1 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: Hi. I'm Laura Vanderkamp. I'm a mother of five, an author, journalist, 2 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: and speaker. 3 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 2: And I'm Sarah Hart Hunger, a mother of three, practicing physician, 4 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: writer and course creator. We are two working parents who 5 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 2: love our careers and our families. 6 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to best of both worlds. Here we talk about 7 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: how real women manage work, family, and time for fun. 8 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: From figuring out childcare to mapping out long term career goals. 9 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: We want you to get the most out of life. 10 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to best of both worlds. This is Laura. This 11 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: episode is airing in mid October of twenty twenty four. 12 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: We are going to be talking some Fall favorites, which 13 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 1: is an episode topic we have done before. But fall 14 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: is a great time and it's a good time to 15 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: revisit some of our favorite things. We're using, products we enjoy, 16 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: shows or technology, and all the things that are making 17 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: life great right now. It's kind of a all love 18 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: of the week episode. If we have time, we plan 19 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: to get to a section on energy management, though if 20 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: we turn out to be a bit more loquacious than planned, 21 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: I guess that we'll have to wait for another week, 22 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: but at least on the docket to discuss energy as 23 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: well today. So, Sarah, are you feeling the fall vibes 24 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: right now? 25 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 2: I mean, weather wise no, but life wise yes, because 26 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: I'm just ready to move on from summer, and therefore 27 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: anything that gives me like a hint of the feeling 28 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 2: of fall, even if it doesn't actually feel like fall, 29 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 2: is making me happy. It also means we're like on 30 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: the way to winter, which is lovely. And so yeah, 31 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 2: I'm like extra fall this year. I think I got 32 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: to respond the episode idea. 33 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't really pulled out my sweaters yet. I 34 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: will wear the fleece at night. The sweaters seems like 35 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: possibly I didn't clean all my sweaters very well when 36 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: I put them in the drawer last year, so I'm 37 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: sort of discovering that now as I was looking through 38 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: them the other day. So that'll be a bit of 39 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: a project maybe coming up. But yeah, you know, it's 40 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: it's nice to have a little chill in the air 41 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: in the morning. 42 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 3: We definitely have. 43 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: I mean, well, when this air is mid October, it's 44 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: gonna be peak fall. We're recording it a little bit 45 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: ahead of time, and we've got a lot of golden 46 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: color everywhere, which I always love to look at so 47 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: beautiful time of year around here, and then of course 48 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: it becomes a lot less beautiful and I want to 49 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: head the Florida So it's fair. Sounds fair? Yeah, yeah. 50 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 2: I used to do this thing when I wore winter 51 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 2: clothing where I would like do a bulk dry cleaner 52 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 2: drop off, like right around now, and then everything was 53 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 2: like fresh for the new season. So maybe your drawers 54 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 2: can just be all dealt with it once. 55 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, No, it's on the list next week. 56 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 3: Make a note to myself. 57 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: I have all these things, these projects, and then I 58 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: kind of forget them if the time isn't right for 59 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: me to write them down. But maybe I'll try to 60 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: remember that one for later. 61 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 4: But yeah, so Fall favorites, we're gonna start with the 62 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 4: personal care and cosmetics category. So, Sarah, what are you 63 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 4: using right now that is sparking a fire in your life? 64 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and by the way, the items we're talking about, 65 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 2: just to clarify, they're not all fall related items because 66 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 2: I'm like, what I'm about to talk to has nothing 67 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 2: to do with fall. It's just of the moment of 68 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 2: right now. So on my list, I just want to 69 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 2: give a shout out and none of these are sponsored 70 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 2: to Toms of Main toothpaste, because I'm an old person 71 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: who cannot deal with the like spicy, artificially sweet taste 72 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: of like Colgate or crust anymore. 73 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 3: Like I cannot. 74 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: There goes potential sponsorships, I guess, but I love like 75 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: the Toms of Main spearmint or peppermint, so enjoying that. 76 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: Other bathroom products that I'm going to give a shout 77 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 2: out to are Li Lavos shower gel in the basil scent, 78 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, so luxurious. 79 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 3: It's so nice. 80 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: Every time I smell it makes me happy. And actual 81 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,839 Speaker 2: shaving cream I put on the list. Now, I haven't 82 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 2: bought shaving cream for many years, but one of my 83 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 2: kids was like, I want shaving cream and I was like, okay, 84 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 2: so I bought it. Then I decided it was sitting there, 85 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: I might as well try it, and like, shaving is 86 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 2: quite nice with actual shaving cream versus just shower gel 87 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 2: or soap, and I will probably buy it again. Who knew? 88 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: Huh. I'm not sure I even use shower gel or soap. 89 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: It just kind of use the razor. Maybe I'm missing 90 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: out on something and just I it's like seems like 91 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: an extra step. 92 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 3: Wait really though, Yeah, do you get like okay? Interesting? 93 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 3: Maybe we have very different skin. 94 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 2: I feel like I would just be covered in red 95 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 2: bumps if I pull that, But maybe you have more 96 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 2: resilient dirm. 97 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 3: That could be. We find out new things all the time. 98 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 1: Well, it's so funny because once shower habits are obviously 99 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: very personal in private, like nobody else is involved in them, 100 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: and so you'd never know you're doing something completely wrong, 101 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: like her, Is there a better way? Have I been 102 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: shampoo my hair in the wrong manner for forty plus 103 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: years now? It is entirely possible, and I will probably 104 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: never find out, And you, dear listener, will never find 105 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: out if you're doing it the wrong way either. 