1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: My grandma and your grandma was witting by the fire. 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: My grandma, Grandma. I'm gonna say fire, you're talking about Hina. 3 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: I like, go on day Jagomo Jago ding Don. What 4 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: a week? What a world? What a week? What a world? 5 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 1: This is Bowen Yang, this is Matt Rogers, and this 6 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: is the last culture Ess podcast. We are here. We 7 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: got our hats on. We have our guests in studio, 8 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: ready to scour culture, ready to go for culture. And 9 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 1: it's been quite a week, quite a couple of weeks 10 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: personally and publicly, it's been a huge personal and public 11 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Absolutely, it is lat to discuss. And 12 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: we have a great guest and old friend Um from 13 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 1: Bowen and n y U Day one of my first 14 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: friends in New York. Yeah right, yeah, one of my 15 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: first friends in New York. And we can go into 16 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: this later with our history. Mama, that's true. But listen. 17 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: She writes for Espionation, she writes for um Gelopnick, she 18 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: writes for Funny or Die Beverage. I could go on 19 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: half of the sketch comedy Powerhouse Duo. And I say 20 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: that with with my hands giving inflections with rolly Williams 21 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: called Steve a door. Door. You must you must check 22 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: them out. Everyone, come on, come on up. It's Nicole calm, like, 23 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: it's all okay, this is very exciting, like like we said, 24 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: old friends. And I actually remember the first time, Nicole, 25 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: But I don't know if you remember this. I think 26 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: I do, and I'm already embarrassed. No, no, it's so good. 27 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 1: It's so good. It's so good. So I became part 28 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: of hammer Cats, which is a sketch comedy group at 29 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: n y U, and you guys were in Danger Box, 30 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: which is the improv group in ny You and I 31 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: was like kind of newly out of the closet, like 32 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: and shyly going over to our friends house where we 33 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: had like the opening party, and like, oh, I don't 34 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: know what they think. And I remember Colin Cordpacy, our friend, 35 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: like saw me and kind of whispered to Nicole like 36 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: a question that I knew, was is he gay? Because 37 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: like always gay men have to check in with their 38 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: straight girlfriends like is he getting Like I know I'm 39 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: always the wrong straight girl from the check on that 40 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,839 Speaker 1: I mean. Also my gayr is totally shot. But also 41 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: Nicole at the time like and still does. But like 42 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: attracted impressive coachie of gay men at NYU coach and anyway, 43 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: I just remember what she said was she looked at me, 44 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: she said bet Colin and goes, this is truly Nicole's essence. 45 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: She goes, toss up, toss up, and that's the within 46 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: your shot, like you could hear her. I have My 47 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: dad and I are the same way where I have 48 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: the hardest time understanding what volume I'm speaking at Whenever, 49 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: whenever Raleigh and I are out in public somewhere writing 50 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: and I start getting excited about something, I'll talk louder 51 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: and he always has to be like, you were embarrassing. 52 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: That's so funny because Raleig's girlfriend Sudi Green does the 53 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: same thing to me. I'm constantly screaming when I'm excited, 54 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: I worked out about anything. He's like, okay, I just 55 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: want to let you're screaming. But he's screaming at this 56 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: m and the chain goes on continues at me because 57 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: I feel like you check my volume sometimes my volume? 58 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: What is it? When do I do that in like 59 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: a restaurant, in public space, public spaces, when I like 60 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: when I get too loud and like you will like 61 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: shoot me a look and be like bow and behave. Yeah. 62 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: I just love being being the power. I love telling 63 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: no one to shut up quiet. Nicole and I go 64 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: way back. Nicole and I first saw each other in 65 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: high school, so it all the way, it goes back 66 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: all the way to Denver. Yeah. Just we dipped a 67 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: toe in Denver because we met our high school improv 68 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: of groups were performing at the same theater, and we 69 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: literally met for one night and then didn't talk again. 70 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: You met ey, we met eyes, and you knew and 71 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: we knew well then and then it took a minute 72 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: where we became Facebook friends before we had even met 73 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: again in person and in my you yeah, and I 74 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: think it took us both a while to figure out, like, oh, 75 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: that's the other person. Yeah, yeah, Well did you guys 76 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: do that thing um where you got accept the n 77 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: y U and then proceeded to friend request from hundreds 78 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: of people. I didn't because I was well, but I 79 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: came to It was sort of like a fluke, like 80 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: it was not I applied there because my high school 81 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: guidance councilor made me go there, but like all of 82 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: my other choices were other schools and just through like 83 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: a series of random events and when you ended up 84 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: being the only option, and I was like, I had 85 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: been to New York once and I hated it, and 86 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: I don't want to go there. I don't want to 87 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: study theater. I don't like any of these people, and 88 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: I'm too good for all of that. They friend requested 89 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: me and tried to be like very welcoming and like friendly, 90 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: and I'm a stubborn asshole and was just like, I 91 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: don't need to be friends at anything, kicking and screaming 92 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: to the then number one dream school in the country. 93 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: They wouldn't let that go. They wouldn't let that. They 94 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: were always talking about how you know n YU was 95 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: the number one dream school. Right, here's the thing. I 96 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: need to be honest because people people were like, but 97 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: you got in, Nicole, that's so impression. It's like, I 98 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: think I got in because my parents could afford it. 99 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: Think that was a big part of the Yeah. I 100 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 1: so I actually think that they accepted a lot of people. 101 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: I think it was kind of easily to get in, 102 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: depending on what programming easy to You think it's at acceptance, right, Yeah, 103 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: I don't think it's crazy competitive. Also, there's a lot 104 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: of space to put these people, and they want your 105 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: fucking money. They're fucking horrible scam. I mean, I was thinking, 106 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: and I'm not not proud that I went to n 107 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: y U, but I was thinking back to like some 108 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: of my education, and I'm like, holy sh it, oh god, Well, 109 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:28,799 Speaker 1: I in the same way that I'm a very stubborn 110 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,679 Speaker 1: asshole and like didn't want to be friends with anybody 111 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 1: in the theater program. I transferred into Gallatin because at 112 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: the kind of person who's like, I want to be 113 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: able to do whatever I want you originally in experiment, yeah, 114 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: and then I transferred into Gallatin because I didn't I 115 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: want to have to learn anything. And then I went 116 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: there and I was like, I'm going to design my 117 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: own course of study. And then in retrospect, it's like 118 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: I learned nothing. I did not learn anything in college. 119 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: It's like a little bit embarrassing how little I did 120 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: and how little It kind of makes me feel like 121 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: because I truly do believe that if I were essentially 122 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: because at eighteen years old, when you graduated high school, 123 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: you pretty much off worced to go to college. I mean, 124 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: unless you unless you can't go if you're from like 125 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: the suburbs, like or the nicer suburbs or whatever. Like 126 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 1: if you're from any middle class like upbringing, like that's 127 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: what you do. You know, you go to college despite 128 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: at high school part two, or you don't and you 129 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: don't necessarily know what the funk you want to do. 130 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I think probably all three of us thought 131 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: we were going to do one thing when we went 132 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: to school and ended up doing something totally different. Um. 133 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: I mean I listen, my education and in my U 134 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: was like all in the gradient towards like doing well 135 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: in my m cats and now like with some distance 136 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: away from school from undergrad like I remember nothing. I 137 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,119 Speaker 1: bet some people would be supprised to know that about 138 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: you though that Yeah, I was a pre mad at 139 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 1: n y U, but I was on the improv groups. 140 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: So like my my social circle was like mostly like 141 00:06:55,240 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: Tish Tish kids. Um like actually like cool Pete Well 142 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: I wanted to hang out with. I mean, like, look, 143 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: there were some great people in the premium program, but 144 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: it was just very competive specific. When you do this, 145 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: especially when you do comedy and when you hang out 146 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,119 Speaker 1: with a group people we did, it's your brain works 147 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: a very specific way, and it does become very different. 148 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: Are difficult to hang out with people who like are 149 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: just normal people and that's not but it is a culture. 150 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: It's a it's a it's a culture, and it's hard 151 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: to let it go. And it's if you're always doing bits, 152 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: you know, a regular conversation just becomes very stressful because 153 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: you're trying to figure out, like the game of the conversation, 154 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: when when does this? When do we laugh? Like I 155 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: remember my first year I was in Liberal studies well 156 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: because to like reveal something about my experience and n 157 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: y U, I was on essentially what was disguised as 158 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: an academic scholarship, but it really wasn't athletic scholarship. I 159 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: was supposed to run track at n y U, and 160 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: they gave me like some good not a great amount, 161 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: but an okay amount of financial lad for me to say, Okay, 162 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: it's not completely responsible for me to go to n 163 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: y U. But because it was a D three school, 164 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: they couldn't call it an athletic scholarship. So I had 165 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: I had applied early decision to Colombia, which just wasn't 166 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: a good enough student to get in there, but had 167 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: the athletic steal of seal of approval, and the same 168 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: thing happened at n y U, and because it was 169 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: easier to get in, they gave me like what was 170 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: sort of an athletic scholarship, but they called an academic scholarship, 171 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: which I was then able to quit the track team 172 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: and still keep because they couldn't take my academic so 173 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: I was on the I was on the track team 174 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 1: for five days and then I was like, no, I 175 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: remember you hated I think you've told this story, but 176 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: it was so bad. I mean, it's just like that's 177 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: why I feel like you don't go to school when 178 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: you're eighteen, or like I don't necessarily recommend it, because 179 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: I truly feel if I were forced to go to 180 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 1: college now, and this is my original point, that I 181 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: would want to learn so much. I would seek out knowledge. 