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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. Welcome man, everybody.

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Speaker 1: in the Fox Sports Radio LA Studios, Jason Martin and Nashville. Jason,

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Speaker 1: this is one of the funnest nights of the year

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, for you and I to be on air.

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Speaker 1: College football playoff conversation is coming down to the wire.

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Speaker 1: Washington won the Pac twelve last night, Texas won the

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Speaker 1: Big twelve. This afternoon, Alabama upsets Georgia in Atlanta, and

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Speaker 1: now we got two more coming down to the wire

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Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. As the SEGA just told you.

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Speaker 1: Florida State up ten to six over the Louisville Cardinals

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Speaker 1: and Michigan up twenty to nothing on the Iowa Hawk. Guys,

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Speaker 1: Jason mart what's going on, man? How you doing?

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Speaker 2: I'm under the weather, but I'm here and it means

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Speaker 2: I've gotten to watch out of football today, obviously, and

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Speaker 2: we got a great one on Friday night. We got

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Speaker 2: one great one this afternoon. These two tonight. When you

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Speaker 2: said this is a fun job, it is. The conversation

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Speaker 2: will be fun. These two games have not been entertaining.

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Speaker 2: These two games have been tough watches, even though the

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Speaker 2: Florida State Louisville game is somewhat in doubt and a

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Speaker 2: big special teams play just made by Louisville with a

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Speaker 2: block punt, so that's gotten more interesting. But I do

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Speaker 2: think that there is potentially going to be a lot

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Speaker 2: of discussion to be had. There's also the potential that

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Speaker 2: there's not going to be much discussion to be had.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what, Jason, you just gave us

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Speaker 1: a quick update. Louisville was in the red zone, a

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Speaker 1: ball thrown into the back corners. I need to see

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Speaker 1: a replay to see what happened. It looked as though

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Speaker 1: it Oh my goodness, I don't even.

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Speaker 2: Your way ahead of me. I haven't even seen that

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Speaker 2: play yet. It's happening in front of me right now.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I don't even know what to make of this play.

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Speaker 1: Ball appears to be completed to the Louisville tight end

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Speaker 1: hits the ground with his butt and then as the

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Speaker 1: as everything is going up, it's stripped out. So Desager

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Speaker 1: is giving me the no catch producer. Pat is giving

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Speaker 1: me the no catch producer. Brandon, who is apparently working

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Speaker 1: for Pat. I don't even know what he's doing here tonight.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he apparently does nothing brand it's giving me

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Speaker 1: no catch. It is officially no catch producer. Brandon thankfully

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Speaker 1: is doing something. Pat was a little less decisive on

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Speaker 1: that one. But anyway, thank you guys for your help.

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Speaker 1: We have three referees here in the in the building

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Speaker 1: with me tonight.

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Speaker 2: You not survive the ground.

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Speaker 1: He did not survive the ground, and so Louisville is

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Speaker 1: in the red zone. Ten to six is the score

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Speaker 1: in that one. And Jason, I mean, let's just get

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Speaker 1: into it because this is the topic in the conversation

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Speaker 1: of the day. You know, you mentioned the great one

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Speaker 1: last night, Washington beating Oregon that I think we all

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Speaker 1: agree clinches a playoff spot for Washington as the PAC

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Speaker 1: twelve champion. Undefeated, you know, beat Oregon twice. Oregon was

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Speaker 1: ranked in the top ten. Also, Michigan wild certainly hasn't

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Speaker 1: been pretty as Michigan looks like they just forced to fumble. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Michigan is up twenty nothing. It feels very good that

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Speaker 1: they will make the college football playoff. Up twenty nothing.

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Speaker 1: And now they have the ball with ten fifty seven left,

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Speaker 1: and we just had an interception in the red.

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Speaker 2: Zone for Liulville.

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Speaker 1: This is a war whatever the opposite of a war

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Speaker 1: of attrition is in terms of teams basically trying to

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Speaker 2: Team the game.

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Speaker 1: So Louisville is in the red zone d not really

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Speaker 1: driving because they blocked a punt. They trail ten to six,

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Speaker 1: ten minutes left in the fourth quarter. The quarterback Jack Plumber,

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Speaker 1: who's just not been very good tonight. But maybe le's

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Speaker 1: by the way, maybe it's the Florida State defense.

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Speaker 2: Like they are really good. Yeah, they're definitely college football

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Speaker 2: playoff worthy on that side of the football.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so so yeah, So Florida State has intercepted the

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Speaker 1: in that one. The story, Jason, it feels to me,

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Speaker 1: me if you feel differently. But Washington has won, it

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Speaker 1: Texas wins today as a one loss Big twelve champion.

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Speaker 1: Now the caveat why I think most people feel pretty

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Speaker 1: confident that they'll be in is, of course, because they

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Speaker 1: the strong argument that Texas be in after their win today.

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Speaker 1: So it feels like we are going to come down

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Speaker 1: to an Alabama team that is a one loss SEC

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Speaker 1: being Texas beating Alabama in Tuscaloosa. But Alabama a one

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Speaker 1: now is nine minutes away from an ACC championship as

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Speaker 1: an undefeated team. Jason, this is the conversation of the night.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to open up the phone lines momentarily, but

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Speaker 1: what are your thoughts as we watch Florida State try

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Speaker 1: Alabama a one loss SEC champ. That is frankly clearly

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Speaker 1: the superior team. But as we've talked about for weeks now, Jason,

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Speaker 1: the committee weighs a bunch of stuff. They have said

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Speaker 1: publicly we're supposed to pick the best four, but conference champion.

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Speaker 1: From the Florida State perspective, they'd be undefeated. Can't leave

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Speaker 1: out Texas with the head to head win over Bama.

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Speaker 1: Feels like it would be if Florida State holds on

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Speaker 1: undefeated Floria State versus one lost Bama. I've talked long enough,

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Speaker 1: Jason Martin. The Flora is yours.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think you're right. I think head

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Speaker 2: to head has to matter. If it doesn't, then why

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Speaker 2: in the world would you ever play that game early

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Speaker 2: in the season, Especially if you're going to argue that

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Speaker 2: or it shouldn't have meant then what it would now.

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Speaker 2: That can't be the argument. So Texas winning that game,

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Speaker 2: especially going on the road and beating Alabama. I think

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Speaker 2: they're in and they should be in. And over the

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Speaker 2: last two or three weeks, they've looked like one of

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Speaker 2: the best teams in the country without question, just out

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Speaker 2: of absolutely annihilating their last two opponents, just thunderously showing

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Speaker 2: to say about Florida State, precedent is not a great argument,

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Speaker 2: because precedent is only there until it's broken. Eventually, it

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Speaker 2: changes that, until new information changes that. There has never

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Speaker 2: been a Power five undefeated team left out of the

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Speaker 2: College Football Playoff. But we have never seen a set

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Speaker 2: of circumstances like we have this year. And unfortunately for

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Speaker 2: Florida State, when I look at that, there is just

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Speaker 2: no universe in which you can make me. You can't

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Speaker 2: State is one of the four best teams in the country.

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Speaker 2: In fact, I don't think they're one of the five

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Speaker 2: one of the six teams. Six best teams in a country.

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Speaker 2: But I'll give them that spot. But I think that

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Speaker 2: the argument should the argument more likely should involve a

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Speaker 2: one lost Georgia than this Florida State team. I understand

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Speaker 2: how great they are defensively. I understand we're seeing a

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Speaker 2: is a really difficult spot to put him in. It's

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Speaker 2: unfortunate for Florida State, but it just doesn't look like

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Speaker 2: break for them properly really quick.

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Speaker 1: You said one loss Georgia versus Florida State. Is that

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Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying I'm saying that I would, personally,

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Speaker 2: I believe Georgia is a better football team than Florida

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Speaker 2: State is. I'm not saying that's an argument that's going

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Speaker 2: four best teams are the fore most deserving right now.

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Speaker 2: If you take all of that in totality and everything

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Speaker 2: Texas in some order, that should be the four. I

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Speaker 2: don't think this Florida State team measures up without Jordan Travis.

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Speaker 2: I mean it just it's unfortunate because you have to

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Speaker 2: play the what if game. But there's no universe in

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Speaker 1: So I agree. And by the way, one thing I

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Speaker 1: phone lines and I want everyone to chime in. This

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Speaker 1: is one of the great knights college football. If you

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Speaker 1: want to show, what are your thoughts Bama versus Florida State.

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Speaker 1: Florida State up ten to six in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: If Florida State holds on, they would be a thirteen

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Speaker 1: to zero ACC champion. Should they get in? Should Alabama

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Speaker 1: at who just beat George on a neutral field? Should

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Speaker 1: they get in? Call in one eight seven, seven ninety

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Speaker 1: But again, if you want to call in one eight

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on Florida State versus Bama. I think there's

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Speaker 1: two things that are are complicating factors here, Jason. One

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Speaker 1: the committee, ultimately, and I remember talking about this even

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Speaker 1: out whatever. The committee's job is to the number one

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Speaker 1: baseline job that they have is to pick the four

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Speaker 1: best teams. And that is public, that is knowledge, that

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Speaker 1: is you know, Book Horgan, the playoff chair, said that

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Speaker 1: you know has said that throughout the process. Kirby Smart

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Speaker 1: and he think Kirby Smart thinks his team should get

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Speaker 1: in somehow. I don't see that pathway for them, but

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Speaker 1: I just bring it up because that is part of it.

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Speaker 1: And then I think the other part that makes this

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Speaker 1: could go back to last year Alabama didn't get in.

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Speaker 1: You could sit there and say, well, you know, and

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Speaker 1: Nick Saban tried to make the argument that hey, if

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Speaker 1: we were on a neutral field, we would be favored,

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Speaker 1: and so it means it. But it's like you looked

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Speaker 1: at the resume, it didn't really check out if you

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Speaker 1: the public, Alabama didn't win the SEC West, they didn't

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Speaker 1: we do one quick question. You mentioned the athletic projecting

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Speaker 1: it looks as though Florida State is going to have

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Speaker 1: the ball. I think deep in Louisville territory.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, it's pretty close to the end zone.

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Speaker 2: To your part, yes, I think that you keep them

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Speaker 2: behind Texas because they didn't have a signature win that

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Speaker 2: you would have any reason to put them above Texas.

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Speaker 2: Until today, I think this is the top three team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's true, but I mean you look what Texas

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Speaker 2: was doing down a stretch. I mean they struggled a bit,

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Speaker 2: but I mean look at Alabama. It was the you know,

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Speaker 2: the grave digger play on fourth and thirty one, or

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Speaker 2: they lose to Auburn last week and we don't even

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Speaker 2: have this discussion. There were a couple of narrow escapes

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Speaker 2: actually for Alabama during this run. We kind of saw

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Speaker 2: that across the board. But I think it's more to

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Speaker 2: me the reason they had stayed behind Texas is because

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Speaker 2: Texas had to head to head and Alabama didn't have

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Speaker 2: the Georgia win. The Georgia win carries a lot of

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Speaker 2: weight because it's arguably the biggest winning college football in

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Speaker 2: the last three years. Because it's been so long since

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Speaker 2: that football team we've seen that football team beaten, and

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Speaker 2: the last time we saw him beat was against the

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Speaker 2: same Alabama team in the SEC championship game. So I

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Speaker 2: think that has to factor in a lot. I think

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Speaker 2: it's if Alabama gets in, it's just flat out going

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Speaker 2: to be. It's not going to be because they won

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Speaker 2: the SEC. The rationale, I would think is going to

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Speaker 2: be that the win against Georgia is such a good

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Speaker 2: win that you you couldn't help but put them in

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Speaker 2: in that moment, considering the only other team that they

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Speaker 2: lost to was a team that was under consideration for

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Speaker 2: the playoff as well. It's imperfect. Again, somebody's getting screwed here,

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Speaker 2: and they're gonna have the perfect reason to say, man,

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Speaker 2: we're not gonna have to worry about this next year

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Speaker 2: because we have a twelve team playoff. But I think

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Speaker 2: it is more that they hadn't There wasn't a win

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Speaker 2: where it was just, oh well, we've got to put

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Speaker 2: them ahead of Texas now, and now you potentially have

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Speaker 2: that with the win over Georgia.

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Speaker 1: Tell you what we are going to get to your

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Speaker 1: calls if you want to chime in one eight seven

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Speaker 1: seven ninety nine on Fox one eight seven seven nine

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Speaker 1: six six three six ' nine. We'll take your calls

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Speaker 1: on the other side. But before we do, want to

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Speaker 1: toss it over the news desk, Steve de Seger. The

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Speaker 1: floor is yours, my friend.

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Speaker 5: Oh so much college football? To talk about a couple

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Speaker 5: of sports items that I've ran across in the couple

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Speaker 5: last couple hours. One just from sports in General. There

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Speaker 5: was a long time Chicago writer. It said, with the

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Speaker 5: Bulls victory tonight, it's the first time iago sports team

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Speaker 5: has won back to back game since the Cubs swept

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Speaker 5: a series back in September. Wow, so you think you

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Speaker 5: have it bed. Meanwhile, this from Associated Press for those

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Speaker 5: not keeping score at home. Number of touchdowns this college

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Speaker 5: football season, Blake Korum for Michigan twenty four tds now

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Speaker 5: uh oh Iowa was entire team twenty two.

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Speaker 6: I got it.

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Speaker 2: I gotta mention this. I was actually gonna lead off

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Speaker 2: with it because I I'm sick. I might even be

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Speaker 2: running a fever right now. And I died laughing. At

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Speaker 2: this during Fox's pregame. I just want to give them

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Speaker 2: credit and give him a standing O for this. They

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Speaker 2: did a video package on Iowa's punter and talked about

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Speaker 2: giving him a game ball multiple times this year, and

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Speaker 2: they interviewed him. It was a sit down like they

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Speaker 2: were talking to Micah Parsons before a Cowboys forty nine

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Speaker 2: ers game of the week. I was just like the

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Speaker 2: fact that this is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen,

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Speaker 2: because there is no more valuable contributor to an Iowa

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Speaker 2: team than a punter that can put the ball down

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Speaker 2: on the opposing ten yard line.

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Speaker 1: You know what I was thinking really quick, guys. You

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Speaker 1: know how like sometimes you have like a group of

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Speaker 1: five small school coach that just decides he wants to

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Speaker 1: go somewhere because he's like, I want to test myself.

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Speaker 1: I want a chance to really compete for a national championship.

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Speaker 1: Even I got like Brian Kelly, he went to LSU because,

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Speaker 1: like the argument is, he has a better shot to

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Speaker 1: win there.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 1: If you're the Iowa defensive coordinator, don't you just get

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Speaker 1: tired of being awesome every single week in your offense

515
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Speaker 1: not bailing you out? Like like USC's looking for a

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. They hired Anthony lin Son. I get it,

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Speaker 1: but like, up until yesterday, they were why did they

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Speaker 1: just I just called.

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Speaker 2: Gas Johnson asked that question on TV, even though I

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Speaker 2: was thinking, Joe answer yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just like, if I'm that defensive coordinator, I'm just like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: two point five million, get me to a school with

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Speaker 1: a real offense and somebody would pay for it. To saga,

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Speaker 1: I'm stealing all your your shine here, I apologize no.

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Speaker 5: And this would bring me back actually to Chicago sports

526
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Speaker 5: because you were talking about the low scoring literally on

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Speaker 5: these airwaves after the Bears low scoring Thursday win. It

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Speaker 5: was the first time in thirty years I think that

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Speaker 5: the Bears have not scored a touchdown but won. And

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Speaker 5: so we found out the last time it happened, Jim

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Speaker 5: Harbaugh was the starting quarterback for Michigan. We found the

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Speaker 5: highlights from ESPN Sunday Afternoon Football Show back then they

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Speaker 5: showed a highlight of a punt in the game because

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Speaker 5: there just were no offensive highlights. We have a minute

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Speaker 5: to go in the Big Ten Championship game on Fox

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Speaker 5: TV and Indy Michigan is taking a knee and leading

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Speaker 5: twenty six nothing against Iowa, So the Big Ten Easts

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Speaker 5: will go to ten and zero against the Western Conference

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Speaker 5: title games, which each each of these past six double

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Speaker 5: digit victories. This will be a twenty six nothing Wolverines final.

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Speaker 5: When's the last time Iowa beat a top five ranked

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Speaker 5: team well outside of their own Kinnick Stadium. It's happened

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Speaker 5: once since nineteen ninety when Iowa won at Penn State

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Speaker 5: in two thousand and nine, But this is going final.

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Speaker 5: Blake Korum two short touchdown runs the rest field goals,

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Speaker 5: including a fifty yarder here late in the game. They're

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Speaker 5: trying to throw the gatorade on Jim Harbough and he

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Speaker 5: is not going to make it away from them. Apparently.

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Speaker 5: Oh he did good escape job by the new coach.

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Speaker 5: I say new because he's missed half the season. Remember

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Speaker 5: ye twenty six to nothing Michigan over Iowa. That is

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Speaker 5: a final. As for the ACC Championship game, number four

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Speaker 5: and undefeated Florida State, we'll thirteen to six lead late

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Speaker 5: in the game against Louisville, and you referenced the defense

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Speaker 5: for Florida State here. The athletic points out Louisville on

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Speaker 5: the season it's averaging six point six yards per play,

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Speaker 5: that's top twenty in the nation, and yet Florida State's

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Speaker 5: holding them to half that. Tonight. It's now sixteen to six,

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Speaker 5: two nineteen to go in the ACC title game, and

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Speaker 5: Florida State, because of injuries having to play a third

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Speaker 5: string quarterback. Tonight, number eight Alabama beat number one Georgia

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Speaker 5: twenty seven to twenty four to win the SEC. Bulldogs

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Speaker 5: had won twenty nine straight. Seventh ranked Texas won forty

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Speaker 5: nine twenty one to take the Big twelve crown against

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Speaker 5: eighteenth ranked Oklahoma State. Among the NBA games, the Dallas

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Speaker 5: Mavericks were in action and Luka Donsich was back. He

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Speaker 5: missed last night's game after the birth of his daughter.

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Speaker 5: He played and they lost to Oklahoma City one twenty

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Speaker 5: six to one twenty. Kyrie Irving was out tonight with

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Speaker 5: a sore foot. Clippers came back to beat Golden State,

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Speaker 5: updating the ACC again two nineteen to go as they

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Speaker 5: just come on the field after the kickoff ten point

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Speaker 5: lead for the shall I say louder undefeated Florida State

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Speaker 5: seminoles back to.

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Speaker 1: You, sounds like I know wh're di seger Leans in

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Speaker 1: the FSU Bama debate.

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Speaker 5: There since when has an undefeated Power five conference champion

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Speaker 5: been left out of the top five, top four?

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Speaker 1: It has never happened, literally never.

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Speaker 2: Which means they're overdue.

