1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Sunday Hang is brought to you by Chalk Natural Supplements 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: for guys, gals, and nothing in between. Fuel your day 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: at Chalk dot com, bold reverence, and occasionally random The 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: Sunday Hang with Playing Fuck podcast it starts now. It's 5 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: gone megaviral there and I feel bad for the short 6 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: dudes out there that are gonna have to hear this, 7 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: but you all know it to be true. We always 8 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: talk about like the privilege pyramid, or you know, they 9 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: always want to say, oh, white privilege. You and I Buck, 10 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: I think are in agreement that the number one privilege 11 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: in America today is pretty girl privilege. Right, if you 12 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: are a good looking woman, you are automatically elevated above 13 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: everybody else, no matter what your your gender is, no 14 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: matter what your wealth is. That I think is the 15 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: number one privilege in America today. I would say that 16 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: the thing that men are most judged for is actually 17 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: more significant and more anti privileged than anything that women 18 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 1: are judged for. And that is what the data has 19 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: shown on the dating apps. Women will not date short men. 20 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: And I'll give you an example of this from my 21 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: own life. My wife Laura. We have been married for 22 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: twenty one years. Almost twenty one years, and I asked 23 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: her once, she's five to two. Let me repeat that 24 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: she is five to two. I said, would you have 25 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: dated me if I were five eight? She said, no, 26 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: probably not. She's five to two. Buck she could wear heels, 27 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: and if I were five to eight I would still 28 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: be clearly quite significantly taller than her, unless they're the 29 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: craziest heels ever. She is, I'm seven. I'm six foot 30 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: all right, So I have been good spot there. But 31 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: then you confessed that your own wife, who you just 32 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: had a baby with, confess to you what about height situations? 33 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: I was the I was the bottom of the acceptable. 34 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: I am also six feet. By the way, Clay and 35 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: I are the same height. I mean, depends on how 36 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: swooped my hair or his hair is in any given day. 37 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: But we're thein certainly like a half inch of each other, 38 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: and we stand up back to back, we're both about 39 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: six feet tall. Okay. My wife has told me, she's like, yeah, 40 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: you're basically like you. It was like I was, you know, 41 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: when they do the tall enough for the ride at 42 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: the amusement park, I was tall. I was just barely 43 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: tall enough to date, so she almost eliminated you for 44 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: not being How tall is your wife? Oh, she's five three? 45 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: I mean you've her are basically in other words, yes, 46 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: my wife's five two years about five three. I understand 47 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: for women out there, if you're like five to nine, 48 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: I understand why you might want to date a guy taller. 49 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: This is not our sitution. We need to set some 50 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: we need to set some parameters in everybody. And there's 51 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: a bigger conversation or two, which is that marriage formation 52 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: is down. A lot of guys are and a lot 53 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: of women are taking themselves out of this sort of 54 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: marriage formation pool. There are a lot of people who are, uh, 55 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: you know, not pairing up who say they want to. 56 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about you. If you if you choose 57 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: you don't want to do it. If you want to 58 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: become a monk. Okay, wait, there's always exceptions, So please 59 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: don't call and be like I have been living in 60 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: a monastery for thirteen years. I love this life. It's 61 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 1: like I get it, okay, But for most people, we're 62 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: going to exclude a few things. Because this is my 63 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: friend Jedediah Bilah was the one who shared out the 64 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: data on this one and Jedediah. She likes to you know, 65 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: you know, she was on the View, she was on 66 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: Fox for many years. She uh, she you know, likes 67 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: to sort of give it, give it tough to both sides, 68 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: I would say, And in terms of the dating and 69 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: the social stuff, you know, to the guys the girls. 70 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: And she just pointed this out that there's there's the 71 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: data has a real there's a real problem with this 72 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: data now. And I want to argue that this is 73 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: a new thing. I think it is a new thing, 74 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: relative relatively new thing. Here's women who are saying I 75 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: won't date a guy shorter than me, that I get 76 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: so much so that I would say, I I think 77 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: maybe once or twice I was on a date with 78 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: a woman who was base basically my height. Didn't like it. 79 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: I didn't like it. I'm just a preference thing. Everybody. 80 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: You could say, that's I just I'm not. I wouldn't 81 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: dat a woman who's six to two, you know, like 82 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean she's not attractive, but I wouldn't want 83 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: a data a woman who's taller than me. Yeah, like, 84 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to feel like she could 85 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: beat me in a game of one. On one. You 86 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, I just this is not 87 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: really what I'm looking for. So but but we're not 88 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: talking about that. The data shows that eighty five percent 89 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: of women online. Let me repeat this, eighty five percent 90 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: of women have a problem with and don't want to 91 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: date a man who is uh five eight or shorter. 92 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: And five eight is a very interesting metric because that 93 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: is average height. Basically, right, it's five eight, five nine. 94 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: It is like the average guy's height. Mar I mean, okay, yeah, 95 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: maybe it's five nine, but like that is average male height. Yes, 96 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: eighty five percent of women online say that they will 97 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: not date a guy who is average or less than 98 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: average height. And that excludes all other factors. I'm just 99 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: gonna say it. There's also a thing where men online 100 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: it's a in terms of their rating of attractiveness of women. 