1 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: And just like that, we're back in another edition of 2 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: the Late Cake Extra podcast Tuesday morning, October twenty sixth. 3 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: They over Lord twenty twenty one, happy to be back 4 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: in the extra format. I know we had to take 5 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: a little break last week. We had to give you 6 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: a roundtable. We only do those like what twice a year. 7 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: I think we've done so far this year. But I 8 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: got your feedback. I heard it loud and clear. Some 9 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: of you wanted the extra, some of you needed the extra, 10 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: and some of you got a little militant because you 11 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: didn't get the extra last week. But I know that 12 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: it's all in good fun, it's out of love. So 13 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: here we are. We're back. What is the extra? By 14 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: the way, what does all this mean? What is this terminology? Well, 15 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: it's really easy. I know it's got to be easy 16 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: because I came up with it. In this very podcast feed, 17 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: you get all the replays of Late Cake Live, which 18 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: we do on the twenty four seven Sports YouTube channel 19 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: every Sunday Tuesday Thursday night, so naturally you get it Monday, 20 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: Wednesday Friday morning here. But because this podcast feed is special, 21 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: and because it's taken off, and because as recently as 22 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: last week we were top ten in the world in 23 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: football pods. We do something extra here that only we 24 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: get to hear. We don't put it on YouTube, we 25 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: don't put it anywhere else. And it is the Late 26 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: Kick Extra podcast Tuesday morning, Thursday morning. It's all mailbag. 27 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: It's answering your questions via DM at Late Kick Josh 28 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: on Instagram, at late Kick Josh on Twitter, and also 29 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: a little storytelling here and there. And I got some 30 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: good ones for you this morning. And that's the way 31 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: this works. And if I sound a little bit wired, 32 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: well I am, because I mean I just downed a 33 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: whole canful of caffeine. But also, the Braves are in 34 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: the World Series tonight. I don't think you guys quite 35 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: realize what this means to me. And it's not a 36 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: baseball podcast, so I'm not gonna bore you with all 37 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: those details. But I'm just to give you a little 38 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: idea of my childhood. I was such a big Braves 39 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: fan growing up that in the summer, when I was 40 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: out of school, I would record the games at night. 41 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: They were still on TBS back then. I would record 42 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: the games, watch them live as I record them, and 43 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: watch them again the next morning, So I would watch 44 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: eighteen innings on average of every Braves game. So yeah, 45 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: it's a pretty big deal because when they were in 46 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: the playoffs every year but not winning the World Series 47 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: quite enough in the latter portion of the Bobby Cox era, 48 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: I was there every playoff game, and I was there 49 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: in four when they got eliminated by Houston, and I 50 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: was there in five when they got eliminated by Houston, 51 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 1: and it disgusts me. I do not like the Houston Astros. 52 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: Never have organizations, never done a thing for me. God 53 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: bless Houston, great city. Just not a big fan of 54 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 1: your baseball team. So I'm distracted but focused because we 55 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: got a big week of college football coming up. We 56 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: are headed to East Lansing, Michigan, disc Saturday. I've never 57 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: been there before. And here's what happens when we were 58 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: taking the Renaissance Tour to a town we've never been before. 59 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: We get flooded, and by we, I really mean my inbox. 60 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: I get flooded with people saying everything from just I'm 61 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: excited that you guys are coming here, to here's what 62 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: you need to do, to here's a list of all 63 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: the places you need to check out. I had so 64 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: many folks put together like a dossier, even information for 65 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: me on everything from East Lansing to the bar scene. 66 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: Even though you guys know by now I don't drink, 67 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: but I still appreciate the effort to the restaurant scene. 68 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: And I absolutely do partake in food, possibly even addicted 69 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: to food. So I am actually working out those details 70 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 1: with Michigan State this morning as I'm recording. Yes, irresponsibly 71 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: waited till morning again. And the only thing I don't 72 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: know is what time I'm going to get up there. 