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Speaker 1: Well, the one interesting thing we are Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 1: at Air, Torus, Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Tyreck

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Speaker 1: dot Com studios. One thing that is worth Jason, you

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Speaker 1: mentioned the history of precedent. The other thing that I've

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Speaker 1: thought about throughout the week, like president essentially goes out

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Speaker 1: the window at twelve oh one tomorrow when they announced

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Speaker 1: these teams because there's a twelve team playoffs, So like

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Speaker 1: in previous years, yeah, maybe you wouldn't have wanted to

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Speaker 1: leave out the undefeated power conference champ, but now it's like,

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Speaker 1: well next year they're all getting in, so who cares.

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Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what we've been teasing long enough

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Speaker 1: we have The phone lines are are jam packed, so

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Speaker 1: I want to get to some calls. I believe Kevin

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Speaker 1: in Kansas City, Is that right? Kevin in Kansas City,

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Speaker 1: Chris Chris, I was just in Kansas City this week.

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Speaker 1: What a phenomenal city. I mean, it's cold and snowy

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Speaker 1: there or at least it was when I left this morning.

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Speaker 1: But how you doing? What do you think Florida State, Alabama,

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Speaker 1: Florida State. It looks like we'll close out this ACC

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Speaker 1: title one twenty seven left, they're up ten points. Where

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Speaker 1: do you stand?

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Speaker 6: Well, it's funny, you guys have been hitting on a

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Speaker 6: lot of points and on hold that I was gonna make.

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Speaker 6: But I will shock you guys with another scenario. I

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Speaker 6: think Florida State and Washington get left out because at

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Speaker 6: this point we know that it's going to switch to

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Speaker 6: thiswell team playoffs. We know that the committee already came

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Speaker 6: out said we're going to take the four best teams

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Speaker 6: right now, which you know, looking at everybody's resumes, you

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Speaker 6: have an argument everywhere around, including Ohio State, Texas and

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Speaker 6: so on. But as of right now, your biggest win

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Speaker 6: for Alabama literally just put them in the playoff regardless.

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Speaker 8: You know, with them winning the SEC champision.

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Speaker 6: You can't leave Georgia out against one of the best

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Speaker 6: teams in the nation for losing after the last historical

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Speaker 6: run that they've had over the last three years.

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Speaker 8: When you look at.

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Speaker 6: Florida State, you look at the lack of offense and They're

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Speaker 6: a straight defensive team right now without their quarterbacks, and

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Speaker 6: at this point you can't leave Michigan out. Michigan upsetting

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Speaker 6: Ohio State and literally being a contender all year round

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Speaker 6: and being as solid as they are. So I have

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Speaker 6: it as Alabama, Georgia, Michigan, and then Texas over the

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Speaker 6: two underfeated teach The reason being is their win loss

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Speaker 6: record against the Power five. They got more on their

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Speaker 6: resumes to show with that win against Alabama. I think

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Speaker 6: that they get in and the two undefeated teams get out.

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Speaker 6: So that would be my.

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Speaker 1: Takeok, Well, thank you for the call, Chris.

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Speaker 2: Certainly that was That was quite a first call right there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was quite a first call. So so it

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Speaker 1: was Washington and who was out?

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Speaker 2: I missed that Tech, Florida State, Florida, both the undefeated

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Speaker 2: from the PAC twelve and the ACC. I don't think

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Speaker 2: the Washington thing has a chance.

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Speaker 9: No.

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Speaker 1: I think he was saying Georgia should be in. Let

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Speaker 1: me say this about Georgia.

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Speaker 2: I know, but he was No. What I'm saying is

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Speaker 2: he was saying Washington was going to be out.

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Speaker 1: Yes for Georgia. So basically his his four was Alabama Texas, Michigan, Georgia,

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Speaker 1: and I will say it is worth noting really quick.

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Speaker 1: Kirby Smart did half heartedly try to make the case

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Speaker 1: for Georgia after the game. He said something to the

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Speaker 1: effect we have the sound, but we'll get to it

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Speaker 1: maybe after the break. But like he said, after the game,

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Speaker 1: he said, well, you know, I mean, the committee says

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Speaker 1: it's the best four. I mean, how can you leave

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Speaker 1: us out? Let me say this. One thing that drove

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Speaker 1: me crazy Jason this week is and this was under

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Speaker 1: the scenario where maybe an at large team gets in,

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Speaker 1: is the conversation about, well, you can't leave Georgia out

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Speaker 1: because this would be their first loss in three years.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Florida State is.

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Speaker 2: Officially over two years, don't count.

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Speaker 1: It is a referendum on this season. I'm sorry, that's stupid.

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Speaker 1: It's a referendum on this season. Now, you can argue

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Speaker 1: only point I'm trying to make and I.

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Speaker 2: Say, well, wait, can I say this if Alabama wins,

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Speaker 2: though I think it is almost impossible to separate the

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Speaker 2: being the team to end that streak, maybe more so

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Speaker 2: Alabama beat a team that hasn't lost in three years.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that

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Speaker 1: I will say this, I think Alabama beat an incredible

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Speaker 1: I do think there's something to nobody, but Bama has

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Speaker 1: that has anything to do with what happened this season.

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Speaker 1: And so Georgia, it sucks, but they had their chain

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Speaker 1: to play their way in. They did not. They are out.

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Speaker 1: Tell you what, Jason, we have more phone calls. We

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Speaker 1: leaving Florida State out, Texas out, whatever. A lot of

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Speaker 1: people are on the phones. Pat is Eugene in Memphis,

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Speaker 1: still on go ahead, put Eugene, I'm in Memphis. Through it.

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Speaker 1: Please Eugenie there.

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Speaker 10: Hey, what's going on?

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Speaker 8: Man?

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Speaker 3: How you doing good?

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Speaker 1: You've been very patient, Eugene. We want to hear your

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Speaker 1: thoughts Florida State, Alabama. Should one be in, should one

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Speaker 1: be out? Should both be in and somebody else be out?

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Speaker 1: What's your stance on the current state of things in

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Speaker 1: college football?

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Speaker 11: Well, for me, it's kind of hard for a team

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Speaker 11: to tell a team to do all the right games

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Speaker 11: and practice in in game time and you going to

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Speaker 11: feed it and at the end of the season you

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Speaker 11: should be rewarded. And if Florida State's not warned to

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Speaker 11: be in that playoff picture, even with your quarterback out.

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Speaker 11: To me, that seems to be a problem. Although Alabama

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Speaker 11: did beat Georgia hadn't lost the game like three years.

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Speaker 11: But you know, that's a that's a that's like a

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Speaker 11: rival game. You know, you can toss them up. You know,

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Speaker 11: that can be probably the worst team that scc is

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Speaker 11: still end up beating each other. You know. So, But uh, man,

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Speaker 11: it's kind of hard to knock Alabama out of there.

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Speaker 11: But I would have to put Florida State in there, man,

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Speaker 11: no doubt.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question, Eugene, and Jason, I

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Speaker 1: want you to chime in on this as well. There's

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Speaker 1: there seem to be two very decisive, like divided narratives,

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Speaker 1: with people having strong opinions on both. There is a

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Speaker 1: segment of the population that just says you cannot leave

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Speaker 1: out a one loss SEC champ. I don't necessarily believe that, Uh, Eugene,

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Speaker 1: it sounds like you have no problem leaving out the

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Speaker 1: SEC champ just based on the way things broke, does it?

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Speaker 11: I don't have I don't have a problem with it

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Speaker 11: because you have to look at it, uh, at the

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Speaker 11: whole whole. The times of the situation. Alabama hasn't been

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Speaker 11: just Alabama of yesteryear, last year or a few years behind,

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Speaker 11: you know, back when they were really dominating. You know,

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Speaker 11: they really been getting off by the skin of the teeth,

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Speaker 11: same way Alabama got beat by Texas.

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Speaker 10: So what do you say to Texas? You know, most of.

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Speaker 11: Those teams lost lost the game. As yet, Florida State

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Speaker 11: has not lost. They've done everything that you ascertain to do.

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Speaker 11: So how can you not how can you not reward

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Speaker 11: those guys to let them fight for the title with

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Speaker 1: Awesome, Eugene, great call, Thank you for the call. We

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Speaker 1: appreciate your time. We appreciate you holding Eugene is team

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Speaker 1: Florida State. Jason, do you like obviously, I mean, this

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Speaker 1: is part of the conversation. Do you have a fundamental

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Speaker 1: issue with the SEC champ being left out?

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Speaker 2: Man? It's hard for me, especially where I live in

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Speaker 2: the sport to have covered for such a long time

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Speaker 2: to think that the SEC CHAMPI would be left out

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Speaker 2: because there was a scenario where I mean, unless Georgia

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Speaker 2: at that point, unless Georgia went undefeated, you weren't going

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Speaker 2: to have somebody from the SEC that seems unthinkable considering

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Speaker 2: everything else to happen, But this has been an odd

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Speaker 2: year for circumstance. I was listening to the television broadcaster

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Speaker 2: during the commercial break, and I listened to Mike Norvell's

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Speaker 2: case and he said, you know, there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: good teams with a lot of good arguments, and you

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Speaker 2: know they showed why they have an argument, and they

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Speaker 2: also all lost games. And he's got a good point.

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Speaker 2: He's got a really good point. And I heard Jesse

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Speaker 2: how hard it is to go undefeated in college football

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Speaker 2: with guys that are eighteen nineteen years old having to

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Speaker 2: make sure they're dialed in week after week and all

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Speaker 2: this is like you basically did. I think Eugene's point

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Speaker 2: is right that you could not have done more than

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Speaker 2: what Florida State just did. There's nothing that they could

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Speaker 2: have accomplished that they didn't accomplish. They went undefeated. And

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Speaker 2: here is the I heard this analogy made and it's

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Speaker 2: up your alley here, and I want to get your

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Speaker 2: thoughts as we go to the break, and I know

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Speaker 2: we got more calls. Do you look at this the

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Speaker 2: way you look at selection Sunday. Or is it different

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Speaker 2: where you lose a star off of one of those

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Speaker 2: teams and you drop them a few seeds in the tournament?

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Speaker 2: Can you afford to do that? Is it fair to

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Speaker 2: do that in a sport where there are only four

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Speaker 2: chances at least until next year?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? When when I don't think it's analogous? When when

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Speaker 1: I don't either.

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Speaker 2: Because of the amount of teams that get into the tournament? Right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when Cincinnati lost Kenny and Martin, they still got

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Speaker 1: the seat line whatever. This is different. Interesting, Uh, And

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Speaker 1: it is the conversation that's going to drive the rest

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Speaker 1: In college football. Of note, at Florida State has won

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Speaker 1: Top four. Washington as the Pac twelve champ, is in.

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Speaker 1: I think, in my opinion that Texas is in because

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Speaker 1: if you exclude Texas, then you have to acknowledge that

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Speaker 1: you're basically saying their head to head win against Alabama

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter. I'll say this Jason, now that we're talking

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Speaker 1: it out. If the committee is going to break a precedent,

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Speaker 1: I think the precedent that they're much more willing to

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Speaker 1: break is leaving out an undefeated power conference champion in

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Speaker 1: Florida State that is clearly not one of the four

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Speaker 1: best teams more than it would be to leave out

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Speaker 1: a Texas team with an identical record as Alabama, both

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Speaker 1: So I know we're kind of going in a bunch

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Speaker 1: of different directions here, but it's the topic of the night.

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Speaker 1: If a precedent is going to be broken, I definitely

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Speaker 1: think it's leaving Florida State out at thirteen to zero

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Speaker 1: much more than it is leaving Texas out with the

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Speaker 2: Otherwise, I agree, and I think that even though and

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Speaker 2: this team would clearly beat this team, that it can't

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Speaker 2: be that, because if that's all we're doing is looking

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Speaker 2: at hypotheticals, then we shouldn't even play a season. We'll

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Speaker 2: just pick it before we see it. It's like the

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Speaker 2: entire regular season is just so that we can have

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Speaker 2: an opinion as to who the best teams are and

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Speaker 2: then four of them get in. That's why there's ultimate

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Speaker 2: debate so many times over this. But this one is

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Speaker 2: to well, at least we're not gonna have to worry

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Speaker 2: think anyone would argue that Alabama is one of the

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Speaker 2: four best teams in a country at this point. I

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Speaker 2: It's hard. It's really hard to look at Florida State

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Speaker 2: and I did it last week and you push back

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Speaker 2: a little bit, and you weren't wrong to do it.

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Speaker 2: It was hard for me to even make the case

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Speaker 2: he's doing for them on the sidelines and how he

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00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 2: is staying with them. He's obviously a wonderful human being,

867
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 2: like he must be a great kid, I mean truly.

868
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 2: But they're not the same team right now, so there's

869
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 2: a lot of there's a lot of discussion. I do

870
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 2: find it interesting that you are getting opinions being written

871
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 2: by people I respect, no have interviewed, have interacted with

872
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 2: through the years. You're getting several different opinions on many

873
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 2: of the major publications already about this. I don't know

874
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 2: if that's for clicks or what it is. But again,

875
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 2: somebody who is deserving, very deserving, and is clearly good enough,

876
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 2: is not going to have an opportunity to play for

877
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 2: a national championship this year.

878
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: No, and I think listen, I mean, this is the

879
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: gift in the curse of staying with four for this

880
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 1: year and eventually getting to a twelve team college football

881
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: playoff next year. Next year, these debates aren't going to happen.

882
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: This is something we talk about three weeks ago. Jason

883
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: is you know, we're gonna be arguing over teams. Frankly,

884
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: they aren't even playing this weekend right, Well, you know

885
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: next year it'll be a Missouri at twelve versus you know, Oregon.

886
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 2: What is this? And there's not gonna be twelve undefeated,

887
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 2: So we're not gonna have the same argument. There's not

888
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 2: gonna be well, we you can't leave this team out.

889
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 2: Look what they did know when we're looking at twelve

890
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 2: and thirteen, those arguments are gonna be a lot less.

891
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 2: They're gonna be a lot less passionate.

892
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: No, And that's you know, and I've said this many times,

893
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 1: By the way, you want to call in one eight

894
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Speaker 1: seven seven ninety nine on Fox one eight seven seven

895
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Speaker 1: nine nine six six three six nine if you want

896
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 1: to share your thoughts. Ryan followed from tied to one

897
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Speaker 1: hundred point nine, we'll join us here momentarily. And oh,

898
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: by the way, on top of that, also we we

899
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: we we are efforting somebody from the Big Ten Championship

900
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: game where Michigan has won a third straight SEC or

901
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: third straight Big Ten title. Excuse me, we.

902
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 2: Won last year, right we had Satan was still at

903
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 2: least one of the last two of these.

904
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had CJ. Stroud, but that wasn't obviously a

905
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 1: Big Ten Championship game because he never started in one,

906
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 1: because he lost to Michigan twice in a row, which,

907
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: as we've learned, maybe more not on him because he's awesome,

908
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: but no, I mean, listen.

909
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 2: Ran as straight on to day. His team did even

910
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 2: play well.

911
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: He caught multiple strays because Ohio State came into the

912
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: day and there was a limited possibility that they could

913
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: get in. But there was a possibility. But I will say,

914
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: like this is like the gift and the curse of

915
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: the four team versus twelve team playoff is that there

916
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 1: are really good teams that are being left out. But

917
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 1: I also think that is the negative effect of the

918
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: college football playoff expanding as well. Not that you want

919
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 1: teams to be left out, but you know, you have

920
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: an Oregon losing last night, that game would have no

921
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: consequence for them. You have a Georgia losing today, Well,

922
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: you just pack up your bags, go home, and get

923
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 1: ready for the college football playoff. And so we're entering

924
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 1: a new era and it's going to be interesting. I'm

925
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: just fascinated to see. I'm just fascinated to see how

926
00:46:59,080 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: it all plays out.

927
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 2: Again.

928
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: The conversation, the topic that we want to get to, Pat,

929
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: do we have somebody on the phone here? Do we

930
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 1: have somebody on the line? I see the line blinking.

931
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: All right, Pat, who do we have here? Go to

932
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: the lines? Hello, you're on with Fox Sports Radio errators

933
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: Jason Martin. Okay, I guess the call just dropped. You

934
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: want to get in one eight seven, seven ninety nine

935
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: on Fox again. The conversation, Jason is just it is

936
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: this Florida State versus Bama. Maybe Texas too, By the way,

937
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: who was it? One of our callers mentioned Washington not

938
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: being in.

939
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 8: Yeah.

940
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 2: The first caller said he thought Washington Florida State would

941
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 2: both be left out in favor of Georgia and Alabama.

942
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 2: And I said, the Washington thing, in my opinion's got

943
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 2: zero chance of happening. I will say this, Let's talk

944
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 2: about Washington for just one second. What they did Friday

945
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 2: I did not see coming. I felt like, I mean,

946
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 2: what was it? Oregon was an eight and a half

947
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 2: point favorite. That became a nine and a half point favorite,

948
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 2: so it was even being bet in the direction more

949
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 2: towards Oregon. Washington beat Oregons and that's got to be

950
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 2: one of the most gut wrenching losses for an Oregon

951
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 2: fan ever, because not only did they lose the game,

952
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 2: they probably lost the Heisman as well.

953
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: It was it was just it was a rough how

954
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: about this, Jason?

955
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 2: Rough evening for bow Nicks?

956
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 1: How about this Jason Oregon? The last? Since November one,

957
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty two, Oregon has three losses. Both years,

958
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: they entered November with the chance to make the playoff.

959
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,919
Speaker 1: This year, as you just referenced, bow Knicks had a chance,

960
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: a very good chance to win the Heisman. All three

961
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: of their losses have come to their rival Washington. How

962
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: about that three losses in the last twelve calendar months

963
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: all to Washington. The Washington loss last year knocked them

964
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: out of the playoff picture, of the loss this year

965
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,359
Speaker 1: knocked them out of the playoff picture last night. I'm

966
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,879
Speaker 1: with you. I did not see it coming on Friday night.

967
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 1: I will say the one thing that kind of shocked

968
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: me was I didn't see anybody make the case for

969
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,439
Speaker 1: Washington this week, and I thought that that might be something.

970
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what though, Jason, the phone lines are

971
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: on fire. Awesome, Sam in North Dakota. You're on with

972
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: Jason Martin and Air Taurus Fox Sports Radio. Who are

973
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: your four right now at twelve oh nine Eastern time

974
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:19,760
Speaker 1: here on Sunday.

975
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Speaker 12: Unfortunately, I think, uh, I mean, I don't know how

976
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 12: Texas doesn't get in.

977
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 3: I really I agree.

978
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 12: You beat you beat Alabama in Tuscaloosa. If you don't

979
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 12: put them in, then you basically just say that the

980
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 12: regular season doesn't matter, which is about as unfair as

981
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:38,280
Speaker 12: it gets.

982
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 6: But is there?

983
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 12: I mean, the earlier call was Washington being out was

984
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 12: more of the more asenine things I've ever heard in

985
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 12: my life.

986
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,280
Speaker 2: I'm with you, I'm with you times of your opinion,

987
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 2: but that was wrong.

