WEBVTT - 08/11/21 DPS Hour 2 Steve Palazzolo 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:03.520 You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:06.520 Sports Radio Our two on this Wednesday, Dan and the 0:00:06.600 --> 0:00:09.320 Dan n Stan Patrick Show. Glad to have you on board. 0:00:10.119 --> 0:00:14.640 Which team has the worst backup quarterbacks situation? We'll explore that. 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:18.720 Coming up, we'll hear from Russell Westbrook after his introductory 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:22.600 press conference with the Lakers. This in from Chris Mortenson, 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:27.520 Jacob Eason, and Sam Ellinger competing for the backup role 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:31.160 with the Colts. Yes, the backup role according to mart 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:35.320 Carson Wentz trending to open the season as the starter, 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:38.840 with All Pro guard Quintin Nelson on the same path 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:44.280 after foot surgeries. The Colts open the season versus the Seahawks. 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:48.440 We will talk to the Colts owner Jim Erse. He'll 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:52.159 join us on the program tomorrow eight seven seven three 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:54.800 d P show email address DP at Dan Patrick dot com, 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:57.600 Twitter handle it DP show mclove And the poll question 0:00:57.720 --> 0:00:59.800 from the first hour and the results, do you want 0:00:59.800 --> 0:01:04.560 the NFL to enforce taunting more strictly? Sixty say no. Yeah, 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:06.640 it's coming back, whether you ask for it or not. 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:09.760 The NFL wants to enforce this. They've been a little 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:13.880 lax on this. In previous years, and I'm not sure 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:16.480 what the point of emphasis is going to be. I 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:19.880 don't think they're going to be narrowing this down to 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:22.880 touchdown celebrations. It's just I think what happened in the 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:24.640 super Bowl. There were a couple of moments in the 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:28.000 Super Bowl, including one with Tom Brady that the NFL 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:32.520 probably didn't like playing out on worldwide TV. I loved 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:35.039 it because it was passionate, it was in the moment. 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:38.400 It was real, and that's what we love. Like reality 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:43.399 shows aren't real, sports is real. It's happening. It's not scripted. 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:47.279 Hard Knocks last night, part of that scripted. What happened 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:50.040 in a football game the Super Bowl. You know, the 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:53.600 quarterback and a defensive back going at it. That's what 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:57.400 we love. It's real and it's rare to find that. Yeah, McLevin, 0:01:57.680 --> 0:01:59.600 there's one kind of celebrating I have a problem with. 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:02.040 When you're losing by twenty five points and you get 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:04.280 a first down and you do the arrow, or if 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:07.040 you're a quarterback who's like, yes, I stopped this pas 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:09.840 where you've been burrowed three times. Yeah, you should get 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:12.440 a flag for that. When a franchise has a young, 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:16.399 unproven quarterback. They can take one of two approaches. Either 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:18.920 go all in make it known that you're going with 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:20.920 the guy no matter what, like the Bengals did with 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:23.960 Joe Burrow, or you can bring in the experience backup 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:26.639 who can step up if the team struggles. And right 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:29.680 now it appears the Jets they don't have a safety 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:34.440 net for Zach Wilson. The Eagles, i guess, are confident 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:36.960 in Jalen Hurts at least for now. The Jags, of course, 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:39.840 are building everything around Trevor Lawrence, but they have Gardner 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:43.320 Minshew like they have a legitimate backup quarterback there. The 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:46.799 Jets don't. But the thinking is, these guys got to 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:49.240 learn at some point what's the point of bringing in 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:52.840 Nick Foles or Ryan Fitzpatrick and going five hundred. And 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:55.760 it's a little bit of a scary proposition because I'll 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:59.000 go back to there are a couple of really talented quarterbacks. 