182 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: I have considered going to grad school, and not because 183 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: I wanted like do anything with it, but because I 184 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: want the opportunity to study something that isn't exactly anything 185 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: related to what I'm trying to do career wise, to 186 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: get the culture hat bow and we'll talk. I have 187 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 1: a I have a question to n because I didn't 188 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: I think you told me told me this about you 189 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 1: with U with like your reluctance to to you know, matriculate, 190 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: I guess, but like what was your top choice? So 191 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 1: I had wanted to study ancient history and it's very 192 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: difficult to do that in America because we're not close 193 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: to any of the artifacts I wanted to go to. 194 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: I think my top two choices were they're both in England, actually, 195 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: I think one was maybe University of Edinburgh and the 196 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: other was the University of Manchester. And so that that 197 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: has been like my plan and then my mom um 198 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: and like real quick, this is gonna sound like I'm 199 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: blaming my mom for all my problems. Like that things 200 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: worked out well. I have a very good life. I 201 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,719 Speaker 1: think I may be happier doing this, But like my 202 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: mom when it came time to really like commit to 203 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: a school, was like I don't want you going overseas 204 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: and so and then at that point, like the schools 205 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: I had gotten into in the US, like the dates 206 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: already passed or like I didn't really I was sort 207 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: of a plane there because I had to. And so 208 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: it came down to like n YU or like I 209 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: could go to like see you Denver, right. I think 210 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 1: what your mom was really thinking was it's going to 211 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: be very hard for you in England to decide you 212 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 1: want to do comedy. Later, yes, she was like, I 213 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 1: just want you to have a solid but she's very 214 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: like she's actually gotten much better about it. But like 215 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: when I left her thing was like, if you're in 216 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: New York and you get really sick or something, I 217 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: can be there in four hours. In England it will 218 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: take me two days. And again maybe a reason why 219 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: we're not ready and we shouldn't be sending eighteen year 220 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: olds to school because we don't want them to get 221 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: sick overseas. Okay, well then why are we putting them 222 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: in like this kind of stressful situation? Elizabeth Conlin, Your 223 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 1: mother just a wise woman, because I remember right out 224 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,079 Speaker 1: of college when I was like getting ready for my 225 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: am cats are when I was taking them or a 226 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: second time around, remember her asking you and then you 227 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: asked me sort of as like um, like by proxy, 228 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 1: which is so funny because now you and my mom 229 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: have each other's phone numbers and you could just text 230 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 1: exactly exactly Hi, I'm going to text Elizabeth later. Um. 231 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: And she had asked you to ask me what my 232 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,599 Speaker 1: plan was and like what I wanted to specialize in, 233 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: and I just when you asked me that, I like 234 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: froze up. And that was like one of the moments 235 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: that led up to me being like, oh, I can't 236 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: do and my mom's her credit has Both my parents 237 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: are physicians, and both of them have always from day 238 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: one been like, don't the same way that comedians say it, like, 239 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: don't do this unless you have to do don't do 240 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: this unless you can't do anything else. Yeah, exactly, I 241 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: totally agree with that. I mean, it's it's crazy, but 242 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: I do think like as I've gotten older, I have 243 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: started to sort of pick up on what my other 244 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: interests are. Like I really feel like, if this whole 245 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: thing doesn't work out, I would like to go to 246 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 1: school for like psychology or something. I would love to 247 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: get a master's degree in that and maybe like sort 248 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: of get into therapy like or just something like that. Also, 249 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: I am really enjoying reading a lot about like gender 250 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 1: and like I'm I'm really liking like like all these 251 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: conversations that we've been having over the past couple of weeks, 252 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: and like our community on Facebook and what's now become 253 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: essentially the entertainment community at large with with now what's 254 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: become like this amy humor controversy. Like it's just so 255 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: interesting for me to hear all their perspectives and like, 256 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: you know, obviously I feel a certain way, but it's 257 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: just like, really kind of it's this interest and like 258 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: and like gender and like all that stuff that I 259 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: never thought I had, and just politics in general. But 260 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 1: it's like, but I would never have known I was 261 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: interested in any of this, and I don't know if 262 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: I could have gotten interested in anything. I needed the 263 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: life experience leading up to this point, right, And so 264 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 1: maybe yeah, it's like it's like everybody go to bism 265 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: by fire, everyone go to grad school? Is what the 266 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: moral of this is? Nicole? We have to ask you, 267 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: like we ask all of our guests, what is culture 268 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 1: that shaped you? When? When did you? When did you 269 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 1: think culture was for you? Sorry, we just say this 270 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: every When would you when did you decide that culture 271 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: was for you? Well, so I listened to your podcast. 272 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: I knew you were going to answer this question, and 273 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: in the day's leading us to the plodcast, I've been like, 274 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: I should think about my answer specific one, and then 275 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: I didn't until now. Um, but I was sort of 276 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: thinking about on the trainover and I I think, like 277 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: many things, I think I'm sort of at a weird 278 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 1: place in my life right now where I don't know 279 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 1: if it's just because I'm very busy or very stressed, 280 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: or if there's like something wrong with me, but I'm trying. 281 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: I like, there are things that I know that I 282 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: was into when I was younger, but now I can't 283 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: remember any specific thing about those things. See. I kind 284 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: of terrifying that I don't know. I just listened to 285 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: Study's episode and she was talking all about Lord of 286 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: the Rings, and I was like into Lord of the Rings, 287 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: and I like, I like, I was like a real weird. 288 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: I for sure have some level of Asperger's uh. And 289 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: like at that time, it was like, well, I'm in 290 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: the Lord of the Rings. Now I'm gonna like learn 291 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: how to speak. I read the Soul Marillion, yeah, and 292 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: now but now, like I can barely remember Lord of 293 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: the Rings at all. And I've read those books all 294 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: the way through multiple times. I've seen those movies and 295 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: the extended editions multiple times. I spent hours on the 296 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: Star Wars website and probably couldn't tell you even one 297 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: name of anyone on the Jedi count. And this makes 298 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: me feel better. It's also happening because it really does 299 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: feel like, oh, I'm losing my mind. It's that inside 300 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: out moment of when what's his name fades away? You 301 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: know what's bing bong whatever, there's something else. It's like 302 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: some people can, some people can so readily answer that 303 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: question like what did you grew up loving? And it's 304 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: because it wasn't. It wasn't a well thought out movie. 305 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: I just didn't love it, started gave it. I read 306 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: an article in like maybe like Wired or something or 307 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: Fast Company when that movie was in production and they 308 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: were building it up to be like this is the 309 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: one that Picks has been working up to this whole time, 310 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: and it was like two years before it came out, 311 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: and how they like originally had a whole script and 312 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: then they realized that they had done it all wrong 313 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: and they had a new direction for the movie, and 314 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: like that was the point, like you should be able 315 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: to start over again. And then I saw the movie 316 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: and I was like, there's a lot of fuss over 317 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: not a particularly good movie. They just make such a 318 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: big fucking deal about every single goddamn Pixar movie, and 319 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I know it's not better than Monsters inc. 320 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: You done it, You've done it, you done it, you've 321 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: done it. You've done it already, rule number, rule number 322 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: when you make Monsters inc. Um. But so so the 323 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: stuff that I do remember about like being very culturally 324 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: defining for me was like this is the thing I'm 325 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: talking to my boyfriend about recently. I think if I 326 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: if I could sort of map my ultimate long term 327 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: career should factory. It would be like I would do 328 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: comedy for a long time and then I would maybe 329 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: like step back from the spotl a little bit and 330 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: like right books or like right for television, and then 331 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: I would want to go like the Michael Palin route 332 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: and just do like weird travel shows. I do like quips, 333 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: That's what I want. But I think like the first 334 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: thing that I remember like being like this changes everything 335 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: was there was a four part documentary series back when 336 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: um TLC and the Discovery Channel were like educational and 337 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: it was John Clice did a four part series about 338 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: the human Face, and I have it on DVD and 339 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: it's fascinating. I still think it's incredible and it's it's 340 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: very funny, but it's it's John Clice and Elizabeth Hurley 341 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: are in it. And then there's like interviews with like 342 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: Pierce Brosman and like other but it's like all about 343 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: like the way that the face is shaped by biology 344 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: and how like the brain interprets it and then how 345 00:16:55,120 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: like culture. Yes, yes, and I think at is something 346 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: that still kind of kind of holds true for me. 347 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: And then there's also like weird like cartoons. I like 348 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: a lot. Bungebob is a huge, huge, huge thing for me. Um, 349 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: I think the best twelve minutes of television ever written 350 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: are band Geeks the SpongeBob so called bank geeks. Um, So, 351 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: do you get excited for the because we just talked 352 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: about inside, do you get excited for the animated movies 353 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 1: that when they come out at times? It's the thing 354 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,719 Speaker 1: is like all of them are supposed to be like 355 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,239 Speaker 1: well sweet and they have so much hard but like 356 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: the cartoons that I like are like like SpongeBob just 357 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: fucking stupid. That's what I like. This is the thing. Um. 358 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: Andy Standberg was on Pete Holmes podcast and he had 359 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: this quote that was like, oh, somebody gets me. Somebody 360 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: gets it. Where he was like, um, I think important 361 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: doing our quotes. Important comedy is having a moment right now. Um, 362 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:53,719 Speaker 1: and that's great and I think it should and like 363 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: we need it and it's doing really good important things. 