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Speaker 1: What do I mean by that? You can watch YouTube,

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Speaker 1: you can watch all the free things, but at some

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Speaker 1: to invest your time, You've got to invest your money.

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Speaker 1: Because let me tell you something, people like to give

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Speaker 1: so sometimes we're looking for a grant, we're looking for

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Speaker 1: a handout, we're looking for somebody to invest. But the

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Speaker 1: first person to invest the first person to believe in

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Speaker 1: your dreams with you. And I believe if you believe

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Speaker 1: you believe in your own goals, then you'll get other

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Speaker 1: how powerful they are Rash, which is why this show

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Speaker 1: trying to make it happen because the money isn't there.

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Speaker 1: And also, you know, when I look at myself, I

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Speaker 1: Always said that when I go shopping, I just wanted

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Speaker 1: And so my goal wasn't always tried to money. It

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Speaker 1: no matter what it's gonna cost. Because in my mind

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Speaker 1: Now my sensibilities tell me if I have a coupon,

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Speaker 1: And that's the difference in what people don't do on

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Speaker 1: the regular basis. They have standards, But who are the

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Speaker 1: standards being made for? My standards are being made for myself.

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Speaker 1: Dr Richardson who your standards being made for? You know

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Speaker 1: my standards are being made. I didn't want my children

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Speaker 1: And so I've watched people like you for a very

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Speaker 1: the wheels. So I modeled the behaviors of folks that

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Speaker 1: I modeled some of those behaviors, and and my motivation

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Speaker 1: of people because you have to tell you something. You

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Speaker 1: forget taxes coming out of that. Okay, they're gonna take that.

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Speaker 1: It's never and people forget that. They forget that. But

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Speaker 1: on the growth, so and so that a lot of

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Speaker 1: people understand how that process works. And so, so I

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Speaker 1: remember when I first started coming in the money. You know,

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Speaker 1: mind was blown. Okay, I can't drive but one car. Now,

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Speaker 1: that's what stupidity takes over your life. So I was,

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Speaker 1: I was collecting cars like shoes. You know, I tried

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Speaker 1: that on Monday. I dried that on Thursday, and when

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Speaker 1: See that's where that money right there. When I look

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Speaker 1: back on it should have been in some investment, should

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Speaker 1: have been somewhere where look some stock, where I should

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Speaker 1: telling how much money that would have had. And so

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Speaker 1: when we talk about investment, that's part of the conversations

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Speaker 1: where African Americans, importantly, they don't understand. They don't understand

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Speaker 1: how to value that situation and how to get in there.

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Speaker 1: How do we turn the corner with African Americans or

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Speaker 1: people of color to understand the valuable investment. We're not

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Speaker 1: talking about savings accounts because right now, interest on savings

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Speaker 1: account that's why people think they're buying homes left right

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Speaker 1: because interest is so low. We're talking about going to

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Speaker 1: that stock market and learning how to trust the system

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Speaker 1: and investing in stocks that you live your life. One

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Speaker 1: in the other way, if you go to home depot

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Speaker 1: by home depot stock, if you if you if you

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Speaker 1: got an Apple phone by Apple stock, you know by

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Speaker 1: what you use. If you don't know what to buy,

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Speaker 1: talk to them some common sense, because that's I always

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Speaker 1: love about you. Dr Lany Riches, your lovel common sense,

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Speaker 1: it was, has opened so many doors for so many

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Speaker 1: people to be successful in any type of relationship. Talk

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Speaker 1: to us. Oh my goodness. Let me tell you. The

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Speaker 1: use to grow their wealth. If you put your money

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Speaker 1: under the mattress, not only will it not grow, but

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Speaker 1: the value of that money will decrease over time because

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Speaker 1: of inflation. If you put your money in a save

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Speaker 1: these accounts, that's a great start. Maybe you've got your

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Speaker 1: emergency fund there, but you're not gonna earn any more

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Speaker 1: than one may be two percent if you're lucky, if

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Speaker 1: My daughters, my two youngest are at Howard, my oldest

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Speaker 1: graduating from Northwestern, and they buy Apple stock because they

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Speaker 1: have iPhones. Uh, they buy I think they brought brooms,

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Speaker 1: now their soft portfolio you can earn. You can put

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Speaker 1: in a hundred dollars and earn the five hundreds, you know,

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Speaker 1: depending on which stock you purchase and how long you

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Speaker 1: keep those investments over time. In New Walk University Resaunt,

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Speaker 1: continue to demystify the difficulties, then people will understand that

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Speaker 1: investment and make those times of decisions. It's absolutely amazing. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know the thing about I want to first of all,

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Speaker 1: I don't put the word brilliant, people like Dr Lann Richardson.