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:01.960 You know, Tim Couch was the number one pick out 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:04.600 of Kentucky, went to the Browns. But you get in 0:03:04.680 --> 0:03:07.480 there and then you start to build up bad habits, 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:10.320 or you start to see what it feels like our 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:13.880 fourteen defensive players on the field. You're not a good player, 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:19.960 you're not gaining confidence. Derek Carr's brother David Carr. He's 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:23.200 as athletic as I've ever seen, but look at what 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:25.720 happened when he was with the Texans. He got sacked 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:29.240 more often than any quarterback in history given the number 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:32.880 of games that he played. Sam Darnold, I don't know 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:35.360 how good he is because it was hard to tell 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:38.800 when he was with the Jets. But the quarterbacks are 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:41.560 going to struggle. We know that. The question is at 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:45.320 what point do they learn the game? Does it slow 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:47.880 down for them? Those are the things that I'm always 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:52.280 watching for. You know, it happened Josh Allen in Buffalo. 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:56.000 It looked like, and he would probably say this, the 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:59.040 game was moving twice as fast as it did in college. 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:01.680 And then for a while, you sort of know where 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:04.400 that person's going to be. You know what that rush 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:07.000 feels like. You know how long you have to get 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:10.200 that ball out, you know the window of opportunity there. 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:12.280 These are all things that you have to learn once 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:14.800 you step onto the field. And we've seen this down 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:17.080 through history. Where it used to be if you were 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:21.279 drafted a high draft pick at that position, you sat 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:27.320 Steve McNair famously sat for three years when he was 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:31.320 drafted and then when he had his chance to play, 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:35.800 he was a very good quarterback. But you know, look 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:40.400 at Aaron Rodgers three years, Philip Rivers, like these guys 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:44.240 would sit because that's how you learned back then. Now 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:47.359 it feels like, given what you're running in college, the 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:50.520 NFL is borrowing from colleges as far as what they 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:54.359 do with their schemes, their formations. These players they've been 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:56.720 running a pro system since they were in high school. 0:04:57.320 --> 0:05:00.120 They're ready to go. They know, you know what it 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:02.960 is being in a shotgun. You know. The interesting part 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:04.920 is a lot of them are not good under center 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:08.280 because they didn't need to be under center. You were 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:11.280 in shotgun for everything. You know, Patrick Mahomes sat for 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:15.960 a year. You have these certain situations. Is Zach Wilson 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:19.560 going to struggle? Yes, he's going to struggle, and he's 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:21.760 going to struggle because he's with a team that's not 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:25.839 very good and being a rookie quarterback. When Trey Lance 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:29.039 gets in there, he'll probably struggle, but he's on a 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:32.240 better team. He has a chance. They can kind of 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:37.279 smooth smooth over his rough edges there. I mean, Dak 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:41.040 Prescott came in. They had the best line in football. 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:43.480 You had a really good running back, give you a 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:47.600 fifteen hundred yards, You had an owner who was offensive minded, 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:50.720 offensive driven, and Dak looked a lot better than he 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:57.240 probably was. Russell Wilson went into Seattle, had a good offense, 0:05:57.440 --> 0:05:59.800 not great, and they didn't need to score a lot 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:01.920 of points because you had the best defense in football. 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:04.760 So you can look at the success of a quarterback. 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:08.000 And I've brought this up before, and it's not a 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:11.719 knock on Patrick Mahomes. It's just we tend to look 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:13.920 at quarterbacks and say, boy, that guy's not any good. 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:17.560 What is the situation? How many offensive coordinators have you had, 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:20.599 how many coaches have you had? Have they gotten free agents? 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:23.520 How do you do in the draft? You know, if 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:26.800 Patrick Mahomes played for the Cincinnati Bengals the last couple 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:30.359 of years, he would not be making fifty million dollars 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:33.160 a year. We would look at him and go, and 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:37.479 he's talented, but they're not a good team he's with. 