106 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 3: So there we go. 107 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: Well, so I actually need to get some scented shower gel. 108 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: I had lovely grapefruit scented product. 109 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 3: It wasn't. 110 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: One of the upsides of citrus scented products is I 111 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: feel like they could be pretty cheap, but they are okay, 112 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: Like the sweet needs to be like higher end in 113 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: order not to be terrible, but like citrus sense for 114 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: whatever can be done on a cheaper basis and still 115 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 1: be okay. So I had this grapefruit scented shower stuff 116 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,239 Speaker 1: like just from CVS and or no, I guess from Amazon. 117 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: As it turned out, and it was great, and then 118 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: I ran out, and then we had this episode that 119 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: we're recording, and I went onto Amazon and lo and behold. 120 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: I had apparently ordered it on October seventeen, twenty twenty two, 121 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: so I re upped on that. I apparently did not 122 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: need to subscribe on Save on that because I wasn't 123 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: using very much of it. I do want to give 124 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: a shout out to Thrive, who is a sponsor, but 125 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: I have really been enjoying their mascara. I wear it 126 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: every day, and their lipstick crans and eyebrightener, and then 127 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: I use Ilia foundation and concealer and the Ilia multi 128 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 1: stick for cheeks, so a mix of those. And I 129 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: will also do a shout out to wearing makeup every 130 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: single day. I just decided that's what I'm going to 131 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: do in life, and that's what I'm doing. 132 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: I feel like I pretty much do that, except then 133 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 2: I kind of like the rare like not wearing makeup day, 134 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: like it's a break, but it's like an intentional choice, 135 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 2: not a It was like I was just too lazy. 136 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, exactly. 137 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 3: All right, clothing, what are you wearing these days? 138 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: Sarah? 139 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 2: I am super into the wide leg jeans and wide 140 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 2: leg pants. Still I don't actually have that many pairs, 141 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 2: but I feel like this is I'm about to expand 142 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 2: my repertoire as although I just have seen a lot 143 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 2: of cool barrel leg options in different catalogs and makers 144 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 2: like I love made while and Ayr and they both 145 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 2: have these really cute barrel like jeans, so I might 146 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 2: try that as well. Those are just like they're like 147 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 2: really kind of loose, but then they like almost have 148 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 2: like a taper to that anyway, you have to see them. 149 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 2: But yeah, just like in all the wide leg stuff, 150 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 2: and the Alice in Trouser for Marine Layer is on 151 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 2: my short list because they have these really cute and 152 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 2: they're elastic ways, so they're super super comfortable. And then 153 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 2: I will say my other style thing is like I 154 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 2: just wear sneakers to work now because I generally wear 155 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 2: scrubs and I have these on cloud sneakers that were 156 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 2: they actually were bought to be I think hiking shoes 157 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 2: for Annabel when we were in Seattle, but then she 158 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 2: didn't really like them, so and we have the same 159 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 2: shoe size, so I took them over and they make 160 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 2: me like an inch taller and they're so comfortable. So 161 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 2: who knew sneakers could offer that much benefit. 162 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 3: It's like all in one. 163 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: You get your heel and your sneaker in one shoe together. 164 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: That's great. Yeah. So I kind of have my uniform 165 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: that I wore all summer, and I guess we'll wear 166 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: into fall until it's so cold that I can't. 167 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 3: But I wear my Share flats. 168 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: There's sort of a nudish color, but they're Swedes, so 169 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: I can't really wear them if it's raining. But I 170 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: wear those, and I wear my Nick and Zoe cropped 171 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: jeans with a slight frey at the hem. I now 172 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: have four pairs of those in blue and one in cream, 173 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: so I basically can just wear them every day if desired, 174 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: And in the summer I wear a sort of nicer 175 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: tank or sleeveless shirt with them, and then in the 176 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: winter I haven't quite figured out what I'll be wearing 177 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: with them. I guess not into winter but fall. Stay 178 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: tuned on the sweaters. 179 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I've seen some slightly cropped pants kind of 180 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 2: working with boots, so I don't know, you may want 181 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 2: to look into that. Then you can carry them into winter. 182 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess I could carry them into winter. And 183 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 3: I don't know. 184 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: They might look a little funny, but we'll find out. 185 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: You might. I can't picture, but yeah. Anyway, all right, 186 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: let's go to food items, Sarah, seasonal or not. 187 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 2: It is sort of seasonal because actually, okay, so my 188 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 2: first food item is frozen samosas because they kind of 189 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 2: like bridge the line between snack and meal pretty well, 190 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 2: and my kids like them, so they're perfect, Like Annabelle 191 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 2: has gymnastics from like five fifteen to eight forty five, 192 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 2: which is really long, and also like during dinner, so 193 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: they're the perfect thing to grab beforehand because it's like 194 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: substantial enough, but you could scale it up or down 195 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 2: easily because they're like little individual triangles and you can 196 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 2: put them in the toaster oven. And they're sort of 197 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 2: a fall item because Trader Joe's during the fall makes 198 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 2: a pumpkin addition. Those are a little bit spicy, but 199 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 2: they're delicious, the pumpkin samosas from Trader Joe's. And just 200 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 2: I want to say, like it's October This is Trader 201 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 2: Joe's time to shine, in my opinion, because like everything's pumpkin. 