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Speaker 1: You're not called her by Samantham and executive producer of

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Speaker 1: You know, when I think about what I've done in

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Speaker 1: matter where I've lived, I've always learned that people are different.

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Speaker 1: You should treat them different, and you should have a

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00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: clear understanding of why they are successful. And only way

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Speaker 1: you can be successful was create relationships with people believe

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Speaker 1: in you. And that has been when I've fallen. There

644
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Speaker 1: have been people to pick me up and they would.

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Speaker 1: People will pick you up. They believe in you. They

646
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: pick you up, they feel that you believe in them

647
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: and you share their responsibilities. My next guest is I

648
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Speaker 1: call him a friend. You know, I met him on

649
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation when I first launched in twin and

650
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Speaker 1: um in doing so. His goal is in life affect

651
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Speaker 1: me in such a a strong way because we all

652
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: say that we don't have time. That's a that's a

653
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: big statement we say all the time. But this brother

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Speaker 1: has time all the time for the right people. My

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Speaker 1: next guest is uh Karma Johnson. He's the president CEO

656
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Speaker 1: of Big Brothers Big Sisters of Metro Atlanta. He's also

657
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Speaker 1: a partner with He always partners with local leaders, celebrities,

658
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: and influential men in Atlanta give youth, especially young boys,

659
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Speaker 1: every opportunity to succeed. Big Brothers Big Sisters currently has

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Speaker 1: over Georgia Boars on waiting list n six of the

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Speaker 1: of those boards African Americans. And we know Atlanta when

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00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: we complain about the water boards on the corner and

663
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Speaker 1: things like that. This is what this conversation is about.

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Speaker 1: What to do with those young men who are active

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Speaker 1: in the streets who don't have male leadership, male guidance.

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Speaker 1: Adult males often feel uncertain of their ability to mentor

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Speaker 1: a young boy and want to know during the time

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Speaker 1: or do they have time, how they're gonna fit in

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Speaker 1: their schedule where That's why I got Mr Johnson on

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Speaker 1: the call today to talk about this. We wanna spend

671
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Speaker 1: some minutes talk about his career. I want to everybody

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Speaker 1: knows how did he get here? First? I have a

673
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Speaker 1: Big Brothers Big Big Brothers Big Sisters takes care of

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Speaker 1: those concerns by making flexible volunteering schedules. You know, it

675
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Speaker 1: takes a few hours a couple of times a month

676
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Speaker 1: to make a big difference in a young boy a

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Speaker 1: girl's life. Police, welcome to money making conversation. Like I

678
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Speaker 1: said earlier, the President and CEO of Big Brothers Big

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Speaker 1: Sisters of Metro Atlanta, Kwama Johnson, Hello, Hello, my brother.

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Speaker 1: Is good to catch up with you and talking to you.

681
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: I love the work that you're doing and all the

682
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: support you've been providing us over the years. It's glad

683
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 1: to be here. We know we we met um and

684
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: we didn't know each other and over a radio interview, Kwame,

685
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: and but the passion and desire. I just want to

686
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: because everybody that's a journey to become the president and

687
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: CEO Big Brothers, Big Sister and talk about how you

688
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,240
Speaker 1: gotten started. Just talk about little bit of your educational

689
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: background and then how did you make your way to

690
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Speaker 1: Atlanta before we get into the actual program. Well, no,

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Speaker 1: thank you again for having me. And you know, it's

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Speaker 1: been a journey. It's been been a long journey. And

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Speaker 1: I tell people all the time that I've been given

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Speaker 1: a second chance at life. And you know, for anybody

695
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Speaker 1: that's been given a second chance, you try to make

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Speaker 1: the best out of that situation when you're giving that

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Speaker 1: second chance. And I've had different people coming to my life,

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Speaker 1: different mentors along the way, family friends, you know, coaches,

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Speaker 1: formal mentors who poured into me. You know, my coach

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Speaker 1: Steve Maynard, when I was in prison at the age

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Speaker 1: of seventeen for being a knucklehead, would bring me my

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Speaker 1: school work so I can finish my senior year in

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Speaker 1: high school and go to college at Hampton University. And

704
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: then being at Hampton University, I started thinking about all

705
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: the young men that I had spent time with behind bars,

706
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Speaker 1: who had tough stories and very much tougher than mine.

