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Speaker 1: All right, we got a special pod today. We were

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Speaker 1: presented by when Bad betting as a team sport, but

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Speaker 1: by a fan favorite for jetsination that of course is

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Speaker 1: Leon Washington. Great, see anybody Eric Goods in you as well? Man?

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Speaker 1: It's been a while, right, it has been a while.

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Speaker 1: So that's where I wanted to start. What gave you

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Speaker 1: the coaching itch? I didn't see this. What back in

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Speaker 1: your playing days say hey, maybe down the line you'll

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Speaker 1: be doing this. Oh. You know, ever since I started

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Speaker 1: playing football, ever since I started playing football in chats,

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Speaker 1: from part Warner to high school to college to the NFL,

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Speaker 1: I always had the edge for it. So in the

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Speaker 1: meeting rooms, you guys probably didn't see it because you

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Speaker 1: had the che for it. And then, you know, having

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Speaker 1: my had opportunity to really get myself prepared for coaching.

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Speaker 1: So I have a six ten year old son, a

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Speaker 1: So I'm always coaching. So for me, UM, I always

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Speaker 1: had the is for it when to get back to

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Speaker 1: the game in a way. And really, honestly, Eric, all

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Speaker 1: was just natural to get back to the game in

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Speaker 1: this way. But what led you to the jetson Upper today? Well,

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Speaker 1: obviously I got into my internships. My first internship with

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Speaker 1: and the previous two years before I got hired here,

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Speaker 1: I was in Detroit. UM. And then once I left Detroit,

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Speaker 1: me and Robert Salt I had a relationship dating back

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Speaker 1: um to our days with the Seattle Seahawks two thousand

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Speaker 1: UM I worked with him as well. So UM, I

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Speaker 1: solid liking both those stops in Seattle, Jacks so awesome. UM.

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Speaker 1: You can feel his genuine presence, you know when you're

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Speaker 1: watching his meeting rooms with the linebackers during that time. Um,

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Speaker 1: when he when he was a quality of control guy

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Speaker 1: that stuck out to me all the time that I

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Speaker 1: remember was that, you know, we'll get in about five

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Speaker 1: So I know the work at that he'll put into this.

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Speaker 1: I know, um, the genuine care that he has for

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Speaker 1: the players. The players really want to play for him.

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Speaker 1: And I know how smart he is as a coach.

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Speaker 1: He's really really detailed. Um with that. So, Um, with

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Speaker 1: that being said, it was just natural fit for me

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Speaker 1: me in a video. Um the op did he something

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Speaker 1: What was he like in the weight room? He said

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Speaker 1: always kept out look at them, like what is he

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Speaker 1: And it's the same way here. I mean he gets

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Speaker 1: But you take care of your body big time as well. Man.

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Speaker 1: return the kids. But I always knew it because when

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Speaker 1: you describe your Jets career as a player coming in

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Speaker 1: want to win a super Bowl. Okay, So I didn't

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Speaker 1: From an individual standpoint, some of the accolades I was

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Speaker 1: but you ended up in there as a wild carriage.

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Speaker 1: Finished the season in New England. Right. Um, that draft

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