1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. We are coming 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: to you from the Sea Geeks studio and the mini 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: camp portion of the off season calendar has come to 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: a close, which means the entire off season program is 5 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: now in the books. Now, Cliff, it's off time. It's 6 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: vacation season. Yes, Ryan Mayk already got to start a 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: vacation season. He's skipped mandatory mini camp. Heavy finds will 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: be coming his way for skipping mandatory mini camp. But 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: we were here and mini camps in the books, and 10 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: now it's a little break before training camp opens in 11 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: late July. So Cliff and I are here to give 12 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: you our takeaways of what we saw throughout this week 13 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: and kind of where this team stands at this point 14 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 1: of the off season going into training camp. So after 15 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: watching practice this week, what stands out to. 16 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: You, Well, I guess you got to start with the 17 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: obvious with Obj. 18 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 3: The fact that he's here participating in drills, looking healthy 19 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 3: and in a really good place mentally. That is something 20 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 3: that you going into camp. That was probably number one question. 21 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 3: What's he going to look like? Now we've seen him, 22 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 3: we've heard from him, all systems go look like with him, 23 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 3: and then the fact that he's going to get together 24 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 3: with Lamar before. 25 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: Training camp more more good news there. 26 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 3: So I would start with that, and then I guess 27 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 3: the letter O is big because I think David Ojabo 28 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 3: is another guy who I feel is trending upward. I 29 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 3: thought he was impressive during OTA's and then Mini camp. 30 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 3: I believe he's built on that. He was really a 31 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 3: favorite player of mine at Michigan, and we all know, 32 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 3: you know what happened with the injury at the Pro 33 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 3: Day and really kind of ruined his rookie season. I 34 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 3: think he's all the way back, in fact, maybe even better. 35 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 3: You know, he's had a year to get stronger, you know, 36 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 3: more mature. He's still a young guy. He's still a 37 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 3: guy hasn't played a lot of football in his life. 38 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 3: So he's definitely one guy in the right direction. 39 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's hang on a jaba for a second here, 40 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: because I'm with you. I mean, when I watch him, like, 41 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: he definitely looks like a guy where the injury is 42 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: a distant memory, like it does not at all seem 43 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: like he's getting nursed along or held back like, and 44 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: he's playing with energy and swagger, which I would say, 45 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: like is is great first of all, and you know, 46 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: for a second year player, some guys have that, some 47 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: guys don't. But for a guy who like really hasn't 48 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: played much, like at all, Like he's playing with at 49 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: a level from an energy standpoint and from a confident standpoint, 50 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: that I would say is kind of rare for a 51 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: guy who's in his situation. And I like that, Like, 52 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: I just like that the energy that he's bringing. Like 53 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: there was one play, uh in Wednesday's practice where he 54 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: basically it was an RPO play, he shot into the 55 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: backfield brought that I mean he didn't actually a lamar, 56 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: but got to lamar for what would have been a 57 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: couple yard loss, and he was celebrating it. And like 58 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: it seems like after plays, whether he makes the player 59 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: or other guys make the play, he's celebrating it. I 60 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: just like the like the energy that he brings out 61 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: there on the field, Like you can, he seems like 62 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: a guy who is super confident in what he's able 63 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: to do. 64 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, very enthusiastic as you meant, as you mentioned, brings 65 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 3: a lot of energy. And I'm just wondering as you 66 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 3: were talking that you know, I mean it's not a secret. 