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Speaker 1: Uh Anthony who I met, who met his father in

708
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Speaker 1: jail for the first time. I kept thinking about him,

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Speaker 1: and I decided at that point, at the age of nineteen,

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Speaker 1: to leave college and to going to youth development and

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Speaker 1: to really help young people and defend potentially young people

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00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: so they would never have to experience what I went

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Speaker 1: through and what Anthony went through. And that's what I've

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Speaker 1: been doing my whole career. You know, I've been blessed

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Speaker 1: to go to Harvard and win all types of awards

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Speaker 1: and become a CEO in my thirties. And it's really

717
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: because of all the different people that have supported me

718
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: and who've mentored me and important to me. I'm actually

719
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Speaker 1: working on a book right now to document my journey

720
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Speaker 1: and to give some tips to young people so they

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Speaker 1: can be a CEO. If you think about it, young

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Speaker 1: people like me who've been through these situations need to

723
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Speaker 1: be working in nonprofit because they have hands on experience

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Speaker 1: with these same challenges. So it's been it's been a

725
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Speaker 1: great rite. I'm blessed. Well, you know the interesting thing

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Speaker 1: I'm talking to call me Johnson the President CEO or

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Speaker 1: Big Brothers Big Sisters at Metro Atlanta if you want

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Speaker 1: to talk to him and talk to me for zero

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Speaker 1: four eight eight zero five four zero four eight zero.

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Speaker 1: The reason I brought him on the show was we

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Speaker 1: always talk about time, We always complained about situations and

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Speaker 1: but the youth or our future. When I look back

733
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Speaker 1: on my life, kam Um, I remember well, fifteen years old,

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Speaker 1: my father was a truck driver. Like I said, I'm

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Speaker 1: from Houston, Texas. And the first job he gave me

736
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Speaker 1: was was one of one of his routes. He took

737
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Speaker 1: me over there, he said, can you hire my son

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Speaker 1: and I and so I was influenced by the young

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Speaker 1: black men who were working. And all of them drove forklifts.

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Speaker 1: All of them drove for they were the baddest forklift

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Speaker 1: drivers I had ever seen in my life. I was

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Speaker 1: fifteen years old. So despite all my education, despite my

743
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Speaker 1: ability to go to college, because I did go to

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Speaker 1: college and graduate with a math and mathematics degree in

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Speaker 1: a minor and sociology, when I came out of high school,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to be a forklift driver. That's all I

747
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Speaker 1: wanted to be. And guess what, I got a job

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Speaker 1: as a forklift driver. I didn't even go to college

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Speaker 1: because us I was influenced by these young men when

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Speaker 1: I was fifteen years old. And so that's why people

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Speaker 1: need to understand how young minds can be shaped in

752
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Speaker 1: a direction if you if you come into their lives

753
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Speaker 1: at the right point, then you can shape and they

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Speaker 1: shape my direction. And it wasn't nothing negative with being

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Speaker 1: the forklift driver, but people around me felt I could

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Speaker 1: do more. I had more options in my life than

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Speaker 1: they may have had to be forklift drivers. And I'm

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Speaker 1: not trying to make manual labor a negative. I'm just

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Speaker 1: letting everybody know he was a kid fifteen years old

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Speaker 1: who were influenced by young men, and when I left

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Speaker 1: high school, I wanted to be a forklift driver. What

762
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Speaker 1: if I was influenced by scientists. What about influence with

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Speaker 1: people who writing books about being a CEO. What if

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Speaker 1: I was influenced by people who wanted who are non athletic,

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Speaker 1: people who in the stand program engineers, I would have

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Speaker 1: probably wanted to come out of high school and be

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Speaker 1: an engineer or be a teacher. So that's really what

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Speaker 1: your programmer is all about. And I should need to

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Speaker 1: call it the program because it's a very affluent organization.

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Speaker 1: And Big Brothers and Big Metro Atlanta talk about the

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Speaker 1: whole substance because I'm outside of looking in talk to us, right,

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Speaker 1: you know. Oprah Winfrey has a quote that says that

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00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: everybody has hope inside them. And what you're talking about

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00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: is young people are born with hope, they're born with potential,

775
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Speaker 1: and it's our responsibility as adults to descend that potential

776
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: so they can reach their full potential. Just giving them

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00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: exposure to careers and opportunities and different things they may

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00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: never see in their communities will turn on that light.

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Speaker 1: And I've seen so many young people pushed through the

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00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: toughest situations because they had hope. And that's what mentors represent.

