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Speaker 1: Second d Update. How do you know if you're dating
Speaker 1: a cheater? Oh gosh, how can you tell? I've thought
Speaker 1: about this. I was like, how can you tell if
Speaker 1: somebody's cheating on you? And I was like, well, nobody's
Speaker 1: ever cheated on me, because nobody ever would, so I
Speaker 1: don't really know. Now. I know Brooke has been cheated
Speaker 1: on a lot, So how could you tell brook when
Speaker 1: somebody was cheating on you? Well, hey, it's only happened once,
Speaker 1: and b I didn't know until after I well, okay
Speaker 1: he dumped me, but whatever. I didn't know the brand
Speaker 1: till after the breakup. Anna is on the phone with
Speaker 1: us today. She wants to do a second date update
Speaker 1: to a guy that she thinks might be a cheater.
Speaker 1: His name is Ralph. Anna, how are you doing great?
Speaker 1: How are you guys? Pretty good? Thank you for doing
Speaker 1: a second date update with us today. How did you
Speaker 1: meet this guy? I was volunteering at this event with
Speaker 1: a friend. Oh, so he's a homeless dude. No, we
Speaker 1: just you know, he was taking time out of his
Speaker 1: busy day to like volunteer at this event. He's not homeless. Okay,
Speaker 1: I guess I was confusing it. So you guys were
Speaker 1: working the same charity event thing together, Yes, exactly, So
Speaker 1: so far it sounds like a stand up guy. Is
Speaker 1: he the one that approached you at the event while
Speaker 1: we were talking? We were on the same station at
Speaker 1: the event, and a few hours of like working together,
Speaker 1: he asked me out. Okay, that's good. Nice and so
Speaker 1: what did you guys do? We went to dinner. We
Speaker 1: had sushi and we both enjoyed the same types of
Speaker 1: sushi rolls, which was you know, which sounds like love
Speaker 1: to me. I mean no, we really just bonded over dinner,
Speaker 1: like it was a really nice date. You know, it
Speaker 1: was really like a real chemistry going on, and he
Speaker 1: knew how to make me laugh, like he was just
Speaker 1: a nice person at that point. Was there any signs
Speaker 1: of him being a cheater like he was or in
Speaker 1: a wedding ring or you know, no, nothing like that. Nothing.
Speaker 1: He was acting like a single guy on the date. Okay,
Speaker 1: how did your date end with him. So this is
Speaker 1: where it got a little weird. You know, he walked
Speaker 1: me to my front door. I wanted to kiss him,
Speaker 1: but he took him so long, like he did, he
Speaker 1: was like avoiding it sort of. It felt like it
Speaker 1: was like he didn't just like go and fit the kiss. Okay,
Speaker 1: it felt awkward. He didn't feel natural at that point.
Speaker 1: But I just thought maybe he's just nervous. But he
Speaker 1: did kiss me, you know, a real kiss, and it
Speaker 1: was good. How much tongue? How much moderate? Okay? So
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, maybe you used too much tongue.
Speaker 1: He used to much tongue. And now he's like, I
Speaker 1: can't see her again because I know that I screwed
Speaker 1: that kiss up. Actually a valid question could do that.
Speaker 1: Your email said that you had a great time on
Speaker 1: the date. But I guess the way that this dude's
Speaker 1: been acting after your date is making you think that
Speaker 1: he might be in a relationship or something like why
Speaker 1: do you think that? Why would you even jump to
Speaker 1: that conclusion? Absolutely went out. It just got this feeling
Speaker 1: like he's basically communicating with mebiat tacks and never wanting
Speaker 1: to hang out with me, like there's something shady going
Speaker 1: on just because he'll only text you. Yes, I feel
Speaker 1: like that's a big jump to conclusion. I know most
Speaker 1: people only text nowadays. Yeah, but sometimes when you get
Speaker 1: a feeling and he hasn't hung out with you obviously
Speaker 1: since your first date, yes, exactly. It's just it's weird.