101 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: It's a bell curve. They think, you know, if they 102 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 1: think twenty percent of women, they're really not you know, 103 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 1: twenty percent. Twenty percent, Oh pretty good, I mean, and 104 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: it goes all the way up to oh my gosh, 105 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: twenty percent. Amazing like my dream woman. Right, women, it's 106 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: like seventy Again, this is the data. Don't argue with me. Okay, 107 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: I'll give you the citations. This is This is millions 108 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: and millions of swipes and data on bumble, on Okay, Cupid, 109 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: on all the don't don't So don't call in and 110 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: say well, I'm short or I'm tall, and no, no, there's 111 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: a This is about what's happening in the aggregate millions 112 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: and millions of times across the country. Clay, I just 113 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: got so excited I forgot where I will. But this 114 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: is in Dick my argument. I'm gonna take get even 115 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: further than you. So if you're angry about anything, you 116 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: should reach out to Buck because he's responsible for all 117 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: of these opinions. I actually think women, Oh I'm sorry 118 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: real quick, just I don't want to women. Basically, women 119 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: think that like ten to fifteen percent of men are 120 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: good looking and all other men are ugly. That's what 121 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: the data actually shows, which is insane. Again, men, it's 122 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: a bell curve. Men live in the reality here of 123 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: like you know. And and also they're far more willing 124 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: to go on a date women. Now I understand biologically, 125 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: you don't have to explain this. Jordan Peterson could show 126 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: up and tell me like I get it. They have 127 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: to be choosier, and there's a different thing and there's 128 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 1: a different imperative with that. Fine, but eighty percent of 129 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: guys are not ugly. You know, this is crazy. So 130 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: I think women are more This is nobody will tell 131 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: you this. I think I'm right on this. I think 132 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: women are more selective of men in terms of what 133 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: they must have than men are of women. In other words, 134 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 1: let me explain this clip that one and share that 135 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: one out team like it. Here's my theory on this. 136 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: Guys will fall in love with particular body parts on women. 137 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: This is one. Every guy has got a guy also 138 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: their personalities clay, Okay, I'm talking about the first time 139 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: they see them. Every guy has a friend who is 140 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: obsessed with long legs. Every guy has a friend who 141 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: likes butts. Every guy has a friend and he cannot lie. Yes, 142 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: every guy has a friend who like likes boops. Other 143 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: guys are like, I don't even care about anything else. 144 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: All I want is a really, really pretty face. And 145 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: you'll hear be like that girl weighs three hundred pounds, 146 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: be like, yeah, but she's got a really pretty face. 147 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: Like there are guys. Whatever attribute you have as a woman. 148 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: There are guys out there that are into it. There 149 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: are people buck who love feet. I don't even understand this, 150 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: Like have you seen her ankles? No, no, it's not 151 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: eighteen forty a little bit of a different category's feet. 152 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: I think there's the guys back in the day. By 153 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: the way, this is funny. Do you know what was 154 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: considered scandalous in the I used to give tours of 155 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: the United States Capitol when I was in college. It 156 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: was considered scandalous. This is amazing because the people who 157 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: would sit in the gallery at the Senate and at 158 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: the House. Do you know how women would get men's 159 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: attention who were on like the congressmen and the senators. 160 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: How would they be alluring to show a little ankle? 161 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: Is this like Saudi Arabia? They would show their ankles 162 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: and the men below would look up and they would 163 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: be like, that is the best looking I'm kidding about this. 164 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: Like Sam Houston back in the day, he's on the 165 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: h he's on the floor there, Davy Crockett. They would 166 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 1: they would be talking off off the off the floor. 167 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 1: They'd be like, did you see the set of ankles 168 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 1: on Tilda in the front row of the of the 169 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 1: House of represent I'm telling you this is men. There 170 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 1: are men who are into everything. I don't think there 171 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: is an equivalent for women like the height thing. If 172 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: you are I'm sorry, if you are short and bald, 173 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: you better have an incredible job. You better be you 174 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: better be killing it because a lot of women out 175 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: there are like, yeah, I don't like his hair. He 176 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: doesn't have any hair. I mean, this was the George 177 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,239 Speaker 1: Costanza thing back in the day. There is no equivalent 178 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: for women of the short bald man. And this ties 179 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: in on your point about the whole dating app world 180 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: has created an artificial worldview, Buck, I've been talking about this. 181 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,479 Speaker 1: I can't get over it. There are tons of successful 182 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 1: women out there who are choosing because they can't find 183 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: a man. They are going to sperm donors and they're 184 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: flipping through just picking a non actual human right that 185 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: they're going to interact with to have a baby with. 186 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: The person is a human, but they're never going to 187 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: interact with him based solely on the data on the page, Like, hey, 188 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: he got a fifteen hundred on the SAT and he 189 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: went to ya, and he's six too, and he's got 190 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: blue eyes and hair. That's my guy and you never 191 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: meet him because you're trying to create a version of 192 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: a man that you can't meet in real life. But 193 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: also the height thing, is it diminishing returns to like 194 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: do seven footers clean out? I think it's a diminishing return. 195 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 1: I think most women would say that the ideal height 196 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: window is like six foot to six four. After six' 197 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: four you become too tall and awkward and gangly for. 198 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: Them they want like six foot to sixty. Four this 199 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: is me analyzing, women and then you get too. Tall 200 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: but to your, POINT i saw you tweet, this AND 201 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: i do think it's the most important aspect here is 202 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: it's the only. THING i guess baldness is the. Other 203 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: height and baldness are the only thing you can judge 204 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: someone for that they virtually have no control. Over if 205 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: a guy's, like, HEY i was gonna date, her but she's, 206 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: fat people would be, like, oh can you get a 207 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 1: load to? Him like if a guy on a dating 208 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 1: app wrote, no girls would be, like you can control your. 209 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: Weight on some, LEVEL i was reading this morning the. 210 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: Buck they now have the what's the peptides or? Whatever 211 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: the glue the glue, tides whatever that thing is that. Glph, 212 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: yeah did you See Eli lilly announced today they now 213 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: have it in pill. Form you're not even gonna have 214 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: to inject yourself on that stuff. Anymore you can just 215 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: take a pill which will guarantee that you lose weight 216 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: and eat less and everything. Else but you can work 217 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: to and change everything by and, large except for, hair 218 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: and except for. Height and it's the things women care. 219 