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00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: That's why more people your listeners need to know that

782
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: they can provide hope. They can provide a tangible testimony

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00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: of what is possible. And we're not asking you to

784
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: become a foster parent or to do all these different things.

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00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: We're actually just suspending the time with a young person,

786
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Speaker 1: to pouring to a young person, to bring them along

787
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Speaker 1: them with you in your journey and life so they

788
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: can see what you see because you never know what

789
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 1: experience will turn on that life for them. And that's

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00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: what our mentors do every day. They spend hours a

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Speaker 1: few hours per month with a young person and they

792
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Speaker 1: provide that guidance and supporting. Like you said, we have

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Speaker 1: hundreds of boys on the waiting list and girls as

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Speaker 1: well that need mentors. And that's what we're trying to

795
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Speaker 1: get more people to know about. Now this waiting list.

796
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: What what constitutes the wait list? And how do these

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Speaker 1: young boys and young ladies get into the program or

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00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: become aware of the program. Do they do their parents

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Speaker 1: or their guardians bring them to the Big Brothers Big

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Speaker 1: Sister program on Metro Atlanta program? How do they get

801
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Speaker 1: on the waiting list? And the purpose of the waiting

802
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: list is what? So it's it's interesting because parents come in,

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Speaker 1: we get referrals from guidance counselors. Kids come in a

804
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: number of different ways. But what's so special about our

805
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: program is that all these young people have agreed that

806
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: they want to be a part of this program. So

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Speaker 1: it's not just their parents saying, hey, we want to

808
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 1: be a part of this They've actually agreed to say, hey,

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00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: I need a mentor in my life. So these young

810
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 1: people are looking for support and they're waiting for mentors.

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Speaker 1: So that's why I work so hard to get out

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00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: there and get the word out about ways that people

813
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 1: can get involved. And you can go to our website,

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Speaker 1: Big Brothers and Big Sisters Metro Atlanta and sign up

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00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: to be a big we're doing everything virtually right now.

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00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: Is very easy. You can sign up and we match

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00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 1: you with a young person who lives in your community,

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00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: so you don't gotta drive far and it's not a

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00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: big hassle. And we also match you based on preferences.

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Speaker 1: You may want to work with a young person who's twelve,

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00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: who's into sports or who's into engineering. We match you

822
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: that same way because we want that relationship to last.

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Speaker 1: And it's powerful. And what's what's special about it is

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Speaker 1: not only do our kids graduate high school on time,

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00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 1: avoid the criminal justice system, graduate with plans to go

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Speaker 1: to college or career, but the mentor, the person mentoring

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Speaker 1: young person gets benefits out of it as well. They

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Speaker 1: are doing better on their job, they feel better if themselves,

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Speaker 1: and any big you talked to will tell you they've

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00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: gotten more out of it than they put in, so

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Speaker 1: both sides get something out of it. So to me,

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Speaker 1: it's a win win. This is something that anyone can

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00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: do if you care about kids and you want to

834
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Speaker 1: help young people get to the next level. Because it's

835
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Speaker 1: like you said, everyone is no one on this listening

836
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: right now has gotten to where they are without somebody

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00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: helping them out, So it's all responsibility to return that favorite.

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Speaker 1: Well know, it's really interesting when I talked to you,

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Speaker 1: Kama Johnson about the whole mentoring, because it's become such

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Speaker 1: a popular term. Now. I know, when I was growing up,

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00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: I didn't hear the word mentoring. I just heard, you know,

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00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: the it takes a village phrase was very popular when

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00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: I was growing up. Now you hear the word mentoring,

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Speaker 1: and it's important that people understand the value of that.

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Speaker 1: But also people just hear the word time, time, spending time.

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Speaker 1: Do I have time? Do I want to spend time?

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00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 1: Do I value a time with a stranger? Because that's

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00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: what they look at they do. They feel that once

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Speaker 1: they get they looped, get into the big brothers big

850
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: such as a Metro Alanta organization, they can't get out.

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Speaker 1: Can you walking through the steps? Are hot? Actually work?

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Speaker 1: Because you kind of talked about it. You can get

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Speaker 1: a sign to a young man who has similar values

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Speaker 1: that you want to have for the kids that you

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Speaker 1: want to work with, but again doesn't doesn't Can they

856
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: feel trapped if they get involved with this type of

857
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: organization working with these young kids? So most people I

858
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: speak to They're like, hey, I don't want to fail.

