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Speaker 4: we got your college football forecast. We even have Dan

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Speaker 4: Wilkin from Yahoo Sports joining us talking college football plus

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Speaker 4: the NFL six pack Week twelve. Did I get that right?

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Speaker 4: Week Week twelve? Okay, okay, Geek News and you know

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Speaker 4: where it is. We're unveiling the list because next week

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Speaker 4: is Thanksgivings, right, So I have Adam's Thanksgiving foursome movie list,

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Speaker 4: the under the radar not so traditional Thanksgiving movies. I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna release at the end of this.

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Speaker 2: Hour because I'll be honest with you, like and not

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Speaker 2: to you know, burn any of your picks.

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Speaker 3: When it comes to these movies.

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Speaker 2: I feel like there's not a lot of at least

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Speaker 2: from in popular vernacular Thanksgiving movies that are outside of

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Speaker 2: like planes, trains, and automobiles. I feel like there's not

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Speaker 2: really a whole lot of mass appeal popular things giving

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Speaker 3: Even know about.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's why I got to hook it up. Okay, Hey,

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Speaker 4: Charlie Brown's Thanksgiving is a good one.

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Speaker 3: It's a solid one.

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Speaker 4: Planes Trains with the f bomb scene is an all

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Speaker 4: timer that really brings the family together. But I got

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Speaker 4: four four that you should know about, okay, that you

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Speaker 4: should be watching next Thursday. Since we won't be on

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Speaker 4: again until then, I thought we could release it tonight.

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Speaker 3: He works for me, coming up right now.

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Speaker 4: Let's see if this works. Little NFL.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the time.

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Speaker 5: That's wrong.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of four, how many losses the buffal Bills have

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Speaker 3: right now?

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Speaker 4: After?

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Speaker 2: I guess I can't really say they got their asses

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Speaker 3: It was a one possession game and it came down

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Speaker 2: They didn't look good, And maybe it's one of those

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Speaker 2: you know, they're so talented and so good, they can

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Speaker 2: play terribly and still be in a game at the

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Speaker 2: very end. If you want to look at it from

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Speaker 2: a positive standpoint, a glass half full standpoint.

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Speaker 4: Not to mention, the Texans defense looked like the eighty

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Speaker 4: five Bears. I know they're good, but that was special.

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Speaker 4: That was different. You don't see that every year Like

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Speaker 4: that is a major rarity from them. Josh Allen, some

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Speaker 4: of that is him trying to do too much because

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Speaker 4: he has to right now. Yeah, he doesn't have a

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Speaker 4: lot of weapons as he has in past years. They're

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Speaker 4: six and four. They're currently in the sixth spot, six

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Speaker 4: seed if the playoffs were to start today in the AFC.

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Speaker 4: But I'm with you, they still are in that ballgame

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Speaker 4: despite eight sacks, which does tell you just how good,

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Speaker 4: how talented they are. And Josh Allen is still fourth

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Speaker 4: in MVP odds despite him being a little bit up

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Speaker 4: and down over the last five weeks or so.

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Speaker 2: You could say, yeah, I think part of it with

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Speaker 2: James Cook had I think just over a thousand yards

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Speaker 2: rushing last season. Do you realize he's the second leading

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Speaker 4: Really, Jonathan Taylor is I think third now in the MVPs.

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, Jonathan Taylor has about eleven hundred in change,

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Speaker 2: and I believe that James Cook is not that not

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Speaker 4: This is the work of a Cook.

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Speaker 2: And so they've been able to run the ball generally speaking,

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Speaker 2: to drop that one. But I do think the design

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Speaker 2: the more and more he would shoot. You would say, hey,

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Speaker 2: he scored fifty points. He was like, yeah, but he

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Speaker 2: took forty eight shots. It's like, that's not necessarily the

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Speaker 4: You're selling them short. Kevin, he can take fifty shots

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Speaker 4: in his final game to get his sixty points. But

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Speaker 4: it was pretty awesome, including the game winner against Utah.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it was.

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Speaker 2: Some guys can work really well in high volume situation

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Speaker 2: fifty times probably get probably.

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Speaker 3: A pretty pretty decent Uh.

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Speaker 4: You know results you won't from Jacoby Brissette. No record,

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Speaker 4: but in a loss a hell of a week last week.

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Speaker 4: If you're a fantasy owner, that's for damn sure. That

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Speaker 4: was completion completed forty seven passes, so not completions and attempts.

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Speaker 4: Somebody has done that before.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the actual completions I believe was forty seven

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Speaker 4: He completed in two yards. Dump off Doug tom Brady

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Speaker 3: Well, Trevy Bride had a big had a big weekend.

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Speaker 2: But they wanted to take the burden off of Josh

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Speaker 2: Allen because the more and more that he has to pass,

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Speaker 2: the more and more that he has to do. Yes,

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Speaker 2: he can have weeks like you had against Tampa Bay,

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Speaker 3: In that defensive front that look like I.

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Speaker 4: Mentioned the eighty five Bears earlier, that's one of the

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Speaker 4: tight ends. Of course he missed one on that final pass.

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Speaker 4: Now it would have been offensive PI anyways, but he

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying take away the MVP votes because of this,

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Speaker 4: Great in that game, obviously six total touchdowns, historic stuff.

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Speaker 1: Don't get cocky, this is one of my.

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Speaker 3: Best I have to out because you're the only one

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Speaker 4: Nobody else can have pat me on the back for that. Here,

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Speaker 2: Well, I guess it begs the question too. Sitting at

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Speaker 2: still very much in the wildcard race. Is it kind

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Speaker 4: This has been their time to dominate the division. So

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Speaker 4: I think with much of the conversation this week regarding

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Speaker 4: they're still in their prime. Josh Allen has looked the

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Speaker 4: But I would say it's more of a missed opportunity

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Speaker 4: so long. We expected this season, especially after what happened

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Speaker 2: The issue is because, and I think we talked about

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Speaker 4: They changed the rule after that. Yeah, who could have

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Speaker 2: So they've had some their share of bad luck. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to build that infrastructure, and you had

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Speaker 4: Ask Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay for all those year

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Speaker 3: Generally speaking, I don't disagree with that notion.

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Speaker 2: I'd much rather be great upfront and the trenches on

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Speaker 4: Josh Allen will be seeing Aaron Rodgers this weekend. Broken

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Speaker 4: Well, there's so many issues from I'm looking at a

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Speaker 4: I'm meeting him and those roles, And I put like

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Speaker 4: half a stick of butter on each of those crescent rolls.

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Speaker 4: Like half like half I spend day year respect How

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Speaker 2: Are you one of those guys who doesn't who like

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Speaker 4: Kevin, I'm not eating Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, I'm not.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna let this build and then I'm just going

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Speaker 3: Just crash on the couch, drool coming down the side

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Speaker 4: Now, I did ask you a question, yes, before the

444
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Speaker 4: end of last segment, quiz where are we going next?

445
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Speaker 4: Brown's Vangles or bullet If you don't want to talk

446
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Speaker 4: about either of those toms.

447
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Speaker 2: To quote a former Great Heck football coach who's now

448
00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,520
Speaker 2: struggling a little bit, Let's go on to Cincinnati.

449
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Speaker 4: Oh okay, Bill Belichick.

450
00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:01,360
Speaker 5: Yeah.

451
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Speaker 2: Because some surprising news and maybe I'm the only one

452
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Speaker 2: I don't know if I call you by surprise the

453
00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,800
Speaker 2: fact that Joe Burrow randomly pops up at practice as

454
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Speaker 2: a full participant on Wednesday of this week, and I'm like, wait,

455
00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:13,960
Speaker 2: what's just sell tickets?

456
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Speaker 4: What's going on?

457
00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,440
Speaker 3: Maybe the three and seven? Right, we talked about their beers.

458
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Speaker 2: They are sixteen ounce beers that costs like five dollars

459
00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:20,720
Speaker 2: or something a couple of weeks ago on.

460
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Speaker 3: The show, which is insanely that's a great deal.

461
00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,320
Speaker 4: It is make Costco beer. You can't get a beer

462
00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,240
Speaker 4: at Costco that chief with a hot dog and so too.

463
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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow was supposed to be out until December. I

464
00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,920
Speaker 2: think the most optimistic outlook was Thanksgiving, but the general

465
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Speaker 2: view for a lot of people was probably the first

466
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Speaker 2: or second week of December. And now all of a sudden,

467
00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,000
Speaker 2: he potentially could be suiting up this weekend. At him,

468
00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:46,800
Speaker 2: he's questionable on the injury report.

469
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Speaker 4: Well, the other part of the equation is but why,

470
00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,480
Speaker 4: but why? Ryan Reynolds says, Yeah, that's a good question.

471
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Speaker 4: They're not making the playoffs.

472
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Speaker 3: Now they're not mathematically dead. Okay, now it's math, it's arithmetic.

473
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Speaker 2: For all intents and purposes, they're dead. I see him

474
00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,640
Speaker 2: clocking into a three and seven record, and right now

475
00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,240
Speaker 2: the final seat in the AFC playoffs is Jacksonville with

476
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Speaker 2: a six and four record.

477
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Speaker 3: That's a lot of ground to have to make up

478
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Speaker 3: with not a lot of time.

479
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Speaker 4: Do you think if they were mathematically eliminated, he would

480
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Speaker 4: not be coming back. Do you think that's the issue

481
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Speaker 4: they're selling their fans on. There's still hope. Hey, the

482
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,840
Speaker 4: Ravens feel like they can get in. We got all

483
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Speaker 4: these divisional games left if we just run the table.

484
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Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing, because seven we just washed up

485
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Speaker 2: Josh Allen pretty good. In the first segment of the show,

486
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Speaker 2: we talked about it. If you have a great quarterback,

487
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Speaker 2: you always have a chance.

488
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but what if you have the Bengals defense?

489
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Speaker 1: All?

490
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Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, you know, I said, the Buffalo Bills

491
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Speaker 2: with thirtieth against the run, The Bengals are thirty third

492
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Speaker 2: against the run, thirty third against the past thirty They're

493
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,119
Speaker 2: a category in and of their in themselves when it

494
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Speaker 2: comes to all the bad defensive category.

495
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Speaker 4: They make every quarterback they're going up against look better

496
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Speaker 4: than Joe Burrow.

497
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Speaker 3: Yeah, like you are.

498
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Speaker 4: An MVP that week against the Bengals defense.

499
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Speaker 3: Assessed Adam.

500
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Speaker 2: I just kind of look at it from a risk

501
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 2: reward standpoint, Is the risk of him getting hurt again,

502
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 2: which is extremely high playing behind that offensive line, worth

503
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Speaker 2: him being out into next season?

504
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Speaker 3: And for me, I would say no, Now I know

505
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Speaker 3: he's champion at the bits and want to play. He's

506
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Speaker 3: a competitor, he wants to play. You get out there

507
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Speaker 3: on the field.

508
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Speaker 4: Fine.

509
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Speaker 2: This is one of those things where if I'm the

510
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 2: ownership general manager, I'm like, I'm I'm pulling rank on you.

511
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Speaker 3: Joe ain't playing.

512
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Speaker 4: I remember when this happened with Steph Curry where he

513
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 4: had that broken risk that lasted the entire season back

514
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,119
Speaker 4: in I don't know, twenty twenty one, twenty two, somewhere

515
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 4: in there before they won their last championship, which wasn't

516
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 4: twenty twenty two. They held him out and they might

517
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 4: ended up with a good draft pick because of it.

518
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Speaker 4: I don't know if they wasted it or not. Probably

519
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 4: they ended up maybe they got pods passage, Okay, I

520
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 4: like pods. Like there was no way he was out

521
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Speaker 4: the entire season because of this risk injury. But once

522
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,119
Speaker 4: they saw they didn't have a chance to make the

523
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Speaker 4: playoffs even with a play in situation now in the NBA,

524
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 4: or you could get into the tenth seed and work

525
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 4: your way up, they just gave in. He's older, he's

526
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Speaker 4: injury prone. He had those cankles going on early on

527
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Speaker 4: in his career. I don't understand it either. When a

528
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Speaker 4: guy is this brittle behind a mediocre offensive line.

529
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Speaker 2: They're not god awful, certainly looks they're better than they

530
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Speaker 2: were last year. How dare you tell the truth on

531
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Speaker 2: this radio show in my presence while you're wearing a

532
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 2: raider wasn't necessary, but still bad enough to end up

533
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Speaker 2: getting this guy hurt again.

534
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Speaker 4: And then you're kicking your own ass. Yes you are,

535
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:44,640
Speaker 4: because we're chasing what exactly. You're just trying to sell

536
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Speaker 4: tickets to those fans that beat each other up in

537
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Speaker 4: Joe Burrow jerseys earlier in the season. That's what we

538
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 4: need to happen.

539
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Speaker 2: Is that also the guy One guy was wearing a

540
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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow jersey, Another guy was wearing a jersey with

541
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Speaker 2: sixty nine and your mom on the back?

542
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Speaker 3: Was that? Also?

543
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Speaker 4: Was that the same that guy's allegen?

544
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Speaker 3: Yes, go to make sure we're referencing the exact same

545
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 3: brawl here around the same.

546
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Speaker 4: You could find a guy like that in every NFL

547
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,120
Speaker 4: stadium and all the way. This guy was like forty two,

548
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 4: Like this wasn't like some college kid or something. This

549
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 4: guy has like three kids in a mortgage, right, What

550
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 4: the hell are we doing, That's what they're trying to do.

551
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 4: What's in seats? I guess?

552
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Speaker 2: But are people not showing up to Bengal games? I mean,

553
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Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like in football markets like that.

554
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Speaker 2: And this is no disrespect to Cincinnati, Ohio, but there's

555
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,919
Speaker 2: not like a whole lot else going on, Like, are

556
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 2: people not going to Bengal games?

557
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Speaker 3: What else did you doing on a Sunday afternoon?

558
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Speaker 4: They brought in Joe Flacco? Did they not?

559
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 1: Well?

560
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Speaker 4: They did? Were they not good for the rest of

561
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 4: the season?

562
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Speaker 3: Well, I was Joe.

563
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Speaker 4: Feeling right now? I don't think did he know that

564
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Speaker 4: Joe brought a chance to come back?

565
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:44,360
Speaker 1: Well?

566
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Speaker 2: So it's interesting because Zach Taylor on Thursday said, you know, oh,

567
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Speaker 2: you know what, now Flacco's looking a little bit better.

568
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Speaker 2: We'll see what happens. He kind of seems to be

569
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 2: nudging himself towards the possibility that Flaco's gonna end up

570
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 2: starting this weekend and not Joe Burrow. But just based

571
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 2: on the fact that Joe Burrow was a full participant

572
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 2: in practice even once this week, Why would you do

573
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Speaker 2: that if you didn't have designs of him getting back

574
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Speaker 2: into the game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, at some point like, we'll get more into this later.

576
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Speaker 4: But speaking of guys, I don't know if Joe Flacco

577
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Speaker 4: took all the first team reps like shaduor Sanders did

578
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 4: this week, So everybody can relax. He got the first

579
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Speaker 4: team reps in because you know, backups don't typically get them.

580
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Speaker 4: So I don't know what everybody's crying about. Oh, they

581
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 4: set him up to fail. This is sabotage. They're trying

582
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 4: to screw up his career and stick it to Dion Sanders.

583
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 4: It's another conspiracy. It's like, no, it's not. Everybody that

584
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Speaker 4: I listened to as a former player this week about this,

585
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 4: Greg Jennings, Steve Smith, Dan Rolofski, they all said, yeah,

586
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 4: backups aren't getting reps during the season. You know what

587
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 4: they're doing scout team work. They're trying to show our

588
00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 4: defense how the other team might play on offense. So

589
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 4: typically you're mimicking whatever quarterback that your team is going

590
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 4: to see that week. This was not out of the ordinary.

591
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 4: This was not unique to the Browns and Chadure Sanders.

592
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 4: I for the life of me, I cannot understand the

593
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 4: Chaduer Sanders cult that has been going on. But I

594
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 4: said the same thing with Tebow too, Like people freak

595
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 4: out about a guy who hasn't done that much yet

596
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:28,120
Speaker 4: because of college, because of brand recognition, because of his dad.

597
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Speaker 4: In this case, I am rooting for him. Has God

598
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 4: on his side at him, Okay, and that's why do

599
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 4: you beat that. Only God can judge him.

600
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Speaker 3: You can be a guest, that's right.

601
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Speaker 4: I'm just saying, I really really despise the people on

602
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Speaker 4: both sides where you have the defenders to the death

603
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Speaker 4: of Shaduur Sanders, who played a second half of a

604
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Speaker 4: football game and went four sixteen, although the tape looked

605
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 4: a little bit better if you watched it.

606
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Speaker 2: We'll also consider talking about a guy and not getting

607
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Speaker 2: first team reps. That's his first action against a team

608
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 2: that's on the come.

609
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Speaker 4: But when do we ever do it? When do we

610
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 4: ever cover for a backup quarterback the way people are

611
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 4: caping up for sh Door Sanders? When do we ever

612
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 4: brought that up before? Well, you didn't get first team

613
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,199
Speaker 4: reps this week when a backup quarterback comes into struggle.

614
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Speaker 4: I've never heard such a thing.

615
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Speaker 3: I'm trying to think.

616
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'll be look, I don't know if people

617
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 2: are caping up for him, I think more or less

618
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 2: just try just trying to tell the truth. First of all,

619
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Speaker 2: it probably validates what people's thoughts were about Shadur coming

620
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Speaker 2: into the season, is that he was not ready. And

621
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Speaker 2: by the way, if he were ready, he wouldn't have

622
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Speaker 2: been a scout team guy, not even third string when

623
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Speaker 2: the season started.

624
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Speaker 3: This was no conspiracy.

625
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 2: Look, the Browns really didn't want him, and when there's

626
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 2: NFL conspiracies and all that, and they were forced.

627
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Speaker 4: To after their conspiracies.

628
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Speaker 3: I know that Dion.

629
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Speaker 4: Said they turned down going to Baltimore, Baltimore and Philadelphia

630
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 4: by the way, Yeah, I don't want to hear that

631
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 4: the NFL passed on them. They tried to dictate where

632
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 4: he could go and that turned into a conspiracy.

633
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the

634
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 2: doubt and say, like, yeah, you're gonna be shell shocked

635
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 2: one if you're not prepared to play at the NFL level.

636
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 2: In general, the only reason you were elevated to the

637
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 2: backup quarterback is because everybody else in front of you

638
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 2: got injured. And now you're playing against the Baltimore Ravens

639
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 2: team that's one of the hottest teams in the NFL

640
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 2: over the past month, So it all lined up for

641
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 2: him to not have a good performance last week.

642
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 3: I just I don't know what you were expecting to

643
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 3: see from.

644
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 4: Him, not four of sixteen. But well, I mean, look,

645
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 4: I am rooting for him. That it's the people that

646
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 4: are so ingrained in their opinion on him when we

647
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 4: haven't even got much tape yet to see what his

648
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 4: real ability is at this level. It's insane, these extreme

649
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 4: sides that are these forces that are going after one another.

650
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 2: Well, nomo has any patience to say, let's just see

651
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 2: this whole situation play itself out.

652
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 3: You just that's not fun.

653
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 2: Well, that's no fun in that the guy's either a

654
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 2: bum or he's the second coming of Randall Cunningham.

655
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 4: ER's something, okay, But you don't have to accuse the

656
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 4: Browns of setting him up to fail and making these

657
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 4: just ludicrous, asinine points. It's to run a talk show

658
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 4: and to get clicks. And I know, I know Steven Asmith,

659
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,479
Speaker 4: of course he's going to do this type of stuff.

660
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 4: It still bothers me sometimes.

661
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you're letting him get to you.

662
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 4: And look and look the people who are too hard

663
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 4: on chadure when he's only thrown sixteen passes. When I said, hey,

664
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Speaker 4: I saw that game in the preseason against the Panthers.

665
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Speaker 4: I saw a few things there. I saw the ability.

666
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Speaker 4: Yeah that night, yep, those people need to relax too.

667
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Speaker 4: Let it play out.

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Speaker 3: That was the preseason. You're playing.

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Speaker 4: A different situation in the second and half. I watched

670
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Speaker 4: the tape of every throw of his I was like,

671
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Speaker 4: you know what, that throw on third down before the

672
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Speaker 4: fourth down play the end of the ball game, that

673
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Speaker 4: could have been a touchdown. That easily could have been

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Speaker 4: a touchdown. So the jury's out in my mind on

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Speaker 4: whether or not he's going to be a good quarterback.

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Speaker 4: This week will tell you a lot, though, because he's

677
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Speaker 4: going up against the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well it will in many senses, and we'll get

679
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Speaker 2: into that coming up in the NFL six Pack later

680
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 2: on too. The jury is gonna be out, first of all.

681
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 2: There there's always levels to it. So whether or not

682
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Speaker 2: he can be a good quarterback, let's start at being competent.

683
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Speaker 2: Let's just be a c because again, this is an

684
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Speaker 2: organization that had this guy running scout team, not even

685
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 2: third string. He wasn't even suiting up so he ascended

686
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 2: from Matt to being the backup quarterback again only because

687
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 2: there is a bunch of injuries. Yeah, and obviously they

688
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 2: traded Joe Flacco away, which you know, I guess you

689
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Speaker 2: can kind of combine that in that same scenario.

