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Speaker 1: the year, since everybody wants to know who lap thinks

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Speaker 1: the Bengals are going to pick. Lap Let's start with

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Speaker 1: the all important need question. What is the number one

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Speaker 1: thing the Bengals must get in this draft?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think when you look at it, Dan, in

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Speaker 2: my mind, it's an interior, offensive and defensive lineman, and

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Speaker 2: I probably have to say offensive lineman more so. You know,

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Speaker 2: you do have a couple of young prospects that you

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Speaker 2: drafted last year in the second and third round at

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Speaker 2: the defensive tactical position.

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Speaker 3: You know, that.

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Speaker 2: That you're you're you're working with and you're trying to

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Speaker 2: improved from year one to year two. And I thought

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Speaker 2: they were both worthy of being selected, you know where

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Speaker 2: they were Jenkins McKinley in the second and third round, respectively.

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Speaker 2: But rookies are are exactly that. Rookies are young players

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Speaker 2: that need to learn a little bit. And I think

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Speaker 2: they went through that learning process. Uh, Jenkins obviously had

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Speaker 2: the injury that slowed him down. A hand injury to

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Speaker 2: a defensive lineman or an offensive lineman is brutal. When

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Speaker 2: you can't you're allowed to use your hands in the

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Speaker 2: National Football League and when the other guy can't you

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Speaker 2: can you can't.

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Speaker 3: It's very tough.

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Speaker 2: So, you know, I do think that they will address

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Speaker 2: the interior of the defensive line at some point. I

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Speaker 2: do think though, that the interior of the Bengals offensive

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Speaker 2: you you, uh, you have a situation where it's a

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Speaker 2: it's anybody's anybody's job right now at that at that

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Speaker 2: a very very big competition. You know, you sign one

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Speaker 2: in free agency and and I think Patrick's a good player,

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Speaker 2: There's no question about that. I think you know he's

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Speaker 2: a He's a guy that that is worthy of being signed.

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Speaker 2: The Bengals do sign him to that contract and unrestricted

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Speaker 2: free agency. Cordell Wolson that put on the bench toward

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Speaker 2: that's all so important. You know, he played both tackles

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Speaker 2: that guard position, one of the guard positions, and rightfully so.

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Speaker 2: But I do think that all things being equal, I'm

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Speaker 2: not saying you necessarily do it at seventeen if there

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Speaker 2: are other things available that might not be as big

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Speaker 2: I do think that staying along the lines of the

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Speaker 3: That's the way you improve your roster.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you to me, the number one need is

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Speaker 1: getting a starting guard, but you don't necessarily have to

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Speaker 1: the type of player they like. But this looks to

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Speaker 1: be a really good draft for guards. You've got Calvin

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Speaker 1: Let's invest the necessary draft capital to get a quality guard.

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Speaker 2: And and I think another guy, Tristan Cologne guy out

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Speaker 2: another Like you said, Dan, you rattled off you guys

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Speaker 2: there there are probably others that the Bengals feel confident about.

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Speaker 3: So I do.

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Speaker 2: I do think that that that position will be addressed,

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Speaker 2: and in my opinion, UH, i'd like to seeing address.

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Speaker 2: And the way that they're going to do that is,

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Speaker 2: I think they move back in the draft, uh with

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Speaker 2: groupings of players you know, at each at each spot

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Speaker 2: let's do that. Because they've got pick seventeen, they've got

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Speaker 2: But I do think that there's it gives you an

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Speaker 2: you know, I know, I know Zach and as Prusser

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Speaker 2: you know, said that they're not not looking for rookies

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Speaker 2: to start. They've got starters everywhere. They feel comfortable with that.

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Speaker 2: But in that and that should be you know, that

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Speaker 2: should be his message. I mean, everybody has to compete

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Speaker 2: for a position. But I know there's there's good players

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Speaker 2: seems to be as well as football player Will Campbell

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Speaker 2: out of l s u Uh. You know this guy.

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Speaker 2: We talked about it a lot. Okay, boy, this position versatility.

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Speaker 2: This guy can play guard and tackle. I haven't played

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Speaker 2: you know, all five, all five of the positions I can.

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Speaker 2: In my mind, it was easier to transition physically from

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Speaker 2: You have to make calls, You have to be quick minded,

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Speaker 2: You have to recognize what the what the defense is

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Speaker 2: So there's a lot bigger challenge mentally kicking inside from

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Speaker 2: from tackle to guard. The tackle doesn't really have to

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Speaker 2: worry about a lot of that. Tackle just has to

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Speaker 2: the traffic on the interstate. It's a lot busier inside

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Speaker 2: struggle a little bit with that. Physically not an issue

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Speaker 2: can they handle it?

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Speaker 3: And it seems like.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of a lot of guys that have

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of guys that are capable of playing

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Speaker 2: it seems like there's a pretty good group. And that's

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Speaker 2: the thing I think in general about this draft in

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Speaker 2: is the depth. You know, I mean every position group

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Speaker 2: back position is ridiculous. You know, there's all there's all

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Speaker 2: kinds of depth there. The wide receiver position has a

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Speaker 2: aren't necessarily in the market for, you know, for either

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Speaker 2: of them and their quality. You know, when when your

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Speaker 2: I mean that may be one of those one of

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Speaker 2: those position groups, maybe the best available athlete on the board,

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Speaker 2: and you pull the trigger on it because you're always

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Speaker 2: looking to improve your football team.

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Speaker 3: But I think that bodes well.

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Speaker 2: You know, It's like there's there's maybe a little bit

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Speaker 2: of a dip after the first I don't know, somewhere

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Speaker 2: between five and ten picks, a little bit of a depth.

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Speaker 2: Then it goes for and then there's not a fall

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Speaker 2: But well, I'll tell you, you know, you get into

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Speaker 2: even the fifth round. There's good football players there. There's

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Speaker 2: there's no question about it. That's why I think trading

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Speaker 2: back and accumulating another one, you know, makes some sense.

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Speaker 2: The Bengals only have six draft picks. They've traditionally had

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Speaker 2: had more than that in the last few years. I'd

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Speaker 2: like to see it happen again.

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Speaker 1: I do think they're going to trade back. I think

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Speaker 1: it's most likely in round two. I was taking a

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Speaker 1: look at Round one, specifically at the team's picking, you know,

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Speaker 1: within a few spots behind them, and trying to take

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Speaker 1: note of who had extra picks, and the one team

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Speaker 1: that could conceivably make sense is Houston. They've got the

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Speaker 1: twenty fifth pick, they've got an extra third rounder, and

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Speaker 1: Lap on your In the Trenches podcast. You've done some

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Speaker 1: I do think that the strength of the draft is

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow, they're not. Everybody's draft board is different for

434
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Speaker 2: those reasons. Based on those needs. That's why everybody has

435
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 2: a uh, you know, has an organizational mock draft, and

436
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 2: there's thirty two of the of franchises and thirty two

437
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 2: drafts mock drafts of those franchises. They're all going to

438
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,199
Speaker 2: be different because every one of them has has a

439
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 2: different need, and maybe the top fifty players that each

440
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:57,159
Speaker 2: each team puts on the board could be similar, and

441
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 2: there may be just a little bit of movement, you know,

442
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 2: and some of those positional rankings because of need, you're

443
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 2: always going to factor need in. So the fact that

444
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 2: the Bengals don't need a quarterback, I think is anytime

445
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 2: you go into a draft not needing the important position

446
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 2: to function as a team, you're in pretty good shape.