859
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: No one wants to fail. And then everyone talks about

860
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: the time. And what I tell people is one about

861
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: the time. Incorporate this young person and things you are

862
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: already doing. Right. You know your last I start, you

863
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Speaker 1: had a ball. You probably cut your own here, okay YouTube,

864
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 1: But most men they go to the barbershop. Why not

865
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: bring this young man with you to the barbershop. You

866
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: have a conversation on the way there. I'm sure to

867
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: barbera give you a break. You have a conversation on

868
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: the way home. That's spending time that you already are

869
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: going to use. So you incorporate to go to take

870
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 1: them with you the grocery store, teach my budgeting, healthy eating.

871
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,959
Speaker 1: These are things you're already doing. So I'm not asking

872
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: anybody creating new time. I'm asking you for a year commitment, right,

873
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 1: This is a one year commitment at minimum. I love

874
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: you to stay longer, but if you come in a

875
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: young person's life, we know and the research shows if

876
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 1: you leave within a year, you can do more damage.

877
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: So you actually gotta commit to that one year, and

878
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: you gotta commit to about eight to twelve hours a

879
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: month So this is something most people can do. And

880
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: whether it's today or next year, this is something you

881
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: still should go to our website and sign up so

882
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: you can at least get our information and month more

883
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: about it. So so one year commitment, eight to twelve

884
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: hours a month, and then you go through our process.

885
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: We train you so you're not on your own. You

886
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: know how to be a mentor, you know about mandated

887
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: report and all the different things that come up. And

888
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: then when you get matched, we give you a coach

889
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 1: on my team who helps you set up a plan

890
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 1: for the young person, who gives you ideas for outings

891
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: and tickets to football games and baseball games and different

892
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 1: events around the city. So we make it very easy

893
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 1: for you. This is not a money thing. This is

894
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: about just incorporating a young person into your existing time. Wow,

895
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 1: you know what I think about when I'm listening to

896
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 1: you call me. You know you're sticulating a system that's

897
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: successful for everybody. Because again, we always talk about the

898
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: negative side of youth. Were always talking about the negative

899
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: stories because guess what they don't rate. You know, the

900
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:16,760
Speaker 1: Wednesday child doesn't scare people, the kid the water bars

901
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: stopping you at the street, like they scared people. So

902
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: they watch that on TV. And so you have a

903
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 1: negative story to tell, the resist tell you the other story.

904
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,720
Speaker 1: That means that if these kids just had a mentor

905
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: just have somebody whispering their ear just advising them, then

906
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: they can win. And winning is what we're all about.

907
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: That's why I didn't have to do this show on alive.

908
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: I can record this show and just going by my business.

909
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: But that's why I'm trying to elevate the game, as

910
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 1: they say, elevate the level of communication of doing it

911
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: on the HBCU campus. He graduated from the HBC. When

912
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: we come back, I wanted to talk about the impact

913
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: of HBCUs and how important they are and how influential

914
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: they are in the community, both academically and professionally. But

915
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Speaker 1: if you want to talk to us for zero four

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Speaker 1: eight eight zero, that's four zero five, I'm talking to

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Speaker 1: the president and see you. He got two times President CEO,

918
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Speaker 1: Big Brothers, Big Sisters of Metro Atlanta, Kwamie Johnson will

919
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Speaker 1: be right back with more from him My Making conversation.

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Speaker 1: I'm Rashan McDonald. We will be right back with more

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Speaker 1: money making conversation with Rashan McDonald and we're live here

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Speaker 1: outside the Perez family home, just waiting for the And

923
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Speaker 1: there they go, almost on time. This morning. Mom is

924
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Speaker 1: coming out the front door, strong with a double arm

925
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Speaker 1: kid carry. Looks like Dad has the bags daughter he's

926
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Speaker 1: bringing up the rear. Oh, but the diaper bag wasn't closed.

927
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Speaker 1: Tapers and toys are everywhere. Oh but mom has just

928
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Speaker 1: nailed the perfect car seat buckle for the toddler. And

929
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Speaker 1: now the eldest daughter, who looks to be about nine

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931
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Speaker 1: SIPs the bad clothes and they're off. But looks like

932
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933
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Speaker 1: roof of the car. And there it goes. Oh, that's

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Speaker 1: a shame that mug was a fan favorite. Don't sweat

935
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936
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Speaker 1: let's return to Money Making Conversation with Rashan McDonald. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm back. This is Rashan McDonald. You're listening to Money

958
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Speaker 1: Making Conversation live on the phone with my man, Kwamie Johnson.