364 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: But I got into comedy because I like just dumb silly. 365 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: It's a little too artist and sincere now you think, yeah, 366 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:06,719 Speaker 1: and which not gonna I'm like Amy Schumer's show, like 367 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 1: do the twelve agreemn episode is like, Yeah, that's an 368 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: important piece of like art and comedy and we should 369 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: absolutely celebrate it. I think Pop Star was the best movie. 370 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: I totally agree with you. We literally had so much 371 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: fun watching it. And also, you know, we just saw 372 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: and we've had I think it was so stupid, but 373 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: it was also but also this is and this is 374 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: my particular taste. Is it like sort of kind of 375 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: is about us a thing that you do think message 376 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 1: there was a message, but you get at any quote 377 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 1: unquote point by being so fucking stupid. Everything Catherine Han 378 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:47,719 Speaker 1: says in the movie is so stupid. Pop Star is 379 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: so fucking funny. It's so funny. It's just so funny, 380 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: and it did it recalled the time of when I 381 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: was seeing movies a lot in high school, which is 382 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: we're all the same age and so like, I feel 383 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 1: like this reminding me of like and like Scary Movie 384 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 1: three and like Anchorman, which was like truly dumb, but 385 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: that was what made me want to do and also 386 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 1: honestly Lonely Island. Lonely Island, they were huge, huge influence 387 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: on map. But Nicole, Okay, this is interesting because I 388 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: feel like there are intersections of dumb and important. And 389 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: it's interesting that you brought up Michael Palin and John 390 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: Clice because they feel like maybe unless you got to 391 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 1: this later in life, I feel like Monty Python probably 392 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: had an effect on you totally. There's this book that 393 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: I got that I can't remember the title of. Now 394 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: I know, I know what you're talking about. It's like 395 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: analyzing Monty Python. Um and it's like a hard book. 396 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: Like it looks it's got like a fun like Flying 397 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: Circuits cover, so you're like, what this is gonna be 398 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: a great beach read, and then it's like harder than 399 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 1: most of the like course like interdisciplinary text I read 400 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 1: in college. Monty Python is like truly the smartest people 401 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: ever doing the dumbest, like yes, exactly, and and this 402 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: book because I it's thought about it, like, oh, this 403 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 1: dead parents sketch is so funny. It's a guy who 404 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: won't admit the parents death. And then you read this 405 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: book and it's like, well, actually, Monty Python was one 406 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: of the most subversive acts on television at the time 407 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: and a completely chance and I was like, oh, I 408 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 1: didn't understand that all of this is why I was funny, 409 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: but okay, But also I do think it takes a 410 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 1: smart person to get that kind of dumb. I really do, 411 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: like I think that, Like, for example, you know, were 412 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: you guys fans of Wonder shows in Oh my God, 413 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: just you gotta check it out? Or maybe it was 414 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: only funny to me like being like really tired at 415 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: night in high school, but like it was so fucking 416 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: funny and it was so fucking stupid, but like and 417 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 1: it was like a kids show that was like inappropriate, 418 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: Like that was so crazy about it. But I remember 419 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 1: some of the jokes that I now look back on 420 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,479 Speaker 1: and they still hold up for me, Like a random 421 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: nonsecure being like they do a sketch whatever, and then 422 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: a transition would be like a little girl like having 423 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: an anguished like a moment, and the voiceover was you're 424 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: never too young for a Vietnam lashback, and I was 425 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: and she was just like and it was just like 426 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: bombs going off in the back and it was over 427 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: in four seconds. And I was like, that to me 428 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: is brilliant. But I don't know what to say like 429 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: that that gets it for me, like I will that 430 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: will stand the test of time. You know, you know 431 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: what stands the test of time and will for all time. 432 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 1: Scary Movie three, Yes, when no, I know what you're 433 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: talking about. This is the best. This is the best 434 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: scene in cinematic history. The guy walks that with his 435 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: daughter or whatever. It's so funny on a Faris and 436 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: Simon Rex Simon Rex. Literally we are the only ones 437 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: who know his name. Former gay porn movie stars. He 438 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: only did solo stuff, but he did like show his 439 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: asshole and off in gay porn and um he was 440 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: in Scary Movie three. Is like the romantic leads, the 441 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: comic lead with on Affairs. They have this like sweet 442 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: sweet sweet scene in a classroom and he's like taking 443 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: easy and he takes he picks up his niece from 444 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: school and they leave and the scene lingers on the 445 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:01,719 Speaker 1: door for just like two seconds, like dozens of crawns 446 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: just like hit the door. Cut to Regina Hall, the kindergarten, 447 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 1: kindergarten teacher going now the fun did that? Say over 448 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: so good? And you know it was in the script, 449 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: Like you know it was in the script because like 450 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: what like it's just like interaction between non Affairs and 451 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: Simon Rex. The door closes, seconds go by all these crayons, 452 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: The fun did that? I think the moment within the 453 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: past like five years, I think that I laughed at 454 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: on a television show harder than anything else was Um 455 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 1: the show Those Who Can't on Tree TV. There's just 456 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: one moment. It's at the end of an episode. It 457 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: has nothing to do with the episode. There's like because 458 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: it's a it's a show about teachers. And I'm not 459 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 1: just saying this because they're from Colorado. Yeah, I'm not 460 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: just saying that this So it's their teachers at a 461 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: school and there had been like an assembly or something, 462 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: and they're The mascot named Terry is rolling across the 463 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,719 Speaker 1: screen and one of the guys is just sitting there 464 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: and Terry rolls passed and he goes Terry, You're so dumb. 465 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: I think I've heard reference You're so dumb? Oh my god, 466 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 1: And that reminds me. I don't know if this is 467 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: like a like a good connection, but that reminds me 468 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: of when you and I, Nicole where at your house 469 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: winner breaking like two thousand nine watching SpongeBob SquarePants Mystery 470 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: at the twist Stree and such a funny movie is 471 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 1: a movie I'm made for TV? And then I referenced this. 472 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: I forgot about this until it's so funny and then wait, 473 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: can you walk me through this again? Someone goes up 474 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: to Patrick. Some a fish goes up to Patrick. Wait 475 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: what did he say? He goes are you? Are you 476 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 1: a wearabolf? It's about wearaboleves? Right, I'm butchering this. I 477 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: have to I have to look it up. We'll look 478 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: it up. And also a solid year we quote we 479 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 1: quoted this. Do you know what? I'm realized? Thing I 480 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 1: remembering now that people love and I love is like 481 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: honestly just like quotable line quo, like movies and and 482 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: like things. Right now, some people fund of the guy 483 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: who makes who just quotes movies at the party, which 484 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: I get it, but there's so much of me that 485 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: is Oh my god. Yeah, do you know what I 486 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 1: just remembered fucking middle Ditch and I don't like quote. 487 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: I've never drinking Middle Ditch. I don't like uote, I 488 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: never drink it. Oh my god. And Josh Reuben, Josh 489 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: Reuben and Middle Ditch, Oh my god. In this college videos. Honestly, 490 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: you know what's crazy to realize is that we I've 491 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: been watching some of the people that I like, I've 492 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: been watching something so fucking long, like Middle Ditch. I've 493 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 1: been watching videos for so long, like even like the 494 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: Derek guys. Like it's just crazy, like and we've officially 495 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: like there's people that I've met now that I'm like, 496 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: oh yeah, I watched her video in middle school? Did 497 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 1: Nicole got Middle Ditch to do monologues for a danger 498 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 1: Box show, which is so software year and then she 499 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 1: just kind of did model and sat there and like 500 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,479 Speaker 1: a little like oh yeah, I'm here or whatever. And 501 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: then Nicole and I made did a whole scene about Williamsburg. 502 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 1: And at the time, it was like it was still 503 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 1: cool to make fun of hips. It was still cool 504 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: to make kind of hipsters and make kind of Williamsburg 505 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: and then Middle Ditch laughed a lot, and I was 506 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 1: so proud. I was like, Middle dig likes us. Um 507 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: the line was it was there was like a spongeboblin. Yeah. 508 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: Patrick goes up to a fish and he's like, well, 509 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: you might not be a butler, but are you aware 510 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: wolf out of nowhere in no context within the episode, 511 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 1: and the guys like what no, and okay. He walks 512 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: away and then he just turns into a werewolf and screams. 513 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: It's so nothing to do with the rest of the episode. 514 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: See that We're gonna return to that very soon, like 515 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: absurd stupid comedy. It must go that way. That's that's 516 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: that's that's what all of our references have been tonight, 517 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: like Monty, Python, SpongeBob, fucking Wonder shows and like all 518 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 1: of those. I do I love it, I mean, but 519 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: I do really appreciate what's going on now, like I 520 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: do like all of it. But I think there is 521 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 1: room for both, especially with so many places I think, 522 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: I think well, and I think that's the issue is now, 523 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: it's so many like uh like, and I work for one, 524 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: so I've worked for multiple many clickbait websites where it's 525 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 1: like they want to make a funny video, but they 526 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: wanted to have a point because that's like what's share 527 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 1: able or whatever. Um, And I think that's like just 528 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 1: like an oppressive force in comedy right now. I think 529 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: it's the only thing that's not funny. It's it's so 530 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 1: not transparent, and like not the show Transparent, it's all transparent. 