --> 01:54:22,719
Speaker 1: the season, hopefully, and he'll know him inside now whether

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01:54:22,760 --> 01:54:24,360
Speaker 1: he's a guy that he feels he could win with

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01:54:24,560 --> 01:54:28,640
Speaker 1: somewhere else. Yeah, and or even if day Ball says, listen, Mitchum,

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01:54:30,600 --> 01:54:33,760
Speaker 1: we're gonna draft a quarterback because he's gonna go to

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01:54:33,800 --> 01:54:36,040
Speaker 1: a bad team. Say, for instance, he goes to I

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01:54:36,120 --> 01:54:40,040
Speaker 1: don't know whatever the Cardinal knocked Cardinals, I don't know wherever.

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01:54:40,120 --> 01:54:43,280
Speaker 1: He goes Denver. So he goes to Denver. Denver lays

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01:54:43,320 --> 01:54:45,160
Speaker 1: an egg. This year gets a new head coach. Vic

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01:54:45,240 --> 01:54:48,400
Speaker 1: Fangio's out. Brian Dable is in. They got a top

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01:54:48,440 --> 01:54:49,920
Speaker 1: pick of the draft, and they're gonna a pick of

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01:54:49,920 --> 01:54:51,640
Speaker 1: the one of their guys. And he's day Ball saying, listen,

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01:54:51,640 --> 01:54:54,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna pick up a guy. We're gonna draft him,

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01:54:54,040 --> 01:54:55,600
Speaker 1: but we'd like to bring you in on a two

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01:54:55,680 --> 01:54:59,200
Speaker 1: year deal to play until his kid's ready. No matter

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01:54:59,240 --> 01:55:06,600
Speaker 1: who it is, are you up for that? It's pretty intriguing, Yeah,

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01:55:06,960 --> 01:55:10,480
Speaker 1: pretty intriguing. RJ. On the tweet sheet says Emmanuel Sanders

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01:55:10,480 --> 01:55:13,800
Speaker 1: and Spencer Brown for offense getting used to our momentum

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01:55:13,840 --> 01:55:16,600
Speaker 1: and the way it goes. And for defense to see

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01:55:16,600 --> 01:55:18,720
Speaker 1: if Greg and Boogie have the high motor we need

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01:55:18,760 --> 01:55:23,400
Speaker 1: for the D line. Yeah, I mean, the best chance

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01:55:23,440 --> 01:55:26,640
Speaker 1: for Rousseau and Bash him to show there on the

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01:55:26,680 --> 01:55:30,160
Speaker 1: fast track in terms of learning curve is going to

2145
01:55:30,240 --> 01:55:33,440
Speaker 1: be in the preseason. That's going to be their best

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01:55:33,520 --> 01:55:37,280
Speaker 1: opportunity to say I'm ready now. You an't gotta wait.

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01:55:37,320 --> 01:55:40,120
Speaker 1: You don't have to wait on me. You can put

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Speaker 1: me in now and depend on me and I can

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Speaker 1: make a difference. Preseason is the time for them to

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01:55:46,920 --> 01:55:48,960
Speaker 1: do that. Show up and show out if you want

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01:55:48,960 --> 01:55:51,240
Speaker 1: to get on the field sooner rather than later on

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01:55:51,280 --> 01:55:57,320
Speaker 1: this roster, right, that's that's right. I don't like that

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01:55:57,960 --> 01:56:00,520
Speaker 1: he's got you know, young guys Spencer Brown, Boogie and

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01:56:00,680 --> 01:56:04,560
Speaker 1: and Greg, but also Emmanuel Sanders. Sanders to me is

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01:56:04,600 --> 01:56:07,440
Speaker 1: a given. I mean for him, it's just important for him,

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01:56:07,520 --> 01:56:11,280
Speaker 1: he's gonna be good enough to play. Yeah, but that's

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01:56:11,280 --> 01:56:14,040
Speaker 1: about get everybody else comfy with you, and you get

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Speaker 1: comfy with everybody else. That's for Emmanuel Sanders that's it. Certainly,

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01:56:17,200 --> 01:56:19,800
Speaker 1: that's going to help. And for a guy that came

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Speaker 1: in for a one year deal, I think Sanders is

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01:56:23,160 --> 01:56:25,720
Speaker 1: an important cog. He's got to play well. They they

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01:56:25,800 --> 01:56:30,760
Speaker 1: don't want to trade John Brown for a stiff that

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01:56:30,760 --> 01:56:33,680
Speaker 1: that offense was clicking too well with all those guys

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01:56:33,760 --> 01:56:35,440
Speaker 1: to change a part out and all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: having a hamstrung in any way, shape or form. I

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01:56:37,600 --> 01:56:41,960
Speaker 1: know Emmanuel Sanders is not John Brown, but yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think that's for this season, certainly for expectations sake. Emmanuel

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Speaker 1: Sanders is a really important piece Jay's he says, Matt