959
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: He's the president and CEO of Big Brothers Big Sisters

960
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: of Metro Atlanta. We met several years ago and he

961
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: was doing a panel, and he asked me to come

962
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: and host the panel, which was a lot of fun

963
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 1: we did with the gathering spot. What was basically the

964
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: purpose when you do these type of panels? What is

965
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: the purpose of that? And what is the the goal?

966
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: I should say when not so much the purpose, what

967
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: is the goal when you when you invite people like

968
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: me to come in the panel? Trying to get men

969
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: to come in and listen to other men talk about it,

970
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: and it was after felt it was very successful. Was

971
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: something that um my Harry Douglas, one of the former

972
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: Atlanta Factors and rising star in the sports media. He's

973
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: always involved with your programs talk about how you can

974
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: get adult men involved in different ways if you if

975
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: you're not ready for the mentoring, you can participate over

976
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: here and programs that you have set up to gather

977
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 1: other men to come on board and ladies. Let's not

978
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,720
Speaker 1: forget about the ladies, because we have big brothers, big sisters,

979
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,399
Speaker 1: but we do have more of a shortage of men

980
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: than we have women participation. Am I right or wrong

981
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: in that? No, you're you're right, And we wanted to

982
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: bring together leaders who are highly respected in the community,

983
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 1: like you were shown at Harry and Hugh Parker and others,

984
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: because you know, shout out to the ladies. The ladies

985
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: step up big time. They volunteer, they mentor, and they

986
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 1: do a great job. But our biggest need is as

987
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: men and men of color in particular. We knew by

988
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: partnering with you, Brashan, that we can get more men

989
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 1: to be a part of the program. So that panel

990
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: was really about educating men that this is something you

991
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: can do. You know a lot of men they struggle

992
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: with commitment. They're like, man, I'm adopting this child and

993
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: I gotta take this all on, and like, no, that's

994
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 1: not what it's about. This is something that everybody can do,

995
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: everybody can be a part of, and we wanted to

996
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 1: get that message out and it was very effective. We

997
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: recruited a lot of men through that panel we had

998
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: and we got to do more of this. That's why

999
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 1: I'm glad to be back on the show today. Well,

1000
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: the thing about it, first of all, we kind of

1001
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 1: reconnected a little bit when I was talking about my

1002
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: HBCU college day. I wanted to let you know about it.

1003
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: You went, Roshan, send me some flyers, Hey man, we

1004
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: gotta get the word out to my group. And if

1005
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: anybody don't know what HBCU College Day is all about.

1006
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: It gives direct access to junior seniors in high school

1007
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 1: and young adults and they can come on the HBCU

1008
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: campus in this case Clark Atlanta University campus. We always

1009
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: know Morris Brown is here, we know failm is there,

1010
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: we know more House and more House School of Medicine here.

1011
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: And what we're trying to do is enabled people through education.

1012
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: And I tell listen to anybody I was telling college

1013
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 1: changed my life. I didn't go to an HBCU, but

1014
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that I was not directed in the

1015
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: right direction. We're talking about HBCUs and the reason I

1016
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: bringing that up in HBCUs well receiving a lot of

1017
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: donations for the very first time from corporate America, and

1018
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 1: nobody knew why they just was getting that money. And

1019
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 1: so my mission now called me, is to tell people

1020
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: why and why there's so much value in academic success

1021
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 1: out of HBCUs. Now you kind of hit a little

1022
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: bit about you came from Hampton, But if you can

1023
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: really tell people that experience and what they defined you

1024
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 1: as a person, as a black person attending to HBCU.

1025
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: We're broadcasting from the from a campus of an HBCU.

1026
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: Why what makes HBCU so special? Oh man, I could

1027
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: talk so much about just the experience. And when I

1028
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 1: got out of jail, no college wanted to accept me. Yeah,

1029
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: I was a tracked scar in high school and when

1030
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: I got in trouble, all my scholarships went away. But

1031
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: Hampton said, we're gonna give you a shot. And they

1032
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: gave me a shot. They gave me a chance, they

1033
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 1: gave me a scholarship. And when I arrived at Hampton University,

1034
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: home by to see the real ates you. I'll put

1035
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: that out there too. I know, power folks, power folks listening,

1036
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 1: you know, but the real, the real ate you and

1037
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: just being down there and seeing black excellence and seeing

1038
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: people uh from middle class, upper middle class doing well.

1039
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Speaker 1: That's not what I saw growing up in Syracuse, New York.