202 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 3: A lot of the pumpkin stuff is good. It's super fun. 203 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 3: Random stuff is pumpkins. Some of it's bad. 204 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: It's fun to. 205 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 3: Try it either way. So I love that. And then my. 206 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 2: Perfect fall Starbucks order, which I've discussed on my blog 207 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: a few times, but I don't think I put it 208 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 2: the podcast, an oat milk cappuccino and a warmed pumpkin bread. 209 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: I do not like pumpkin spice lattes, but I figured 210 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 2: out that, like I can get my pumpkin fixed, we 211 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 2: have pumpkin bread and eat it with a non sweet 212 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 2: coffee drink and it's just perfect. 213 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 3: Out of curiosity, why are you doing oat milk? 214 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 1: I like it? Okay, I was like, I got it 215 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: because there's butter in the pumpkin bread. 216 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 3: So I'm not. 217 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm not. 218 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 2: I have no problem with dairy, although I think straight 219 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 2: milk sometimes does a little bit of a number on me. 220 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 3: So one time I was like, oh, let me try 221 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 3: oat milk, and I. 222 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 2: Just really like the taste of it, like it's a 223 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 2: little bit like nutty and almost like a little bit 224 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 2: like has more death or something than the regular. So 225 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 2: that's my order. Grande oat milk cappuccino, lovely. 226 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: I like it. I'm gonna do a shout out for 227 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: rotisserie chickens, which maybe other folks here grew up with 228 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: getting rotisserie chickens from the grocery store, but this is 229 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: never something we did. But it turns out that they 230 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: have these chickens, these rotisserie chickens in most grocery store 231 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: and I've just been getting one on Monday or whatever 232 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: from the store, and then it becomes the basis of 233 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: my lunches through a lot of the week. I just 234 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 1: pull off some chicken, heat it up, have it with 235 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: fruit or you know, if we've got leftover rice or 236 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: whatever from the night before, and yeah, it just is 237 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: tasty and simple and pretty cheap as a lunch basis. 238 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: I can get like two or three lunches out of 239 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: it easy. And then sometimes I use the chicken for 240 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: other things, like we're doing a chicken based pasta sauce 241 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: Monday night that can work as well. Also shout out 242 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: to apples, the fall fruit of choice, although October is 243 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: getting a little bit late for picking it. Although a 244 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: lot of farms will still do their apple picking in October. 245 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: I learned many years ago that my favorite kinds of 246 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: apples actually ripen more in early to mid September. So 247 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: in early to mid September we went to our life 248 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: orchard to go picking it. It was a bit of one 249 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: of these family activities that inspired some whining because it 250 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: was not necessarily how it was supposed to go. Like 251 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: I was hot, the apples were ridiculously overpriced, like what 252 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: we paid for. 253 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 3: Then we wound up with like three pecks of them. 254 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: Anyway, so we've been eating a lot of apples, have 255 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: a lot of apple sauce. But you know, I still 256 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: like apples. Apples are yummy, and apples straight from the 257 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: tree have a certain special something to them. I haven't 258 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 1: had any apples straight from the tree, but I love 259 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: apples with cinnamon on them. That's such a fall flavors. 260 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 261 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: Where apple pie. Yeah, apple pies are great. We tend 262 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: to make one of those each weekends, and now we've 263 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: found enough apples to continue doing that for many a time. 264 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: All right, Well, we're going to take a quick ad 265 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: break and then we'll be back with a few more 266 00:12:49,160 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: of our fall favorites. Well, we are back the first 267 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: part of this episode. We're discussing some of our fall favorites, 268 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: things that we are enjoying right now in our life. 269 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: Not all fall related, though a few have been. There 270 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: was pumpkin bread involved in apples. So, Sarah, household goods, 271 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: you suggested this as a category. I didn't know that 272 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: we were. We had favorite household Goods, but let me 273 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: know what are yours? 274 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 3: I don't know. 275 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 2: Household Goods is what we name one of our budget categories, 276 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 2: and you need a budget, so maybe that's why I came. 277 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 3: Up with it, but one of them. 278 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 2: I don't even feel like I've mastered it yet, but 279 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 2: I'm like, this is my life goal and I'm trying 280 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 2: and I'm improving, which is to always stay one ahead 281 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 2: of the printer cartridges because they always run out, and 282 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 2: they always run out just when you want to print something. 283 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 2: And if you whenever you run out, like immediately order 284 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 2: your next round of them. 285 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 3: I guess you. 286 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 2: Only downside is that if your printer breaks and it's 287 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 2: your last printer cartridge ever and you didn't know that, 288 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 2: then find you have one extra printer cartridge that you've 289 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 2: bought that you don't need, but that doesn't happen all 290 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 2: that often, and so I believe it's staying one the 291 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 2: printer cartridges. Having extra dish towels has also been surprisingly 292 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 2: I don't know. We would like always use them all 293 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 2: up and be like, well now we have to use 294 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 2: paper towels. And then Josh was like, I ordered dish 295 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 2: towels and I'm like, oh right, you can. 296 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 3: You can buy more. 297 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 2: You're really all fancy, and I think he ordered them 298 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 2: from like Creating Bar, Pottery Bar. You could have themed 299 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 2: dish towels for each other, just like minimalists and gray 300 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 2: but they're nice and they like absorb stuff, and you know, 301 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 2: we could get even more dish towels. So having enough 302 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 2: dish towels and then also on the towel train, because 303 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 2: apparently I'm on it. The Uccino Waffle Twist towels and robe. 304 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 2: They're not like super fancy, like they're at Macy's or wherever. 