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Speaker 1: Breda and Emmanuel Sanders, so they can get to know

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01:56:53,880 --> 01:56:57,040
Speaker 1: the playbook better going through the motions out there. Antonio

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01:56:57,160 --> 01:57:00,879
Speaker 1: Williams might have a chance to shine. Also, Dawson Knoxie

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01:57:00,960 --> 01:57:02,480
Speaker 1: him go to tight end camp. He could be a

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01:57:02,520 --> 01:57:07,080
Speaker 1: stud this year. Golden Toe Bass also because kickers always

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Speaker 1: benefit from the preseason go bills. A lot of names

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01:57:11,840 --> 01:57:15,000
Speaker 1: in there, Golden Toe, think about it, Steve. Last year

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01:57:15,720 --> 01:57:18,480
Speaker 1: Bass got off to a rough start. He didn't have

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Speaker 1: preseason games to take advantage of get put in game situations,

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Speaker 1: and it was a little rocky there at the beginning. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll say this though, coming back this year, it could

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01:57:27,960 --> 01:57:30,240
Speaker 1: not have gone better for him last year because at

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01:57:30,480 --> 01:57:32,880
Speaker 1: one he was on a team that he never cost

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01:57:32,960 --> 01:57:35,240
Speaker 1: him a game, cost him some points, miss some kicks

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01:57:35,240 --> 01:57:39,000
Speaker 1: early on, no question, but he also contributed in a

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01:57:39,000 --> 01:57:40,720
Speaker 1: big way, and he was on a team with an

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01:57:40,720 --> 01:57:43,160
Speaker 1: offense like the Bills had last year, and he got

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01:57:43,520 --> 01:57:47,720
Speaker 1: a boatload of opportunity yep, three fifty plus yards in

2187
01:57:47,760 --> 01:57:50,800
Speaker 1: Arizona in the first quarter, first half, whatever was eight

2188
01:57:50,800 --> 01:57:53,160
Speaker 1: attempts in the Jets, eight attempts in the Jets game,

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01:57:53,240 --> 01:57:56,160
Speaker 1: he provided all the points, So it was I think,

2190
01:57:56,240 --> 01:57:58,840
Speaker 1: looking back on it, it could not have gone better

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01:57:59,360 --> 01:58:02,200
Speaker 1: for Tyler Bass than it did last year unless you

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01:58:02,200 --> 01:58:06,000
Speaker 1: would have made every single kick, which is almost unreasonable

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01:58:06,040 --> 01:58:10,640
Speaker 1: to assume. But I'm coming back. I expect him to

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01:58:10,680 --> 01:58:13,240
Speaker 1: pick up right where he left off. Now he's gonna

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01:58:13,240 --> 01:58:17,840
Speaker 1: have Matt Hawk holding form, which is different than Borkes,

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01:58:18,040 --> 01:58:22,720
Speaker 1: so we'll see. But I don't Yeah, Hawk did it

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01:58:22,800 --> 01:58:26,040
Speaker 1: for did it for the kicker in Miami, and he

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01:58:26,080 --> 01:58:29,240
Speaker 1: caught from the brother of this long snapper, so it

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01:58:29,280 --> 01:58:33,600
Speaker 1: should be a seamless transition. So I'm yes, I think

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01:58:33,600 --> 01:58:35,360
Speaker 1: Tyler Bassie, and it'll be good for him to get

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Speaker 1: out of get him, get him some game reps because

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01:58:37,640 --> 01:58:39,200
Speaker 1: he didn't get any of those last year. Coming in

2203
01:58:39,200 --> 01:58:41,800
Speaker 1: as a rookie, it's got to be pretty intimidating. And

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Speaker 1: Antonio Williams is an interesting one because he's got a

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01:58:44,720 --> 01:58:47,200
Speaker 1: tough position group to crack as well. You know, he's

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Speaker 1: got the veteran Matt Breed to coming in as a

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01:58:49,080 --> 01:58:52,440
Speaker 1: free agent presumably, And I think the only thing that

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01:58:52,480 --> 01:58:55,160
Speaker 1: could change that dynamic is how ready is Zach Moss.

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Speaker 1: The anticipation is he will be full go and cleared

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01:58:58,880 --> 01:59:02,520
Speaker 1: for training camp coming off the ankle surgery, right, but

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01:59:03,000 --> 01:59:06,080
Speaker 1: if he is slowed in any way or for any reason,

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01:59:07,680 --> 01:59:10,920
Speaker 1: huge opportunity for Antonio Williams to maybe be the third

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Speaker 1: running back at the start of the season. If for

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Speaker 1: some reason Zach Moss isn't ready. Yeah, there's no you

2215
01:59:16,040 --> 01:59:18,600
Speaker 1: can't say enough about what Antonio Williams did the last

2216
01:59:18,840 --> 01:59:20,880
Speaker 1: game of the regular season last year when he played

