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Speaker 1: talked about Caleb Williams. You know we're gonna talk a

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Speaker 1: one of the most fascinating stories out there because number one,

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Speaker 1: the guy has totally flipped the script. And if you

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Speaker 1: I mentioned before, but the guy has gone from having

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Speaker 1: to take a pay cut or be fired in college too.

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Speaker 1: Now it just shows you what one year can do

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Speaker 1: thought of Jim Harball as an NFL style coach, like

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Speaker 1: I've always to me when you look at when it

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Speaker 1: comes down to XS and o's in the style that

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Speaker 1: he plays is just like the NFL. That the style

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Speaker 1: And you know, again it's not like Canton coached in college,

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Speaker 1: So if there is legitimacy to this because it's coming

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Speaker 1: I agree with you Man and Blaine. When you think

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Speaker 1: losing a lot of talent, Yes, especially on the D line,

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Speaker 1: You gotta come with some money because the NFL teams

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Speaker 1: But we'll see. You never know, it was crazy in

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Speaker 1: go nuts if the first year, it's way way too

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Speaker 1: great or not so great. Another huge question everybody's asking

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Speaker 1: ahead of the National Championship Game is what does Georgia

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Speaker 1: have to do differently this time around to be able

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Speaker 1: to avoid the outcome they suffered the first time in

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Speaker 1: which Alabama beat them forty one twenty four and really

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Speaker 1: kind of had their way with them. To me, you

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Speaker 1: guys know, I'm gonna beat an old drum. I'm not going,

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Speaker 1: you know, far from the one that brought me to say.

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Speaker 1: It's George's pass rush, you know. And I'm not talking

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Speaker 1: about bringing six guys. I'm not talking about you know,

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Speaker 1: doing exotic things on a regular basis. It's can you

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Speaker 1: bracket or double Jamison Williams keep everything underneath and be

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Speaker 1: able to affect Bryce young enough to not allow the

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Speaker 1: plays you have allowed last time, whether it's in the

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Speaker 1: intermediate game, whether it was him extending the play because

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Speaker 1: they didn't get him on the ground and pitching it

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Speaker 1: to a running back or running for a first down

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Speaker 1: because if they are able to keep him or corral

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Speaker 1: him or throw him off from a timing standpoint with

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Speaker 1: a four man rush and hold coverage in the back

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Speaker 1: end with no Metchi. That's a big deal because Menchie

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Speaker 1: evens you out from Jamo. Cincinnati did the same thing.

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Speaker 1: They said, all right, that's why Jamis swims. You can

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Speaker 1: catch underneath passes. But we're gonna bracket you. You're not

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Speaker 1: gonna hit us with the seventy yard And I'll say

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Speaker 1: it again, You're not going nine, ten, eleven, twelve plays

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Speaker 1: consistently on this Georgia defense. I've set it till I'm

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Speaker 1: blue in the face or red in the face, or

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Speaker 1: I can't even feel my face. Shout out to the weekend.

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Speaker 1: But when you look at the way that not having

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Speaker 1: Metchi not only affects the secondary, it affects the defensive

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Speaker 1: line because now you're not as even down in the

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Speaker 1: back end. Now you can funnel not only Bryce Young,

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Speaker 1: but the ball where you want to go. That's the

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Speaker 1: biggest thing to me. If they can do that, they

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Speaker 1: throw them off rhythm, they get them behind the chains.

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Speaker 1: Then you have to start taking chances. The screen's not

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Speaker 1: there because you're not bringing everybody in the front door.

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Speaker 1: To me, that's the biggest thing. Cone What do you think? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree, it's Look, I'm still scratching my head over

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Speaker 1: that SEC Championship. It's not like we're talking about an

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Speaker 1: Alabama team here who was able to protect Bryce Young

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Speaker 1: all season, and Georgia was just one of the teams

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Speaker 1: who couldn't get to them. Every team Alabama played was

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Speaker 1: able to get to Bryce Young, including Cincinnati, and the

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Speaker 1: only one who wasn't able to get to them consistently

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Speaker 1: is the greatest defense we've ever seen. I'm still catching

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Speaker 1: my head over that. I think many Georgia fans were

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Speaker 1: scratching their head over that. Clearly there was a commitment

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Speaker 1: made to protect Bryce Young. It was taken seriously. Their

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Speaker 1: backs were against the wall, and they executed perfectly. Can

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Speaker 1: they execute perfectly twice in a row? Well, let's see.