305 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 2: I don't think they have it a met target, but 306 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 2: like any other sort of mid level department store, they 307 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 2: just look so nice like they have a they look 308 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 2: more luxurious than they actually cost, and they drive really quickly, 309 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 2: so if you live in a mildew prone climate as 310 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 2: we do, then they will benefit you in that manner. 311 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: Awesome. Well, I'm not sure if this is a household good. 312 00:14:58,480 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if I would put the which BUDG 313 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: category I would put this in. But I'm really into 314 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: fall flowers these days. So fall flowers has been a 315 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: new discovery for me. I always thought of flowers as 316 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: being a spring thing, and there are obviously a great 317 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: many flowers that bloom in the spring, but there are 318 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: also a reasonable number of flowers that, as their evolutionary strategy, 319 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: have decided to bloom in the fall, and many reasons 320 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: one might do that as a flower. I mean, it's 321 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: maybe different pickings. The pollinators aren't there for the spring flowers. 322 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: You've got more opportunity to shine in the fall or 323 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: something like that. But they're really cool looking, especially against 324 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: the changing trees and vines and stuff like that, because 325 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: it's just the colors of fall are so distinct versus 326 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: like the colors of spring. So in spring you get 327 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: a lot of these pinks and stuff like that, but 328 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: the fall, you know the bright blue asters, for instance, 329 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: and you know lots of zenias and mums and all that. 330 00:15:59,040 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 3: Then you see that again. 331 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: It's the red and orange and yellow of the trees, 332 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: and it's just a sort of otherworldly sort of look. 333 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: And I in fact probably like it better than the 334 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: spring because the spring flowers you only get the mist 335 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: of green behind them. In terms of the trees, right, 336 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: like the generally the flowering trees and stuff come out 337 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: before the leaves. That's their their strategy, so you only 338 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: have the flowers with a tiny mist of green, whereas 339 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: in the fall you've got all the colors of the 340 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: trees and the bright colors of the flowers. So we've 341 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: been decorating with lots of fall flowers around here, and 342 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: makes me happy every time I see them. 343 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 3: I love it. I think it's definitely a household good. 344 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 2: I mean it's like a descoor item, and it's an 345 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 2: experience and I like the seasonality to it. So that's 346 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 2: super cool, excellent all right. Items for tweens and older children. 347 00:16:55,760 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 2: All right, Cameron requested Pasca paint and I was like, 348 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 2: these are annoyingly expensive, and also they have acrylic paint 349 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 2: in them, which means you get them on stuff they're 350 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 2: not coming off. But I order them anyway, and they 351 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 2: have made him so happy, and like the other kids 352 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 2: are using them and they're they're really fun to use. 353 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 2: So basically, I mean, it's like a marker, but what 354 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 2: comes out is basically paint, but there's the tip is 355 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 2: nice and fine, so you can have a lot of control. 356 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 2: So he's been making a lot of like comic book 357 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 2: looking stuff and because it's like paint, it's like very 358 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 2: very opaque, not like a regular marker. 359 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 3: So yeah, super into it. 360 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 2: Oh and you can draw on them like on black 361 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 2: paper too and it would show up as paint, so 362 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 2: super cool. And then crunch Labs, which was a Best 363 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 2: Slide Planned sponsor, but we were using them. That was 364 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 2: one of the ones where like they asked and I 365 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 2: was like yes because I'm already a customer, a very 366 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 2: happy customer, and we use them before and use them since. 367 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 2: But that's Mark Rober's like activity box where you basically 368 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 2: get to like do little mini engineering projects and building 369 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 2: and they're just super popular at our house and generally 370 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 2: I wish they took even longer, like I feel they 371 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 2: take about like an hour, but it's like a fun 372 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 2: hour to hear the progress on that and then see 373 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 2: it when it's complete because they'll make stuff like we 374 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 2: had one that was a ping pong type ball that 375 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 2: was floating in the air, was thrilling everyone. 376 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 1: Exactly. Yeah, we get the crunch slabs box too. That 377 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: Alex is the one who likes doing those, and I 378 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 1: guess I was realized this is so gender stereotypical. Then 379 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: Ruthie and I split the Allure beauty box. That that's something. 380 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: Although split wasn't quite how it happened last month, she 381 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: wanted most of the stuff, so that's good. I mean, 382 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: I can buy my own cosmetics, so I'm happy that 383 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 1: she's fighting stuff she likes in there. I'm going to 384 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: go shout out to baking projects as an activity. So 385 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:48,239 Speaker 1: here about the apple pie. That is certainly something that 386 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 1: kids can probably put together pretty easily, because you know, 387 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: just buy a frozen pie crust and cut up apples, 388 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: mix them with cinnamon and sugar and you're pretty much good. 389 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: Put that in the oven. But especially when older kids 390 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: are doing baking projects, you usually get a good result. 391 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: You don't necessarily have to be doing. 392 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 3: It with them. 393 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 1: So it's like, uh, the baking fairy stopped by this 394 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: is awesome. So I'm a huge fan of that. 395 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 2: Yep, also very fall because there's so many faulty things 396 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 2: you can bake. 397 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 1: How about for younger kids, yes, yes, younger kids. 398 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 2: Well, this year is the first year that every year 399 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 2: there's like a classroom what's up chat for every class 400 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 2: At least it has been like that around here, but 401 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 2: this year they made a separate one for like social 402 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 2: stuff only so that the teachers don't see that one. 403 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 2: You can use it for birthday party invites, playd eight invites, whatever, 404 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 2: and that's been great because parents will just be like, 405 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 2: I'm headed here if anybody wants to come, and it's 406 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 2: just nice to have like an automatic forum for that 407 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 2: kind of thing. I will also add that trips to 408 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 2: the bookstore, just as an activity, can be great for 409 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 2: any age kid, including younger kids that just want to 410 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 2: look at picture books. You just want to get out 411 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 2: of the house and you are encouraging them to read, 412 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 2: so pick one book out. 413 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 3: Great, it could be a fun activity. 