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: About here's. You you've lined this. UP i think that 220 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: height is the most superficial metric that a person can care. 221 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: About and yet all women have somehow become an you, 222 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: know all women have some AND i say all, WOMEN 223 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: i know not all of. You, okay some of you 224 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: are married to great guys who are five to, three 225 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: and that's. Wonderful but this has become a thing in our. 226 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: Culture AND i think this is my. Theory it's because 227 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 1: we're all sort of metrics and online. Obsessed. Now it's 228 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 1: about social. Media it's about posting your you, know your 229 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: boyfriend or your husband On instagram and he towers over. 230 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: You and, like there's this sense CAUSE i DON'T i 231 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: understand wanting a partner to be. FIT i understand wanting 232 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: a partner to be smart or to have an attractive 233 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: face all that. Stuff of, course this is, dating this is, 234 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,599 Speaker 1: mating that's how it. Goes but to be, LIKE i, 235 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 1: mean there's actually a meme that was going or a 236 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: little videos going around then it was of someone who 237 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: was like a woman and she's, saying you, know he's six,' four, 238 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: criminal record, no problem Speaks, no english no problem like 239 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: and even the DIFFERENCE between i think it was six 240 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: one and six', four was, like you, Know six' one 241 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: i'll deal with Your annoying and i'll deal with an 242 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: annoying mother in law, Like six one i'll. But six,' 243 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: four you know you may. Be AN axe murderer but 244 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: i think we. Still have a drink so are we? 245 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 1: Crazy on this one let's take some calls some of. 246 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:52,599 Speaker 1: Ladies on this one do you agree with us or do? 247 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 2: You? 248 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 3: Think? 249 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: This is this is are you seeing this those you have? 250 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: Daughters or? Granddaughters too is it is it bigger among? 251 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: Them than, it was i'm like you think about like 252 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 1: a lot of the, Biggest Actors, five eight tom, cruise like, five, 253 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: seven you know, yeah this is ay but they have 254 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: women that make them look. Bigger than, they are. So 255 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: Yes It's, true like tom cruise some of. THESE guys 256 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: are little i think the big best point you made 257 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: is this is, What the data shows like the. Anecdote 258 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: doesn't really matter i'm sure there are, exceptions to the 259 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: data but it's actually quite CLEAR that, women are i 260 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: think more judgmental of men's physical appearances than men. ACTUALLY 261 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: are of women i saw a. Funny meme yesterday, too 262 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 1: by the way, on the same level how much have 263 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 1: you read buck Over the years about, barbie and, unrealistic 264 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: uh you know like, physical expectations, For Women YOU. Know 265 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: tom barby k have you ever seen an Article about 266 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: like he man or or Any number. Of basically superman 267 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: superheros have you ever seen a story About how unrealistic 268 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: he man's Body type and like, superman's body type is 269 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: and how it is so destructive to young men Who 270 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: know because he man would have to be on massive 271 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: doses of it's impossible, to A large extent like. Barbie's 272 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: body is impossible i've, never, seen anyone argue oh this, 273 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: Is unfortunate for men like how in the world can they? 274 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: Get out of bed. THEY have unrealistic expectations i think 275 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: we have a one way street on. A lot of 276 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: this we are Deluged with responses after, buck shared the 277 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: data which is true that women are horribly. Discriminating against 278 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: short men and if in fact you wanted, to talk 279 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: about privilege maybe, number one pretty privilege maybe, number TWO 280 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: hype privilege because i think it. Goes across race gender, 281 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: for men in particular can you think of something, where, 282 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: you'd be like hey what's more valuable than being? Six foot, 283 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: OR taller, for men, I mean obviously intelligence i'm talking. 284 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: ABOUT just physical attributes i think, you probably go, HEIGHT 285 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: and for women i think You probably go pretty and 286 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: those are, probably the two biggest. Best most valuable, assets 287 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: now for men you could also say there are, things, 288 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: you work for. Right Wealth obviously factors and ali has 289 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: been saying off air that she thinks this is just 290 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: straight biology because historically women have wanted bigger men because 291 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: they protect them better. Than SMALLER men do and i 292 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: think that's, probably true on average not to say you 293 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: can't be five to, four and YOU know an incredible 294 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: ufc fighter back in the day, in the caveman era 295 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: but probably being six four goliath styles probably a little bit. More, Of, 296 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: an advantage yeah yes perhaps it's interesting to see that 297 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: you know a lot, of women are actually as we 298 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: see the listeners weighing, in on, this, One they're Like 299 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: look i'm not i'm not picky about a man's a. 300 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: Man's you know HAIR amn's this that i don't? NEED a, 301 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: six PACK i don't but i do. Have a height 302 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: requirement so many women. Have a height REQUIREMENT this. IS 303 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: what I mean i. Think i've perfect that what you were 304 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: saying is your wife is five to three. Minus five 305 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: to two both of them have told us they would 306 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: have dated us if. We were, five eight well no 307 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: and then clearly we both just barely were tall enough for. 308 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: THE amusement park ride i do there is no. Male 309 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: equivalent to this there. IS no male equivalent i don't think, 310 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: to women's height again because, men like, tall women, short women. 311 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: Big women small women, like whatever you are there is 312 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: a man out there that will be. In LOVE with, 313 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: YOU like i said i still love the, idea we 314 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: come back we'll update you, on everything going on and 315 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: we'll take your calls and. We'll HAVE some fun but 316 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: i still love the idea of back in the eighteen 317 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: hundred's the ankle thing on the on the balcony overlooking, 318 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: this is how men are you? Got a great Ankle 319 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: we'll find You sunday Hang. With, clay and bucks ali 320 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: You are married to gerard, and He is FABULOUS and 321 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: buck and i are both very. Big fans of His? 322 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: How tall is girard. 323 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 3: Gerard is, Six' four six'? 324 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 4: Four? 325 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: AND how tall are? 326 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 3: You ally, i am five three? 