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:40.760 If I put some of these other quarterbacks on Kansas City, 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:44.760 they'll lead Kansas City to the super Bowl. But given 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:47.200 their current state in their teams that they play on, 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:50.200 they're not going to have any chance. And you can 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:53.800 see the confidence level. Patrick Mahomes has as much confidence 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:58.000 as anybody except for maybe Aaron Rodgers, and he should 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:01.080 because he's a wonderful talent. But when you go out 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:05.080 there and you know, offensive minded head coach. We got 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:08.000 maybe the best tight end in football history, I got 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:11.840 a game changer in Tyreek Hill, and got a defense 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:15.000 that's been opportunistic, and I have had a pretty good 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:18.080 offensive line. Why wouldn't you be confident going out there? 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:23.440 Tom Brady's confidence. Offensive line was good, solid, he had 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:25.760 a lot of weapons there, you had a great defense. 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:30.240 You watched Carson Wentz last year in Philadelphia. He had 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:35.280 no confidence. Why because his offensive line wasn't good, his 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:37.720 team wasn't very good, and he was trying to do 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:42.000 too much. That's what happens to that position. Your confidence 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:45.280 can come and go. You know Peyton Manning when he 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:48.280 first started out, John Elway when he first started out, 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:52.440 Joe Montana didn't start like Dan Marino was, you know, 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:54.800 an aberration. It's like you're coming in and you're a 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:57.840 plan and he's having an impact, right away. It just 0:07:57.880 --> 0:08:01.000 didn't happen back then. Steve Young waited to have an 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:03.720 impact when he was thirty. Jim Kelly played in the 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:08.440 USFL and then came to the Buffalo Bills. That's why 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:11.200 it's so hard to find your quarterback like Russell Wilson 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:14.640 doesn't miss any games. Came in and said hey, I'm 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:19.120 your starter here, and they haven't looked back likes. That's 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:20.960 why it's tricky when you try to handicap and you 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:22.600 say that guy's going to be good, and that guy's 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:25.400 not going to be good. Trey Lance, I don't know, 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:29.320 loved when we had him on. Seemed like a great kid. 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:32.240 He's got a lot of talent. You're with Kyle Shanahan, 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:35.760 an offensive minded head coach. You have a good offensive line, 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:38.079 you got a running game, you got a great tight end. 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:44.480 He should succeed absolutely, justin fields in Chicago. You get 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:49.120 into those situations or get into an organization, you have weapons, 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:54.640 What do they expect from you? Mac Jones New England, 0:08:55.640 --> 0:09:01.040 I don't know. Hey he's got Belichick there, Okay are 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:05.640 they what's their offense? They're gonna open it up. So 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:10.720 sometimes that coach, sometimes the personnel sometimes just the dread 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:13.559 of playing in that organization. I mean, can you imagine 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:16.880 playing for the Texans right now? Any of these quarterbacks, 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:19.000 I don't care who it is. Put him in there 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:20.800 with the Texans and tell me what kind of magic 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:26.920 you create. Trevor Lawrence with Jacksonville, you know, urban Meyer 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:29.680 is not going, Hey, this is a three year, five 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:32.880 year this is now. I want to win now. Okay, 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:35.360 what do we expect out of Trevor Lawrence? A lot? 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:38.319 And we should And we're gonna expect a lot out 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:44.000 of Zach Wilson and should we Yeah, he's supposed to 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:49.400 be great. He Patrick Mahomes esque with some of his throws. Okay, 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:54.000 well let me let me see it. Jet's got some talent. 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:57.280 Let me see what you can do. Got a rookie 0:09:57.320 --> 0:10:00.320 head coach. So there's a lot at stake, a lot 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:03.400 of play when it comes to trying to handicap these quarterbacks. 