414 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 2: And then finally, this one isn't as fun, but if 415 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 2: you have younger kids that are needing to learn like 416 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 2: the basic edition facts and stuff, we like the program 417 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 2: reflex Math. We've now had all three of our kids 418 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 2: use it in some fashion and it seems to work. 419 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 2: Is it the most fun thing ever for them? 420 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: No? 421 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 2: But it's not like torture either, so all to win. 422 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 1: So mine's going to be slightly fall themed in the 423 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: sense that Lemony Snicket books, but not the series of 424 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: unfortunate events that's a that's kind of for older kids. 425 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: But he has written a lot of picture books as well, 426 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 1: and they all have slightly of a spooky theme to them. 427 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 1: I find they've got this kind of fall vibe to them, 428 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: even if they aren't necessarily foolish. We've for years owned 429 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 1: a copy of the Dark, which is about how Laslow 430 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: is afraid of the dark, and then the Dark comes 431 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: to visit Laslow in Laslow's room, and the whole thing 432 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 1: is sort of spooky sounding, like you are not you know, 433 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: you may be afraid of the dark, but the dark 434 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: is not afraid of you. And it goes on from there. 435 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: There's also he wrote one sets we've been reading with 436 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: Henry called The Stick and the Bad Mood, and it's 437 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: how a stick gets used in multiple ways and a 438 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 1: bad mood gets passed around from various different characters. If 439 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: you read it, don't send me hate mail. There's slightly. 440 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: There's a little inappropriate part in it, but Henry doesn't 441 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: understand that that is, so we will just decide that 442 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: Lemony Snicket put that in for whatever reason. But there's 443 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: other ones, like there's about the Ghostfish. There's one about 444 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 1: a swarm of bees that we've been reading, you know, 445 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: so those are all kind of fun. I'm always on 446 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: the look out for picture books that can be read 447 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: more than once, like that the kid isn't bored with them, 448 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: or they're not too preachy, and he's definitely not preachy 449 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 1: all so that's a win. And I will also do 450 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 1: a shout out for the picture book Fletcher and the 451 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: Falling Leaves. Now, Fletcher is a whole series of books 452 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 1: that are seasonally appropriate, like there's Fletcher in the Snowflake 453 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: Christmas or something, There's Fletcher and the Springtime Blossoms. But 454 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: we have found that Fletcher and the Falling Leaves is 455 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: the best one, and that is very fall themed, so 456 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 1: you might want to check that out. 457 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 3: Awesome, I'm gonna have to request that one. We love 458 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 3: the dark. 459 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 2: I don't think I've read the other Lemony Snickets, but 460 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 2: it's funny you said read more than once, because I 461 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 2: don't know, Like we seem to have a lot of books, 462 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 2: and I know all of them, like so clearly we 463 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 2: read pretty much all of them more than ones, whether 464 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 2: or not they deserve that or not. It's just seems 465 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 2: to happen, probably because I feel like my kids have 466 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 2: always been like not satisfied with just one book at bedtime. 467 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 2: And there's a lot of nights in a year, so 468 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 2: that's easily like a thousand books a year. And I 469 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 2: don't we have a lot of books, but not a 470 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 2: thousand books, so lots of repeats in except when we 471 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 2: go to the library, which should have also been on 472 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 2: this list because the library is awesome. 473 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, we've been getting piles of books from 474 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,719 Speaker 1: the library lately. To add it in, we'll do one 475 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: more before the break. Sarah, what's a work related thing 476 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: that you are loving? 477 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 2: Hi? Yes, well, it's sort of a not work related thing, 478 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 2: which is that I have a PTO spreadsheet that works 479 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 2: really well now automatically, like it calculates the number of 480 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 2: days I accrue and then if I use a day, 481 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 2: I will put it in there. I got that from 482 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 2: my friend K of Grateful k fame, and I think 483 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 2: I talked about an unvestlaid plans already, so this may 484 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 2: not be news to some of you, but it was 485 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 2: easy to set up, and it just like it's a 486 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 2: great way to see your time off as like a 487 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 2: bank type of a thing, and you can make adjustments 488 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 2: and see how like taking a shorter winter break would 489 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 2: give you more days in the spring or whatever. So 490 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 2: you'd have to configure that for however, your workplace gives 491 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 2: you paid time off if you do have a specific 492 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 2: number of days off, but kind of into it. 493 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, Vanderkamming has a generous PTO policy, although it's 494 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: not really PTO. If I don't work, I'm not earning 495 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: money necessarily, so it's unpaid too unpaid PTO, Yeah, exactly. 