2217
01:59:20,920 --> 01:59:25,640
Speaker 1: the second half and just absolutely steamrolled the Dolphins. So

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01:59:26,840 --> 01:59:29,440
Speaker 1: there's nothing that he's got to feel like. He's got

2219
01:59:29,440 --> 01:59:30,800
Speaker 1: to feel like, man, this is a team I can

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01:59:30,880 --> 01:59:34,520
Speaker 1: play for. Let's go. But like every other position group

2221
01:59:34,520 --> 01:59:35,960
Speaker 1: we've been talking about, it is a tough roster to

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01:59:36,000 --> 01:59:37,880
Speaker 1: make as good as he played last year in the

2223
01:59:37,960 --> 01:59:40,840
Speaker 1: limited time that he got, there are guys sitting there

2224
01:59:40,880 --> 01:59:43,520
Speaker 1: that are deemed by the coaching staff over a long

2225
01:59:43,600 --> 01:59:45,800
Speaker 1: period of time to be better than him. So he's

2226
01:59:45,840 --> 01:59:48,320
Speaker 1: got something to prove, no question, despite what he did

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Speaker 1: in that week's seventeen game. We step aside here, but

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Speaker 1: we'll be back to wrap up the tweet chet and

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01:59:53,760 --> 01:59:57,040
Speaker 1: knock out a little NFL true false. It's coming your

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Speaker 1: way next here on One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 1: This is buff Hello, Bills Radio, welcome back. Wrapping up

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Speaker 1: there now and done. The true sheet is. We've been

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Speaker 1: asking you who you feel on the Bills roster will

2234
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Speaker 1: benefit the most from playing preseason games this summer. Whether

2235
02:00:23,120 --> 02:00:25,560
Speaker 1: you think it's an unproven player, maybe it's a veteran player.

2236
02:00:26,760 --> 02:00:31,040
Speaker 1: That's an interesting submission so far. Mitchell Trubisky a very

2237
02:00:31,040 --> 02:00:35,360
Speaker 1: interesting one. Here's another one see from Sharon Star. He's

2238
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Speaker 1: a seasoned professional. We didn't play last year, and even

2239
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Speaker 1: though he kept himself in shape by working out, there's

2240
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Speaker 1: nothing like the physical contact of being on the line

2241
02:00:43,640 --> 02:00:45,080
Speaker 1: and getting the true feel of the game again, I

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02:00:45,360 --> 02:00:47,600
Speaker 1: would agree with that. There's also nothing like some free

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02:00:47,600 --> 02:00:49,600
Speaker 1: time to get your body. Well, that's true. Well, I

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02:00:49,600 --> 02:00:51,480
Speaker 1: mean to get back into the feel of it. For

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Speaker 1: a nine year veteran, what are we talking three series? Yeah? Maybe,

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02:00:54,480 --> 02:00:59,760
Speaker 1: but also you know, the endurance factor that'll all come

2247
02:00:59,800 --> 02:01:01,760
Speaker 1: back in training camp. He'll be ready to play a game,

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02:01:01,840 --> 02:01:03,960
Speaker 1: particularly the way they rotate him in and out. But

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Speaker 1: I think the one thing is sitting at home watching

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Speaker 1: the team play and win fifteen games. Being a first

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Speaker 1: round draft pick. I mean, he's he's used to some

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02:01:14,880 --> 02:01:17,400
Speaker 1: success and then watch the team do what they did

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02:01:17,480 --> 02:01:20,760
Speaker 1: last year. And he's alluded to this in some of

2254
02:01:20,760 --> 02:01:25,280
Speaker 1: his remarks at training camp. Really kind of what's it

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02:01:25,440 --> 02:01:28,800
Speaker 1: whet his appetite to come back, kind of like I

2256
02:01:28,840 --> 02:01:32,320
Speaker 1: want you know, he sounded reinvigorated when we saw him

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02:01:32,360 --> 02:01:34,600
Speaker 1: on the Zoom call at the media Yeah's and that's

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02:01:34,760 --> 02:01:37,760
Speaker 1: I think it kind of piqued his interest in playing

2259
02:01:37,800 --> 02:01:40,000
Speaker 1: well and being back part of this group again. He

2260
02:01:40,120 --> 02:01:42,600
Speaker 1: really wants to be on this team and be back

2261
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Speaker 1: in the league and play, and I think that's must

2262
02:01:45,160 --> 02:01:47,880
Speaker 1: that should be encouraging for Bill's fans as well, that

2263
02:01:47,960 --> 02:01:51,560
Speaker 1: they got a guy like that who really maximized his

2264
02:01:51,640 --> 02:01:54,680
Speaker 1: time off by staying in shape, getting healthy, staying fresh,

2265
02:01:55,160 --> 02:01:58,640
Speaker 1: being fresh, and the rejuvenating his attitude about coming back

2266
02:01:58,880 --> 02:02:01,200
Speaker 1: instead of just getting on with a long you know,