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Speaker 4: And Dylan Gabriel didn't look that bad his first few games, honestly.

691
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Speaker 3: And then he kind of did, you know, you know.

692
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 4: Regression to the meaner love diminishing returns going on. But

693
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Speaker 4: still they don't have a lot of weapons around him

694
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Speaker 4: for the people that want to hate on should do

695
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Speaker 4: or It's like he's being asked to now do what

696
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Speaker 4: Flacco couldn't do and Dylan Gabriel couldn't do, which is

697
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Speaker 4: really get this offense moving. So if he doesn't, those

698
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 4: people that hate him for some reason, he'd be like,

699
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Speaker 4: see what he sucks? It's like, what about the last

700
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Speaker 4: two guys? The common denominator is this Cleveland Brown's offense

701
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Speaker 4: is just not that good.

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Speaker 2: The people that hate him, And I'm just projecting here,

703
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 2: but my assumption is he had a lot of flak

704
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Speaker 2: against him coming out of the entire NFL draft process.

705
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Speaker 2: They didn't like the fact how we handled himself with

706
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Speaker 2: the combine and turning down interviews and workouts assuming he

707
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Speaker 2: was going to be a top ten pick, and that

708
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Speaker 2: wasn't the case. And people think that a lot of

709
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Speaker 2: teams in the league purposefully may have had him higher

710
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Speaker 2: on their board but passed them by to sort of,

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Speaker 2: quote unquote teach him a lesson. Only the teams actually

712
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Speaker 2: know that. I don't know if that's true or not.

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Speaker 4: The Eagles didn't want to do that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So.

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Speaker 2: I ultimately think that it's just it's a matter of

716
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Speaker 2: just getting him in there and get him some experience.

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Speaker 2: I think the Raiders is a very very very very

718
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 2: soft landing for him to see where. Now, granted, the

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Speaker 2: Raiders that can have had some good defensive efforts at

720
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Speaker 2: times this year too. I don't know if I necessarily

721
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Speaker 2: want to call it a full on soft landing when

722
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Speaker 2: I got Max Crosby breathing down my.

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Speaker 4: Neck and a bad offensive line in front of him.

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Speaker 4: The Raiders one straight could be the weakness for him

725
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Speaker 4: having a good week if he's under pressure the entire time.

726
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Speaker 2: But hey, try by fire right, you know. Yeah, there's

727
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Speaker 2: a element of one to see some positive things. Look,

728
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Speaker 2: we go back to your preseason comments it's like, all right,

729
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Speaker 2: if he can show a couple of things, show that

730
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Speaker 2: he's capable, even if his numbers are not the greatest.

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Speaker 3: I mean, just show some improvement. I said, this is

732
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Speaker 3: about Kaleb Williams this year.

733
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Speaker 2: If you look at his completetion percentage, like his completion

734
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Speaker 2: percentage in that high it's like sixty one percent or

735
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Speaker 2: something like that, which in today's NFL is not that great.

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Speaker 2: But if you look at it from last year to

737
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 2: this year, he is so markedly better about his pocket presence,

738
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Speaker 2: getting a read of the ball. There's an incremental progression

739
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Speaker 2: that you want to be able to see and look,

740
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Speaker 2: that's Caleb Williams. He was the first overall pick in

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Speaker 2: the draft and somebody a guy that a lot of

742
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Speaker 2: people touted as a generational talent. Shadra Sanders was a

743
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Speaker 2: guy even I remember during the draft process there was

744
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Speaker 2: a lot of debate about how good he actually was.

745
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Speaker 2: There was and as you know, cam Ward was a

746
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Speaker 2: first overall pick at the quarterback position. People were saying,

747
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Speaker 2: if it was the year before, cam Ward would have

748
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Speaker 2: been like the fifth quarterback on the board.

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Speaker 4: To me, it's pretty simple, say it A lot is

750
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 4: the juice worth the squeeze or is it just lemon

751
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 4: juice going in your eyes when it comes to Schadur

752
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 4: Sanders out there because there is a distraction element. Some

753
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 4: of it, a lot of it is not his fault.

754
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Speaker 4: Some of it is for tanking interviews in the draft

755
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 4: and this conspiracy stuff started. But I think what team

756
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 4: saw more so than anything, is maybe he has fatal flaws.

757
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 4: Maybe he has unbreakable habits like backpedaling faster than Dion

758
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 4: hold On. He's a quarterback, not a quarterback.

759
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 2: Holding onto the ball too long was one of the

760
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Speaker 2: great drawbacks of his at Colorado.

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Speaker 3: That's why he got sex so much, all.

762
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Speaker 4: The sacks him just not having enough pocket presence and awareness,

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Speaker 4: which doesn't get easier at the NFL level. You already

764
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 4: saw it in that game against Baltimore, who did throw

765
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Speaker 4: the kitchen sink at him. They had like eight guys

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Speaker 4: in the box a ton just like, hey, I guess

767
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 4: you can guess on who's coming on the blitz. This

768
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Speaker 4: this down fun with the Raider should be a little

769
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 4: bit easier. He got all the practice time in. There's

770
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Speaker 4: less excuses this week for those that think he got

771
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Speaker 4: Delta bad hand last week but let's just see what happens.

772
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Speaker 4: It's it's a real unknown, and I'm really interested to

773
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Speaker 4: see how he plays because of that.

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Speaker 2: Even if he comes in on Sunday and doesn't look

775
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 2: that great against the Raiders, it still is not an

776
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Speaker 2: indictment on what his career is going to end up being.

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Speaker 4: Just show me a flashes, like, put out some good tape,

778
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 4: put out some good plays. I'm not asking for great,

779
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 4: I'm not asking for very good. Solid, be solid out there.

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Speaker 4: You said competent, Yes, competent. Look like there's something there,

781
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Speaker 4: a real foundation to build off of. With the tools

782
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Speaker 4: he has at the quarterback position.

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Speaker 3: Why she's gonna light up the Raiders for like four

784
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Speaker 3: hundred and thirty yards or something.

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Speaker 4: But it's just the Raiders that doesn't count, right. I

786
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 4: won't say.

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Speaker 3: That's a glorified bye week, I guess these days, I.

788
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Speaker 4: Will say that I'm excited for him. That's probably one

789
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 4: of the games I'm looking forward to most on Sunday, honestly,

790
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 4: Brown Raiders.

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00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 3: For that reason, I won't to say you're the one. Huh.

792
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 4: Look it's Shador. He is, like he's super cool. I'm sorry,

793
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 4: but you can he can sell me a pack of cigarettes.

794
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 4: Like he's he's got more swagging or than anybody I've

795
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 4: ever seen.

796
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Speaker 2: Get me to swag, give me the or, but also

797
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 2: show me that you can play. Yeah, because all of

798
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 2: that means nothing. And if anything, you look like a

799
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 2: fool coming in, blinged out and all that stuff, and

800
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 2: you end up you're going four to sixteen to turning

801
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:29,439
Speaker 2: the ball over five times.

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Speaker 4: Well, if Max Crosby sacks him, and he probably will,

803
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 4: he'll probably do his celebration and use it against him

804
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 4: where he's putting his rollie in the sky, just like

805
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 4: we saw at the Baltimore Ravens. Like, yeah, that's what happens.

806
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 4: You go out there saying you want to be legendary.

807
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 4: Well what does that say about the guys that are

808
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 4: playing good defense against you? I guess they're the real

809
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 4: legends if they stopped a legend in Shador Sanders, a

810
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Speaker 4: legend legendary.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well try your best.

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Speaker 4: All right, I'm still into it. I'm into this too.

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Speaker 4: Coming up next geek News Thanksgiving movies. I got four

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Speaker 4: you probably haven't seen. I Metam Miles and these Kevin figures.

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Speaker 4: This is Evan.

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Speaker 7: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 7: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio

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Speaker 1: Maybe you and I could partner up FNA Cotton FN.

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Speaker 2: It's Kevin Figures Adam Afflin back with you guys here

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Speaker 2: on Fox Football Saturday. FNA on FSR coming up next hour,

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Speaker 2: we will get into the NFL six pack. We'll also

824
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Speaker 2: talk a lot of college football with our guy, Dan

825
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 2: Wolkin from Yahoo Sports. Talk about the Lane Kiffin coaching drama.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot.

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00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's plenty, and I feel like there's new news

828
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Speaker 2: coming out every fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 4: There seems Dan's on top of it though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So we'll talk to Dan about that, among other

831
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Speaker 2: big stories around the college football world. You can hit

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Speaker 2: us up on X by the way, at k fig

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Speaker 2: one and at Adam Ay. And before we get in

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Speaker 2: to geek News and Adam's Thanksgiving list, we do have

835
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Speaker 2: a tweet in from Jason B.

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Speaker 3: Diamond.

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Speaker 2: He says, I thought we were going to go with

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Speaker 2: top Thanksgiving foods, and my top answer was going to

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Speaker 2: be deviled eggs.

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Speaker 3: I could eat fifty or more.

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Speaker 4: I'm good with that. Yeah, that's that's one of my

842
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 4: go to appetizers on Thanksgiving.

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00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 3: Never been a double edgy guy.

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Speaker 4: No, no, not used to be when I was a kid.

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Speaker 4: Now it's a delicacy. You remember that old what was it?

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00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,479
Speaker 4: It was an old Miller High Life with a guy

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00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,439
Speaker 4: eating deviled eggs. I remember seeing this in the early

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Speaker 4: two thousands.

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Speaker 3: I don't remember that one.

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Speaker 4: Those look scrumptious. Now I can't drink the Verity bar.

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00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 3: But you know, I mean, with all due respect, like

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Speaker 3: you're missing much.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the high life, Yes, exactly, the high Life isn't

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Speaker 4: all the deviled eggs are all right? We got four

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Speaker 4: Thanksgiving movies for you. If you're looking for some fresh

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00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 4: Thanksgiving movie choices as fresh as the garb whipped mashed

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00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 4: potatoes you might have. Oh now we're talking from scratch,

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Speaker 4: dive into Adams not so traditional Thanksgiving movies, My Thanksgiving foursome.

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00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 4: These are not the obvious choices. It's not playing trains

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00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 4: and Automobiles, it's not Charlie Brown's and His Thanksgiving. These

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00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 4: are movies that are under the radar and might make

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Speaker 4: your Thanksgiving a little bit more memorable. You might start

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Speaker 4: a new tradition with your loved ones watching one of these. Okay,

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Speaker 4: so you know what like the Deviled eggs or pigs

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Speaker 4: in a blanket, whatever appetiser you like on Thanksgiving. My

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Speaker 4: movies have a viewing order to them. Oh okay, your

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Speaker 4: meal might so all right, so you have your orders. Yeah,

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00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 4: this is a starter. Okay, Pieces of April. Why are

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Speaker 4: you sure this is a family friendly movie that we

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Speaker 4: can a's PG thirteen All right? This is about serving

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Speaker 4: warning to possible racist uncle who you're hoping didn't show up,

872
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,439
Speaker 4: but did. He's already drunk off the Spike day nog

873
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 4: because in this movie you see the beauty in diversity.

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00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 4: Katie Holmes is introducing her family to her black boyfriend

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Speaker 4: for the first time. Will everyone's over for Thanksgiving? It's

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00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 4: got humor and heart and prime Katie Holmes before Tom

877
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 4: Cruise corrupted her then broke her heart. I don't know.

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00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:21,280
Speaker 4: They're not together anymore?

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00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 3: Right, I don't believe so.

880
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 4: After the Silent Birth? Was that Tom? It's currently streaming

881
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 4: on to be for free Pieces of ape Hey, if

882
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 4: it's for me? The Second Course Movie Number two is

883
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 4: a movie I like to describe as the Big Lebowski

884
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 4: of documentaries. It's from nineteen ninety nine and it's called

885
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 4: American Movie. It's a documentary. We saw this a long

886
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 4: time ago, Kevin.

887
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 3: This is the.

888
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 4: One Midwesterners that are so intentionally funny. You'll have gravy

889
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 4: shooting out your nose if it's on the thinner side

890
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,240
Speaker 4: of your gravy. Do you like a thinner or thicker

891
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 4: grave to be honest with you, Okay, fair enough? Like

892
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 4: fat fries?

893
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 3: No, oh, always the fat fries. You know me.

894
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 4: It's a bunch of quirky, kooky, salt of the earth

895
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 4: Midwesterners trying to make a black and white horror short

896
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 4: called Covin, and all the mishaps and challenges they go

897
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 4: through along the way while getting the movie completed. You're

898
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 4: gonna think it's a mockumentary, like it's Christopher Guests Best

899
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 4: in Show or something. Yes, but this is real and

900
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 4: the people are hilarious, and it takes place during Thanksgiving.

901
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 4: Like Pieces of April. This one is streaming on various

902
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 4: platforms for three ninety nine. You can read it. I

903
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 4: will not regret it. Oh, come on, lost me. The

904
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 4: third movie, Bit of a slow Burn, and this is

905
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 4: as you slowly start to digest your meal, and you're

906
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 4: getting a little bit tired. A little bit tired because

907
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,959
Speaker 4: of the trip to fan you may want to sink

908
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 4: into the couch, possibly even fall asleep. This next movie

909
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:03,240
Speaker 4: is called The Ice Storm by Ang Lee and Uh.

910
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 4: It takes place during Thanksgiving and there's some stuffing going on.

911
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 4: It tells the tale about swingers plus family dynamics and

912
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 4: dysfunction that is maybe relatable on Thanksgiving. It's got Kevin Klein,

913
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 4: Christina Ricci, Toby McGuire, Sigourney Weaver, Joan Allen, a great cast.

914
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 4: It's gotten American beauty type vibe. So it's it's heavy,

915
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 4: heavier than you'll be after dinner. It came out in

916
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 4: ninety seven. You can stream it for the low price

917
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 4: of three dollars and seventy nine cents. It's not even

918
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 4: three ninety nine out. It's on Amazon Prime. My last movie.

919
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 4: This is a late night pay for Prime as it is,

920
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 4: So why do I have to pay to watch movies

921
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 4: for a surface I'm already paying for? This is the

922
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 4: Ice Storm we're talking about. All right, peez, you stop

923
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:54,399
Speaker 4: your firestorm over there. Ridiculous This last movie. You're gonna

924
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 4: be watching it late. We're talking past ten o'clock. NFL

925
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,760
Speaker 4: games are over. You're drunk. Uncle, who's racist? Is left?

926
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 4: This movie is in the vein of so bad It's good.

927
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,720
Speaker 4: It's a slasher comedy involving a turkey that seeks revenge

928
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 4: on humans trying to kill it on Thanksgiving. It's called

929
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 4: thanks Killing. The turkey is evil, all the irony, and

930
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 4: the evil turkey likes to taunt its victims too. It

931
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 4: talks a lot of crap. It's a masterpiece Thanks Killing.

932
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 4: You can find it on to B Believe it or not.

933
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 4: It's free.

934
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 3: That's in. I'm in.

935
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 2: You know what else? I'm in for the six pac

936
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,959
Speaker 2: Coming up next fn A on f That's why. Second

937
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 2: hour Fox Football Saturday with fn A, Kevin Figures, Adam

938
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 2: Alston with you guys, hit us up on x at

939
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 2: KFIG one and at follow Adam A. Coming up later

940
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,720
Speaker 2: this hour, we will speak with Dan Wolkin, covers college

941
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 2: football for Yahoo Sports. Will get into the Lane Kiffin

942
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 2: courtship with LSU and maybe to a lesser extent now

943
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 2: based on all the reporting with Florida talk about college

944
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 2: football playoff rankings and the like, and many other things.

945
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 4: Stay walkin on ILAG football. That'd be fun. We got

946
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 4: our college football forecast as well, will probably preview the

947
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 4: biggest game of the day coming up mire hours from now,

948
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 4: Oregon USC. It's basically a playoff game. Love that. But

949
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,479
Speaker 4: we got more NFL here, including our six pack.

950
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: Time for the NFL six pack Hot Seat Heat Check.

951
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 2: Six categories across the NFL that we cover each and

952
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 2: every single week. We always begin with the first category,

953
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 2: the hot seat heat Check, which is the player or

954
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: coach under the most pressure going into this weekend.

955
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 3: So who is your hot seat heat check for Week twelve?

956
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 4: Adam, The hottest seat for me should be reserved for

957
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:51,919
Speaker 4: I'm sorry Gino Smith with how bad he's been this year. Now,

958
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 4: there's a lot of context of this, but he's gonna

959
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 4: have a lot of people not to write back to

960
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 4: because small countries have written him off at this point.

961
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 4: Raider Nation certainly has. You couldn't fit the amount of

962
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 4: hate mail writing off Geno in a post office like

963
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 4: at the end of the season. They're just gonna have

964
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 4: like a cargo freight shipping container dropped off on his

965
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 4: front lawn with everyone expressing their disgust for his play

966
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 4: unless that gets intercepted to He's the only quarterback with

967
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 4: more interceptions than touchdowns this season. Jamis Winston may eventually

968
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,919
Speaker 4: catch up here, but he's only in game two now

969
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 4: with the Giants. We'll see you know how they got

970
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:36,399
Speaker 4: Geno versus Pats with he steaks in Philly. Yep, this

971
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:40,720
Speaker 4: is Geno versus Pats point after attempts, because you can't

972
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 4: have any if you don't score touchdowns first. But I

973
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 4: liked Geno a lot, believe it or not.

974
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 3: Doesn't sound like it.

975
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 4: I feel for him because of that offensive line terrible,

976
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 4: which has him seen ghosts. Wait, that's not a ghost.

977
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 4: It's just a really old man in Pete Carroll. But

978
00:43:56,040 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 4: he's not in ghost form quite yet. But Pete is

979
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 4: like Obi Won, thinking Geno is luke and trying to

980
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:09,760
Speaker 4: instill confidence in his Jedi Gino, who's been mostly forced

981
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 4: choking himself so far. After the Cowboys game, Pete Carroll

982
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 4: said quote, I think Gino played really well for the

983
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 4: most part. I continue to believe in him. I have

984
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 4: no hesitation in telling you that he couldn't even get

985
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 4: the statement out without hesitating on the eyes and the nose,

986
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 4: and that very sentence when you heard it, well, I

987
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 4: have no hesitation in telling you that the game may

988
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 4: have passed by Pete Carroll if he really believes in

989
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 4: Geno Smith and him being the answer. Still maybe he doesn't.

990
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 4: But the money is always the answer, Kevin. The problem

991
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 4: is the money is the answer, and Gino is getting

992
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 4: paid for a few more years, and money plays just

993
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 4: not well always. Gino's making forty million this year guaranteed.

994
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 4: Next year he's making twenty six and a half million,

995
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 4: eighteen and a half million guaranteed the year after that

996
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty seven, thirty nine and a half million,

997
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 4: non guaranteed. But next year you get to dump them.

998
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 4: He's got eighteen and a half million dollars guaranteed. That's off.

999
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1000
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 2: I mean in today's NFL for a guy who's not producing.

1001
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 2: I mean, that's certainly not nothing, but it certainly could

1002
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 2: be a lot worse. It would not surprise me at

1003
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 2: all if they wanted to eat that. And by the way,

1004
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 2: I would have confidence of Gino Smith too, based on

1005
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 2: who I have backing them up. Can you Pickett ad

1006
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 2: and O'Connell, who just came off of injury reserve yesterday.

1007
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 4: I think it was why didn't they draft Shoulder again?

1008
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 4: I thought Tom Brady was his mentor and he's part owner.

1009
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 3: I guess I don't know.

1010
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 4: But this team, I have to say a lot of

1011
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 4: this is on their O line. Like I'm actually still,

1012
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 4: aside from the jokes, a believer in Gino and Pete Carroll.

1013
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 4: If you just have competent offensive line play in a

1014
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 4: more consistent running game, I still believe in Chip Kelly.

1015
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 4: I wish the Raiders could just load up on the

1016
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 4: old line and run it back and see what you have.

1017
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 4: Is that so wrong? No, that's the right philosophy to have.

1018
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 2: Well, one, they weren't that great upfront to begin with

1019
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 2: to start this season, and then they lost their best

1020
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 2: offensive lineman, Colton Miller about four weeks ago, and Jackson Powers. Johnson,

1021
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 2: who's a really good player, has been in and out

1022
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 2: of the lineup with injuries and he's currently out. So

1023
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 2: they're running a bunch of like third and fourth string

1024
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 2: guys out there. I mean, this is this is might

1025
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 2: as well be an XFL offensive line they're running out

1026
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 2: there right now.

1027
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 4: Well, and it shows is Jesse the body body Vinceur

1028
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,720
Speaker 4: on the call on Sunday when they're taking on Shaduur,

1029
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,479
Speaker 4: Sanders might as well be the seat. Though they lose

1030
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 4: to Shaduur and the Browns, it could get hotter for

1031
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 4: Gino and Pete Carroll.

1032
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can absolutely see that would not surprise me

1033
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 2: in the least bit.

1034
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 3: Who do you got in the hot I'm going to

1035
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 3: stay in the AFC West and go with their brethren.