496 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: But I will say with that, the freedom to try 497 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: new things is a big upside an employee perk over 498 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 1: here at vandercam Inc. Because, Yeah, I've just started a 499 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: couple new things. I launched an interview series at my 500 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: other podcast before Breakfast. I've had Sarah on as a guest, 501 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: and that was really fun to be able to just 502 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: try something new in a podcast. I've been doing the 503 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: same way for five and a half years. I also 504 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: just started adding one video post a week over at Vanderhacks, 505 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 1: which is my substack newsletter. I was just playing around 506 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 1: on there and I was like, wait, there's this video 507 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: post function and it records right like in the thing, 508 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, well let's try it out and 509 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: see what this does. So I'm going to start doing 510 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: one of those a week. So yeah, freedom to try 511 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: new stuff. Big upside of self employment. Paid vacation time 512 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: not so much. All right, We're going to take one 513 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: more quick ad break and we will be back. 514 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 3: Well, we are back. 515 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: We've been doing our fall favorites of various different categories. 516 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 1: We're going to go to throw one more in before 517 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: we switch the subject. I guess my ad break was 518 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: slightly mistimed as it turned out. So, Sarah Media, what 519 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: are you liking right now? Super late to this party. 520 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 2: But if you're looking for a show that is not 521 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 2: using too much brain power and has a lot of 522 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 2: eye candy, then you might want to check out Emily 523 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 2: in Paris. They just released the second half of the 524 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 2: fourth season, and each season only has ten episodes, so 525 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 2: it's not like a million episodes. But I've been going 526 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 2: through some stressful stuff. Hopefully by the time this episode 527 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 2: airs it's going to all be great. But this has 528 00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 2: been such a wonderful balm for me, and it's just 529 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 2: so bingeable and on a cozy weekend when your kids 530 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 2: are playing video games, propping up in bed and enjoying 531 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 2: a few episodes of this has been so much fun. 532 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 3: So highly recommend awesome. 533 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't been watching much TV lately, so don't 534 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: really have anything to contribute there, but that's fine. I'm 535 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 1: sure there's a lot of great shows out there. People 536 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 1: can let me know what they are and maybe I'll 537 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: watch them at some point. Our next part, we wanted 538 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about energy management, which was 539 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: inspired by a great question that we got over at 540 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 1: our Patreon community. If you are listening to this and 541 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 1: are wondering you haven't heard us talk about it, you 542 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: probably have ad nausea. But we have an excellent Patreon 543 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: community where if you are interested in discussing more about 544 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: issues of work and life and parenting and career advice 545 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: and how to combine all these things, we have a 546 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: very very helpful forum where people share all kinds of things. 547 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: We often have long discussion threads. I mean We've gotten 548 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: like eighty comments on posts talking about things, so please 549 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: consider joining us there. But anyway, we had a question 550 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: posted to us there from a community member who said, 551 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: I see both of you, and she's talking to Sarah 552 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: and me here. Are pretty physically active, have multiple kids, 553 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: demanding job, podcasts and other responsibilities, and I never see 554 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: you complain about a lack of energy. The other day 555 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: I did strength training and my body was sore. My 556 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: energy was low for the next couple of days. My 557 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: husband is traveling and I am exhausted doing solo parenting 558 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: with one toddler who goes to daycare eight to nine 559 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: hours a day. What hacks do you have in your life, 560 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: starting from sleep or caffeine or supplements or protein or 561 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 1: mental health or anything else that helps you to have 562 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: the energy to have a full life. So, Sarah, I mean, 563 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: clearly we're both one hundred percent bubbly all the time, right. 564 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 3: Absolutely, No, I was just thinking about how like, what 565 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 3: of a miss misinterpretation of the situation here. 566 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 2: Anyone who follows me on Strava knows there are days 567 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 2: that I'm like, well, that felt like garbage, So not. 568 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 3: Feeling amazing all the time. 569 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 2: I do think at this phase in my life, I 570 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 2: have a good amount of energy. I'm not sure that 571 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 2: was totally true during the toddler phase, and I definitely 572 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 2: don't think it was true when I was like pumping 573 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 2: and had a toddler, because I just want to say, like, 574 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 2: you are in a phase of life that can. 575 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 3: Feel super super hard. 576 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 2: Like it's that physical parenting, that following your kid around, 577 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 2: parenting that like, oh my god, if I don't you know, 578 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 2: watch you every second, you are going to hurt yourself 579 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 2: or eat something poisonous or like god knows what, Like 580 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 2: that is so so hard and so for you to 581 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 2: be tired. I just want to validate that just might 582 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 2: be normal and expected and there is a reason. I mean, listen, 583 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 2: more power to you if you run marathons when you 584 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 2: have little kids. But like, there's a reason I'm doing 585 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 2: it now, and I didn't do it when my kids 586 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 2: were like one and three. And I mean, I could 587 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 2: have made that choice, but I really, honestly at the 588 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 2: time didn't have the energy for it. So I think 589 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 2: that you are also looking at us in like a 590 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 2: slightly different phase than you are in right now, so 591 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 2: the comparison might be hard. I also want to say, 592 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 2: like from an exercise standpoint, there is a degree of 593 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 2: getting used to things. So I'm going to fast forward, 594 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 2: like two years ago is when I started running like 595 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 2: a lot more seriously, and I remember I would do 596 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 2: like an eight mile run and be like, oh, I 597 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 2: am wiped, I'm done, like. 598 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 3: The rest of the day like wow, I have a headache. 