67 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 3: He played for Mike McDonald at Michigan, and I think that, 68 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 3: first of all, you know, he's a young player, this 69 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 3: system and this defensive concept is not foreign to him 70 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 3: because he has that experience. Number Two, he knows that 71 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 3: Mike McDonald knows what he can do. And it's kind 72 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 3: of like, Okay, he has a lot to prove as 73 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 3: far as being an NFL player, but he doesn't have 74 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 3: I don't think much to proved to McDonald because he's 75 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 3: done it for him and that might be freeing him 76 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 3: up as a young player that he's not worried about 77 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 3: making mistake. He's not wanting to feel like, well, you 78 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 3: know this coach, he doesn't really know me, and I 79 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 3: have all these vets around. I'm trying to make a 80 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 3: good first impression. He already has made his impression on 81 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 3: Mike McDonald, so now they're just doing it in a 82 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 3: new place. So again, he doesn't look like he's playing 83 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 3: like he's thinking too much. That he's not hesitating, as 84 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 3: you mentioned, just confidence, which in a young player at 85 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 3: this level, the highest level, you really like to see. 86 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's kind of puts, you know, at this 87 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: point of the offseason, Like now that the OTA has 88 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: been to camp, all that's done and you kind of 89 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: get into this mode where DaCosta and Harball they'll take 90 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: stock of where the team is at this point. And 91 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: if pass rusher's a position that we've all talked about 92 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: the potential of adding somebody, of course, we all know 93 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: Justin Houston's still sitting out there and the Ravens have 94 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: signed him late in the process the past two years, 95 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: and maybe they end up calling Justin Houston wouldn't hate 96 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: that at all, you know, and I feel like that 97 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: would be a good move in a lot of ways. 98 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: But if they even if they don't do that, I'm 99 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: feeling pretty good about that outside linebacker group. Tyas s 100 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: Bowser's working his way back. He did practice in a 101 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: limited capacity during mini camp, so he's gonna be, you know, 102 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: back into the fold. And so with you know, basically 103 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: a jabo in Oway or taking all the all the 104 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: first team reps during practice, and both of those guys 105 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: look pretty good. Oh wait, I thought I had a 106 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 1: pretty good week too, And so I just feel like 107 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: that that group is like we've all talked about, like 108 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:35,239 Speaker 1: almost almost talking about it, kind of like a foregone 109 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: conclusion that Houston ends up back here. Maybe he does, 110 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: but I don't know. Maybe we're assuming too much there. 111 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean that there's always a possibility and 112 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 3: situation like that that some team could come out of 113 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 3: nowhere and offer him more. And I think Houston, if 114 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 3: he's not just if it's just not Baltimore, if he 115 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 3: has a list other than Baltimore, it's a short list, 116 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 3: because I think he has no interest in playing for 117 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 3: a team that he doesn't feel has a chance to 118 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 3: win it all. 119 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,559 Speaker 2: Yes, so that cuts it down. 120 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 3: He had a great experience here, he's so I feel 121 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 3: like he a big part of him would want to 122 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 3: come back. 123 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 2: So I think the chances are good that that might happen. 124 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 3: But these two young players, for sure, Ojabo and old Way, 125 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 3: not only this year, but moving forward. The plan is 126 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 3: clear that they're a big part of the Ravens defense 127 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 3: for the next two, three, four years or longer. And 128 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 3: so I think it's it's time. I mean, it's time 129 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 3: for both of them, turn them loose, let them play. 130 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 3: They're both great guys who want to be great. I 131 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 3: love both of their attitudes. They work hard, it matters 132 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 3: to them. So yeah, Either way, I think if Justin 133 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 3: were to come back, he wouldn't play as many snaps 134 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 3: as he did last year. It would be yeah right, 135 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 3: which hopefully would help him be more effective. 136 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 2: He wouldn't mind that at all. 137 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, So, either way, I think the Ravens Jeah with 138 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 3: O Way and Ojabo, this is their time and they 139 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 3: look like they're ready to rise with the occasion. 140 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: All right, So let's go back to the other roh 141 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: who you started with, Odell Beckham Junior. Okay, not a 142 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: ton of work over the course of the week, but 143 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: enough to make me feel good about where he is. 144 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: I mentioned this in the podcast we did earlier in 145 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: the week. The fact that he's out there going through 146 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: eleven nine to eleven at this point in the process 147 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: is encouraging to me. So I like what I've seen 148 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: from him. Lamar Jackson talked about him this week. He 149 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: likes what he's seeing from him, said, he's really smooth. 