531 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 1: I thought you met the show transer. I thought Transparent 532 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: is not funny clickbait. Um imagine tombstone. Um. Like honestly, 533 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: Bone and I are trying to work on something right now, 534 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: and it's just so frustrating I have to deal with like, oh, 535 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: you have to water it down this way and this way, 536 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: even though it is best this way. We know that, 537 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: um that you're doing like a branded thing. Well, it's 538 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 1: like we're trying to get something done that we really 539 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: like and it's not even branded, but for some reason, 540 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,719 Speaker 1: there are marketing considerations to be had and we're like 541 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: what we were told we were too niche interesting way 542 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 1: of saying that we're too gay, which is like which 543 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: is sucked up, which is stupid. I mean, like honestly, 544 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: and I understand it, but like get a spine, get 545 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: a backbone. You know it's good. We know it's good. 546 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 1: It will find an audience. It's just like I understand, 547 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: maybe you don't, maybe you don't feel like you cater 548 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: to the audience. And also like I understand that they 549 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: have a job to do, but it's just bullshit. It's 550 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: it's just so annoying. You lose a hundred subscribers who 551 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 1: are homophobic and pieces of ship anyway, Like who cares? 552 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,360 Speaker 1: People just don't. They don't, They don't think about working 553 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: in the internet for as long as I have is like, uh, 554 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 1: those people are never gonna be happy. It just makes sense, 555 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 1: like like cool, you keep the hundred subscribers who aren't 556 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: cool with gay people, and then you lose the subscribers 557 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: who decide their comedy experts and think you're not I mean, 558 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 1: small plug. We we just had a amazing variance with 559 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 1: Comedy Central, who just let us do whatever we want 560 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: to get in the way at all, only contributed to 561 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: positively to the product. It's our videos with the popular 562 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 1: lets called Sex with My Teacher. It's coming out this weekend, 563 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: and we think it's great. They didn't try to change 564 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: any lyrics. I didn't realize Comedy Central was on board 565 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: for that. No, yeah, that was part of a part 566 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: of Popular that was Comics to Watch last year, so 567 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: we got to make a video. So like it was 568 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: really cool and the whole situation was so wonderful. So 569 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: it's like it's so it made me kind of realize 570 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,439 Speaker 1: after the fact, because I didn't even realize working on 571 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: it that this had been the case. But I was like, wow, 572 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: it does exist. Like you can have a positive working 573 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: experience with one of these like large companies, like it 574 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: can happen, but like it seems to be these little 575 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: internet companies that like don't and maybe because shouldn't throw 576 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: any of my companies under the bus sports Illustrata, which 577 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: I will happily through into the bus. But but like 578 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: both Gawker, Rest in Peace and um Gelatino still exist, 579 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: but Gower and and Espionation have been very like they 580 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: will let me kind of do whatever I want, but 581 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: because there, like Espionation exists for sports fans and Gelatini 582 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: exists for car fans, so there's no reason for me 583 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: to do like sketch on there. But they're like, if 584 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: you you can do whatever you want with cars and 585 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: sports turned something into your adit edge laptic. I think 586 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: this is incisive. I think this is really going to 587 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: turn some heads. Call this is a seven page power 588 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: pup girls. Yes, it is enough. It's pretty subversive. It's 589 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: not it's just not what we do. So you work 590 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: at so at one point in time prior to this week, 591 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: you worked for two media conglomerates, for Fox and for 592 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: Gawker Media. UM, I mean, is there like any like 593 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,479 Speaker 1: crazy like is that like a weird experience at all? 594 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: You're just working for you, just a free agent for 595 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: all this sight. Yeah, well, well I'm full time. I 596 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: was full time at Gawker with Gelatinic, and then I 597 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: left when I started Espionation, so I was I was 598 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: never at them overlapping times. Um, it's I think the 599 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: weirdest thing about it is it is so like you 600 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: don't have to talk. We know, you know, we don't 601 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: we don't have to put work on blast. It's no, no, no, no, 602 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: And you're not at all because the thing is it's 603 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: like an unbelievably good job. The thing about Esimionation is 604 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: like all of my coworkers, it's the first time I've 605 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: ever been insecure about the fact that like all of 606 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: my coworkers could easily walk out of the office and 607 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: into a UCB class and be the funniest guy in 608 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: the and be like better than me at comedy. I 609 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: feel like that, and they just like love sports and 610 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: writing and they're like, I have no interest in comedy. 611 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: Is when you realize, like I have some friends from 612 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: high school who a couple of them, like I know 613 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: could have been superstars. Yeah, Like my best friend um 614 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: Ken from home. He's like handsome like a movie started, 615 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: like probably more handsome than like Chris Hamsworth and like 616 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: so so so funny and like I feel like it's 617 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: so nice and like charismatic and everyone knows it. And 618 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: then when he walks in the room and I'm just like, 619 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: if he had decided to like try to do this, 620 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: like he might have been absolutely huge, Like it's just 621 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: so funny because like really yeah, because because for a 622 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: long time he didn't necessarily want to move to New 623 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: York and so I was like, man, it sucks that 624 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: Roley Williams is just going to live in that And 625 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: then he moved here and I was like, oh, thank god. 626 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: Nicole took me to one of ROLLI Williams stand up 627 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: sets in like oh nine, which he didn't do anymore, 628 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: doesn't even do anymore, and then he killed it. It 629 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: was like a twenty minute more than that. I was 630 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: like a thirty minute long set. I was like, this 631 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: guy is really funny. Why is he not in New York? 632 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: And then finally he's in New York. Now he's not 633 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: even doing standup anymore, but he's still so funny. I 634 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: love Raleigh, Yeah, I love Raleigh too, so so much. 635 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: But everyone loves Raleigh. Yeah, I mean I think he'll 636 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: be He's really fine. You'll both be find absolutely nail. 637 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: But the thing is, it's just so funny to think 638 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: of those people like that, just they just weren't as 639 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: interested in themselves as we are. Like there was like, no, actually, 640 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: I'm a co contribute to the world. I'm very obsessed 641 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: with my self. Yeah, I mean, if you if you 642 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: spend as much time on your phone as we do. Like, 643 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,719 Speaker 1: speaking of being obsessed with yourself, I just recently started 644 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: following these YouTube bloggers, these like fitness girls. Yeah, I'm 645 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: obsessed with that. Would you do a better job of 646 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: blogging than they would? You think? I don't know. There's 647 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: there's a couple that I think I would do a 648 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: better job. But there's some that are just like, oh, 649 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: I get white people like it because you feel like 650 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: they're your friends exactly. I think you and I don't 651 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: like if there's a wrong way to take this, this 652 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: is not how I intend to communicate this. You would 653 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: you would do so, I think you would do so 654 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: well as like a fitness flogger. Here's the thing I 655 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:38,959 Speaker 1: think I could have at one point. I think at 656 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,959 Speaker 1: this point now, because I'm so like in the comedy world, 657 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: I don't everybody else would give me so much ship. 658 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: What if what if you were to own it way 659 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: ahead of them and be like, hey, guys, this is 660 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: a fucking stupid of here we go and it's actually 661 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: good though. Yeah, here's so I could do it sincerely, 662 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: or I have been trying to write a parody character 663 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: of that for so long. I think I have a 664 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: weird thing in my brain worth I'm too close to 665 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: something I can't write about it. And that's sort of 666 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: why I'm Yeah, it's sort of why I work in 667 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: sports and why I work in cars briefly because it 668 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: was like, I like these things, don't particularly care about them, 669 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: so it's very easy for me to like disconnect, like 670 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: just be like, Okay, I just have to do this 671 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: and finish the work. I've been trying to write a 672 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: pilot about the gym. I've been trying to write that 673 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: gym character. Right now, I'm working on another pilot about 674 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: like a ski resort. Um. I've been working on this 675 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: screenplay that back to the history thing. I've been working 676 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: at a screenplay about Guiceppe Garibaldi for years, which is 677 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: crazy to me that like Italy hasn't made a Garabaldi 678 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: bio since nineteen sixty or something, and it's not even 679 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: a particularly good one, which makes me think there's some 680 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: sort of like life rights issue and I should just 681 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: let it sail away something like that. But but I mean, 682 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: I can still write it to learn how to write. Um. 683 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: But like all the stuff that I'm very excited about 684 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: and passionate about is just like and maybe it's just 685 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: because like I'm not good enough yet. So it's like 686 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: anything I write's going to be a little bit disappointing 687 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: to me. But then like I wrote this fun I mean, 688 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: I shouldn't talk about this now that our friend Billy 689 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: Domino has blown up for his spec script. But I 690 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: wrote a spec script for the people versus O. J. Simpson, 691 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: and I wrote it in like a day, and I 692 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: was like, well, this is the easiest thing I've ever 693 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 1: written and the best thing I've ever Why can't I 694 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: write something useful? But that's so interesting that like, in 695 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: order to right now, you're at this point where you 696 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 1: have to sort of dissociate from the subject. I think so, 697 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: and so maybe I should just do a sincere fitness 698 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: vlog and see what. Honestly, yeah, because they say, right 699 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: what you know? But also it is hard to do 700 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: that sometimes when you're like, no, I take this seriously, 701 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: what do you mean? Yeah, it's and yeah, that would 702 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: be really hard. It's like and then there's also the 703 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,320 Speaker 1: flip side of that is when you like are too 704 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: young to fucking know how to do anything. And I 705 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: think they're a little bit because like back to n 706 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: Y you and me doing whatever, the one I didn't 707 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: really learn how to write. I was in a lot 708 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: of like independent study writing classes where I I churned 709 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: out a certain number of pages, but I was like, 710 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna write whatever I want, and I'm gonna do 711 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:04,320 Speaker 1: non linear story time and it's just like a garbage yeah, 712 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: so much like innovative form breaking theater schools. I'm going 713 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: to write the Bottle episode my senior thesis film is 714 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 1: a point of extreme embarrassment for me, and it's it's 715 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 1: so bad that I like, I've never even gone back 716 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 1: to edit it because so many people did so much 717 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: work for me for free, And as soon as I 718 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: finished it, I was like, oh, this is bad, and 719 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,919 Speaker 1: if I put in the work to finish it, then 720 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: that's going to take time away from me doing actual 721 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: productive things. But the in and of itself that there 722 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 1: you go, and it was an educational aspect. It just 723 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: cost my parents a lot of money. That one. I mean, 724 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: I will say, like fucking I remember sitting in class. 