1036
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 3: I'm going with the.

1037
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs taking on the Colts this weekend with

1038
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 2: that playoff Berth in the ballance. Surprising as it might sound,

1039
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 2: and I think you brought this up earlier in the show, Adam,

1040
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 2: there's a legitimate chance to Kansas City Chiefs don't even

1041
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 2: make the postseason this year. Now, if we go back

1042
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 2: to when we've the very first couple of shows we

1043
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 2: did here on FSR, I think it might have been

1044
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 2: our second or third show, that Friday night opener in

1045
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 2: Brazil between Kansas City and the Chargers, and I say

1046
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 2: Kansas City was not going to win the division, but

1047
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 2: that they would make the playoffs as a wildcard. Well,

1048
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 2: it looks like if we're gonna end up being sort of right,

1049
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 2: So the Chiefs are not going to win the AFC West.

1050
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,720
Speaker 3: Now neither are the Chargers, because that's who our predicted

1051
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 3: was going to win the division. That was my original prediction.

1052
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 4: He took them both down.

1053
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 3: Ken, Yeah, the AFC.

1054
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 2: West is going to go to the different Broncos after

1055
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 2: that big victory against Kansas City last week. The other

1056
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 2: thing that I may be wrong about is the fact

1057
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 2: and Eloy from Compton. I know you're listening because you

1058
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 2: tweet us all the time. You're not gonna want to

1059
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 2: hear this from Compton, but he's a big Chiefs Hank

1060
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 2: Kansas City. I think there's a really good shot they

1061
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 2: end up missing the playoffs entirely. Obviously a tough matchup

1062
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 2: on Sunday against the Indianapolis Colts and Daniel Jones still

1063
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 2: trying to prove themselves as legit.

1064
00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 3: The problem is what a victory over the Chiefs actually.

1065
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,919
Speaker 2: Legitimize the coach because right now, Kansas City this looks

1066
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 2: like an average team. If you want to believe you

1067
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 2: are what your record says you are. Bill Parcell's line,

1068
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 2: they're five and five. They're mediocre. Their mediocre. As a

1069
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 2: one great cornerback would say mediocre, thank you. So, by

1070
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 2: the way, if you look at that five and five record,

1071
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 2: it's not like they have the most impressive resume. They

1072
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 2: beat the Lions soundly on that Sunday night about a

1073
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 2: month or so ago.

1074
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 4: That was a big win.

1075
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 2: But there are other four wins, the Giants, the mid

1076
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 2: September Ravens, who are a mash unit and not playing

1077
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 2: that well.

1078
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 4: Doesn't count.

1079
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 2: The Raiders and Commanders definitely don't go. Might as well

1080
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 2: be the University of Nevada and Virginia Tech. You know,

1081
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 2: difference does that make? What seen those all those teams?

1082
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 2: Is that where James Franklin win, Yeah, exactly, got paid

1083
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 2: to what forty seven a half million dollars? Very good

1084
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 2: for them, though incent of Leaden deal probably smart for

1085
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 2: both sides to sign that anyway.

1086
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 4: Like win one big game to get this money. You know,

1087
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 4: you win, win one game against a top ten team.

1088
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 2: You win a certain mint of games, you get certain

1089
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 2: more money allocated to your coaching staff, and a bunch

1090
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 2: of other different things.

1091
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,919
Speaker 3: It's incentively and I think it's a pretty smart deal. Now.

1092
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Speaker 2: Granted the five losses for Kansas City, by the way,

1093
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 2: getting back on track, with the exception of Jacksonville, they've

1094
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 2: all been against quality opponents, So and that's part of

1095
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 2: the curse of winning your division every year and being

1096
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 2: as good as they've been.

1097
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 4: You know a lot of those play schedule.

1098
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you get a first place schedule, so that ends

1099
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,720
Speaker 2: up working against you. But this is also Patrick Mahomes

1100
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 2: and Andy Reid, the duo. They've been basically the Apex

1101
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 2: predator of the NFL for the past decade. At this

1102
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 2: point in time, what is an eight straight AFC Championship

1103
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 2: games they've been to.

1104
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,760
Speaker 3: So that has not been the case this season.

1105
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 2: You look at their remaining schedule, it is not hard

1106
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 2: to envision potentially three more losses, which replaced them with

1107
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 2: a nine to eight record at best. That might not

1108
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 2: be good enough to get you in the AFC. So

1109
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 2: they played the Colts on Sunday. Like I mentioned, the Cowboys,

1110
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 2: they should beat, but I wouldn't say that that's necessarily

1111
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 2: a given at this point. Houston, who has the exact

1112
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 2: same record as they do, or excuse me, Houston now

1113
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 2: with a record a game better at six and five.

1114
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 3: Now after their victory on Thursday night, they're going to.

1115
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 4: Be more motivated. They got more to play for now.

1116
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 2: That can end up being a de facto playoff elimination game.

1117
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 2: Right there between Houston and Kansas City, you have the Chargers,

1118
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 2: who beat them already earlier this year. Granted they're banged up.

1119
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 4: They beat them in Brazil though, but division.

1120
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Speaker 2: Games are tough. Then you get a de facto bye

1121
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 2: week against the Titans. Fine, then you in the season

1122
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 2: against Denver who just beat you last week. So outside

1123
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 2: of the Titans, I'd say that every last one of

1124
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 2: those games in the Raiders, who I'm not going to

1125
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 2: count again obviously either, But outside of the Titans and Raiders,

1126
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 2: I'd say every last one of the games left on

1127
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 2: this schedule are losable. So also consider that the Chiefs, Texas,

1128
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 2: and Ravens all are five and five and officially in

1129
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 2: the hunt for a playoff spot at this point in time.

1130
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 2: If you look at the bottom of the AFC standings,

1131
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 2: the current seven seed is the Jaguars, who are six

1132
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 2: and four, but most importantly have they head to have

1133
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 2: tiebreaker over Kansas City. So the Chiefs are not dead

1134
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,959
Speaker 2: by any stretch, but their lifeboat is taking on water,

1135
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 2: to say the least, I'll put it that way.

1136
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 4: Maybe a death boat. Well all right, uh, trap.

1137
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,280
Speaker 1: Game tap here trap game Tap.

1138
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 4: My trap game tap is for me. I must resist

1139
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 4: the pool of falling back into the trap of getting

1140
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 4: excited about my Panthers again just because they beat the

1141
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 4: Falcons last week and are currently six and five. I

1142
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 4: cannot let a Monday night football game against the San

1143
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 4: Francisco forty nine Ers remind me of why I became

1144
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 4: a Panthers fan in the first place. As they beat

1145
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 4: the hated forty nine Ers in their first ever matchup

1146
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 4: back in the old NFC West in nineteen ninety five,

1147
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 4: a Niners team that was coming off winning the Super

1148
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,240
Speaker 4: Bowl the year before against the Chargers.

1149
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 2: I can't dare think about simpler times when the Carolina

1150
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 2: Panthers were in the NFC West.

1151
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 3: They saw the sense in.

1152
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 4: The world and they were thriving. Beating the forty nine ers.

1153
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 4: I don't want to think about Wesley Walls, a former Niner,

1154
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:52,399
Speaker 4: scoring touchdowns on Merton Hanks That next year. Panthers second year,

1155
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 4: they went twelve and four nineteen ninety six, made it

1156
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 4: to the NFC Championship Game, lost to Brett Farv.

1157
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 2: I'm trying not to think about Ray Caruth. So that's

1158
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:02,280
Speaker 2: the that's the Panther. I'm trying to distance muscle from God.

1159
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 4: What those Wesley Walls hands, the biggest, softest hands in football.

1160
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 4: What it must have felt like to be a football

1161
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 4: in those strong, secure, and likely warm and fuzzy hands.

1162
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 3: You need a cigarette right now.

1163
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 4: Okay, I can't think about that right now, Kevin, or

1164
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 4: else I'll get too wrapped up and Panthers nostalgia the

1165
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 4: way I'd like to be wrapped up in those big

1166
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:28,720
Speaker 4: hands and Wesley Walls like he caught everything that tight end.

1167
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 4: I can't think about the old NFC West battles between

1168
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 4: the forty nine Ers and the Panthers that I lived for.

1169
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 4: Nor do I need to mention that the Panthers lead

1170
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,760
Speaker 4: the all time series thirteen to ten, although the forty

1171
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 4: nine Ers beat them in the playoffs, but that was

1172
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 4: only because Cam Newton's failures, not the Panthers. Well, think

1173
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 4: about it. If you aren't jumping on a fumble in

1174
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl, what type of effort is Cam gonna

1175
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 4: give for a Measley Divisional round game? You want to

1176
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 4: know what con two picks, five sacks? They lost by

1177
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 4: twenty Thanks Cam. But maybe I should honestly think Cam

1178
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 4: because he ruined my love for the Panthers when he

1179
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 4: didn't jump on that fumble, and ever since then, I've

1180
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:14,240
Speaker 4: been appropriately cautious whenever they show signs of turning a corner,

1181
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 4: Like right now, that's fair. I can't let myself get

1182
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,439
Speaker 4: excited that they're six and five and half a game

1183
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 4: back in the NFC South, not just because they're in

1184
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 4: SF this week on Monday Night Football. But look at

1185
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 4: the rest of the schedule. The Panthers still play the

1186
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 4: Rams at the Saints, who beat them yep, Highbury, the Bucks,

1187
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 4: the Seahawks, and the Bucks again. Now the Bucks are

1188
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 4: right in front of them. They only have like a

1189
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 4: half game lead on the Panthers.

1190
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, but flacing someone like that twice in a three

1191
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 2: weeks span it's hard.

1192
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1193
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 4: And the Bucks' schedule is easier, so they have Atlanta,

1194
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 4: the Cardinals, the Dolphins. The Panthers have the tougher schedule.

1195
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 4: They're behind them in the division. It's possible they might

1196
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 4: have to beat them both times. But all I'm saying is,

1197
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 4: can't get too excited. The Wolf say in pulp fiction

1198
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 4: to Jules and Vincent something about not getting too excited.

1199
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 4: I can't repeat that.

1200
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 3: We say it on the air right now.

1201
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 4: That's how I'm treating this Panthers season. That's all I know.

1202
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 2: Hey, fair enough, you know what if I'm happy for

1203
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 2: you and Panther Nation if you want to call it

1204
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 2: that for even being in the hunt.

1205
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 3: This is late in the season.

1206
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 4: We deserve it. So congratulations to you on that we

1207
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 4: were paying the banner. You got a trap game.

1208
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm going with the Detroit Lions at home against

1209
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 2: the Giants. I'm going with the Lions at home against

1210
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 2: this scrappy New York Giant team. Because after being lauded

1211
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 2: for taking over a play calling for John Morton last week,

1212
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 2: Dan Campbell got humbled a little bit against Philadelphia on

1213
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 2: Sunday night. I will say two. I do like his

1214
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 2: aggressive philosophy to a point. Sometimes you have to take

1215
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 2: the temple of the game into account when you're deciding

1216
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 2: when to go for it on fourth down.

1217
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 4: Though, and I'll turn it to Brandon Staley. You never

1218
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 4: go full Brandon Staley.

1219
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 2: No, It's like you can argue that their management of

1220
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 2: the third quarter is what lost them the game. So

1221
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 2: the score was thirteen to six Philly at the half.

1222
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 2: Lions had three possessions in the third quarter, turns it

1223
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 2: over downs in each and every last one of them.

1224
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 2: You shoot a forty nine yard field goal to go

1225
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 2: forward on fourth and five, and you missed fourth and

1226
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 2: goal of the three yard line. On the next possession,

1227
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 2: a little more understandable, you go for it. You have

1228
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 2: a chance to score a touchdown deep in the red zone.

1229
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,280
Speaker 2: I don't have a big issue with that. One fourth

1230
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,879
Speaker 2: and three at the Eagles forty five yard line, you pump.

1231
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 2: If you pump the ball to Philadelphia, based on how

1232
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 2: the game was going, you're gonna get the ball back,

1233
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 2: probably with a decent field position. Instead, you turn the

1234
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:31,399
Speaker 2: ball over on downs, Philadelphia gainst twenty yards, they get

1235
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 2: a field goal.

1236
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 3: Now they're up sixteen to six.

1237
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 2: So I don't know if it's analytics or gut feel

1238
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 2: or a mix of both.

1239
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 3: When it comes to Dan Campbell. And that's kind of

1240
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 3: my thought, Adams, to be honest.

1241
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 4: With you, because those ant letting them.

1242
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,399
Speaker 2: There's a level of pragmatism that you have to use

1243
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 2: in game situations like this. Though, I realized part of

1244
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 2: the line's identity is to be aggressive and go forward

1245
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 2: on fourth down. They built their game plans around knowing

1246
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 2: that a lot of times they're gonna go forward on

1247
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 2: fourth down. Yeah, philosophically, I get it. You just can't

1248
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 2: be dogmatic these sorts of things. You have to sometimes

1249
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 2: the potential risk is just as crippling as the reward

1250
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 2: could be fruitful. So use analytics, use your gut, be aggressive,

1251
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 2: call it whatever you want. Just understand the tenor and

1252
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 2: the temple of the game that's being played out on

1253
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 2: the field in front of you, and just realize that

1254
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,919
Speaker 2: all fourth and fives from midfield are not created.

1255
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 3: Equal, you know what I mean?

1256
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:20,879
Speaker 4: Ye, fair enough.

1257
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 2: So for this weekend, they're going to host the Giants, who,

1258
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 2: despite their two to nine record, have been one of

1259
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 2: the scrappiest teams in the NFL. We did learn yesterday

1260
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 2: that Jackson Dart did not clear concussion protocol, So Jameis

1261
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:32,760
Speaker 2: Winston's going to be back in there yet again.

1262
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 4: I love it the Giants.

1263
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 3: We said last week the Giants were going to be

1264
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 3: competitive against Green Bay.

1265
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 4: Did we lie? And no, did we lie?

1266
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 2: And if anything, you know, Jameis Winston gets you know,

1267
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 2: a lot of ridicule for throwing that picket towards the

1268
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 2: end of the game.

1269
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 4: I mean, that was built in. That was baked in.

1270
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 2: He was anticipating the receiver curling off his route and

1271
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,479
Speaker 2: he didn't do that, So that was an anticipation throw.

1272
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:55,800
Speaker 2: The receiver, at least from what I understand, ran the

1273
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 2: wrong route and that's why he was picked off.

1274
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 4: Look, I anticipate at least three more picks from Jamis

1275
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:01,399
Speaker 4: this week.

1276
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 3: You might be right, but I still love them now.

1277
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 2: The Sam Laporta is out for the season, as Steve

1278
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:07,720
Speaker 2: the Sacred told us at the top of the hour updates.

1279
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 2: So that's a huge loss for Detroit. One of their

1280
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,879
Speaker 2: biggest weapons offensively didn't play last week, and I think

1281
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 2: that was a huge reason as to why they struggled

1282
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 2: against Philadelphia. So I do think the Lions win this

1283
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 2: one would not surprise me in the least bit if

1284
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 2: New York found a way to pull off the upset, though.

1285
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 4: Interesting Okay, I like that. Coming up in our NFL

1286
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Speaker 4: six pack, what do we Got Beer Goggles game? Our

1287
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 4: O Troy Epic Fail Potential game. We still have four

1288
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 4: more categories, but coming up next from Yahoo Sports, it

1289
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 4: is college football insider and analyst Dan Walkin. That's next

1290
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 4: here on FNA on FSR.

1291
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,560
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Speaker 2: A, FNA COTTONA.

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Speaker 2: It's Kevin Figures, Adam Alsten back with you guys here

1299
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 2: on Fox Football Saturday, FNA on FSR.

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Speaker 2: Adam A coming up, and about twenty minutes or so

1303
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 2: we will dive back into the NFL six pack.

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00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:21,959
Speaker 3: But right now we'll get into.

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Speaker 2: Some college football controversy surrounding the future of Lane Kiffin.

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00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 3: Will he remain at Ole Miss?

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Speaker 2: Will he go to LSU or Florida, although it looks

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Speaker 2: more likely that if you were to leave, it'd be

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Speaker 2: with LSU. Talk a little college football playoff and many

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Speaker 2: other things. With our next guest, let's get to.

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Speaker 1: It, Alan Dragan did thank you, Donny.

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Speaker 4: Well, we had this CFB expert on at the start

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Speaker 4: of the season and he warned us about Clemson and

1314
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 4: other frauds who wouldn't be making the college football playoffs.

1315
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Speaker 4: So right now we have this man at the top

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Speaker 4: of our College Football Analyst rankings. He's the one seed

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Speaker 4: with a BUYE for the playoffs, just ahead of Joel Klatt.

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Speaker 4: Is Dan Walkin from a Yahoo Sports back on f

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Speaker 4: and a on FSR. Follow him at Dan Wilkin w

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Speaker 4: l K e N. Dan. Thanks for doing this here

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Speaker 4: on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Hey, what's up.

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Speaker 4: Let's start with this. What's your biggest gripe and argument

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00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 4: you would like to present to the College Football Committee

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00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 4: if you could plead your case for said gripe. What's

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00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 4: your biggest issues so far with their rankings?

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00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 6: Well, I think that this committee seems to be a

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00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 6: lot more focused on losses than wins, and I think

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Speaker 6: that's a departure from what we've seen in the past.

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Speaker 5: And I'm only going based off of.

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Speaker 6: What Hunter Yurchek, the Arkansas athletic director who's now the

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Speaker 6: head of the selection committee, what he is saying. And

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Speaker 6: you know, sometimes these guys are in a difficult spot

1334
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 6: trying to explain decisions that don't make a lot of sense.

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Speaker 6: I frankly hate the weekly rankings, but they do give

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Speaker 6: us good fodder and good content. And I think the

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Speaker 6: Miami Notre Dame thing, I'm not saying I disagree with it,

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Speaker 6: or that I think Miami's better than Notre Dame.

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Speaker 5: I don't.

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01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 6: I think that, like the committee, Notre Dame is at

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01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 6: this moment a better team, even though we all saw

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01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 6: what happened when they played each other in Week one.

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Speaker 6: But I just think that's a really sticky problem for

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01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:27,439
Speaker 6: the committee from a common sense perspective, when they both

1345
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 6: have two losses and they played each other head to

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01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 6: head in Miami one, and yet Notre Dame is several

1347
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 6: spots ahead of Miami and the rankings, and I just

1348
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 6: think that's going to be really tough to explain as

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01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 6: things go forward.

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Speaker 2: Dan, what's your take when some people say that we

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Speaker 2: should just do away with this ranking model and go

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01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 2: to more of an NFL model and automatic bit. This

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01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 2: is something that I know that the Big Ten has

1354
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 2: talked about. The SEC has kind of fought back on

1355
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 2: that as far as how the slotting goes. But generally speaking,

1356
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 2: don't worry about rankings. You have this certain record within

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Speaker 2: your conference, You're going to be slotted in and guarantee

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Speaker 2: the playoff spot for the front the top four or

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01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 2: five teams in this conference, top four or five in

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Speaker 2: that conference, et cetera. How do you feel about the

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Speaker 2: potential of just doing away with the rankings to begin

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Speaker 2: with and just going on an automatic bid situation.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I don't think it really works in

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01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 6: college football because in the NFL, you know, everyone is

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01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 6: playing on the same plane of competition.

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Speaker 5: College sports doesn't really work that way.

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Speaker 6: The SEC and the Big Ten and the Big twelve,

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01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 6: they're all separate entities and they all have their own

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01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 6: thing going on, and there's such limited interplay between the

1370
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 6: conferences that you know, you can't really just say, well.

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Speaker 5: Everybody deserves four.

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Speaker 6: That's not tenable because the reality is some leagues are

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01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 6: better than others and some and schedules are vastly different.

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01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 6: Even within the conferences, the schedules are vastly different. I mean,

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01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 6: look at the schedule Alabama's played this year versus the

1376
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 6: schedule Texas A and M has played this year, two

1377
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 6: totally different animals.

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Speaker 5: So I just don't think that works.

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Speaker 6: And I don't think there's any interest from an SEC

1380
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 6: standpoint in doing that, because the SEC recognizes that they

1381
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 6: will benefit far more from a system where strength of

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01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 6: schedule and a committee is at least, you know, is

1383
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 6: interpreting the results of the games they see. So I

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Speaker 6: just I just don't see an automatic bid situation ever

1385
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 6: really happening.

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Speaker 2: Dan, Welcome Yahoo Sports, joining us here FNA on FSR,

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Speaker 2: Fox Football Saturday. Dan, your most recent column, you wrote

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Speaker 2: about Lane Kiffen and the chance if he potentially leaves

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01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 2: Ole Miss for another school, would elements be left out

1390
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 2: of the college football playoff? You said that you don't

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01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 2: think that's likely to happen. Just in general, how do

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Speaker 2: you see this Kiffin situation playing out? Because there's reports

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Speaker 2: of his family traveling to Baton Rouge to meet with

1394
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 2: you know, LSU, but he was very nebulous or actually

1395
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 2: didn't say anything as far as addressing that in recent

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Speaker 2: interviews that he's done. Do you think that it's most

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01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 2: likely that he remains at Ole Miss or most likely

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01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 2: that he ends up bolting based on what you know?