150 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: And those two guys, by the way, are going to 151 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: get together after they leave here and spend some time 152 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: together in Florida, so the work is going to continue 153 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: for them. So yeah, I like what I've seen from him. 154 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: I'm really I'm encouraged there. And the other part beyond 155 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: just the physical, which was the biggest question, is like, 156 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: how's this guy look, how's he movement? As he looked fast, 157 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: does he look agile? Does he look like he's favoring anything? 158 00:07:59,680 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 2: Like? 159 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: All the all those boxes were checked, and you feel 160 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: good about him on that front. I also liked, you know, 161 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: he showed a little bit of leadership to me, which, look, 162 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: everybody knows who he is. He's got the biggest profile 163 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: of anybody on this team, even Lamar. It's not often, 164 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: it hasn't been this way for a few years now 165 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: since Lamar has been on the team, but that there's 166 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: somebody who overshadows him in a lot of ways, which 167 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: is kind of crazy from a national standpoint at least. 168 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: But but of course everyone knows who Odell is and 169 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: so he's come in here and I like the attitude 170 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: and the approach that he's taken and with some of 171 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: the younger players. And here's an example in Wednesday's practice. 172 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 1: You know, James Prochet had a couple of had a 173 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: drop and he was fired up about it, and he 174 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: was really mad and he was kind of, you know, 175 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:54,719 Speaker 1: stomping along the sidelines and disappointed, mad at himself, and 176 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: O'Dell went up to him and spent spent some time 177 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: talking to him and gave him some encouragement, and like, 178 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: to me, that just showed that Odell is a guy 179 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: who wants to embrace that leadership role and also wants 180 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: to have a good report with his new teammates. This 181 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: is a young player in Proche that Odell is kind 182 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: of taking under his wing. In that moment, you know, 183 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: he had a tough Proche had a tough moment there 184 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: and Odell kind of put his arm around him and 185 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: looked like he said, I don't know what he said, 186 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: but looked like he said, hey, you know you'll get 187 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: him next time or whatever. 188 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been there, O'Dell. 189 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 3: Obviously, you know, he's been in almost every situation you 190 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 3: could imagine. 191 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 2: And yeah, I do. 192 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 3: Think that at thirty he talked about it that you know, 193 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 3: guys now come up to him and say, hey, I 194 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 3: watched you when I was in high school. 195 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 2: You know I looked up to you. 196 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 3: So yeah, he realizes, even though he's certainly not old, 197 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 3: that he's playing with a lot of guys who are 198 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 3: younger than him and who who look up to him, 199 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 3: and yes for Proche, for Bateman, for Douverne, I think 200 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 3: having Odell who's clearly willing to share his knowledge and 201 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 3: try and keep them up. It's great to have him 202 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 3: as set an example. But you know, obviously the bigger 203 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 3: impact is gonna be what he does on the field. 204 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 3: And as you said, seeing him look this good this 205 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 3: early makes you really optimistic about how he's gonna be 206 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 3: week one. 207 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, so after watching a mini camp, I'm curious in 208 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: your mind, would you say the offense of the defense one. 209 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 2: I'll give it to the defense. 210 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: I would too. They got their hands on a lot 211 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: of balls, no question. I just felt like the secondary 212 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: where there's the first team secondary Marlin Humphrey had to 213 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: pick and practice someonenes say our Darris Washington had to 214 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: pick on Tuesday. Like, they were getting their hands on 215 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: a lot of footballs. Kyle Hamilton was flying around. I 216 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: just felt like they were around the football a lot 217 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: over the course of mini camp practice. 