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Speaker 1: It already happened late last night early into this morning.

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Speaker 1: Uh no, not that, not that news. Not not don't

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Speaker 1: waking up this morning, I don't take medicine. You won't

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Speaker 1: take no medicine. The New York Football Giants have hired

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Speaker 1: their head coach. The New York Football Then they didn't know.

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Speaker 1: They didn't go ebra flues.

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Speaker 1: They didn't go They didn't go in house either. They

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: They went and got themselves a very well established coach,

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Speaker 1: someone who has who who is a known of building

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: They went and hired John John Harball. John Gym's in

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Speaker 1: Jim's in Hi. Yeah, so the Cowboys, excuse me, the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys will now have to face the gym. The John

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Speaker 1: Harball led New York Football Giants twice a year. Is

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Speaker 1: that is that move the needle any for you? For

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Speaker 1: you guys about now the New York Football Giants, which

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Speaker 1: what we used to count. We come in here, do

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Speaker 1: the schedule. We usually say Giants twice a year. We're good.

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Speaker 1: Dak owns them, we're good. Count them as two wins.

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Speaker 1: That's already on the schedule.

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Speaker 5: Unless it's the last game of the year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the last game the year. You know,

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Speaker 1: the game that we said that we wanted to win.

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Speaker 5: Work.

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Speaker 1: But normally we say the Giants two wins a year.

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Speaker 1: We can argue back and forth about Philadelia, about Washington,

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Speaker 1: and we usually split against Philadelphia. Does the hiring of

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Speaker 1: John Harball change the outlook on how you see you

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 6: I think he will be an improvement. But do they

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Speaker 6: have the players yet to really make a big difference.

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Speaker 1: They have a quarterback, right, they have a quarterbacks Jackson.

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Speaker 6: They're ending in the right direction.

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Speaker 1: Malik Davis if he comes back from this a cl

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't put scatter Boo in that conversation,

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Speaker 1: but uh, defensively, you got a dual carter. You'll have uh,

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Speaker 6: I think there it's a step in the right direction

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Speaker 1: Okay for sure?

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Speaker 7: All right, yeah, Nate, this is every coach's dream to

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Speaker 7: have a dominant entity within where you going to a

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Speaker 7: an up and coming quarterback.

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Speaker 7: Hardball like, okay, where do we sign? This is how

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Speaker 7: much I need? Give me total control. And I worked

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Speaker 7: this here. When I heard this this morning, I'm still

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Speaker 5: Is this something they did under the table?

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Speaker 7: The Ravens said, hey, man, we're finna Let this cat

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Speaker 5: We're finna Let some come on. Fellas. They automatically go

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Speaker 7: Just yes, top of the NFC East. Because he's gonna

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Speaker 7: a hard ball trade. Is we come in and they

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Speaker 7: is how we're gonna do it. We're gonna play sound

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Speaker 7: just from football. We're gonna run. We're gonna have a

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Speaker 7: We're gonna tell him, hey, bro, every time you run,

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Speaker 5: We're gonna teach you how to throw the ball more.

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Speaker 7: Now he knows how to throw the ball, but that

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Speaker 7: not take off and run and kill yourself.

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Speaker 5: That's what we got. The other dude, we're gonna come

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Speaker 7: So he's gonna stop to run. He's gonna run the ball.

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Speaker 7: He's gonna have a discipline team. They automatically go to

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Speaker 7: the top of the NFC East for.

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Speaker 5: Who they are.

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Speaker 1: John Harball, the head coach of Dallas Cowboys, barn Shotenhaimer,

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Speaker 1: the head coach of the Washington Commanders, Dan Quinn, and

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Speaker 5: That pressure on. You don't even rank the Cowboy coach

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Speaker 6: The other three.

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Speaker 5: Hardball, the guy in Philadelphia and the guy in.

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Speaker 6: I mean, son, he's had them playoffs, super Bowl.

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Speaker 7: It's staying. Then changed just like that. This ain't done changed,

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Speaker 7: Run run Do I need to finish the city? Run

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Speaker 5: Bron Come on now, coach.