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Speaker 6: Well, let's put it this way. This has been a

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01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 6: thing for well over a week. We've seen all kinds

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01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 6: of reports and you know about his family going to

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01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 6: visit certain places. This has all been playing out very publicly,

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01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 6: and he hasn't shut it down. He hasn't said, hey,

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01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 6: I'm staying at all Miss. You would think if that

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01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 6: was his desire, that he would have already made that.

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01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 5: Plane. He would have made it clear.

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Speaker 6: I think much more likely is he wants to coach

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01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 6: at Ole Miss through the playoff and then wants to

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01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 6: have the opportunity to look around and go somewhere else.

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Speaker 6: But the way the timing is going to work on

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01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 6: all this stuff, I just.

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Speaker 5: Don't think that's possible.

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01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 6: And I think we're closing in very quickly on a

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01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 6: decision is going to have to be.

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Speaker 4: What do you think the most likely destination is then

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01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 4: for Lane Kiffin?

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Speaker 6: Dan, Yeah, I mean I feel fairly comfortable right now

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01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 6: saying if he leaves, it's going to be to LSU.

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Speaker 5: But then again, we're dealing with Blane Kiffin. Things can

1420
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 5: turn on a dime.

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Speaker 6: He's the most unpredictable person in college sports.

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Speaker 2: There's also a certain level of it, Dan, when it

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01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 2: comes to Lane. You know, the expectation levels at Ole Miss,

1424
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 2: no disrespect to them, are going to be different even

1425
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 2: at Florida, who I've heard some people say that the

1426
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 2: expectations at Florida are actually way over where there should be,

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01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 2: and that they see themselves as LSU or Alabama and

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Speaker 2: they're not that I can't necessarily speak to that. You've

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01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 2: covered the sport for a long time, you can more

1430
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 2: than I. But would it not be more advantageous just

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01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 2: from a career I guess job security standpoint for Lane

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01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 2: to potentially stay at ole Miss where you can win

1433
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 2: ten eleven games and make the playoff every year and

1434
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 2: be fairly safe. Whereas you go to LSU, make the

1435
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 2: playoff one year and miss it the next year, and

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden you're back on the hot seat again.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I get that, But look, Lane is

1438
01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 6: a guy who you're hiring him win a national championship.

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01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 5: He's going somewhere to win a national championship.

1440
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 6: Like I think at this point in his career, I

1441
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 6: don't know that there's like much else beyond that. So

1442
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:16,439
Speaker 6: in some ways, his next move, whether it's Ole Miss

1443
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 6: or anywhere else that's the past fail line is winning

1444
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 6: a national championship. He's also going to be making like

1445
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 6: thirteen fourteen million dollars a year.

1446
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Speaker 5: So I just don't think.

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Speaker 6: I don't think the pressure aspect is relevant. You're you're

1448
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 6: going to be under pressure regardless, Dan, who.

1449
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 4: Do you think has a better chance of leaving or

1450
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 4: going back on their word between Sark or Belichick.

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01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 6: Well, I don't have a lot of insight into the

1452
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 6: Belichick thing. I don't think anybody really does that one.

1453
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 6: I'm just going to put a pin in and say,

1454
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 6: let's see what this looks.

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01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 5: Like, you know, in a few weeks.

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Speaker 6: Like I don't think Bill Belichick is going to the

1457
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 6: NFL because I don't think anyone in the NFL wants

1458
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 6: Bill Belichick. Bill Belichick is either going to be the

1459
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,920
Speaker 6: North Carolina coach next year or he's going to be,

1460
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 6: you know, in Nantucket with Jordan Hudson. Okay, Sark, different deal.

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01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 6: I think his people did probably take the temperature of

1462
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 6: NFL and whatever, and there wasn't a lot out there

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Speaker 6: for him, and I think at that point there's there's

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Speaker 6: clarity for him.

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Speaker 5: Hey I'm going to be at Texas next year.

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Speaker 6: But you know, again, this is shilly season. People throw

1467
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 6: out a lot of different things. Agents talk and back

1468
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 6: channel and there's a lot of hypotheticals what if this,

1469
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 6: what if that? And sometimes those what ifs as you make,

1470
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 6: you know, two or three more phone calls down the

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01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 6: line turn into oh, well, somebody you know would really

1472
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 6: like to leave or would really be interested in this

1473
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 6: job or that job. And maybe it's not totally exactly accurate.

1474
01:06:56,720 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 6: Go out of smoking mirrors. So I believe Sark is

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01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 6: going to be a Texas next year. I believe Kenny

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01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:04,439
Speaker 6: Dillingham is going to be at Arizona State next year.

1477
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Speaker 5: When you come out.

1478
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 6: That strongly, especially in this day and age and the

1479
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 6: way the internet works, I think you'd be making a

1480
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 6: big mistake to.

1481
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Speaker 5: Be that strong and then change your mind.

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Speaker 2: Dan wolkan Yahoo Sports, joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Just going back to the committee and talking about the

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Speaker 2: twelve team playoff. I feel like there's been a lot

1485
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 2: of steam or talk recently about the group of five

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01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 2: or group of six when you have the expandit, the

1487
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Speaker 2: NEWPAC twelve coming in next year, whether or not they

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Speaker 2: actually deserve a bit regardless of how good of a

1489
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 2: season a TWU Lane or a North Texas or somebody

1490
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Speaker 2: like that is having. What are your thoughts on the

1491
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 2: group of five slash group of six having for all

1492
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 2: intentsive purposes of a facto automatic bid into the college

1493
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 2: football Playoff?

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Speaker 5: It's fine.

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01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 6: I don't send a lot of controversy about that. Look,

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Speaker 6: if you want to be a national sport and if

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Speaker 6: you want to have people invested, fans invested from from

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01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 6: coast to coasts across one hundred and thirty programs that

1499
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Speaker 6: are part of the FBS, then they need representation and

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Speaker 6: they need a spot in that playoff, point blank period.

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Speaker 6: I don't think it's real complicated if they.

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01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 5: If you don't have a.

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01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 6: Spot for them, then you might as well just get

1504
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 6: on with forming this super league thing and just cutting

1505
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:26,559
Speaker 6: out all the fat cutting you know, cutout Purdue, cut

1506
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 6: out Maryland. I mean, does anybody need those teams in

1507
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 6: college football? Not really right if that's your attitude. So

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01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 6: I don't sense that that's going anywhere, and I don't

1509
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 6: think there's a huge.

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Speaker 5: Push for it.

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Speaker 4: Dan, what'd you think about Alabama dropping as far as

1512
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 4: they did, even behind Notre Dame? I probably have them

1513
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 4: in front of Notre Dame? Like, would you make of

1514
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:48,480
Speaker 4: that steep decline after the lost to Oklahoma?

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Speaker 6: It was interesting, especially because if you if you look

1516
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 6: at the way the game was played, like Alabama was

1517
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:00,680
Speaker 6: the better team up and down on the field, but

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Speaker 6: they committed a bunch of turnovers and you know, they

1519
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 6: made a lot of mistakes. Again, Alabama's not a great team.

1520
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 5: They're a good.

1521
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 6: Team, They're kind of just like a lot of others

1522
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:14,640
Speaker 6: in that top you know, ten to twelve that you

1523
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 6: could shake them up and you know, in a cocktail

1524
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 6: glass and pick one out and you'd have different results

1525
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:27,639
Speaker 6: every time. Like, I truly believe that they definitely dropped

1526
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:30,680
Speaker 6: more than I thought. And maybe it's the committee sort

1527
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 6: of reassessing and reevaluating the second loss in light of

1528
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 6: the Florida.

1529
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 5: State lost at the beginning of the season.

1530
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 6: I don't really know, but it's certainly it's interesting from

1531
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 6: the standpoint of like Alabama better win that game next

1532
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 6: week against sovereign, and they better look good doing it.

1533
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 2: I don't know what you can do to really change

1534
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 2: this dynamic, Dan, when you talk about conference championship games,

1535
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 2: because I'm looking at Ohio State and I'm looking at Indiana,

1536
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 2: and the SEC still needs to be fleshed out to

1537
01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 2: a certain degree to as far as who's going to Atlanta,

1538
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 2: but I mean State Indiana, regardless of who wins that game,

1539
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 2: both teams going to the playoffs, both teams likely getting

1540
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 2: goodbye in the first round. So outside of and I

1541
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 2: know and Rick Nwasl says this all the time. The

1542
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 2: answer is money. Now, what's the question? But it seriously

1543
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 2: is what is really the point of having these conference

1544
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 2: championship games if we know, generally speaking, both teams are

1545
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:18,759
Speaker 2: going to get in the time.

1546
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, look, there's definitely a shift in the attitude about

1547
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 6: conference championship games across the sport of college football. They're

1548
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 6: definitely more probably risk than reward.

1549
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:32,639
Speaker 5: At this point.

1550
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:35,480
Speaker 6: And you can even go back to last year Georgia

1551
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 6: loses Carson Beck in the SEC championship game and that

1552
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:42,800
Speaker 6: effectively costs them a chance to win the national championship. So,

1553
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 6: you know, the SEC is the only one that has

1554
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 6: historic significance with fans. The others are fine, Like, I

1555
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:58,639
Speaker 6: think people enjoy them, but there's not It's not like.

1556
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 5: It's not a huge.

1557
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:05,799
Speaker 6: Part of the tradition of those conferences in the SEC.

1558
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 5: It is.

1559
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 6: It's also a massive, massive money maker in the SEC,

1560
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 6: So that one's tricky. I think getting rid of it

1561
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 6: is tricky, But the focus of the sport increasingly just

1562
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 6: goes toward the playoff itself and being ready for the

1563
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 6: playoff and peaking for the playoff.

1564
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 5: To me, I think the importance of the championship.

1565
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 6: Games will continue to decrease, and I think more and

1566
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 6: more people will kind of continue to just be like,

1567
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:34,719
Speaker 6: what are we doing here?

1568
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 4: Last one for me, Dan, we talked about it with

1569
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 4: you at the beginning of the season, but the USC

1570
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 4: expectations were about as low as we've ever seen them

1571
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 4: entering a season. How much of they exceeded them? For you?

1572
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 4: And what do you expect against Oregon later today?

1573
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, really interesting game and USC's played well. I think

1574
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:58,680
Speaker 6: you have to give them some credit for changing their

1575
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 6: identity a little bit and I think growing into the.

1576
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 5: Big pen style of play.

1577
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:10,640
Speaker 6: Now they're playing another you know, former.

1578
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:11,559
Speaker 5: PAC twelve team, and.

1579
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 6: This is I don't want to say it's a one

1580
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 6: hundred percent of the elimination game, but it kind of is.

1581
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:22,599
Speaker 5: Oregon. I'm not sure they have.

1582
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 6: Enough heft on their resume to survive a second loss.

1583
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 6: You know, if you really dig into their their schedule,

1584
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 6: it's it's not been that impressive that they're nine and one,

1585
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:36,679
Speaker 6: but they're kind of a weak nine and one even

1586
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:40,719
Speaker 6: you know, some of their wins have been pretty pretty

1587
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 6: pretty much a struggle. So both teams have to win

1588
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 6: this game. I think and I think that's that's a

1589
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 6: fascinating personnel matchup, fascinating coaching matchup, and the stakes I

1590
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:54,679
Speaker 6: don't think it could be any higher.

1591
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:58,559
Speaker 2: He has a great Dan Wilkin writes for Yahoo's Sports,

1592
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 2: covering a college football among other things. Dan, this has

1593
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 2: been great. Thanks so much for us spending so much

1594
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 2: of your time with us. We appreciate it, and we'll

1595
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 2: talk to you next time.

1596
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 5: Thank you.

1597
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 4: There it goes, Dan Walkin. I want to remind you guys,

1598
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 4: with the iHeartRadio app, you can stream us wherever you

1599
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 4: happen to be. Catch us in all of our Fox

1600
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 4: Sports Radio shows live twenty four to seven in the

1601
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 4: new and improved iHeartRadio app. Just searched Fox Sports Radio

1602
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 4: in the app to stream us live all day every day,

1603
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 4: and be sure to select Fox Sports Radio as one

1604
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:29,679
Speaker 4: of your presets in the iHeart app so it always

1605
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 4: pops up at the top of your screen.

1606
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 2: We'll get back into the Lane Kiffin conversation a little

1607
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 2: bit next hour, you know, talking to Dan Wolkan his

1608
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 2: colleague Ross delingdret Yahoo Sports having the big report on

1609
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,759
Speaker 2: Friday night about a ninety plus million dollar a contract

1610
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 2: offer that LSU was ready to present the Lane Kiff

1611
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 2: and he apparently met with them. Sorry, still a lot

1612
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 2: of people will believe that Lane Kiffin still may stay

1613
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 2: in Ole miss that he likes the ra atmosphere out there.

1614
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 4: He kind of think, you know what, we'll get into

1615
01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 4: it latter. Yeah, we'll do it later.

1616
01:13:58,520 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 3: Yes, coming up next.

1617
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 4: I got thought we gotta get back to the NFL

1618
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 4: six pack. Our beer goggles category is next. This is FNA.

1619
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:10,840
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports.

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01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:11,600
Speaker 5: Radio D.

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01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, welcome back in f and A.

1622
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:22,640
Speaker 2: Have some technical difficulties over there, are we? I am

1623
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 2: about to.

1624
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:25,800
Speaker 4: You know how you would slam your hand on the

1625
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 4: VCR and somehow it would start working again and the

1626
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 4: tracking would work itself out. That's how I'm feeling about

1627
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:33,800
Speaker 4: the instant replay machine right now.

1628
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 2: Or like my old method with the old you know

1629
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 2: any s games, you know, you take it and you

1630
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:40,280
Speaker 2: blow on it, and if that didn't work, you would

1631
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 2: take it and fling it across the room and step

1632
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:43,559
Speaker 2: on with a few times and see if that would

1633
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:45,599
Speaker 2: fix it. Is that kind of where you are right

1634
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:47,640
Speaker 2: now with the insta replay machine. Throw it to the

1635
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 2: dog like a frisbee. Basically, yes, I'm getting there. Frustration

1636
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 2: is setting in. It's it's old, scuzzy hard drives. I

1637
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 2: think how you pronounce it. But you know what, we

1638
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:00,560
Speaker 2: got a new one coming and this is f and

1639
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:03,680
Speaker 2: A on fs R and.

1640
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:06,639
Speaker 1: We gotta get to our beer goggles game.

1641
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 4: NFL six pack continues, Kevin, you got a beer goggles game?

1642
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 2: Ya, Yes, the beer goggles game, the ugly matchup that

1643
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 2: might actually turn out to be entertaining. And I'm going

1644
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 2: to one that Adams says, forget the DVR, forget the NFL. Plus,

1645
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 2: I'm watching this crap live, I mean live. I need

1646
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:24,720
Speaker 2: more Raiders Browns in my life. Who doesn't Now, I

1647
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 2: know what you're saying. How in the hell could this

1648
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 2: game have a single ounce of redeeming value to the

1649
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 2: casual fan outside of Cleveland and Las Vegas casuals? The

1650
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:36,639
Speaker 2: obvious answer is Shajur Sanders. Sure we all acknowledge that

1651
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 2: that's tired. What's wired?

1652
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:39,720
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1653
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:41,599
Speaker 2: I would say a lot of the magic of Chadors

1654
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 2: to a certain degree has worn off since his admittedly

1655
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:47,479
Speaker 2: terrible performance against Baltimore last week. He owned it, Yeah,

1656
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 2: he did own it, which I give him all the credit.

1657
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 2: In the world for you could have blamed everybody else

1658
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 2: but himself, So I'll give him credit for that. I'm

1659
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:55,120
Speaker 2: not saying that you should watch this game because it

1660
01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:57,639
Speaker 2: will resemble that opening week game between Baltimore and the Bills,

1661
01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 2: which was one of the more entertaining games in recent memory.

1662
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 3: Hell le even throw Bill's Bucks in there. That was

1663
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 3: a great game last week.

1664
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:03,920
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, high scoring.

1665
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 2: But I think this game will resemble the opposite, and

1666
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 2: that in and of itself has appealed to it.

1667
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 3: So hear me out at him.

1668
01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 2: So it's like when people are rubber necking as they

1669
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 2: drive past a car wreck on the side of a road.

1670
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 2: You're just kind of in a state of shock and

1671
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:18,920
Speaker 2: all at the damage that's been done and hopefully it's

1672
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 2: just to the cars and not to any of the

1673
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 2: occupants devastation. And if we're all honest with ourselves in

1674
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:26,680
Speaker 2: the back of our subconscious minds, and some of us

1675
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:29,800
Speaker 2: might even say it explicitly, you're rolling by and you say, oh, damn,

1676
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:30,320
Speaker 2: that's terrible.

1677
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 3: I hope they're okay, what's happened to me?

1678
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 2: That that wouldn't mean though, that you continue to drive

1679
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 2: on your commute, go about your day and forget that

1680
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 2: you ever saw.

1681
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 4: It, go back to texting while driving. No, don't do

1682
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 4: that ever.

1683
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 2: That is exactly how you view this game if you're

1684
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 2: not a fan of either of these franchises. Let's be honest,

1685
01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:50,640
Speaker 2: we all know most of 'all are going to be

1686
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 2: tuned in to what Eagles Cowboys in the four pm

1687
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 2: Eastern one pm Pacific window anyway, because that's the only

1688
01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:58,479
Speaker 2: game really of note in that window.

1689
01:16:58,520 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 3: To be honest with you.

1690
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:02,080
Speaker 2: It's a pretty wake a week late slate this weekend,

1691
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 2: if I'm to be honest with you, Sorry, Bree for

1692
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:05,360
Speaker 2: your Saints and Falcons matchup.

1693
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 4: Same in college football.

1694
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 3: To a certain great barrier. Verry like, we got blame.

1695
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 4: Calm before the storm because we've got Thanksgiving stuff going on.

1696
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:13,520
Speaker 3: I blame the SEC personally.

1697
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:14,679
Speaker 4: Patty Cake Week.

1698
01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:17,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, every single year, without fail, the week of

1699
01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:20,720
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving is patty Cake Week, or before Thanksgiving always is

1700
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 2: before Rivalry week for the SEC is where they played

1701
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:24,519
Speaker 2: the week Sisters of the Poor.

1702
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 4: That's what you should be punishing committee.

1703
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 3: Absolutely, yeah, but they won't do it.

1704
01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 2: So here's what I'll say though, for if you're tuning

1705
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 2: into Eagles Cowboys which I know you will be when

1706
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 2: there's a commercial break and you don't want to sit

1707
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 2: through another break that's pushing you to drink all for

1708
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:39,679
Speaker 2: beer or sign up for a prop betsite.

1709
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 3: That's praying on you.

1710
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:42,639
Speaker 2: Folks who say I got a really good feeling about

1711
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 2: the over under on brock party touchdown passes on Monday.

1712
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:46,679
Speaker 4: Night, Well, hey, they put the one eight hundred numbers

1713
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:47,639
Speaker 4: below to cover their asses.

1714
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:50,280
Speaker 2: Sure, I'm sure, yeah right, I'm sure that works. Wonders,

1715
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 2: I advise you to flip over to Raiders Browns doing

1716
01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 2: those commercial breaks and watch the spectacle of bad football

1717
01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 2: that it is and tell yourself, at least that's not

1718
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 2: my thing, even if you are a Saints fan like Brie.

1719
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:05,560
Speaker 2: There's a light at the end of the tunnel, and no,

1720
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 2: this is not that Mike D'Antoni. There's a train coming

1721
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 2: down the other side of it. Granted, you have Tyler

1722
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 2: shugg In there, not the most spectacular player, but you

1723
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 2: also know that he's.

1724
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 4: Not really your future.

1725
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 3: They at least know that they're in the midst of

1726
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 3: a rebuild at this point in time.

1727
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, they'll have a high draft pick and a stack

1728
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 4: draft coming up.

1729
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 2: They knew coming into the season the expectations were going

1730
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 2: to be extremely low. You talked about Pete Carroll and

1731
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:30,799
Speaker 2: Gino Smith and Chip kirk Kelly earlier in the show.

1732
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:31,720
Speaker 3: Adam, and I don't.

1733
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:33,559
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people, if you were being realistic,

1734
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 2: most people didn't think they would make the postseason. No,

1735
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 2: but I think most people thought by the time you

1736
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:40,719
Speaker 2: got to Thanksgiving they probably still be in the hunt somewhere.

1737
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 4: They thought they might win seven or eight games this season.

1738
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:46,719
Speaker 2: Right And if so, look, if you can win seven,

1739
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 2: two or three bounces go a different direction, you can

1740
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 2: look your way into nine or ten.

1741
01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:50,639
Speaker 1: Yea.

1742
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 2: You know, they're obviously far, far, far from that. So

1743
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 2: our expectations were low. But holy yeah, yeah, So all

1744
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:01,080
Speaker 2: that has gone through hell to say the least. Now

1745
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 2: there's rumors, as you mentioned earlier, that the game may

1746
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 2: have passed Pete Bye and the Milk's combat with Chip

1747
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:08,640
Speaker 2: Kelly and his offense, and Gino's regrets to the New

1748
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:10,719
Speaker 2: York Jets version that was getting knocked out by Special

1749
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 2: Teams teammates in the locker room. So even if the

1750
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:15,760
Speaker 2: Browns had a modicum of confidence coming in with a

1751
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 2: good defense and Joe flaccol as a competent veteran to

1752
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:18,559
Speaker 2: start the year.