1040
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: I had no experience with that, and that just gave

1041
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: me a totally different outlook on life and what it

1042
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: was possible. So so Hampton created more hope for me,

1043
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: and it's it's set me on my trajectory that I've

1044
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: been on my whole career. So I I'm a big supporter.

1045
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: My brother graduated from Hampton University, my wife graduated Hampton University.

1046
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: It's an amazing experience. UM and they gave me a shot.

1047
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 1: Without Hampton, I may have not gone to college, and

1048
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: who knows what would happened in my life. But that

1049
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 1: is something I encourage young people to always do, is

1050
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: to get a college degree, because that's something no one

1051
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: can ever take away from you. You may decide to

1052
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: be an entrepreneur or do something different going to the military,

1053
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 1: but the college degree is something no one can ever

1054
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: take from you, and it can be a foundation for

1055
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 1: the rest of your life. I would tell people they

1056
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: can't repoll your college degree. I always tell people all

1057
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 1: the time. I look at it reprot trucking trying to

1058
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 1: come into my house and back up and pull that

1059
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: off the wall. That's not gonna happen. That's something I

1060
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: earned and something I work hard for, and it's something

1061
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: that do blood, sweat and tears. But what what what

1062
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 1: this made me a little bit when all these donations

1063
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: and be thankful for those donations, especially you know McKenzie Scotts.

1064
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: She donated with like four point one billion dollars and

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Speaker 1: and uh Scots and funds to hbc USED. But here's

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Speaker 1: what was missing. This was the information they didn't tell everybody.

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Speaker 1: HBCUs graduate, seventy of the Black Dennis HBCUs graduate, of

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Speaker 1: the black judges, seventy percent of the black doctorate, of

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Speaker 1: the black lawyers, eighteen percent of the Black fortune, five

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Speaker 1: hundred CEOs. I'm talking to one up fort of the

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Speaker 1: black engineers, forty percent of the Black members of Congress,

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Speaker 1: which includes at the time she was now vice president

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Speaker 1: of Kamala Harris, she was senator at the time, of

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Speaker 1: the black public school teachers and Twitter four percent of

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Speaker 1: the Black stamp professionals come from HBCUs. When I say

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Speaker 1: that this is the first thing to happen, people are

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Speaker 1: stunned by those numbers. But that's what's not being told.

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Speaker 1: What we get told. What HBCUs is about about the sports.

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Speaker 1: We can talk about the marching band, We talked about

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Speaker 1: fraternities and sororities. But more importantly, what I brought you

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Speaker 1: on the show, Quami, because I know about your HBCU background,

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Speaker 1: same way I know about the Big Brothers Big Sisters

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00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 1: of Metro Atlanta background. These are stories that need to

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Speaker 1: be told. If people just sit back and really understand

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Speaker 1: the value of participating, the value of going to HBC.

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Speaker 1: You value volunteering, then you will change lives and that's

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Speaker 1: what your whole life is based on, changing lives. Does

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Speaker 1: that tire you out? Does it fatigue you when you

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Speaker 1: realize that sometimes it looks like a bottomless pit because

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Speaker 1: there's so many kids, like they're the only wait list

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Speaker 1: that you can't help, But it does. It becomes a

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Speaker 1: nun stop mission for you. Correct. Yeah, this is a

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Speaker 1: life journey for me. I've been giving a second chance

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Speaker 1: and every day I get to hear a story about

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Speaker 1: a young person that came from a tough situation that

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Speaker 1: achieved against odds. So I know it's possible. We just

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Speaker 1: gotta multiply by a hundred thousands. You just got to

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Speaker 1: create more of these stories. And I know your listeners

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Speaker 1: all have stories and examples that young people need to hear.

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Speaker 1: They need to see us. You know, young people don't

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Speaker 1: go to church because they want to see a testimony.

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Speaker 1: They don't want to hear one. They need to see

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Speaker 1: that what the mess I'm going through, that there's something

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Speaker 1: else on the other side of this, and you, as

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00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 1: leaders can be that example. And some people think it

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00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 1: takes all these different things to make young people go

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Speaker 1: to the next level. In many ways, just showing them

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Speaker 1: that it's possible. They already have the potential. It is

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Speaker 1: already there. You don't have to create it. You don't

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Speaker 1: have to say that that potential is already did. They

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00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: just need to see that it's possible. You need to

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Speaker 1: hear from people that have been through similar situations of

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Speaker 1: them that they were able to go to college, create

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Speaker 1: a career, become an entrepreneur, going to the military, whatever

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Speaker 1: they decided to do. That's our that's our responsib to

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00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 1: the adults is to show them that it's possible. You know,

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Speaker 1: the interesting thing, because I'm always a guy facts and

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Speaker 1: my degrees in mathematics, I'm always a fact guy. Called me.