988
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,800
Speaker 12: They're the two seeds.

989
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 6: They're in.

990
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 12: But is there that outside chance because Jordan Travis isn't there?

991
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 12: That just ratings whise. Somebody doesn't want want to watch

992
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 12: Florida State get trampled by a Michigan.

993
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

994
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 12: Well, I mean, because I don't know how you don't

995
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 12: put so. Florida State's good win was against LSU, but

996
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 12: Bama beat them two, Texas beats.

997
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 10: Alabama on the road.

998
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 12: You struggled the last two weeks without Jordan Travis. Is

999
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 12: there a chance that Texas and Alabama make it and

1000
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:20,760
Speaker 12: they leave Forlidason.

1001
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:21,439
Speaker 8: I don't think it's.

1002
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:22,720
Speaker 12: Right, but I mean, is there a shot?

1003
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 2: That's my four?

1004
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:24,760
Speaker 12: Thank you guys?

1005
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1006
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,439
Speaker 2: Man, Look that's my four when you if you want

1007
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 2: my four right now, it's Michigan, Washington, Alabama and Texas

1008
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,879
Speaker 2: those would be the four because I think the Jordan

1009
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 2: Travis thing matters. But to his point, he was talking

1010
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 2: about the regular season. If you go undefeated in the

1011
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 2: regular season, that's got to matter too. So that that's

1012
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 2: the that's the conundrum for the committee trying to make

1013
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 2: this decision tonight. As you were this is you don't

1014
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 2: have a perfect choice here. You just don't. I mean,

1015
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 2: Florida State went undefeated, but there are some things that

1016
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 2: you have to factor in or do you And then

1017
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 2: and Nick Saban said this, He said, we're not the

1018
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 2: same team that we were when we played Texas. We're

1019
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 2: not the same team as a team we played when

1020
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 2: we were South Florida. Well, the argument against that is, yeah,

1021
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 2: but we got to take your entire season into account.

1022
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 2: We can't just take into account what you say about

1023
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 2: what your team is. Now again, we're getting into hypothetical territory.

1024
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 2: Even though you're right, and I've made the same argument

1025
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 2: Saban made, But those those things happen. Those were things

1026
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 2: that actually happened, that are part of history, that are

1027
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 2: part of this season's resume, that do have to be

1028
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 2: taken into account. Wins have to be taken into account.

1029
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 2: Losses have to be taken into account. Performances have to

1030
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 2: be taken into account. There's a lot there, and that

1031
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 2: becomes your real issue here is Florida State. You can't

1032
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 2: look at any moment and say, yeah, they lost. They didn't.

1033
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 2: They went to overtime against Clemson, but they won. They

1034
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 2: won close games but so did Alabama. Bama had three

1035
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 2: or four moments that they could have lost games that

1036
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 2: they were able to pull the rabbit out of the

1037
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 2: hat and win, and then had a thunderous win. So

1038
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 2: there's gosh, they're so much here. There's so much meat

1039
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 2: on this bone because of the way this all played

1040
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 2: out well.

1041
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: And Sam, I think, brought up an interesting point. He said,

1042
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,919
Speaker 1: does anybody want to watch Michigan blow out Florida State?

1043
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: And I think that is And it's why it's so

1044
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 1: tough for me, because I sit here and say, if

1045
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: you had asked me, you know, under any other circumstance

1046
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 1: in any other year, I'd say, I think the undefeated

1047
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 1: team should get in no doubt about it, Power Conference champion, whatever,

1048
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. But what I like what he just said,

1049
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 1: somebody's probably gonna blow out Florida State, although that defense

1050
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 1: is really good. But the point that Sam made is

1051
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:36,280
Speaker 1: important because because I do think that is the committees

1052
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 1: get out of jail free card. You're not arguing about

1053
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 1: a two loss SECT A champion, a three loss SEC champion.

1054
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: You're you're arguing about a one loss SEC champ that

1055
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: has won whatever it is now eleven twelve straight games,

1056
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: whatever it is, beat Georgia, maybe the best win of

1057
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: the year, and so if the argument again, but the

1058
00:52:58,040 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 1: argument essentially comes down to what you and I are

1059
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: to talking about, what every other podcast or whatever is

1060
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: talking about right now. Does the committee value the best

1061
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 1: or do they value the most deserving? Because what Sam said,

1062
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: I think, in my opinion, is so important is does

1063
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: Florida State like like we all think, Florida State's probably

1064
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to compete. That's part of it.

1065
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: Every team in the draw would rather have Florida State

1066
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: in their draw than Alabama. You ask Michigan, you asked Washington,

1067
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: he asked Texas. They would all rather have Alabama or

1068
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: rather have Florida State than face Alabama. So that all

1069
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:32,919
Speaker 1: is a factor as well. Pat, Do we have one

1070
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,280
Speaker 1: more call to get to before before break?

1071
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 2: Is it?

1072
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 1: Reggie in Portland? Reggie and Portland around with Jason Martin

1073
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 1: and Ara Taurus, Fox Sports Radio. Go ahead, Reggie Fella's tremendous.

1074
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,919
Speaker 13: You know what, I gotta be honest, You can't keep

1075
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 13: Florida State out.

1076
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:48,479
Speaker 9: WHOA, You just can't.

1077
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 8: You just can't.

1078
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,839
Speaker 13: They ran the freaking table. You know, this is an

1079
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 13: undefeated team. They did every dance they were supposed to

1080
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 13: do that they're put in front of them. They went

1081
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,240
Speaker 13: too and zero against the SCC. They've got great wins

1082
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 13: up and down that schedule, and I don't want to

1083
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 13: hear anything about hypotheticals though Michigan's gonna blow them out.

1084
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,399
Speaker 8: That defense is elite and.

1085
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 13: That defense is gonna keep them in every single game

1086
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 13: that they've played. And here's the other thing, Jordan Travis's

1087
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 13: injury that was devastating and heartbreaking. But I'm gonna make

1088
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 13: the case that they should be in because of what

1089
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 13: they've been able to do and overcome since his injury.

1090
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 8: Right, they went.

1091
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 13: Down to the Swamp that's historically a very difficult place

1092
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 13: to play, and they got it done. Then they just

1093
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 13: knocked out in a you know, a really good Louisville team.

1094
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,439
Speaker 8: I don't want to hear it. They're thirteen and zero.

1095
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 13: They are a top four team in this country and

1096
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 13: they came in number four.

1097
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 8: What are you gonna do?

1098
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 13: Penalize them or they won the ACC titles for now,

1099
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 13: we're gonna drop them out.

1100
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:45,399
Speaker 8: I don't care.

1101
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 13: It goes Michigan Washington Florida State. And then who cares

1102
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 13: to fop the coin you want to take in that

1103
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 13: SEC team with a coin, Bama, Texas, whatever, United says

1104
00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:00,879
Speaker 13: just it's it's crazy crazy to me how we could

1105
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 13: stick here and stay even debate a thirteen to zero

1106
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 13: power five school with good wins up and down the

1107
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 13: schedule and an elite defense that will never ever let

1108
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,240
Speaker 13: this team get blown out, and we're sitting here having

1109
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 13: a debate whether they should be in the playoff.

1110
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 8: Come on, guys, still with me? America you know it.

1111
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 8: Florida State, Baby, they are a.

1112
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: Top four team, So you think Florida State should be in? Then,

1113
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: as we telling Reggie, thank you for the call. That

1114
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 1: was unbelievable, can I.

1115
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 2: Just ask one question? Well, first off, a great call, Yeah,

1116
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 2: Reggie racket not right. Just I said, that's that's the

1117
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 2: play of the day. That's the play of the day.

1118
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 2: We played again. I was got an elite defense, right, Yeah,

1119
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 2: that's fair they do. Yes, that's my only that's my

1120
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:45,760
Speaker 2: only question.

1121
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 1: But I was in order state of though.

1122
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 2: No, no, it's not about Iowa getting in. It's about not

1123
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 2: getting blown out because their defense is going to keep minute.

1124
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 2: What happened to Iowa.

1125
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 1: Tonight lost twenty six, twenty three.

1126
00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 2: Nothing that counts a blowout against the elite defense. Would

1127
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 2: you want to see that in a college football playoff?

1128
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 2: Do you think that Florida State's defense is dimensually better

1129
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 2: than Iowa was? No, I just I'm just throwing those hypotheticals.

1130
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 2: I know we got Fowler and I can't wait to

1131
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 2: hear what he has to say.

1132
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'll tell you what you think. Reggie in

1133
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: Portland was passionate. Ryan Fowler from Tide one hundred point nine,

1134
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 1: which by the way, is now a Fox Sports Radio affiliate.

1135
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 1: We're proud to have Tide one hundred point nine as

1136
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: part of the Fox Sports Radio family. Ryan will join

1137
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: us next, either from Atlanta or from a road somewhere

1138
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 1: between Atlanta and Tuscaloosa. He will, of course, he will

1139
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 1: make the argument that Alabama. I you know, whatever Reggie

1140
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: just said about Florida State, that's what Ryan's gonna say

1141
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 1: about Alabama. So well, Ryan Fowler tied one hundred point

1142
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: Ne'll join us next. Plus, the phone lines are still

1143
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 1: on fire. If you're on hold, please wait. We will

1144
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 1: get to your calls. It is a busy night. It

1145
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: is a fun night. Florida State versus Bama. Should Texas

1146
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: be in the mix? Should they not be in the mix?

1147
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: Or continue in the calls all night long. This is

1148
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Aaron Torris,

1149
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: Jason Martin. We are broadcasting live from the Tireck dot

1150
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: Com studios. By the way, I should mention football fans

1151
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: be sure to tune into Fox Sports Radio every Sunday

1152
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 1: morning beginning at ten am Eastern seven Pacific for Countdown

1153
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:27,200
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1154
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:31,240
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1155
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,840
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1156
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:38,080
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1157
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: Radio and the iHeartRadio app. The guys have you covered

1158
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 1: for three hours pregame every Sunday Jason Martin and I

1159
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: got you covered for three hours post game. We are

1160
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: efforting somebody from the Big Ten Championship game where Michigan

1161
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 1: has taken care of business against the Iowa Hawk guys.

1162
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: Michigan wins twenty six to nothing. The assumption is that

1163
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: not only are they in the college football Playoff, but

1164
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 1: that they will probably be the number one overall seed

1165
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: with Number one Georgia losing earlier today to Alabama. Jason, Huh,

1166
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:16,959
Speaker 1: this is a fun night, man. There's there's a lot

1167
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 1: going on, a lot of calls, a lot of conversation.

1168
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: I will say something that you have mentioned throughout the show.

1169
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: I don't think it's right. It does feel like there

1170
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 1: is an increasing effort UH to uh to make a

1171
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: conversation around Texas. I've seen other people talking about it.

1172
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 1: I still think the conversation is one lost Alabama, undefeated

1173
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: Florida State. Let me ask you this, Jason Martin, you're

1174
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 1: a one person college football Playoff committee. You have the

1175
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 1: fourth spot for you have the four spots. I'm not

1176
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 1: even gonna opinion to Michigan and Washington and whoever. You

1177
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 1: have four spots. Who are the four teams that you're putting.

1178
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 2: In Michigan one, Washington two, Texas three, Alabama.

1179
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: Four, Alabama four.

1180
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 2: And that's really hard for me to say because I

1181
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 2: can really make the argument for Florida State. But I

1182
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 2: just look at that team and not I mean, look,

1183
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 2: they beat the top fifteen opponent with a freshman quarterback

1184
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 2: that had, you know, barely stepped on a field on

1185
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 2: a college field until tonight. That should count. And I'm

1186
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 2: not completely disregarding it. I am looking at it and

1187
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 2: saying that team, as currently constructed really has no business

1188
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 2: being in a college football playoff, and that sucks. It

1189
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 2: really does. But somebody was going to get the short end,

1190
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 2: and I've got to give it to Florida State.

1191
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 1: It's interesting. I as of right now, I kind of

1192
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 1: lean the other way, and I'm torn. And by the way,

1193
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 1: I might wake up at eight am tomorrow and feel

1194
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 1: completely differently. I might. I might wake up and feel

1195
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: completely differently. But I look at Florida State, I look

1196
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: at the fe that not only are they undefeated, but

1197
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 1: I do think that defense will not be embarrassed and listen,

1198
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 1: I you know, I think Alabama can potentially win the

1199
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Speaker 1: college football play Tell you what, though, Jason, rather than

1200
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 1: hearing from me, how about we go out to Indianapolis.

1201
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 1: Do we have Jalen Harrol from the three again?

1202
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 2: How about that three? Big time?

1203
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 1: You run it out of fingers man? How you doing

1204
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 1: Jalen Harold defensive end Michigan. Jalen Harrold How are you

1205
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: doing tonight, my friend? How are you?

1206
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 10: You know, I'm doing well. You know, it's an exciting victory.

1207
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 10: Like I say, you know, we just stuck together for

1208
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 10: this whole season, man, and this whole journey, and we

1209
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 10: got our thirty one. Man. It feels good. But like

1210
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 10: I said, the job's not finished.

1211
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: Real quick, Jalen, you know, I want to get into

1212
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 1: this season looking ahead of the playoff been You're you're

1213
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 1: a fourth year senior, which means you were there during

1214
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 1: that COVID year in twenty twenty where listen, it was

1215
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: a chaotic year for everyone, but on the field it

1216
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 1: didn't go well for you guys as some who lived

1217
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 1: through the good but now you know the bad, but

1218
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 1: now the good and great? What what changed in that

1219
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 1: offseason in twenty twenty that has allowed you guys to

1220
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 1: basically be unbeatable, especially in Big ten play the last

1221
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 1: three years.

1222
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 10: I feel like it was really our leaders. You know,

1223
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 10: we had some great leaders. We had some great leaders

1224
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 10: and uh started for you know eight and start as

1225
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 10: you know, Brad Hawkins, Josh Ross, all those guys, you know, uh,

1226
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 10: they really led by example and they really got us

1227
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 10: back on track, you know, uh, and we just like

1228
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 10: played through them and stuff like that. So, like I say,

1229
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 10: you know, we got this new standard. Like I said,

1230
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 10: we've got to keep going and keep building. Like I said,

1231
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 10: the job's not finished.

1232
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 2: Did uh? Did this one mean more inside your locker room?

1233
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 2: Because of the added challenges that have presented themselves throughout

1234
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:47,919
Speaker 2: this year?

1235
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, definitely met more, especially with everybody had their

1236
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 10: two cent to say and stuff like that that God

1237
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 10: to say, we have to say. So it was a

1238
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 10: blessing though, and uh so good you know, to get

1239
01:01:58,440 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 10: it done. And after all hearing all the.

1240
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 1: New what what you know? What did hold you guys together?

1241
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 1: Because obviously take us into that like two three week

1242
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 1: period where you don't know if coach Charbaugh is gonna

1243
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 1: be there. You guys get on the plane to Penn State.

1244
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 1: What was it that held you guys together? Because you

1245
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 1: had your arguably your three toughest games coming into tonight

1246
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: without coach Haarbaugh on the sidelines, you go three and zero,

1247
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 1: and again it leads to a trip to Indianapolis in

1248
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 1: a third straight Big Ten championship.

1249
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 10: You know, like I said, you know those were I

1250
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 10: feel like we kind of got used to it. You know,

1251
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 10: it just falling up on our captains, our leaders, just

1252
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 10: being in this position, what six weeks out of the

1253
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 10: whole season, when a half coach for six weeks. Now,

1254
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 10: you know we did. We just stood together, stayed, you know,

1255
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 10: just building that family bond and the team to team

1256
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 10: the team. Like I said, you know, we did a

1257
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 10: great job sitting together and blocking all the noise and

1258
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 10: just realizing that our thols are so ahead of us.

1259
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 10: We didn't care what anyone had to say. You know,

1260
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 10: we just got it done.

1261
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 2: So we've you know, we've been speaking for ninety minutes

1262
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 2: trying to make playoff scenarios for all these teams. How

1263
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 2: good does it feel to not be part of those

1264
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 2: conversations because it's obvious that you're gonna be one of

1265
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 2: the four, if not the number one overall?

1266
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 10: See you No, No, that definitely that definitely feels good.

1267
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 10: You know, you know, it feels good. Like I said,

1268
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 10: you know, it'll be fun to find out who he

1269
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:16,919
Speaker 10: played tomorrow what not? Like I said, you know, Josh

1270
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 10: knock finished and let's celebrate tonight. Like I said, let's

1271
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 10: let's get to it. Let's get to work.

1272
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 1: Jalen Harrow defensive end for the Big Ten champion Michigan

1273
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 1: Wolverinees joining us. Last one for me, Jalen, Uh, talk talk,

1274
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 1: Just tell us a little bit about coach Tarball. I mean,

1275
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 1: we all see from the outside, we all know what

1276
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 1: kind of happened this season with the multiple suspensions. Uh,

1277
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 1: but it seems like you guys love playing for him

1278
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 1: and he loves coaching. What is he like on a

1279
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 1: day to day basis?

1280
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 10: You know, Coach Trouble, the best coach in the country.

1281
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 10: You know, we just stand behind him, stick behind him,

1282
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 10: and we just stick together as the whole team. Like

1283
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 10: I say, you know, we just block out all the noise,

1284
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 10: block out anyone has to say. And if you're not

1285
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 10: in the building, you're not with us. Like I say,

1286
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 10: you know, we just block you out. Handle business. Uh,

1287
01:03:58,120 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 10: you know, take it day by day, you know, just

1288
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 10: get it done as a team. That's the biggest thing

1289
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 10: as a team.

1290
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 1: Okay, one more, I do have one more for you,

1291
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 1: Jalen Harrell joining us from the Big Ten champion Michigan Wolverines.

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Speaker 1: What what has to change this coming month? Because listen,

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Speaker 1: you guys have done everything except you know, that ultimate,

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Speaker 1: that ultimate prize of a National Championship. We know about

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Speaker 1: TCU last year, Georgia the year before, uh, and I

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Speaker 1: know it stings And I'm not trying to bring it

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Speaker 1: up for negative reasons but positive. You know what, what

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Speaker 1: what has to change over these next few months so

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Speaker 1: that you have success now that you're in the playoff

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Speaker 1: and of course ultimately win that national championship.

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Speaker 10: I feel like we just have this fall back on

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Speaker 10: our training. You know, last year towards the end, we

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Speaker 10: kind of like, god of like what we did all year?

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Speaker 10: Like I say, you know, it's just a blessing.

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Speaker 2: You know, you said to.

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Speaker 1: You stuff changed during that What do you mean by that?

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Speaker 10: You said that saying I'm saying last year like we

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Speaker 10: kind of changed up, like you know, falling back on

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Speaker 10: the little details like you know when it comes to

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Speaker 10: like defensive wise, like we worked communicating in our best

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Speaker 10: friend and best was needed and stuff like that. So

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Speaker 10: like I said, we've got to go back to what

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Speaker 10: we've done. Let's not do too much. Is NOBO do

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Speaker 10: all year? Like I said, we prepare the right way

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Speaker 10: and I'll get it done.