1753
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 3: We've seen what's happened to them too.

1754
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 2: So these are two downtrodden franchises who look like crap,

1755
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 2: are playing like crap, and are going absolutely nowhere. Smell

1756
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 2: like yeah, basically yeah, smells like the Oakland Alo Media

1757
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 2: Coliseum there. So as you sit there and catch bits

1758
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 2: and pieces up the debacle that'll be the Raiders and

1759
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 2: Browns on Sunday afternoon, be fortunate that you don't have

1760
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:42,559
Speaker 2: to live and die with these two downtrodden franchises, because

1761
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 2: if you did, to quote my friend Victor Brigg Jacobs,

1762
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 2: you would have died a thousand deaths by this point.

1763
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 3: That is my beer goggles.

1764
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 4: Game, not death by a thousand paper cuts by a

1765
01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:54,759
Speaker 4: thousand Raiders games.

1766
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:58,160
Speaker 3: Watch death by a thousand Raiders and Browns games watched.

1767
01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:02,519
Speaker 4: I mean, look, what can I say? The Panthers are

1768
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 4: six and five, but we still lost to the Saints,

1769
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:06,439
Speaker 4: a team we were just making fun of.

1770
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, that's something the Raiders can say.

1771
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:09,679
Speaker 2: At the very least they did not lose to the Saints.

1772
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:12,200
Speaker 4: Why they beat them? No, I haven't played they play

1773
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 4: them thankfully that was a scheduling conflict. Yeah, it's smart

1774
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 4: on their part. Yeah it is a car wreck. It

1775
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 4: is a train wreck.

1776
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 2: Well just think at them, like if Shador Sanders weren't

1777
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:31,400
Speaker 2: starting in this game, literally zero redeeming quality to this matchup, and.

1778
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:35,000
Speaker 4: It's a game that's just for gambling and just for

1779
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 4: degenerate gamblers.

1780
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:39,840
Speaker 2: At that point, and to that point, I'm not gonna

1781
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:41,559
Speaker 2: say whether or not this game is in my two

1782
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:42,439
Speaker 2: one or two wall or not.

1783
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 3: It may or may not be.

1784
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 4: I like the t's there. Do you want to guess

1785
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:52,000
Speaker 4: what quarterback Kevin Stefanski is at since he's been the

1786
01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:54,800
Speaker 4: head coach of the Browns. I'm not going back all

1787
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 4: the way to ninety nine where they've had forty two

1788
01:20:57,360 --> 01:21:01,519
Speaker 4: different quarterbacks, but what is should do? Were for Kevin

1789
01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 4: Stefanski with all the quarterbacks they've had, what number is

1790
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:07,719
Speaker 4: he seven? You want to go higher?

1791
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 1: Quickly?

1792
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 4: You want to go higher?

1793
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 2: No, Kevin eleven, thirteen, twenty five, thirteen seventy five, thirteen thirty.

1794
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 3: It's been there for like what eight years or something.

1795
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:22,120
Speaker 4: Lucky they were thirteen.

1796
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:25,040
Speaker 3: That is absolutely insane. That's your door.

1797
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:28,559
Speaker 2: God coming up next, more of the NFL six pack

1798
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio. That's right, final hour of

1799
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:36,760
Speaker 2: fn A on FSR Here on Fox Football Saturday. Kevin

1800
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:38,760
Speaker 2: figures at kfig one is where you can find me

1801
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:41,280
Speaker 2: on X at Follow Adam A is where you could

1802
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 2: find Adam on X. Coming up this hour, we would

1803
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 2: dive deep into the college football slate, not the deepest

1804
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 2: slate of games, but we'll talk about the Lane Kiffin

1805
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:53,760
Speaker 2: controversy sc Oregon, a huge matchup this weekend, get into

1806
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:55,639
Speaker 2: a couple of others as well. We also have our

1807
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 2: official picks at the end of the show for two

1808
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:01,639
Speaker 2: to one too off. By the way, For the best

1809
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 2: pregame show every weekend, be sure to tune into Fox

1810
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:07,120
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1811
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:09,679
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1812
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:12,280
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1813
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 2: up until kickoff. For all of the best plays up

1814
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:17,840
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1815
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:20,559
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1816
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:23,599
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1817
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:25,880
Speaker 4: All right, Kevin, I still have a beer goggles game

1818
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:29,680
Speaker 4: to get to here in our NFL six pack, when

1819
01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 4: I put my beer goggles on, I see two teams

1820
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 4: at the bottom of the gutter in the NFC South

1821
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 4: that have a game that is sadder than those that

1822
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:44,760
Speaker 4: would watch bum fights because look at you, they were

1823
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:46,800
Speaker 4: also drinking malt liquor and couldn't turn away.

1824
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:49,800
Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers finally have themselves a decent season, and you

1825
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 2: want to punch the rest of the division while they're down.

1826
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:56,360
Speaker 4: I will punch down gladly. That's what this game is

1827
01:22:56,400 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 4: gonna be. Like Falcons at New Orleans Aints. It's bum fights.

1828
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 4: I believe that was actually the thing I didn't watch.

1829
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:09,639
Speaker 4: Didn't I would never uh huh. But there's some sickos

1830
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:13,160
Speaker 4: out there and some alcoholics that might find those videos entertaining.

1831
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:16,719
Speaker 4: So with my beer goggles on, I see the same

1832
01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 4: thing here with Breeze Saints hosting the Falcons. I could

1833
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:23,400
Speaker 4: see these two teams fighting hard though, since the Saints

1834
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 4: last game was a win over the Panthers and they

1835
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:28,000
Speaker 4: feel good about themselves, and while the Falcons feel awful

1836
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 4: since they've lost five in a row and the young

1837
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 4: QB that they wanted to get more data on with Pennix. Well,

1838
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:37,280
Speaker 4: he's out the rest of the season.

1839
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:38,400
Speaker 3: Take that for data.

1840
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, they also don't have a first round pick.

1841
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:43,479
Speaker 2: But he tears acl for like the third time in

1842
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 2: five years or something.

1843
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:45,160
Speaker 4: Partial tear.

1844
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:49,479
Speaker 2: I mean, okay, guy's barely walking as it is. I mean,

1845
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 2: my god.

1846
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:56,679
Speaker 4: Remember, they don't have a first round pick because they

1847
01:23:56,760 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 4: traded with the Rams to get defender James Years, who's

1848
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:04,160
Speaker 4: also been hurt, but they thought he would put them

1849
01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 4: in a position the Falcons to make the playoffs this year.

1850
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 4: But since they don't have that first round pick, that

1851
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 4: also means they might as well try to win right

1852
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 4: now and be competitive in this game against the Saints.

1853
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:17,680
Speaker 3: Oh, you can get a higher second round pick, you know.

1854
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:20,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. I would say at this point the

1855
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 4: blank in Arthur Blank, owner of the Falcons, should just

1856
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 4: be basically filled in with yeah, f me, Arthur, f me.

1857
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 4: I'm never gonna see the Falcons win. The Super Bowl.

1858
01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 4: Twenty eight to three was the.

1859
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 3: End of everything that's hard to come back from.

1860
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 4: You got two cursed teams here playing for nothing, but

1861
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:47,519
Speaker 4: with beer goggles on. It's like a beer goggles super

1862
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:50,000
Speaker 4: Bowl type of game. Oh, it's a car wreck, it's

1863
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:53,200
Speaker 4: bum fights, It's Saints Falcons. Baby, I'm in.

1864
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:55,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm out on that one, Adam. To

1865
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 3: be honest with you for real, Yeah, you don't do

1866
01:24:58,160 --> 01:24:58,720
Speaker 3: a whole lot for.

1867
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 4: Me, all right? What's up next here?

1868
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 10: Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh try, I'm so sorry.

1869
01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:26,599
Speaker 2: Yes, our old Troy potential the player coach a team

1870
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:30,559
Speaker 2: with epic failed potential this coming weekend, believe it or not, Adam,

1871
01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 2: I'm going with the Bears at home against the Steelers.

1872
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 2: I know few people have championed the turnaround of Caleb

1873
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:38,200
Speaker 2: Williams more than I have.

1874
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 3: This season.

1875
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:41,360
Speaker 2: I thought it was way too soon for people to

1876
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:43,519
Speaker 2: jump off of the bandwagon of a guy who some

1877
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:46,760
Speaker 2: scouts said could be a generational talent when he came

1878
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:51,120
Speaker 2: out of college. He's played better well you know, I

1879
01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 2: mean you saw the physical talent trophy carried that team

1880
01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 2: where they didn't have a whole lot at USC.

1881
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:58,120
Speaker 4: They just reel it in, play it safe a little

1882
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:00,439
Speaker 4: bit more, and not take some any risks, which which

1883
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:00,840
Speaker 4: he's done.

1884
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:02,639
Speaker 3: And look, you look up on the Bears for seven

1885
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:03,040
Speaker 3: to three.

1886
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:05,439
Speaker 2: You know you want to argue that they haven't beaten

1887
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:08,280
Speaker 2: anyone with the winning record these season, fair, but that

1888
01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 2: schedule is out of their control. You play who's in

1889
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 2: front of you, and whatever of the cliche you want

1890
01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:12,720
Speaker 2: to throw in there.

1891
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:14,639
Speaker 3: If you can tear down and rebuild an.

1892
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:18,320
Speaker 2: Entire offensive philosophy while going through growing pains while also

1893
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:20,720
Speaker 2: winning games, I think that's a great scenario for Ben

1894
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:23,960
Speaker 2: Johnson play to win the gate. That's right, Herm, You

1895
01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 2: absolutely do. And they've been doing a lot of winning

1896
01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:28,600
Speaker 2: so far this year, so there's no better way for

1897
01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 2: Caleb to go through his lumps while playing in meaningful

1898
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:34,719
Speaker 2: games in November and December, and Sunday's game against Pittsburgh

1899
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:37,040
Speaker 2: is about as meaningful as it's going to get Steelers

1900
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:40,439
Speaker 2: in a similar position where they're fighting for their playoff

1901
01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 2: lives and they can feel the hot breath of the

1902
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens breathing down their necks in the AFC North.

1903
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 2: We talked about this earlier in the season with the

1904
01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 2: Steelers about how befuddling it was that their defense had

1905
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 2: performed so poorly.

1906
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:55,400
Speaker 3: I mean, especially considering they didn't have any major injuries.

1907
01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 2: All their horses were there, they just weren't performing for

1908
01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:01,320
Speaker 2: whatever particular reason. Now fast forward over the past couple

1909
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:03,920
Speaker 2: of weeks, and even if the numbers don't necessarily show it,

1910
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:07,360
Speaker 2: their defense is actually playing a lot better. And if anything,

1911
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 2: the offense has just been so inept it's placed the

1912
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:12,440
Speaker 2: defense and some really bad situations.

1913
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:15,479
Speaker 4: Oh come on, Aaron Rodgers has a broken wrist. Oh wait,

1914
01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:17,639
Speaker 4: that's how I was throwing hand. It just happened last

1915
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:18,040
Speaker 4: It just.

1916
01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:20,080
Speaker 3: Happened last week. What happened to the previous two months.

1917
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 2: All that being said, I do think this weekend could

1918
01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:24,840
Speaker 2: end up being an epic fail for Chicago, even being

1919
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 2: at home against Pittsburgh. Even when the Steelers were struggling

1920
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 2: on defense earlier in the year, when they did win

1921
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:32,880
Speaker 2: games and when they did play well, it was because

1922
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:35,800
Speaker 2: they were able to force turnovers. Yes, Caleb has cut

1923
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:38,680
Speaker 2: down on his turnovers and SaaS considerably this year, but

1924
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 2: we talked about it all the time. Improvement for young

1925
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 2: players is almost never linear, So in this situation, with

1926
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 2: a desperate Steeler team with potentially a backup quarterback with

1927
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:51,920
Speaker 2: fairly low expectations against an improving Bear squad, I can

1928
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 2: absolutely see Pittsburgh not only coming away with the victory

1929
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:57,240
Speaker 2: but actually a fairly convincing one here against the Bears.

1930
01:27:57,280 --> 01:28:01,040
Speaker 4: Wow, I wonder if that's for shadowing for two on

1931
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:04,599
Speaker 4: two off ay too. All right, my olde Troy epic fail.

1932
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 4: We talked about it earlier. I don't get it. The

1933
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:10,720
Speaker 4: Bengals are three and seven. What is the point of

1934
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow playing like they could win their next seven

1935
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:17,640
Speaker 4: games and that would probably get them the division? Is

1936
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:18,280
Speaker 4: that likely?

1937
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:19,320
Speaker 5: Hell?

1938
01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:22,679
Speaker 4: No, they likely end up seven to ten at best.

1939
01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:26,320
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow is not playing defense. He could keep their

1940
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 4: offense on the field more, which I guess could help

1941
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:31,120
Speaker 4: the defense, but or he scores too fast. All I

1942
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:33,720
Speaker 4: see is a lost season for an injury prone quarterback

1943
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:37,639
Speaker 4: behind a mediocre line and a bad defense that has

1944
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:40,960
Speaker 4: epic fail potential. Here he gets hurt again in a

1945
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:45,479
Speaker 4: lost year where you weren't making the playoffs? Like, what

1946
01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:47,840
Speaker 4: are we doing? He might be the best QB in

1947
01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 4: the league. Honestly, I'm not risking that. I'm not if

1948
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:55,720
Speaker 4: I'm Jamar Chase, I'm saying the reason I spit on

1949
01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:58,719
Speaker 4: Jalen Ramsey is because it was actually a natural spit

1950
01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:01,280
Speaker 4: take reaction to hearing the news that Joe Burrow could

1951
01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 4: be coming back, Like why I say pack it in.

1952
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:07,880
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure Chase probably wants Burrow back, he wants

1953
01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:08,760
Speaker 2: to hit his incentives.

1954
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:11,599
Speaker 4: You no, he ain't back this week. He suspended as

1955
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 4: he should be. Oh yeah, that was ridiculous pulling a

1956
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:15,559
Speaker 4: Bill Romanowski like that. Yeah.

1957
01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:18,240
Speaker 3: No, I don't blame Jalen Ramsey one bit.

1958
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:21,000
Speaker 2: I find suspensions all that stuff you do that that's

1959
01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:21,639
Speaker 2: next level.

1960
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:25,439
Speaker 4: Here's the other reason I want to see what Zach

1961
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:29,439
Speaker 4: Taylor can do. He looks like a Joe Burrow merchant.

1962
01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:31,400
Speaker 4: I put him on the hot seat like a month ago.

1963
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 4: You did, I remember that because he got nothing out

1964
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:37,040
Speaker 4: of Jake Browning, and that's what he's supposed to be

1965
01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:39,719
Speaker 4: good at here. But they're kind of like the Denver

1966
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:43,280
Speaker 4: Nuggets with Jokic. You know why Mike Malone got fired

1967
01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:46,040
Speaker 4: because when Jokis was off the court, they were the

1968
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:48,000
Speaker 4: worst team in the league. You look at the numbers,

1969
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:51,360
Speaker 4: it never changed. Same with their GM and Calvin Booth

1970
01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:54,479
Speaker 4: getting fired. They both were getting by because of one

1971
01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:57,680
Speaker 4: player carrying them, and without that player, they got exposed.

1972
01:29:58,160 --> 01:30:01,559
Speaker 4: So I'd say, let's keep evaluating how things look without

1973
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:05,320
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow and who's actually pulling their weight and who's not.

1974
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:08,920
Speaker 4: So he's not out there covering up for Zach Taylor's mistakes.

1975
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 4: He could be on the hot seat. He has a

1976
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:14,240
Speaker 4: lot to prove. He made his way to being a

1977
01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 4: head coach by supposedly being a QB whisperer type. He

1978
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:20,519
Speaker 4: got the I guess. I don't want to say the

1979
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:23,599
Speaker 4: best out of Jared Goff. He got more out of him,

1980
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:27,480
Speaker 4: but more than Jeff Fisher did. That's not saying a lot.

1981
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:29,559
Speaker 4: And at this point you got to say Jared Goff

1982
01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:32,880
Speaker 4: is just good. It doesn't matter who's there, who's coaching him.

1983
01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:35,240
Speaker 4: He's a good player. He's not a system guy. I

1984
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:37,440
Speaker 4: don't think he's solid regardless.

1985
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:39,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, they definitely built the system around his

1986
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:41,600
Speaker 2: skill set for him to thrive in. I don't know

1987
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:44,639
Speaker 2: if he's like scheme diverse. Well, he plays extremely well

1988
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:46,120
Speaker 2: in the situation that he's in.

1989
01:30:46,479 --> 01:30:49,839
Speaker 4: I just don't get how Zach Taylor gets a pass

1990
01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:52,519
Speaker 4: for not getting more out of Jake Browning, who looked

1991
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:54,800
Speaker 4: okay a couple of years ago, and then he has

1992
01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:58,000
Speaker 4: to go get Joe Flacco, who's a finished product. He

1993
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:00,519
Speaker 4: doesn't have to coach him up at all. What is

1994
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:03,680
Speaker 4: he doing exactly out there? Why not bring in a

1995
01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:06,960
Speaker 4: more defensive minded coach fix the defense because I'm pretty

1996
01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:08,840
Speaker 4: sure Joe Burrow's got things taken care of on the

1997
01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:09,759
Speaker 4: offensive side.

1998
01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:12,840
Speaker 2: So this is the difficult part for me. Talking about Cincinnatis.

1999
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:14,720
Speaker 2: That kind of put them in the Miami category where

2000
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 2: I feel like it's less coaching and more personnel based,

2001
01:31:17,160 --> 01:31:19,840
Speaker 2: especially defensively. They went to the Super Bowl in twenty

2002
01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:23,599
Speaker 2: twenty one. Their defense was excellent, their offense was very good,

2003
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:25,479
Speaker 2: and people thought that Zach Taylor was.

2004
01:31:25,479 --> 01:31:28,000
Speaker 3: A rising star at the head coaching. At the head

2005
01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:29,120
Speaker 3: coaching position.

2006
01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:31,559
Speaker 2: It's just really hard, Like I mean, look, people think

2007
01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:34,439
Speaker 2: that there's issues in Minnesota, like they have one of

2008
01:31:34,479 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 2: the best coaches in the NFL, and JJ McCarthy's underperforming

2009
01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:39,800
Speaker 2: and people are talking about him potentially being on the

2010
01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:41,400
Speaker 2: hot seat, which I think is totally ridiculous.

2011
01:31:41,439 --> 01:31:43,479
Speaker 3: Kevin O'Connell, I think is one of the best coaches, yeah,

2012
01:31:43,479 --> 01:31:44,200
Speaker 3: in the NFL.

2013
01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 2: So just because it doesn't work out with a certain

2014
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:47,880
Speaker 2: it might not necessarily be the coach.

2015
01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:49,519
Speaker 3: Baby j Brown just ain't that good.

2016
01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:53,880
Speaker 4: So I just don't know what he's doing. Because they

2017
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:57,240
Speaker 4: look like a fraction of themselves without Burrow.

2018
01:31:57,439 --> 01:31:59,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how much he can do. When

2019
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:02,400
Speaker 2: you have that, the entire team, especially the offense, is

2020
01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:05,439
Speaker 2: built around that guy, and your defense is so horrible.

2021
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:08,160
Speaker 2: This reminds me of Tom Moore, the longtime assistant who

2022
01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:10,120
Speaker 2: I think is still around as an assistant for somebody.

2023
01:32:10,160 --> 01:32:12,720
Speaker 2: He's like ninety years old, still consulting for a team

2024
01:32:12,760 --> 01:32:13,240
Speaker 2: at this point.

2025
01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:14,559
Speaker 4: More Tom Moore, he was.

2026
01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:17,880
Speaker 2: Peyton Manning's offensive coordinator for all those years with the Colts. Yeah,

2027
01:32:17,920 --> 01:32:19,920
Speaker 2: and it goes back to our conversation earlier in the

2028
01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:22,280
Speaker 2: show about backup quarterbacks and how many reps they get.

2029
01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:24,479
Speaker 2: And someone asked Tom More, like, how come you're backup

2030
01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:26,280
Speaker 2: quarter but why does Peyton Manning take one hundred and

2031
01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:28,639
Speaker 2: two percent of the reps every single week? He says,

2032
01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:31,960
Speaker 2: because if Peyton Manning gets hurt were ft, it doesn't matter.

2033
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:34,519
Speaker 4: So what was the record the one year he did

2034
01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:34,920
Speaker 4: get hurt?

2035
01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:37,120
Speaker 2: There were one in fifteen final I think there were

2036
01:32:37,160 --> 01:32:40,800
Speaker 2: one in fifteen or something like that. He wasn't It

2037
01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:43,320
Speaker 2: was like it does so our backup quarterback, it does

2038
01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:45,439
Speaker 2: not matter how many reps he gets. Peyton Manning is

2039
01:32:45,439 --> 01:32:47,559
Speaker 2: our offense Joe Burrow is their offense.