Speaker 1: And he said he's gonna call, and it took him
Speaker 1: like a week and a half to call me, So
Speaker 1: if you had it is good of a date that
Speaker 1: we had. I don't know. It just feels odd to me,
Speaker 1: like like I expected to see him again in three days,
Speaker 1: Like I really did expect to see him. So that's
Speaker 1: what feels so odd about It just doesn't feel right,
Speaker 1: like it feels something to the way, and I don't
Speaker 1: know what it is. It's got to be cheating, it
Speaker 1: has to be. You're right, it couldn't be just a
Speaker 1: busy schedule or anything else like that. I don't think
Speaker 1: you're jumping to conclusions at all here, Anna, you don't
Speaker 1: think so. No, I absolutely do think you're jumping to conclusions.
Speaker 1: But yes, what's the rules nowadays? I mean, if you
Speaker 1: like a woman, don't you just call her and say,
Speaker 1: you know, let's go out again, or me for coffee
Speaker 1: or something like. Aren't too more communicative? You would think so.
Speaker 1: But maybe you know, if he sounds a little awkward
Speaker 1: by the way you have that awkward kiss at the end,
Speaker 1: he might just be kind of a weird awkward dude
Speaker 1: and not really understand how to do that. And he
Speaker 1: might actually be busy. Well, he was so not awkward
Speaker 1: on a date, and it's so not awkward at the
Speaker 1: volunteer event, he was so together, seemingly. Okay, yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: he is a cheater there, you're right, But what we
Speaker 1: can do his play a song, come back, call him
Speaker 1: and get your second date update and find out what's
Speaker 1: really going on. Okay, I would really appreciate that. Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll do it right after this. Hang on looking jubil
Speaker 1: in the morning. How do you know if somebody's cheating
Speaker 1: on you? Well, I guess there's lots of ways. If
Speaker 1: a man has multiple dames, you might be able to tell.
Speaker 1: If he comes home in the middle of the night
Speaker 1: with lipstick on his collar. That's what those cads are
Speaker 1: always up to. Comes home smelling like cheap booze and
Speaker 1: cheap perfume. He's probably got another brawl on his side,
Speaker 1: or if he doesn't text you, or if he just
Speaker 1: text messy just test text messages. Yeah, sorry, I kind
Speaker 1: of lost it there for a second. If he just
Speaker 1: sends your text messages, yeah, because it didn't exist back then.
Speaker 1: That all right. Anyway, Anna is on the phone with
Speaker 1: us right now, and she thinks that the guy she
Speaker 1: went out on a date with might be a cheater
Speaker 1: because they went out on the date, had a great time.
Speaker 1: But now he won't call her or anything, but he'll
Speaker 1: keep texting her and they just never make an opportunity
Speaker 1: to hang out, and she thinks it's kind of sketchy.
Speaker 1: All right, An, are you about ready to give him
Speaker 1: a call? Yep, I didn't ask why do you even
Speaker 1: want to go out with him again? If you are
Speaker 1: assuming he's a cheater, Well, I just want to find
Speaker 1: out if he is, like if I'm just crazy or
Speaker 1: if he really us a cheater because we had a
Speaker 1: great time and we had chemistry. That's how cheaters are.
Speaker 1: They're real stooth. When you first meet up with them,
Speaker 1: they'll Louisa and they'll suck you into the game. And
Speaker 1: that's why you had to yi some gum shoes to
Speaker 1: track them down where the gums to see if we
Speaker 1: can get the truth. And we are these super sleuths
Speaker 1: here with your second date update. Yeah not find that.
Speaker 1: That's weird. That's fine. I like them shoes. I thought
Speaker 1: that was a nice time. Yeah I did. All right,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call him right now. Here we go. Hello, Hi,
Speaker 1: can I speak to Ralph? Please? This is Ralph? Ralph?
Speaker 1: How are you? This is Jewel from Brook and Jewel
Speaker 1: in the Morning. I'm fine. Who are you again? Jewel
Speaker 1: from Brook and Jewel in the Morning. The radio show?
Speaker 1: What from a radio show? How don't get it? Yes,
Speaker 1: we're calling from a radio show. You actually recently went
Speaker 1: out on a date with one of our listeners, and
Speaker 1: they wanted us to see if we could get you
Speaker 1: on the phone and ask you a couple of questions.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Well, it's a segment we
Speaker 1: do on our show called the second Date up Date. Basically,
Speaker 1: if you go out on a date with somebody and
Speaker 1: then you end up blowing them off, they email us
Speaker 1: and ask if we can get you on the phone
Speaker 1: to ask if something went wrong. Okay, you recently went
Speaker 1: out on a date with Anna, do you remember, Yeah, yeah, Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: Anna is wondering why you won't go out with her again.