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Speaker 7: The coach in Philadelphia sitting up right now with the

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Speaker 7: that's what the Eagles are starting to be. They they

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Speaker 5: Just fall apart, saying, oh yeah, the quarterback don't want

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Speaker 5: He won't run. He won't You know, you got to

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Speaker 7: This the Jayalen hurts that we saw with the Saquon

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Speaker 7: what you said, Jess, I don't know if it was

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Speaker 5: Come on now, and we need too much. We need

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Speaker 5: too much as a team to rank us. Excuse me

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Speaker 7: And I as much as I love d q Q,

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Speaker 7: game over, that's too simple.

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Speaker 6: So that they won four games this year, do you

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Speaker 5: They'll have three more games, So they'll won three more games.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, just because just because his defense would have

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Speaker 7: would have catered to that. See, when you have a

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Speaker 5: Can cater to that.

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Speaker 7: There's too many things you can do to cater to

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Speaker 5: That just slanging the ball all around with.

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Speaker 7: No with no, with no regards for your defense.

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Speaker 5: That that wouldn't that wouldn't happen with him. Uh. Now

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Speaker 5: they can shock me. They can. They can go there

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Speaker 7: Well, we're gonna do this totally different than what where

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Speaker 7: we normally do it with the hobballs. But have you

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Speaker 1: You've got a great point.

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Speaker 5: We we we talk about culture.

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Speaker 7: They they hadn't done nothing with the Chargers, and all

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Speaker 5: The last year too. They didn't make it. Uh didn't.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they barely missed, but they may And they made

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Speaker 7: I'm just saying, the hardball, man, if you let them

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Speaker 1: So now that gym, now that John Harball is the

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Speaker 1: of go, well, the Eagles have been the people in

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Speaker 5: Yes, sir, I agree one hundred percent. Don't nothing change.

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Speaker 7: Don't you start with free you start with free agency.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're an aggressive approaches. So I do I do

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 1: You can't put this one on me because that ain't

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Speaker 7: No, no, no, no, no, Jesse, I want to say

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Speaker 5: That the statement you just made, We've had.

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Speaker 1: As the Cowboys are still searching for their defensive coordinator,

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Speaker 5: My thoughts is hire one of them and let's go

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Speaker 7: Okay, I'm for real, bro, I'm not gonna have nothing

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Speaker 5: Real sweet and he's sweet just as sweet. Man. I'm

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Speaker 5: It's we The day they signed Howard boy was we

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Speaker 7: And every day that he's in that house in New York,

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Speaker 7: Let's get us identity.

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Speaker 1: the only question that I have or not question or

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Speaker 1: but statement. And I think communication is necessary. Right we

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Speaker 1: all agree that's unnecessary.

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Speaker 6: Problem this year?

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Speaker 1: Right, I think teaching is. But I'm big on development.

444
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Speaker 1: M Can the guys that you're talking about have they

445
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Speaker 1: have they been around long enough? Do they have enough

446
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Speaker 1: skins on the wall? Does the Jim Leonards? Does the Gannons?

447
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Speaker 1: Does the the dere Jones? Does the u Zach Zach

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Speaker 1: or excuse me, I forgot Zach orr Uh is in

449
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Speaker 1: the compason those guys as well? Does these do these

450
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Speaker 1: guys have a history of development?

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Speaker 10: Because that's gonna be key. We we we we watch

452
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Speaker 10: these other teams in this league perform and some have

453
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Speaker 10: some of the star studied players on there, some do not,

454
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Speaker 10: Some have them, then lose them and don't miss a beat.

455
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Speaker 10: We've been so top heavy for so long. Are you

456
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Speaker 10: going to be able to come in here and find

457
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Speaker 10: and developed another linebacker. Yeah, go out and get one

458
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Speaker 10: in free agency, Sure, go and draft one, but let's

459
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Speaker 10: go get some depth pieces. Can you turn Marris lea

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Speaker 10: File into a player?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 1: Can you turn Shamar James into a player? Can you

463
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Speaker 1: turn you know said backup defensive lineman into a good

464
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Speaker 1: rotational piece. Can you take this safety and make him

465
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Speaker 1: develop him into a good rotational piece. We don't need

466
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Speaker 1: stars at every position. I think that's unrealistic. But the

467
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Speaker 1: development has been down, I would say in the in

468
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Speaker 1: the in the last couple of years.