725 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 1: I went to dramatic writing at Tish and m y 726 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 1: U and I was in like one hour drama class 727 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: where you learned how to write like an episode of 728 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: one hour dramatic television and everyone had to write a 729 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,439 Speaker 1: show which essentially just became a fan fiction like jack 730 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: off Fest. And I was like, I'm gonna write a 731 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: Gray's anatomy because I know what this is fucking stupid 732 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: and I know I can do this just so and so, 733 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 1: just so you guys know, I'm writing this dumbass show this, 734 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,399 Speaker 1: This will be the stupidest thing you guys read ever. 735 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: It will be dumb. I don't want anyone to think 736 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,399 Speaker 1: I took it. Seriously, I'm not doing it. The kids 737 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: next to me, you're like, well, in my episode of 738 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 1: Breaking Bad or in my episode of mad Men, I'm like, 739 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 1: who do you think you are that, at twenty years old, 740 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: you can come in here with your breaking back? And 741 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 1: I so, I so was that person that was like, well, 742 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 1: I'm gonna write a pilot this year and then I'm 743 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: gonna be some sort of whiz kid in Hollywood. And 744 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: now I've have abandoned that, and now I'm like, I'm 745 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,359 Speaker 1: twenty six. I'm so old that no one's gonna want 746 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: me anymore. And then I have the very few moments 747 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: of clarity where I'm like, shut the funk up. In 748 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 1: my thesis class a Dramatic writing, a kid wrote wrote 749 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 1: like a one hour script about like a man in 750 00:36:55,400 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: the sixteen eighties who always was going into fugue states 751 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: and like becoming a different person, but like the fugue 752 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: personalities were helping each other solve a crime. I was like, 753 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: this is it was called fugue just because fugue is 754 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 1: also a musical type that would have been around during 755 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 1: the Honestly, it was crazy and he probably just watched 756 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 1: that Breaking Bad episode where Walter comes back from his 757 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 1: fugue and they keep saying the word fugue. Literally, a 758 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: fugue state was not a thing before Breaking That's true. Also, 759 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,439 Speaker 1: I love using it as like a way. Oh yeah, 760 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: when when I went into my fugue state, I was 761 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 1: on a fugue state on Fire Island. Yeah, like we 762 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 1: were like, we always refer to our Orlando trip as 763 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 1: one long fuge state. Absolutely, that's what it was, Okay, 764 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 1: Nicole Um The loose episode. The loose theme for this 765 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 1: episode is sports. Sports. Sports. You just said that you 766 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 1: don't care for sports all that much, which is completely 767 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 1: well and good. I mean, is there anything I mean 768 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,840 Speaker 1: I don't watch sports? Really? I mean I kind of 769 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: got into sports, uh, I mean I was seeing a 770 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 1: guy who liked basketball a lot, and he was a 771 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 1: sportswriter at the time. Uh. And then for various relations 772 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 1: various reasons, the relationship didn't work out. And then now 773 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 1: we both look back and I'm like oh, thank god 774 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 1: that you moved away and it didn't didn't that never 775 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 1: would have worked, and now we're friends. Um, But so 776 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 1: I kind of got interested in it because of that, 777 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,760 Speaker 1: and then we were in that weird time after college 778 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 1: where it's like, Okay, I can't get a job unless 779 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: I have something to show for myself. But I don't 780 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 1: have like a portfolio because I don't have a job, 781 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: and it's just this endless loop of like you can't 782 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 1: ever get started. So I started blogging for free for 783 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 1: some basketball blog, and then I met somebody in a 784 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 1: sketch class who introduced me to somebody that Sports Illustrated. 785 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 1: And then I think, largely because Sports Illustrated need more women, 786 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: I've I've also exclusively worked in very male dominated fields, 787 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: and so I think many times I have been a 788 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,839 Speaker 1: diversity higher um, which has led me to be just like, 789 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 1: this is going to sound terrible for all of the 790 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: other affirmative action programs in the world, but I have 791 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 1: been vastly underqualified for every job I've ever had, except 792 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 1: for the one that I currently have, because I have 793 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 1: learned from the jobs I was under Yeah. Um, and 794 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 1: it's been like, because it's sports, it's very and like, yeah, 795 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: I don't care what work I'm making. I'll do whatever 796 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 1: you want me to do. I do think having worked 797 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 1: in sports for as long as I have, like I've 798 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 1: grown to appreciate it, and I think that it can 799 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,919 Speaker 1: be a very valuable lens for looking at other parts 800 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 1: of culture through. And I think the best thing about 801 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 1: sports is it's easy to make analogies and like explain 802 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 1: complicated concepts to people because sports is sort of a 803 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 1: a level playing field sports, um um. But there there 804 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 1: are very few sports, Like once I'm done working in sports, 805 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 1: I'm I will probably watch occasional basketball games. I'll watch golf, 806 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 1: and I don't think I'll ever watch another sporting of it. 807 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 1: And I'll watch the Olympics because Olympics are the best. 808 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:58,879 Speaker 1: But I used to be obsessed with Baseball League, obsessed, 809 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: like in a real way. It wasn't even like well 810 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: dead like this, So it was like in a real 811 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 1: way obsessed, like the way like you become obsessed with 812 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,319 Speaker 1: like a TV show, a TV show or anything like that. 813 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 1: It was like an obsessive thing. And now I look 814 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 1: back and I'm like, that's so funny, because I don't 815 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 1: even remember how that could happen, Like I don't even 816 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,359 Speaker 1: understand how that could happen now, and I think it's 817 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 1: part of Like it's like sports was one of those 818 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 1: things that got ruined for me as I got older, 819 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 1: because I realized it was all fake and like it 820 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 1: was one of those things where I was like, no, 821 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 1: I'm actually not going to give that a break. Like 822 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 1: like you you get older and you watch sports and 823 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 1: you realize while they're all on steroids, or most of 824 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 1: them are on steroids, and then like for example, with baseball, 825 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 1: like that that that entire world, like everything about that, 826 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 1: the game, it's so exciting, you know, the home run race. 827 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 1: To find out that those were two like actual monsters, 828 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: Sammy Sosa and Mark McGuire, it was like not something 829 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 1: I was willing to like forgive, Whereas like you get 830 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 1: a little older and you realize like the oscars are 831 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,800 Speaker 1: fixed or something, and like they pay for those awards 832 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 1: to be given out, and you're like I get that, 833 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,279 Speaker 1: it's a business. For me, it's like they're ruining these 834 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 1: men's bodies and it's crazy, Like with the doping things 835 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,359 Speaker 1: with the Olympics, I'm like, that to me is insane. 836 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 1: They can't be wanting to do this, and if they are, 837 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 1: there's like mental issues and like, also, have you seen 838 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 1: there's a great documentary called Bigger, Faster, Stronger that is 839 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 1: about steroids and it's it's very interesting. It's not the 840 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 1: most well made documentary because it's like a big gym 841 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 1: guy who's like, I want to expose steroid culture in 842 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 1: the gym, and he does like the best job he can. 843 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 1: But it's not never gonna be like Errol Morris, you know, 844 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 1: but that's very good. Um Um. The other thing that like, 845 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 1: sports is useful for me because I have a I'm 846 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,840 Speaker 1: a real weirdo and I, like I said, I for 847 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 1: sure have some level of aspurgers and sports is just 848 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 1: a very easy way for me to talk to people 849 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,239 Speaker 1: because it's like especially because like I don't I don't 850 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 1: get that much about sports. I'll be the first person 851 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 1: to admit that, but I understand the things to say 852 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 1: to make it sound like and then you just let 853 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 1: the other person talk and I was like, we're friends. Now. Yeah. 854 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 1: I find it very useful for me, but it's not 855 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 1: something I particularly enjoyed totally. I think I'm more like 856 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,360 Speaker 1: that with music. I'm in a full vacuum with sports, 857 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,280 Speaker 1: Like I honestly like I have such like you know nothing, 858 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 1: I will yeah, I mean pretty much nothing. I mean 859 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 1: I know like the like the like the real like 860 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 1: pervasive things that are like cut through. It's also, I 861 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 1: will say, growing up in Colorado around Broncos culture is 862 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 1: such a sports turn off. It was it was a 863 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 1: huge for me. I was like, why do you guys 864 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 1: worship this guy John Ellway? I mean, I know, like 865 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 1: like I don't know how you feel about John Elway, Nicole, 866 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,440 Speaker 1: but I moved I moved to Colorado, and I was like, 867 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 1: these people all worship this person. Why? Like I didn't 868 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,839 Speaker 1: like coming from Canada where it's like it didn't really 869 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,840 Speaker 1: matter as much. It's very weird. And I also have 870 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 1: like a lot of like ethical issues with the NFL now, 871 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 1: like you're there's a ninety seven percent chance that an 872 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 1: NFL player will get damage, Like that's not a thing 873 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 1: that we can like kids shouldn't be playing football, Like 874 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 1: I'm happy. I'm happy that that's coming out. And honestly, 875 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 1: I say that my father for thirty years was a 876 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 1: varsity football coach, and I think it's so a part 877 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:17,319 Speaker 1: of like that it's so part of the culture that 878 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,440 Speaker 1: like it's this it's really still really taboo where you 879 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 1: kind of want to tap people on the shoulder and 880 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,840 Speaker 1: be like, but actually, look at what's happening, Like, actually, 881 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 1: if an year old boy has multiple concussions, he's fucked 882 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 1: up for life. My dad was it's like one of 883 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,799 Speaker 1: the most naturally gifted athletes I've ever met. And he 884 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 1: was drafted by the Dallas Cowboys out of college UM 885 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 1: and he ended up not doing because this was in 886 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,160 Speaker 1: the seventies when it was like he would have been 887 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 1: a wide receiver. He was like a skinny, white guy 888 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 1: wide receiver and professional athletes didn't make the money back 889 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 1: then that they do now, and he knew he probably 890 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,320 Speaker 1: only had like a couple of years in him and 891 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 1: then he was like, I'm gonna have to go get 892 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 1: a real job, and then I've been like out of 893 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:57,799 Speaker 1: school for two years, and like didn't make sense. So 894 00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,840 Speaker 1: he turned it down for a variety of reasons. But 895 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 1: now I think, like, if he had a son, I 896 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,320 Speaker 1: don't know that he would have let his son play football, 897 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,280 Speaker 1: and he's and he even like because he's a physician, 898 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,799 Speaker 1: like he gets he treated kids with sports injuries all 899 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:15,839 Speaker 1: the time. Yeah yeah, um, and so he sees all 900 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 1: the injuries, and I think I think even he has 901 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 1: come around to being like football in its current state 902 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,239 Speaker 1: is bad. We gotta do something about it. And even 903 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 1: he still watches football as a fan, you know, it's 904 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:29,800 Speaker 1: just like so ingrained. And also like not even about 905 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 1: just their health, but the way that they act, I mean, 906 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 1: their wives, Like it's not it's not isolated, like it's crazy. 