Speaker 1: I'll go out with her again. You will go out
Speaker 1: with her again. She called you to ask me if
Speaker 1: I would go out with her again. Yeah, sort of.
Speaker 1: I guess she was feeling like something was a little
Speaker 1: sketchy because you won't talk to her on the phone
Speaker 1: and you'll just text with her, and then you're constantly
Speaker 1: busy and you can't make plans. And I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: busy and I text. But that's what everybody does, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, he's busy. I wasn't blowing her off. I
Speaker 1: hope she didn't take it that way. That's what I
Speaker 1: tried to tell her, but she said it just seemed weird. No.
Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to blow her off. No, No, she's great.
Speaker 1: We had a good time. Oh, this might be the
Speaker 1: easiest second day up that we've ever done. Then, so
Speaker 1: there's nothing shady going on with you? How she all
Speaker 1: right here? Let me tell you what she thinks. Okay, okay.
Speaker 1: She thinks that you might be cheating, like you might
Speaker 1: have a girlfriend or a wife or something like that. Oh,
Speaker 1: that I'm cheating with her against somebody else. Yeah, that No,
Speaker 1: no way, because she sent an email and she was like,
Speaker 1: this has happened to me before, and it was the
Speaker 1: same time. That's not that's not at all the thing
Speaker 1: with me. No, not at all all. Right, Well then
Speaker 1: why not? Why not schedule a date with her? I
Speaker 1: want to know. I have been meaning to I just
Speaker 1: I got a lot on my plate, you know, like
Speaker 1: most people. You know, there's just I got a lot,
Speaker 1: a lot to think about. Um, like your wife a cheater,
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not. I don't have a wife. I
Speaker 1: did have a wife at one point, and that maybe
Speaker 1: that's it. I this is my first I'm starting a
Speaker 1: date after having gotten divorced, and so and I guess
Speaker 1: I didn't mention that, though I gotta say I didn't.
Speaker 1: You didn't feel weird about that? And how long have
Speaker 1: you been single? Oh, it's been over a year, over
Speaker 1: a year. And how much dating have you done since
Speaker 1: becoming a single freeman who can do whatever the hell
Speaker 1: he wants? I think I've dated one woman? One woman? Okay,
Speaker 1: not not at all, seriously, just once or twice. We
Speaker 1: were convinced that there had to be something weird going
Speaker 1: on with you. But now it just sounds like you're
Speaker 1: a normal guy who's kind of busy right now. Why
Speaker 1: are you so busy? What do you do? Well? I
Speaker 1: work as a contractor, and I also have kids from
Speaker 1: my first marriage to take a lot of my time kids.
Speaker 1: That's okay. You don't have to say it with a
Speaker 1: hesitation or like well, I just didn't mention that to
Speaker 1: her either, and I hope I didn't come off as not.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Kids are kind of like the biggest
Speaker 1: deal in somebody's life. I mean, yeah, how many kids
Speaker 1: do you have? Four kids? WHOA, that's a lot of kids?
Speaker 1: How like what age range are we talking here? Ade
Speaker 1: is the oldest and the youngest is one and a
Speaker 1: half ohe man, No, wonder you're busy busy? Yeah? What
Speaker 1: how do you have free time for you with this
Speaker 1: phone call? Right? Yeah, that's a good question. Okay, So
Speaker 1: she doesn't know that you have four kids from a
Speaker 1: previous marriage. No, she did. I did not. I definitely
Speaker 1: did not tell her. That didn't tell her on purpose.
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know what, you kind of did
Speaker 1: tell her? No I didn't. Yeah you did, because she's
Speaker 1: actually listening on the other line right now. What higher else?
Speaker 1: Is Annah. Yes, how's it going. You didn't tell me
Speaker 1: a lot about yourself on the date, well for the
Speaker 1: first date. Uh yeah, you didn't even tell me you
Speaker 1: had a kid, not one kid, not two kids, not
Speaker 1: three kids. Did you have four kids? And you didn't.