2040
01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:47,840
Speaker 3: Now.

2041
01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:50,000
Speaker 2: Is that a function of Zach Taylor and what he

2042
01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:53,120
Speaker 2: is or isn't doing, or is that just the limitations

2043
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:55,280
Speaker 2: of what he has to work with for that organization,

2044
01:32:55,640 --> 01:32:58,679
Speaker 2: knowing how they pinch pennies and really scamp on the roster.

2045
01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:03,320
Speaker 4: I just monitoring. I think it's a worry, guys. I'm

2046
01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:04,960
Speaker 4: on it. I'm monitoring this situation.

2047
01:33:05,439 --> 01:33:07,280
Speaker 3: It's a fair criticism. He's the guy at the helm.

2048
01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:09,439
Speaker 2: I think you also say that the Bengals, and this

2049
01:33:09,479 --> 01:33:12,280
Speaker 2: is part of them being i'll say frugal to be nice,

2050
01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:15,760
Speaker 2: they get very long leashes to their coaches because they

2051
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:17,439
Speaker 2: do not want to pay guys not to be there

2052
01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:21,360
Speaker 2: se Marvin Lewis, and Marvin Lewis never sniffed a Super

2053
01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:22,799
Speaker 2: Bowl he didn't want a playoff game.

2054
01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:26,920
Speaker 4: Because of their owner issue. It is hard to figure

2055
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:29,559
Speaker 4: out exactly where the issue is.

2056
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:31,840
Speaker 2: Sometimes, yea winning at being a head coach for an

2057
01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:34,080
Speaker 2: organization like that is extremely difficult.

2058
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:36,000
Speaker 3: Your hands are tied to a certain degree.

2059
01:33:36,160 --> 01:33:36,800
Speaker 4: What's up next?

2060
01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:40,080
Speaker 1: Mark under the microscope?

2061
01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:44,840
Speaker 3: All right, game, team player. Everyone should watch closely this weekend.

2062
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:47,160
Speaker 2: I'm going with those Dallas Cowboys at home against the

2063
01:33:47,160 --> 01:33:50,120
Speaker 2: Philadelphia Eagles. It would not be a six pack without

2064
01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:53,360
Speaker 2: the inclusion of the Dallas Cowboys. I mean, we're talking headshows,

2065
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:55,479
Speaker 2: so we have to do this right now. Last week

2066
01:33:55,479 --> 01:33:57,320
Speaker 2: I had them in my redemption around. I said they

2067
01:33:57,479 --> 01:33:59,839
Speaker 2: had to lay the woods to the Raiders, and thankfully

2068
01:33:59,880 --> 01:34:00,360
Speaker 2: for them.

2069
01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:01,799
Speaker 4: They did.

2070
01:34:01,920 --> 01:34:02,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2071
01:34:02,200 --> 01:34:04,479
Speaker 2: Now, which, by the way, can I go back to

2072
01:34:04,479 --> 01:34:07,040
Speaker 2: the beginning of that game and that soft as suspension

2073
01:34:07,120 --> 01:34:08,920
Speaker 2: or whatever you want to call it for Ceedee Lamb

2074
01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:12,360
Speaker 2: oh and George Pickens, Yeah, please do so. For the

2075
01:34:12,479 --> 01:34:14,599
Speaker 2: entirety of the week, we had no idea exactly what

2076
01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:16,840
Speaker 2: they did. All we know is there were benched for

2077
01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:20,519
Speaker 2: a series for disciplinary reasons. Ceedee Lamb comes out on

2078
01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:24,320
Speaker 2: Thursday and says they were having dinner at a hotel

2079
01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:26,880
Speaker 2: casino and they lost track of time.

2080
01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:31,439
Speaker 3: Believe that if you want. I don't know. Only they

2081
01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:32,240
Speaker 3: and God know that.

2082
01:34:32,680 --> 01:34:34,720
Speaker 2: But I do know they mis curfew and that is

2083
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:36,920
Speaker 2: the reason why they were suspended for the first series.

2084
01:34:37,560 --> 01:34:41,080
Speaker 2: But my question is if it's only for the first

2085
01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 2: series for who for what? To quote the great Ricky Waters, like,

2086
01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:50,519
Speaker 2: what does that really do for anybody? You either find them,

2087
01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:53,680
Speaker 2: you suspend them for the entire game. First of all,

2088
01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:56,040
Speaker 2: I understand why you wouldn't suspend them for the entire game,

2089
01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:58,200
Speaker 2: because you want to win. And that's why we always

2090
01:34:58,200 --> 01:35:01,479
Speaker 2: talk about juggling star plays and rank and file. There's

2091
01:35:01,479 --> 01:35:03,280
Speaker 2: always gonna be a little bit of a difference there.

2092
01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:05,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, but more talent you have, the more you can

2093
01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:06,040
Speaker 4: get away with.

2094
01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:08,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, they know they need Pickings and Lamb to win games.

2095
01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:10,280
Speaker 2: Although you can argue whether or not they actually needed

2096
01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:11,280
Speaker 2: them to beat the Raiders or not.

2097
01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:13,120
Speaker 3: And Pickings certainly had a huge game.

2098
01:35:13,160 --> 01:35:15,160
Speaker 4: I won't argue with that, Kevin, they didn't need them.

2099
01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:19,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like we know, the rules are different for star players.

2100
01:35:19,360 --> 01:35:21,759
Speaker 2: I remember a few years ago when Aaron Donald, remember

2101
01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:23,880
Speaker 2: he swung his helmet at a Bengals player doing a

2102
01:35:23,960 --> 01:35:26,640
Speaker 2: joint workout. It was a joint practice at the end

2103
01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:29,680
Speaker 2: of the preseason between the Bengals and the Rams, and

2104
01:35:29,720 --> 01:35:31,720
Speaker 2: the Rams didn't do anything about it. Now, this was

2105
01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:34,680
Speaker 2: not a game, so it was a practice, so the

2106
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:37,479
Speaker 2: team had to basically levy any sort of punishment, and

2107
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:40,160
Speaker 2: it sounds like they didn't levy any sort of punishment

2108
01:35:40,160 --> 01:35:40,759
Speaker 2: in that situation.

2109
01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:43,320
Speaker 4: I wouldn't want to punish a man of that size

2110
01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:45,559
Speaker 4: either well, look, you talk about we're nice.

2111
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:52,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, if that was Aaron Johnson, a backup defensive end,

2112
01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:54,559
Speaker 2: the Rams are fining and suspending him for a game.

2113
01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:57,120
Speaker 2: Teams always talk real tough about having the right culture

2114
01:35:57,120 --> 01:35:59,439
Speaker 2: and setting an example when it is the rank and

2115
01:35:59,439 --> 01:36:01,320
Speaker 2: file play who runs a follow of the rules, but

2116
01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:04,320
Speaker 2: it almost never happens when it's a star player who

2117
01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:08,040
Speaker 2: gets suspended for conduct detrimental. I understand why it's that way.

2118
01:36:08,240 --> 01:36:09,880
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you that I don't agree with it.

2119
01:36:10,520 --> 01:36:13,759
Speaker 2: So if what CD and Pickins did was that minor,

2120
01:36:14,080 --> 01:36:16,320
Speaker 2: then they shouldn't have been disciplined at all, or just

2121
01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:18,479
Speaker 2: find him or something, or make them sing a song

2122
01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:21,160
Speaker 2: in front of the teams something like that. But suspending

2123
01:36:21,200 --> 01:36:24,760
Speaker 2: it for one series does nothing for nobody. It just

2124
01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:26,880
Speaker 2: shines to spotlight on favoritism, is the way that I

2125
01:36:26,920 --> 01:36:31,880
Speaker 2: look at it for star players. Anyway, I digress. It's

2126
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:33,840
Speaker 2: not the Raiders this week. For all the criticism the

2127
01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:35,960
Speaker 2: Eagles have gotten this year for their inconsistent play and

2128
01:36:36,040 --> 01:36:38,560
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts being questioned for not being aggressive enough in

2129
01:36:38,640 --> 01:36:41,400
Speaker 2: the passing game, aj Brown complaining about his touches, or

2130
01:36:41,479 --> 01:36:43,519
Speaker 2: like thereof Eagles are eight and two.

2131
01:36:43,439 --> 01:36:45,000
Speaker 3: And their defense looks spectacular.

2132
01:36:45,160 --> 01:36:46,960
Speaker 2: You talked about them trading for Jalen Phillips and how

2133
01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:48,920
Speaker 2: big of an impact that would make. He has paid

2134
01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:52,639
Speaker 2: immediate dividends for the Philadelphia Eagles to this point. So

2135
01:36:52,720 --> 01:36:54,640
Speaker 2: they also held the Packers and Lions to ten and

2136
01:36:54,760 --> 01:36:57,400
Speaker 2: nine points and back to back weeks, doing something pretty

2137
01:36:57,400 --> 01:36:59,680
Speaker 2: special there. So this is a huge litmus test game

2138
01:36:59,680 --> 01:37:02,639
Speaker 2: for DAB. They're not gonna catch Philadelphia in the division,

2139
01:37:02,840 --> 01:37:05,320
Speaker 2: but they are still very much alive in the wildcart

2140
01:37:05,439 --> 01:37:07,200
Speaker 2: race in the NFC. If they can get themselves a

2141
01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:10,360
Speaker 2: victory against Philadelphia at home, I think it's a big

2142
01:37:10,360 --> 01:37:12,840
Speaker 2: confidence boost for them. Say, if we can beat them,

2143
01:37:12,880 --> 01:37:15,440
Speaker 2: we can beat anybody.

2144
01:37:14,479 --> 01:37:16,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, why not us?

2145
01:37:16,240 --> 01:37:18,360
Speaker 4: If they fixed our defense. Our offense has been here

2146
01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:18,800
Speaker 4: all along.

2147
01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:21,559
Speaker 2: Quinn Williams looked great last week. Again it was the Raiders,

2148
01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:24,479
Speaker 2: so take that with a grain of salt. But right

2149
01:37:24,520 --> 01:37:27,080
Speaker 2: now Dallas Cowboys one game behind the forty nine Ers

2150
01:37:27,080 --> 01:37:30,000
Speaker 2: in the lost column for the seventh seed in the NFC,

2151
01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:32,800
Speaker 2: so all is not necessarily lost. If you're a Cowboy fan,

2152
01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:35,720
Speaker 2: this is a huge matchup this weekend. I'm placing them

2153
01:37:35,800 --> 01:37:37,880
Speaker 2: under the microscope against the Philadelphia Eagles.

2154
01:37:37,880 --> 01:37:40,640
Speaker 4: All right, my under the microscope. You know, sometimes it

2155
01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:43,519
Speaker 4: can be a precursor to being on the hot seat

2156
01:37:43,720 --> 01:37:46,280
Speaker 4: heat check, heat check in the NFL six pack. If

2157
01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:49,040
Speaker 4: you're under the microscope, that's where it starts. And that's

2158
01:37:49,080 --> 01:37:51,880
Speaker 4: why I have Mike Tomlin here. I'm putting him under

2159
01:37:51,880 --> 01:37:56,400
Speaker 4: the microscope because why, well, what has he been doing

2160
01:37:56,960 --> 01:37:59,920
Speaker 4: keeping Darnell Washington a secret for so long?

2161
01:38:00,479 --> 01:38:01,960
Speaker 3: Little big secret to keep.

2162
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:06,040
Speaker 4: When we finally saw him fully unleashed. They're six seven,

2163
01:38:06,160 --> 01:38:09,840
Speaker 4: three hundred and eleven pound tight end. Last week against

2164
01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:13,240
Speaker 4: the Bengals, it looked like they snuck a full grown

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Speaker 4: man into a peewee football game. Like what did like

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Speaker 4: those Bengals get defenders? What he did to them on

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01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:24,760
Speaker 4: that thirty one yard play. That should be a play

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Speaker 4: that's sent directly to Canton or something like that, like

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01:38:27,160 --> 01:38:29,839
Speaker 4: straight to the Hall of Fame. That was the dream

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01:38:30,200 --> 01:38:35,560
Speaker 4: of refrigerator Perry or who was it Lorenzen? Who was

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01:38:35,600 --> 01:38:36,000
Speaker 4: the big.

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Speaker 2: Quarterback joins Jared Lorenzen the round mound of Touchdownskentucky quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Yes, this is exactly what it's supposed to look like

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01:38:43,960 --> 01:38:46,599
Speaker 4: when a big man is on offense with the ball

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01:38:46,640 --> 01:38:51,200
Speaker 4: in his hands. That was a massacre Darnell Washington. It

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01:38:51,280 --> 01:38:54,519
Speaker 4: was like Uma Thurman and kill Bill. He's also wearing

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Speaker 4: yellow and black and like Uma Thurman in the fight

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01:38:57,680 --> 01:39:01,120
Speaker 4: scene The Bride against the Crazy eighty eight. Darnell after

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01:39:01,160 --> 01:39:03,960
Speaker 4: that catch and run must have been like, all of

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01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:07,880
Speaker 4: you that still have your lives, may leave, but leave

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01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:13,360
Speaker 4: the limbs lost their mind now. Saying you have a

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01:39:13,479 --> 01:39:17,360
Speaker 4: Darnell Washington is like when John Hammond said we have

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01:39:17,439 --> 01:39:20,920
Speaker 4: a t Rex or Tony Stark goes we have a hulk.

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01:39:21,439 --> 01:39:25,280
Speaker 4: Like the Steelers have a Darnell Washington and Mike Tomlin

2185
01:39:25,680 --> 01:39:30,120
Speaker 4: barely even uses him, that is coaching malpractice. And if

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01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:33,240
Speaker 4: Darnell Washington is not targeted at least thirty five times

2187
01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:37,680
Speaker 4: against Chicago thirty five times at least, I don't care

2188
01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:39,880
Speaker 4: how many years they've had a winning record with Mike Tomlin,

2189
01:39:39,920 --> 01:39:43,200
Speaker 4: he's got to go. If he's not gonna feed Darnell Washington,

2190
01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:48,360
Speaker 4: feed him to Darnell Washington, that man is a beast.

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01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:49,840
Speaker 4: Feed him.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I did see that the Bears are

2193
01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:53,960
Speaker 2: gonna be down their top three linebackers this week, so

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01:39:54,360 --> 01:39:56,599
Speaker 2: good luck to those backup special teams. Guy us trying

2195
01:39:56,600 --> 01:39:59,559
Speaker 2: to keep up with basically an offensive tackle, rumbling stumbling

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01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:00,960
Speaker 2: from them right in front of you.

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Speaker 4: That's one of the greatest players I've ever seen.

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Speaker 3: No love whatsoever, trying to tackle that guy. I'll pass.

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Speaker 3: I'm out.

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Speaker 2: I'm tapping out on that one. I'm done. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: tap out on this segment. Come back, finish off the

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Speaker 2: NFL six back and talk a little bit of college

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01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:14,759
Speaker 2: football as well.

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01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:42,720
Speaker 2: catch the podcast, just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you

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01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:51,840
Speaker 3: Again.

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01:40:51,920 --> 01:40:54,600
Speaker 2: Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts,

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01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:57,240
Speaker 2: and you'll find today's full show posted right after we

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01:40:57,280 --> 01:40:58,160
Speaker 2: get off of the air.

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Speaker 4: NFL six packs still going, final redemption, all right, Kevin

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01:41:03,479 --> 01:41:03,800
Speaker 4: all Right.

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01:41:03,920 --> 01:41:06,200
Speaker 2: Team of a player looking to bounce back from last weekend,

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01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:09,320
Speaker 2: I'm going with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers against the Rams

2223
01:41:09,400 --> 01:41:11,559
Speaker 2: on Sunday night. I mentioned earlier in the six Pact

2224
01:41:11,560 --> 01:41:13,320
Speaker 2: that Bill's Bucks game last week was one of the

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01:41:13,360 --> 01:41:16,360
Speaker 2: more entertaining games of the season, high level offense from

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01:41:16,360 --> 01:41:19,439
Speaker 2: both sides pretty much from start to finish, and consider

2227
01:41:19,479 --> 01:41:21,439
Speaker 2: the fact that Bucks were right in it until the end.

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01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:24,679
Speaker 2: With the Bills, despite having pretty much a mass unit

2229
01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:27,360
Speaker 2: on offense, they've been banged up pretty much from the

2230
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:29,360
Speaker 2: start of the season. Chris god went in and out,

2231
01:41:29,640 --> 01:41:31,240
Speaker 2: they lost Mike Evans early on.

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01:41:31,479 --> 01:41:33,200
Speaker 4: Look out if they ever get healthy, that's the thing.

2233
01:41:33,240 --> 01:41:35,880
Speaker 2: Adam Bucky Irving practicing all week long, but it sounds

2234
01:41:35,880 --> 01:41:38,759
Speaker 2: like he could still be out injuries on the offensive line,

2235
01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:41,360
Speaker 2: and they find a way to just keep on moving. Meanwhile,

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01:41:41,360 --> 01:41:43,360
Speaker 2: you look at the Rams all of a sudden, and

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01:41:43,400 --> 01:41:45,559
Speaker 2: I don't know how many people recognize this. You realize

2238
01:41:45,600 --> 01:41:47,439
Speaker 2: there are the favorites to win the Super Bowl right now,

2239
01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:52,800
Speaker 2: and Matthew Stafford has now surpassed the Patriots quarterback for

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01:41:53,200 --> 01:41:57,080
Speaker 2: favorite for MVP, Drake may Nevers. And this coming off

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01:41:57,120 --> 01:41:58,559
Speaker 2: of a game where they didn't even play that well

2242
01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:00,280
Speaker 2: and they found a way to win because Sam Arnold

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01:42:00,320 --> 01:42:02,880
Speaker 2: turned into playoffs. Sam Donland through four interceptions in a

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01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:04,360
Speaker 2: big game against a big opponent I got.

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01:42:05,120 --> 01:42:05,760
Speaker 3: I'm sure you do.

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01:42:05,920 --> 01:42:08,920
Speaker 2: The Rams or any team don't need to apologize for

2247
01:42:08,920 --> 01:42:11,080
Speaker 2: getting victories, especially tough division wins.

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01:42:11,200 --> 01:42:12,160
Speaker 4: I don't apologized for.

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01:42:13,120 --> 01:42:14,800
Speaker 2: Well, if you play that game four times, I'm not

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01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:16,439
Speaker 2: so sure Seattle doesn't win three of them.

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01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:19,559
Speaker 4: Well, they got them one more time, So that's true.

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01:42:20,600 --> 01:42:23,759
Speaker 2: Now you have quality opponent who would be even better

2253
01:42:23,800 --> 01:42:26,120
Speaker 2: if they weren't be set by injuries, coming into SOFI

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01:42:26,280 --> 01:42:29,360
Speaker 2: on National TV on Sunday night and a game they

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01:42:29,439 --> 01:42:32,360
Speaker 2: really need to win, because, as you talked about, Adam,

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01:42:32,680 --> 01:42:36,000
Speaker 2: those Carolina Panthers are right there within one game of

2257
01:42:36,080 --> 01:42:38,760
Speaker 2: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for the NFC South right now,

2258
01:42:39,080 --> 01:42:41,080
Speaker 2: see Carolina team that they end up they will end

2259
01:42:41,120 --> 01:42:43,840
Speaker 2: up playing twice in a three week span at the

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01:42:43,960 --> 01:42:46,960
Speaker 2: end of the season. So the Buccaneers, similar to the Steelers,

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01:42:47,160 --> 01:42:50,679
Speaker 2: like I talked about earlier, essentially in playoff mode right now,

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01:42:50,840 --> 01:42:53,000
Speaker 2: they should view this as a must win, not only

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01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:55,639
Speaker 2: as yet another litmus test for where they stand against

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01:42:55,680 --> 01:42:58,960
Speaker 2: good teams, but really for their postseason survival. So I

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01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:01,360
Speaker 2: think it's a redemption game for Tampa Bay going into

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01:43:01,360 --> 01:43:03,840
Speaker 2: so FI against a really good Rams team, and I

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01:43:03,880 --> 01:43:06,240
Speaker 2: think Tampa really has a great chance of pulling out

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01:43:06,240 --> 01:43:09,400
Speaker 2: this win. I think they can get pressure on Matthew Stafford.

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01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:12,760
Speaker 2: I think they can. You know, Baker Mayfield has a

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01:43:12,760 --> 01:43:15,439
Speaker 2: lot of dog in them, former Ram could have some

2271
01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:17,920
Speaker 2: motivation going in there against against his former team that

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01:43:18,000 --> 01:43:19,559
Speaker 2: came in and beat the Raiders after being with the

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01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:20,559
Speaker 2: Rams for a day and a half.

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Speaker 4: I'll never forget that start.

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01:43:22,080 --> 01:43:25,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, trust me, I won't etched into my memory.

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01:43:26,680 --> 01:43:28,679
Speaker 2: I think that the Buccaneers come out with a big

2277
01:43:28,680 --> 01:43:30,800
Speaker 2: effort and at worst cover that six and a half

2278
01:43:30,840 --> 01:43:31,400
Speaker 2: point spread.