907 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 1: And I don't want to pretend that like other athletes 908 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 1: are like way better, but like, and if there's so 909 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 1: many problems in the al and I do think that 910 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 1: I also do think there's a racial element to it, 911 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 1: where it's like we why don't we care that that 912 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,439 Speaker 1: these men are kind of killing each other out there? 913 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 1: Is because they're black? Because like what a mostly white 914 00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 1: men on these teams, like mostly white men making the 915 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,759 Speaker 1: Asians like that feels kind of strange to me if 916 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,840 Speaker 1: you really think about it. Like the concept of of 917 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:11,760 Speaker 1: individuals owning sports teams is always like never made. It's bizarre. 918 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,000 Speaker 1: I mean it's like, oh, well trade this one and 919 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 1: that one, and this is the kind of thing where 920 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,320 Speaker 1: if you think too hard about it, you're like sports 921 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:24,319 Speaker 1: are bad. Yeah, it's bad because this money. That's why 922 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,719 Speaker 1: it's bad. It's bad because it's all about money. It's 923 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:30,360 Speaker 1: not about winning, it's really not at the end of 924 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 1: the day, like it's about money. And that is why 925 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:38,759 Speaker 1: no one is wanting to say anything about um these 926 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 1: these kind of sports injuries and what they do. And 927 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 1: also why for so long we didn't say anything about 928 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 1: the steroids because everyone fucking knew. Everyone knew. How Like 929 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,440 Speaker 1: if you I'll tell you you didn't know the fans 930 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,440 Speaker 1: because I think I think everyone just like ignorance is 931 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,319 Speaker 1: bliss and like you see these like hoaks of men. 932 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,319 Speaker 1: You see Mark McGuire and he's this marvel and you think, wow, 933 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,359 Speaker 1: he's our babe, Ruth, and you just keep living your 934 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:06,480 Speaker 1: goddamn life. But those team owners all knew, Like come on, 935 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 1: I remember I went to a double header the Mets 936 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,759 Speaker 1: versus the Cardinals in ninety eight. This is like three 937 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 1: quarters of the way through the season. We saw Marc 938 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 1: McGuire in batting practice hit seventeen home runs in batting prod. 939 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,480 Speaker 1: It was one of the most amazing things I've ever 940 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 1: seen in my entire life. I'll never forget it. And 941 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 1: I remember I I I stood like I was on 942 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 1: the floor level, on the ground level, but on the 943 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 1: third base side, like a little like ten rolls back. 944 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,480 Speaker 1: I had great teams for this double header with my dad, 945 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,319 Speaker 1: and just watching him do this and seeing how big 946 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,560 Speaker 1: he was even from Afar, how much bigger he wasn't 947 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 1: everyone else. I was like WHOA. And now to not 948 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,480 Speaker 1: to not even have that kind of feeling in your 949 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,799 Speaker 1: head like there's something weird going on here, Like there 950 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,759 Speaker 1: were grown men and grown adults they're like that were 951 00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,359 Speaker 1: around him, that knew and they ripped everybody off. It 952 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,920 Speaker 1: was fake, it was cheating. It was theater like culture 953 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:08,800 Speaker 1: number three, sports are no sports. Sports are back because 954 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,560 Speaker 1: like everything's fake, right, I mean, you grow up and 955 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,439 Speaker 1: you realize the politics are fake, the entertainment industry is fake. 956 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,759 Speaker 1: Sports are fake. But it's like there's something about this 957 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,400 Speaker 1: and pretending how noble it is that's what it is. 958 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 1: And I think that circle back around. Um. I think 959 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:28,239 Speaker 1: that's why maybe I am so drawn to like just 960 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:33,760 Speaker 1: really stupid dumb comedy because it's like it's not because 961 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,520 Speaker 1: it's not trying to be important, Like it's like there's 962 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,560 Speaker 1: no artifice in dumb comedy. Yeah, it's not like trying 963 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,839 Speaker 1: to like present itself as anything other than like this 964 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,640 Speaker 1: is dumb, right, Yeah, yeah, Like you guys know the 965 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,640 Speaker 1: world's fucking dumb. Right. It's all fake. It's all a thing. 966 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:51,800 Speaker 1: It's like what RuPaul says, it's the matrix. The matrix, honey, 967 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 1: Like this is I think ever since I heard this 968 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,200 Speaker 1: spoken out loud by RuPaul, it now makes so much 969 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,880 Speaker 1: sense to me. It's like the Wizard of Us. It's like, 970 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,200 Speaker 1: once you realize there's a man behind the curtain, you 971 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,840 Speaker 1: get disappointed in your instants to get angry, but it's like, 972 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,799 Speaker 1: don't get angry, just like understand the truth, which is 973 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,520 Speaker 1: that all everything is fake and then playing the playing 974 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,600 Speaker 1: the fakeness and why we get angry because we realized 975 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,960 Speaker 1: we got bought. That's why we're so mad. It's like 976 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 1: we got bought by the McGuire Sosa thing and like, 977 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,960 Speaker 1: come on, that was so stupid. And I just remember, 978 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,279 Speaker 1: like I think even the next three years after that, 979 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,640 Speaker 1: like hearing even for a second, like the first time 980 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,960 Speaker 1: I think I heard like Mark McGuire cheating sterots, I 981 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,399 Speaker 1: think I knew even that I was like, oh shit, 982 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,160 Speaker 1: like I got it back away from this. This is 983 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 1: so stupid. It was. It was over for me. After 984 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,440 Speaker 1: the Subway Series. I was like, no way, you think 985 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,960 Speaker 1: you can pinpoint your like distaste within disenchantment with sports 986 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,040 Speaker 1: to the tim I think I can. I think I 987 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:51,799 Speaker 1: can pin put what with baseball? I think I can 988 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,279 Speaker 1: pinpointed to when the rest of the fucking country was like, 989 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:58,440 Speaker 1: funk this. Everybody in the country was tuned in for 990 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 1: the Subway Series. It wasn't just a New York thing 991 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,840 Speaker 1: to my understanding, it was like nationwide. It was like 992 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,359 Speaker 1: such a big deal. Everyone thought about the home run race. 993 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,160 Speaker 1: That was national news. It was on the cover of 994 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,719 Speaker 1: every newspaper. It was such a big deal. Now, who 995 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:16,239 Speaker 1: fucking cares? It's like, what, we're gonna be surprised, Like 996 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,640 Speaker 1: a Rod's fucking who he's dow doped up. They're They're like, 997 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,640 Speaker 1: he's getting retiring, Okay, cool. I would have thought he 998 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,440 Speaker 1: was gone five years ago. Like maybe it's just in 999 00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:28,000 Speaker 1: my priorities and like the way I entertained myself have changed, 1000 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,719 Speaker 1: But like I feel like nobody really takes it that 1001 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,560 Speaker 1: seriously anymore. Sure, I mean, I have I have no 1002 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,839 Speaker 1: context for this. So this is really I mean, it's 1003 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:39,040 Speaker 1: really it's really difficult to enforce people talking more about 1004 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,840 Speaker 1: the fucking halftime shows than they are the Super Bowls, 1005 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,719 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like they really are like 1006 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,520 Speaker 1: who cares anymore? Like I don't know, I guess people do. 1007 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,719 Speaker 1: But wow. And then this has nothing to do with anything. 1008 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:55,040 Speaker 1: But I watched it last night. Um, but uh, there's 1009 00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,520 Speaker 1: this documentary called funk. I think it's called All This Mayhem, 1010 00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:00,800 Speaker 1: I think, but it's about so Tony Hawk was the 1011 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,960 Speaker 1: first skateboarder to land. Uh. And then there's like there's 1012 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,279 Speaker 1: some people who say that like this other guy did 1013 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,960 Speaker 1: it in practice, but like the camera didn't quite catch it. 1014 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,400 Speaker 1: But like he's the first guy who like here I 1015 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,280 Speaker 1: did it. I did in a contest. Here's here forgetable 1016 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,040 Speaker 1: proof that I did it. But this is a documentary 1017 00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:20,040 Speaker 1: about these two like Australian guys who they explicitly say 1018 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 1: like from the moment I still had skateboarding, I just 1019 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,279 Speaker 1: knew I had got to America because I had to 1020 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,279 Speaker 1: beat Hawk. And it's and their whole thing is like 1021 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,080 Speaker 1: they just want to beat Tony Hawk. And and the 1022 00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:32,080 Speaker 1: documentary like sets it up as like like these guys 1023 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,320 Speaker 1: were better skateboarders than Tony Hawk, and Tony Hawk was 1024 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,440 Speaker 1: a big dick to them, and there's a conspiracy to 1025 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 1: prevent them from spinning this trick in the in the 1026 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,479 Speaker 1: whenever I guess X Games, I think like they kept 1027 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,920 Speaker 1: him out and these guys were better skateboarders. And then 1028 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,799 Speaker 1: like the rest of the documentary is just like their 1029 00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:54,920 Speaker 1: lives like falling apart, and then every yeah, and then 1030 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,280 Speaker 1: and then I read an interview with Tony Hawk afterwards 1031 00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,480 Speaker 1: and he was like, they literally made free thing in 1032 00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:06,279 Speaker 1: that documentary. Yeah, and and I watched that. Man, I'm 1033 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,320 Speaker 1: obsessed with these kind of documentaries where it's like shitty 1034 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,879 Speaker 1: dudes who are capable of doing one really good thing 1035 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 1: and then they just can't their lives ball apart. There's 1036 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,239 Speaker 1: a documentary about the guy who made he wrote the 1037 00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,040 Speaker 1: script for Reservoir Dogs or excuse me at Reservoir Dogs. 1038 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,520 Speaker 1: That's Tarantino Boon doc Saints Uh. And he was just 1039 00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,120 Speaker 1: like a shitty boss and guy who was working as 1040 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,480 Speaker 1: a bar tex in l A. And he wrote the 1041 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,440 Speaker 1: script and somehow it got to the Weinstein Company and 1042 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,319 Speaker 1: they were like, yeah, we'll buy it, and so then 1043 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,719 Speaker 1: he got famous and then he just like brought all 1044 00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,920 Speaker 1: of his weird Boston friends into it. And and the 1045 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:37,839 Speaker 1: reason there's so much footage is because he was so 1046 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:39,600 Speaker 1: into himself that he made one of his friends just 1047 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:43,799 Speaker 1: film everything. And and there's like twenty speeches that he's 1048 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,520 Speaker 1: giving his friends where he's like, we're gonna, we're gonna 1049 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,520 Speaker 1: fucking shape shake this town up. Yes, we're gonna shake 1050 00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,719 Speaker 1: this up, and we're gonna do something that nobody's ever 1051 00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,120 Speaker 1: done before. Because he was in a shitty band also, 1052 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,880 Speaker 1: so he was and we're gonna we're gonna dominate the 1053 00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,280 Speaker 1: box office, and we're going to dominate the music trucks. 