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Speaker 1: That is Jalen Harrald Defensive End of the three time

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Speaker 1: now third straight Big ten champion Michigan Wolverines. Jalen, go

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Speaker 1: enjoy this evening. Can't wait till tomorrow to find out

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Speaker 1: who you're playing. Can't wait to watch you play on

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Speaker 1: New Year's Day.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Jaalen, appreciate it.

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Speaker 10: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: That was Jalen Harrold of the Michigan Wolverines. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: come back, react to Jalen Harrold.

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Speaker 2: Then we do. We do.

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Speaker 1: Got to get to Ryan Foller at some point. Ryan

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Speaker 1: Follered tied one hundred point.

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Speaker 10: Nice.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait for that. I really can't. It's gonna

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Speaker 2: be so good.

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Speaker 1: We'll do all that next before though, let's toss it

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Speaker 1: over the news desk Steve de Seger, what is trending?

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Speaker 1: My friend?

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Speaker 5: Tomorrow? Once the committee leaves out Florida State and leaves

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Speaker 5: out Georgia, can we then hear an announcement from them

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Speaker 5: that's one of the New Year six Bowl games is

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Speaker 5: gonna be Georgia against Florida State.

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Speaker 2: That's not what I saw. I saw the projection, Steve,

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Speaker 2: of Georgia versus Louisville in the matchup that we all want.

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Speaker 1: You know this is they have these Bowl times. I

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Speaker 1: think the Orange Bowl has to take an acc team,

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Speaker 1: and there's only one we want to see. Well, I

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Speaker 1: don't even think there's one we want to see at

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Speaker 1: this point, to be perfectly honest.

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Speaker 5: Also keep in mind that Liberty with that week's schedule

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Speaker 5: is undefeated and still has a chance at a New

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Speaker 5: Year's six Bowl. Because Tulane lost today, or maybe SMU

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Speaker 5: taking the trophy from a conference it is leaving gets in.

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Speaker 2: That big Perhaps we should be debating Liberty versus Florida State. Sorry,

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Speaker 2: I just felt like dropping a bomb on the entire show.

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Speaker 1: They might put up more points they battle of undefeated.

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Speaker 5: Can we weren't James Madison in there without a coach?

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Speaker 2: They lost a coach.

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Speaker 1: That kind of annoyed me this week. This coach has

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Speaker 1: been you know, he's been in on TV more than

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Speaker 1: the President, trying to fight to get them into bowl game.

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Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I'm gonna go take the worst job

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Speaker 1: in the Big Ten. I'm headed to Bloomington. See you

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Speaker 1: guys later. Good luck in that bowl game.

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Speaker 5: But they do have a bowl game. Right, as we

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Speaker 5: talked about last weekend, the teams.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he acted like it was he acted like

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Speaker 1: it was a world crisis that James Madison, Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 1: in a transition period that they knew they weren't going

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Speaker 1: to be bowl eligible.

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Speaker 5: Or eligible for their conference title today. Yeah, it's like, dude,

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Speaker 5: this is what you sign up for.

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Speaker 1: Then you act like it's the world is coming to

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Speaker 1: an end because you can't go to the Camellia Bowl

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Speaker 1: in Fresno. It's like any least, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 5: Okay, we'll just pass by that one.

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Speaker 1: There just st Fresno. I just I think the James

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Speaker 1: Madison former coach, you know whatever.

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Speaker 5: Appalachian State did play today because James Madison was not

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Speaker 5: eligible and they played at Troy in Alabama in the

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Speaker 5: Sun Belt Final. Troy got four touchdowns fourth quarter, one

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Speaker 5: at forty nine twenty three. And I know nobody knows

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Speaker 5: this because it was Troy against app State. There was

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Speaker 5: a guy on Troy's team that had five touchdown runs,

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Speaker 5: Kimani Vidal on twenty six carries, had two hundred and

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Speaker 5: thirty three yards rushing. So congrats. Other winners of conference

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Speaker 5: title games today, Boise State and SMU each on the road. Miami,

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Speaker 5: Ohio won the MAC. You know we mentioned on last

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Speaker 5: Saturday Night show it was going to be one awkward

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Speaker 5: trophy ceremony after another this weekend. You'd have the guy

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Speaker 5: that suspended Harbaugh giving Harbaugh the trophy tonight. Hey, Michigan

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Speaker 5: won the Big Ten. That did happen? And then of

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Speaker 5: course you had the guy in the Big twelve getting

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Speaker 5: booed by all the Texas fans on their way out.

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Speaker 5: SMU is leaving the American Conference and they go nine

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Speaker 5: to zero against American Conference teams and win at ranked

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Speaker 5: Tulane today. So yeah, one aftern in the Pac.

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Speaker 1: Twelve finals, George kliofkov I saw him hanging out on

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Speaker 1: the sidelines the commission that ran that league literally into extinction.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and not do it well. The guy before him

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Speaker 5: really did the yeoman's work, let's be honest. And yeah,

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Speaker 5: he kind of handed off the microphone last night in Vegas,

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Speaker 5: and it was a matchup of two teams that are

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Speaker 5: leaving for the Big Ten. Washington beating Oregon last night.

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Speaker 5: By the way, that was the highest rated Pack twelve

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Speaker 5: championship game they've ever had. On the way out last night,

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Speaker 5: they'd never had a Pack twelve title game with seven

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Speaker 5: million viewers. Last night was over nine million viewers. And

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Speaker 5: then there's the SEC Crown in Atlanta. It did not

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Speaker 5: go to number one Georgia.

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Speaker 2: Today.

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Speaker 5: Eighth ranked Alabama beat Georgia twenty seven. Twenty four Bulldogs

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Speaker 5: had won twenty nine straight. Number two Michigan undefeated won

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Speaker 5: the Big Ten twenty six nothing over Iowa. You know,

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Speaker 5: we've got to have something about Michigan or Io. I'll

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Speaker 5: save the Iowa thing for the next ten minutes from now.

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Speaker 5: But AP is quick to point out that with Georgia

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Speaker 5: losing and number two Michigan winning, the Michigan football program

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Speaker 5: has not been ranked number one in the AP poll

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Speaker 5: in over twenty five years wow, since the end of

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Speaker 5: the nineteen ninety seven season when they won the split title.

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Speaker 5: Stay tuned for that tomorrow. Number four Florida State Undefeated

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Speaker 5: won the ACC Crown sixteen to six over Louisville. Seventh

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Speaker 5: ranked Texas won the Big twelve forty nine to twenty

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Speaker 5: one against Oklahoma State in the NBA last night for

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Speaker 5: the MAVs, Luka Donsich was out after the birth of

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Speaker 5: his daughter. He played tonight. His team went on a

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Speaker 5: thirty to zhering run in the fourth quarter, and they

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Speaker 5: still lost at home to Oklahoma City one twenty six

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Speaker 5: to one twenty and Donsich had thirty six points, fifteen rebounds,

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Speaker 5: eighteen assists tonight and seven turnovers. Cleveland won at Detroit

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Speaker 5: one ten, one oh one. The Pistons have lost seventeen

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Speaker 5: games in a row. Back to you, Thank you very much,

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Speaker 5: Steve Seger. Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday Era Tours.

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Speaker 5: Jason Martin. We are broadcasting live from the tyreck dot

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Speaker 5: com studios. Tell you what, Jason, we will come back.

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Speaker 5: And when we come back, the man, the myth, the legend.

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Speaker 5: Ryan Fowler from tied one hundred point nine will join us.

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Speaker 5: Ryan covers Alabama. He was at the SEC Championship game today.

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Speaker 5: So we just had Jalen Harrow from the Big Ten.

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Speaker 5: We'll have Ryan Fowler next, and if you take a guess,

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Speaker 5: I think he will be backing and explaining why Alabama

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Speaker 5: deserves a shot at the playoff.

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Speaker 1: That's next. Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports

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Speaker 1: Radio erin Torus. Jason Martin broadcasting live from the tyreck

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Speaker 1: dot Com studios. Jason, We're gonna get to Ryan Foller

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Speaker 1: in just half a second, but I gotta give a

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Speaker 1: shout out to Corey Burkharth. Al right, he tweets in

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Speaker 1: listening to Fox Sports Radio at my house in Fresno

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Speaker 1: and erin Torres taking shots at the five five nine.

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Speaker 1: The Sager's laughing over there. Open up the lines again,

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Speaker 1: enjoining the fans calling in shout out to De Sager

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Speaker 1: and Ja mart Radio. Let me say this really quick

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Speaker 1: about Fresno. Okay, we picked up my beautiful dog, who

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Speaker 1: Ryan Fowler knows is is the north star in my

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Speaker 1: life from right outside Fresno, California. Drove through Fresno to

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Speaker 1: get her home, and again she's my little north Star.

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Speaker 1: So Corey, I love Fresno. I was just making a

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Speaker 1: point about James Madison's fraud of a former head coach

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Speaker 1: who is now at Indiana. But you know who's not

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Speaker 1: a fraud, Ryan Fowler. Can hear him every day Monday

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Speaker 1: through Friday. Anyway. Tied one hundred point nine two to six.

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Speaker 1: Eastern tied one hundred point nine. A new Fox Sports

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Speaker 1: Radio affiliate, Ryan Fowler, what's up, buddy? How you doing?

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Speaker 8: Man?

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Speaker 9: I think this is my first appearance on Nationale Radio,

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Speaker 9: but also via Tuscaloosive. But listen, we're so thankful that

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Speaker 9: you guys are part of, you know, our brand in Tuscaloosa.

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Speaker 9: You guys are kicking butt, just like Alabama took down

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Speaker 9: those dogs over there. You guys are putting a lot

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Speaker 9: of work in talk sports radio. It's good to have

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Speaker 9: an affiliation with you guys here in Tuscaloosen. Thank you

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Speaker 9: so much for the invitation.

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Speaker 1: So Ryan, we have basically spent We've been on since

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Speaker 1: eleven Eastern tenth Central and we've done nothing but take

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Speaker 1: calls and and talk Bama versus Florida State. I know

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Speaker 1: you're traveling back from Atlanta. You didn't have a chance

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Speaker 1: to watch Florida State.

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Speaker 9: I'm back in Tuscaloosion.

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Speaker 6: Man, I prove you know.

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Speaker 9: Oh yeah, Man, I mean, hey, I put this this

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Speaker 9: little vehico in the win.

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Speaker 8: I'm back.

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Speaker 6: Wow, you know it.

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Speaker 9: You know I was almost as Jaylen Milroll against those

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Speaker 9: dog defense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you stole the words right out on I say,

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Speaker 1: as fast as Jail Miller in the open field. So,

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Speaker 1: so you've got a chance to watch the thriller in

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Speaker 1: Charlotte between Florida State and Louisville. As an unbiased observer,

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Speaker 1: what are your impressions of the Florida State Seminoles who

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Speaker 1: believe that they have a say in the fourth spot

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Speaker 1: in the college football Playoff.

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Speaker 9: Well, you congratulate them all the season, but you know,

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Speaker 9: I understand that they've got to win against LSU. But listen,

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Speaker 9: Florida State, injuries are part of the game. And when

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Speaker 9: you try to judge based on injuries, you know, if

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Speaker 9: you take Patrick Mahomes own of Kansas City Chiefs, and

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Speaker 9: I'm not comparing the quarterbacks there and I'm just saying

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Speaker 9: it's not the same football team. When you look at

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Speaker 9: Florida State, you know, you congratulate them and you say, listen,

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Speaker 9: job well done. But I mean, injuries are part of

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Speaker 9: the game and the job of the committee.

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Speaker 12: Because we've heard it.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I've listened to every teleconference with Boot Corgan

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Speaker 9: every Tuesday night following the rankings, and I've heard him

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Speaker 9: talk about the case and then the injury happens. I've

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Speaker 9: heard head to head. Listen, Alabama just beat the number

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01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:05,160
Speaker 9: one team in the country, and without Alabama.

1505
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 8: Georgia would have just you might as well.

1506
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:08,599
Speaker 9: Handed the trophy to those guys and say you've done

1507
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 9: something never to happen in college football twenty nine and

1508
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 9: Gris straight games. They would have won three national titles.

1509
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 9: Alabama jumped out there and said, you know what, We're

1510
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:18,559
Speaker 9: going to take one for the team, and they cleared

1511
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 9: the path for somebody to win a national title. Is

1512
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 9: that team Alabama? Listen what I believe in the SEC

1513
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 9: I'm watching every week. Certainly I'm biased, but I think

1514
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 9: you could take a lot of teams out of the league.

1515
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 9: I think you could take an LSU. I think you

1516
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 9: could take the Missouri Tigers. I think you could probably

1517
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 9: take an O miss and you could do what some

1518
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 9: of these teams are able to do in other leagues.

1519
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 9: This is a tough league. It is every single week.

1520
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 9: You don't get to have a one game schedule. You

1521
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 9: don't play a couple of teams, and then you kind

1522
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:51,360
Speaker 9: of put it in cruise control to your next opponent

1523
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:52,720
Speaker 9: or maybe a championship.

1524
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:54,919
Speaker 8: Alabama deserves in the playoffs.

1525
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 9: And if this committee nos football, which I'm not convinced

1526
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 9: they do, they're gonna select the best four teams. And

1527
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 9: you know, we also got to remember it's about money,

1528
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 9: and I think it's setting athletic director should not be

1529
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 9: I just I mean, think about Luey Corgan for just

1530
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 9: a minute, he's an acc athletic director. He's having a

1531
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 9: Vegas far to safety. He financially gains from that. Let

1532
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 9: that think inns for a minute. He financially can get

1533
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:26,639
Speaker 9: kickbacks for his conference represented, and that's a conference that's

1534
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 9: also struggling financially.

1535
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 8: That's not guys, that's that's not.

1536
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 9: The way that we should select the four teams who

1537
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 9: play more, less pencil pushers and more football minds. Former players. Listen,

1538
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 9: I have put professional handicappers on.

1539
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 8: Go ask go ast Vegas. Go put Vegas on and say.

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01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:50,719
Speaker 1: Ryan, that's that's ridiculous, though, because then nothing that happens

1541
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:52,799
Speaker 1: on the field matters. I don't even know if Texas

1542
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 1: would be in if that's the case, and then why

1543
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 1: even play the games? Ryan followed, joining us, Jason, did

1544
01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 1: you want to jump in here? Was there something to add?

1545
01:15:58,560 --> 01:15:58,720
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1546
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 2: The one thing I would say, not really. I mean,

1547
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 2: I'm in Nashville, so and I've covered the SEC for

1548
01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 2: a very very long time, just like you have, Ryan,

1549
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:10,720
Speaker 2: and I think it's unthinkable that either Georgia or Alabama

1550
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:13,439
Speaker 2: one would not be in the College Football Playoff. I

1551
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 2: read David ub And just a few minutes ago, suggest

1552
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 2: that they have to be out, that it has to

1553
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 2: be these undefeateds, and it has to be Texas because

1554
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:24,800
Speaker 2: they beat Alabama. What chance do you give it that

1555
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:27,599
Speaker 2: they're well and there.

1556
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 9: Is a percentage? Okay? What if Alabama would have called

1557
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 9: Texas like Georgia did Oklahoma and said, you know what, Texas,

1558
01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:36,200
Speaker 9: we're gonna be breaking in the quarterback. We're going to

1559
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 9: cancel this game. We're just gonna buy you guys out,

1560
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 9: and let's schedule Bowling Green or somebody else. Does that

1561
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 9: mean the same, because you know, we've watched teams do that.

1562
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 9: We've watched them done. So when you think about Alabama,

1563
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:52,840
Speaker 9: no doubt the.

1564
01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:53,719
Speaker 8: Case is there.

1565
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:57,839
Speaker 9: Do I think you know it's probably sixty forty, maybe

1566
01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 9: you know seventy thirty. It all pants.

1567
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 8: But if you had.

1568
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:05,679
Speaker 9: Football coaches on that committee, and I look at Jim Grove,

1569
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 9: I think about you know Shields, so the Outland Trophy winner.

1570
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:14,680
Speaker 9: Those are football minds. I think we need more of that.

1571
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 9: Do you really think these ads could break down a

1572
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 9: cover two defense?

1573
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 6: Well?

1574
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 1: Ran one in a football coach, say you played every

1575
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:25,639
Speaker 1: game on your schedule, you deserve a shot to compete

1576
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 1: for a championship.

1577
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,759
Speaker 9: Yeah, and I think that's the case, you know, when

1578
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 9: you look at those coaches. But but I think that

1579
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 9: also we cannot forget that this is about TV. Okay,

1580
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:39,759
Speaker 9: we cannot forget take and I just heard your Michigan

1581
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 9: interviewed a couple of minutes ago. Matchup Michigan and Florida State.

1582
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 9: Is that gonna draw ratings? Is that gonna Because we

1583
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 9: always have to remember, even though we try to pretend

1584
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 9: that it's about this, it's about money. Why don't we

1585
01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 9: going to twelve teams? We don't need twelve teams. It's

1586
01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 9: about money, about money, We're going to twelve simply because

1587
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:02,599
Speaker 9: the fight and the presidents tell us that, right, because

1588
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 9: they jumped in when the when the ads and the

1589
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 9: commissioners couldn't get it right, the president jumped in, some guys,

1590
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 9: we're going to twelve teams. You guys will have to

1591
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 9: debate how we get there, but we're going to twelve teams.

1592
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 9: They needed the money. They financially, they needed that, you

1593
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 9: know that security blanket. So when you when you back

1594
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 9: up a couple of minutes, if it truly is about

1595
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 9: the best teams, and put the best teams in there,

1596
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:26,080
Speaker 9: put it right in there.

1597
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 2: So Ryan, if that's the case, this is just playing

1598
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 2: devil's advocate more than anything, because I see your point.

1599
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 2: George is one of the four best teams in my

1600
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:34,720
Speaker 2: opinion too.

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01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:37,639
Speaker 13: I agree, I totally agree.

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01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:39,640
Speaker 9: And and that's the Committee's.

1603
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 8: Number one team.

1604
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 10: Fair enough.

1605
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 9: I mean we've heard it other than one week, and

1606
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 9: I still think they were setting it up because I

1607
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 9: think they thought this day was coming. When when When

1608
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:51,599
Speaker 9: when they didn't have George at that number one spot

1609
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:52,639
Speaker 9: for that one week?

1610
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 14: I said, Oh, okay, okay, So the committee, you know,

1611
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 14: you think about some of the things that they kind

1612
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:02,880
Speaker 14: of projected, whether it was their love for Oregon and

1613
01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 14: you know last night that was chaos.

1614
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 1: How about never moving Alabama ahead of Texas even though

1615
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 1: they've had a better resume for weekend?

1616
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 9: Absolutely this And so we heard had to head head

1617
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:13,639
Speaker 9: to head, head to head. I mean that came out

1618
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:15,559
Speaker 9: of Boo's mouth, right, I Mean he said it on

1619
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 9: these teleconferences that I've been a part of every Tuesday.