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:05.640 And if you don't have a backup quote, how the 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:10.320 Jets don't have a backup quarterback who is a seasoned veteran, 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:15.480 to me is idiotic, absolutely mind boggling that you don't 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:17.920 have somebody who has played the game and played it 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:20.640 at a high level might be a thirty three thirty 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:23.560 four year old veteran who can at least help this 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:27.600 kid because he is a kid. He looks like he's 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:31.520 a kid playing somebody who was drafted by the Jets. 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:34.000 He looks like he's right out of a Disney movie. 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:38.480 He's gonna need a lot of help, and their backup 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:43.440 quarterback situation is not very good. The Jets backup quarterbacks 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:48.760 In case you were wondering, let's see, of course it's 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:52.280 James Morgan and Mike White. Yes, that's who you would 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:56.720 exept the James Morgan, yes, m v Mike White. Yes, yeah, Paul. 0:10:57.120 --> 0:10:59.400 Do you think we think Zach Wilson is younger than 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:02.160 he is because he looks so young because he's twenty two. 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:04.280 I thought he was like twenty twenty one years old. 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:06.360 He's actually older than Trevor Lawrence by a few months, 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:08.760 and he's the same age as Justin Fields. He looks 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:11.640 so young and fragile, even though he's probably a big dude. 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:14.240 In your mind, you think, wow, that's so young. He 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:17.000 just got the BYU. But not everybody's going to be successful. 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:21.280 That just that's there's always one or two quarterbacks in 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:24.800 each draft where you go. I don't know, And Zach 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:29.520 Wilson's that guy like I just don't know. Trevor I 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:33.080 think will be successful like I would be. I'd be 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:38.760 more surprised if Trevor didn't work out than Zack Wilson. 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:43.760 Mac Jones is just a curiosity right now. Like I 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:46.920 get nervous with the one year wonder, Zach Wilson one 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:50.600 year wonder, Mac Jones one year wonder two got injured. 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:54.240 I'm still not sure about him. Yeah, mccluban, Well, what 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:56.320 about the Bears factor? I hate to say it, but 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:59.559 can anybody be a good quarterback in that uniform? It's 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:04.840 a hard At some point, somebody has to be good there, right, 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:08.240 Like the Lions have to eventually be good one day? 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:12.720 Right at some point? Yes time another Jets? Are they 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:14.880 over under eight and a half or six and a half. 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:20.240 I'm still trying to figure that out. There's a little 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:23.520 callback from yesterday. No, I know, there's a very little 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:30.160 callback from yesterday over under the jet. No. No, eventually 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:34.320 it's okay, Yeah, don't don't you worry about a time? 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:40.120 All right? Uh Russell Westbrook was introduced yesterday and UH 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:44.600 had a couple of things to say, and you know, 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:47.680 maybe I'll say this because we're gonna we're gonna talk 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:52.040 to Pro Football Focus and talk to them about the 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:57.360 worst backup quarterback situations that'll be coming up here. Trying 0:12:57.400 --> 0:12:59.120 to think if there was anything else that we were 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:03.920 going to mention. Am I missing anything here, Paul? I 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:06.120 don't think So we're gonna stay with that poll question. 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:09.880 All the college football rankings came out Alabama, Clemson, Oklahoma, 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:15.400 Ohio State, Georgia. No surprise there, but college football feels 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:19.200 like it's the least surprising sport that we have, certainly 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:21.440 when it comes to the preseason. Here are the names, 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:25.520 the blue bloods. They're back again. But I think there's 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:28.400 six teams from the SEC in the top twenty five, 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:32.480 including ole Miss at number twenty five. Yeah, mclo, look 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:34.480 at who Alabama's put into the pros in the last 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:36.960 two years. They've had two first round quarterbacks, go at 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:40.120 about four first round receivers. Well, this is what Lane 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:42.200 Kiffin had to say the other day when we talked 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:44.760 to him, and he's like, Hey, you know, Nick used 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:48.600 to get great running backs and great defensive players. Then 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:51.400 Lane Kiffin goes in there and Steve Sarkisian and they 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:55.280 open up the playbook. And now, as Lane says, you know, 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:58.040 it's not fair. Now you're getting the top quarterback and 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:00.959 you're getting you know, the top y receivers. I mean 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:05.520 they've had four wide receivers drafted number one, you know, 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:08.280 first round draft picks in the last two years. Club. 