447
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 1: Lap the Bengals top thirty visits included Ohio State running

448
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:27,199
Speaker 1: backs Trayvon Henderson and Quinn Shawn Judkins. Henderson's projected as

449
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 1: a second round pick. Judkins is projected as a second

450
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: or third round pick. They've got Chase Brown, They're bringing

451
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 1: back some JP Ryan. This week, it was announced that

452
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: they've renegotiated a contract with Zach Moss. So, assuming his

453
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 1: neck is okay, it looks like he could be back.

454
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Speaker 1: What do you make of the Bengals interest in these

455
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 1: early round running backs.

456
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think, like we talked about, the

457
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 2: running back position is probably the star position in this

458
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,199
Speaker 2: year's draft in terms of quality player depth, and I

459
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 2: think as much as anything doing their due diligence. You know,

460
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:06,120
Speaker 2: another guy like is Omarion Hampton out of North Carolina.

461
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 2: I think you know, he's got size, he's got uh skills.

462
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 2: I mean, there's so many of these running backs that

463
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 2: they're not just able to run. They can, obviously, but

464
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 2: they're not a one trick pony. It's not Oh, give

465
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 2: them the football and they can. They can run the

466
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 2: football and that's it.

467
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 3: Now.

468
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 2: These guys they run the football at a high level,

469
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 2: but then they can run routes and catch the football

470
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 2: at a high level. And most importantly or very importantly

471
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 2: in the National Football because we talk about how it

472
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 2: being a passing league, and Joe Burrow in the Cincinnati

473
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 2: Bengals are very much and not an embarrassed or ashamed

474
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 2: to say that we throw the football. So you got

475
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 2: to have your running backs to be able to put

476
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Speaker 2: their nose in right down the middle of people and

477
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 2: pick them up and blitz, pick up and that's where

478
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 2: Samaji p run I think that's such a big acquisition

479
00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 2: and as an understood to free agent because man, I mean,

480
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 2: he's a big guy under six feet tall, but Wayne

481
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 2: two unning thirty pounds, you know, and he has to

482
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 2: make you miss to him, and he can run you

483
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 2: over as well.

484
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 3: There's nothing a defender hates more than.

485
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 2: A back, like, oh, man, do I go in there

486
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 2: and anchor hard because he's gonna try to run me over.

487
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 2: But if I do that, he's gonna make me miss.

488
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 2: And if I go in there soft, he's gonna lower

489
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 2: his pads and run me over.

490
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 3: You know.

491
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 2: And Somaji can do that at that type of thing

492
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 2: to you in the running game. And then he's always

493
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 2: been a really good rout runner and capture the football.

494
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 2: And since he's been with the Cincinnati Bengals and now back,

495
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,199
Speaker 2: he was good at blitz pick up, but he's become outstanding.

496
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,679
Speaker 2: I mean, he's one of the best blitz pickup guys

497
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 2: in all of football. He sticks his nose right down

498
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 2: the middle of people and no no matter who they are,

499
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 2: if it's a linebacker, that is his responsibility. If he's

500
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 2: doesn't have any blitzer, if he has to help an

501
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 2: offensive lineman that may have been having some trouble and

502
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,479
Speaker 2: getting beaten by a defense. He'll stick his nose right

503
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 2: in there on that defensive lineman. I mean, he's he's

504
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 2: a valuable, valuable asset. So I mean, I think a

505
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 2: lot of these running backs give you, you know, that

506
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 2: type of thing, and there's there's a good number of them,

507
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 2: so I think you do your due diligence, and you

508
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 2: can never have enough of those guys either. And so

509
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 2: it'll be interesting to see how high a running back

510
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,479
Speaker 2: does go to the Cincinnati Bengals, because it looks like

511
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 2: you know they're going to address that position at some

512
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 2: point in time. And as Paul Brown, the Great Paul

513
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 2: Brown said as well, you can never have enough players

514
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 2: to put points on the board for you.

515
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 3: The guys will score touchdowns.

516
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 2: So when there's a guy that can score touchdowns that's

517
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,239
Speaker 2: available to you in the draft and a spot that

518
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 2: you felt there's no way in hell that person was

519
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 2: going to be there, you got to pull the trader man.

520
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: I was a little surprised that they brought those Ohio

521
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 1: State guys in only because I can't see them using

522
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 1: a high pick. This year on a running back, but

523
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: Chase Brown was a fifth round pick, number one sixty

524
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: three overall. I think there are a lot of Chase

525
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: Browns in this draft. I feel like I saw about

526
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: six of them in the Big twelve. I mean, you

527
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: see is Corey Kiner as a really good football player.

528
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: I think he can play in the NFL. I don't

529
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: think he's going to get drafted this year, just because

530
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: there are so many good running backs in the Big twelve.

531
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 3: R J.

532
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: Harvey from UCF, DJ Geddons from Kansas State, Cam Skataboo,

533
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: who is awesome for Arizona State, TOAJ Brooks from Texas Tech,

534
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: Devin Neil from Kansas. It seemed like every team had

535
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: an NFL caliber running back and they're probably all Day

536
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: three guys. Maybe one of the guys I mentioned sneaks

537
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: into the third round, like Skataboo, but I think most

538
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: of those guys that I mentioned will either be Day

539
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: three or maybe even undrafted free agents. So if you're

540
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: looking to add depth at running back, you don't have

541
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: to do it high this year.

542
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 2: No question, no question about it. And you know the combine.

543
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,959
Speaker 2: I got a copy of the players that showed up

544
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 2: at the combine. And that doesn't mean you know that

545
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 2: there's a player out there that's going to get drafted

546
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 2: that that you know wasn't at the combine, or wasn't

547
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 2: it wasn't at the combine.

548
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 3: But you know, the.

549
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 2: Combine is a pretty good example of what NFL teams

550
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 2: think about about players. And for example, they're there are

551
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 2: from an offensive lineman standpoint twenty five caliber center guard,

552
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 2: interior offensive line candidates went to the combine. I'm looking

553
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 2: at I don't know, maybe a half a dozen that

554
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 2: the Bengals would have significant interest in same thing. You know,

555
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 2: for the tackle position, twenty five of those and there's

556
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 2: you know, maybe half a dozen.

557
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 3: The running back position they had the most.

558
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 2: I mean, they had so many people to combine and

559
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 2: they might have had a dozen guys that I think, Man,

560
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 2: you know what, you got to take a second look

561
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 2: at this guy. You're gonna maybe take a third look

562
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 2: at this guy. And even even if you're set at

563
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 2: the running back position, the the the odds of an injury,

564
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 2: unfortunately at the running back position a hell of a

565
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 2: lot more than they are at the at the tackle

566
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 2: position or the guards position or whatever else. So you

567
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 2: can never have enough of those of those type of players,

568
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 2: So I do. I do believe there's gonna be a

569
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 2: lot of running backs drafted in this draft, for sure,

570
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 2: And then they don't. They'll they'll come as as college

571
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 2: free agents and have a legitimate chance of making a

572
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 2: football team or a practice squader, or where the case

573
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 2: may be.

574
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: The Bengals first third round pick last year was Jermaine Burton.

575
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: He's still on the roster, so the Bengals have not

576
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: given up on him, but will last year's experience where

577
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: they took him despite some red flags, have any impact

578
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: on what they do in this year's draft.

579
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 2: You always learn lessons, you know, and and if if

580
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 2: it doesn't work out, and you're you know, you're you're

581
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: getting close to that fire and you got it. You

582
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 2: know you're you're out and it's a cold evening, you

583
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 2: want to get your body warm. You get close to

584
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 2: that fire, and close to that fire, then all of

585
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 2: a sudden you get so close and it burns you

586
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 2: so and uh and in that situation you make a

587
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 2: call and uh and and you roll the dice and

588
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 2: and might get burned a little bit. I think every

589
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 2: case is an individual study. I heard Zach Taylor talk

590
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 2: about that that phraseology in his press and I thought

591
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 2: that was a that was a good good way to

592
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 2: put it. Every player is an individual case study. So

593
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 2: but but part of of what you experienced there, you

594
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 2: learn from it and you put it in the memory

595
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 2: bank and you put it in the files that you

596
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: can reference back to from an organizational standpoint, So I

597
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 2: do think that there was.