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Speaker 5: Last six years with the.

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Speaker 1: Cowboys, especially defensively, right, like, that part has taken a

471
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Speaker 1: major hit. So if you lose an overshown to an injury,

472
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Speaker 1: can the next guy come in and I'm not saying

473
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Speaker 1: be a superstar, but do the job? And that has

474
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Speaker 1: been that has been an issue that the guys that

475
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Speaker 1: have to come in, hell, the starters have been able

476
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Speaker 1: to do the job, and then the guys behind that

477
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Speaker 1: hasn't been able to do the job. But that hasn't

478
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Speaker 1: been a level of development. So that is one of

479
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Speaker 1: the things that I will be looking for whenever they

480
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Speaker 1: make it higher. Whoever the higher is is said defensive coordinator,

481
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Speaker 1: a developer.

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Speaker 6: Of talents as players. When you see who's maybe coming

483
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Speaker 6: in or are you hoping for a guy who's the

484
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Speaker 6: krusty veteran who's been around the league and knows saw

485
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Speaker 6: the ins and outs, or the fact that a younger

486
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Speaker 6: guy who's maybe taken that first step up and maybe

487
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Speaker 6: comes with new ideas what as the players would intrigue

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Speaker 6: you more?

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Speaker 7: I guess for me, I know the question you ask,

490
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Speaker 7: But for me, I want to coach that's gonna give

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Speaker 7: me a legit chance. You know, if I'm learning this

492
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Speaker 7: and I'm doing what you ask me to do it,

493
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Speaker 7: I'm and I'm in the right place. Are you gonna

494
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Speaker 7: Are you gonna give me that opportunity? Are due to

495
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Speaker 7: financial reasons? Are who you like?

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Speaker 1: The politics?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? The politician is gonna keep me. You know.

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Speaker 7: But if you every one of these dudes gonna be

499
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Speaker 7: whoever you hire and that coach stand up and say hey,

500
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Speaker 7: you got to earn the right to play, they gonna

501
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Speaker 7: believe you until that first couple of weeks after it

502
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Speaker 7: gets drunk up good and they ain't getting no res Okay,

503
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Speaker 7: same old thing, so that that that that's the guy

504
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Speaker 7: you need.

505
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Speaker 5: That's the guy.

506
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Speaker 7: And that's that's my big issue is whoever you hire,

507
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Speaker 7: get him in here so he can look at these

508
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Speaker 7: players and now you can start making some the right observations.

509
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 7: You can start breaking these guys down to who they are.

510
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 7: And we say, uh, do he developed? But do these

511
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Speaker 7: can a player learn? I mean, some guys don't want

512
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Speaker 7: to change, you know, do you want to change?

513
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Speaker 5: You know?

514
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Speaker 1: And those are guys that should be gone right right,

515
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Speaker 1: those are the guys who who at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, when you go hey, Because any time that

517
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Speaker 1: there is a this is in life, this is in business,

518
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Speaker 1: this in sports. Whenever there is a when someone comes

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Speaker 1: in and buys a company, right, they initially come in

520
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Speaker 1: and they fire a lot of people because it becomes

521
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Speaker 1: so difficult to put your stamp on something with people

522
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Speaker 1: who've been here for a while, because they're setting their ways,

523
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Speaker 1: they kind of like they figure some things out about

524
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Speaker 1: the NFL life and now they're like, man, this is

525
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Speaker 1: and what I do? What you mean, what you mean

526
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Speaker 1: you want to meet what not? We ain't do that.

527
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Speaker 1: I ain't even the last three years. What you mean

528
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Speaker 1: you want what you mean you required me to do

529
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Speaker 1: what the tests? I ain't doing no tests? Well you

530
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying before the game, I ain't doing

531
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Speaker 1: no Well, you require that, and so sometimes you gotta

532
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Speaker 1: you gotta, you gotta shed some of that some of

533
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Speaker 1: that weight in order to bring in that new level

534
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Speaker 1: of energy. That's the part. And whoever this coach that

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Speaker 1: comes in the good thing is is by sheer. Contract Wise,

536
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Speaker 1: a lot of these guys are just going just doing

537
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Speaker 1: They just there were one year deals, so some of it,

538
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Speaker 1: some of it is already gone, you know what I mean,

539
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Speaker 1: Like it's it's you don't have to even make a

540
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Speaker 1: tough decision on whether or not that person needs to

541
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Speaker 1: be here because contractually you aren't here. You just already

542
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Speaker 1: you're just no longer a financial priority to this football team.