1620
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:20,519
Speaker 9: He kept saying, you know, head to head matters, head

1621
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 9: to head matters. Okay, Alabama just beat the number one

1622
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 9: team in the country. And they've also not just beat

1623
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:28,680
Speaker 9: your number one team, They beat multiple teams in your

1624
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:31,440
Speaker 9: top fifteen, and we don't know what tomorrow.

1625
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:32,759
Speaker 8: Is going to bring as far as the rankings.

1626
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 9: So either you believe in your rankings and you do

1627
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:38,240
Speaker 9: think that George is the best team, and you give

1628
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:42,559
Speaker 9: Alabama you know that credit Texas to me, and I'm

1629
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 9: not one of those that's going to discount Texas. Texas

1630
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:47,680
Speaker 9: came to tusklusive, they beat.

1631
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:48,920
Speaker 8: Alabama on their campus.

1632
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:53,639
Speaker 9: The Alabama was still finding their way regardless Texas. I'm

1633
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 9: not arguing against Texas because they came to tuscaloosis and

1634
01:19:57,240 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 9: I don't think Also, when you talk about scheduling games Texas,

1635
01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:02,880
Speaker 9: you got to give them credit for that.

1636
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:05,480
Speaker 8: I mean, they came to Tusca looser.

1637
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 9: They beat Alabama here comfortably, you give them credit. I

1638
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 9: also think Texas at loss against Oklahoma. Don't let Chris

1639
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 9: flitchare this But is that a good loss?

1640
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 2: Ryan?

1641
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 1: We gotta wrap unfortune. That's a good question to end

1642
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:25,559
Speaker 1: on though we got one one sentence answer on one

1643
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:27,919
Speaker 1: word answer, is Alabama in or not tomorrow?

1644
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 9: I'm gonna say yes because I think the committee will

1645
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:33,800
Speaker 9: do the right thing, and I think they'll put Alabama in.

1646
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 9: If not, we'll all laugh and we'll watch it, but

1647
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 9: the ratings will be awful.

1648
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 1: Ryan, thank you for your time. Jason Martin and I

1649
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 1: will be back. We'll talk more college football. Fox Sports Radio.

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01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:52,760
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Speaker 1: college football, been a tough night for you. We've talked

1658
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 1: basically wall to wall college football. As the SEGA just

1659
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:24,719
Speaker 1: told you, all of the games are final of most

1660
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:28,240
Speaker 1: note late in the evening, Florida State does win the

1661
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:32,080
Speaker 1: ACC Championship, meaning they finished thirteen to oh and the

1662
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 1: big debate for most of the night seems to be

1663
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:37,320
Speaker 1: a thirteen and oh Florida State team against a twelve

1664
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 1: to one Alabama as an SEC champ. Of course, Alabama

1665
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 1: would get the nod or excuse me, Alabama would be

1666
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:49,040
Speaker 1: behind the two undefeated conference champions Michigan and Washington and Texas,

1667
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:50,880
Speaker 1: who they have the head to head loss to. By

1668
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Speaker 1: It'll be available shortly after the show. We took your calls.

1671
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 1: We've talked about this from all angles, Jason. We'll get

1672
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:03,960
Speaker 1: to the NFL here in just a little bit, but

1673
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 1: we got to put a bow on this. It is

1674
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:09,920
Speaker 1: a conversation every sports fan in America is having over

1675
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:13,280
Speaker 1: drinks at every bar in America, and it's on the

1676
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:17,639
Speaker 1: It's the topic that everybody wants to discuss. Alabama twelve

1677
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 1: and one, Florida State now officially thirteen and oh, and

1678
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:26,599
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a conversation that there's been a lot

1679
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:28,800
Speaker 1: of years, Jason, where there hasn't been much. You know,

1680
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:31,839
Speaker 1: there really hasn't been much for the committee to debate.

1681
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 1: I think there's been several years where it feels like

1682
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:37,599
Speaker 1: we almost make up a story at the end just

1683
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:41,960
Speaker 1: to try to create controversy or a narrative. This year,

1684
01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:45,799
Speaker 1: it feels like there is a very strong a debate

1685
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 1: going on really between that thirteen and oh Florida State

1686
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:50,599
Speaker 1: team and a twelve and one Alabama team.

1687
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:53,639
Speaker 2: So what's interesting. I just sent you a text about

1688
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:59,639
Speaker 2: this actually watching who has been more right in terms

1689
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:01,640
Speaker 2: of the way they've predicted this and just seems to

1690
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:04,240
Speaker 2: kind of be more on the inside of these discussions.

1691
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 2: Heather Dennich just put up her final list of what

1692
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 2: she is anticipating, and she's got Georgia five, Florida State six, Washington.

1693
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:20,759
Speaker 2: I don't believe Sabama, Georgia, FSU and with the idea

1694
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:23,720
Speaker 2: that if that room believes george is one of the

1695
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 2: four best teams, they can find a way to get

1696
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 2: them in as well. I don't think that will happen.

1697
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:31,760
Speaker 2: I did tell you though, when you asked, I said,

1698
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 2: I think I'd put Georgia ahead of FSU right now.

1699
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 2: And that's actually what she thinks will happen.

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01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:43,400
Speaker 1: So Georgia with a loss, while Florida State's undefeated and

1701
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:49,120
Speaker 1: they're not a Power Conference champion. Yeah, so it's just

1702
01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 1: based on the eye test.

1703
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:52,320
Speaker 2: Let me ask you, I mean, I mean, do you

1704
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:53,800
Speaker 2: think george is one of the four best teams in

1705
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 2: the country.

1706
01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 1: I actually don't think it's definitive that George is one

1707
01:23:57,400 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 1: of the four best teams. Let me explain why. First

1708
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:03,439
Speaker 1: of all, they're not better than Alabama. I would certainly

1709
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 1: not not argue that they're better than Texas because Texas

1710
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:11,160
Speaker 1: beat Alabama. Texas looks awesome. And I think it's debatable

1711
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 1: with Michigan and Washington, and then that becomes the that

1712
01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:19,120
Speaker 1: becomes the deserving versus best, and I think that Michigan

1713
01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 1: has a better resume. I don't think you can put

1714
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 1: them in. I don't think you can. I don't think

1715
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:27,360
Speaker 1: after what I just saw from Washington against a really

1716
01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 1: good Oregon team on Saturday, on Friday night of neutral Field,

1717
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:32,080
Speaker 1: I don't think that I can sit there and say

1718
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 1: they're definitively better than Washington. And I don't think I

1719
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 1: could sit there and say they're definitively better than Michigan.

1720
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:38,599
Speaker 2: I just can't, I know, I don't. I mean well,

1721
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:41,760
Speaker 2: I mean I think wait, I can say they're better

1722
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:44,120
Speaker 2: than Washington. It's gonna beat Georgia. And these are all

1723
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:46,360
Speaker 2: hypotheticals now, and this is not how this needs to

1724
01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 2: be factored in. We just having fun with it at

1725
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 2: this stage. I think Georgia would be Washington and I

1726
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:56,559
Speaker 2: think Georgia would beat Michigan personally. Now, one thing I

1727
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:58,920
Speaker 2: don't have sympathy for, and luckily I really haven't seen

1728
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:02,880
Speaker 2: much of this today. Bowers was hurt, McConkie was hurt.

1729
01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:05,759
Speaker 2: No one's going to give Georgia sympathy for that, considering

1730
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 2: that the way some people believe that they started this

1731
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:13,800
Speaker 2: dynasty was beating a Bama team that lost Jamison Williams

1732
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 2: and Mechi in back to back games and they didn't

1733
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:20,080
Speaker 2: have their top two targets at all, and these guys

1734
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:21,760
Speaker 2: at least gutted it out, which may have been a

1735
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:24,400
Speaker 2: mistake honestly for Georgia. I actually felt that was an

1736
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:26,599
Speaker 2: interesting point made in the telecast. We haven't talked about

1737
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 2: the games at all because we've been talking about the scenarios.

1738
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 2: But do you think McConkie and Bowers were giving it

1739
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 2: there all? But they clearly weren't themselves. Maybe you pull

1740
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:40,680
Speaker 2: the other guys that you've recruited and let them go

1741
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:42,680
Speaker 2: out there for at least a driver or two to

1742
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 2: see what they can do, because I understand, you know,

1743
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:48,439
Speaker 2: those guys want to gut it out, and many props

1744
01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 2: to them for doing it. But was that your best

1745
01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 2: chance to win against Alabama. I'm not sure it was.

1746
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:57,400
Speaker 1: Well, I know it's irrelevant to the conversation because I

1747
01:25:57,439 --> 01:25:59,280
Speaker 1: don't think George is getting in, although it is worth

1748
01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:01,640
Speaker 1: noting Kirby's did go to the podium and make the

1749
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:04,680
Speaker 1: argument that you just made Jason of the committee and

1750
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 1: by the way, the argument that Ryan Fowler made as

1751
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:10,080
Speaker 1: it pertained to Alabama, which is, the committee has told

1752
01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 1: us that the four best teams are supposed to be

1753
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 1: the one selected, and Kirby smart made the argument that

1754
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:16,160
Speaker 1: were one of the four best. But if Bowers isn't

1755
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:18,559
Speaker 1: one hundred percent, if Mkakey isn't one hundred percent, and

1756
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:20,559
Speaker 1: I know they could be in theory though they definitely

1757
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:24,760
Speaker 1: they yeah, they'd be more healthy in a month. I

1758
01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:28,000
Speaker 1: think that hurts him. I don't think I don't think

1759
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:31,639
Speaker 1: it's clear that Georgia is one of the By the way,

1760
01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:33,880
Speaker 1: maybe this is a conversation we should be having. And

1761
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 1: and I don't mean to diminish you or Heather Dinnit

1762
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:40,720
Speaker 1: or anybody, but I will say I don't think there's

1763
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:43,719
Speaker 1: an argument. But Kirby certainly tried to make the argument.

1764
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:47,640
Speaker 1: But I, like I said, I can't sit there and

1765
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 1: say that they're certainly not better than Alabama. I don't

1766
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:53,200
Speaker 1: think you could say that they're better than Texas because

1767
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:57,120
Speaker 1: Texas beat Alabama, and I guess from my perspective, I

1768
01:26:57,280 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 1: just kind of believe that. I just I don't think

1769
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:05,559
Speaker 1: that there's enough tangible proof other than the eye test,

1770
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:08,880
Speaker 1: which is not supposed to matter, that they're better than

1771
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 1: Michigan Washington. By the way, I disagree on Washington because

1772
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 1: I thought coming into this weekend, the three most just

1773
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:17,840
Speaker 1: physical teams that want to beat the crap out of

1774
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 1: you are coming into the weekend were Georgia, Michigan, and Oregon.

1775
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:25,840
Speaker 1: And Washington went toe for toe with Oregon, and so

1776
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:30,720
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to say that Washington would not beat Georgia.

1777
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 2: Here's the thing about that. I understand that point. I

1778
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:37,000
Speaker 2: was watching that game and loved it, and I love

1779
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 2: this final season of Pac twelve football. There was a

1780
01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 2: lot to enjoy here, and it was it was a

1781
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 2: high note for that conference to go out on a

1782
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:47,799
Speaker 2: lot of what we saw both of those two teams

1783
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 2: do was against that conference, and that gets into the

1784
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:55,200
Speaker 2: idea of, well, how good was that conference? Outside of that.

1785
01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:57,200
Speaker 1: Go oh, wait a second, Now, hold on now one second,

1786
01:27:57,240 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 1: because if you're going to make that argument for any conference,

1787
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:03,719
Speaker 1: couldn't you make it about the SEC where Alabama lost

1788
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:06,360
Speaker 1: to Texas, uls you lost to Florida State.

1789
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 2: Where's the thing? Yes, you could except that history is

1790
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:11,559
Speaker 2: a guide.

1791
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:14,559
Speaker 1: But history can't be a guide, Jason, this is its

1792
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 1: own individual year.

1793
01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:19,880
Speaker 2: The PAC twelve. We've seen this Oregon. You know, Oregon

1794
01:28:19,880 --> 01:28:21,880
Speaker 2: will show up and then get beat in a in

1795
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:23,760
Speaker 2: a playoff game. Or how many times the.

1796
01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:26,160
Speaker 1: Big tenne the playoffs since the first.

1797
01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:29,200
Speaker 2: Year or the well, I'm just talking about like overall examples,

1798
01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:31,799
Speaker 2: the Big Ten shows them in the college football playoff

1799
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:33,320
Speaker 2: a lot of times gets beat.

1800
01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:37,120
Speaker 1: Ohio State played Georgia, anybody in the SEC has. Besides that,

1801
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:37,920
Speaker 1: the Big.

1802
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:40,840
Speaker 2: Ten, like the Big Ten basketball, gets overseated. It seems

1803
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:43,479
Speaker 2: like an NCAA tournament because they are playing each other

1804
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:45,400
Speaker 2: and then they get into the tournament and a lot

1805
01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:48,840
Speaker 2: of them tend to lose in those games. Like I guess,

1806
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:51,240
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm saying it's not just cut and dry

1807
01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:54,160
Speaker 2: that I think Washington is super physical because of what

1808
01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:56,960
Speaker 2: I saw them do, because after they played Oregon, they

1809
01:28:56,960 --> 01:29:00,240
Speaker 2: didn't look very good for about a month and they

1810
01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:02,680
Speaker 2: got a little bit healthier at the right time, and

1811
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:05,920
Speaker 2: they did show that they had that first month in

1812
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:08,719
Speaker 2: them again and they were able to pull that back out.

1813
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:12,640
Speaker 2: But I think it's a bridge too far for me

1814
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:15,599
Speaker 2: to look at Washington and say that George is not better.

1815
01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 2: I will give you this. I want to throw this

1816
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:20,519
Speaker 2: out there, just because we haven't mentioned the direct quote here.

1817
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:25,479
Speaker 2: So the College Football Playoff executive director said this earlier

1818
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 2: this week, and they have said this all season long.

1819
01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:32,599
Speaker 2: This is a quote. Most deserving is not anything in

1820
01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:36,120
Speaker 2: the committee's lexicon. They are to rank the best teams

1821
01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:39,000
Speaker 2: in order, and that's what they do. Just keep that

1822
01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:44,680
Speaker 2: word in mind, best teams, unquote. And I saw Ari

1823
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:47,640
Speaker 2: Washerman say basically what that means is they can do

1824
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:50,040
Speaker 2: whatever they want and justify it however they see fit.

1825
01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:55,080
Speaker 2: I don't right or wrong. They have harped on best

1826
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:57,320
Speaker 2: right a lot.

1827
01:29:57,840 --> 01:30:00,879
Speaker 1: Well, and I think they are doing that in the scenario.

1828
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:02,439
Speaker 2: And you know, listen Florida.

1829
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:04,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was gonna say one thing we've learned

1830
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:09,240
Speaker 1: about the committee. Everything they do is purposeful, and they

1831
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:13,439
Speaker 1: do things. They've set things up in such a way

1832
01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:17,120
Speaker 1: that like basically, I don't know how to say this properly,

1833
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:19,680
Speaker 1: but like, basically, they set things up in such a

1834
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:22,680
Speaker 1: way where it creates like the least amount of controversy

1835
01:30:22,720 --> 01:30:27,320
Speaker 1: in the moment, hoping that something will happen so they

1836
01:30:27,320 --> 01:30:31,160
Speaker 1: can avoid the controversy right, Like as an example, like

1837
01:30:31,240 --> 01:30:33,640
Speaker 1: they dropped Michigan a few weeks ago, but it was

1838
01:30:33,680 --> 01:30:35,600
Speaker 1: like they knew Michigan's gonna play Ohio State. So if

1839
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:38,320
Speaker 1: Michigan beats Ohio State, then who cares? Right, So it's like,

1840
01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:42,840
Speaker 1: so I do think, I do think the messaging is

1841
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:45,800
Speaker 1: very interesting, and I actually agree. I agree with you

1842
01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:48,080
Speaker 1: is that I think they were setting themselves up for

1843
01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 1: this exact scenario. What if Alabama wins, what if Texas

1844
01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:54,000
Speaker 1: wins and looks good, and what if Florida State wins

1845
01:30:54,040 --> 01:30:57,640
Speaker 1: and looks bad? And so I am just here to

1846
01:30:57,680 --> 01:31:00,720
Speaker 1: say I don't know what they're gonna do. Nobody knows

1847
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:02,600
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do. I'll say this, I bet for

1848
01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:04,840
Speaker 1: the first time, I don't know if these committee members.

1849
01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:06,360
Speaker 1: I think some of them stay for a year. I

1850
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:08,920
Speaker 1: don't think they stay long long for like seven eight years.

1851
01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:10,360
Speaker 1: But I think there's some of them that have been

1852
01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:12,920
Speaker 1: on the committee in previous years. I don't think the

1853
01:31:12,960 --> 01:31:16,560
Speaker 1: committee knows right now what they're gonna do, because I

1854
01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:19,519
Speaker 1: think it's a real debate, and I, you know, we

1855
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:22,200
Speaker 1: could sit here and you know you and I I've

1856
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:23,360
Speaker 1: been a blast with you for the last two and

1857
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:25,400
Speaker 1: a half hours in disager and Pat and Lorraine and

1858
01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:28,919
Speaker 1: all our callers and everybody. But like, what it ultimately

1859
01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:31,880
Speaker 1: comes down to is is the committee going to do

1860
01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:34,080
Speaker 1: exactly what you just said, Jason? Are they going to

1861
01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:37,280
Speaker 1: put the four best teams in? And when I say

1862
01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:40,960
Speaker 1: for best, I don't think that includes George. I bet

1863
01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:44,519
Speaker 1: the best would in this scenario would be Alabama over

1864
01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:45,080
Speaker 1: Florida State.

1865
01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:47,040
Speaker 2: Well who do you think the four best? I'm just

1866
01:31:47,080 --> 01:31:49,960
Speaker 2: asking you now for a personal opinion. Okay, Well, who

1867
01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:52,120
Speaker 2: do you think the four best teams in the country are?

1868
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:55,879
Speaker 2: I think so lot most deserving.

1869
01:31:56,040 --> 01:32:01,080
Speaker 1: Okay, So I think in evaluating best you have to

1870
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:05,040
Speaker 1: evaluate a number of different factors because eye tests can't

1871
01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:08,120
Speaker 1: only be it. Because I don't know that Georgia is

1872
01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:11,120
Speaker 1: one of the four best because they lost the biggest

1873
01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:12,840
Speaker 1: game on their schedule. So I would say the four

1874
01:32:12,920 --> 01:32:15,800
Speaker 1: best are the four teams that I think I don't

1875
01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:17,080
Speaker 1: want say the majority, but a lot of people think

1876
01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:19,400
Speaker 1: are gonna make it. I think the four best right

1877
01:32:19,439 --> 01:32:24,120
Speaker 1: now are in some order Michigan, Washington, Alabama, and Texas.