Speaker 1: You didn't even mention it, like you have a one
Speaker 1: and a half year old, like you got divorced six
Speaker 1: months your kid. You have a kid in diapers at
Speaker 1: the moment. Yeah, I feel bad that I didn't say that,
Speaker 1: but I don't feel like I was lying because it
Speaker 1: really just didn't come up, and it wasn't what I
Speaker 1: was thinking. I was thinking more about you and trying
Speaker 1: to get to know what you're about, and I should
Speaker 1: have said something that's something you should tell somebody. I mean,
Speaker 1: I was telling you really personal things about me, like
Speaker 1: kids are pretty Like, don't you think the first thing
Speaker 1: you should tell somebody have four kids? I definitely should
Speaker 1: have told you that I have four kids. That was
Speaker 1: a mistake. Yeah, kids is a mistake, Yes, and I'm
Speaker 1: sorry for that. I feel bad about that. Okay, how
Speaker 1: do I know you're not married and still cheating? Like
Speaker 1: I still have this weird feeling. I mean, I would
Speaker 1: just say, like, why would I lie about that and
Speaker 1: not about I mean I just told you have four kids?
Speaker 1: You know I got nothing. Yeah, I'm not I'm not cheating,
Speaker 1: you know I would you know whatever? I mean the kids,
Speaker 1: I think it would be less of a big deal
Speaker 1: kind of in a way than the kids. Everything else
Speaker 1: you're hiding for me, I should know. And no nothing. No,
Speaker 1: I'm gainfully employed, I'm a nice guy. I'm a good dad,
Speaker 1: I was a good husband. I know myself well enough
Speaker 1: to know I'm not a creep and I'm not a jerk.
Speaker 1: But I'm I'm a normal dude. I don't even have
Speaker 1: to ask this, but how'd you even get four kids?
Speaker 1: You have to have a different kind of lesson here, Anna,
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean four You see, when a man
Speaker 1: and a woman really love each other a lot, our
Speaker 1: kids like a big turn off for you. Anna, I
Speaker 1: don't have any kids myself, but it's wants I know
Speaker 1: a guy, I'm not sure our woman right now. I
Speaker 1: mean maybe a few years out of the line. I
Speaker 1: don't want this back with that our four kids to
Speaker 1: ruin my chances of it, like us seeing each other again.
Speaker 1: It's not like, let me just picture me like you
Speaker 1: knew me before without the kid, that's me. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm still I'm the same person. It's just you know,
Speaker 1: it'd be like I don't like having two jobs or something.
Speaker 1: All Right, So we obviously know that I don't understand
Speaker 1: how it's like having two jobs or whatever. But we
Speaker 1: obviously know that Ralph wants to go out with you again, Anna,
Speaker 1: because he said it at the beginning of this phone call.
Speaker 1: But Anna, would you like to go out in a
Speaker 1: second date with Ralph? Of course, we'll pay for it.
Speaker 1: I just want to say, like again, like I am
Speaker 1: not done, Like I could totally have two or three
Speaker 1: more kids. I gotta I don't think that's Anna's issue, Ralph.
Speaker 1: It's like it's the second date update, not the second
Speaker 1: date and pregnant. I'm just saying that I am open
Speaker 1: to having more kids. It's like, I know, I understand,
Speaker 1: you know, women in the thirties, it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: you want to have kids maybe, and like if that's
Speaker 1: like a make or break thing, like you're looking like
Speaker 1: what's the future with this guy? And all I'm saying
Speaker 1: is I would totally be into having more kids, two
Speaker 1: three more kids. Awesome. It really great if that's a concern.
Speaker 1: I just want to say that I feel like Anna
Speaker 1: was just wanting to get another date with you, but
Speaker 1: the villains, you're not trying to get pregnant. I just
Speaker 1: wanted to have it, like a coffee with you. Let's
Speaker 1: just do that. Hey, you know one thing, Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: going out for coffee. The next thing, you know, you're pregnant.
Speaker 1: So Anna, will you go meet up with Ralph again?
Speaker 1: We will pay for a second date. I don't know
Speaker 1: what I would do if I were you. Oh, we
Speaker 1: need there. I don't know to do a chance? Come on,
Speaker 1: it sounds like he's Ralph. You know a lot about
Speaker 1: taking chances. I can tell I'll have a dinner with you. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: so you'll go out with You'll go out with Ralph again?
Speaker 1: Um yeah, all right, awesome, excited. Send you guys out
Speaker 1: to somewhere where they have a great children's men. You
Speaker 1: bring the whole squad, Ralph, bring them all off. Broken
Speaker 1: jewel in the morning,