327 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 2: All right you are. 328 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: Five three we have said prior. My wife is five 329 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: to two. Buck's wife is five to three that both 330 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: of them have told us, that if we were five 331 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: eight we would not have been their dating. PARTNER and 332 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: not their married, partner i will, Say, this too by 333 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: the way black. My mom is five to. FOUR my 334 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: dad is six three i bet if, MY dad HAD 335 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 1: been five. Eight i bet i wouldn't. EXIST just tossing 336 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: that out there i have never asked my mom if 337 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 1: she would have dated. Him if he was. Five eight 338 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: she may be. Listening She, can Let me know but ali, 339 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: if gerard had been five eight would you have ever 340 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: started dating him? As? A, five foot? 341 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 3: THREE woman oh wow you too i was Also. Attracted to? 342 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 3: Other things about gerard. 343 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: Uh, huh if he was five? 344 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 5: Eight? 345 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 1: Would you? Have? Dated him, yes, FIVE six oh MY 346 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: goodness yes i think she's. I think she's lying TO 347 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: us i think because when i brought this up as 348 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: we went to break at, the end of the. Last, Hour, She, 349 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: FIVE to four, Oh clay oh. I can answer. THERE'S 350 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: no way. THERE'S no Way, i don't believe i think. Ali, 351 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: He was Under six feet ali. I'LL get I'LL give 352 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 1: you this i don't. I understand like male. Female dynamic 353 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 1: i understand if women although some women don't mind if 354 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: a guy who there are women who don't mind if 355 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: a guy, shorter than especially if they're like if you're six, foot, 356 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: tall woman now in heels, right you're six? Three ish 357 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: right probably six three would you rather be a super? Tall, 358 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: WOMAN or a short man oh i think you. Had 359 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 1: to choose super tall woman you'd rather be a six 360 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 1: foot five woman than. LIKE a, Five to four man 361 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 1: i mean i'm identifying now as a six foot. SIX 362 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: here five women would be i mean that's like A 363 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: you're like bigger THAN a wnba center at that I think. 364 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: THAT aren't the w, nba center i mean you're like 365 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: you're a giant woman if, you're, like, SIX two or 366 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: bigger like right i mean that's. Very very right for 367 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: a woman it's. Like being a, SEVEN foot man SO 368 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: you know i think, it's i, think it's you know 369 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: women anyway some. WOMEN will DATE short of them i 370 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: DON'T i understand a woman saying i don't want to. Date, 371 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: a guy shorter than me again what the data shows 372 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: is that women like an amusement park ride, have in 373 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: their minds at least and it shows that they act 374 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: on this when it comes to. Online dating a height, 375 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: cut off. 376 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 3: And every nature show every nature show you watch shows 377 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 3: the species, and how they attract each other and the 378 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,239 Speaker 3: male birds will puff up and the lizards. Will, make 379 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 3: their gills Go larger. 380 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 6: Whatever you know, what i'm saying but. 381 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: To, me that's that's, that's like muscles that's you know that's. 382 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 1: Maybe if, you like someone's eyes you. Know there's all 383 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: these physical attributes but for it seems to me that 384 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: height for. WOMEN for, male physical ali question i Mean 385 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: this is not fair because gerard has a. Six pack 386 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: and a six. Fourth THIS is gonna get up And, 387 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: I would really, if if Gerard i don't know. Wet'll 388 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: take gerard out of this if you if you have 389 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: to pick for A guy height, six' four or gerard level, 390 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: Physique what are, we going for. 391 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 3: Here oh my goodness all, if, WE'RE just going purely 392 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 3: off Physical yeah, i suppose the fitness because i'm okay. 393 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: So she would go with the. FITNESS that Makes more 394 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: sense to me i think ali IS in a distinct 395 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 1: minority there because i think most women, they, JUST they. 396 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: THERE'S this Height, Thing dude i have. I have clay 397 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: i'm six feet tall i have come, across women, who 398 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: have basically been like you know, almost like they're, doing 399 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: me a favor like you bait LIKE you Just, this 400 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: IS obviously before i met, carrie but i Was Single. 401 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: For many MANY years in, new york, they're like i, 402 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: Kind of YOU know grandfathered you in like if i had, 403 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: known you, WEREN'T quite like. Six' two you know i is, 404 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 1: Wild and they're very open about this too like they 405 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: don't because because it's So objective that they don't FEEL 406 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: bad saying it's not like, they're like i wish, you 407 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: were better looking like that's just mean but. Like you're, 408 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: a little on the short side for. Me they't just 409 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: say it to your face. 410 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 6: But you know what. 411 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 3: Really sealed the, deal for me is, humor PERSONALITY And humor, 412 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 3: like funny is underrated like. 413 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: I you're, like you're like. An emotionally stable spiritually wholesome. 414 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: Very kind person you Know. You're all right you know 415 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: we need ali he's an outlier for like. Like depth, 416 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: and in as a human being would say a. LOT 417 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: of people who are superficial out there. I think that's 418 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: top three, for most women, i THINK height is one 419 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: money is two and i think more women will admit. 420 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: To the height thing than the money thing there's not. 421 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: A lot of rich guys with ugly women i'm just 422 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 1: saying it has not happened very often that you see. 423 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: A super rich guy, WITH an unattractive one but here 424 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 1: here's again. I understand. Why you want a rich guy 425 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 1: i understand i'm not saying that, that it's not superficial 426 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: or that you know we, don't wish that there was 427 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 1: romance beyond that but being able to PROVIDE unless a 428 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: guy is playing in the nba OR, is like a 429 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: tight end in. The nfl him BEING six six. Means 430 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 1: nothing this is. WHAT i don't UNDERSTAND but WOMEN love 431 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 1: This i. LOVES total i think i. THINK ali's right 432 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: i think it's total biology i think historically the bigger 433 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: gorilla was able to, prot hecked THE female gorilla from 434 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: smaller gorillas and so i think biologically women are attracted 435 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: to bigger men. Because they have the ABILITY. To protect 436 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 1: clay biologically they LOOK at ufc but see. This is 437 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: WHERE i get look at you at most ufc fighters 438 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 1: are are almost all of them are five eight to 439 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 1: six one or six. Two like the, very