1878
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:27,759
Speaker 1: Florida State certainly is not I would not put in Georgia.

1879
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:29,320
Speaker 1: By the way, to Sega wants to jump in just

1880
01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:30,360
Speaker 1: to saga the floors doors.

1881
01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:33,599
Speaker 5: And you were mentioning the committee. I gotta mention, especially

1882
01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:36,240
Speaker 5: after the interview at the end of last hour, there

1883
01:32:36,320 --> 01:32:41,120
Speaker 5: was the implication that bou Corgan, as an acc athletic

1884
01:32:41,160 --> 01:32:45,240
Speaker 5: director at NC State, is somehow impartial, I mean not impartial.

1885
01:32:46,360 --> 01:32:48,920
Speaker 5: You could make the same argument because he could benefit

1886
01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:52,479
Speaker 5: financially from his somebody, you know, because they divide. Maybe

1887
01:32:52,520 --> 01:32:55,439
Speaker 5: people don't know this. When somebody from your conference gets

1888
01:32:55,479 --> 01:32:58,720
Speaker 5: in a big game, the money gets divided. Everybody in

1889
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:02,240
Speaker 5: your conference gets a piece of it. If that's your argument,

1890
01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:04,920
Speaker 5: then you also need to say, and by the way,

1891
01:33:05,040 --> 01:33:08,000
Speaker 5: somebody from the SEC, one of their ads is also

1892
01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:12,000
Speaker 5: on this committee, and they might be therefore motivated to

1893
01:33:12,040 --> 01:33:15,120
Speaker 5: have two SEC teams out of the four and really

1894
01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:18,559
Speaker 5: benefit financially. But that didn't get said, and instead you're

1895
01:33:18,640 --> 01:33:20,880
Speaker 5: kind of swiping the name of a guy who we

1896
01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:22,880
Speaker 5: don't know is guilty of this type of thing.

1897
01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:25,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the thing is too, like you, these guys,

1898
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:28,400
Speaker 1: guys and girls in theory are supposed to recuse themselves.

1899
01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:32,240
Speaker 5: They do get recused if your specific school or even

1900
01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:35,200
Speaker 5: if you're still getting payouts from a school is involved

1901
01:33:35,240 --> 01:33:38,599
Speaker 5: in discussion. If Jennifer Cohen was still getting paid by Washington,

1902
01:33:38,680 --> 01:33:40,839
Speaker 5: she would have to leave the room when they talk Washington.

1903
01:33:40,880 --> 01:33:42,680
Speaker 1: What I was just going to say, though, ultimately, first

1904
01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:44,759
Speaker 1: of all, Ryan's an SEC guy. He's going to defend

1905
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:47,479
Speaker 1: the SEC. But what I was going to say in

1906
01:33:47,520 --> 01:33:50,720
Speaker 1: general is Boo Corgan doesn't have any more say than

1907
01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:54,280
Speaker 1: anything exactly. He's just the guy they have to have

1908
01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:57,360
Speaker 1: a guy or girl every year speak to the media.

1909
01:33:57,400 --> 01:33:59,679
Speaker 5: He's a chairman, he doesn't have two votes, he doesn't

1910
01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:04,360
Speaker 5: have toteen votes. And also absolutely it's about TV ratings

1911
01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:06,920
Speaker 5: and money and that's why they're expanding in all of that.

1912
01:34:07,439 --> 01:34:10,479
Speaker 5: But you can't then say the sentence Michigan against so

1913
01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:12,519
Speaker 5: and so, what kind of TV ratings is that going

1914
01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:12,800
Speaker 5: to get?

1915
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:13,080
Speaker 1: Well?

1916
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:17,040
Speaker 5: Last year Michigan semi final with TCU for crying out loud,

1917
01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:20,720
Speaker 5: I've got better TV ratings than Georgia against TCU in

1918
01:34:20,800 --> 01:34:22,200
Speaker 5: the National Championship.

1919
01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:24,320
Speaker 1: That's a great call. That's a great call now, And

1920
01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:25,320
Speaker 1: that might.

1921
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:27,759
Speaker 2: Be because they thought TCU could beat Michigan and people

1922
01:34:27,760 --> 01:34:31,120
Speaker 2: thought Georgia was gonna win sixty five to three. I'm

1923
01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:33,120
Speaker 2: not saying that's a good argument. I know what you're saying.

1924
01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:33,479
Speaker 2: I agree.

1925
01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:36,559
Speaker 5: I'm just saying finals usually get better ratings than semis.

1926
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:38,439
Speaker 5: This was notable that it did not.

1927
01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:43,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, and I I still don't know where I stand.

1928
01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:46,559
Speaker 1: But no, it's a good point to Seger. Yeah, I

1929
01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:47,679
Speaker 1: just think it's an interesting debate.

1930
01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:50,320
Speaker 2: So I also, wait a second, does the final if

1931
01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:53,920
Speaker 2: it's closer because we taken name into account, the fact

1932
01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:58,240
Speaker 2: that Michigan TCU game was crazy good and like how

1933
01:34:58,360 --> 01:35:01,400
Speaker 2: long it was competitive, and comebacks along the way, and

1934
01:35:01,439 --> 01:35:06,880
Speaker 2: the dramas no drama in georget.

1935
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:07,559
Speaker 1: Me even jump let me even jump in.

1936
01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:10,280
Speaker 5: You also need the eyeballs at the beginning of the game.

1937
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:12,960
Speaker 1: But let me even jump in on that point though,

1938
01:35:13,280 --> 01:35:16,960
Speaker 1: because I think, and I could be wrong, I think

1939
01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:19,559
Speaker 1: there's so much talk about well, it's a TV product

1940
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:22,920
Speaker 1: and that's all they care about. Remember, guys, people forget

1941
01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:26,799
Speaker 1: this TCU did not win the Big twelve last.

1942
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:29,080
Speaker 5: Year and did not drop out of the top four and.

1943
01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:31,680
Speaker 1: Did not drop out of the top four member. It

1944
01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:36,320
Speaker 1: was really we found out Alabama. So if you remember,

1945
01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:40,719
Speaker 1: Alabama was not eleven, ten and two because they didn't

1946
01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:42,640
Speaker 1: play in the conference championship. And it was around this

1947
01:35:42,720 --> 01:35:45,080
Speaker 1: time that Nick Saban was going on every TV show.

1948
01:35:45,479 --> 01:35:47,880
Speaker 1: Well you know, I mean if you lined us, the

1949
01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:50,760
Speaker 1: odds makers would make us a favorite over everybody. And

1950
01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:53,280
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, I didn't know, you know, Nikki two

1951
01:35:53,320 --> 01:35:55,200
Speaker 1: stacks over here, all of a sudden, it was a

1952
01:35:55,200 --> 01:36:00,200
Speaker 1: gambling insider. So that was one. But I don't I

1953
01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:04,760
Speaker 1: don't buy that the committee picks teams based on the

1954
01:36:04,760 --> 01:36:06,559
Speaker 1: best TV product. I don't because they would have put

1955
01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:09,519
Speaker 1: in Alabama last year instead of TCU in the first place.

1956
01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:12,599
Speaker 1: So I don't buy that that is a reason that

1957
01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:15,120
Speaker 1: Florida State will not get in. And now, if you

1958
01:36:15,160 --> 01:36:17,360
Speaker 1: want to argue it will be a bad TV product

1959
01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:20,479
Speaker 1: because they are the inferior team, that's a lot different.

1960
01:36:20,479 --> 01:36:23,880
Speaker 1: But remember TCU was not a conference champion last year,

1961
01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:25,920
Speaker 1: and the committee did not have to put them in,

1962
01:36:25,960 --> 01:36:29,040
Speaker 1: and they decided and had no history. I had no history. Yeah,

1963
01:36:29,200 --> 01:36:32,760
Speaker 1: so I tell you what, you know, what what what

1964
01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:34,680
Speaker 1: time is it? To saga? Is it is it? Is

1965
01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:36,960
Speaker 1: it noon eastern? Or is it one eastern that they

1966
01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:39,880
Speaker 1: announced eastern? All right, the show starts. Yeah, so we

1967
01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:42,280
Speaker 1: have what four to little under fourteen hours?

1968
01:36:42,720 --> 01:36:42,920
Speaker 2: Uh?

1969
01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:45,360
Speaker 1: This no, no, no, a little under eleven hours? Excuse me?

1970
01:36:45,400 --> 01:36:48,000
Speaker 1: And this will all be settled once and for.

1971
01:36:48,200 --> 01:36:50,559
Speaker 5: Some sort of history is gonna happen because the number

1972
01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:52,880
Speaker 5: one team in the next to last ratings has never

1973
01:36:52,960 --> 01:36:56,080
Speaker 5: fallen completely out of the top four. And also an

1974
01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:59,400
Speaker 5: undefeated Power five conference team has never been left out.

1975
01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:01,519
Speaker 2: Of the PUS A discussion left out, that's right, And

1976
01:37:01,520 --> 01:37:03,280
Speaker 2: that's a discussion we haven't had to either. It's like,

1977
01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:07,400
Speaker 2: what's the best loss of the year? And that does

1978
01:37:07,439 --> 01:37:10,639
Speaker 2: that count at all at this point? Like maybe it doesn't,

1979
01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:12,200
Speaker 2: but I mean the best loss of the year is

1980
01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:16,240
Speaker 2: a Georgia team that was hampered injuries losing by a

1981
01:37:16,280 --> 01:37:19,479
Speaker 2: field goal to an Alabama team like a shoe in.

1982
01:37:19,680 --> 01:37:23,599
Speaker 1: But if you're arguing about injuries, then if you're saying, well, injuries, well,

1983
01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:25,400
Speaker 1: I mean, doesn't Jordan Travis come in or I guess

1984
01:37:25,400 --> 01:37:25,959
Speaker 1: he wanted.

1985
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:28,280
Speaker 5: About the Texas thousand yard running back who they haven't

1986
01:37:28,320 --> 01:37:29,639
Speaker 5: had and they're still winning games.

1987
01:37:29,720 --> 01:37:29,960
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1988
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:32,760
Speaker 2: No, again, there's there's there's arguments to be made everywhere.

1989
01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:35,400
Speaker 2: Luckily we only get about a day and then we

1990
01:37:35,439 --> 01:37:38,240
Speaker 2: find good and then we could just be mad whatever

1991
01:37:38,320 --> 01:37:39,280
Speaker 2: team gets left out.

1992
01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:41,280
Speaker 1: The one thing I will say, and Jason, you and

1993
01:37:41,360 --> 01:37:43,799
Speaker 1: I can disagree on this, it's fine. Last year, I remember,

1994
01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:45,760
Speaker 1: for some reason you were not available for this show

1995
01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:50,680
Speaker 1: and Arnie span your field in and Arnie said Alabama

1996
01:37:50,720 --> 01:37:54,479
Speaker 1: deserves to be in, and he couldn't make the argument

1997
01:37:54,600 --> 01:37:58,320
Speaker 1: for anything other than their Alabama. I said, well, wait

1998
01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:02,080
Speaker 1: a second, now, they have fewer losses than TCU. Hey,

1999
01:38:02,120 --> 01:38:04,360
Speaker 1: well you know what I mean. But Alabama lost two

2000
01:38:04,439 --> 01:38:06,640
Speaker 1: close games. Well, TCU lost on the final play of

2001
01:38:06,640 --> 01:38:09,040
Speaker 1: the game in the Big twelve championship game, so TCU

2002
01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:13,640
Speaker 1: is not a conference champion. Fewer losses, close losses. And

2003
01:38:13,800 --> 01:38:16,599
Speaker 1: his default was, well, I mean they're Alabama, of course

2004
01:38:16,600 --> 01:38:18,840
Speaker 1: they should be in. I bring it up because that's

2005
01:38:18,920 --> 01:38:22,000
Speaker 1: essentially Georgia's argument. This year, there is no argument other

2006
01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:24,240
Speaker 1: than well they're Georgia. I mean, you have to play,

2007
01:38:24,240 --> 01:38:25,840
Speaker 1: you have to at least consider them. No, you don't.

2008
01:38:26,200 --> 01:38:28,160
Speaker 1: They didn't win their conference. They lost their biggest game

2009
01:38:28,160 --> 01:38:30,880
Speaker 1: of the year. I'm sorry, like it sucks. Win the

2010
01:38:30,880 --> 01:38:32,639
Speaker 1: game and then we don't have this big Which gets

2011
01:38:32,640 --> 01:38:36,560
Speaker 1: to my original point four years, not this year. Four years,

2012
01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:39,519
Speaker 1: is that the college football playoffs should always have been

2013
01:38:39,680 --> 01:38:43,840
Speaker 1: six teams for two reasons. One, we have five power conferences.

2014
01:38:44,160 --> 01:38:47,240
Speaker 1: Second is there should be a reward for having a

2015
01:38:47,240 --> 01:38:50,240
Speaker 1: great regular season. Therefore, the top two teams would have

2016
01:38:50,320 --> 01:38:52,880
Speaker 1: a first round off and then it would be three

2017
01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:55,479
Speaker 1: through six. At least that's one thing they're getting to

2018
01:38:55,600 --> 01:38:58,679
Speaker 1: with this expand to twelve and not sixteen. By the way,

2019
01:38:59,080 --> 01:39:01,880
Speaker 1: the top four we'll get the first round. Yes, and

2020
01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:05,839
Speaker 1: that still values the conference championship, which values the conference

2021
01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:06,759
Speaker 1: championship game.

2022
01:39:06,720 --> 01:39:08,320
Speaker 5: And the regular season by extension.

2023
01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:10,560
Speaker 1: Yes, And I think that's important because I've seen a

2024
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:12,800
Speaker 1: lot of people. I mean, the confence championship games mean nothing.

2025
01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:16,240
Speaker 1: They won't mean Alabama Georgia won't mean what it did today,

2026
01:39:16,760 --> 01:39:19,320
Speaker 1: but it will still have importance going forward. So tell

2027
01:39:19,360 --> 01:39:22,360
Speaker 1: you what, guys, incredible conversation. It's been an incredible two

2028
01:39:22,439 --> 01:39:24,880
Speaker 1: and a half hours. We're gonna come back, and when

2029
01:39:24,920 --> 01:39:27,639
Speaker 1: we come back, we'll go ahead and we'll actually, Jason,

2030
01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:29,640
Speaker 1: we'll talk about this little thing called the NFL. I

2031
01:39:29,640 --> 01:39:31,200
Speaker 1: don't know if anyone's ever heard of it, but there's

2032
01:39:31,240 --> 01:39:34,280
Speaker 1: some big games this weekend San Francisco, Philly, among others.

2033
01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:36,280
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Speaker 1: back and download the podcast. But we will get to

2040
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:58,479
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2041
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Speaker 1: Match Christmas music, I love it, man, It's a fun

2048
01:40:23,840 --> 01:40:27,040
Speaker 1: time of the year. I was in Kansas City this morning.

2049
01:40:27,080 --> 01:40:30,000
Speaker 1: It was like twelve degrees, but it felt like.

2050
01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:33,719
Speaker 2: Christmas to Kansas Yukon.

2051
01:40:34,160 --> 01:40:35,680
Speaker 1: I was at Kansas Yukon last night.

2052
01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:38,360
Speaker 2: That was a good ballgame. It's a nice comeback for

2053
01:40:38,439 --> 01:40:40,760
Speaker 2: Yukon to make it interesting, and then Kansas just kind

2054
01:40:40,760 --> 01:40:43,679
Speaker 2: of took it in the final, you know, eight nine

2055
01:40:43,720 --> 01:40:44,320
Speaker 2: minutes of it.

2056
01:40:44,600 --> 01:40:48,599
Speaker 1: I heard somebody describe it as like Kansas dominated like

2057
01:40:48,800 --> 01:40:51,519
Speaker 1: the first eight minutes, in the last two minutes, and

2058
01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:54,280
Speaker 1: everything in between was Yukon, and that was actually one

2059
01:40:54,280 --> 01:40:55,479
Speaker 1: thousand percent accurate.

2060
01:40:55,600 --> 01:40:57,599
Speaker 2: So yeah, I guess I said I gave him too

2061
01:40:57,640 --> 01:40:59,800
Speaker 2: much credit for how long they kind of dominated the

2062
01:40:59,840 --> 01:41:01,519
Speaker 2: end of it. No, they just kind of they just

2063
01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:03,280
Speaker 2: kind of had a little bit more in that final,

2064
01:41:03,560 --> 01:41:05,800
Speaker 2: like I would maybe say the last four minutes.

2065
01:41:05,840 --> 01:41:11,839
Speaker 1: But yeah, I will say this if anyone has the opportunity,

2066
01:41:11,880 --> 01:41:14,400
Speaker 1: I know, finances are always a thing. If your team

2067
01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:17,320
Speaker 1: plays at fog Allen Fieldhouse, just go it is. It

2068
01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:19,960
Speaker 1: was the coolest atmosphere ever. Now, it was a big game.

2069
01:41:19,960 --> 01:41:22,360
Speaker 1: I will admit that. Like Bill self even said after,

2070
01:41:22,400 --> 01:41:24,479
Speaker 1: He's like, that was one of the best atmospheres we've

2071
01:41:24,479 --> 01:41:27,200
Speaker 1: had here in a long time. So but incredible place

2072
01:41:27,280 --> 01:41:29,120
Speaker 1: to watch a game. I was in Casey this morning.

2073
01:41:29,120 --> 01:41:32,559
Speaker 1: I am back here and speaking of case they are

2074
01:41:32,600 --> 01:41:33,920
Speaker 1: part of some of the games that we want to

2075
01:41:33,960 --> 01:41:36,559
Speaker 1: preview today. So Lorraina, give us a little music, Pat,

2076
01:41:37,280 --> 01:41:39,400
Speaker 1: We're finally gonna talk a little NFL Pat. What is

2077
01:41:39,439 --> 01:41:41,040
Speaker 1: the first game we're previewing right now?

2078
01:41:41,560 --> 01:41:46,200
Speaker 7: Well, boys, we're gonna go into arguably probably the highlight

2079
01:41:46,240 --> 01:41:49,880
Speaker 7: of Sunday. We got the San Francisco forty nine ers

2080
01:41:50,240 --> 01:41:53,960
Speaker 7: taking on the fight in Philadelphia. Eagles and Boys, I'm

2081
01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:56,960
Speaker 7: gonna be real with you. Philly's home, but they are

2082
01:41:57,000 --> 01:41:59,880
Speaker 7: not the favorite on the line right now, San Francisco

2083
01:42:00,479 --> 01:42:03,439
Speaker 7: on the road. It's favored by three points. Let's start

2084
01:42:03,520 --> 01:42:09,080
Speaker 7: us off, Aaron, what do you think. I think it's

2085
01:42:09,160 --> 01:42:12,519
Speaker 7: kind of crazy that Philly is not favored. You know, listen,

2086
01:42:13,120 --> 01:42:16,280
Speaker 7: I get it. Every game is close, needed over time.