2279
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Speaker 4: Oh interesting, okay, my redemption rounds. You mentioned them. You know,

2280
01:43:36,960 --> 01:43:40,680
Speaker 4: some angry Seattle Seahawks fan must have chucked one of

2281
01:43:40,680 --> 01:43:43,559
Speaker 4: those plastic rings for a six pack of beer into

2282
01:43:43,600 --> 01:43:48,920
Speaker 4: the ocean and unfortunately they're Seahawk Quarterback Sam Donald choked

2283
01:43:48,960 --> 01:43:51,559
Speaker 4: on it. It was a big game against the Rams

2284
01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:54,639
Speaker 4: again for him, and Donald looked just as bad as

2285
01:43:54,680 --> 01:43:57,280
Speaker 4: he did at the end of last season in that

2286
01:43:57,360 --> 01:44:00,160
Speaker 4: playoff game for the Vikings. Against the Rams. If he

2287
01:44:00,200 --> 01:44:04,360
Speaker 4: looked worthless, he wins for them. In the playoffs against the.

2288
01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:07,439
Speaker 3: Rams, shook worthless like damn. That cuts to the.

2289
01:44:07,360 --> 01:44:10,679
Speaker 4: Core strong words. Did you see that game?

2290
01:44:10,840 --> 01:44:11,160
Speaker 3: I did?

2291
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:14,799
Speaker 4: If he had won that game in the playoffs against

2292
01:44:14,840 --> 01:44:18,000
Speaker 4: the Rams, he'd still be in Minnesota, Whitney. They can't

2293
01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:21,600
Speaker 4: let him go. JJ McCarthy be damned.

2294
01:44:21,320 --> 01:44:21,880
Speaker 3: By the way.

2295
01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:24,320
Speaker 2: Just based on how this season has played out for Minnesota,

2296
01:44:25,360 --> 01:44:27,479
Speaker 2: they probably still would rather have Sam Donalds in there.

2297
01:44:27,640 --> 01:44:31,040
Speaker 4: You're not lying, but last week looked pretty similar in

2298
01:44:31,160 --> 01:44:34,160
Speaker 4: just a regular season game against the Rams for him.

2299
01:44:34,680 --> 01:44:37,800
Speaker 4: But to be fair to Donald, you know, he went

2300
01:44:37,880 --> 01:44:41,040
Speaker 4: from the basically the Rose Bowl game against Penn State

2301
01:44:41,640 --> 01:44:44,479
Speaker 4: to that wild card game last year against the Rams

2302
01:44:44,840 --> 01:44:49,479
Speaker 4: without playing any significant football games. That's eight years. He

2303
01:44:49,640 --> 01:44:52,640
Speaker 4: needs more big game reps. I'm not giving up on

2304
01:44:52,760 --> 01:44:55,240
Speaker 4: him yet, And while I wouldn't call this week's game

2305
01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:58,080
Speaker 4: in Tennessee a big game, it does call for a

2306
01:44:58,120 --> 01:45:01,280
Speaker 4: big response from Sam donald. He's got to go right

2307
01:45:01,320 --> 01:45:03,640
Speaker 4: back to looking like one of the best quarterbacks in

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01:45:03,680 --> 01:45:06,439
Speaker 4: the league like he had been all this season till

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01:45:06,520 --> 01:45:09,760
Speaker 4: last Sunday. They should actually change the Titans name to

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01:45:09,800 --> 01:45:12,880
Speaker 4: the Redeemers, because if you need some redemption or get

2311
01:45:12,960 --> 01:45:15,920
Speaker 4: right game, they'll give it to you. Sam Darnold, he's

2312
01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:18,160
Speaker 4: gonna redeem himself on Sunday, or at least he better.

2313
01:45:18,200 --> 01:45:18,719
Speaker 3: He better.

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01:45:19,360 --> 01:45:21,680
Speaker 2: Can you imagine they find way to lose to the

2315
01:45:21,720 --> 01:45:22,519
Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans.

2316
01:45:22,520 --> 01:45:25,519
Speaker 4: The Titans are due. They're like they're gonna sneak up

2317
01:45:25,520 --> 01:45:28,160
Speaker 4: and bite somebody before this season is over. They've been

2318
01:45:28,280 --> 01:45:30,880
Speaker 4: kind of close a few times. Kind of I would

2319
01:45:30,880 --> 01:45:34,200
Speaker 4: hate to be that team, So I really was somebody

2320
01:45:34,200 --> 01:45:35,759
Speaker 4: getting fired if that happens.

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01:45:36,280 --> 01:45:38,360
Speaker 2: So that'll do it for the NFL six pack. We

2322
01:45:38,400 --> 01:45:40,479
Speaker 2: don't want to get into some college football talk here.

2323
01:45:40,520 --> 01:45:43,160
Speaker 2: The big story really not on the field as far

2324
01:45:43,160 --> 01:45:45,759
Speaker 2: as this weekend, as we mentioned, pretty light slate outside

2325
01:45:45,800 --> 01:45:47,920
Speaker 2: of Oregon and USC which we can get to in

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01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:50,240
Speaker 2: a second. But the big story is the future of

2327
01:45:50,360 --> 01:45:53,240
Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin, current head coach at Ole Miss ten and one,

2328
01:45:53,840 --> 01:45:55,599
Speaker 2: likely on their way to the playoff. Although we talked

2329
01:45:55,600 --> 01:45:58,040
Speaker 2: to Dan Wolkin earlier in the show and he brought

2330
01:45:58,120 --> 01:46:00,559
Speaker 2: up an interesting scenario, you know, similar to what happened

2331
01:46:00,600 --> 01:46:02,519
Speaker 2: to Florida State when Jordan Travis got hurt a couple

2332
01:46:02,560 --> 01:46:04,960
Speaker 2: of years ago. And the Committee left them out because

2333
01:46:04,960 --> 01:46:07,040
Speaker 2: they felt like, well, without your starting quarterback, you're not

2334
01:46:07,080 --> 01:46:08,519
Speaker 2: going to be competitive, so we're not going to put

2335
01:46:08,560 --> 01:46:13,680
Speaker 2: you in the playoff. The Committee, in their statement or

2336
01:46:13,760 --> 01:46:15,960
Speaker 2: their bylaws, have it written in that if there's any

2337
01:46:15,960 --> 01:46:18,280
Speaker 2: sort of major shake up with a coach or a player,

2338
01:46:18,600 --> 01:46:20,559
Speaker 2: they have their right to exclude a team based on

2339
01:46:20,600 --> 01:46:24,439
Speaker 2: that factor. So if lane Kiffin were to say, sign

2340
01:46:24,520 --> 01:46:28,080
Speaker 2: his contract with LSU and peace out to Baton Rouge

2341
01:46:28,120 --> 01:46:30,640
Speaker 2: after the egg Bowl next week, I don't know if

2342
01:46:30,640 --> 01:46:33,639
Speaker 2: the committee will do it, but based on their bylaws,

2343
01:46:33,640 --> 01:46:35,920
Speaker 2: they have the right to leave a potential eleven to

2344
01:46:35,920 --> 01:46:38,280
Speaker 2: one Ole Miss team out of the college football playoff,

2345
01:46:38,320 --> 01:46:39,280
Speaker 2: which will be insane to me.

2346
01:46:39,479 --> 01:46:44,240
Speaker 4: So it's interesting. He met with Vice Chancellor Keith Carter

2347
01:46:44,360 --> 01:46:49,080
Speaker 4: of ole Miss today and then Keith Carter released a

2348
01:46:49,160 --> 01:46:55,200
Speaker 4: statement saying the decision will come, we believe after the

2349
01:46:55,240 --> 01:46:59,439
Speaker 4: egg Bowl. Does that tell you anything about how that

2350
01:46:59,520 --> 01:47:04,240
Speaker 4: meeting or which way Lane Kiffin is leaning, because if

2351
01:47:04,240 --> 01:47:06,000
Speaker 4: he was coming back to Old Miss.

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01:47:05,800 --> 01:47:07,679
Speaker 3: I think they'd say something right now.

2353
01:47:07,800 --> 01:47:08,759
Speaker 4: They just had that meeting.

2354
01:47:08,960 --> 01:47:12,519
Speaker 2: The ultimate Lane Kiffin for as dry and drab as

2355
01:47:12,520 --> 01:47:14,760
Speaker 2: he is on camera and during the interviews is one

2356
01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:16,840
Speaker 2: of the most is one of the biggest trolls to

2357
01:47:16,960 --> 01:47:20,519
Speaker 2: ever find on social media. Yes, so I would not

2358
01:47:20,560 --> 01:47:23,160
Speaker 2: put it past them, and to get the ad and

2359
01:47:23,240 --> 01:47:25,599
Speaker 2: the chancellor and all the people that Ole miss involved too.

2360
01:47:26,280 --> 01:47:28,759
Speaker 2: String this thing out a little bit, I think, really

2361
01:47:28,840 --> 01:47:31,200
Speaker 2: let him think and sweat about it. Let's go out there,

2362
01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:33,560
Speaker 2: Let's kick Mississippi State's ass during the Egg Bowl, and

2363
01:47:33,680 --> 01:47:36,879
Speaker 2: right after it, while I'm doing the postgame interview, announce

2364
01:47:36,920 --> 01:47:38,920
Speaker 2: that I'm signing my contract extension. You know what, I'm

2365
01:47:38,920 --> 01:47:41,479
Speaker 2: gonna go straight WWE with it. Have them bring the

2366
01:47:41,479 --> 01:47:44,280
Speaker 2: contract to me while I'm talking to Holly row or

2367
01:47:44,280 --> 01:47:46,080
Speaker 2: whoever the silent report is going to be, and I'll

2368
01:47:46,080 --> 01:47:48,519
Speaker 2: sign it right here on the camera, right here on TV.

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01:47:48,960 --> 01:47:51,360
Speaker 4: I think he might go more Leo and Wolf of

2370
01:47:51,439 --> 01:47:54,920
Speaker 4: Wall Street. Okay, I'm not leaving. I'm not having leaving.

2371
01:47:55,000 --> 01:47:57,519
Speaker 4: The show goes on. This is my home. I honestly

2372
01:47:57,560 --> 01:48:00,559
Speaker 4: could see him doing that. I don't think it tells

2373
01:48:00,600 --> 01:48:03,559
Speaker 4: you much about if he's going to stay or go.

2374
01:48:03,720 --> 01:48:06,960
Speaker 4: I agree, honestly, he's that guy. I mean that picture

2375
01:48:07,000 --> 01:48:12,400
Speaker 4: he took after some hot yoga with two attractive women

2376
01:48:12,520 --> 01:48:15,240
Speaker 4: few weeks ago Yeah, was trying to imply something else.

2377
01:48:15,360 --> 01:48:18,240
Speaker 4: It was like a Johnny sins type picture, like, who

2378
01:48:18,280 --> 01:48:20,679
Speaker 4: does Lane kiffen? He thinks he's Lane Kiffin.

2379
01:48:20,680 --> 01:48:21,800
Speaker 3: That's trying to keep himself a shape.

2380
01:48:21,800 --> 01:48:21,920
Speaker 7: Mad.

2381
01:48:21,960 --> 01:48:23,439
Speaker 3: I'm just taking a couple of picture with a couple

2382
01:48:23,439 --> 01:48:23,960
Speaker 3: of his friends.

2383
01:48:24,040 --> 01:48:26,960
Speaker 4: This is this is what he does. So I don't

2384
01:48:27,320 --> 01:48:30,200
Speaker 4: I'm not sure either if he leaves. I think, like

2385
01:48:30,280 --> 01:48:34,519
Speaker 4: Dan Wilkins said, it's gonna be LSU, But I don't

2386
01:48:34,520 --> 01:48:37,240
Speaker 4: know for sure he's leaving. And I gotta say, just

2387
01:48:37,280 --> 01:48:39,280
Speaker 4: like when we were talking about Kurt.

2388
01:48:39,320 --> 01:48:41,320
Speaker 3: Kurz Signetti yet Indiana, the same situation.

2389
01:48:41,479 --> 01:48:46,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, It's like, why not build your own legacy at

2390
01:48:46,840 --> 01:48:50,120
Speaker 4: a place that, first of all hasn't won eleven games

2391
01:48:50,120 --> 01:48:52,719
Speaker 4: and sixty years. They win on Friday in the Egg Bowl.

2392
01:48:52,800 --> 01:48:56,080
Speaker 4: They do that, and you have a chance to win there.

2393
01:48:56,160 --> 01:48:59,240
Speaker 4: Now you don't have to move anywhere else. Well, you

2394
01:48:59,320 --> 01:49:02,960
Speaker 4: could be the with Penn State having a job open,

2395
01:49:03,280 --> 01:49:07,479
Speaker 4: You could be the Joe Paterno of ole Miss. You

2396
01:49:07,560 --> 01:49:11,400
Speaker 4: could be the Steve Spurrier of ole Miss. Why not

2397
01:49:11,960 --> 01:49:14,840
Speaker 4: do that instead of go somewhere else where you're always

2398
01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:18,040
Speaker 4: in some other legend shadow that you have to live

2399
01:49:18,120 --> 01:49:20,160
Speaker 4: up to those standards. Why don't you set a standard

2400
01:49:20,320 --> 01:49:20,599
Speaker 4: at all?

2401
01:49:20,680 --> 01:49:22,880
Speaker 2: Miss And for me, it's even less about living in

2402
01:49:22,920 --> 01:49:26,360
Speaker 2: the shadow of a legend and more the expectation level

2403
01:49:26,400 --> 01:49:28,479
Speaker 2: is just so much higher at a place like Florida.

2404
01:49:28,760 --> 01:49:30,479
Speaker 2: Whether it should or shouldn't be it is. Look at

2405
01:49:30,520 --> 01:49:33,799
Speaker 2: all the coaches they've had since urban Meyer left LSU.

2406
01:49:34,320 --> 01:49:37,320
Speaker 2: Their last three coaches except for Brian Kelly, all won

2407
01:49:37,400 --> 01:49:40,320
Speaker 2: national championships and all were out of the door a couple.

2408
01:49:40,040 --> 01:49:40,679
Speaker 3: Of years later.

2409
01:49:41,240 --> 01:49:44,360
Speaker 2: Like, it's an unbelievably high standard that you're held to

2410
01:49:44,640 --> 01:49:46,280
Speaker 2: coaching at places like that. And I'm not saying that

2411
01:49:46,280 --> 01:49:48,000
Speaker 2: you shouldn't be held to high standards and you shouldn't

2412
01:49:48,080 --> 01:49:50,519
Speaker 2: chase excellence, but with the way that the college football

2413
01:49:50,600 --> 01:49:53,160
Speaker 2: is set up now, you know, I think part of

2414
01:49:53,200 --> 01:49:55,240
Speaker 2: the reason why Nick Saban left he didn't want to

2415
01:49:55,240 --> 01:49:57,000
Speaker 2: deal with the NIL stuff and paying players. But I

2416
01:49:57,040 --> 01:49:58,960
Speaker 2: also think he saw the writing on the wall. He

2417
01:49:59,040 --> 01:50:01,879
Speaker 2: knew that other people were gonna pay players. Their NIL

2418
01:50:01,960 --> 01:50:03,639
Speaker 2: is going to be a big deal, the transfer portal

2419
01:50:03,680 --> 01:50:05,840
Speaker 2: was gonna be a big deal, and he was not

2420
01:50:05,880 --> 01:50:08,200
Speaker 2: gonna be able to stockpile first round picks for two

2421
01:50:08,280 --> 01:50:11,320
Speaker 2: years sitting behind guys five stars sitting behind other five

2422
01:50:11,320 --> 01:50:13,080
Speaker 2: stars before they can get their opportunity.

2423
01:50:13,320 --> 01:50:14,120
Speaker 3: Guys want to play.

2424
01:50:14,160 --> 01:50:17,000
Speaker 2: Now, you're not gonna have impact players sitting on a

2425
01:50:17,040 --> 01:50:19,559
Speaker 2: bench for you anymore. Those guys are gonna be transferring

2426
01:50:19,640 --> 01:50:22,120
Speaker 2: left and right. So that's why if you look at

2427
01:50:22,120 --> 01:50:24,639
Speaker 2: the top twenty five standards in the CFP, you see

2428
01:50:24,680 --> 01:50:27,120
Speaker 2: Texas Tech, who spent a boatload of money because of

2429
01:50:27,160 --> 01:50:29,840
Speaker 2: a booster at nil. You know, Ole Miss is up

2430
01:50:29,880 --> 01:50:32,760
Speaker 2: there as a perfect example, Indiana is up there. These

2431
01:50:32,760 --> 01:50:36,920
Speaker 2: are non traditional football powers that now that the money

2432
01:50:36,920 --> 01:50:40,439
Speaker 2: the floodgates have officially legally been opened, the world is

2433
01:50:40,439 --> 01:50:42,840
Speaker 2: your oyster, regardless of where you're coaching at. If you're

2434
01:50:42,840 --> 01:50:45,160
Speaker 2: a good enough head coach and you have enough booster

2435
01:50:45,240 --> 01:50:48,160
Speaker 2: money behind you, you could be at Alabama or uab.

2436
01:50:48,560 --> 01:50:50,839
Speaker 2: Uab is obviously not gonna be that sort of standard,

2437
01:50:50,840 --> 01:50:52,800
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying it to make a point. If

2438
01:50:52,800 --> 01:50:54,799
Speaker 2: you have a place that's willing to invest the money,

2439
01:50:54,840 --> 01:50:57,920
Speaker 2: you can win almost anywhere in this in this college

2440
01:50:57,920 --> 01:50:58,839
Speaker 2: football landscape.

2441
01:50:58,880 --> 01:51:01,880
Speaker 4: That's apparently what he was talking about with their vice

2442
01:51:01,960 --> 01:51:05,360
Speaker 4: chancellor earlier today. What's the direction of the program, How

2443
01:51:05,400 --> 01:51:10,479
Speaker 4: committed are you sell me on staying here. It sounds like,

2444
01:51:11,080 --> 01:51:15,000
Speaker 4: according to Joel Klatt, it's not about the money they

2445
01:51:15,000 --> 01:51:18,320
Speaker 4: can pay him, the exact amount that LSU is going

2446
01:51:18,400 --> 01:51:21,320
Speaker 4: to offer or Florida. So it's really about where do

2447
01:51:21,320 --> 01:51:23,360
Speaker 4: you want to live, Where do you want to build

2448
01:51:23,360 --> 01:51:24,000
Speaker 4: your legacy.

2449
01:51:24,680 --> 01:51:28,080
Speaker 2: Now, from all the reporting and people have talked about

2450
01:51:28,120 --> 01:51:29,760
Speaker 2: the fact that he's trying to revive his life. He

2451
01:51:29,800 --> 01:51:32,960
Speaker 2: doesn't drink anymore. He's mended fences with his ex wife.

2452
01:51:33,000 --> 01:51:36,120
Speaker 2: They have a cordial relationship now, like they all live

2453
01:51:36,240 --> 01:51:39,280
Speaker 2: in Oxford. He enjoys it there. The fan base loves him,

2454
01:51:39,320 --> 01:51:42,639
Speaker 2: he loves the community out there. So Van Rouge obviously

2455
01:51:42,720 --> 01:51:44,880
Speaker 2: was all foreign. It'll be a brand new experience for him.

2456
01:51:44,960 --> 01:51:46,800
Speaker 2: You have to pick up and move again. If you're

2457
01:51:46,800 --> 01:51:48,720
Speaker 2: in a place where you're comfortable, that's willing to pay

2458
01:51:48,760 --> 01:51:52,000
Speaker 2: you as much money as you potentially want. And the

2459
01:51:52,040 --> 01:51:56,120
Speaker 2: competitive advantage has been severely diminished between teams like Ole

2460
01:51:56,200 --> 01:51:58,400
Speaker 2: Miss and Alabama, and if you want to extrapolate that

2461
01:51:58,400 --> 01:52:01,040
Speaker 2: out in Michigan's Ohio States were to a certain degree,

2462
01:52:01,040 --> 01:52:03,360
Speaker 2: it doesn't really matter if you're in a major conference

2463
01:52:03,360 --> 01:52:04,920
Speaker 2: and you have a lot of money behind you.

2464
01:52:05,200 --> 01:52:07,200
Speaker 3: If I were him, I stay at ole Miss.

2465
01:52:07,320 --> 01:52:08,720
Speaker 2: I would I don't even want to deal with the

2466
01:52:08,720 --> 01:52:11,920
Speaker 2: extra the added pressure and unrealistic expectations. You know, you

2467
01:52:11,920 --> 01:52:13,960
Speaker 2: win eleven games one year for LSU, make it to

2468
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:16,720
Speaker 2: the playoff, losing the quarterfinal. The next season you lose,

2469
01:52:16,880 --> 01:52:19,120
Speaker 2: you win nine games, and they want you fired. That's

2470
01:52:19,160 --> 01:52:19,920
Speaker 2: just how that works.

2471
01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:22,720
Speaker 4: You're a mercenary if you go there. They've been through

2472
01:52:22,760 --> 01:52:27,040
Speaker 4: so many coaches that, granted, have won national championships outside

2473
01:52:27,560 --> 01:52:30,120
Speaker 4: of Brian Kelly and Tom Herman. I guess you could

2474
01:52:30,120 --> 01:52:33,760
Speaker 4: say he almost went there for a second, uh Texas.