FEW that 440 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: are tall certainly very. ARBITRARY but i think this is straight, 441 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: biology i think it's, just, like caveman, days if you 442 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: were bigger stronger and faster you were more likely to 443 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: be able to kill. A ANIMAL and provide for the 444 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: female baby. Average, UFC fighter height. IS five to ten 445 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: yeah i, just. 446 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 3: Yeah sot documentaries, also point out lions lions the male 447 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 3: lion the bigger main ATTRACT the female with the. 448 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: F the, Main i, get a little more i'm like 449 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: I'M like a great. Main is something That i. CAN 450 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: get behind you KNOW what i'm saying i. Think it's, 451 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: just i think it's just power and historically the, more 452 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: like size you had as a. Man the, more power 453 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: you tended To have Like, Listen? Do we still have 454 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: david in Scottsdale, arizona is he a. Short, guy calling in. We've, Ruined, 455 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: his day no he's six three? Okay, david, What have you, 456 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: got for. 457 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 5: Us hi guys. I'm six three my girlfriend's five to 458 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 5: two one of. The first things she said is two 459 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 5: things she almost didn't date me because she felt. Bad 460 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 5: that she was taking a tall person but the big 461 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:33,479 Speaker 5: thing is her tall girlfriends do. Not like short girls taking. 462 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: THE tall guy oh that's an interesting point i hadn't 463 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 1: even thought about the anger. That short girl with tall 464 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: guy can provoke because if you're five to nine chick 465 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 1: and your girlfriend who's five, TO three takes. THE six 466 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: to two guy i get it i Do think there's something. 467 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: To your argument buck in. And INSTAGRAMMABLE age everybody wants 468 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 1: the perfect photo and i think there's a lot, of 469 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: girls out there and they, wear heels and they're wearing 470 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: a fancy dress and they're going to a cocktail, party 471 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: or they're going to. A you know formal event of 472 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: some sort they don't want to post a photo standing 473 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: next to a guy who's shorter than them because they think. 474 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 1: IT doesn't make the photo look as good i think. 475 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: THAT is in the industry part of it i think 476 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: that's even that is my that is my thesis that 477 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: social media and online dating has created this like. Rush 478 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: rush Of interest In, The. Height, situation, We got, walker 479 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: in augusta, georgia. 480 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 2: Hey guys hey guys love the show and hearing you. 481 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 2: Guys Talk today remind me. OF the story so i'm 482 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 2: retired law ENFORCEMENT i WAS on twenty two years on 483 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 2: swad and i was the team leader and we had, 484 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 2: a business guy, that basically, sponsored our team, gave us that, 485 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 2: you know for extra equipment stuff like that. And we 486 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 2: invited him out to the range he was shooting with us. 487 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 2: And we were Standing around the amo table we were 488 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 2: jamming mags, waiting for the next iteration to come on. 489 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 2: And we're all like six too, and taller all of 490 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 2: us are big dudes and he is five To Six 491 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 2: and he's standing there and. He's gavin mags and, He's 492 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 2: looking looking around, he looks and said i'll, tell you 493 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 2: WHAT y'all are some big, Guys but if i stay. 494 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 2: On my wallet i'm, six, six like that. And we 495 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 2: all said, yes you're exactly right and. To that fact he, 496 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 2: has A Hot wife i'm not gonna lie and i. 497 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: Becu's here's what we call in the culture. He's what 498 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: we call walker a short king that is what the millennials. 499 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 1: And gen z. Now he's a short. King that's really funny, 500 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: that's a great line and by the way is there 501 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 1: something too short guy being driven to be far more 502 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: successful than tall guy because he knows that he has 503 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: to be economically successful to get the best looking. Girl 504 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 1: in a, way that tall guy doesn't in other words 505 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: it's tall guy lazy, because if you're six to two or, 506 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: whatever you have that height advantage for, You and five 507 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 1: to six guy. Is like i'm gonna do all the work. 508 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put in all the extra, time, maybe that? 509 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: Would actually make some sense right, Are, There here's a 510 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 1: way to. Test it buck this would be actually fascinating 511 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: HOW much correlation is there between super wealth i don't mean. 512 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 1: LIKE you know you're making a good living. I mean 513 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: like you're a hedge fund guy how much correlation is 514 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 1: there between hedge fund guy like you're making tens of millions? 515 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: Of dollars a year and average height guy are hedge 516 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: fund guy's taller? OR shorter on average than like finance 517 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: bureau i want to get to we haven't had a 518 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 1: lady on the on the phone lines, yet we got? 519 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: So much coming, and though what's, so funny what you 520 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: know we're Sitting here we're talking, about Like saving the republic. 521 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: And you know the constitution and birthright citizenship we get some, calls. 522 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: We talk, about, HEID and DATING kaboom everybody everybody's, Like 523 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: well I Gotta, i gotta tell? You. Jerrolynn in los 524 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: angeles what's going, on jerrolyn. 525 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 6: It's funny that you mentioned that but because i've tried 526 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 6: so many, times to get on the AIR with y'all and. 527 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 2: This IS the. 528 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 6: Time i made it true but I. Do It's about women. 529 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 6: Dating short. Man ali producer ali's absolutely correct it's, evolutionary 530 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 6: women are attracted to, providers, and protectors and generally that means, 531 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 6: bigger stronger taller men who can, protect us and men 532 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 6: are attracted to readers which is where the thirty six 533 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 6: twenty four to thirty six. Bus, TO waste to hip, Ratio. 534 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 6: COMES in however i think you're wrong buck i think 535 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 6: More women are as, absolutely EVOLVED as producer ali than 536 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 6: you think because i think, More, Women, WILL compromise on 537 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 6: things like oh. 538 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: Jerrolyn jerrolyn i love where your head's going hold on 539 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: the data that. The data does not support what you're. Saying, 540 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: so where do you think people. Compromise now you're absolutely right. 541 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 6: ABOUT the data that's one HUNDRED percent true I just 542 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 6: think that you're, I think if i'm, On a, DATING 543 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 6: app i'm A. Divorced woman i'm forty, i, live in. 544 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 6: La i'm attracted to big strong manly men BUT. There's 545 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 6: only that, Many Of, them in la, By the way 546 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 6: henry cavill if you're listening i've been waiting for you, 547 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 6: to knock on my Door For several years. 