1054 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,040 Speaker 1: Nobody's ever done that before. And I wanted to be 1055 00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:09,440 Speaker 1: like tons of people, Dolly Parton, Elvis Barber streissand like 1056 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:14,440 Speaker 1: Frank Sinatra, like Madonna, like so many people. But he 1057 00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,239 Speaker 1: was like, this band is going and then you never 1058 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,080 Speaker 1: actually hear their band play. They got a record. So 1059 00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:23,520 Speaker 1: this guy sold the screenplay for Boondock Saints and then 1060 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:27,480 Speaker 1: somehow his band got signed to a record deal because 1061 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,759 Speaker 1: of the script for Boodoc Saints, and the record label 1062 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,719 Speaker 1: had never heard this band play. They were just like, 1063 00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,799 Speaker 1: well you did Boondock Saints well like you and then 1064 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:37,560 Speaker 1: like the record deal falls apart and they like can't 1065 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:44,000 Speaker 1: stop drinking, and it's like saints. Literally every older kid 1066 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:45,480 Speaker 1: on my track team, and I was like, ran a 1067 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,279 Speaker 1: cross country in high school and like the guys with 1068 00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,040 Speaker 1: like long hair who were like did track, they all 1069 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,440 Speaker 1: called boondoc Saints in their sts. Is the movie that 1070 00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,400 Speaker 1: like the seniors in high school like exactly, they were like, 1071 00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,799 Speaker 1: you don't get it, but like and now, if I 1072 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,239 Speaker 1: think about it, I'm like, was there a plot to 1073 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:06,840 Speaker 1: that movie? Have you ever seen the Tanya Harding documentary? No, 1074 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,640 Speaker 1: it's been on my list for forever. You must it 1075 00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:14,480 Speaker 1: is because it's truly a crazy person on display. I mean, 1076 00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,120 Speaker 1: and she's just got so much of her own belief 1077 00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,400 Speaker 1: in herself in her eyes, and she's sitting there telling you, like, 1078 00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:24,359 Speaker 1: listen to fucking conspiracy, and you're like, you truly are 1079 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:28,920 Speaker 1: a crazy person on a global stage. Like and and honestly, 1080 00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,120 Speaker 1: I two things I think are fascinating which I never 1081 00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,200 Speaker 1: really got until recently. Well three, I mean the Lewinsky 1082 00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,560 Speaker 1: thing like now is fascinating to me because truly you 1083 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,680 Speaker 1: understand how cruel America was to her, and that was 1084 00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:45,160 Speaker 1: a story not of a president cheating on his wife, 1085 00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,000 Speaker 1: because honestly, she probably knew about it, and I don't 1086 00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:49,720 Speaker 1: think she really cared. I think she ever to pretend 1087 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,960 Speaker 1: she cared. But I think that's a story about America 1088 00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:54,640 Speaker 1: turning their back on that woman. And I thought, I 1089 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:56,520 Speaker 1: think I think it's a story of the first real 1090 00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,880 Speaker 1: online bullying. I think we'll look back on that in 1091 00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,319 Speaker 1: a hundred years and saying that was the state of 1092 00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,759 Speaker 1: the world at that time. But also the o J situation, 1093 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:06,880 Speaker 1: I had no idea he was as big as he was. 1094 00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:13,120 Speaker 1: Did you watch then't? But there's stuff that takes place 1095 00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,400 Speaker 1: in that documentary that would not be tolerated in a 1096 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,000 Speaker 1: scripted series, because like, this could never happen, but it 1097 00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,399 Speaker 1: did for him. And there's a point in episode one 1098 00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,799 Speaker 1: where one of OJ's high school friends is like, I 1099 00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,640 Speaker 1: remember we played a hilarious prank on o J one 1100 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,759 Speaker 1: day one day. We were we were all alone in 1101 00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,920 Speaker 1: the locker room, and we pulled a gun on him. 1102 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:35,120 Speaker 1: That's the brank. Oh my god, that's it. It's crazy. 1103 00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:37,960 Speaker 1: I didn't because I've only ever known him as a murderer. 1104 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:42,200 Speaker 1: The trial happened that a football player. I remember I 1105 00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,920 Speaker 1: saw I started watching The People versus O J. The 1106 00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,040 Speaker 1: Ryan Murphy Show, and I was like, so hold on, 1107 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,280 Speaker 1: so good, and I was like, hold on a second. 1108 00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:54,240 Speaker 1: He was like a hero already, that famous. I texted 1109 00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,880 Speaker 1: my dad, I'm like, how famous was O J. Simpson 1110 00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,160 Speaker 1: at the time of his arrest? And he responded he 1111 00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,640 Speaker 1: was the most famous this athlete of his generation. And 1112 00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,520 Speaker 1: he was more than that. He was a movie star. 1113 00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:05,799 Speaker 1: He was on commercials. He was the first like kind 1114 00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:09,040 Speaker 1: of like sports start to do that. And then I 1115 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:10,880 Speaker 1: was like, okay, so this is like as if Michael 1116 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,480 Speaker 1: Jordan or Lebron James or like Serena Williams. This is 1117 00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,760 Speaker 1: where it happened. To know. Do you follow Serena Williams 1118 00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:20,880 Speaker 1: on Snapchat? She's unbelievable, so I hear, but I have 1119 00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:26,279 Speaker 1: yet to follow. That's documentary to the Serena and Venus documentary. 1120 00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:33,040 Speaker 1: That's the truth. She did seventy fucking whatever questions was incredible. Yeah, 1121 00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:37,439 Speaker 1: she's funny. It's also amazing. In the sorry video she's 1122 00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,919 Speaker 1: just getting on Instagram, there's this toast filter. I don't 1123 00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:42,719 Speaker 1: know if you've seen it. There's literally a filter that's 1124 00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,439 Speaker 1: just a piece of toast with a hole for your face. 1125 00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:49,120 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and she just does it just looks so fun. 1126 00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:50,800 Speaker 1: She's one of the good ones, and she's one of 1127 00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,480 Speaker 1: the best athletes of all times, so good for her. 1128 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,200 Speaker 1: The third one that I want to say is what 1129 00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,640 Speaker 1: I can't believe is the fucking Tanya Harding and Nancy 1130 00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:04,000 Speaker 1: Karragan thing. I can't leave that happened. Yeah it is, 1131 00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:09,880 Speaker 1: And it was figure skating. It was figure skating it, 1132 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,200 Speaker 1: which makes it so much more perfect. Like, you can't 1133 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,720 Speaker 1: come with a better character than Tanya Harding, the figure 1134 00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:18,680 Speaker 1: skating World champion, trailer trash, you can't come up with 1135 00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:25,759 Speaker 1: And yeah, why you can't. They have to do it 1136 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,439 Speaker 1: because like it's not you can't do American crime story 1137 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,360 Speaker 1: because like nobody died, but they need to give it 1138 00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:35,920 Speaker 1: the people versus you need American crimes. What is it 1139 00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:40,160 Speaker 1: called American crime story? The people versus Tanya Harding. We 1140 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:43,160 Speaker 1: need something we need to sweep because you could do 1141 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,680 Speaker 1: American crime story and then not do the people versus 1142 00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:51,200 Speaker 1: you could just do American crime story hearted and get 1143 00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,440 Speaker 1: like fucking Sarah Pauls and the player people. Honestly, that 1144 00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,759 Speaker 1: would be perfect. I would live, die and come back 1145 00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,920 Speaker 1: to life. For that. You got to get involved in 1146 00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,000 Speaker 1: that show somehow. God, I mean I wanted like weird 1147 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,560 Speaker 1: dumb boyfriend. I know Jeff Galulely, Yeah, who was one 1148 00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:09,719 Speaker 1: of the guys who beat her up. Jeff Galuley was 1149 00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,719 Speaker 1: one of the people that hired the two like the 1150 00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:17,680 Speaker 1: two fucking true idiots to try to kill or beat 1151 00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:23,640 Speaker 1: up No, no, no, no, what are you doing? Like 1152 00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:28,240 Speaker 1: so and in honest to God broad daylight, like truly, 1153 00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,640 Speaker 1: like and then what are you doing? Just the circus 1154 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:37,400 Speaker 1: and like just and also like the amount of ship 1155 00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,440 Speaker 1: that she got for like literally like who knows if 1156 00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,200 Speaker 1: it was like a little put on or not. I 1157 00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,840 Speaker 1: don't know Nancy carry, but I believe that Nancy Kerrigan 1158 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,280 Speaker 1: like is a little bit of a piece of work too, 1159 00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,560 Speaker 1: because she was like truly that she's the face of 1160 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:55,120 Speaker 1: white privilege. But Tanya is also white. But Tanya never 1161 00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,760 Speaker 1: had any privilege in her. God, that's the thing. Is 1162 00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,280 Speaker 1: like when you watch the documentary, you're like you're almost 1163 00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:05,960 Speaker 1: like this bitch had to go. She was rich, she 1164 00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,560 Speaker 1: had the endorsements, she had to go she had to 1165 00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,880 Speaker 1: get clubbed. That's beautiful. We had to clear the way 1166 00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,760 Speaker 1: for Tanya. No one, no one's fully good, no one's 1167 00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,040 Speaker 1: fully evil. I love that. Shades of gray, Shades of gray. 1168 00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,120 Speaker 1: It's a game of Thrones. Bits. It's the rule number 1169 00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:24,800 Speaker 1: seven eight of culture. There is a shade. That's the rule. Listen. 1170 00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,520 Speaker 1: I can't believe those three stories of the nineties truly 1171 00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:29,280 Speaker 1: can only have happened in the nineties. But then again, 1172 00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,840 Speaker 1: here we have Trump running for goddamn president, so maybe 1173 00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:33,520 Speaker 1: it all gets more. But you know what, Also, as 1174 00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,840 Speaker 1: we learned today, the title of this episode, life is 1175 00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,120 Speaker 1: a farce. Life is a farcet, a theme that we've 1176 00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,840 Speaker 1: touched on multiple times. We've come to a segment in 1177 00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:44,320 Speaker 1: our show. Um, this is a favorite segment. This is 1178 00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,680 Speaker 1: uh called I don't think so, honey. Now you have 1179 00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:51,760 Speaker 1: to pick something in culture that you are feeling some 1180 00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,080 Speaker 1: kind of way about, and you got to rail against 1181 00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,560 Speaker 1: it and say I don't think so, honey, as many 1182 00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:58,760 Speaker 1: times as many times as possible. It doesn't have to 1183 00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:02,840 Speaker 1: necessarily make sense. That has to do we all do one. 1184 00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:04,880 Speaker 1: You have to say I don't think so, honey, and 1185 00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:08,000 Speaker 1: you gotta be passionate. Okay, so I have one. You're 1186 00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:09,960 Speaker 1: gonna go first because I have one too. You go first, though, 1187 00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:11,760 Speaker 1: I actually can't prepared this week. I can't prepared this 1188 00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,320 Speaker 1: week too. I came Sam, I prepared, okay, same. I 1189 00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,440 Speaker 1: give me your phone so I can do the clock. Alright. 1190 00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,960 Speaker 1: So this is bone Yang. I don't think so, honey. 1191 00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,760 Speaker 1: And I don't think so, honey. Chinese Consulate and the 1192 00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,280 Speaker 1: Chinese Consulate website, Honey, I don't think so honey. The 1193 00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,320 Speaker 1: website for not being very clear with the guidelines on 1194 00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,440 Speaker 1: how what, what paperwork I should bring, what should be notorized, 1195 00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,280 Speaker 1: what ideas I should bring, what in fighter identification I 1196 00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,280 Speaker 1: should bring? It is not clear whatsoever. And I'm not 1197 00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,000 Speaker 1: I'm not going to wait in line for hours and 1198 00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:40,880 Speaker 1: hours of the consult which is only open five days 1199 00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,080 Speaker 1: a week, weekdays from nine am to two th pm. 1200 00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:46,040 Speaker 1: Horrible hours. Why can't you accommodate those of us who 1201 00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:47,919 Speaker 1: work from who were from nine to five. I don't 1202 00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,760 Speaker 1: think so, honey, for those stupid hours. I don't think so, honey, 1203 00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:52,360 Speaker 1: for I'm not gonna wait in line for for that 1204 00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,320 Speaker 1: much time and then have me turned away from the 1205 00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,560 Speaker 1: window because I don't have the appropriate paperwork filled out, 1206 00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,760 Speaker 1: or the run amount of copies or what have you. 1207 00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:00,520 Speaker 1: I don't think, so honey, this is a farce. I 1208 01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:02,520 Speaker 1: want to get into my country that my parents grew 1209 01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:05,080 Speaker 1: up in, that my grandparents lived in, all my extended 1210 01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:07,520 Speaker 1: family is from. I have a connection to this country. 