543
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Speaker 1: So that that does open up the window to being

544
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Speaker 1: able to come in and go all right, here my

545
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Speaker 1: here are my foundational pieces. Here are my staples. I

546
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Speaker 1: got over Shown, I got Osa, I got Clark, I

547
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Speaker 1: got Quinnin, I got Azaraka.

548
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Speaker 6: So so do you take those guys just just Schottenheimer

549
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Speaker 6: and maybe it's Will and in who all do you say, Okay,

550
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Speaker 6: this is the type of defense we want to play.

551
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Speaker 6: These guys fit into this type of scheme. We're gonna

552
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Speaker 6: find a coordinator that can fit into that. Or do

553
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Speaker 6: you go, here's let's go get a coordinator and he

554
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Speaker 6: can figure it out.

555
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Speaker 1: I think it's the ladder. Really, I think it's the ladder.

556
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Speaker 1: But I think in that interview you do ask the question, well,

557
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Speaker 1: here are fundamental pieces. Tell me how they fit in

558
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: your scheme, right, Like, tell me how they fit in

559
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Speaker 1: the program that you want to run. Because if it's

560
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Speaker 1: if you give me five names and I go, then

561
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Speaker 1: I can only really use three of these guys, coach,

562
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Then now you have to

563
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Speaker 1: make another decision. Are the two guys that he can't

564
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Speaker 1: fit in his system just unfittable or do we have

565
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Speaker 1: to look at ourselves and go okay, because I like

566
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: what you're saying and I like that approach, then those

567
00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: other two guys are expendable, right.

568
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Speaker 6: I just wondered from a rebuilding standpoint, like if a

569
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 6: guy comes in, if you hire a guy, he's like,

570
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Speaker 6: I need three guys and the rest of stink. That's

571
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Speaker 6: a lot more players you have to you know, build

572
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Speaker 6: around your roster and all.

573
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Speaker 5: That the.

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Speaker 7: You know, just to keep it real year for me.

575
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 7: This is just to keep it real year for me.

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Speaker 7: After about four guys, I mean, coach can't be actually

577
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Speaker 7: four guys. It's four guys. Everybody else, Hey, man, get

578
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 7: in line. We were bad last year. We were terrible

579
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Speaker 7: as a defense. Whatever the reason it was, we were terrible.

580
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Speaker 7: So when you get a new coach and we still

581
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Speaker 7: uh and we're talking about more than three guys fellas

582
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 7: Jesse named them earlier, and it ain't grew list.

583
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Speaker 5: Just ain't groove a second.

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Speaker 7: You know, every coach now nowadays that's a defensive coordinator

585
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Speaker 7: better know how to play. It's no such thing as

586
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Speaker 7: a four to three coach. No more, there's no such

587
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 7: thing as a three four coach. You better know how

588
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 7: to play this new highbrid system that these offenses putting

589
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Speaker 7: out there, whether it's three tight ends, whether it's an

590
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Speaker 7: extra offensive lineman, whether it's a naked backfield, you better

591
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Speaker 7: have a package on the game plan for this new

592
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 7: NFL is Wow, man, you don't know what you're gonna get.

593
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Speaker 7: So now, like I said, a lot of coordinators ain't

594
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Speaker 7: gonna be scared to say, hey, man, you just don't

595
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Speaker 7: have the players to do what I want to do.

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm in.

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Speaker 7: Here, this is what I like to run. This is

598
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Speaker 7: how I run it. And he may not say it

599
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Speaker 7: as plain as I'm saying it, but once he start

600
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Speaker 7: explaining it to Shaddy or whoever listening, they're gonna be like, yeah,

601
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Speaker 7: they told him you better start free agency because we're

602
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Speaker 7: gonna do what he talking about.