548 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: Just coming toosing. HE'S henry, cavill, Is, a mallugiin for, 549 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: sure i agree yes. 550 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 6: Yeah that's your comparison that's. Your, STANDARD of beauty that 551 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 6: you compared to now i you're right that you never, 552 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 6: see a rich man with an ugly woman but you 553 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 6: will see a, beautiful woman, With, an ugly man very 554 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 6: often of course church because there are a lot of 555 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 6: women who are smart enough to realize they need, to 556 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 6: be dating somebody who's a good communicator who is, not 557 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 6: too cocky to be a poor mate who is reliable 558 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 6: and going to be, a steady partner to raise, the 559 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 6: CHILDREN with than somebody who's, simply hot and i think 560 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 6: it's again evolutionary evolutionary that men are attracted to beautiful. Women, 561 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 6: MORE than. 562 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: Women are attracted to her okay i don't i'm. NOT 563 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: going to do like the, evolutionary thing i actually agree 564 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: with a lot a. LOT of what she had to. 565 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: Say there, i think she's nailed. A bunch you, know 566 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: she's A very. Ajournalin you're very astute very high, q 567 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: listener we have so many of. Them and we appreciate 568 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: when you. Call in but let me ask you this 569 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: do you agree with the thesis that height has become 570 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: far more of a Focus? Among women in the dating 571 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: pool in america listen, it was say twenty or thirty 572 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: years ago because, That's, really my thesis is that online dating. 573 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: Instagram social media has made this a thing whereas you used, 574 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: to not be able to say six. FOOT some women say. 575 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: SIX two and above i know that, Exists i, THINK THAT. 576 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 6: It's always been important so. NO i i don't need 577 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 6: some more important i think now we just. Have the, Data, to, 578 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,239 Speaker 6: Prove that it's important all right. 579 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: Well jerln i'm just gonna tell you something IF, you're 580 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: if you're a single lady in la you set you, 581 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: set the if you're, on a dating app not making any, 582 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: assumptions but if you're on, a dating app you set that, 583 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: that uh that filter to. Five eight plus you're gonna, 584 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: get short. Kings just it's gonna be great you know 585 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: just just let. Those Short kings make, their pitch, to 586 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: you and. I'm telling you, YOU know, you'll call, IN 587 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: you'd be LIKE i got you know i found my. I, 588 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: Found in the love of my life anyway that's that's 589 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: my little Bit of a a Little. Bit of a 590 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: sunday drap with. Clean BUCK really more of just a 591 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: thesis and I Have, to give CREDIT to my friend 592 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: jedediah bila who's now u Launched her podcast You Know 593 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: her from the. View and from fox. News for many 594 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: years she, shared some data it's not even new data 595 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,959 Speaker 1: but IT'S come up in conversation with people that i know, lately, 596 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: that women are let's, just say it okay when, we 597 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: say women we're speaking in generalities here but something like eighty, 598 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: five percent of women won't date a. Guy say they 599 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,239 Speaker 1: don't want a data guy. Maybe it's a better way 600 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: of putting it who's under six feet tall and fourteen percent, 601 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: Of guys are actually over six feet tall so there's. A, 602 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: little bit of a math mismatch. Here now a lot 603 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: of you, weigh in we'll get, to some of that, 604 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: a lot of talkbacks a lot of emails including friends. 605 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: Of the show who have their own programs one of 606 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: them Might Be confused from a distance play with paul 607 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: bunyan because he is so enormous that he hits his 608 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: head on the bottom of. Pretty much everyone's ceiling on, 609 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: a regular basis let me just. Say Here cut you 610 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: off a, little, bit paul, bunyan, is like a, rugged 611 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: masculine brawny man gangly, not particularly strong more, like jolly 612 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: green giant BUT without the Muscles Is. 613 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 3: The. 614 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: Way that, I would describe jesse kelly wow uh. Well 615 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: i'm just gonna put it out there jesse taking some shots. 616 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: At the shorter brethren, among us. Out there? Here's what 617 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: He Said play. 618 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 7: It what's Up it's me jesse KELLY and clay and 619 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 7: buck asked me if i would weigh in on the 620 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 7: controversy that apparently has. Popped up over, tall guys versus short. 621 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 7: Guys WHAT women PREFER what they, should prefer so, i 622 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 7: just i. 623 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 2: Wanted. 624 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 7: To first of all clear, something, Up okay life is all. 625 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 7: About balance right everything's about striking a, balance the right 626 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 7: amount of time at. Work the right amount, of. Time, 627 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 7: at home everything's about a balance right. Well everything in 628 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 7: our life works this way if, you're a dude who's 629 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 7: under six feet tall you're most likely somebody. Who peaked 630 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 7: in grade school or high school. That's actually when you 631 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 7: stop growing as well and. During that time usually it's the, 632 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 7: short guys he gets the leg hair first, he drives 633 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 7: a nicer car than everyone else and. 634 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: For a few. 635 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 7: Years he gets to be the top, dog then he stops. 636 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 7: Growing at five six like most children do and then 637 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 7: the girl that used, to date you, now looks over 638 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 7: at me towering above you And she, Automatically knows It's 639 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 7: not just that i'm taller it's that. I'm a superior 640 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 7: being in, virtually every way it's not about. Your income 641 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 7: or your hair, or, anything else height, Is all that 642 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 7: matters absolutely all that matters. And the women, listening know 643 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 7: that is true you short. Guys, don't get down on 644 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 7: yourself at. All listen there's someone out there for everybody 645 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 7: there are, women who will lower Their standards for. 646 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 2: You and. 647 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 7: You should Thank God for them all right. 648 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: You know jen jesse is like. Six,' nine so he 649 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: thinks everybody Is short yeah he is. LEANING into THIS 650 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: heidism clay in a big way i did I, did 651 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: hear a mention of, hair though there well he doesn't have. 652 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: Any hair but he's. Fortunate because he's so tall. Most People, 653 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: can't tell now we have other reactions carol markowitz who, 654 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: is a mother of three and quite Quite charge has, 655 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: a great show on the clan, buck podcast network Which 656 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: You Should. All check out and normally with mary. CATHERINE 657 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: ham she's One Of our wonderful podcast hosts i think 658 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: that carol markowitz has one of. The best voices out 659 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: there for, a woman's host like when you hear her 660 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: voice it sounds, like something that would be a audio. 