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Speaker 1: You know, that remains to be seen. But yes, they

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Speaker 1: need to be able to get to Bryce Young. But

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Speaker 1: even if not, I'll say the same key to victory

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Speaker 1: that I said about what Cincinnati needed to do, and

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Speaker 1: you hinted at it, they need to keep Jamison Williams

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Speaker 1: from blowing the top off of the defense. And with

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Speaker 1: Mecchi being down, that is a huge That is a

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Speaker 1: huge loss or a game for Georgia. For Georgia's defense

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Speaker 1: to be able to somehow at least keep Jamison william

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Speaker 1: from blowing the top off the defense, because, like you said,

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Speaker 1: that's really the only way they lose. They're not going

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Speaker 1: to give up multiple ten plus play drives in a game,

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Speaker 1: not even to Alabama. Okay, so that's on the defensive

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Speaker 1: side of the ball for Georgia, and then on the

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Speaker 1: offensive side of the football. They need to not abandon

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Speaker 1: the run game so soon. You have to trust that

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Speaker 1: your defense is going to do a better job this

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Speaker 1: go round. And remember they were moving the football on

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Speaker 1: the ground against Alabama in that verse drive first two

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Speaker 1: drives of the SEC Championship. Don't get in a situation

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Speaker 1: where you feel like you need Stetson Bennett to start

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Speaker 1: slinging the ball around the yard to bring you back

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Speaker 1: and to win the national Championship. Don't abandon that lethal

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Speaker 1: run game too soon, because if you stay with it

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Speaker 1: and you're able to have even a modicum of success,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're gonna find that Stetson Benett's

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Speaker 1: going to be able to find Bowers and some of

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Speaker 1: these other guys for big gains, just the way that

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Speaker 1: they were able to do early against Michigan. Well without

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Speaker 1: a doubt. I couldn't agree with you more. Cone Blade.

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Speaker 1: What's one big thing in this game Georgia must do

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Speaker 1: to be able to meet out Well, besides of what

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Speaker 1: y'all said, you gotta be better on third down. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you can't be three and twelve on third down versus Alabama.

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Speaker 1: You just can't, especially with the Bryce Young in the pocket.

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Speaker 1: I mean Bryce three for four to twenty one and

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Speaker 1: three touchdowns. I mean against the greatest defense it's ever assembled.

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Speaker 1: You know, at the end of the day, Obama with

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Speaker 1: the lightest or the brightest or are gonna play the best.

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Speaker 1: They can't. That's always how it is. But you got

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Speaker 1: to keep brock Bowers involved. You can't abandon the run early.

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Speaker 1: They they're up, tend to nothing and just try to

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Speaker 1: throw their way out of it with an Obama scored,

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Speaker 1: but they busted a coverage and Bama scored. And if

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Speaker 1: you're Georgia, you gotta win the time of possession again.

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Speaker 1: You just have to. You have to be able because

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Speaker 1: that's the end of day. Stetson's a rhythm guy, right,

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Speaker 1: He's a rhythm guy. You have to be able. You

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Speaker 1: have to be able to run the ball at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day to set up those big play

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Speaker 1: actual passes down the field and hit Brock Bowers. All Right,

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Speaker 1: Bowers is your best player on offense other than Cook

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Speaker 1: at running back. I think you just can't lean on

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Speaker 1: Sets and Bennett to win you this game now, end

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Speaker 1: the day. I will say this about Cincinnati, Sauce Gardner

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Speaker 1: basically almost followed Jamo around Jamison Williams that entire game,

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Speaker 1: all right, and Georgie, don't I mean, they did have

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Speaker 1: more what do you say? I said, they have more

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Speaker 1: brackets on them than an orthodonnas office. Yeahs Gardner. So

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Speaker 1: if I'm Georgia, I'm immediately taken away Jamis and you

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Speaker 1: have to beat me with somebody else. You're really not

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Speaker 1: that scared of the run. I don't think George is

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Speaker 1: gonna get there with four. But if you can mix

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Speaker 1: some things up up front, some blitzes, some zone blitzes.

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Speaker 1: I just think you have to find a way to

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Speaker 1: confuse Bryce Young, which is gonna be hard to do,

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Speaker 1: but you have to do something. Yeah, and again, I

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Speaker 1: think Alabama, including brycehon had the game of their life.

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Speaker 1: It obviously one of the Heisman But we appreciate you guys,

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