598
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 3: A learning uh.

599
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 2: Uh, a lesson learned, I think in the drafting of Burton.

600
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 2: And I do think that Burton was a highly regarded

601
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, mid first round caliber type player,

602
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 2: and they got him in the third you know, and

603
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 2: so they probably thought, you know, a third round pick

604
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 2: is still a valuable pick, and ain't the middle of

605
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 2: the first round. So maybe we maybe we take a

606
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 2: little bit of a chance here and and uh and

607
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 2: see what happens. And that's not to say that that

608
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 2: Burton doesn't grow from his mistakes. You know that he

609
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 2: made last year from a behavior standpoint, But the the

610
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 2: the alarming thing is that the pattern continued, you know,

611
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 2: I mean, you hope that now that he's a pro

612
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 2: and he's making money and has an opportunity to make money,

613
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: that would would take care of his family for multiple generations,

614
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 2: potentially might give him a little inkling to change some

615
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 2: of his ways, and the fact that it necessarily didn't

616
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 2: can be alarming. So yeah, there's a lot to be

617
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 2: learned there for sure. But again, as Zach said, every

618
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 2: player is an individual case study.

619
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: The Bengals had three extra draft picks last year. They've

620
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: got one fewer than they should have this year. One

621
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: of those extra picks last year was in the third round,

622
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: So they took a calculated risk on Jermaine Burton because,

623
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, he had first round talent, and at

624
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: least so far, it hasn't worked out very well. I

625
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: don't think it was a bad gamble every team. Yeah,

626
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: every team takes calculated risks in the draft. Sometimes we

627
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: know about it, sometimes we don't. They often work. Randy

628
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: Moss and Warren Warren Sap had red flags during the

629
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Jalen Carter had major red flags a

630
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. He just helped Eagles win the

631
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. You do your best on those individual case

632
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: studies to evaluate the person and decide if he's worth

633
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: the risk. I don't see the Bengals taking big risks

634
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: this year because they only have six picks, not because

635
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: they are scared off from what happened with Jermaine last year.

636
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 3: I agree one hundred thousand percent with that. Dan.

637
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 2: And you know, it's it's funny when you're talking about

638
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 2: although it's not quite the same these days with college

639
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 2: football because you have multi millionaires playing the college football

640
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 2: transfer a portal, money and all that kind of thing,

641
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 2: and money to keep players out of the transfer for

642
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 2: a portal. I mean, it's it's it's a crazy uh,

643
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 2: it's a crazy deal now in college football. But I

644
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 2: remember back in the day, one concern that organizations had

645
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 2: was how will money change a guy? You know, it's like,

646
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 2: here's a guy that through high school and college, maybe

647
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 2: even earlier than that, his way out of a tough

648
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 2: way of life with sports and and you know, realized

649
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 2: that he had to, uh, somebody let them down the

650
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Speaker 2: proper path of Okay, make sure you keep track of academics,

651
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Speaker 2: where uh the fact that you might be progressing with

652
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Speaker 2: your athletic career, your academic career doesn't allow you to advance,

653
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 2: you know you're going to be in trouble. So you know,

654
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 2: you get guys that some guys fell off the off

655
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Speaker 2: the wagon after their high school careers because they didn't

656
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 2: take advice about the academics. Guys that took advice about

657
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 2: academics go to the collegiate ranks and and and you know,

658
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 2: continue to develop and build their careers. And then they

659
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 2: go to the National Football League and make money. And boy,

660
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Speaker 2: I'll tell you, I saw I saw cases of it.

661
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 2: You know, guys would get that uh that signing bonus

662
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Speaker 2: and and be different guys. I mean, the the the

663
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 2: irresponsibility portion of their of their personality came out, you know,

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Speaker 2: full force.

665
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 3: Man.

666
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 2: I mean it was crazy. And they couldn't get the

667
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Speaker 2: money in the bank positive quickly enough to cover the

668
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 2: fact they were buying them as erati or whatever. I mean,

669
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, man, are you kidding me? Uh so, yeah,

670
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 2: It's it's interesting. It's you don't know how things are

671
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 2: going to affect players and maybe change them a little bit.

672
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 2: And every every single draft pick I shouldn't say every

673
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 2: single but a high percentage of the draft picks, or

674
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 2: if there's there's some risk involved, you know, there's some

675
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 2: you don't know exactly what you're gonna get, Like like

676
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 2: when the Bengals selected Kenny Anderson, and he panned out

677
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 2: like he did. You know, they felt like they knew

678
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 2: what they were going to get and they got it.

679
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow, they felt like they knew where they were

680
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 2: going to get and they got it. Boomer Sisen. They

681
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 2: felt like they knew where they were going to get

682
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 2: and they got it. And that you know, that's just

683
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 2: the most important position of the quarterback position. But there

684
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,280
Speaker 2: have been a ton around the league where it hasn't

685
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 2: panned out that way, and for the Bengals as well

686
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 2: at the quarterback position, UH in other positions. So the

687
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 2: draft is it's referred to as a crapshoot for reason,

688
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 2: and a good reason.

689
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Speaker 1: Really, did you get a Maserati with your signing bonus?

690
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 3: No, I was.

691
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 2: I was already married when and I get married right

692
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Speaker 2: before UH training camp started my rookie year, and so

693
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Speaker 2: I responsibly purchased a a Chevrolet Monte Carlo.

694
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Speaker 3: Nice.

695
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 1: Nice.

696
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,919
Speaker 2: But that was the first car I ever owned, man,

697
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 2: I mean I didn't have I didn't have two Nichols

698
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 2: in that regard, and it was I couldn't believe it.

699
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 3: It's like wow, but yeah, it was.

700
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 2: It wasn't what I guess you'd consider the family car

701
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 2: as such. But I didn't go crazy, but I you know,

702
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 2: I kind of wanted a little bit of Hey did

703
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 2: Monty Carlo? Yeah, cruise around Wakefield mask will be Hey

704
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 2: what up?

705
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 3: Boys? Yeah? Remember me? Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Much more with Lap to Gum, including our first round predictions.

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Speaker 1: But first, here's a quick reminder that the Bengals Booth

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Speaker 1: are going to get to our predictions in just a bit,

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Speaker 1: But first, do you have a few Day two or

716
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Speaker 1: Day three guys that you like?

717
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 2: Donovan Jackson out of Ohio State, Uh, I'd like I

718
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 2: like looking at uh at him a little bit as

719
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 2: as an offensive lineman. I'm not sure where Luke Candor

720
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 2: out of you see, you know all about him Dan

721
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 2: Elder High School went to Louisville. You know, I think

722
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 2: I think he's uh, he's a guy that, uh that

723
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 2: has some potential. Charles Grant out of William and mary

724
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 2: as A as an interior offensive lineman, I think, uh,

725
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 2: you know, has has some uh.

726
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Speaker 3: Some potential appeal.

727
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 2: Kate Ratlic, you know, I think I don't think he's

728
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 2: necessarily a first rounder, but you know, second or third

729
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 2: round I jump all over all over that.

730
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Speaker 3: I think Josh.

731
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Speaker 2: Simmons, I think uh uh seven eah, like you mentioned

732
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 2: out of Arizona. I think those guys will probably be gone.