218 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, linemen were getting back down screen right. Yeah, well, 219 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 3: you know, and obviously Rokwan Pee Creek Q out there 220 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 3: buzzing around. I'm not making excuse. I think part of 221 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 3: it is that, Yeah, they're learning more. They're more in 222 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 3: the learning process with the new offensive coordinator, different plays, 223 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 3: personnel groups. They are the ones who have more learning 224 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 3: to do, and so I think that's kind of, you know, 225 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 3: helping the defense have an edge now. But I won't 226 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 3: take away from how the defense is played. I think 227 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 3: it's gonna be great work for them looking ahead the 228 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 3: training camp on both sides. Working with that wide receiver 229 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 3: against that wide receiver cord is only going to help 230 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 3: the corners. Yeah, I think they're working against this defense 231 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 3: is only going to help, you know, the offense as 232 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 3: far as being more sharp. But yes, the defense I 233 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 3: thought definitely had the edge in this mandatory mini camp 234 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 3: and yeah, I think that, you know, that's a good 235 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 3: sign moving forward for that unit. 236 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And also, like the offense, a handful of 237 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: players on this starting offense weren't here over the course 238 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: of the offseason practices up until Mini camp. Rodney Stanley, 239 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: Kevin Zeyler, Odell, Mark Andrews was here for a portion, 240 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: So there's still it's a new system. They're still coming together. 241 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: So you would kind of think that the offense at 242 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: this stage and historically speaking, I will say that early 243 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: in training camp during the offseason practices, the offense is 244 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: often a little bit behind where the defense is in 245 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: my experience, so that's not really a surprise. But I 246 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: think that you know, I did like what I saw 247 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: from the defense, and then you know the other thing 248 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: on offense that is is a little difficult to tell. 249 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: Like we all expect there to be more of a 250 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: much more of a passing attack with a TOI Monka's offense, 251 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: But generally in these practices, a lot of the focus 252 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: during the eleven on eleven work, especially right now when 253 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: there's no physical contact, is going to be on the 254 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: passing attack already. You know, going through just NonStop of 255 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: the running game doesn't get you very far because there's 256 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: not full contact practices anyway right now. But did you 257 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: have any sense of kind of what this run game 258 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: will look like in your mind, knowing that it's much 259 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: different without Greg Roman here? 260 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 3: Uh, to be honest, nough, right, it's a surprise. I 261 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 3: mean it'll be a surprise yet to come what the 262 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 3: running run game is gonna look like, because I found 263 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 3: it interesting, not surprising, but interesting too. In Monk's comments, 264 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 3: since he's gotten a job, he fully says it look 265 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 3: the run game is impressive. When I look at tapes 266 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 3: of the Ravens and the Ravens ran the football, I'm impressed, 267 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 3: So he's not. It doesn't sound like for someone who's 268 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 3: ready to tear up that part of the game just 269 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 3: because he's in New OC. So sure, the passing game, 270 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 3: I think is where you will see his biggest impact. 271 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 3: And also a couple of guys who have looked good 272 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 3: mini camp building what they did OTAs are the two 273 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 3: young tight ends, Isaiah Likely who made certainly plays last 274 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 3: year to let you know that he's got a liability. 275 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 3: And then Charlie Kohler certainly has come on this offseason, 276 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 3: looks fully healthy and he's making plays too, so you know, 277 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 3: time on and now I think people are wondering even 278 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 3: more with an all pro tight end with like Mark 279 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 3: Andrews and now too town and young tight ends, how 280 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 3: are all the tight ends gonna fit? And if we 281 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 3: know Mark Andrews is gonna be a big piece of 282 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 3: the pot, but will he look to utilize you know, 283 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 3: two tight end sets more than he wis? 284 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 2: Well? 285 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: This is this is well done. Cliff I had this 286 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: email pull up. Has his email pulled up at the 287 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: start of the episode. And I didn't even tell you 288 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: about this, but you just naturally let into this question. Okay, 289 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: So as always, you can email us at the lounge 290 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: at Ravens NFL dot net. Will emailed us and the 291 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: questions about formations. Okay, So the Ravens have lived in 292 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: two tight end formations over the last four Jesus, Greg Roman. 