2267
02:02:01,720 --> 02:02:04,640
Speaker 1: a good career that he's had, but you know, getting

2268
02:02:04,720 --> 02:02:07,600
Speaker 1: hungry again and say, man, it's in realizing how fun

2269
02:02:07,640 --> 02:02:08,880
Speaker 1: it is to be a part of the team. So

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Speaker 1: I think that might be an added benefit for him

2271
02:02:11,400 --> 02:02:13,680
Speaker 1: coming back this year and even in the preseason, to

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02:02:13,720 --> 02:02:17,360
Speaker 1: come back a little fresh. Robert says, Honestly, I think

2273
02:02:17,400 --> 02:02:19,640
Speaker 1: a j Epanessa. He has put some weight back on,

2274
02:02:19,720 --> 02:02:22,080
Speaker 1: stayed local in the off season, and is highly motivated

2275
02:02:22,080 --> 02:02:24,880
Speaker 1: by the Bills twenty twenty one draft. The guy will

2276
02:02:24,880 --> 02:02:29,960
Speaker 1: have a breakout season. Competition raises all boats he does.

2277
02:02:31,320 --> 02:02:34,040
Speaker 1: He's got, he's got rousseau and bashing, breathing down his neck,

2278
02:02:34,040 --> 02:02:36,600
Speaker 1: and he's got two vets. He's trying to earn playing

2279
02:02:36,640 --> 02:02:40,160
Speaker 1: time away from Yeah, I wonder what I wonder, if anything,

2280
02:02:40,200 --> 02:02:45,240
Speaker 1: if there were conversations between Sean McDermott and aj Eponess

2281
02:02:45,320 --> 02:02:47,920
Speaker 1: about the fact that they drafted two guys one and

2282
02:02:47,960 --> 02:02:51,800
Speaker 1: two in the NFL Draft, at his position. I gotta

2283
02:02:51,840 --> 02:02:56,000
Speaker 1: say something, and now I get it too. Jerry's long

2284
02:02:56,040 --> 02:02:58,960
Speaker 1: in the tooth, Mario Addison's long in the tooth, and

2285
02:02:59,000 --> 02:03:04,000
Speaker 1: their contracts almost tell you that being here in twenty

2286
02:03:04,120 --> 02:03:07,800
Speaker 1: twenty two is more unlikely than right. But I also

2287
02:03:07,920 --> 02:03:09,560
Speaker 1: think too that there may be some of the if

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Speaker 1: there may be some situations where you get these guys

2289
02:03:12,560 --> 02:03:15,360
Speaker 1: in here and all of a sudden, you know, Mario's

2290
02:03:15,400 --> 02:03:20,320
Speaker 1: not here, or you know, or somebody else's not here.

2291
02:03:20,360 --> 02:03:22,840
Speaker 1: You know, who knows. It could happen not only on

2292
02:03:22,880 --> 02:03:25,200
Speaker 1: the defensive line, but also on the offensive line as well.

2293
02:03:26,600 --> 02:03:28,440
Speaker 1: There's all. It used to be an old and not

2294
02:03:28,480 --> 02:03:30,040
Speaker 1: so much anymore, But there used to be an old

2295
02:03:30,080 --> 02:03:32,720
Speaker 1: adage that every training camp, and particularly in my career

2296
02:03:32,760 --> 02:03:35,240
Speaker 1: and early on in my career, guys would say, yeah,

2297
02:03:35,400 --> 02:03:37,720
Speaker 1: there's always one guy on the team that is an

2298
02:03:37,760 --> 02:03:42,200
Speaker 1: absolute shocker that they cut well. And Brandt addresses that

2299
02:03:42,320 --> 02:03:45,520
Speaker 1: very subject here with his submission. Besides the obvious pick

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02:03:45,520 --> 02:03:47,880
Speaker 1: of Greg Rousseau and Boogie, it's Cody Ford for me.

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Speaker 1: Coming off an injury shortened season, he needs to prove

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Speaker 1: that the Bills made the right call to trade up

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02:03:52,920 --> 02:03:54,880
Speaker 1: to pick him. If he doesn't, I could see being

2304
02:03:54,960 --> 02:03:57,040
Speaker 1: training him for a draft pick, which he loves to have.