733
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 2: Jared Wilson out of Georgia. He's a center, but could

734
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 2: he play guard? I mean, you know, you think maybe

735
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 2: maybe that would be the case. I know long teams

736
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Speaker 2: have grays abel as A as a first rounder, maybe

737
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 2: a late first rounder. I'm not sure. I'm not sure

738
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Speaker 2: he'd be there, you know, in the second round. I

739
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 2: think the Bengals would have to maybe you know, move

740
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 2: up to get him. But he might be there, you know,

741
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 2: in the late second round. And a guy like that,

742
00:39:55,000 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 2: potentially uh Jordan Phillips out of Maryland, big defensive lineman,

743
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 2: they might be able to even get him in the

744
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 2: fourth or fifth round. I think I think that guy

745
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 2: is one, that one that might hold some some merit

746
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Speaker 2: in that regard.

747
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 3: Dion Walker out of Kentucky, Big old beast.

748
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure he goes in the first round, but

749
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Speaker 2: would he be there in the second potentially? I mean,

750
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Speaker 2: the three and forty five pounds space eater man. He's

751
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,240
Speaker 2: a he's a he's a powerful human being.

752
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Speaker 3: TYLERK. Williams out of Ohio State. Second round.

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Speaker 2: You know, maybe there's there's there's quite a few really

754
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 2: and then of course, I mean I'm just looking at

755
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 2: the at the defensive defensive line scenario here. Jack Sawyer

756
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 2: interesting candidate. People have him he's not a first rounder.

757
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 2: Other people, oh yeah, he's a definite first rounder. A

758
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 2: lot of people have in the second round. Would he

759
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Speaker 2: would he go as low as the second round as

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Speaker 2: the Bengals are. I'm not sure that that would be

761
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Speaker 2: the case, but you know, he's an interesting guy. Shamar

762
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 2: Stewart out of Texas A and m if he's there

763
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Speaker 2: in the in the in the second round.

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Speaker 3: Uh. Jehad Campbell out of out of Alabama. I like

765
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Speaker 3: that guy.

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Speaker 2: I think he's another I like the Campbell boys. I

767
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 2: think you know, he's another one that if he's there

768
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Speaker 2: in the second round, you'd have to you'd have to

769
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Speaker 2: jump on him. Jack Kaiser out of Notre Dame as

770
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Speaker 2: a as a linebacker. Al Golden knows all about that kid.

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Speaker 2: You know if he if he's there in that uh

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Speaker 2: in that portion of the draft, you uh do you

773
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Speaker 2: make the make the move there?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

775
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 2: Jaylen Walker out of Georgia, you know. I mean he's

776
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 2: got a lot of versatility. He can play off the

777
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 2: ball as well as rush the passer. He's physically athletically gifted.

778
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean the list is and then again

779
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Speaker 2: another Notre Dame uh potential at the at the corner position,

780
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 2: Benjamin Moore. I'm not sure that he's there in the

781
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 2: second round. I think Al Golden would definitely give us

782
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 2: some serious consideration. Then his running mate Xavier Watts at

783
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Speaker 2: safety on a Notre Dame. I mean, he's he's one

784
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,879
Speaker 2: that would probably be there in those third fourth round

785
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 2: kind of guy potentially. So there's a good number. I mean,

786
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 2: like we talked about this, this is a keep draft,

787
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 2: and I think you know the fact that players of

788
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Speaker 2: that caliber would be there when we're when we're talking

789
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Speaker 2: about that, that possibility confirms that, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, you mentioned several of my favorite Day two or

791
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Speaker 1: Day three guys, I'll give you at least one other

792
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: name that I've got, and he is a guy from

793
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Speaker 1: our alma mater, running back Laquint Allen. I think would

794
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: be a great fit for what the Bengals do on

795
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: offense because he is a real dual threat. He ran

796
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 1: for more than a thousand yards. But he also set

797
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: the Syracuse record for catches by a running back last year.

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Speaker 1: He had sixty four catches out of the backfield. He's

799
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,479
Speaker 1: only twenty years old. Because of this really deep pool

800
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Speaker 1: of running backs, I think he'll be there on Day three.

801
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 1: So if they go for a running back I like

802
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Speaker 1: laquin Allen, I'll mention a Day two edge rusher. I

803
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Speaker 1: think he'll be Day two Ashton Gilotti from Louisville. He

804
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: is a guy that our mutual friend Joe Goodberry really likes.

805
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: Tremendous athletic testing, good production at Louisville, and he seems

806
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: to be a little bit under the radars. So not

807
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Speaker 1: sure if he'll be there at pick number forty nine,

808
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Speaker 1: but maybe he is, and if so, I think he'd

809
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Speaker 1: be a good fit. I like a Day three pass

810
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: rusher Kyle Connard from South Carolina, the SEC Defensive Player

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Speaker 1: of the Year last year. He won the Bronco on

812
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Speaker 1: a Gerski Award. Probably a situational pass rusher projected to

813
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Speaker 1: go on Day three, but hey, the Bengals could use

814
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Speaker 1: a guy that fits that description. You mentioned a couple

815
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Speaker 1: of the Notre Dame defensive guys that I really like.

816
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 1: Xavier Watts, the safety would be tremendous if he's there

817
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: in Round two. Thirteen interceptions over the last two years,

818
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Speaker 1: so it would probably take pick number forty nine to

819
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Speaker 1: get him. Jake Kaiser another guy you mentioned. He played

820
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 1: in seventy games at Notre Dame, a captain last year.

821
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: Little bit undersized, a good, not great athlete, but Al

822
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Speaker 1: Golden would certainly know exactly what he can and cannot

823
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: do and would know how to use him. And then

824
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Speaker 1: I also want to get back to Luke Candra out

825
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: of UC and Elder High School. If they were to

826
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Speaker 1: double down on interior offensive lineman, he would be a

827
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Speaker 1: great candidate. His dream is to stay home and play

828
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Speaker 1: for the Bengals to be the next you know, Kevin

829
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Speaker 1: Huber High School, college and pro in Cincinnati. Two time

830
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Speaker 1: All American, two time All Big twelve, Great Pro Football

831
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Speaker 1: Focus grades, a captain, a leader. He's going to be

832
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: there on Day three. He might even be available after

833
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: the draft. I hope for his sake that's not the case.

834
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Speaker 1: But I would really love to see him wind up

835
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Speaker 1: in a Cincinnati Bengals uniform.

836
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd love to see that as well.

837
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Speaker 2: You know a guy that Elder High School Louisville now

838
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 2: with the Cincinnati Bengals. I mean, that'd be a storybook

839
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 2: scenario to his career. I think Scott Peters, the offensive

840
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 2: line coach, could could take a guy like that and

841
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 2: really work with him. And and you know the fact

842
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 2: that the Bengals, we mentioned Al Golden on the defensive

843
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 2: side of the football, and there are other multiple defensive

844
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 2: coaches that are new to the staff on his side

845
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 2: of things, and Al Golden he knows what he's looking

846
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,240
Speaker 2: at in terms of these players. And the thing about

847
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 2: Al when you think about it, is, Shoot, he was

848
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 2: at the collegiate level. I mean, he coached Notre Dame

849
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 2: all the way to the National championship. So he looked

850
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 2: at just reams and rings of tape of players as

851
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 2: he was prepping uh for the Notre Dame fighting Iris's schedule,

852
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 2: and they play a very good schedule and again they

853
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 2: go all the way to the National championship game.

854
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 3: So he what an asset.

855
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 2: He is in the draft room right now talking to

856
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 2: the organization and the scouts and everybody else about his opinion.