73 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: Probably sometime Friday. I just don't know what time. Got 74 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: a few obligations to take care of here, but man, 75 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that. And the one thing that 76 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: some of you have complained about that you know, I 77 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: love the noon kickoff, the eleven am Central time kickoff, 78 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: because it is such a blessing to be able to 79 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: be at the biggest game in the country and then 80 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: be on a plane by sundown and be working on 81 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: next night's show, and then be in your own bed 82 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: that night. That doesn't happen very often because most of 83 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: the games I go to are primetime kickoffs, So it 84 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: is a luxury when we do get that. Thank you 85 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: big noon kickoff. Thank you to our friends at Fox, 86 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: and thank you to our friends at Michigan State. And 87 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: I haven't even been to the game yet, but I 88 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:00,839 Speaker 1: was talking to in this one morning. You know, they're 89 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: gonna have two pregame shows. Obviously up there, They're gonna 90 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,119 Speaker 1: have the Fox pre game in the ESPN College Game Day, 91 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: and both of those sets are going to shift. A 92 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: little inside information for you here, both of those sets 93 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: are gonna shift to end stadium the hour before kickoff, 94 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,119 Speaker 1: which I've never seen before. I've been at these games 95 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: every week. I've never seen both of those shows emanate 96 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: from the same location, and I've really never seen both 97 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: of them on a field at the same time. That's 98 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: like NFL super Bowl type stuff. So yeah, there you go, 99 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: East Lansing a super Bowl atmosphere for Michigan Michigan State. 100 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: And meanwhile, I'm over there humbly trying to just get 101 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: our pregame live hits for CBS Sports HQ out of 102 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: the way. But it is a task we are prepared for. 103 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: So let's kick off the mailbag this morning. Jesse wanted 104 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: to know not Jesse, not producer Jesse from Connecticut, and 105 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: apparently there are at least two of these folks in 106 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 1: the world. Another Jesse, Jesse from Parts Unknown, wanted to 107 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: know about Edward's run, and he wanted to know what. 108 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: I'll just read it cause it's right in front of me. 109 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: So Jesse's words better than mine, Jesse said, will the 110 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: way edwors Zeron's tenure at LSU came to a close 111 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: taint the twenty nineteen National Championship win, absolutely not, absolutely not. 112 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 1: In fact, the way it ended is irrelevant unless he 113 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: went out in just a flame of scandal, which he didn't. Now, 114 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: I know there's been some off the field stuff, and 115 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: I know there's an investigation going on, and that's a 116 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: side because we don't know how that ends. But the 117 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: only real scandal as far as we know was bad football. 118 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: And yeah, that's a scandal for a fan. But once 119 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,799 Speaker 1: it's over, it's over. There is no lingering effects. So Edworzeron. 120 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: They could have lost to Florida, I mean, which would 121 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: have been worse. They could have lost some of these 122 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: other close games they won. My point is, no matter 123 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: how bad it got on the field, if those were 124 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: the reasons Edworzron got fired, or at least those were 125 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: the contributing reasons to Edworsron being fired. No, once it's done, 126 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: it's done, So edwars Heron's done now at LSU. That 127 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: does not at all take away from twenty nine. In fact, 128 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: what I was going to say is, now that it's done, 129 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: and now that he's out of the picture, at least 130 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: at the end of the year, he'll be out of 131 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: the picture. Now you don't have to worry about how 132 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 1: much this is tainting anything anymore. Now you can just 133 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: separate and compartmentalize, and you can look at him and 134 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: you can say, all right, there's Ed Orsron. He is 135 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: not good enough to lead our program anymore. But he 136 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: also led the greatest season in the history of our program. 137 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: And I think you can do both of those. I'll 138 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 1: tell you. I mean, I've obviously never been divorced, but 139 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 1: I have no plenty of people who have been divorced, 140 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: and some of them amicably, and some of them get 141 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: along fine. Now again, for someone like me who's never 142 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: been in that position, that is really hard for me 143 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: to grasp. That's a hard concept for me to grasp 144 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: that you could have been with someone in marriage for 145 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: over a decade. You know, I'm thinking of one couple 146 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: I know in particular, who was married for over a decade. 147 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: They got divorced. I think it was like thirteen or 148 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: fourteen year marriage. They got divorced, and they're friends today. 149 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: I mean, they're like genuinely friends today. So again, that 150 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: kind of blows my mind, probably blows a lot of 151 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: your minds. Maybe some of you listening have been divorced 152 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: and you cannot stand your former significant other, and so 153 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: maybe even those of you, some of whom who have 154 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: been divorced, are blown away by this concept. My point is, 155 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: it does happen. And so if I were to ask 156 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: that couple, they do not know I'm talking about them 157 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: this morning, so let's keep it on the hush. But 158 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: if I were to ask them, you know, how do 159 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: you do this? How are you doing this? Isn't divorce 160 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: supposed to be predicated on the fact that you can't 161 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: stand each other anymore? And I would imagine, again I 162 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: have not reached out for official comment, but I would 163 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: imagine they would say something along the lines of no, 164 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: it's predicated on the fact that we could not sustain 165 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: our relationship as it was currently defined, but now