2087
01:42:16,320 --> 01:42:20,360
Speaker 7: Against Buffalo, they seemingly get out gained every single week.

2088
01:42:21,280 --> 01:42:24,240
Speaker 1: But they're at home, and I'm just done betting against them.

2089
01:42:24,240 --> 01:42:26,679
Speaker 1: Like Jason, I remember talking about this in like week four.

2090
01:42:27,080 --> 01:42:28,439
Speaker 1: It was like wow, you know, I mean, how much

2091
01:42:28,520 --> 01:42:30,559
Speaker 1: how long could they keep winning like this? You know,

2092
01:42:30,600 --> 01:42:32,600
Speaker 1: all these close games and they were like three and

2093
01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:35,000
Speaker 1: oh or three and one at the time, and they

2094
01:42:35,040 --> 01:42:37,920
Speaker 1: just keep winning them. And so I picked against them

2095
01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:40,000
Speaker 1: last week. They keep winning now because I'm picking them

2096
01:42:40,040 --> 01:42:42,479
Speaker 1: this week. They'll probably end up losing, but I will

2097
01:42:42,479 --> 01:42:46,200
Speaker 1: take Philadelphia to win obviously to cover, because they're at home,

2098
01:42:46,240 --> 01:42:48,439
Speaker 1: and they just keep winning all of these at some

2099
01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:51,240
Speaker 1: point winning close. It's almost like Washington football. At some

2100
01:42:51,320 --> 01:42:54,760
Speaker 1: point winning close games. It stopped being a coincidence and

2101
01:42:54,800 --> 01:42:57,080
Speaker 1: it just kind of becomes who you are. You're comfortable

2102
01:42:57,120 --> 01:42:59,719
Speaker 1: in those situations. Go ahead to give me the Philadelphia gave.

2103
01:43:00,240 --> 01:43:04,280
Speaker 2: You last week too, yeah, or last year? Also, well,

2104
01:43:04,400 --> 01:43:07,120
Speaker 2: look you have you had the Eagles from the NFC

2105
01:43:07,280 --> 01:43:09,840
Speaker 2: in your Super Bowl preseason, right? I did yet, and

2106
01:43:09,880 --> 01:43:12,880
Speaker 2: I had the Niners beating the the NFC Championship game.

2107
01:43:12,960 --> 01:43:14,720
Speaker 2: So here we go, and this is the game. This

2108
01:43:14,800 --> 01:43:17,559
Speaker 2: is this is just a phenomenal matchup. I can't wait

2109
01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:21,799
Speaker 2: to watch this thing. Hell boy, I think the Niners

2110
01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:24,440
Speaker 2: are going to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl.

2111
01:43:26,560 --> 01:43:29,120
Speaker 2: I don't know that they could go to Philadelphia and win, though.

2112
01:43:29,400 --> 01:43:33,080
Speaker 2: That's I'm gonna stick with you. I'm gonna stick with you.

2113
01:43:33,120 --> 01:43:34,800
Speaker 2: They're ten and one. The Eagles are ten and one.

2114
01:43:35,320 --> 01:43:37,200
Speaker 2: I just think that's a tough ask right now for

2115
01:43:37,240 --> 01:43:40,000
Speaker 2: the Niners, and because of brock Party specifically, I just

2116
01:43:40,080 --> 01:43:42,120
Speaker 2: I think hurts in this moment in front of his

2117
01:43:42,200 --> 01:43:45,120
Speaker 2: home crowd, he'll probably get a couple of toush pushes

2118
01:43:45,160 --> 01:43:46,519
Speaker 2: in there and that'll be enough.

2119
01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:49,120
Speaker 1: Very good, Pat, what's the next one up?

2120
01:43:49,280 --> 01:43:49,720
Speaker 5: All right?

2121
01:43:49,800 --> 01:43:52,280
Speaker 7: Well, Aaron, you mentioned Kansas City and you were even

2122
01:43:52,320 --> 01:43:55,639
Speaker 7: in Kansas City this morning. Well, we're gonna go into

2123
01:43:55,720 --> 01:43:58,240
Speaker 7: Kansas City here. Well we're not actually there, but Kansas

2124
01:43:58,240 --> 01:44:01,800
Speaker 7: City was mentioned. Chiefs are taking on the Green Bay

2125
01:44:01,840 --> 01:44:05,640
Speaker 7: Packers in Green Bay for the Sunday Night Special. And

2126
01:44:05,680 --> 01:44:08,400
Speaker 7: if you think this game is really really close, you'd

2127
01:44:08,400 --> 01:44:11,439
Speaker 7: be wrong. It is not Kansas City favored by six

2128
01:44:11,520 --> 01:44:17,599
Speaker 7: points going into the Packers' home turf. You know what, Jason,

2129
01:44:17,960 --> 01:44:18,880
Speaker 7: what are you thinking on this?

2130
01:44:19,160 --> 01:44:21,760
Speaker 2: So this one's interesting? I think again, the lines are

2131
01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:24,599
Speaker 2: put up to try and create action, not necessarily what

2132
01:44:24,640 --> 01:44:27,559
Speaker 2: they think is going to happen. It's all like, oh,

2133
01:44:27,640 --> 01:44:30,479
Speaker 2: they want people to buy into the Packers hype, and

2134
01:44:30,520 --> 01:44:33,320
Speaker 2: this is say six points. The Chiefs haven't looked all

2135
01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:36,160
Speaker 2: like good in you know, four or five weeks. Their

2136
01:44:36,200 --> 01:44:38,160
Speaker 2: offense doesn't seem to be clicking. There's a lot of

2137
01:44:38,240 --> 01:44:42,000
Speaker 2: I don't know, distractions that are blonde that are talked

2138
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:43,920
Speaker 2: about a lot right now as well. I guess her

2139
01:44:43,960 --> 01:44:46,439
Speaker 2: hair is blonde. I don't know. Maybe Brittany and Mahomes

2140
01:44:46,439 --> 01:44:50,640
Speaker 2: like that. Yeah, right, right, right exactly. I'm not buying it.

2141
01:44:50,680 --> 01:44:54,920
Speaker 2: I think I think Jordan Love in prime time against Mahomes.

2142
01:44:55,520 --> 01:44:57,320
Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's going to turn into a pumpkin.

2143
01:44:57,560 --> 01:44:59,760
Speaker 2: I just don't know that he is quite ready for

2144
01:44:59,800 --> 01:45:03,559
Speaker 2: this this moment, even though he's already shown that he's

2145
01:45:03,680 --> 01:45:07,040
Speaker 2: very capable in this league. I like Kansas City here

2146
01:45:07,600 --> 01:45:09,679
Speaker 2: to win this thing by double digits.

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Speaker 1: See, I actually I agree with you on this. First

2148
01:45:12,439 --> 01:45:14,200
Speaker 1: of all, the lion is fishy, right. It makes it

2149
01:45:14,240 --> 01:45:17,680
Speaker 1: seem like Vegas wants you to take Green Bay. But

2150
01:45:17,760 --> 01:45:21,000
Speaker 1: the other thing is it's funny, right like time extra

2151
01:45:21,080 --> 01:45:23,759
Speaker 1: time off can work in a positive or in a negative.

2152
01:45:23,760 --> 01:45:25,479
Speaker 1: Like in a positive it's like, Okay, you get more

2153
01:45:25,479 --> 01:45:28,120
Speaker 1: time to prep, you get more rest, whatever. But the

2154
01:45:28,200 --> 01:45:33,080
Speaker 1: counter is young team, young quarterback. This individual group of

2155
01:45:33,120 --> 01:45:36,320
Speaker 1: guys hasn't had a ton of success. The organization obviously has,

2156
01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:39,680
Speaker 1: but you know, the combination of Jordan Love and some

2157
01:45:39,720 --> 01:45:42,160
Speaker 1: of those young wide receivers. I bring it up because

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01:45:42,200 --> 01:45:47,160
Speaker 1: it just feels like that that standalone Lions win. It's like,

2159
01:45:47,240 --> 01:45:50,280
Speaker 1: oh my god, the Packers, Jordan loves figuring it out,

2160
01:45:50,360 --> 01:45:52,880
Speaker 1: and it's like maybe they just caught the Lions sleep

2161
01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:55,040
Speaker 1: in a little bit. So I'm with you. I will

2162
01:45:55,040 --> 01:45:59,479
Speaker 1: take Casey to win and to cover in Green Bay.

2163
01:45:59,680 --> 01:46:02,679
Speaker 1: Tell you, Jason, we'll come back and preview the rest

2164
01:46:02,760 --> 01:46:05,080
Speaker 1: of week whatever it is. I don't even know week

2165
01:46:05,080 --> 01:46:08,080
Speaker 1: thirteen ish or so. But before we get back to that,

2166
01:46:08,240 --> 01:46:10,479
Speaker 1: let's toss it over the news desk final time this

2167
01:46:10,640 --> 01:46:12,360
Speaker 1: evening Steve Seger's training.

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Speaker 5: I'm glad you referenced the Washington Huskies earlier because they

2169
01:46:15,040 --> 01:46:19,000
Speaker 5: have won twenty straight games, and that includes eleven close games.

2170
01:46:19,200 --> 01:46:21,680
Speaker 5: They have won them all in this stretch. Next year

2171
01:46:21,800 --> 01:46:24,559
Speaker 5: Washington plays Michigan and Penn State going to the Big Ten.

2172
01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:28,719
Speaker 5: Last night, undefeated, Washington won the Pac twelve, beating Oregon again.

2173
01:46:29,160 --> 01:46:31,519
Speaker 5: But before we go any further, I must give the

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Speaker 5: Iowa stat didn't have time for it last hour. It's

2175
01:46:34,920 --> 01:46:38,280
Speaker 5: been a great show. By the way, AP reporting that

2176
01:46:38,439 --> 01:46:40,360
Speaker 5: out of the one hundred and thirty or so college

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01:46:40,360 --> 01:46:43,439
Speaker 5: football teams in FBS, there are only two that have

2178
01:46:43,640 --> 01:46:46,240
Speaker 5: more yards on punts than they have on offense. This

2179
01:46:46,320 --> 01:46:50,679
Speaker 5: ye HiT's Navy has seventy three yards more on punts

2180
01:46:50,720 --> 01:46:55,439
Speaker 5: than offense. Iowa has one thousand yards more on punts

2181
01:46:55,720 --> 01:46:56,559
Speaker 5: than on offense.

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Speaker 2: Specifically, sit.

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Speaker 9: Game.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna mention it again because it's the greatest thing

2185
01:47:02,760 --> 01:47:04,600
Speaker 2: that I've seen on TV in a long time. Is

2186
01:47:04,720 --> 01:47:07,120
Speaker 2: let's sit down and interview the Iowa punter because he's

2187
01:47:07,160 --> 01:47:09,000
Speaker 2: the star contributor for the Hawk Eys.

2188
01:47:09,040 --> 01:47:10,640
Speaker 5: It's still a bowl game to go, but it's the

2189
01:47:10,840 --> 01:47:15,080
Speaker 5: thousand and thirty nine yards more on offense I've been

2190
01:47:15,080 --> 01:47:18,599
Speaker 5: on punts than on offense. This is astounding. The Iowa

2191
01:47:18,680 --> 01:47:21,120
Speaker 5: offense tonight in getting shut out in the Big Ten

2192
01:47:21,200 --> 01:47:25,479
Speaker 5: title game, thirteen drives seven first downs in the whole game.

2193
01:47:26,000 --> 01:47:29,080
Speaker 5: Iowa as a team on the ground twenty four carries

2194
01:47:29,400 --> 01:47:33,200
Speaker 5: thirty five yards rushing three fumbles. Number two ranked and

2195
01:47:33,280 --> 01:47:37,080
Speaker 5: undefeated Michigan wins the Big Ten twenty six nothing over Iowa.

2196
01:47:37,160 --> 01:47:39,719
Speaker 5: Michigan was four for four on field goals. Blake Korn

2197
01:47:39,760 --> 01:47:42,360
Speaker 5: with two more touchdown runs we mentioned earlier in the show.

2198
01:47:42,720 --> 01:47:45,639
Speaker 5: Blake korm By himself has more touchdowns this year than

2199
01:47:45,680 --> 01:47:48,400
Speaker 5: Iowa does. The Big Ten East is ten and zero

2200
01:47:48,400 --> 01:47:51,120
Speaker 5: against the West in their conference title games, and the

2201
01:47:51,200 --> 01:47:54,080
Speaker 5: last six have all been by double digits. Twenty six

2202
01:47:54,160 --> 01:47:58,840
Speaker 5: nothing tonight. Number four right Florida State is undefeated, winning

2203
01:47:58,840 --> 01:48:02,000
Speaker 5: the ACC title over Louisville sixteen to six. This game

2204
01:48:02,080 --> 01:48:04,479
Speaker 5: was tied three to three in the third quarter. Florida

2205
01:48:04,479 --> 01:48:07,639
Speaker 5: State had to go with a freshman quarterback Brock Glen

2206
01:48:08,000 --> 01:48:10,920
Speaker 5: fifty five yards passing for the game for him because

2207
01:48:10,960 --> 01:48:14,599
Speaker 5: Tate Rodimaker had a concussion. FSU star QB Jordan Travis

2208
01:48:14,640 --> 01:48:18,440
Speaker 5: is on crutches. Each team punted nine times in Charlotte

2209
01:48:18,640 --> 01:48:24,000
Speaker 5: combined combined in the ACC championship game tonight, only twenty

2210
01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:27,320
Speaker 5: two first downs on thirty two drives in this game

2211
01:48:28,160 --> 01:48:30,960
Speaker 5: in Atlanta, the SEC title did not go to number

2212
01:48:31,000 --> 01:48:35,120
Speaker 5: one Georgia. Eighth ranked Alabama beat the Bulldogs twenty seven

2213
01:48:35,240 --> 01:48:38,679
Speaker 5: twenty four. Georgia had won twenty nine in a row.

2214
01:48:38,760 --> 01:48:42,040
Speaker 5: Two key thinks quarterback Carson Beck in the defeat had

2215
01:48:42,080 --> 01:48:44,559
Speaker 5: won fumble it led to a field goal. Georgia lost

2216
01:48:44,600 --> 01:48:47,800
Speaker 5: by three. Also late first half, Georgia missed a fifty

2217
01:48:47,880 --> 01:48:50,519
Speaker 5: yard field goal attempt off the upright, and it came

2218
01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:53,679
Speaker 5: right after a false start penalty cost them five yards

2219
01:48:53,720 --> 01:48:56,840
Speaker 5: on that kick, and they lost by three. Number seven.

2220
01:48:56,880 --> 01:48:59,720
Speaker 5: Texas dominated the Big twelve title game forty nine to

2221
01:49:00,000 --> 01:49:02,800
Speaker 5: twenty one over eighteenth ranked Oklahoma State. In fact, quinn

2222
01:49:02,840 --> 01:49:06,080
Speaker 5: Ewers had four touchdown passes in the first half and

2223
01:49:06,160 --> 01:49:08,439
Speaker 5: over four hundred and fifty yards through the air in

2224
01:49:08,479 --> 01:49:12,080
Speaker 5: the game. Texas won at Alabama this season by ten.

2225
01:49:12,120 --> 01:49:14,840
Speaker 5: I don't know if you've heard that Texas scored touchdowns

2226
01:49:14,840 --> 01:49:17,599
Speaker 5: on its first four drives today, had over six hundred

2227
01:49:17,680 --> 01:49:21,080
Speaker 5: sixty yards total punted just one time. Texas had a

2228
01:49:21,120 --> 01:49:24,960
Speaker 5: first downs advantage of thirty three thirteen. We will find

2229
01:49:24,960 --> 01:49:27,920
Speaker 5: out the bowl game matchups tomorrow, not just the final

2230
01:49:27,920 --> 01:49:30,760
Speaker 5: playoff rankings in two weeks. We're gonna have a lot

2231
01:49:30,800 --> 01:49:33,760
Speaker 5: of bowl games on that Saturday, including the LA Bowl

2232
01:49:33,800 --> 01:49:36,680
Speaker 5: at the Rams Stadium, which might be UCLA against the

2233
01:49:36,680 --> 01:49:39,759
Speaker 5: Mountain West winner, which we know now is Boise State.

2234
01:49:40,439 --> 01:49:43,559
Speaker 5: Kudos to a team that fired its head coach three

2235
01:49:43,680 --> 01:49:47,280
Speaker 5: years ago, three weeks ago, because this isn't the type

2236
01:49:47,280 --> 01:49:50,040
Speaker 5: of Boise were used to from three years ago and

2237
01:49:50,160 --> 01:49:53,280
Speaker 5: yet they wind up seven to two against Mountain West competition,

2238
01:49:53,400 --> 01:49:56,439
Speaker 5: winning at UNLV in the title game forty four to twenty.

2239
01:49:56,439 --> 01:49:58,960
Speaker 5: In fact, Vegas offense did not score a touchdown after

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01:49:59,000 --> 01:50:01,679
Speaker 5: the first quarter. So a month ago Boise States record

2241
01:50:01,760 --> 01:50:05,360
Speaker 5: is four and five and here they are SMU. Will

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01:50:05,400 --> 01:50:07,880
Speaker 5: they be getting into a New Year's six Bowl? They

2243
01:50:07,880 --> 01:50:10,439
Speaker 5: went nine to zero against the American Conference. They won

2244
01:50:10,560 --> 01:50:13,000
Speaker 5: at number twenty two ranked two lane to win the

2245
01:50:13,040 --> 01:50:17,080
Speaker 5: American Final twenty six fourteen. SMU kicked four field goals

2246
01:50:17,080 --> 01:50:19,280
Speaker 5: in the second half after it was tied at fourteen

2247
01:50:19,360 --> 01:50:22,240
Speaker 5: all and SMU was playing with a backup quarterback Kevin

2248
01:50:22,280 --> 01:50:26,200
Speaker 5: Jennings had one touchdown three turnovers, but in victory in Detroit,

2249
01:50:26,240 --> 01:50:29,479
Speaker 5: matt Conference winner at Miami of Ohio, which beat Toledo

2250
01:50:29,560 --> 01:50:32,840
Speaker 5: twenty three fourteen they'd lost to Toledo regular season and

2251
01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:36,519
Speaker 5: at Troy, Alabama, the home team with four touchdowns fourth

2252
01:50:36,600 --> 01:50:39,920
Speaker 5: quarter won the Sun Belt Crown over Appalachian State forty

2253
01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:45,200
Speaker 5: nine to twenty three. Next Saturday, Army versus Navy in Foxboro, Massachusetts.

2254
01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:48,599
Speaker 5: There are eighty two teams in bowl games. No, they

2255
01:50:48,600 --> 01:50:50,560
Speaker 5: didn't have. All of them finished six and six for

2256
01:50:50,680 --> 01:50:53,080
Speaker 5: better they had three slots left to fill, so that's

2257
01:50:53,120 --> 01:50:56,880
Speaker 5: why James Madison gets in and Jacksonville State, even though

2258
01:50:56,880 --> 01:51:00,160
Speaker 5: it's a transitional squad as well, it gets a spot.