857
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:20,479
Speaker 2: And I know Duke Tobin uh wants in Mike Brown,

858
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 2: it starts with him. Wants everybody in the organization to

859
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 2: have a voice and have an opinion. And Al Golden

860
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 2: is going to have a very strong voice and a

861
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 2: lot of opinions on not only the Notre Dame players

862
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 2: that we talk about, that the defensive players that he coached,

863
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:38,280
Speaker 2: that he knows intimately as in terms of football players

864
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 2: and human beings. That's that's invaluable information. And guys that man,

865
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Speaker 2: I'll tell you about when we were game planning against

866
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 2: this dude.

867
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 3: What a beast.

868
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 2: I mean this guy, shoot, I think he grated one

869
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 2: hundred percent pass protection watching him and tape all year long,

870
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:54,760
Speaker 2: I mean this this guy is an animal.

871
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 3: Nobody beats this kid.

872
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 2: And this running back, Oh my gosh, man, we having

873
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 2: round two or three guys and need jucas.

874
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 3: And off he goes and.

875
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 2: I mean those those kind of personal experiences, I think

876
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 2: are are big. So I think uh, I think Al

877
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 2: Golden and uh and guys, you know, they came from

878
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 2: other organizations, you know, like the the other coaches, other

879
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 2: organizations in the National Football League. When you get that

880
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 2: kind of experience in your game planning against other teams,

881
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 2: and then like the normand Patriots, New Orleans Faints where

882
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 2: these coaches come from. And in the division teams that

883
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 2: that these teams play, uh, the the in the a

884
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,919
Speaker 2: C and the NFC respectively, in their in their divisions,

885
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 2: and and every team in the NFL crosses over and

886
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 2: plays you know, everybody every four years, you know. I mean,

887
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 2: so there's a lot of uh, there's a lot of

888
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 2: new new voices and new opinions in that draft room

889
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 2: as they're getting ready for the draft. And I think

890
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 2: that's good. I think I think it's gonna be Uh.

891
00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 2: They're they're going to be armed, well armed, and prepare

892
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 2: for every every conceivable opportunity that might crop up in

893
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 2: the draft and in free agency as well. You know,

894
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 2: you're talking about guys unrestricted free agents. Now, I'm not

895
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 2: sure they're going to be spending a whole lot more

896
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 2: money on unrestricted free agency. It will be more the

897
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 2: secondary market probably after the draft. Like we talked about, uh,

898
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 2: there there may be another another push. But you know, men,

899
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 2: you've you've prepped for all these guys. We talked about

900
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 2: al at the collegiate level, at the professional level. All

901
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 2: these guys have done the same thing, broken the takedown

902
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 2: and talked about you know, these opponents and uh and

903
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 2: how good they are and what we considered to be

904
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 2: their strengths and weaknesses from an organizational standpoint when we

905
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 2: were playing against them and taking that that information is

906
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,280
Speaker 2: valuable and bring it to Cincinnati. It might be the same,

907
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 2: but there might be some new input that's extremely valuable.

908
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 2: So I think that the new coaching staff is going

909
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 2: to be very very significant in terms of what the

910
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 2: Bengals decide to do with respect to a round by

911
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 2: round basis in the draft. And I'm sure they've already

912
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 2: had him put in unrestricted free agency as well.

913
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: We have just about arrived at prediction time. But before

914
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 1: we get to putting you on the spot and putting

915
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: myself on the spot, who do you have in the

916
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: mix your final candidates to be the seventeenth overall pick.

917
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 2: Well, you know, there's there's all all kinds of all

918
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 2: kinds of candidates out there. I will say that, Uh,

919
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 2: you know, mel kiper I looked at I looked at

920
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 2: his his top you know, I guess twenty just recently

921
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 2: came out and it's a lot different, you know than

922
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 2: a lot of other other people's top twenty. But there

923
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 2: there are there's a multiple list of candidates. So honestly,

924
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 2: I think, uh, you know, Will cam is probably my

925
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 2: my number one guy. I think if I had to,

926
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 2: if I had to make a pick, uh, and you know,

927
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 2: it's just you know, you're gonna be locked in a

928
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 2: room you can't make you can't be unlocked out of

929
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 2: that room until you decide who you're who you're taking.

930
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 2: You know, at seventeen, I think Will Campbell gives gives

931
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 2: a tremendous amount of tremendous amount of value there, So

932
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 2: it I probably you know, lean toward that, But I mean,

933
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 2: there'd be so many guys potentially there. If Jaylon Walker

934
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 2: is there, Uh, you know, this guy can play outside linebacker,

935
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 2: inside linebacker, slot corner, you know, Mike Green out of

936
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 2: out of Marshall, if he if he's there, you have

937
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 2: to you have to consider, you know, a guy like that,

938
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 2: and I mean, uh a Buka at Buka out of

939
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 2: a house state at why receiver, I mean he falls

940
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 2: into that that kind of that kind of category. Will

941
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 2: Johnson potentially cornerback out of Michigan. I mean, there are

942
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 2: there are so many guys that that you look at

943
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 2: Jihad Campbell, the other Campbell, I mean looking at him,

944
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,439
Speaker 2: linebacker out of Alabama, like you know, like that guy

945
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 2: potentially Gray's Abel out of uh North Dakota State, a

946
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 2: smaller school.

947
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 3: But man, he dominated. He dominated at North Dakota State.

948
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 2: I mean, he's He's a guy that could be right

949
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 2: there in the middle of the first round for the

950
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals take would that be a little rich?

951
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know.

952
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 2: He's unbelievable pass protector. I think is he the one

953
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 2: man that might have been a wide receiver or a

954
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 2: running back before he converted.

955
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, he converted.

956
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 2: To uh uh in the office of I know, I

957
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 2: know he's very athletic and but and he's he's a

958
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 2: little bit undersized. Uh, he's really good pass protector. Thh man,

959
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 2: He's got movement skills. He's very athletic. My concern I

960
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 2: guess on him would be, you know, handling these big, huge,

961
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 2: two gaping defensive tackles. That's not necessarily you know, his

962
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 2: big strength is is moving moving guys like that Derek Harmon,

963
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 2: a defensive tackle lot of Oregon. There's medical concerns I

964
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 2: guess with him now, but he's a heck of an

965
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 2: interior pass rush guy. Uh Matt Gold and another receiver

966
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 2: out of Texas. I mean, this guy runs a four

967
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,959
Speaker 2: two nine. If he slides all the way down to there,

968
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 2: you know it's is he Is he worth looking at?

969
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 2: And you know, hell yeah. Amaron Hampton the running back

970
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 2: that I that I like. I mean, there's I could go.

971
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 2: I could go on and on. You know, there's gonna

972
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 2: be a quarterback obviously in that air, but not not

973
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 2: interested in any of that noise. And that's for sure.

974
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 2: But it's it's gonna be it's gonna be interesting. There's

975
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 2: there's a a good number of guys. But I think

976
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 2: if I had to, if I had to pick, because

977
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 2: I I think Will Campbell not only from a you know,

978
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 2: a football player standpoint, I think he played tackle or

979
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 2: I think he could do either and do either he's

980
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 2: gets drafted. You know, you've got a pair of book ends,

981
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 2: Orlando Brown and our big boy men's like you talk

982
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 2: about Dan who has got what that's just the bookends

983
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 2: are huge, humongous. I mean big ath what the guys

984
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 2: that tackle position? So do you draft another tackle? Well, yeah,

985
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 2: well he play right away. Maybe kick him inside the guard.

986
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 2: I mean I think he'd be I think he'd make

987
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 2: that transition very easily because he's got tremendous football IQ.

988
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 2: You know, he's got leadership qualities. They rave about him

989
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,439
Speaker 2: as a person, and that's what the uh, that's what

990
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor has done in the Bengals organization has done.