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02:03:58,480 --> 02:04:01,280
Speaker 1: I don't think we can rule out that area. He'd

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Speaker 1: have some cache with other teams, young offensive lineman, big body,

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Speaker 1: second round pick, coming back off a year where they

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Speaker 1: maybe think they could get a bargain on him, you

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02:04:11,720 --> 02:04:13,720
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Maybe they wouldn't have to give

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02:04:13,840 --> 02:04:16,800
Speaker 1: up a second or a third. Right, there's no secret

2311
02:04:16,800 --> 02:04:18,440
Speaker 1: this team is top. Have you had a handful of

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02:04:18,440 --> 02:04:22,280
Speaker 1: positions and if everybody stays healthy at those respective positions

2313
02:04:22,280 --> 02:04:25,600
Speaker 1: and the cream rises to the top and he's only rookie. Deal, Yeah,

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02:04:25,640 --> 02:04:27,920
Speaker 1: there could be some players on this roster that get

2315
02:04:27,960 --> 02:04:31,440
Speaker 1: traded away for draft capital in what is going to

2316
02:04:31,480 --> 02:04:35,040
Speaker 1: be an extraordinarily deep draft class. And you think around it,

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02:04:35,080 --> 02:04:36,760
Speaker 1: could you could you get a guy like a defensive

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02:04:36,760 --> 02:04:39,880
Speaker 1: lineman like Cam Hayward and trade him for Cody Ford

2319
02:04:39,880 --> 02:04:43,000
Speaker 1: Because if Pittsburgh Pittsburgh needs an offensive lineman, Buffalo would

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02:04:43,000 --> 02:04:46,600
Speaker 1: love more defensive lineman, you know, particularly interior guys Cam

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Speaker 1: Hayward might be. Although Hayward is a three four and

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02:04:51,400 --> 02:04:53,200
Speaker 1: not a four three guy. I don't know how he would.

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02:04:53,240 --> 02:04:54,760
Speaker 1: I don't know how I don't know what his history

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02:04:54,840 --> 02:04:59,160
Speaker 1: is with that difference. Stuff like that could happen instead

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02:04:59,200 --> 02:05:01,400
Speaker 1: of for draft CAB could be just for player for player.

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02:05:02,240 --> 02:05:04,800
Speaker 1: And late in the preseason is when that stuff kind

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02:05:04,800 --> 02:05:07,560
Speaker 1: of happens. Not only get late in the preseason, you

2328
02:05:07,600 --> 02:05:13,840
Speaker 1: get players signing extensions, you get trades happening, and you

2329
02:05:13,880 --> 02:05:19,000
Speaker 1: get surprise cuts. Yep, and that's you. You can bet

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02:05:19,000 --> 02:05:20,800
Speaker 1: all three of those are in play here for the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. So thanks for your comments on the tweet

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02:05:24,320 --> 02:05:27,040
Speaker 1: sheet today. Had some really good submissions today. I was

2333
02:05:27,160 --> 02:05:29,480
Speaker 1: pretty pretty pleased with our listening audience with some of

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02:05:29,520 --> 02:05:33,280
Speaker 1: the names they threw at us. But time now for

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02:05:33,320 --> 02:05:36,800
Speaker 1: a little NFL true false, which, as we know, was

2336
02:05:36,840 --> 02:05:41,080
Speaker 1: brought to you by Yancey's Fancy New York's artisan Cheese.

2337
02:05:41,640 --> 02:05:46,560
Speaker 1: So we begin Steve with NFL true false Number one,

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02:05:47,320 --> 02:05:52,840
Speaker 1: The NFL Scouting Combine should remain in Indianapolis. This is

2339
02:05:52,840 --> 02:05:58,400
Speaker 1: obviously in reference to the report that at cities will

2340
02:05:58,400 --> 02:06:01,400
Speaker 1: be able to bid on the right to host the

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02:06:01,520 --> 02:06:06,120
Speaker 1: NFL Combine, which could become a movable event going forward.

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02:06:07,760 --> 02:06:11,280
Speaker 1: So true false NFL Combines should remain in Indianapolis an

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02:06:11,280 --> 02:06:15,680
Speaker 1: annual basis false I'm gonna say false. Ye of the

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02:06:15,840 --> 02:06:19,480
Speaker 1: NFL city idea says it should be movable. Absolutely, it

2345
02:06:19,520 --> 02:06:23,360
Speaker 1: should be movable. I'm if it is open to do,

2346
02:06:23,440 --> 02:06:25,480
Speaker 1: if it works that way into doing it, yeah, I

2347
02:06:25,520 --> 02:06:28,080
Speaker 1: think it absolutely should be movable. Just like the draft.

2348
02:06:30,120 --> 02:06:33,160
Speaker 1: You got a lot of interest in it, growing interest

2349
02:06:33,200 --> 02:06:35,360
Speaker 1: in it, I would say, And certainly it's not gonna

2350
02:06:37,680 --> 02:06:40,480
Speaker 1: and people say, well, it should be centralizing. Un come on,

2351
02:06:42,040 --> 02:06:44,120
Speaker 1: it's a jet flight. It's a jet flight no matter what,

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02:06:44,280 --> 02:06:46,640
Speaker 1: so nobody cares it is. It can be in Seattle

2353
02:06:46,720 --> 02:06:49,240
Speaker 1: for all anybody. I think the reason why Indianapolis was

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02:06:49,280 --> 02:06:52,800
Speaker 1: initially chosen is it's relatively central for most of the

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02:06:52,880 --> 02:06:57,920
Speaker 1: league's teams. Mostly it's because they had the facilities set

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02:06:58,000 --> 02:07:00,360
Speaker 1: up and it's downtown and nobody would wants they get there.