599 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 2: And now I do that length run like almost every day, 600 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 2: like that is like an average, Like I did it 601 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 2: today and I feel completely fine because my body has 602 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 2: completely adjusted to that. On the corollary, I have sucked 603 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 2: at strength training recently, and when I did lift waste 604 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 2: last week, I was super sore and dragging for a 605 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 2: couple days after. So there may be something too. Okay, 606 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 2: you just started a new workout. It won't always feel 607 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 2: as hard as it feels right now. Of course, you 608 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 2: could always keep escalating it, but you. 609 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:50,479 Speaker 3: Also don't have to. 610 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 2: You could get to the point where you could do 611 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 2: your thirty minute strength workout, pick a level of weights 612 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 2: that keeps you at a maintenance level of strength, and 613 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 2: just like stick with that, like you don't always have 614 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 2: to be leveling up. And then my last as a 615 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 2: physician part is like make sure you do get checked 616 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 2: for medical causes of fatigue, because there are many. They 617 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 2: might find nothing and that's okay, but it's worth looking for. Like, 618 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 2: do you have anemia that can make you tired and 619 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 2: is not that uncommon after pregnancy and all that stuff. 620 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 2: Get your thyroid checked. Check for vitamin B twelve can 621 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 2: cause indirectly anemia and can cause fatigue. Not super common, 622 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 2: but you could be be twelve deficient, but just making 623 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 2: sure to check those basics. I feel like anemia is 624 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 2: like the unsung like it's just so common and it's 625 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 2: pretty fixable. I mean, iron efficiency can be fixable, So 626 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 2: just looking for that kind of stuff could be a 627 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 2: good idea. 628 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of women who recently had children or 629 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: breastfeeding others may have medical issues that are increasing fatigue, 630 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: aside from the fact that you are taking care of 631 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: a toddler, which is not known for boosting anyone's energy levels. 632 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, just to I mean total recognition that parenting 633 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: a toddler is exhausting and doing it on your own 634 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: as you were during the week when this letter came 635 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: in is doubly exhausting. So just shout out recognize what 636 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: you are going through. I am certainly not constantly bubbly 637 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: at all. I think Sarah and I if we come 638 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: across that way, it's because we're on high energy mode 639 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: when we are recording, because this is going out into 640 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: the universe. But if you saw us on an average moment, 641 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: that might not necessarily be the case. But to whatever degree, 642 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: I've seen people manage their energy, I mean a few things. 643 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: Figuring out how much sleep you need and doing what 644 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: you can to prioritize that is so important. And I 645 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: understand it is very, very hard with a toddler because 646 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: they might be waking up overnight, or they might be 647 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: waking up at unpredictable times in the morning, or you 648 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: might be having bedtime battles at night. So usually what 649 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: this winds up looking like is going to bed earlier 650 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: then you might have chosen to do otherwise. And it's 651 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:00,959 Speaker 1: hard because again that it's your me time, right if 652 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: you're solo parenting a toddler, your me time is after 653 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: your toddler goes to bed, So you might not want 654 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: to go to bed because you want to get more 655 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: of your mea time. But I believe you can have 656 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: your mee time and your sleep, So make sure you 657 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: are going to bed at the number of hours at 658 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: least of sleep you need before the average time when 659 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: your toddler is getting up in the morning, so that 660 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: you have an adequate amount of sleep. Make sure you 661 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: are getting space for the me time. My guest here 662 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: is that because you've been solo parenting and you're working, 663 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: you have the mindset like, well, oh, my kids in 664 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: daycare all day, I can't take time away from my 665 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: toddler because I'm working all day. But if your husband 666 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: is traveling a lot, like the default here is that 667 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: you guys would be doing fifty to fifty in the evening. 668 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: And if he is not there and you have help, 669 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: the help is outsourcing him. It is not outsourcing you. 670 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: You're there, right, So get a setter one night a week. 671 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,959 Speaker 1: Do something that is fun for you. Sounds like strength. 672 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: May not be that, but you know it could be 673 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: something else. Sake, you go meet up with a couple 674 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: of friends who either also have a sitter or kids 675 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: who don't have kids, I mean friends who don't have kids. 676 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: It could be that you go to a bookstore and 677 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,719 Speaker 1: hang out. It could be that you go to a concert, 678 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: you go to a museum, with evening hours, you join 679 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: a choir. I don't know what you do, but like, 680 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: do something that is for you on that night, and 681 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: I think that you'll find that that will give you 682 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: more energy for the rest of life when you have 683 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: that space for your own stuff, because we draw energy 684 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: from meaningful things. 685 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 3: I like that one the best. 686 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 2: Find stuff that's fun for you, and remember that this 687 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 2: is a season that you will eventually come out of 688 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 2: and they'll be things you miss and then they'll be 689 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 2: things that you're happy about. Like maybe you have a 690 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 2: little bit more energy. Yeah, exactly. 691 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: So we thought we'd throw in one more bonus question, 692 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: because why not. So this one came in from somebody 693 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: who had been reading my books and had read the 694 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: story which I've told great many times. If you ever 695 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: watched my Ted talk, it's kind of one of the 696 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: centerpieces of it of a lady whose basement flooded, And 697 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: of course the gist of the story is that she 698 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,280 Speaker 1: wound up spending seven hours dealing with this flooded basement 699 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: over the course of her week. 700 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 3: But if we'd sort of decided. 