991
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 2: Has has made the culture that they've you know developed

992
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 2: here in Cincinnati, I think is second to none. And

993
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 2: it's become a destination.

994
00:53:58,320 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 3: Uh.

995
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 2: Every that the Bengal was probably interviewed in terms of

996
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 2: unrestricted free agency and the draft, would you have answers

997
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 2: in coming to Cincinnati?

998
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 3: Son? Hell, yeah, man, you got Joe Burrow, you got this,

999
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 3: you got that.

1000
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 2: I mean, the the Cincinnati Bengals have developed at pretty

1001
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 2: good roster, good good culture. It's a destination, man, and

1002
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 2: there's nothing better when your organization has become a destination

1003
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 2: and you're living in high cotton.

1004
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: I have seven guys in the mix for me as

1005
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: the seventeenth overall pick two defensive tackles. You mentioned Derek

1006
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: Harmon from Oregon, He's one. Walter Nolan from Ole Miss

1007
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: is the other. I've got Mike Green from Marshall is

1008
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: my one edge in my final seven guys. I've got

1009
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 1: two safeties, Malachi Starks and Nick Evan Wory.

1010
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1011
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 1: And I've got two offensive linemen, Tyler Booker and Kelvin Banks.

1012
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: Harmon is six' five athletic interior pass, rusher number one

1013
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: by far according TO pff for interior pressures last year

1014
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 1: in college. Football The bengals could obviously use. That nolan

1015
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 1: is six,' four tremendous quickness of very disruptive interior linement

1016
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 1: in the running and. Passing game there are some character

1017
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 1: concerns there That the bengals would have to be. Okay

1018
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: with green is my favorite among the. Edge guys, he's twitchy.

1019
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 1: He's violent he was number one in the country in

1020
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 1: sacks last year. With seventeen does have assault charges in,

1021
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: his past but his Coaches at virginia And then marshall rave.

1022
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: ABOUT him i think he Looks Like trey hendrickson two

1023
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: point zero to ME when i watch his Footage From Marshall,

1024
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: malachi starks the safety Out of georgia is about as

1025
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: close as sure thing as you. Can get, to me

1026
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: three year starter quarterback of Those great, georgia defenses never missed.

1027
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 1: A game. Team leader the last Time the bengals were

1028
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 1: really good, on defense They Had. Jesse bates this guy

1029
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: has a Lot Of jesse bates, to him. To me

1030
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: and then There's Nick, emon warri arguably the best athlete

1031
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 1: in the draft on a defense that lacks big. Play

1032
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 1: guys he could Be it pick six's fumbles forced from.

1033
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 1: Jarring hits he's like a More Athletic kyle hamilton. Creating

1034
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: havoc and then you have the, Two Guards tyler Booker And,

1035
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: kelvin banks who would be a. CONVERTED tackle i Interviewed

1036
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: former Alabama Quarterback tyler, watts recently who's the analyst on the.

1037
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 1: Radio broadcasts he put it, this way every quarterback in

1038
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 1: the world would Want Five tyler bookers in front. Of them,

1039
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: physically imposing elite pass protector with, a big magnetic Personality

1040
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: Like Orlando. Brown Junior, like orlando not necessarily a, great

1041
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 1: athlete that's the knock, on HIM but i do think

1042
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: he's going to be successful IN. The nfl And Then

1043
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 1: kelvin banks left Tackle, at texas so there's always a

1044
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 1: bit of a gamble and you move him to guard IN.

1045
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 1: The nfl but he's a much better Athlete, than BOOKER

1046
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,399
Speaker 1: and i think he could eventually become your starting left

1047
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 1: Tackle After Orlando, Brown junior so some potential extra. Value

1048
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: there so those are my Seven guys i've identified as

1049
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: The ones i'm really focusing on at pick.

1050
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 2: Number seventeen, You Know walter nolan you talk About the

1051
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 2: green led the country in sacks. With Seventeen walter nolan

1052
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 2: led the nation in twelve tackles, for loss that LED.

1053
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 2: The fbs so he's one of those guys that is,

1054
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 2: a disruptor, you know hit a. Gap penetrate, so yeah

1055
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 2: it's gonna it's gonna. BE interesting, I Mean, al golden

1056
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 2: do these guys fit WHAT who i? Should say who

1057
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 2: fits best to what he wants to do or he

1058
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 2: has so much in his in his repertoire that he

1059
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 2: Can say i'm going to take this guy and just

1060
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 2: MODIFY what i do to fit this. Guy's STRENGTHS and

1061
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 2: i think that's the definition of a Great. COACHING uh

1062
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 2: i think that That's What paul, brown again uh and

1063
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 2: his coaching staff they were so, good at. IS adapting

1064
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 2: i mean they had they had a uh a structure

1065
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 2: in mind what they wanted to. Do schematically BUT if

1066
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 2: i might Read From penn state, with that, you know

1067
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 2: unbelievable quickness and burst and first step quickness and all

1068
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 2: of that, is available take them and if you, have to,

1069
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 2: you know modify and adjust a, little bit uh to

1070
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 2: basically align align yourself with this.

1071
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 3: Skill set so.

1072
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 2: Be it, you know when you when you have a

1073
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 2: when you have a guy that could be that type

1074
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 2: of a, disruptive force, you know you you. Proceed accordingly,

1075
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 2: so yeah it's it's going to, be interesting uh interesting

1076
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 2: to see exactly what uh, you know what What the

1077
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 2: bengals decide, to do how they decide to. Do it

1078
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 2: they're all as. WE'VE shown i think there are a

1079
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 2: lot of very very good football players. Out there and

1080
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 2: it's not just a position. OR two i think it's

1081
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 2: a lot. Of positions in, this draft there is position

1082
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 2: death and, You know THAT'S why i think That. THE

1083
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 2: bengals i think they're going to make a lot of

1084
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 2: hay in, the, second, third fourth.

1085
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 3: FIFTH round i.

1086
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 2: Really do even if they stayed, the inn they stayed

1087
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 2: right where they are with, THEIR picks i think they're

1088
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 2: gonna make a lot. Of hay and then You Mentioned.

1089
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:35,439
Speaker 2: TREY henderson i guess that that's obviously. Big priority get

1090
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 2: that bad, boy done get. HIM signed, i mean, they

1091
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 2: said go out and see what kind of the kind

1092
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 2: of trade market there. Would be there's multiple teams out

1093
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 2: there that would Trade For. Trey henderson but they're not

1094
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 2: going to pay thirty million dollars a year to compensate

1095
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 2: them and the first round pick to have the the

1096
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 2: right to compensate them another thirdy you know that. Thirty

1097
00:59:56,320 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 2: million so you Know, the bengals you know they're not

1098
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 2: going to take a third, round pick or, you know

1099
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 2: even a second, round pick unless it's, real high whatever

1100
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 2: the case. May be both both it takes two. To

1101
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 2: tango both have to be satisfied with the with the.

1102
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 2: TRADE arrangement i don't think there's going to be A

1103
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 2: trade i think there's a trade market, out there there's,

1104
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 2: trade value there's a lot of teams see the Value In,

1105
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 2: tredy henderson but so Do, the bengals And the bengals

1106
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 2: have them, under contract and they in order to keep,

1107
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 2: Them happy i'd give them.

1108
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 3: Fifteen million i'd give them a. Signing bonus.

1109
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 2: Fifteen million he's at fifteen, point eight sixteen, point two

1110
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 2: somewhere in. That range get them up over. Thirty Million,

1111
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 2: say trey You're a. Bengal man we. Love you, you

1112
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 2: know we. Understand You, les cincinnati you love, your teammates

1113
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 2: you love, it here we love.