293 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: What's your guests on the if it's game one, play one, okay, 294 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: it's week one season opener. Do the Ravens come out 295 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: with a three receiver set or do they stick with 296 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: two tight ends? And do you believe that the three 297 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: receivers would be Flowers, Obj, Agalar or who are those 298 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: three receivers? And who's in the slot? All right, so 299 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: a couple of different questions though, all right, so let's 300 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: just I'll take the question of three receivers. I think 301 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: that it would be He's left out Bateman too. I 302 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: think it's Bateman, Obj and Duverney in the slot. Right now, okay, 303 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: right now, Week one, Week one, play one here will okay, Now, 304 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: Zay Flowers could end up I think cracking that group certainly, 305 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: and all it'll be interesting. Do they use him more 306 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: as a slot? Do they use him outside because he 307 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: has the ability to play both. But I think right now, 308 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: if it was starting the season to be obj Rashad 309 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: Bateman and Devin Duverney, that would be my Do you 310 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: agree with that? 311 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 2: Yes? I do? 312 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So now let's go to the tight 313 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: end question. As you were just talking about it. What 314 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: do you think, like would it be a three receiver 315 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: set or would it be a two tight end set there? 316 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: And how do the Ravens use these tight ends in 317 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: this new offense? 318 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I would lean towards the three wide 319 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 3: receiver set, you know, week one, player one and that 320 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 3: that you would see more of that than the two 321 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 3: tight end set week one against who they playing, Houston. Yes, 322 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 3: but I do think that a lot of it's going 323 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 3: to depend on matchups. Where do they think they have 324 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 3: the biggest advantage. If they're playing a team that you 325 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 3: know is playing soft covers, and you know they feel 326 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 3: like you know, wide receivers they're going to you know, 327 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 3: have not as much of an advantage with a wide 328 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 3: receivers and two tight ends might give them more advantage. 329 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 3: They have linebackers who can't cover, yep, then yeah, I 330 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 3: mean Andrews is a tough cover period for anybody, then 331 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 3: you put likely out there next to them. Most a 332 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 3: lot of teams don't have two guys who can cover big, 333 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 3: agile targets like that. 334 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 2: So I just think matchups. 335 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 3: It's kind of like, you know, it's matchups, kind of 336 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 3: like in basketball, where do you have the biggest advantage. 337 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 3: One week it'll be wide receivers, next week will be 338 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 3: tight ends. But I think that they have the option 339 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 3: now even more so than maybe they thought back in 340 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 3: January that if they want to use multiple tight end 341 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 3: sets next year or this season coming up, that they'll 342 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 3: be able to do that. 343 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I agree with you, And we talked about 344 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: this in the podcast earlier this week, like Charlie Color 345 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: looked good at practice and so like if you feel 346 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: to your point like you've got three really good tight ends, 347 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: then you're gonna find a way to get them on 348 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: the field. And Todd Munkins talked about that this week, 349 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: like he wants to find ways to get his best 350 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: players on the field. So if that's three tight ends, 351 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: if that's two tight ends, if that's three receivers, he's 352 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: going to be creative in how all that works and 353 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: how of what plays out. And then the other factor 354 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 1: is receiver health. Rasha Bateman did practice during Mini camp, 355 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: had a quarter zone shot in his foot as he's 356 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,719 Speaker 1: continuing to recover from the Liz Frank. I'm not sounding 357 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: the alarm there. He was out there watching practices and 358 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: standing on the sideline, So you know, I'm not like 359 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: sounding the alarm that he's not practicing in Mini camp 360 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: in June coming back from a liszt Frank injury. But 361 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: you know, I think a lot of it comes out 362 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,479 Speaker 1: to health and where those guys are and what that 363 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: receiving cord looks like. If they're feeling like they need 364 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: to put more tight ends out there, then they will. 365 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: So let's take a quick break and when we come back, 366 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: we'll give you our final thoughts on Mini camp and 367 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: look ahead to the upcoming training camp schedule. You're listening 368 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: to the Lounge podcast and we want our listeners to 369 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: know that Draft Kings sports Book is the official sports 370 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 1: betting partner of the Baltimore Raves and it has a 371 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: limited time offer that you don't want to miss. Download 372 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: the Draft Kings Sportsbook gap now. 