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Speaker 1: Nearly half a million children in Metro Atlanta living communities

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Speaker 1: with low or very low child well at least a

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Speaker 1: very low child well being. You know, your mission is

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Speaker 1: to recruit volunteers to become mentors to children facing adversity. Now,

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Speaker 1: celebrities use their influence everyday. People who use their influence,

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Speaker 1: what do you believe And when we talk about this

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Speaker 1: waiting list, is there a number you can hell us

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Speaker 1: so people can understand how desperate we need men to

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00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 1: step up. And the number if you want to call in,

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Speaker 1: it's four zero four eight eight zero nine five again

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Speaker 1: four zero, four eight eight zero is the number to

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Speaker 1: call in if you want to speak to call me

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Speaker 1: on myself. But men, like you said, women are stepping up,

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00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 1: men are lagging behind. And we all know that when

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Speaker 1: you start talking about police violence that has been is

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Speaker 1: all generally only young man, uh person of color, who's male.

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Speaker 1: So talk about really, what what what can you feel

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Speaker 1: that we need to do more? Do we need to

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Speaker 1: I need an interview you once a month to get

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Speaker 1: the word out consistently. What is the what is the

1139
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 1: thing that we you feel can help you turn around

1140
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 1: to get consistent participation for men, for the big brothers

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Speaker 1: and big sisters in metro Atlanta. So you know, too

1142
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: often as a society we study failure. You know, we

1143
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 1: talk about all the challenges and we talk about the

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Speaker 1: water boys and the violence in Atlanta. If you go

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Speaker 1: to the west side of Atlanta, you go to South

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Speaker 1: suthe Atlanta. I guarantee there are many families who have

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00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:06,919
Speaker 1: figured out a way to make it happen. They're sending

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Speaker 1: kids to college and and doing all kinds of kinds

1149
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 1: of wonderful things. Right, So we gotta change the story.

1150
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Speaker 1: We gotta change the image of black men and peopular

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00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 1: black boys in America because I was one of those waterboys.

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Speaker 1: Even worse, I was doing dump stuff and getting in trouble,

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00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 1: going to jail. You know, these kids have entrepreneurial spirits.

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Speaker 1: They're doing things I think they should be doing differently.

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Speaker 1: But I'm no different than them. Rishan, You're no different

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Speaker 1: than them, right, So I get on whenever I can,

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Speaker 1: and I share my story because that changes what people think.

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Speaker 1: It changes the perception of what you see on TV

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Speaker 1: all the time. I almost I'm a black guy with

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Speaker 1: a ballhead, right, I want to change with that, percep.

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Speaker 1: But I'm a CEO, and I went to her, I

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Speaker 1: went to Hampton, all these different things. I've been able

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Speaker 1: to accomplish the most of my CEO in Atlanta for

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Speaker 1: the nonprofit category all. And I'm no different than what

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Speaker 1: you you know see on TV. But I was able

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Speaker 1: to have people who came on my life who helped

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Speaker 1: me get on the right track. And that's what we're

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Speaker 1: talking about We have two hundred boys on a waiting list,

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00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 1: some have been waiting for a year. And these young

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00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: people are reaching out and saying we need help. And

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Speaker 1: they're not saying they need money and all these different

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Speaker 1: They're saying, we need someone to suspend some time with

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Speaker 1: me and show me how you did it. And that's

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00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 1: something any man can do. I just think a lot

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Speaker 1: of times, men and men of color in particular, they

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Speaker 1: think it's taken on a big responsibility and they have

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Speaker 1: to adopt the child, and they've got things going on

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Speaker 1: in their life already. But what I'm saying and is

1179
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Speaker 1: not that you're being a guy. You're being a resource,

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Speaker 1: not not actually be somebody's father. You know that we're

1181
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: not asking that, we asked you to step up, give

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Speaker 1: them some of your time that you're already gonna spend

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Speaker 1: and bring them on this journey of life with you,

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Speaker 1: and that situations come up in their life, give them

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Speaker 1: some guidance, give them some advice, you curage to understanding

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Speaker 1: school decisions. I want to thank you for coming on

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Speaker 1: the show. He's the CEO and president Big Brothers and

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Speaker 1: Big Sisters Metro Atlanta. Again. When your book come out,

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Speaker 1: you know you got a place next to me on

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Speaker 1: my show, and thank you for coming on Money Making

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