661 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: Book voice not For Like a professional voice actor so 662 00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: here is carol markowitz reacting to the. Controversy, over Women, 663 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: not Willing To date short Men. 664 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 8: Hey Clan buck it's carol markowitz from The krol Markowitz. 665 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 8: SHOW end normally on The clan buck podcast network i 666 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 8: fully agree with buck that dating apps have destroyed. Dating 667 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 8: life by making people have these unrealistic expectations people have 668 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 8: really lost all perspective about what makes. Attraction and what 669 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 8: they actually want in a partner online dating makes you 670 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 8: feel like you can punch in the perfect dimensions for your, 671 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 8: Possible boyfriend or girlfriend? And FILTER by those parameters so 672 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 8: why shouldn't you but i think that for, men there's 673 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 8: always another woman on? The next swipe so why settle 674 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 8: for this one and for women they. Rather wait than 675 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 8: get someone they, don't consider perfect. It's bad my message, 676 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 8: every day all the time get off the apps go 677 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 8: have we have the messy in person. Interactions that will show, 678 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 8: you who people really, are let it be awkward. Let 679 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 8: it be weird but, At least it's real go have. 680 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 8: A real life go meet people. IN real life you'll. 681 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 8: Be so much, BETTER. 682 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,479 Speaker 1: Off i think that's perfect by the. WAY i totally 683 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 1: agree with, her ARREST my case i think she nailed 684 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 1: it and i didn't even hear. 685 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 3: That. 686 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 1: UNTIL we just played it On the air now, i 687 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: will also submit that carol loved the interaction probably not 688 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: surprisingly based on The Comment That she just gave there 689 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: of the atlanta brave sideline reporter and the girl that 690 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 1: he was interviewing during the course of that game. That 691 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: Turned into a huge story here this week that buck 692 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,919 Speaker 1: was in, disbelief COULD have ever been controversial in any 693 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 1: way and. I, think it is kind, of a refreshing 694 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 1: take hey meet somebody in person, have an actual FACE to. 695 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: Face interaction with Them And, this is i believe we've 696 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: Also got Lisa booth also, a part of. The clay 697 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: and buck Podcast Network continuing the Breakdown We. Just heard 698 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 1: From carol markowitz and. From, jesse, Kelly here's what lisa 699 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:08,919 Speaker 1: had To Say. 700 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 9: Hey guys lisa with. The truth with? Lisa booth so here's? The, 701 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 9: truth does height matter, that is the question. WELL the, honest, 702 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 9: answer is of course it does i mean look every 703 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 9: woman wants to. Feel smaller than her boyfriend or her significant, 704 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 9: other we want to feel. Protected in his arms so 705 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 9: of course it matters. Of, course, WE would rather have 706 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 9: someone who's taller however look i think everyoneman's dated. A guy, 707 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 9: WHO is, maybe, around the same height so yeah i 708 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 9: mean look you would date someone if you really fell in. 709 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 9: Love with someone who is a little, bit shorter it's. 710 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,839 Speaker 9: NOT the end OF the world but it, matters i don't, 711 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 9: think i would, go shorter, though because you, know this 712 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 9: isn't limbo, you KNOW so you know so it does 713 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,320 Speaker 9: matter but i think a woman. Would, Make, AN exception 714 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,280 Speaker 9: for A really incredible. 715 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 1: Man okay clay i love. That we basically and we 716 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 1: did not coordinate, this we just, asked those friends of 717 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 1: the show and you know they had they had. Seen 718 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: on social and everything? This back and Forth What's, your, 719 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: take on it we, Really Have jesse kelly who let's. Just, Be, 720 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 1: honest jesse kelly is a. Height supremacist okay yes he is. 721 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 1: A height supremacist it's. All about height with him everything 722 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 1: else is secondary and he just looks down his nose 723 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 1: from way up there in the clouds, of being six 724 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: nine or six ten Or whatever and All of us 725 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 1: little we're like lilliputians. And, He's gulliver and that's how, 726 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: the world, is okay carol takes more the uh you 727 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: know the. We shouldn't be superficial, and get, off the 728 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: apps and you're not building you know you're not building 729 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 1: like a car where. You get to pick the. Heated 730 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: SEATS or Whatever you're you're meeting a person and i Think, 731 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,399 Speaker 1: lisa is a, little bit in between, of look it's 732 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 1: not everything but. It DOES matter and women should LOOK 733 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: into this so i feel like we've got i want 734 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: to open up lines and talkbacks and everything so people 735 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: can tell us. Who's who's position on this they find 736 00:37:58,440 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 1: most amenable Do? 737 00:37:59,360 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 2: You? 738 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: WANT to do The talk back from russell yeah i 739 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: also THINK carol's position is a really interesting one because 740 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: i don't only think women. HOLD out and are waiting 741 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 1: for the right guy i actually think sometimes they hold, 742 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 1: out and then, THEY look back and they're like YOU 743 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,360 Speaker 1: know What I should have GONE with GUY a, Or 744 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 1: guy c or guy f that i dated and, then 745 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 1: they're also measuring not only their ideal standard but also 746 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 1: some other guy, who went on and got married to 747 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 1: somebody else? And, they're THINKING to themselves if they stay single? Man? 748 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 1: DID i? Blow it. In that relationship too right i 749 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 1: lie you know i'm HAPPY that it WORKED out for 750 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 1: me the way i DID because, i COULDN'T love my 751 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:43,840 Speaker 1: wife more than i do and i think she's my soulmate. 