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So 381 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: we are sitting here in the seat Geek Studio Cliff 382 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: breaking down everything that we've seen at mini camp and 383 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: over the course of the off season program. So just 384 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: to give a little bit of a preview here, We've 385 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 1: got an episode coming out next week with Roquan Smith, 386 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: and we had a chance to talk with Roquan, and 387 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: I think listeners and viewers that's going to be a 388 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: video that you can watch on YouTube as well are 389 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: going to be really excited to hear from Roquan. And man, 390 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: like it's a little preview, I'm not going to reveal 391 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: too much, but I just like I get the sense 392 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: in hearing from him that he has big expectations for 393 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: this year and based on what I watch on the field, 394 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: I mean he is not stop like when the defense 395 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: runs on the field, he's the first guy leading the 396 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: defense on the field like. He is a leader in 397 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: every sense of the word. And we saw that this week. 398 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: The other piece of news on Roquan, Mike McDonald shared 399 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: this week that the plan is for him to wear 400 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: the green Dot Chuck Clark or the Green Dot for 401 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 1: the past few years, typically a linebacker wears it. Roquan's 402 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 1: here now he's the natural fit. Not a big surprise 403 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: that he's going to be the guy. He never comes 404 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: off the field, but Mike confirmed that Roquan's going to 405 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: be the guy. 406 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 2: Right, natural fit. 407 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 3: And yeah, Roquan again, as you mentioned, I think fans 408 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 3: are going to really want to listen to the podcast 409 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 3: hear what he has to say. He is clearly highly 410 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 3: motivated for this season in every way. That's really all 411 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say to me. It made me excited listening 412 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 3: to him, and you could just feel sitting across from 413 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 3: him the vibe and that's that's the vibe that he 414 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 3: has in the locker room that yes, he is a 415 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 3: spec player who was really respected before he got here. 416 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 3: But now that guys had a chance to play with him, 417 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 3: I think that he's really going to put his stamp 418 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 3: as the leader of his defense starting next season. 419 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Patrick Queen, I thought had a really strong 420 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: Mini camp as well. And one of the practices, I mean, 421 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: he flies, He flies around the football, and like there's 422 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: a couple of times where he would have let somebody up, 423 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 1: Like on one play it was in the flat and 424 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: running back coming out on the little you know, pass 425 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: out of the backfield and that knew would have gotten 426 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: lit up by Patrick Queen. And there was a couple 427 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,719 Speaker 1: of moments like that. I thought he looked pretty good 428 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: in pass coverage too. You know, there was a few 429 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 1: passes in his direction. I thought he hed up well 430 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 1: in pass coverage. So yeah, he was flying around the football. 431 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: I'd liked what I saw from p Q. The other 432 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: guy I want to get your take on is Kyle Hamilton. 433 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 1: You know, he had to play at at one point 434 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: in practice where he you know, came down hard on 435 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: Isaiah Likely and that was a pretty competitive portion of 436 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: practice and you know, he pulled again. He pulled up. 437 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: It's not like hed laid him out or anything, but 438 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: you know he I liked the instincts. I liked the speed. 439 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: I liked that he was in the right place, you know, 440 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: for a big hit, you know, if it was an 441 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: actual game. What were your impressions of Kyle playing that 442 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 1: safety role. 443 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that Kyles. 444 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 3: It's common to see guys take a jump rookie year 445 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 3: the second year, and I think that we're gonna see 446 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 3: that from Kyle Hamilton, even though he was coming on strong, 447 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 3: I thought at the end of last year and played 448 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 3: his best football late in the season. Now we've saw 449 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 3: him take a lot of reps during mandatory mini camp, 450 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 3: and OTA's at deeper safety, away from the line of scrimmage, 451 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 3: where he can really use his athleticism and ability to 452 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 3: cover a lot of ground. And I think he and 453 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 3: Marcus Williams, another guy who looks really good, has looked 454 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 3: really good at mini camp. That combo that's gotta be 455 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 3: one of the most athletic safety pairings in the NFL, 456 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 3: and I think that Mike McDonald is going to allow 457 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 3: those guys to use that ability to really make it. 458 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 3: You know, quarterbacks got to think twice. Now, if you 459 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 3: want to take a deep shot down the middle of 460 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 3: the field against the Ravens. You've got Marcus Williams back there, 461 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 3: You've got Kyle Hamilton, don't know where he's going to 462 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 3: line up and can do so many things, so many places. 