1114
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 3: You too, thirty.

1115
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 2: Million and then the next year bonus money, goes down the.

1116
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 2: Salaries arrives keep them around that thirty million dollars thirty

1117
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 2: to thirty low thirties compensation for. Multiple years keep one

1118
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 2: of the best, heads rushers if not, the best In

1119
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 2: The national football Here. IN cincinnati, i mean you can't

1120
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 2: let seventeen sacks, walk Because Like paul, brown said, you

1121
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 2: know they didn't, draft them but they got him in

1122
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 2: the trade and they've been instrumental in. His development he'll

1123
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 2: he'll verbalize that retain this.

1124
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 3: Dude man.

1125
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 2: Retain them and that's What the bengals have done a

1126
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 2: good job of with what they did in resigning some

1127
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 2: of these. Younger players dan they, identified them they, drafted

1128
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 2: them they developed them and.

1129
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 3: Retained Them, Joe Burrow JAMAR. Chase. T higgins YOU know

1130
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 3: gasicki a.

1131
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 2: Big contract, you know he came from, another team but

1132
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 2: they they developed him and. Retain him SAYING. With, Pj,

1133
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 2: HILL so i mean retaining people is the biggest is the.

1134
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 2: BIGGEST thing, i mean don't let a player go unless

1135
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 2: his playing abilities. Have diminished you know that then players

1136
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 2: cut themselves and that in. That scenario but don't don't

1137
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 2: don't let a player go because you've, been there responsible

1138
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 2: and how you've handled your, salary cap, you know and

1139
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 2: you have so much money in the last year or

1140
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 2: two of the contract that it's like it's inconceivable that

1141
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 2: you're able to fulfill.

1142
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 3: The obligation and the player.

1143
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 2: KNOWS too, i mean there are players out there now

1144
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 2: that one of the reasons they're, out there but one

1145
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 2: is age and the OTHER is i mean they are sorry.

1146
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:30,919
Speaker 2: Cap Casualties the bengals aren't. About That the bengals are

1147
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 2: all About What paul brown used to reference as a.

1148
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 2: Square deal if we, sign you we expect to. Fulfill

1149
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 2: it we expect you to fulfill your endo the bargain,

1150
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 2: as well and that's a. Square DEAL and I think

1151
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 2: bengal has done a pretty good job. OF that, i

1152
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 2: mean you got teams out there, sixty million sixty, six million,

1153
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 2: you know in, cap Jail the bengals, six million one

1154
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 2: of the least amounts In The National. Football league so

1155
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 2: they've done a pretty Good Job katie Blackburn and troy,

1156
01:02:56,640 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 2: And Everybody Paul, brown junior, you know managing the salary

1157
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 2: cap and not having. Ego contracts, irresponsible contracts you know

1158
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 2: that get a lot of publicity when they're, initially signed

1159
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 2: but in the end you. Get problems and those problems don't.

1160
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 2: Go away there's a hangover and. The hangover, you know when,

1161
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 2: you're drinking you get. A hangover eventually it. Goes away

1162
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 2: when you're irresponsible to these, ego contracts the hangover.

1163
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 3: Gets, worse man it doesn't. Go away it's a nightmare.

1164
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 1: All right time FOR the espn chime and My Best

1165
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: roger goodell imitation to get this officially on.

1166
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 3: The record.

1167
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 1: With the seventeenth pick in the twenty TWENTY Five, nfl

1168
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 1: Draft The cincinnati, Bengals select i'm.

1169
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 2: Gonna, you know you make a great argument for a

1170
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 2: lot of a lot, of Players but I'm Still i'm

1171
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 2: i'm gonna go with. MY man, I mean i know

1172
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 2: it's the former offense of lineman, in Me and i'll fully,

1173
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 2: admit It but i've grown to Love Will. Campbell Man

1174
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 2: but i'd be happy all the players that we threw. Out,

1175
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 2: there shoot every single one of them can help this.

1176
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 2: Football TEAM but i would like to see the big Boy. From, Elision,

1177
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 2: HONESTLY dan i don't think he's going to. BE there

1178
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 2: I think i think he'll. Be GONE but i think

1179
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 2: that's maybe one of the reasons that if he for

1180
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 2: some reason were to, be THERE would i would jump

1181
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 2: up and you'd have to put a harness on me

1182
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 2: to bring me back to. MY seat i jump up

1183
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 2: and run to that table to uh to make. That selection?

1184
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 1: All right my Pick Is. Derek harmon and this, is truly,

1185
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 1: for me the best player, available scenario because they've already

1186
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 1: devoted free agency dollars in draft capital on. Defensive tackles

1187
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 1: they RE Signed, bj hill THEY. Signed, tj slayton They

1188
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 1: drafted Jenkins and jackson. Last year do you want all

1189
01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 1: of those guys to play, this year but none of

1190
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 1: them is a high level. Pass Rusher derek harmon gives

1191
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 1: you the best hope of Having Your chris Jones Or,

1192
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 1: cam hayward who really creates havoc in the middle of the.

1193
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 1: Defensive line how much better would this defense be with

1194
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 1: a guy shrinking, the pocket, getting sacks, getting pressures batting.

1195
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 1: Down passes he's, Six' five he's, got long. Arms good

1196
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 1: athleticism if you want To Copy the Super, bowl champion

1197
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 1: eagles then build a. Dominant defensive line harmon would be a.

1198
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 1: Great first step he's my. GUY at seventeen i really

1199
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 1: Wanted To. TAKE malacky Starks I think al golden would

1200
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 1: love having that quarterback in the back. Of his secondary

1201
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 1: and even though you know he didn't run a great time,

1202
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 1: at the combine he ran a four. Five point forty

1203
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 1: he was really good in all of the other football

1204
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 1: drills in in terms, OF his Athleticism I think melachi

1205
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 1: starks is going, To Be great but i'm Settling In

1206
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 1: on derek harmon is my pick, at Number seventeen.

1207
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 3: And i'd be. Thrilled with that that would not.

1208
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 2: BOTHER me, WHATSOEVER i mean i do think that He's

1209
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 2: like the philadelphia eagleshould talk about they were too deep

1210
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 2: across the board in.

1211
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 3: Terms of waves.

1212
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 2: Of defensive linemen they throw in there and keep them

1213
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 2: fresh and just rush the hell out. Of the Quarterback

1214
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 2: and And derek harmon is is the best interior pass

1215
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 2: rusher in the draft, in my opinion because he's got

1216
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 2: the length like, you talk about plus he's he's, got

1217
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 2: a big big. TOOLBOX of, moves i mean he's not

1218
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 2: just a one trick pony In terms of i'm gonna. Bull,

1219
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 2: rush it okay, that's this week and then, The next

1220
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 2: week i'm going to just speed rush you on the

1221
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 2: edge of your shoulder.

1222
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 1: As a guard and.

1223
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 2: THE three, technique i mean he's he's got a myriad

1224
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 2: of things that he can he can go TO and

1225
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 2: AND i think i, think he, would he would he'd

1226
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 2: be a heck. Of a, pick and again like, we talked,

1227
01:06:56,360 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 2: ABOUT you KNOW i guess i can with four tongue

1228
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 2: a Little bit, because, i'm saying well they committed so

1229
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 2: many dollars offensively an, unrestricted free agency let's take care.

1230
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 2: Of the DEFENSE what am i doing as a, Former

1231
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 2: offensive lineman i've taken an interior offensive lineman BECAUSE that's

1232
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 2: where i.

1233
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 3: WOULD put him i, would draft him put him In

1234
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 3: a guard and my.