752 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: And we have the cutest baby and, everything's perfect but 753 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,800 Speaker 1: every lady When, buck was, single who Walked away From The, 754 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: Buckster big? Mistake? Just, LIKE julia, robertson, PRETTY women big 755 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 1: mistake huge well i think yeah i think that if 756 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 1: you walk away from a relationship and then the guy 757 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 1: ends up getting married. AND he's got a good family 758 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: and everything else, i THINK a lot of those women 759 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 1: look back and i DO think the One thing that 760 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 1: you nailed is i do, think instagram has changed, it 761 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 1: because in years past you dated a guy but. People 762 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: had to come meet him right like you. In order 763 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 1: to know, who your friend was dating, you went to 764 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: lunch or you went to dinner or you went, to 765 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: a party or a social event with them. And you 766 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,359 Speaker 1: judge them based on face to face there wasn't as 767 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 1: much of An? Immediate oh what does it look like on? 768 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 1: Instagram WHAT does it look like on social media and 769 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: i think that many women have fallen victim to what 770 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 1: is the social? Media reaction going to, Be, to my 771 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 1: new guy and, if it's not. Hey this is the 772 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: perfect guy then they're unhappy. And look the numbers look 773 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: like that were true lots. Of, women out there are 774 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 1: now never Getting, married yes well that's this is. Why 775 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,320 Speaker 1: it's actually this is. Not a, Minor, Thing this is 776 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 1: a big issue you know Elon and there's a. Whole 777 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 1: OTHER conversation here about elon's Approach To this, but i 778 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 1: have tremendous respect for, elon he's fantastic says we're not 779 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 1: having enough babies which is true if, you look, the chart, 780 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 1: on us babies over time. It's just you know slowly 781 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: but surely, going down, marriage formation has also been going 782 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 1: down not catastrophically and it's actually had, a bit of 783 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:18,320 Speaker 1: a rebound in. Some demographics RECENTLY but marriage, formation is, 784 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: going down and play i think, that you know we 785 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,720 Speaker 1: are the first generation now we're seeing the first generation 786 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: now that has. HAD this, kind of social media and online. 787 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 1: Presence i mean here's a perfect example of this how 788 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,439 Speaker 1: many women out there when, they post a, photo with their, 789 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,839 Speaker 1: not let's say not their husband but you know their 790 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 1: boyfriend or fiance if, they're the same height or. He's, 791 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,840 Speaker 1: A little SMALLER would feel weird about it yeah, i 792 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 1: THINK i think the number is very high which. I 793 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 1: Think is a little Silly in my opinion caller jared is. 794 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 1: A former, Navy. Seal, And he's five to three what's up. 795 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 4: Jared yes i'm, so HONORED to finally Get through to, 796 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:00,040 Speaker 4: You guys. 797 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,360 Speaker 2: But i haven't ever i'll be. 798 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 4: Honest i've never tried To Get through you guys but 799 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:09,360 Speaker 4: it was with, Rush limbaugh, and with, You the subject 800 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 4: going on, I'm like oh lord i've got to call. 801 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 4: In I've got to try it one more. Time and 802 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 4: i'm so. 803 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 2: Honored to Actually be, on thank You very much so. 804 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 6: The. 805 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 4: Navy program they want, navy sills to be short the shorter, 806 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 4: you are and stealthier. You'll be and less. 807 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 2: Hidden so it. 808 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:42,440 Speaker 4: Doesn't matter they'll take Tall, men but. As, a, Five, 809 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:47,760 Speaker 4: foot three ex navy very proud. 810 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 1: Okay so jared you're a badass and we. Love you 811 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 1: and we, appreciate, you serving our country let? Me ask? 812 00:41:53,040 --> 00:42:01,440 Speaker 1: You though tallest? Woman you've ever dated, five six, okay you, 813 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 1: no But also, you know you know you know a 814 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,879 Speaker 1: navy guy. You show them. The anchor, tattoo in your 815 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 1: bicep you're a seal you. Know you're a little bit, of, 816 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 1: a special, Case i'm just gonna say this like you. Know, 817 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 1: i'm sure, you did fine with the ladies. 818 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:17,919 Speaker 10: Well, you know the, point of the matter, is hey 819 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 10: in my, world the shorter you, are and in this world. 820 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 10: The batterer you are the, MORE stealth you are but 821 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,799 Speaker 10: you know what again i go. 822 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 2: Back, to when you get in the real world yeah. 823 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 4: It's kind of. Hard to get a woman. 824 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:33,759 Speaker 2: When you're my. 825 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,319 Speaker 1: Size, Thank, you for the call appreciate. You calling in 826 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,399 Speaker 1: jared thank you for Your service We Got to talk 827 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:43,320 Speaker 1: back here from russell AND salt lake see see he listens. 828 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,879 Speaker 1: On kN Rs Where We. Are consistently number. One thank, you, salt, 829 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 1: lake city we love you. Play it guys guys. Guys 830 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 1: got it all wrong it's not. 831 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 5: THE height it's the guitar in. 832 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 1: The guy's hands i think it's. The flute personally but 833 00:42:56,040 --> 00:43:00,439 Speaker 1: if we in everybody's hands what percentage of? MUSICIANS rock 834 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 1: BANDS got Into Music solely for girls i mean i 835 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 1: think dave navarro, of what is? He, nine inch Nails Or, no, 836 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 1: not nine? Inches, well Red Hot Chili. Peppers, RIGHT was 837 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 1: he yeah red hot chili pepper sorry, i think he's 838 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,080 Speaker 1: like five two or five three. Like some of these 839 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 1: guys that are on stage, oh you never see anyone 840 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,359 Speaker 1: REALLY sort, of Standing some of these? Big rock i? Mean? 841 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,440 Speaker 1: Wasn't prince was like four he. Was tiny Yeah actually 842 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,319 Speaker 1: pretty good basketball player too remember. This chappelle skit like 843 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 1: that was based in reality prince was A high. School 844 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 1: basketball Pretty good player in the Minneapolis, area josh in 845 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 1: california wants to? Weigh? And, JOSH what do you have for. 846 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 2: Us hey yeah i was just calling, because while women can. 847 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 1: Hold menus standards of height why can't, we hold them 848 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:46,360 Speaker 1: to the standards? 849 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 2: Of you know weight and? TAKING care, of themselves, can 850 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,279 Speaker 2: they cook a meal i. Mean you know it's got 851 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 2: to be. 852 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,439 Speaker 1: Both ways when it comes to a successful, marriage it's 853 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 1: not always if the guy's, just tall, but. 854 00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 5: If, The, woman's just kind of you know. 855 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:04,239 Speaker 1: PRETTY josh josh you're a preaching the choir here a 856 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,360 Speaker 1: man who says that he doesn't want to date, a 857 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 1: fat woman is considered, to be AND like even women, 858 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 1: are just like. Oh when i just said that it's 859 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 1: completely unacceptable. Yet you can, CONTROL in some way your 860 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:22,400 Speaker 1: weight women saying yeah i. WON'T date short guys totally 861 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 1: considered to be acceptable i think that's probably the biggest 862 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,719 Speaker 1: disconnect between what men are allowed. To say and what 863 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,400 Speaker 1: women are allowed to say. Women can judge men on 864 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 1: things they can't control men. Can't even judge women. On 865 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 1: things they can control welcome to modern life it's. IT'S 866 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,560 Speaker 1: a jungle out there. In the dating world i will 867 00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 1: tell you that so to all of. Our short kings, 868 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,760 Speaker 1: and the ladies who love. Them god bless you stay 869 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 1: strong and stand tall