603
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Speaker 5: This league demands.

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Speaker 7: That you have ultra talented ath. You ain't got to

605
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 7: be the most vicious tackler, but you got to be

606
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Speaker 7: in the right place and willing to tackle.

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Speaker 5: This is all this is league. It's a look at here, man.

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Speaker 5: The Texans down there, they.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's hold that Thought's hold that thought. Let's hold

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Speaker 1: that No no, no, no, no, yeah, that's where we're

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Speaker 1: going to second three. So what we're gonna do is

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Speaker 1: take another break, take our second break of the show.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, we're looking at the Cowboys and saying,

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Speaker 8: be part of all the touchdown celebrations and momentum shifting.

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Speaker 5: Back to hanging with the Boys.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Hanging with the Boys on this Thursday

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Speaker 1: Thursday edition. We're in the offense. You only get us

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Speaker 1: one day a week, so you better just you better

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Speaker 1: take us all in right now. You better, you better

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Speaker 1: absorb us right now. This segment is brought to you

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Speaker 1: by seven eleven. Always open. We don't know game this week,

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Speaker 1: but they always open. Right now. What's open, what's always

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Speaker 1: open is the defense accordinated job. It's open. It's open

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Speaker 1: here in Dallas, Cowboy fans get every day since it

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Speaker 1: was at your nearest seven eleven, whether you your team

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Speaker 1: big Gop or team Slurpee. Seven eleven is always open

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Speaker 1: and always ready. Twenty four seven You said that would

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Speaker 1: I knew, I knew you want big go.

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Speaker 6: Let it just pass the marketing people at seven eleven

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Speaker 6: half to know that's it's just.

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Speaker 1: They probably don't. Man, they probably don't. They probably don't.

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Speaker 1: The marketing people probably they don't.

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Speaker 5: They don't.

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Speaker 1: When we got rid of seven and eleven, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and some eleven is going.

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Speaker 5: What you think of the slurp uh.

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Speaker 1: See you know the Cowboys defensively? Yeah, this defense was

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00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: bad like and that's being nice. Yeah to say that

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00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: they were bad, were being being kind. It's keeping us

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Speaker 1: out of trouble because they are a host of other

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Speaker 1: names that we could have used for the Cowboys. Defensively

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Speaker 1: this year, the defenseive coordinated position is still available, still open.

693
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Speaker 1: They're casting a wide net whoever they hire, whenever they hire,

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Speaker 1: however they approach the off season, there needs to be

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Speaker 1: an identity that is set. We have set at this table,

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Speaker 1: beautiful table, beautiful time for years six, seven, eight, ten,

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Speaker 1: fifteen years, and we've talked the same thing over and

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Speaker 1: over and over. What is the identity? What is the

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Speaker 1: identity of this team, but more importantly, what is the

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Speaker 1: identity of the defense? That has long been the question

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Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. And as you, if you partake in it,

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Speaker 1: watch the playoffs, you kind of like the teams that

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Speaker 1: are in the playoffs, each one of them, especially those

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Speaker 1: that are now in this divisional round, they have an identity.

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Speaker 1: They have a very distinct identity, whether it's offensively or defensively,

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Speaker 1: whether it's going to be you know, flash and flair

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Speaker 1: or you know, physical or whatever it is, there is

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Speaker 1: there are identities that are very clear and for us,

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Speaker 1: defense is the topic of discussion and So have you

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Speaker 1: guys seen teams that are in the divisional round or

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs now that you look at and you go,

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Speaker 1: that's it, that's it. That's that's what I dream about.

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Speaker 1: That's what I look for when when when I get

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Speaker 1: up in the morning, a brush of my teeth, I

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Speaker 1: want to think that that's our defense. Are there any

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Speaker 1: teams that either one of.

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Speaker 5: You get your tooth brush back working? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: I'm back.

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Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm good, I just changed up the tooth brush. Well, Kurt,

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Speaker 1: I avoid that for a very reason. Are there there

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Speaker 1: a team or teams that you look at and you go.