463 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 464 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 3: I mean you asked specifically about Kyle Hamilton, and he 465 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 3: looks very good. But I think that pairing together is 466 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 3: going to do a lot of things that really they 467 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 3: weren't in position to do last year. Marcus Williams missed 468 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 3: sometimes with an injury, Kyle Hamilton played a lot of 469 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 3: different positions, so they really weren't in the classic combo 470 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 3: safety role. But I think you'll see more of that 471 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 3: this year, and I think that's going to be good 472 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 3: for the defense. 473 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. And I think a question that we've all had 474 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: is who's going to end up playing that nickel role? 475 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: I think is still open. I don't think that there's 476 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: clarity there. But a guy who maybe we've been leaving 477 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: out of the conversation who he shouldn't is our Darius Washington. 478 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: He had a pick and practice one of the days 479 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 1: he was active. He was around the ball. This is 480 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: a guy who's made the team as an undrafted player. 481 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: He's had some injuries, but still a talented player. I 482 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: think we maybe are overlooking him a little bit in 483 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 1: that mix. I guess we've been talking about it. It's like, 484 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: Okay Pepe, Okay, Marlin could slide in there, Jalen Armor 485 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: Davis could be the third corner, Brandon Stevens, you know, 486 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: trayvon Mullen, like all those are guys that we've mentioned. 487 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: But I think that our Darius Washington is somebody to 488 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: keep an eye on there. 489 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 490 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 3: Well, unfortunately, you know, Pepe and Jalen Armor Davis have 491 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 3: missed time you know, on the field during this offseason, 492 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 3: particularly Pepe, so that has opened up more reps for 493 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 3: other guys. 494 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 2: And Ardaris is. 495 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 3: One of those players who has taken that advantage of 496 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 3: that opportunity. He's active, feisty, and I mean John Harbaugh 497 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 3: has mentioned that that's one of the areas that so 498 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 3: called third corner, nickel corner. It's up for grabs, and 499 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 3: so no decisions have been made, I don't think based 500 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 3: on what we've seen in a three day mandatory mini camp. 501 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 3: But yeah, Washington is certainly someone who has flashed helped himself, 502 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 3: and I think, yes, he's clearly in the competition. 503 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So before we wrap cliff Any final 504 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: thoughts here on guys that really stood out to you 505 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: that we need to keep an eye on, that impressed 506 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: you over the course of the offseason program. You know, 507 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 1: I like where this team is. Like I'll say this, 508 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 1: I'll give you some time to think about this. 509 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 2: Okay, all right. 510 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 1: I like roster wise, where this team is. I think 511 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: the offensive line is going to be really good. I 512 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: think the left guard battle is still going to be 513 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: that's going to last up until training camp. But the 514 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: rookie solids in the mix now I think firmly there. 515 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: John Simpson is certainly still in the mix. Ben Cleveland 516 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: is still there as a potential option. You know. I 517 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: think McCarey likely ends up as one of a swing 518 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: tackle and basically a jack of all trades backup who 519 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: could fill in at any position. But I like the 520 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: offensive line. I like the offensive line. I like the 521 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 1: tight end group. I feel like it's really talented. We 522 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 1: got different types of guys there, and I thought they 523 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: all really came on. The second year players likely and Kohler, 524 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: I thought they came on. And of course Mark Andrews 525 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 1: is a beast, so you're set there. And the receiving corps. 