1211 01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,280 Speaker 1: And I understand that things are sensitive right now with 1212 01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,000 Speaker 1: with with people with tourism COMPARI to China. But I 1213 01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,240 Speaker 1: don't think, so honey, this should be an easier process. 1214 01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:17,600 Speaker 1: You should trust me implicitly when I try to go 1215 01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,560 Speaker 1: back to China to get a visa. I don't think so, honey. 1216 01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,800 Speaker 1: That is one minute that I don't think so honey. 1217 01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:26,439 Speaker 1: And boy it was. It was more words per minute 1218 01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:28,280 Speaker 1: than you've ever had. I got very you know what, 1219 01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,600 Speaker 1: I get very flustered, and I get a little marble now. 1220 01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:34,880 Speaker 1: Um you know, it's thank you, Nicole. But wow, I 1221 01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:36,640 Speaker 1: just think I think now it's going to be easier 1222 01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,439 Speaker 1: At the Consulate, they heard that, and they're gonna they're 1223 01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,360 Speaker 1: going to clear the way. Conflicts are part of culture 1224 01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:43,760 Speaker 1: and we need to hold them accountable as cultural institutions. 1225 01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,160 Speaker 1: That's what we're living in. Yes, Okay, I have one, 1226 01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:50,120 Speaker 1: and it's not going to be as um as a 1227 01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:54,320 Speaker 1: incisive as yours was just getting more passionate. Great, here 1228 01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:57,160 Speaker 1: we go. I love passion and incisiveness, but sometimes we 1229 01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,840 Speaker 1: can only do one. Okay, here we go. One minute starts. Now. 1230 01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:05,400 Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, that one blonde punedit that 1231 01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:09,360 Speaker 1: I see on all the shows, and you know who 1232 01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:13,320 Speaker 1: you are. I'm not even kidding about this anymore. I 1233 01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,320 Speaker 1: saw you after the debate, I saw you after the 1234 01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:19,200 Speaker 1: Republican National Convention. It's you. And I don't know her name, 1235 01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:22,800 Speaker 1: but I I know her face, and she is the one. 1236 01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,720 Speaker 1: And in her eyes whenever she talks to somebody who 1237 01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:27,880 Speaker 1: is at of a different race than her, you could 1238 01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:31,200 Speaker 1: see fear in her eyes. And I call her out 1239 01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:33,880 Speaker 1: because I look at her and she was actually trying 1240 01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,680 Speaker 1: to tell a black gentleman on CNN and the other 1241 01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:41,080 Speaker 1: day that Obama has done less for the black community 1242 01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,440 Speaker 1: than Donald Trump will. And it was crazy, and I 1243 01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:46,400 Speaker 1: was like, you are the kind of person who if 1244 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:47,960 Speaker 1: you were walking on the street and you saw a 1245 01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,240 Speaker 1: black person coming your way, you would pull your bag 1246 01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,880 Speaker 1: tighter to you. Shame on you. You have deer in 1247 01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:56,160 Speaker 1: the headlight eyes, you have blonde hair. I've seen you before. 1248 01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:59,080 Speaker 1: I'll finish you, and I'm done with you, and I'll 1249 01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:01,200 Speaker 1: find your name. I'll say next episode. That's one minute. 1250 01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,600 Speaker 1: That's one minute. I don't know her name. Okay, it's 1251 01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:09,240 Speaker 1: a Danna Bash. She's on CNN. You look Dana Bash. 1252 01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:12,240 Speaker 1: She's not particularly conservative, but I don't know who. It's 1253 01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:16,680 Speaker 1: not like Mica Fox. It is not. It is not 1254 01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:24,440 Speaker 1: Mica brasin Ski. I know her, but look the same. 1255 01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:27,480 Speaker 1: I mean, especially on Fox. But okay, it's crazy, we'll 1256 01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:29,280 Speaker 1: get stupid. We'll get to the bottom of this. Okay, 1257 01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:31,000 Speaker 1: But Nicole, are you ready for your one man? Think? 1258 01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:34,640 Speaker 1: So honey? All right, and here we go. Okay, war Dogs, 1259 01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:37,920 Speaker 1: I don't think, so honey. I don't think so honey. 1260 01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:40,240 Speaker 1: I have I seen it? No, am I gonna see it. 1261 01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:43,800 Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. H war Dogs looks like 1262 01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:47,000 Speaker 1: exactly like Wolf of Wall Street, which I hated, but 1263 01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:51,400 Speaker 1: minus the attractive main character. It's just two ugly guys. 1264 01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:53,600 Speaker 1: And now instead of a story about how one person 1265 01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,160 Speaker 1: sucked over a first world country, now it's about how 1266 01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:59,600 Speaker 1: two guys fuck over a third world country. I don't 1267 01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,320 Speaker 1: think so honey. Wolf of Wall Street was the movie 1268 01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:05,240 Speaker 1: version of a story that a drunk, coked out coworker 1269 01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:07,200 Speaker 1: you barely know tells you at a party that will 1270 01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:10,520 Speaker 1: not end. I don't think so, honey. Those actors are 1271 01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:14,080 Speaker 1: not real actors. That screenplays not a real screenplay. I 1272 01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:17,640 Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. It's being marketed to fourteen year 1273 01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:21,360 Speaker 1: old boys who are now. It's propaganda. All it is 1274 01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,120 Speaker 1: is propaganda for fourteen year old boys to suddenly love war. 1275 01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:26,760 Speaker 1: It's exactly what Jared Head was. It's exactly what Apocalypse 1276 01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:29,120 Speaker 1: Now was back in the day. I don't think so, honey. 1277 01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:32,920 Speaker 1: I'm not going to support this regime, especially when you 1278 01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:34,880 Speaker 1: can go see sucking. War dogs are not war dogs. 1279 01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:36,439 Speaker 1: But you can see bad moms, which is great. Yes, 1280 01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:39,480 Speaker 1: that's one minute. Wow, alright? And who was in that? 1281 01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:43,880 Speaker 1: Ad Adam Divine? Who in war Dog Sucking? Uh? The 1282 01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:50,760 Speaker 1: guy who he was in um Wolf of Wall Street? Uh, 1283 01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:54,520 Speaker 1: he's in it. Uh it might be Adam. It's it's 1284 01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:55,880 Speaker 1: not Adam David, but I think it's a guy who 1285 01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:59,200 Speaker 1: looks like him. It's an average white guy playing an 1286 01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:06,480 Speaker 1: average white guy character based on a true story about people. Honestly, 1287 01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:11,040 Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, Miles Teller, No, I don't think, 1288 01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:18,240 Speaker 1: do you say, I don't think. I can't. I can't 1289 01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:22,720 Speaker 1: say what I'll say what he's done, and I'm noxious 1290 01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:27,640 Speaker 1: interviewing Esquire. Oh he's the guy. He's And also I 1291 01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:30,640 Speaker 1: met the fiance of the woman that wrote that article. 1292 01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:34,320 Speaker 1: It was so random. He actually is Henry's friend. And 1293 01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:36,520 Speaker 1: I was out for drinks with Henry and his friends 1294 01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:38,360 Speaker 1: and this guy goes, yeah, I'm getting married. And I 1295 01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,120 Speaker 1: was like, oh, what does your wife do? And he said, 1296 01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:44,000 Speaker 1: she's a writer for Esquire. She you might have read 1297 01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,360 Speaker 1: that article about Miles Teller. She wrote it. I'm like, 1298 01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:49,480 Speaker 1: that was amazing and started a real conversation about what 1299 01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:52,320 Speaker 1: a fucking douche stick. I love that he's out of 1300 01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:56,800 Speaker 1: the closet. Oh yeah he's. And he's also like it also, truly, 1301 01:04:57,080 --> 01:05:00,680 Speaker 1: I don't need any more leonto dicaprios. I don't need them. 1302 01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:02,720 Speaker 1: Like I don't need them. I want to give me more, 1303 01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:05,920 Speaker 1: as always tell Donna's give me give more, Hallie Berry's 1304 01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:09,040 Speaker 1: rule number A hundred and six of culture. I don't 1305 01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:16,680 Speaker 1: need no dicaprios, give me more. The best rule you know, 1306 01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:19,280 Speaker 1: I just want to say one thing before we close. UM, 1307 01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:21,360 Speaker 1: for those of you that are friends with me on Facebook, 1308 01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:24,960 Speaker 1: which you all probably are. UM, I love doing my 1309 01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:28,400 Speaker 1: own podcast where I'm like addressing a broader audience, but 1310 01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,000 Speaker 1: I know who you are, and if you haven't friends 1311 01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:32,840 Speaker 1: with me yet, friend me. I usually will see if 1312 01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:35,600 Speaker 1: we have over ten utual friends and then we'll accept it. There. 1313 01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:38,320 Speaker 1: You open myself up to a lot of people that way. UM. 1314 01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:40,800 Speaker 1: I just want to say I posted the trailer of 1315 01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:47,000 Speaker 1: a movie called Kidnap Out with Berry, and this is 1316 01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:50,160 Speaker 1: the trailer of the century. Nicole. You might know this 1317 01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:52,720 Speaker 1: is there is there an award for best trailer. I 1318 01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:54,360 Speaker 1: think there is. I don't know what it's called, but 1319 01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,200 Speaker 1: I think there is, and that trailer should win. It 1320 01:05:56,280 --> 01:06:01,760 Speaker 1: should win. Every time she says oh god, oh god, 1321 01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:04,080 Speaker 1: every time she just talk, the whole movie is her 1322 01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:07,280 Speaker 1: talking to herself. The whole movie is oh no, where's 1323 01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:12,320 Speaker 1: my phone? Oh god, my son, my kid? You listen 1324 01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:16,760 Speaker 1: to me. I will never stop to get my kids. 1325 01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:19,080 Speaker 1: Does she have a contract? Is there something in her 1326 01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:21,680 Speaker 1: rider that says that she must say, you listen to me, 1327 01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:26,000 Speaker 1: you listen to me, you listen to me. Would be 1328 01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:30,480 Speaker 1: a great title for a lot. And she even says, 1329 01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:32,880 Speaker 1: let me tell you something, let me tell you something, 1330 01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:34,960 Speaker 1: and the best line, the best line that ends that 1331 01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:40,360 Speaker 1: whole trailer, you took the wrong kids blackout, which somebody 1332 01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:43,560 Speaker 1: also Andrew Farmer posted on the status Honestly, this is 1333 01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:45,880 Speaker 1: so real. They were like, also glad the person that 1334 01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:49,720 Speaker 1: stole the kid isn't a very easy to see turquoise 1335 01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:55,800 Speaker 1: getaway station wagon. It's the easiest color to see in 1336 01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:58,320 Speaker 1: the world. Like, so it's so I love it. I 1337 01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:02,600 Speaker 1: love these Taken movies. It's basically Taken. It's Red Eye 1338 01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:09,080 Speaker 1: meets Obsessed meets meets Flight Pan meets Speed meets I 1339 01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,320 Speaker 1: love it. I live for these. We need more of them. 1340 01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:14,720 Speaker 1: I don't feel like there's enough. We need one character 1341 01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:19,320 Speaker 1: halle Berry Chase Thrill. Yes, I hope they're calling it 1342 01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:21,840 Speaker 1: a thriller because I'm thrilled. I'm thrilled, Baby, I'm thrilled. 1343 01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,640 Speaker 1: We'll listen, maybe we'll will see it. I will do 1344 01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:27,240 Speaker 1: that after we're done recording. Let's pick a day I'll go. 1345 01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:30,120 Speaker 1: The last Nicole and I saw together was The Artist, 1346 01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:33,520 Speaker 1: and I think, thank you so much, Nicole for coming 1347 01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:36,080 Speaker 1: hold Nicole, where can we find you? On some you 1348 01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:38,360 Speaker 1: can find me very confusing. There's a fourteen year old 1349 01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:41,120 Speaker 1: girl in Australia who snatched up some of the yeah 1350 01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:43,760 Speaker 1: so on Twitter. It's at Nicole Conlin on Instagram and 1351 01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:47,800 Speaker 1: snapchats at the Nicole Conlin the the you can look 1352 01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:52,080 Speaker 1: up Steve Adore comedy and I think that's about it. 1353 01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:55,360 Speaker 1: Great Nicole. We love you so much. We love it. 1354 01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:58,120 Speaker 1: Lost Culture Racist podcast. Thank you, Forever Dog, Thank you 1355 01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:05,960 Speaker 1: for listening. Thank you yang By. This has been a 1356 01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:10,360 Speaker 1: Forever Dog production executive produced by Joe Cilio, Alex Ramsay, 1357 01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:13,880 Speaker 1: and Brett Bohm. For more podcasts, please visit Forever Dog 1358 01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:19,960 Speaker 1: Productions dot com. Dog h