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Speaker 6: I think a lot of these defenses, and you kind

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Speaker 6: of mentioned before, they're just so much more physical than

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Speaker 6: what are in discipline too, And I mean Houston, you know, Jacksonville, Seattle,

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Speaker 6: I mean Denver, I mean a lot of these teams.

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Speaker 6: They're righting their defense into the the playoffs, which I

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Speaker 6: think it's what like eight of the top ten defenses

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Speaker 6: this year in the playoffs, and like another couple down

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Speaker 6: in the top fifteen. It's I don't know, they defensive

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Speaker 6: wins championships. And I'm starting to believe it more and

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Speaker 6: more here watching some of these teams this year because

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Speaker 6: it's just I don't know where the Cowboys. The Cowboys

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Speaker 6: look a lot further away.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because of that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Denver wins in spite of their quarterback, even though

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Speaker 7: he has skills. They win in spite of their quarterback.

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Speaker 7: Seattle and these are the two number one teams. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: sitting that seated. They win in spite of their quarterback. Seattle.

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Speaker 7: Their defense is just that good and their running game

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Speaker 7: is dominant. This Texas scene, they got to overcome their quarterback.

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Speaker 7: They I would like to say that Drake May and

742
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Speaker 7: Josh Daniels was their biggest worry. But when they stay

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Speaker 7: on the plane with their biggest worry and that's their quarterback,

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Speaker 7: how can a kid fall out of favor like that?

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Speaker 7: This kid two years ago was unstoppable. I don't know

746
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Speaker 7: what has I know it's how the league gets caught

747
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Speaker 7: up with him, and for some reason he has not

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Speaker 7: made that mental jump.

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Speaker 5: But every team has.

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Speaker 7: A superpower, and then they have something that they can

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Speaker 7: fall back on. And Denver, Seattle and the Texans and

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Speaker 7: the Patriots have this superpower of defense and they fall

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Speaker 7: back onto their running games when things get kind of

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Speaker 7: shaking with their quarterback. They say, Okay, hold on, man,

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Speaker 7: let's run this thing a little bit. Get you back and.

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Speaker 5: See that's what we're missing.

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Speaker 7: We can run the ball, but it's not what we

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Speaker 7: can fall back on. What we fall back on is

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Speaker 7: dad and that's just too much.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 1: And you mentioned that I did a segment on my

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Speaker 1: other show about the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 5: Which one of the third one or the fourth one

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Speaker 5: you got first.

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Speaker 1: The first one that keep the mortgage paid people over there.

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Speaker 1: But I did a thing this morning on the Houston Texans,

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Speaker 1: and that's the defense that I point to. And what

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Speaker 1: I said about that defense was what we have to

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Speaker 1: get back to. And and up front, you got a

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Speaker 1: good starting's point because you have Osa, you have Clark,

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Speaker 1: you have Quinn and Quinn being the best of those.

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Speaker 1: So that gives you that what we don't have defensively,

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Speaker 1: And I faced it in my time from an offensive

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Speaker 1: player playing against the defense. Nates face it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he talks about it and players, we don't have anyone

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Speaker 1: that people fear. There's no there's no when people want. Clearly,

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Speaker 1: it's evident when people play the Cowboys offensively, there's no fear.

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Speaker 1: They line up and they go where do I want

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Speaker 1: to go with the football, And when you look at Houston,

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Speaker 1: you think about, okay, well that's that Will Anderson Jr.

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Speaker 5: Right there.

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Speaker 1: You get off the bus the night before. Offensive linemen

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Speaker 1: are not sleeping well because of a guy like Will

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Speaker 1: Anderson Jr. And then not to be made like he's

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Speaker 1: second fiddle. But he doesn't have the superstar kind of

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Speaker 1: thing put on him. But Danil Hunter who d'anil Hunter

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Speaker 1: will probably end his career and will have super Bowl

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Speaker 1: worthy numbers. He has over one hundred and twenty five sacks.

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Speaker 5: He will have Hall of Fame numbers.