1235
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 2: Reasoning number nine you know he uh he got hit

1236
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 2: a lot last year. And he's courageous you'll hold the

1237
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 2: football as long as any Quarterback In The national football

1238
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 2: league in order to uh make sure that, that you know.

1239
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 2: Everything plays out he he is the master at finding

1240
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 2: something late uh And uh and i'm sure he drives.

1241
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 2: Defensive backs crazy and then you obviously he's got the

1242
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 2: athleticism to climb the pocket and get out of the

1243
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 2: pocket and uh roll to his right and left like.

1244
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 2: We talked, about, but, uh IF if if I Do

1245
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 2: take will campbell the final piece to solidify that that

1246
01:07:57,160 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 2: offense because like like we, were talking about the guard.

1247
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 2: POSITION needs help i do think that that's probably the

1248
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 2: biggest need on. The football, team and, unfortunately you know,

1249
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 2: For the defense i'm gonna take that guy to, fill

1250
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 2: that Need and then i've probably used every other pick.

1251
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 2: On the defense i'm gonna use a lot of the picks.

1252
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 2: On the defense there's no. Question about, THAT but. HONESTLY i.

1253
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:22,680
Speaker 3: Would i Would.

1254
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 2: There's and i'm Not Saying it's will campbell, or A bust,

1255
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 2: but i'm saying at some, point in time you know

1256
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:32,680
Speaker 2: that that is the area that that needs. To be

1257
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 2: Fulfilled if the bengals, Have You, Know Will, campbell malachi, starks,

1258
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 2: You Know uh derek harmon and a couple of other

1259
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,599
Speaker 2: guys in that, Grouping of five i'd be good with any.

1260
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 2: Of Those guys and i'm sure they. WOULD Be too

1261
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 2: U and, Like i said I'm. Not sure Will If

1262
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:54,519
Speaker 2: if will campbell would, Would be there i'd be. Right

1263
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:56,680
Speaker 2: all back i'd like to light the cigar man THAT

1264
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 2: right after.

1265
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 1: I picked him we agree that number one thing they've

1266
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 1: got to come away with as. As Starting guard but

1267
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 1: i've been overdosing on mock draft SIMULATORS and what i

1268
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 1: found lap IS that when i went defense in round

1269
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 1: one and a guard, IN round two i still. Had

1270
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 1: GREAT options when i took a guard in round one

1271
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 1: and then looked for a defense difference maker in, THE

1272
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:21,919
Speaker 1: second round i wasn't quite as happy. With The outcome

1273
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 1: so I'm going with harmon, In round one starks, if

1274
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 1: he's gone and THEN hoping That I, Get Donovan jackson

1275
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 1: Jonas avoy And Aya or tate ratledge as my guard.

1276
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 3: In, round Two.

1277
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 2: Yeah and i'd be very happy with. THAT as well

1278
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 2: i do think that the two rookie interior defensive linemen

1279
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 2: that they took in the second and third, ROUND last

1280
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:52,719
Speaker 2: Year i think. Jenkins being healthy, i'm telling you trying

1281
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 2: to rush the pastor with a big old cast on your.

1282
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 2: HAND is, impossible i mean your hand used to just

1283
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 2: done using, the one hand and they're using. Two against

1284
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 2: you it's it's not. A FAIR fight SO i Think, i,

1285
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 2: think jenkins uh he didn't really, show his. ARSENAL you

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01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 2: know i think he's a significant. Pass rusher inside but,

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01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 2: with that said you can never have. Enough of them

1288
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 2: you want as many as you. Can Possibly get McKinley

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01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 2: jackson more of, a run, stuffer you know to gapper,

1290
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:26,720
Speaker 2: kind of guy and you can never have enough. Of

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01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 2: those either so we we've talked for, a while here

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01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 2: but coming all, the way, around circling back what are?

1293
01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 2: We talking about interior offensive. And defensive lineman just the

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01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 2: way we, started the podcast we, Came, full circle dan

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01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 2: and here we are coming right, back to that to

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01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:50,879
Speaker 2: that point of Importance For, the cincinnati bengals and. They've addressed,

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01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 2: it you know in free agency they signed an interior lineman.

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01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:57,640
Speaker 2: Offensively and defensively they got to address it in the,

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01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 2: draft AS well, and i think uh THEY should and

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01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 2: i think they will address.

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01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 3: It multiple times. Like we're describing we.

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01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 1: Will Be together On Thursday At pai corpse stadium for

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01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:12,600
Speaker 1: a draft party for. SEASON ticket members i know you

1304
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 1: have something fun in store the Following, night on friday

1305
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 1: along With the first star logistics for the second and

1306
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 1: third rounds. Of the draft tell me a little bit

1307
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:21,639
Speaker 1: about what's.

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01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 2: Going, on there yeah this will be the third annual

1309
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:28,679
Speaker 2: Draft Party For. First start logistics we're gonna be At a. Great,

1310
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 2: american ballpark Uh In the red stadium obviously is.

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01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:32,760
Speaker 3: Where.

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01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 2: We'll be uh we're Going To Have andre yosi vash

1313
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:41,360
Speaker 2: will be a special, guest FOR us and uh, he'll,

1314
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 2: be Interviewing. Uh interviewing andre we've got other other guests as. Well,

1315
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 2: lined Up Uh. There's eric all we'll be there to

1316
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 2: talk about what's going on with him and one unfortunate

1317
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:56,759
Speaker 2: thing that he's not going to be able to play

1318
01:11:57,160 --> 01:12:00,599
Speaker 2: the upcoming, season as well that that's. Just been determined,

1319
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:03,720
Speaker 2: but a man, you talk about a guy that h

1320
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 2: was on, a career path his trajector is going straight

1321
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 2: up and. That's the thing the biggest Variable In The

1322
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:16,520
Speaker 2: national football league's injury you have no, control over whatsoever

1323
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:20,599
Speaker 2: and that is. The biggest Variable so hopefully eric all

1324
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 2: is uh is going to be able to rehab well

1325
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 2: and and come back and perform for the level that

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01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 2: he had, been performing, at because man he was a

1327
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 2: factor not only in, the passing game but they were

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01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 2: doing things with him in the running, game as well

1329
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 2: and they were creating formations to. UTILIZE his, talents, i

1330
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 2: Mean uh he's, he's an impressive impressive young. Man for

1331
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 2: sure so we're gonna have other other special, guests as well,

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01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 2: and and uh it'll be. A good time i mean

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01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 2: it's from, seven to eleven uh down There a, great

1334
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:52,719
Speaker 2: American Ballpark and joe goodbury will be, There As well

1335
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 2: brad JOHANSSON. Will be mc we're gonna uh and and

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01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 2: other people That work with joe on his on the

1337
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 2: work that he does with respect to the draft and free,

1338
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 2: agency and everything we'll be there. On the, panel so

1339
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:10,679
Speaker 2: yeah it's going to be a full night of football

1340
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 2: for Sure on.

1341
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:13,719
Speaker 3: That friday night sounds.

1342
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 1: Like good stuff i've taken a bunch. OF your time i.

1343
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 1: Really appreciate it you are spending time. With your family

1344
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 1: have a safe Trip, back TO cincinnati and i will

1345
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 1: see You at Pay. CORPS on thursday i.

1346
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:27,680
Speaker 3: Look, forward, to it sir have the best day.

1347
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 1: You ever, had once, Again this year i'll be posting

1348
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 1: podcasts after each day, of the draft so when you

1349
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:37,759
Speaker 1: get up, the next morning you'll hear from the players moments.

1350
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:40,679
Speaker 1: After they're picked you'll hear what the coaches are, saying

1351
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 1: about them and you'll Get analysis. From lapping me that's

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