701 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: At the beginning of the week, like, oh, can you 702 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 1: find seven hours for anything else? Basically in her life. 703 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: I don't know, training for a marathon like Sarah's doing. 704 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 1: I think most of us would have had a hard 705 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: time to find seven hours. But when she had to 706 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 1: find seven hours because there's water all over her basement, 707 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 1: she found seven hours. But anyway, this listener writes in 708 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: and said that story made me wonder what are the 709 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: most common big derailers of mom's time, Like the things 710 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: that are going to suddenly consume seven hours of your week? 711 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 1: Do you have any tips to better prepare for that 712 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: kind of thing? So, Sarah, what's your thought? Oh, this 713 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: is interesting time disappearing. 714 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 2: I feel like I read this question differently, but that okay, 715 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 2: now it makes a lot more sense to me. I mean, 716 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,240 Speaker 2: for me, the most common is a kid being sick, 717 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 2: which has become somewhat less derailing as a ca are 718 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 2: a bit older, because being sick does that mean I 719 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 2: have to completely be one on one with them? But 720 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 2: a kid being sick is the biggest one, and I 721 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 2: feel like having a plan for that, whether it's discussing 722 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 2: with your partner, like you know how you're going to 723 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,280 Speaker 2: take turns if that is needed, versus in your childcare 724 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 2: provider whether they're comfortable helping out with that when they 725 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 2: can't that kind of a thing, So that that's probably 726 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,280 Speaker 2: the number one. But then also that interruption of yourself 727 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 2: that tends to happen or you get sucked into some 728 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 2: drama online and then all of a sudden, that's where 729 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 2: your brain is for the rest of the day. So 730 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 2: I think we have to be careful not to derail 731 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 2: ourselves with that kind of distraction as well. 732 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I life does happen. I mean the 733 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: morning that we're recording this, I was dealing with buses 734 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: coming late and all that that necessitated that change the 735 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 1: morning routine. And then work starts later then we meant 736 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 1: it to start, and all those things like that. But 737 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: I think one thing that we can have the power 738 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,320 Speaker 1: to stop a little bit more easily is running around 739 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: doing one task after another, like so filling any time 740 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 1: that isn't already spoken for. Like obviously, if you have 741 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 1: a reservation to go on a balloon ride at four o'clock, 742 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna go on your balloon ride at four o'clock. 743 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 1: But let's say you are just around the house on 744 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: a Saturday at four o'clock, what are you doing? I 745 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: think if you observe. What many moms are doing is 746 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: they are running around sort of inefficiently doing one task 747 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: after another. Like you see a sock on the floor, 748 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: so you pick it up and go put it upstairs. 749 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: But as you're putting it away, you see that there's 750 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: a cup upstairs that needs to go down to the dishwasher, 751 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 1: and you bring it down, but then there's a pot 752 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: in the sink, and you're like. 753 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 3: Why is there a pot in the sink? I guess 754 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 3: I'll just wash it. 755 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 1: And as you push away, you realize you are out 756 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 1: of paper towels, and like, okay, well let's go see 757 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 1: let's go find the paper towels, and then you're there. 758 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: You like, you know, all sorts of time can disappear 759 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,760 Speaker 1: into this, and you're not even really efficiently doing housework. 760 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:43,800 Speaker 3: It's not like you said, okay. 761 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: I need to clean the house for two hours. Like 762 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,760 Speaker 1: you're just running around doing like one thing after another. 763 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: So I think to decide just to not do that, 764 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: Like you can choose a time where you're gonna run 765 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,240 Speaker 1: around and reset the house if you want, like say, okay, 766 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,320 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes after dinner tonight, we're all going to go 767 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 1: around and reset the house or whatever it is, but 768 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: just decide, like to actively say, this is a time 769 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: I'm relaxing, Like if it is possible in your life, 770 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,840 Speaker 1: like you're not chasing a eighteen month old child around, 771 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: but if you are four o'clock on a Saturday afternoon 772 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: and you're home and there's nothing you have to be doing, 773 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: just to say, Okay, I'm going to relax for now. 774 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 1: Now is my time that I'm reading a magazine, or 775 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 1: now is the time that I am going to sit 776 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 1: on my camera, or now is the time that I'm 777 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 1: going to do some project. But make sure that you 778 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 1: are doing something intentionally instead of just filling times with 779 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,359 Speaker 1: random tasks that maybe could be done but probably didn't 780 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 1: actually have to be done right that minute. 781 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,800 Speaker 2: That's why I put stuff like watch Emily in Paris 782 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 2: in my planner on a Sunday. It's like, I sign myself, 783 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 2: I have to do this now. But ye, reactive versus 784 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,879 Speaker 2: proactive housekeeping. I was kind of hearing in there, which 785 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 2: is interesting, but uh, yeah, block off that time, just 786 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,959 Speaker 2: take it, knock off the time and take it well. 787 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 2: So this has been kind of an all love of 788 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,439 Speaker 2: the week episode, right, So yeah, I guess we don't 789 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 2: need more Loves of the week. 790 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 1: We don't need more loves of the week and this 791 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 1: you've had plenty. But we will be back next week 792 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: with more on making work and life fit together. 793 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening. You can find me Sarah at the 794 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 2: shoebox dot com or at the Underscore Shoebox on Instagram, 795 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 2: and you. 796 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: Can find me Laura at Laura vandercam dot com. This 797 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: has been the best of both worlds podcasts. Please join 798 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,320 Speaker 1: us next time for more on making work and life 799 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: work together.