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02:07:00,360 --> 02:07:05,240
Speaker 1: They don't have to leave. I will say this, if

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02:07:05,240 --> 02:07:08,880
Speaker 1: it does start to jump around, if it is not

2359
02:07:09,240 --> 02:07:12,520
Speaker 1: giving the coaching and the football side of the NFL.

2360
02:07:12,720 --> 02:07:18,080
Speaker 1: That means coaches, scouts and gms, if it's not giving

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02:07:18,120 --> 02:07:21,840
Speaker 1: them what they're looking for in the combine because it's

2362
02:07:21,880 --> 02:07:23,960
Speaker 1: on the move, and now it becomes this glitzy red

2363
02:07:24,000 --> 02:07:28,400
Speaker 1: carpet whatever whatever thing it evolves into or devolves into.

2364
02:07:28,640 --> 02:07:31,560
Speaker 1: If it starts to be less than what they want

2365
02:07:31,600 --> 02:07:36,480
Speaker 1: it to be, they'll react one of two ways. One

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02:07:36,600 --> 02:07:38,560
Speaker 1: they'll put it back in Indianapolis and it'll never move,

2367
02:07:38,760 --> 02:07:41,480
Speaker 1: or two they'll have another thing. They'll say, all right, listen,

2368
02:07:41,480 --> 02:07:44,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna have this is the show. This is the show,

2369
02:07:44,160 --> 02:07:45,960
Speaker 1: and this is the nuts and bolts. Right, this is

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02:07:46,000 --> 02:07:47,760
Speaker 1: the show, and this is the reheart. This is where

2371
02:07:47,840 --> 02:07:51,160
Speaker 1: you know it actually counts. So all of that will

2372
02:07:51,320 --> 02:07:54,440
Speaker 1: is something's going to happen because the teams will continually

2373
02:07:54,520 --> 02:07:57,160
Speaker 1: look for ways they can find out more about these

2374
02:07:57,160 --> 02:08:00,880
Speaker 1: players that nobody else knows. Yeah, I think the reason

2375
02:08:00,960 --> 02:08:03,880
Speaker 1: this is up forbidding is one reason, and one reason

2376
02:08:03,920 --> 02:08:07,920
Speaker 1: only money, more revenue. They're always looking for new and

2377
02:08:08,120 --> 02:08:11,160
Speaker 1: added revenue streams, and this is an example that bid

2378
02:08:11,160 --> 02:08:13,560
Speaker 1: on our combine if you want it. And for those

2379
02:08:13,560 --> 02:08:15,600
Speaker 1: of you who don't know, and NHL has done that

2380
02:08:15,840 --> 02:08:18,120
Speaker 1: right for those of you who don't know, this actually

2381
02:08:18,160 --> 02:08:22,400
Speaker 1: means that a city like Indianapolis, or like Buffalo, or

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02:08:22,440 --> 02:08:26,360
Speaker 1: like Columbus or like Kansas City, name it, whatever city want,

2383
02:08:26,640 --> 02:08:30,440
Speaker 1: they actually cut a check to the NFL for like

2384
02:08:30,560 --> 02:08:34,200
Speaker 1: eighteen million dollars for a super Bowl. It's more like

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02:08:34,240 --> 02:08:38,400
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty five million dollars. Yeah, So, I mean,

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02:08:38,480 --> 02:08:40,440
Speaker 1: and that's a real that's a real thing. While I

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02:08:40,520 --> 02:08:44,200
Speaker 1: like the combine in Indianapolis, I'm not married to it.

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02:08:44,280 --> 02:08:48,960
Speaker 1: So I'll say false as well, NFL true false. Number two,

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02:08:49,880 --> 02:08:54,640
Speaker 1: The forty nine Ers should release or trade Jimmy Garoppolo

2390
02:08:55,080 --> 02:09:02,080
Speaker 1: if Trey Lance wins their starting quarterback job. No, no,

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02:09:02,240 --> 02:09:05,879
Speaker 1: Trey Lance is on his rookie deal. Let it ride, Yeah,

2392
02:09:06,080 --> 02:09:09,280
Speaker 1: let it ride. And Garoppolo's deal isn't even killing you, right,

2393
02:09:09,840 --> 02:09:12,000
Speaker 1: that's no, that isn't no you. I mean, if you

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02:09:12,000 --> 02:09:13,640
Speaker 1: want to get back to the super Bowl, you need

2395
02:09:13,680 --> 02:09:17,920
Speaker 1: a guy that's number two, that's got some cashe in

2396
02:09:17,960 --> 02:09:20,120
Speaker 1: the league, right like the Bills have that now all

2397
02:09:20,160 --> 02:09:22,720
Speaker 1: in Traubisky. You've got to have a guy that can

2398
02:09:23,200 --> 02:09:27,960
Speaker 1: get you there if your first guy goes down. Garoppolo

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02:09:27,960 --> 02:09:30,360
Speaker 1: has shown the ability to do it, so certainly. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'll say this from from us over here. I don't

2401
02:09:32,840 --> 02:09:35,680
Speaker 1: know he's been hurt a little bit, no question and

2402
02:09:35,720 --> 02:09:38,280
Speaker 1: all that, but here's the thing. They got to the

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02:09:38,320 --> 02:09:41,800
Speaker 1: super Bowl with that guy, which you think, Wow, that's great.