2259
01:51:00,200 --> 01:51:03,280
Speaker 5: And Minnesota had the best academic progress report, so at

2260
01:51:03,280 --> 01:51:06,800
Speaker 5: five and seven, Minnesota gets a Bowl slot. The good

2261
01:51:06,840 --> 01:51:09,720
Speaker 5: news for those who love the Rose Bowl it is

2262
01:51:09,760 --> 01:51:13,120
Speaker 5: a semifinal this year and it will be a quarterfinal

2263
01:51:13,400 --> 01:51:16,040
Speaker 5: in the expanded playoffs starting next year. It will stay

2264
01:51:16,040 --> 01:51:19,479
Speaker 5: in its regular slot on New Year's afternoon after the

2265
01:51:19,600 --> 01:51:23,560
Speaker 5: Rose Bowl parade in the morning. Also good for traditionalists,

2266
01:51:23,880 --> 01:51:27,360
Speaker 5: they're pretty much guaranteed one of their traditional teams tomorrow

2267
01:51:27,479 --> 01:51:31,800
Speaker 5: because probably either Michigan or Washington is going to Pasadena

2268
01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:34,920
Speaker 5: for their semifinal in the Rose Bowl. They're probably not

2269
01:51:34,920 --> 01:51:38,000
Speaker 5: playing each other. They're probably not ranked one and four,

2270
01:51:38,160 --> 01:51:41,120
Speaker 5: so we'll find that out tomorrow. In the NBA, Clippers

2271
01:51:41,120 --> 01:51:43,320
Speaker 5: were down twenty two in the third quarter and still

2272
01:51:43,320 --> 01:51:46,760
Speaker 5: be Golden State by a point. Minnesota won again. Cleveland

2273
01:51:46,800 --> 01:51:51,240
Speaker 5: handed Detroit a seventeenth straight loss, Brooklyn ended Orlando's nine

2274
01:51:51,280 --> 01:51:54,600
Speaker 5: game winning streak. Late night wins for Utah and overtime

2275
01:51:54,680 --> 01:51:57,799
Speaker 5: for the Lakers and Sacramento and college hoops Today started

2276
01:51:57,840 --> 01:52:01,519
Speaker 5: with Wisconsin beating number three Marquee at Georgia Tech had

2277
01:52:01,520 --> 01:52:03,840
Speaker 5: a late ten two run to beat number seven Duke.

2278
01:52:04,280 --> 01:52:08,360
Speaker 5: Tonight in Vegas, Gonzaga over USC You win c Wilmington

2279
01:52:08,439 --> 01:52:12,080
Speaker 5: won at number twelve Kentucky. Wilmington just lost at East Carolina.

2280
01:52:12,160 --> 01:52:16,200
Speaker 5: On Thursday, Florida Atlantic was down eight to Charleston early

2281
01:52:16,280 --> 01:52:20,519
Speaker 5: second half and then beat him. Drexel defeated Villanova, and

2282
01:52:20,600 --> 01:52:24,080
Speaker 5: Villanova Wednesday had lost to Saint Joe's in Philly. In Vegas,

2283
01:52:24,160 --> 01:52:28,360
Speaker 5: Colorado State eight and O beat Washington, New Mexico State

2284
01:52:28,840 --> 01:52:31,800
Speaker 5: ripped by New Mexico Lobos one oh six sixty two

2285
01:52:31,840 --> 01:52:34,200
Speaker 5: buck now one at Penn State, and did you see

2286
01:52:34,200 --> 01:52:37,160
Speaker 5: the finish? TCU winning at Georgetown in college hoops eighty

2287
01:52:37,200 --> 01:52:39,920
Speaker 5: four eighty three, banking in a three at the buzzer,

2288
01:52:40,320 --> 01:52:43,280
Speaker 5: and Michigan basketball lost again. Oregon beat him in overtime.

2289
01:52:43,320 --> 01:52:45,559
Speaker 1: Back to you, thank you very much to say you're sake.

2290
01:52:45,640 --> 01:52:48,360
Speaker 1: I just realized we just cut out your nine to

2291
01:52:48,400 --> 01:52:49,160
Speaker 1: forty segment a half.

2292
01:52:49,240 --> 01:52:51,160
Speaker 5: I got in the Iowa stat I'm happy.

2293
01:52:50,920 --> 01:52:52,680
Speaker 1: Okay, good good good, I Paul, I.

2294
01:52:52,840 --> 01:52:56,759
Speaker 2: Just got we got a full dose of potential acc

2295
01:52:57,000 --> 01:53:01,920
Speaker 2: conspiracy in the college football Player Selection Committee room in

2296
01:53:02,000 --> 01:53:03,720
Speaker 2: place of the disagre segment, so.

2297
01:53:03,920 --> 01:53:05,880
Speaker 1: We went X files instead of you to say you're

2298
01:53:05,960 --> 01:53:06,759
Speaker 1: just blamed.

2299
01:53:07,479 --> 01:53:09,880
Speaker 5: Were able to clarify that the SEC does have a

2300
01:53:09,960 --> 01:53:14,040
Speaker 5: representative on the committee, it does stand to benefit financially.

2301
01:53:14,160 --> 01:53:17,280
Speaker 1: I will say, the funniest thing about today is.

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01:53:17,720 --> 01:53:19,759
Speaker 2: No, it was the Iowa it was. It was interviewing

2303
01:53:19,800 --> 01:53:20,920
Speaker 2: the Iowa puntar.

2304
01:53:20,720 --> 01:53:24,919
Speaker 1: And the Iowa stat was good too, But the reaction

2305
01:53:25,080 --> 01:53:28,800
Speaker 1: from SEC country about the possibility of being left out

2306
01:53:29,960 --> 01:53:31,600
Speaker 1: is kind of funny. Like I don't know, if you

2307
01:53:31,600 --> 01:53:34,400
Speaker 1: saw Greg sank on College game Day today.

2308
01:53:34,240 --> 01:53:35,240
Speaker 2: Go sesame street.

2309
01:53:35,320 --> 01:53:38,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he went full sesame street. One of these is

2310
01:53:38,040 --> 01:53:40,479
Speaker 1: not like the other. Yeah, yeah, I guess what, Greg Sankie,

2311
01:53:40,520 --> 01:53:42,320
Speaker 1: it's gonna because you're left out of the playoff. That's

2312
01:53:42,320 --> 01:53:44,519
Speaker 1: why one is not like the other. But yeah, it's

2313
01:53:44,520 --> 01:53:48,680
Speaker 1: like it's like, dude, Alabama lost, like they lost at

2314
01:53:48,680 --> 01:53:51,360
Speaker 1: the head. I don't know, it's just it's so funny.

2315
01:53:51,360 --> 01:53:54,559
Speaker 1: And then I don't know, I just I've seen so

2316
01:53:54,720 --> 01:53:59,040
Speaker 1: much weird stuff today and this is you know, I think.

2317
01:53:58,880 --> 01:54:01,679
Speaker 5: We just need to admit out loud that the SEC

2318
01:54:01,760 --> 01:54:04,960
Speaker 5: top to bottom for many years. The bottom half has

2319
01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:07,880
Speaker 5: been no better than anyone else's league. It's not a

2320
01:54:07,920 --> 01:54:10,920
Speaker 5: great bottom half the league. The top has been phenomenal,

2321
01:54:11,040 --> 01:54:15,639
Speaker 5: specifically SABAN over the last twenty plus years. But I mean, honestly,

2322
01:54:15,720 --> 01:54:19,640
Speaker 5: what was Auburn this year? Who almost Beabama? Mississippi State, Arkansas,

2323
01:54:20,200 --> 01:54:22,120
Speaker 5: Tennessee's had a lot of bad years in the last

2324
01:54:22,120 --> 01:54:25,600
Speaker 5: twenty years, Vanderbilt, South Carolina, what's Florida right now? I

2325
01:54:25,600 --> 01:54:27,120
Speaker 5: mean I just named half the conference.

2326
01:54:27,200 --> 01:54:29,000
Speaker 1: There you go. And oh, by the way, A and

2327
01:54:29,160 --> 01:54:30,800
Speaker 1: M lost had to head to a seven and five

2328
01:54:30,840 --> 01:54:32,160
Speaker 1: Miami team out of conference.

2329
01:54:33,040 --> 01:54:37,480
Speaker 2: Well, that dude's no longer coaching, so no, I was

2330
01:54:37,640 --> 01:54:38,520
Speaker 2: just counting money.

2331
01:54:38,520 --> 01:54:41,280
Speaker 5: That's right. Alabama's turned it around since the whole quarterback

2332
01:54:41,320 --> 01:54:43,760
Speaker 5: thing in September. So that lost to Texas. That doesn't

2333
01:54:43,960 --> 01:54:45,560
Speaker 5: You know when Ryan I love having a righte on.

2334
01:54:45,640 --> 01:54:48,120
Speaker 5: He's been on for years and the passion for college

2335
01:54:48,160 --> 01:54:50,480
Speaker 5: football in general is just great to see all day long.

2336
01:54:50,840 --> 01:54:53,200
Speaker 5: But you remember when he was on this show in September,

2337
01:54:53,280 --> 01:54:56,080
Speaker 5: it was as if Alabama was going six and six

2338
01:54:56,160 --> 01:54:56,520
Speaker 5: this year.

2339
01:54:56,560 --> 01:54:59,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and we all kind of we're talking about

2340
01:54:59,000 --> 01:55:01,400
Speaker 2: they're probably going to lose it couple more games. The

2341
01:55:01,480 --> 01:55:03,800
Speaker 2: Milroe story is incredible. The one story I didn't get

2342
01:55:03,800 --> 01:55:06,120
Speaker 2: to ask, or the one thing I wanted to ask Fowler,

2343
01:55:06,240 --> 01:55:09,200
Speaker 2: is what's a better story Hurt's being benched in the

2344
01:55:09,240 --> 01:55:12,400
Speaker 2: play in the in the playoff final for Tua and

2345
01:55:12,400 --> 01:55:14,120
Speaker 2: then having to come back the next year to beat

2346
01:55:14,120 --> 01:55:17,280
Speaker 2: Georgia in the SEC Championship game when Tua got injured

2347
01:55:17,440 --> 01:55:20,520
Speaker 2: and doing it, or what we saw from Jaln Milroe

2348
01:55:20,560 --> 01:55:24,400
Speaker 2: this year, being benched against South Florida and then completely

2349
01:55:24,400 --> 01:55:28,640
Speaker 2: transforming himself seemingly into an absolute study the by the

2350
01:55:28,760 --> 01:55:29,760
Speaker 2: end of the SEC.

2351
01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:32,880
Speaker 5: To the coaching and there's still a second act on

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Speaker 5: the mill Roe.

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Speaker 2: That's true.

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Speaker 1: Well, two quick things we got to get out of here.

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01:55:37,400 --> 01:55:40,200
Speaker 1: One the Milroe thing I three hundred percent with. I

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01:55:40,200 --> 01:55:42,400
Speaker 1: don't know if I've ever remembered a player. Just every

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01:55:42,400 --> 01:55:44,840
Speaker 1: single week you see him getting more confidence. But that

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01:55:45,040 --> 01:55:48,280
Speaker 1: little thing that de Seger just said, the coaching because

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01:55:48,320 --> 01:55:52,240
Speaker 1: Tommy Reese, the new offensive coordinator, was taking so much heat.

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01:55:52,360 --> 01:55:54,720
Speaker 1: He's not laying Kiff and he's not Steve Sarkisian. This

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01:55:54,880 --> 01:55:57,800
Speaker 1: run of great, brilliant minds that we've had is over.

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01:55:57,920 --> 01:56:00,240
Speaker 1: It's never coming back and remember Ryan, and that was

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01:56:00,280 --> 01:56:03,080
Speaker 1: one of his big arguments, was, well, the assistant coaching

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01:56:03,080 --> 01:56:04,960
Speaker 1: staff just isn't what it used to be when we

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01:56:05,000 --> 01:56:07,480
Speaker 1: had Kirby and Lane and whatever. And I get it.

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Speaker 1: Kirby Smart's a Sark.

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Speaker 5: Conditi mentioned Sark's name because they beat Alabama.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, So so talk about Bill O'Brien. Thankfully Tommy Reese

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Speaker 2: is not Bill O'Brien.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so credit to that guy because a lot of

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01:56:18,480 --> 01:56:20,080
Speaker 1: people don't think he should get the job. A lot

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01:56:20,120 --> 01:56:22,360
Speaker 1: of people thought he was in over his head. Alabama

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01:56:22,400 --> 01:56:25,040
Speaker 1: at the very least twelve and one sec champ. You

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01:56:25,080 --> 01:56:26,080
Speaker 1: can't take that away from him.

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Speaker 5: Kudos to all coaches in all sports who throw out

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01:56:29,240 --> 01:56:31,720
Speaker 5: some plays that maybe don't fit the personnel you happen

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Speaker 5: to have this year.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and he built an offense to fit the personnel

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Speaker 1: that we.

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Speaker 5: Have, Bingo.

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01:56:37,400 --> 01:56:40,920
Speaker 2: Then there's Brian Farns, and Brian we're.

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01:56:40,800 --> 01:56:43,560
Speaker 5: Still yelling, I believe as if I would have won

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01:56:44,080 --> 01:56:46,480
Speaker 5: if that wasn't ruled a fumble in the game against

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Speaker 5: Michigan today.

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Speaker 1: And then there's Phil Parker, the defensive coordinator who's win

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01:56:50,000 --> 01:56:52,960
Speaker 1: without scoring that dude, go go get a job at

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01:56:52,960 --> 01:56:55,600
Speaker 1: a house stilly. Yes, all right, well come back, we'll

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Speaker 1: wrap the show. This is Fox Sports three.

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Speaker 13: You fellas tremendous, you know what.

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Speaker 6: I gotta be honest.

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Speaker 13: You can't peat Florida State out who you just you

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01:57:11,760 --> 01:57:14,960
Speaker 13: just can't. They ran the frigging table. You know, this

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01:57:15,000 --> 01:57:18,120
Speaker 13: is an undefeated team. They did every dance they were

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01:57:18,120 --> 01:57:20,080
Speaker 13: supposed to do that they put in front of them.

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Speaker 8: They went two and zero against the SEC.

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Speaker 13: They've got cleve winds up and down that schedule, and

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Speaker 13: I don't want to hear anything about hypotheticals. Home Michigan's

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01:57:28,440 --> 01:57:32,800
Speaker 13: gonna bowl them out. That defense is elite.

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Speaker 1: That was Reggie from Portland. He called in earlier as

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Speaker 1: if you want to hear more, we took a lot

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Speaker 1: of calls, heard from you, and we talked quite a bit.

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Speaker 1: Florida State, Alabama, who should be the final playoff spot?

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01:58:15,160 --> 01:58:18,360
Speaker 1: What about Texas? Are they guaranteed? Somebody even made the

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01:58:18,360 --> 01:58:21,440
Speaker 1: case that Washington shouldn't be guaranteed. I bring it all

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Speaker 1: up to say, if you missed any of it, make

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Speaker 1: sure to download. The podcast will be available shortly after

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Speaker 1: the show. Also, speaking of after the show, Bernie Fratto

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01:58:29,000 --> 01:58:30,360
Speaker 1: will follow us at the top of the hour. He

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01:58:30,560 --> 01:58:34,480
Speaker 1: just texted us he is ready, he is fired up,

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01:58:34,560 --> 01:58:38,280
Speaker 1: and he has plenty of thoughts on the very interesting

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01:58:38,280 --> 01:58:41,240
Speaker 1: debate between Alabama and Florida State. Bernie Fratto is up

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01:58:41,280 --> 01:58:43,480
Speaker 1: at the top of the hour, Jason, Jason, we only

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01:58:43,520 --> 01:58:47,280
Speaker 1: got a few minutes left, and I want to I'm

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01:58:47,360 --> 01:58:50,520
Speaker 1: trying to see here, h First of all, I want

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Speaker 1: to get let let's just get to it tomorrow noon

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Speaker 1: Eastern the four teams. I want to give you your preview.

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01:58:58,360 --> 01:59:01,400
Speaker 1: We did get a good tweet in here our meat

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01:59:01,680 --> 01:59:04,560
Speaker 1: and Scott Okay, I don't know what this guy's name is,

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01:59:04,600 --> 01:59:07,200
Speaker 1: but he says it's amazing that sports guys like Aaron

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01:59:07,200 --> 01:59:11,000
Speaker 1: and Jason, don't even consider FSUs elite defense. It can

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01:59:11,000 --> 01:59:13,440
Speaker 1: and will keep them in any game. They will make

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. They earned it, they deserve it, and they're

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Speaker 1: one of the four best teams. Well, raur meat, let

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Speaker 1: me tell you this. I sent out a tweet Jason

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01:59:21,400 --> 01:59:26,320
Speaker 1: Martin at let's see here. What time did I send

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01:59:26,360 --> 01:59:28,760
Speaker 1: it out? I can't even find the whole tweet, but

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01:59:28,880 --> 01:59:30,880
Speaker 1: I sent it out during our one of the show.

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01:59:31,480 --> 01:59:35,200
Speaker 1: I said, hot take, Florida State's defense played Jaden Daniels

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Speaker 1: and LSU tougher than anyone else. If they do get

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01:59:38,280 --> 01:59:40,920
Speaker 1: in the playoff, I don't think they'll get embarrassed. They

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01:59:40,920 --> 01:59:43,520
Speaker 1: won't win because the offense is comically bad, but they

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01:59:43,520 --> 01:59:47,720
Speaker 1: won't be embarrassed. But they won't get embarrassed. Really quickly,

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Speaker 1: we got about a minute left, Jason, your final four,

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01:59:50,880 --> 01:59:54,320
Speaker 1: your final four or your final four? And who do

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01:59:54,400 --> 01:59:55,640
Speaker 1: you think will be the final four?

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01:59:56,280 --> 02:00:01,600
Speaker 2: One Michigan, two Washington three two Exis for Alabama is

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02:00:01,640 --> 02:00:06,760
Speaker 2: what I think will happen. One Michigan, two Washington, three

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02:00:07,680 --> 02:00:11,320
Speaker 2: Texas for Alabama. What I would do?

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know how I feel on either.

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Speaker 1: I think I have come to the conclusion I think

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02:00:21,160 --> 02:00:25,800
Speaker 1: Florida State is in. I don't. I just I just

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Speaker 1: think the I think the SEC is out. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: it'd be Michigan one, Washington two, Texas three and uh

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Speaker 1: and Florida State four. We got to get out of here.

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Speaker 1: Thank the crew, Loraina, Pat, you guys were incredible. Steve

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Speaker 1: de Seger Bernie Frattle's up next. Download the podcast please

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Speaker 1: talks up for he