526 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 1: You know, John Harbaugh talked to Mini Camp. He talked 527 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: about how in his house he's got a pool room 528 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: and he's got some pictures on the wall. You know, 529 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: NFL head coaches are just like us, right They've got 530 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: they got their room where they've got their sports memorabilia, 531 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: and he's got some pictures on the wall. And one 532 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: of the pictures on the wall is Tory Smith, Steve 533 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 1: Smith and Jacobe Jones from that team in twenty fourteen, 534 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 1: and pretty good receiving corps, those three guys. And he 535 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: feels like this receiving corps as it stands right now, 536 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: could rival that one could who knows, maybe it's better, 537 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 1: but he feels like this is maybe the best they've 538 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 1: had since then. And I think on paper that looks 539 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: like it's the case, and so I feel good about that, 540 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 1: you know. And then the defense, we spend a good 541 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: amount of time talking about the defense. I still, you know, 542 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 1: I think the secondary is still an option if the 543 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: Raves end up adding somebody there, and it wouldn't surprise me, 544 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: like they've had some injuries there, so if they end 545 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 1: up wanting to sign somebody to give them some depth, 546 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: in the secondary, Like I wouldn't rule out that possibility, 547 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: so you know, but I just feel good about where 548 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 1: this roster is. I just think that, like top to bottom, 549 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: I don't see glaring holes. I think the weaknesses are 550 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 1: more depth weaknesses than top end weaknesses. And I think 551 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: that the Ravens should feel pretty confident about where this 552 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: roster is going into training camp. So you've had time now, 553 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 1: all right, I gave you time. I gave you time 554 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 1: to think about any other final guys who've stood out 555 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: to you. 556 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 557 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 3: I mean one area we haven't talked about because it's 558 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 3: not as sexy that we should is the defensive line. 559 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 3: Michael Pierce's here beginning of all season looks great, Justin 560 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 3: Madoweek looks great, Travis Jones, Broderick Washington, you know, Brent Rban. 561 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 3: They have a deep defensive line. Now, obviously, lost of 562 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 3: Kalais Campbell is something that's gonna have to be made 563 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 3: up for. But this is a big year for all 564 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 3: those guys that I've mentioned, And you know, we talk 565 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 3: about a lot of things, but the Ravens won their stamps. 566 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 3: Has always been stopping the run, and I think this 567 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 3: is the time where the defensive line. These young guys 568 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 3: have a chance to blossom and set the tone. Is 569 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 3: really a newer, younger defensive line that it's going to 570 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 3: establish itself as one a stop the run and hopefully 571 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 3: add a little pass rush punch as well. 572 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 2: But that's the key. 573 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 3: I mean, if the Ravens can keep teams in second 574 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 3: and long, third and long, then a lot of these 575 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 3: other things we're talking about, the pass rush, the secondary, 576 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 3: that makes their job so much easier. You're going again, 577 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 3: you know, guys like you know Nick jub twice a year. 578 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 3: You know, if you can't stop the run, then to me, 579 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 3: that compromises the rest of the defense. So great signed 580 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 3: that Michael Pierce looks good, Madampka looks tremendous physically, just 581 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 3: you know, cut Travis Jones. We saw flash of what 582 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 3: he could do before injury con sat him back. Broderick Washington, 583 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 3: Brent Urban, the veteran. Yeah, they they have an interesting 584 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,479 Speaker 3: front that's kind of got a new look and I 585 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 3: have high hopes for that and if that, if that 586 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 3: unit comes together, that's just gonna make the whole defense tougher. 587 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. So I think it's a good point. I 588 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: like this d line. I think it's a good group, 589 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: really good group, even without Kalays Campbell. And now that's 590 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: an opportunity for some of these young guys to step up. 591 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 2: It's their time. And then of course you got ro 592 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 2: Kwan and Patrick Queen. 593 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 3: If those guys, my goodness, and if you if they 594 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 3: have freedom to road, you keep the offensive line and 595 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 3: the tight ends away from those guys. 596 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 2: Yep, they wreck have. 597 00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: It, Yep totally. So I mentioned the rokwand Smith conversation 598 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: we have with him. Stay tuned for that early next week. 599 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: That's gonna be coming out and that'll be again a 600 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: video and an audio podcast, So I do not want 601 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: to miss that one. 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