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Speaker 1: He is over one hundred and twenty five sacks in

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Speaker 1: his career. And then you go back, all right, second level,

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Speaker 1: they have a guy like Aziz alsha Here. I don't

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Speaker 1: know why he still wears that arm brace. He's been

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Speaker 1: wearing it since he's been with the Tennessee Titans. In

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Speaker 1: that round with his elbow, he's just I think it's

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Speaker 1: like I think it's like the mask that Ras Hamilton. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just part of his uniform now. But he is

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Speaker 1: the aggressor, right like he he he alsha Here will

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Speaker 1: go to the line and a crazyly cross it and

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Speaker 1: his coach goes first one is on me, but you go,

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Speaker 1: you play, you play your play, you know what I mean.

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00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: And then on the back end, of course they have

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Speaker 1: Derrek Stanley Jr. Who is you know, one of the

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Speaker 1: best cornerbacks in the league. But they have a safety

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Speaker 1: and uh Alastater they got they got another corner in

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Speaker 1: Jalen Petrie. Right, so they like and they all are dogs.

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Speaker 1: I mean dogs.

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Speaker 7: You you turned the ball over inside twenty, then your

809
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 7: quarterback turned the ball over on this on on their forty,

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Speaker 7: and you only get three points in a playoff, you

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Speaker 7: only get three points. And I'm talking to some dude,

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Speaker 7: you know, I'm not gonna call his name, because I

813
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 7: had to talk down to him and bad to him

814
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Speaker 7: because he didn't realize what great defense was.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Now, I don't think you didn't go up to New

817
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Speaker 7: England and had the same thing happen.

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Speaker 1: But rud, But that defense, even when you make a

819
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: mess up on offense, that gives you a chance. And

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Speaker 1: so I just I close my eyes sometimes and I

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Speaker 1: ain't close I do I did. I'm like, man, what

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Speaker 1: was something like that? Maybe not the exact same thing.

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Speaker 1: But what is something like that was paired up with

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott that.

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Speaker 6: Kind of defense.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean you number one seed. You are

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Speaker 1: truly then a contender for a super And so as

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys begin their approach, their ascension into this offseason

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Speaker 1: team building, and I know I Will, Will is a

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Speaker 1: football head. I know that they're watching. I know that

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Speaker 1: they're not watching us, but they're watching football.

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Speaker 5: You got it. You can't.

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Speaker 1: You can't look at stuff like that and go how

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Speaker 1: do we get there? How do we get quickly?

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Speaker 5: Can you get there free agency?

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Speaker 1: How bad do you want to get it? How bad

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Speaker 1: do you want to get it? That asked the question,

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Speaker 1: because you.

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Speaker 7: Can get there, but you got to be willing.

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Speaker 6: Can you do it in Deck's window?

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Speaker 1: Sure?

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00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 5: Yes, you can't.

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00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 1: Sure, I mean you got two first round picks this year,

844
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Speaker 1: You got two first round picks next year.

845
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Speaker 5: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Depending on how aggressive you want to get. Are we

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Speaker 1: willing to give up one of those next year draft

848
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Speaker 1: picks to get something in this this season? You know,

849
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Speaker 1: strike strike the draft will be good. Got to strike

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00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: a free agency That's the only way you get there.

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00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 5: That's the only way.

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00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: That's the only way you get there free agency because

853
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: they brought in about four or five starters they drafted.

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00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, but they did the same thing.

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00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: They drafted. Well, you know, you're bringing the will Anderson.

856
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 1: But they said, yeah, Will Anderson is good, we won't

857
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: get a dog to run with him. Let's go get

858
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Speaker 1: the Neil Hunter. We'll bring him in here.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna get clown.

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Speaker 1: All right, yeah, all right, man, Shaddy will be back

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Speaker 1: from Mexico. I think next week, maybe next week. If

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00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 1: they don't, they may you know, they may keep them. Yeah,

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00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: and they may keep the may he may never leave

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Speaker 1: and they we can't come get them because uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: our president only runs Venezuela.

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Speaker 7: You know, don't do that.

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Speaker 5: By the way, free agency.

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Speaker 4: The tampering period starts March ninth to the eleventh and eleven.

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Speaker 7: We should we should be tampered, Yes, we should.

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Speaker 1: For Chris Beaming and back off sall Pepper Poppy until

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Speaker 1: next week.

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Speaker 11: We are.

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Speaker 4: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and

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