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:09.760 I think they have the top guy this year. John 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:12.000 Mechi I just saw a mock draft. He was like twelve. 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:16.520 Now it's not fair because you know Saban, it was like, 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:18.920 do I want to go to a place where they 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:21.560 play defense and run the football? Now it's hey, come 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:23.840 on in, we throw the football. We might give up, 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:26.480 you know, thirty five points, but we're going to score fifty. 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:29.000 Come on in. He wants to play here, club and 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:31.440 you make a million dollars, right or whatever. 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I give him props. 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:43.720 He was very good, but we don't think he's a 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:45.960 Hall of Famer. Where are you adding on a Romo 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:49.960 for the Hall nobly? I probably agree. I mean, I mean, 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:51.880 I'm just I'm gonna give it to you real, I mean, 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:54.400 not just because he's my teammate, you're gonna assess his 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:58.520 body of work. Yep, you're gonna assess it and really evaluate, 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:01.600 really to class that he's going in with versus some 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:04.240 of the quarterbacks that are on the list or elisible 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:07.160 to get in at the same time. So obviously had 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:10.679 you know, sell a career there in Dallas. But is 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:12.880 it worthy? Is it Hall of Fame worthy? That's not 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:15.919 for me to decide. Obviously, he was very very popular 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:18.439 with the media there. We know, you know how I 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:22.920 am and my thought process on you know, the process 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:25.880 in which you know, guys are being nominated, who does 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:29.480 and who does the nominating and that's that's mostly the 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:32.280 sports writers and so you know, obviously I'm sure he 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:34.480 had a better rapport with the media than I did, 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:37.199 so that may factor into him, you know, making it 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:41.320 or not right. That's Terrell Owens, I think answering the question, 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:45.840 I think he said no. But likability does play a 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:48.280 role there. But that's courtesy of the odd couple. On 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:52.760 Fox Sports Radio, Steve Palezzolo, pro football focused senior analyst 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:55.440 who joins us, do you think Tony Romo has any 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:59.160 chance to get a Hall of Fame induction? I think 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:01.399 there's a chance, I would probably lean. Know, though, I 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:04.399 think Romo probably lands in the proverbial hall of the 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:07.480 very good. And I do think because postseason moments do 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:10.919 matter so much, the fact that Eli is even being considered, 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:13.320 I think that's going to end up working against Romo 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:15.080 because he just doesn't have it. Who do you think 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:18.200 was a better quarterback? Eli ar Romo? I mean, I 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:20.439 think throw for throw, Romo was a better quarterback. I 0:18:20.480 --> 0:18:23.479 do think that the postseason moments do matter, and they 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:26.320 certainly will matter with the voters, but throw for throw, 0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:29.080 you know, if you're just evaluating how well they played, Yeah, 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:31.720 Romo I think was better from from start to finish 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:34.200 more than Eli. Eli had some high peaks though that 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:36.520 were really really good, including the Super Bowl runs. But 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:42.119 do we over state overestimate playoff success like that? That 0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:45.119 seems to be that that can decide whether you're in 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:48.439 or not. But you know, do we not give as 0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:52.880 much importance to the regular season with some of these quarterbacks? Yeah? 