2404
02:09:41,800 --> 02:09:44,360
Speaker 1: And then here's the bad part of it. They feel

2405
02:09:44,400 --> 02:09:46,560
Speaker 1: like there was a there was a great sentiment. If

2406
02:09:46,560 --> 02:09:49,400
Speaker 1: you remember that they lost the Super Bowl because of

2407
02:09:49,440 --> 02:09:53,760
Speaker 1: that guy didn't make enough plays. He didn't make enough plays.

2408
02:09:54,400 --> 02:09:56,640
Speaker 1: They didn't let him throw it. They didn't even let

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02:09:56,680 --> 02:09:58,040
Speaker 1: him throw the ball. I don't know if it's on

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02:09:58,160 --> 02:10:01,400
Speaker 1: him as much as it's on Shanahan. Okay, so there

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02:10:01,400 --> 02:10:04,200
Speaker 1: you have it. They and they were again they played

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02:10:04,240 --> 02:10:08,680
Speaker 1: the Chiefs right, correct. So I mean, you know there's

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02:10:08,680 --> 02:10:11,320
Speaker 1: a long line starting. It's a growing list of quarterbacks

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02:10:11,320 --> 02:10:15,880
Speaker 1: that couldn't beat my homes. Yeah, so I'm no I

2415
02:10:16,560 --> 02:10:20,160
Speaker 1: hang on to Garoppolo especially now you know that's they

2416
02:10:20,240 --> 02:10:22,680
Speaker 1: feel like they San Francisco gonna feel like they got

2417
02:10:22,720 --> 02:10:25,320
Speaker 1: a window. Yeah, and they need if something happens with

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02:10:25,400 --> 02:10:28,440
Speaker 1: their guy, they can't drop off at that position. I

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02:10:28,480 --> 02:10:31,600
Speaker 1: say false too. I mean, short of having some catastrophic

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02:10:31,680 --> 02:10:33,680
Speaker 1: rash of injuries. Again in a position where you need

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02:10:33,720 --> 02:10:37,480
Speaker 1: to trade a piece to refurbish a position that's destitute,

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02:10:38,320 --> 02:10:40,760
Speaker 1: maybe you put Garoppolo in a package for that, But

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02:10:40,840 --> 02:10:42,720
Speaker 1: other than that, I say false. Yeah, all right, that's

2424
02:10:42,840 --> 02:10:45,760
Speaker 1: NFL true false brought to you by Yancy's fancy New

2425
02:10:45,880 --> 02:10:48,720
Speaker 1: York's artists in cheese break time for us. But Steve

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02:10:48,760 --> 02:10:51,440
Speaker 1: and I close it up with what have we learned? Next?

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Speaker 1: Here on One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health, It's

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. What have we learned from Today's show?

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02:11:11,600 --> 02:11:17,080
Speaker 1: Brought to you by Skyworks, the official construction equipment rental

2430
02:11:17,120 --> 02:11:23,160
Speaker 1: company of the Buffalo Bills. And you know, I gotta

2431
02:11:23,200 --> 02:11:26,040
Speaker 1: say I was given a new perspective on things with

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02:11:26,120 --> 02:11:29,280
Speaker 1: the Mitchell Trubisky submission by Bills and Mets fan. I

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02:11:29,360 --> 02:11:31,320
Speaker 1: know you were as well. I'm going to adopt that

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02:11:31,360 --> 02:11:35,040
Speaker 1: as my own claimate that I invented it. Well, you do,

2435
02:11:35,120 --> 02:11:39,360
Speaker 1: you do what you need to do. But I think

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02:11:39,360 --> 02:11:43,240
Speaker 1: it will be interesting and will it be a soothsayer take?