2475
01:52:33,800 --> 01:52:39,720
Speaker 4: It's saving less miles at Odron. Why follow them? Why

2476
01:52:39,760 --> 01:52:42,400
Speaker 4: not be the guy that everybody else has to follow

2477
01:52:43,720 --> 01:52:47,640
Speaker 4: in twenty years at ole Miss? Why not just have

2478
01:52:47,760 --> 01:52:50,160
Speaker 4: your roots there. I don't get it. You can win there,

2479
01:52:50,200 --> 01:52:53,000
Speaker 4: you don't have to leave anymore, especially because it's a

2480
01:52:53,000 --> 01:52:55,800
Speaker 4: twelve team playoff. Like, it's not two teams, it's not

2481
01:52:55,880 --> 01:52:59,080
Speaker 4: four teams, it's twelve teams. They win on Friday, they

2482
01:52:59,120 --> 01:53:03,479
Speaker 4: are in in. The interesting part is okay, let's say

2483
01:53:03,520 --> 01:53:06,560
Speaker 4: he is gonna leave, they gonna let him coach in

2484
01:53:06,600 --> 01:53:09,400
Speaker 4: the playoffs. I don't think so, absolutely, of course, not, No,

2485
01:53:09,479 --> 01:53:11,680
Speaker 4: of course not, because then he could be recruiting his

2486
01:53:11,840 --> 01:53:15,559
Speaker 4: Old Miss guys to go to his new destination. That's awkward.

2487
01:53:16,320 --> 01:53:19,439
Speaker 4: So he builds all this up and could have an

2488
01:53:19,439 --> 01:53:22,400
Speaker 4: eleven win season and be in the playoff and win

2489
01:53:22,400 --> 01:53:25,599
Speaker 4: a national championship with Old Miss and just leave it

2490
01:53:26,120 --> 01:53:28,799
Speaker 4: for what an LSU team that he already beat this season.

2491
01:53:29,200 --> 01:53:31,280
Speaker 3: No, that part wouldn't make it. I don't get it.

2492
01:53:31,439 --> 01:53:34,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's a train of thought that, hey, he'll

2493
01:53:34,560 --> 01:53:36,960
Speaker 2: coach out as far as he can possibly go and

2494
01:53:37,000 --> 01:53:39,280
Speaker 2: then eventually, you know, make his decision at that point.

2495
01:53:39,360 --> 01:53:42,200
Speaker 2: But especially considering where the transfer portal Windo is now

2496
01:53:42,240 --> 01:53:44,519
Speaker 2: in early January, I mean, by the time you get

2497
01:53:44,560 --> 01:53:45,840
Speaker 2: to the end of the playoff and if they make

2498
01:53:45,880 --> 01:53:48,519
Speaker 2: it to a semi final or the final, I mean,

2499
01:53:48,560 --> 01:53:50,920
Speaker 2: you're basically gonna miss out on the entire transfer portal.

2500
01:53:51,280 --> 01:53:53,559
Speaker 2: All that's gonna be gone for you. The early recruiting

2501
01:53:53,600 --> 01:53:55,639
Speaker 2: in early December is gonna be gone for you. That's

2502
01:53:55,680 --> 01:53:57,800
Speaker 2: which is, by the way, the big reason why Old

2503
01:53:57,800 --> 01:53:59,639
Speaker 2: Miss as a school wanted him to make a decision

2504
01:53:59,680 --> 01:54:02,200
Speaker 2: early than later, so they can decide what they want

2505
01:54:02,240 --> 01:54:04,000
Speaker 2: to do with their next head coach. So they don't

2506
01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:05,839
Speaker 2: lose out on the recruiting cycle and now the transfer

2507
01:54:05,840 --> 01:54:08,040
Speaker 2: port up up portal cycle.

2508
01:54:08,160 --> 01:54:11,320
Speaker 4: I hate that the decision has to be made right now,

2509
01:54:11,439 --> 01:54:15,599
Speaker 4: and it sounds like from reputable reporters there are players

2510
01:54:15,600 --> 01:54:18,880
Speaker 4: that are already upset with him, and it's saying, hey,

2511
01:54:18,920 --> 01:54:20,760
Speaker 4: if you want to leave, leave, why are you even

2512
01:54:20,760 --> 01:54:22,880
Speaker 4: having these conversations like, we're out here trying to win.

2513
01:54:23,240 --> 01:54:25,799
Speaker 4: We bought in all year long to what you were saying,

2514
01:54:26,200 --> 01:54:28,720
Speaker 4: and now you're talking about leaving us. Remember Season one

2515
01:54:28,800 --> 01:54:34,200
Speaker 4: or Friday Night Lights coach Eric Taylor is apparently taking

2516
01:54:34,960 --> 01:54:37,800
Speaker 4: a head coaching job I think at a college. Yes,

2517
01:54:37,960 --> 01:54:41,160
Speaker 4: he's moving on up and they're in the state title

2518
01:54:41,240 --> 01:54:46,080
Speaker 4: game and seven Saracen is like, why is everybody always

2519
01:54:46,160 --> 01:54:46,520
Speaker 4: leaving me?

2520
01:54:46,600 --> 01:54:46,800
Speaker 10: Man?

2521
01:54:47,240 --> 01:54:51,280
Speaker 4: Because he had issues at home growing up. That was

2522
01:54:51,280 --> 01:54:54,560
Speaker 4: a powerful scene, but it's like, yeah, look, it's not

2523
01:54:54,640 --> 01:54:56,160
Speaker 4: the same as it used to be because there is

2524
01:54:56,200 --> 01:54:59,600
Speaker 4: a trans transfer portal and the kids aren't getting as

2525
01:54:59,600 --> 01:55:01,920
Speaker 4: screwed is they used to. My coach is always using

2526
01:55:01,920 --> 01:55:04,040
Speaker 4: places as a stepping stone to go somewhere better.

2527
01:55:04,080 --> 01:55:05,240
Speaker 3: And it's a playoff bracket.

2528
01:55:05,280 --> 01:55:07,120
Speaker 2: This is not your all for a month before you

2529
01:55:07,160 --> 01:55:09,160
Speaker 2: play a BCS game or a bowl game or something

2530
01:55:09,200 --> 01:55:10,040
Speaker 2: on January first.

2531
01:55:10,080 --> 01:55:14,400
Speaker 4: But it still smells rotten when you're saying, buy in

2532
01:55:14,680 --> 01:55:17,600
Speaker 4: all year to what I'm doing here, and we can

2533
01:55:17,640 --> 01:55:21,920
Speaker 4: win it all, and then they're choosing to leave you. Right,

2534
01:55:22,040 --> 01:55:24,960
Speaker 4: is that moment is approaching to have a chance to

2535
01:55:25,000 --> 01:55:28,720
Speaker 4: win it all. It feels dirty, It feels nasty.

2536
01:55:28,800 --> 01:55:30,760
Speaker 2: It does part of me, A large part of me

2537
01:55:30,800 --> 01:55:32,840
Speaker 2: certainly hopes that he stays at Ole Miss and LSU

2538
01:55:32,840 --> 01:55:34,840
Speaker 2: can figure their own stuff out and get somebody else in.

2539
01:55:34,840 --> 01:55:37,400
Speaker 4: The fold quickly. Yes, my Ducks winning tomorrow right.

2540
01:55:37,480 --> 01:55:41,800
Speaker 2: Yes, USC has improved, but they still can't stop the run.

2541
01:55:41,800 --> 01:55:43,240
Speaker 2: They're one of the worst teams in the Big Ten

2542
01:55:43,240 --> 01:55:46,000
Speaker 2: at stopping the run despite their nine and two record.

2543
01:55:46,360 --> 01:55:48,440
Speaker 2: So I think that the Oregon Ducks run all over

2544
01:55:48,480 --> 01:55:49,920
Speaker 2: them in a pick up a victory. I think the

2545
01:55:49,920 --> 01:55:51,520
Speaker 2: spread is nine and a half. I think some places

2546
01:55:51,600 --> 01:55:54,200
Speaker 2: even have it at ten. I think that sounds about right.

2547
01:55:54,240 --> 01:55:56,280
Speaker 2: I can see the Ducks winning by about two touchdowns, and.

2548
01:55:56,240 --> 01:55:58,680
Speaker 4: Also they need to I don't know if they get

2549
01:55:58,720 --> 01:56:01,560
Speaker 4: in Like Dan was telling us, they absolutely this is

2550
01:56:01,640 --> 01:56:02,200
Speaker 4: the playoff games.

2551
01:56:02,240 --> 01:56:04,520
Speaker 2: There's no ifans or butts about it. Basically, if they

2552
01:56:04,520 --> 01:56:06,520
Speaker 2: were to lose to USC, they would need a giant

2553
01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:08,280
Speaker 2: level of dominoes to fall in front of them for

2554
01:56:08,280 --> 01:56:09,960
Speaker 2: them have a chance to make it into the playoffs.

2555
01:56:10,080 --> 01:56:11,920
Speaker 2: So this is a playoff game for both the USC

2556
01:56:11,960 --> 01:56:13,680
Speaker 2: and Oregon. I think the Ducks win it, all.

2557
01:56:13,640 --> 01:56:17,280
Speaker 4: Right, I'm with you, counting up next? Who's winning? And

2558
01:56:17,320 --> 01:56:20,200
Speaker 4: two on two off? Or did we tie again for

2559
01:56:20,320 --> 01:56:23,480
Speaker 4: like the fourth straight week? This is fn A on FSR.

2560
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Speaker 1: App mark two on two on.

2573
01:57:11,280 --> 01:57:15,800
Speaker 4: All Right, Kevin, So, yes, it was the third or

2574
01:57:15,840 --> 01:57:16,720
Speaker 4: fourth straight week.

2575
01:57:16,800 --> 01:57:17,920
Speaker 3: I think the fourth straight week.

2576
01:57:18,000 --> 01:57:21,240
Speaker 4: Yes, a month of us both going two and two.

2577
01:57:22,160 --> 01:57:28,720
Speaker 4: So I'm currently twenty two and twenty two and you're

2578
01:57:28,840 --> 01:57:31,720
Speaker 4: twenty five and nineteen.

2579
01:57:33,200 --> 01:57:34,080
Speaker 3: Sounds about right to me.

2580
01:57:34,880 --> 01:57:36,320
Speaker 4: What do you want to give me with? I'll say

2581
01:57:36,360 --> 01:57:38,360
Speaker 4: so two on, two off. If you guys don't know,

2582
01:57:38,440 --> 01:57:41,440
Speaker 4: we got to gamble not, you know, just give our

2583
01:57:41,480 --> 01:57:46,280
Speaker 4: picks on two favorites, one two underdogs. So two on

2584
01:57:47,520 --> 01:57:48,240
Speaker 4: for the favorites.

2585
01:57:48,280 --> 01:57:51,160
Speaker 2: Kevin, all right, So my first on is the Patriots

2586
01:57:51,520 --> 01:57:53,920
Speaker 2: seven point favorites over those Cincinnati Bengals. I don't think

2587
01:57:53,920 --> 01:57:56,880
Speaker 2: it matters who's under center. This the Patriots bone to

2588
01:57:56,920 --> 01:57:59,160
Speaker 2: five playoff team. I think they're gonna end up winning

2589
01:57:59,200 --> 01:58:03,000
Speaker 2: the AFC. I think them at least getting a touchdown

2590
01:58:03,080 --> 01:58:04,480
Speaker 2: victory over the Bengals.

2591
01:58:04,080 --> 01:58:07,320
Speaker 3: I think is in order. So what about Burrow? It

2592
01:58:07,440 --> 01:58:10,840
Speaker 3: doesn't matter. I won't say I could not care less

2593
01:58:10,840 --> 01:58:11,280
Speaker 3: about him.

2594
01:58:11,320 --> 01:58:13,400
Speaker 2: I hope he's healthy, and I hope he plays well

2595
01:58:13,400 --> 01:58:15,280
Speaker 2: if he does play, But I don't think it's gonna

2596
01:58:15,320 --> 01:58:15,840
Speaker 2: end up mattering.

2597
01:58:15,880 --> 01:58:20,520
Speaker 4: Do you think the line is assuming yes that, I'm

2598
01:58:20,560 --> 01:58:21,120
Speaker 4: pretty sure.

2599
01:58:21,160 --> 01:58:23,240
Speaker 3: This was a double digits to open the week.

2600
01:58:23,480 --> 01:58:24,320
Speaker 4: Okay, And when.

2601
01:58:24,200 --> 01:58:26,200
Speaker 2: News came out that Borrow might play. I think it

2602
01:58:26,280 --> 01:58:27,720
Speaker 2: dropped considerably.

2603
01:58:27,240 --> 01:58:30,440
Speaker 4: So he's worth three points. Yes, so New England minus seven.

2604
01:58:31,960 --> 01:58:33,960
Speaker 4: I got the same thing. Okay, you know I love

2605
01:58:34,000 --> 01:58:36,920
Speaker 4: the Patriots and Drake May and that Bengals defense has

2606
01:58:37,080 --> 01:58:40,480
Speaker 4: been bad so far. Give me another on with a favorite.

2607
01:58:40,560 --> 01:58:43,360
Speaker 2: Packers six and a half point favorites over the Minnesota Vikings.

2608
01:58:43,360 --> 01:58:44,880
Speaker 2: I am not a fan of what I've been seeing

2609
01:58:44,920 --> 01:58:47,000
Speaker 2: with JJ McCarthy these last couple of weeks. He can

2610
01:58:47,000 --> 01:58:49,080
Speaker 2: talk about being mentally locked in and getting in his

2611
01:58:49,120 --> 01:58:51,640
Speaker 2: breathing space or whatever stuff he was talking about this week.

2612
01:58:52,080 --> 01:58:54,440
Speaker 2: Packers I think are pretty desperate at this point in time.

2613
01:58:54,800 --> 01:58:57,440
Speaker 2: I know they're still in the postseason. They're probably gonna

2614
01:58:57,440 --> 01:58:59,440
Speaker 2: make the playoffs, but they have not really impressed these

2615
01:58:59,480 --> 01:59:02,080
Speaker 2: last few weeks. I think they get a convincing victory

2616
01:59:02,080 --> 01:59:05,000
Speaker 2: over the Minnesota Vikings this weekend and show that they

2617
01:59:05,000 --> 01:59:07,400
Speaker 2: are the Super Bowl contender that Adam believes that they are.

2618
01:59:08,360 --> 01:59:10,840
Speaker 4: Used to believe, well, at least hopes that they are. Yeah,

2619
01:59:11,040 --> 01:59:12,960
Speaker 4: they're letting me down a little bit. I'm gonna go

2620
01:59:13,480 --> 01:59:17,200
Speaker 4: Detroit minus thirteen against the New York Giants. I just

2621
01:59:17,240 --> 01:59:21,480
Speaker 4: feel like that Detroit Lions offense. They are ready to

2622
01:59:21,600 --> 01:59:24,560
Speaker 4: explode after what happened last week with all those fourth

2623
01:59:24,640 --> 01:59:27,360
Speaker 4: downs that they missed. They got to improve. They're back

2624
01:59:27,400 --> 01:59:31,040
Speaker 4: at home. It's a big number, but I got Detroit

2625
01:59:31,080 --> 01:59:34,560
Speaker 4: minus thirteen. Give me a couple offs. Give me your underdogs.

2626
01:59:34,600 --> 01:59:36,960
Speaker 2: Sure definitely want to see how they adjustin not having

2627
01:59:37,000 --> 01:59:39,240
Speaker 2: Sam Laporta in for the rest of the season. I'm

2628
01:59:39,280 --> 01:59:41,400
Speaker 2: going with those Pittsburgh Steelers. I talked about it in

2629
01:59:41,440 --> 01:59:44,080
Speaker 2: the six pack. Two and a half point underdogs against

2630
01:59:44,120 --> 01:59:46,240
Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears. I think they end up covering that spread.

2631
01:59:46,280 --> 01:59:48,840
Speaker 2: I think it's a big performance by that Steeler defense

2632
01:59:48,880 --> 01:59:51,200
Speaker 2: against Caleb Williams. So I got the Steelers as two

2633
01:59:51,240 --> 01:59:53,560
Speaker 2: and a half point dogs as my first off.

2634
01:59:54,320 --> 01:59:59,320
Speaker 4: I will go with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers plus seven.

2635
02:00:00,960 --> 02:00:02,520
Speaker 3: Oh, you got seven on this, okay? I had six

2636
02:00:02,520 --> 02:00:02,880
Speaker 3: and a half.

2637
02:00:03,080 --> 02:00:06,760
Speaker 4: Take it on the Rams. Tampa Bay also needs a

2638
02:00:06,760 --> 02:00:10,120
Speaker 4: big response SUD and some good health. I don't know

2639
02:00:10,120 --> 02:00:14,040
Speaker 4: if that's gonna happen, but tleas cover, I don't know

2640
02:00:14,080 --> 02:00:16,960
Speaker 4: if they're gonna win. I like Tampa Bay plus seven.

2641
02:00:17,080 --> 02:00:19,240
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, if you're giving me the hook, I had

2642
02:00:19,280 --> 02:00:21,640
Speaker 2: the Tampa Bay plus six and a half. But if

2643
02:00:21,640 --> 02:00:24,240
Speaker 2: you're gonna give me the hook here, we'll surpass it

2644
02:00:24,280 --> 02:00:26,680
Speaker 2: and go seven of worse for me. So I also

2645
02:00:26,760 --> 02:00:29,040
Speaker 2: like Tampa Bay. I talked about this excuse me in

2646
02:00:29,080 --> 02:00:31,640
Speaker 2: the six pack. They're a resilient team despite the fact

2647
02:00:31,640 --> 02:00:34,680
Speaker 2: that they've been as banged up to your point, heaven forbid,

2648
02:00:34,720 --> 02:00:38,120
Speaker 2: they actually do get eighty percent healthy. How dangerous they

2649
02:00:38,160 --> 02:00:41,240
Speaker 2: can potentially be in the playoff situation. I think going

2650
02:00:41,280 --> 02:00:44,000
Speaker 2: on the road at Sofi Stadium is a huge stage

2651
02:00:44,000 --> 02:00:46,160
Speaker 2: for them to show that they are still a legitimate

2652
02:00:46,160 --> 02:00:48,160
Speaker 2: playoff contender, despite the fact that they've been one of

2653
02:00:48,160 --> 02:00:51,080
Speaker 2: the more banged up teams in the entire league pretty

2654
02:00:51,120 --> 02:00:53,360
Speaker 2: much since Week one of the season. So I love

2655
02:00:53,400 --> 02:00:55,880
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay getting seven points against the Rams at so

2656
02:00:55,960 --> 02:00:56,840
Speaker 2: Far on Sunday night.

2657
02:00:57,240 --> 02:00:59,640
Speaker 4: I don't know if I'm chasing here. I might be

2658
02:00:59,680 --> 02:01:03,720
Speaker 4: at this point because Carolina has burned me both times,

2659
02:01:03,760 --> 02:01:06,160
Speaker 4: and I'll take them so far this season. We'll pick

2660
02:01:06,200 --> 02:01:08,400
Speaker 4: the home team, Adam, I can't help myself. They're not

2661
02:01:08,880 --> 02:01:09,680
Speaker 4: they're not at home.

2662
02:01:09,840 --> 02:01:12,480
Speaker 3: Well, your home team, your favorite team, you know what

2663
02:01:12,520 --> 02:01:12,760
Speaker 3: I mean.

2664
02:01:13,720 --> 02:01:18,280
Speaker 4: Look, I told myself earlier in the trap game Tap

2665
02:01:19,000 --> 02:01:21,840
Speaker 4: not to buy in the Panthers are six and five.

2666
02:01:22,280 --> 02:01:24,960
Speaker 4: They're taking on an old rival in the San Francisco

2667
02:01:25,000 --> 02:01:27,920
Speaker 4: forty nine ers from the old NFC West days, and

2668
02:01:27,960 --> 02:01:32,000
Speaker 4: they're getting seven points here Kevin seven points to Bryce

2669
02:01:32,040 --> 02:01:35,360
Speaker 4: Young in my Panthers plus seven. I gotta take them

2670
02:01:35,400 --> 02:01:38,520
Speaker 4: on the road. You have to in SF. It'll give

2671
02:01:38,520 --> 02:01:40,080
Speaker 4: me another reason to watch that ball game.

2672
02:01:40,760 --> 02:01:42,000
Speaker 3: You don't need another reason.

2673
02:01:42,040 --> 02:01:44,560
Speaker 2: You have it, you, Jerylina Panthers or a potential playoff

2674
02:01:44,560 --> 02:01:46,120
Speaker 2: team and they're playing on Monday night football.

2675
02:01:46,120 --> 02:01:46,800
Speaker 3: Come on, all right?

2676
02:01:46,920 --> 02:01:49,680
Speaker 4: Fine in Cleveland plus three and a half on the road.

2677
02:01:49,760 --> 02:01:52,320
Speaker 3: Projecting Il coming up next here on Fox Sports Radio.