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:55.720 I mean, I think I think the postseason stuff does matter, though, 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:58.160 I mean, we're talking about the most important position at sports, 0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:01.199 and even everything we do at PF, this quantifying and 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:04.360 all that stuff and even I'll acknowledge there's something, there's 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:06.280 something else when it comes to the postseas, there's something 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:09.040 else that like separates Tom Brady and separates guys that 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:12.280 do execute the way they do in the postseason. So 0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:15.600 maybe we overrated a little bit, but that's what where 0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:17.679 Philip Rivers and Tony Romo and those guys are going 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:19.440 to end up probably losing out a little bit. Well, 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:21.240 So you don't think Philip Rivers would go into the 0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:23.679 Hall of Fame. The more I thought about it, I 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:26.080 was thinking no. I mean, I really think I've got 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:28.840 this like top five in my head, right, top five 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:30.960 of your era, and if you're in that, you know, 0:19:31.040 --> 0:19:33.000 top four or five, it feels like you should you 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:35.320 should be in the Hall of Fame. Rivers top eight 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:37.560 type of guy. Matt Ryan, top eight type of guy. 0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:40.040 Eli honestly outside of the top eight or ten even 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:42.480 in his eras Romo is probably a top eight guy 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:45.159 in his era. So to me, they're just on the 0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:48.240 outside looking in. Can you get into the Hall of 0:19:48.240 --> 0:19:53.080 Fame now as a quarterback without a Super Bowl appearance? Yeah? 0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:56.679 I think you can. Appearance would be tough without an appearance, 0:19:56.760 --> 0:19:58.760 because I'm thinking Marino at least made it to the 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:01.159 Super Bowl. But everybody watch Marino and said, Okay, this 0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:02.680 is the best quarterback in the league for a big 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:05.280 chunk of his career. So I mean, technically you can, 0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:07.360 but it's going to be it's gonna be really difficult 0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:09.399 because the best quarterbacks usually at least make it to 0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:12.600 a Super Bowl and usually at least win at least 0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:15.479 one of them. We reached out to you with the 0:20:15.520 --> 0:20:19.560 best and worst backup quarterback situations here. Given the news 0:20:19.560 --> 0:20:23.119 with the Colts, out looks like Carson Wentz is on 0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:26.680 course to start Week one for the Colts against the Seahawks. 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:29.680 So I don't know if that changes your backup quarterback 0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:32.440 situation or not there, but let's start with the good 0:20:32.440 --> 0:20:36.199 backup quarterback situations right now. Yeah, So I look at 0:20:36.240 --> 0:20:38.320 teams that have guys that I would consider, you know, 0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:40.960 low end starters that are sitting there as backup. So 0:20:41.280 --> 0:20:44.000 the Raiders have Marcus Mariota. You know, if Marcus Mariota, 0:20:44.320 --> 0:20:47.080 he's not great, he didn't become that franchise quarterback that 0:20:47.160 --> 0:20:50.480 everybody maybe was hoping. But Mariota's the best backup in 0:20:50.520 --> 0:20:53.040 the NFL right now. We might not see a massive 0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:55.880 drop off of dark car got hurt. I think Chase 0:20:55.960 --> 0:20:58.000 Tenham with the Browns, a guy that could come in 0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:00.760 if Baker Mayfield got hurt, could come in run that offense, 0:21:00.840 --> 0:21:03.960 especially with the way Kevin Stefanski calls plays. And and 0:21:04.080 --> 0:21:06.919 you have to highlight Tamos down in New Orleans, right, 0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:10.760 Whoever loses in the Taysom Hill Jamis Winston battle there, 0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:13.240 the other guy becomes one of the better backups in 0:21:13.280 --> 0:21:15.639 the entire league. So I think the Saints might not 0:21:15.760 --> 0:21:17.560 know who their starter is, but they'll at least know 0:21:17.640 --> 0:21:19.800 that they've got the best backups. Wait, so they have 0:21:19.840 --> 0:21:25.600 two high end backups. Yeah, but low end starters. That's right. Okay, 0:21:25.640 --> 0:21:29.080 the question was best backup? So the Saints win in 0:21:29.119 --> 0:21:31.520 that game? How about I? Also, I have faith that 0:21:31.640 --> 0:21:33.760 Jamis could be a pretty good starter. Still, if I 0:21:33.880 --> 0:21:38.560 give you Carson Wentz or you can have Tamis together, 0:21:39.280 --> 0:21:44.240 who would you take? Oh Man, I would probably lean 0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:47.080 Carson Wentz, and that's because I do think he'll bounce 0:21:47.119 --> 0:21:50.960 back from from last year's disaster. But but Tamos Is. 0:21:51.119 --> 0:21:53.159 You know, it's interesting, you can run, you run the 0:21:53.160 --> 0:21:55.880