2437
02:11:44,280 --> 02:11:47,360
Speaker 1: You know, I think we all anticipate that if the

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02:11:47,400 --> 02:11:50,000
Speaker 1: Bills repeat some of the same success they had last

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02:11:50,080 --> 02:11:53,480
Speaker 1: year here in twenty twenty one, Brian Dable is as

2440
02:11:53,560 --> 02:11:56,000
Speaker 1: good as gone. We're already playing with house money in

2441
02:11:56,080 --> 02:12:01,200
Speaker 1: my estimation from the coordinator continuity standpoint right on the

2442
02:12:01,240 --> 02:12:05,400
Speaker 1: defensive side for that matter too, that's Fraser, so playing

2443
02:12:05,400 --> 02:12:09,920
Speaker 1: with house money this year. You know, hopefully they go

2444
02:12:10,000 --> 02:12:12,080
Speaker 1: all the way and then it makes the departures a

2445
02:12:12,120 --> 02:12:13,960
Speaker 1: little bit easier to take. But I think those are

2446
02:12:14,040 --> 02:12:16,680
Speaker 1: just a matter of when not if I agree. I agree,

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02:12:16,680 --> 02:12:19,360
Speaker 1: And I think that's one of the things we we

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02:12:19,480 --> 02:12:21,720
Speaker 1: have said and said over and over again that people

2449
02:12:21,760 --> 02:12:23,480
Speaker 1: believe it are starting to buy into it. It's tough.

2450
02:12:23,520 --> 02:12:26,800
Speaker 1: It's a tough roster to make. It's you're talking about

2451
02:12:27,600 --> 02:12:29,919
Speaker 1: usually at this time when we talk about the Buffalo

2452
02:12:30,000 --> 02:12:32,480
Speaker 1: Bills and they're who's important for training camp, you're talking

2453
02:12:32,480 --> 02:12:34,040
Speaker 1: about guys who actually are going to start. Who do

2454
02:12:34,120 --> 02:12:36,200
Speaker 1: they need to come through? Who's got to come through? Man,

2455
02:12:36,240 --> 02:12:38,360
Speaker 1: we gotta have somebody, you know. And now it's like, okay,

2456
02:12:38,400 --> 02:12:40,920
Speaker 1: well he might make he might make the fifty three, right,

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02:12:40,960 --> 02:12:42,720
Speaker 1: Those are the kind of conversations we're having. We had

2458
02:12:42,760 --> 02:12:45,600
Speaker 1: a conversation about Emmanuel Sanders. But you know he's not

2459
02:12:45,640 --> 02:12:47,640
Speaker 1: going to drop off the map. Yeah, you know, that's

2460
02:12:47,640 --> 02:12:50,440
Speaker 1: a guy that's been around the block a bunch, so

2461
02:12:50,600 --> 02:12:52,800
Speaker 1: you know he's going to drop in here and do

2462
02:12:52,840 --> 02:12:58,600
Speaker 1: what he does. So huge, huge training camp, mostly for

2463
02:13:00,080 --> 02:13:02,080
Speaker 1: guys who are still trying to find that first way

2464
02:13:02,120 --> 02:13:04,120
Speaker 1: to get on the field in a regular basis. And

2465
02:13:04,680 --> 02:13:08,040
Speaker 1: other than that, it's it's a hard roster to bust into.

2466
02:13:08,840 --> 02:13:12,600
Speaker 1: It is. And it's to the point now where fans

2467
02:13:12,640 --> 02:13:14,960
Speaker 1: are saying, well, can we hold on to that guy?

2468
02:13:15,400 --> 02:13:17,560
Speaker 1: Like can we sneak him on the practice squad or

2469
02:13:17,600 --> 02:13:20,600
Speaker 1: is he gonna get poached? Or should we trade somebody

2470
02:13:20,680 --> 02:13:22,560
Speaker 1: for draft capital since we won't be able to keep

2471
02:13:22,600 --> 02:13:27,400
Speaker 1: him anyway. Yeah, that's a nice problem to have as

2472
02:13:27,400 --> 02:13:30,120
Speaker 1: opposed to Janus. I hope somebody can play cornerback for

2473
02:13:30,240 --> 02:13:32,520
Speaker 1: us because we are thin there. That is just not

2474
02:13:32,600 --> 02:13:35,840
Speaker 1: the case, right, what happens if such and such twists

2475
02:13:35,840 --> 02:13:37,760
Speaker 1: as ankle, who are gonna who's gonna play? I got

2476
02:13:37,760 --> 02:13:40,800
Speaker 1: another two guys, So yeah, this is a deep roster.

2477
02:13:41,480 --> 02:13:43,680
Speaker 1: It's it's good. And like I said, and I'll say

2478
02:13:43,680 --> 02:13:46,520
Speaker 1: this again, don't worry about fixing all the problems as

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02:13:46,560 --> 02:13:48,120
Speaker 1: some of the problems or any of the problems we've

2480
02:13:48,160 --> 02:13:50,520
Speaker 1: had last year as a Buffalo Bill's football team. You're

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02:13:50,600 --> 02:13:54,160
Speaker 1: running game, run defense, the red zone defense as you said,

2482
02:13:54,240 --> 02:13:57,160
Speaker 1: or the pass rush. Don't worry about those problems. This

2483
02:13:57,200 --> 02:13:59,160
Speaker 1: is gonna hold new even though it's the same. Guys

2484
02:13:59,320 --> 02:14:01,520
Speaker 1: can be a team that in with me tomorrow. We'll

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02:14:01,560 --> 02:14:12,800
Speaker 1: see you there. M.