we 166 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: can be friends, no problem. We weren't married friends, we 167 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: were married partners. We can't be partners anymore, but we 168 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: can still be friends. And I listen. I don't know 169 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: if that's what they'd say, that's what I imagine they'd say. 170 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: But I do know this. If we get let's say, 171 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: five years down the road, and all of this is 172 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: behind us, the Oorjeron era is in the past, and 173 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: you can, doubly especially take this to the bank. If 174 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: Lsu ends up being successful again, if the coach that 175 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: comes after Orgeron is a Grand Slam and they end 176 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: up winning again this era, if it ends up being 177 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: scandal free, and we're five years removed in this analogy, 178 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: so we know whether it's scandal free or not. If 179 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: they're scandal free, they didn't get hit by any kind 180 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: of huge off field sanctions, and the next coach is successful, 181 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: that means there's no lingering effect, there's no Oorzeron after effect. 182 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: If that's the way it works out, here's how it 183 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: will look Edworzeron will come back around the program periodically, 184 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: and he will be celebrated and he will be revered, 185 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: and all they'll remember is twenty nineteen. And as time 186 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: goes on and history makes twenty twenty and twenty twenty 187 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: one a distant memory, he will not be known as Edworzeron, 188 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: the guy who let the program get out of control. 189 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: In the subsequent years, he will be known as there's Edworzeron. 190 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: That guy had a short run, But man, what a 191 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: shooting star he was in twenty nineteen, and what a 192 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 1: season we had in twenty nineteen. And for those of 193 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: you who weren't around, let me tell you about what 194 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: this guy did with someone named Jamar Chase and Joe 195 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: Burrow and Joe Brady. Let me tell you what that 196 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: team did under his leadership. And let me tell you 197 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: what the culture was like around here. Let me tell 198 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: you what the mood nationally was like towards LSU football. 199 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: It was in a way it has never been before. 200 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: And who knows, we're five years down the road, we're ten, fifteen, 201 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: twenty years down the road. Maybe it hasn't been that 202 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 1: way again since. But no, Jesse, Tan's your question. I 203 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: don't think it taints it at all. The only thing 204 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: that can screw this up is if they end up 205 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 1: getting hit with some form of sanctions that are a 206 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: result of the Orjeron looseness and of the way that 207 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: that program was operating under Edorzeron's watch. If that happens, 208 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 1: then that changes the dynamic. But we don't know that 209 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: that's going to happen. We have no way of knowing that. 210 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: So if it doesn't, I think ed Orgeron's legacy will 211 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: be fine. In fact, I think it'll be better ten 212 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: years down the road than it is right now. Kevin 213 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 1: is next up. A very intimate question here from Kevin, 214 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: A very personal question from Kevin. But as I always say, 215 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: and as me and my I told me back in 216 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: the day, if you can't air your personal secrets on 217 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: a worldwide podcast, then where can you air your personal 218 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: secrets at. So let's talk Kevin. Kevin said, I was 219 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: at the Tennessee Bama game. Good to see you there, 220 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: But I've just got to know what were you talking 221 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: to that cop about for so long down in the 222 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 1: end zone. There's some pause, Jordan, don't edit that out. 223 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: I just wanted to let it sizzle for a second, 224 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: because that's one of those questions that makes me sound 225 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: if we're being real with ourselves a little bit cooler 226 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: than I actually am. So Yeah, I was hanging out 227 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: with the cops. Yeah, we had some things to talk about, 228 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: some things that are on a need to know basis, 229 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: and Kevin, you don't need to I'm not gonna tell 230 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: you that that would be mean, but but it is 231 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: kind of true that some things were discussed between law 232 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: enforcement and myself that cannot be shared on the pod. However, 233 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: some things were discussed that can be shared on the pod. 234 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: As I told you guys as recently as last week. 235 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: Remember when I was at the ole Miss Tennessee game. 236 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: I told you one of the tricks of the trade. 237 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: Always get to know security, always get to know the 238 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: law enforcement officers working the game. I also got to 239 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: tell you little side note here. Almost forgot to give 240 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: her a shout out. Danielle with the tuscal Loosis Sheriff's 241 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: Department was our personal escort outside the stadium when we 242 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: were doing live shots, and she said the same thing 243 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: you're thinking right now, She said, why am I escorting you? 244 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: What am I about to do if someone attacks you? Well, 245 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: not the worst point in the world. It's a question 246 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 1: I didn't have the answer for. But nevertheless, very very 247 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: lovely from Wooster, mass Danielle with the tuscal Loosis Sheriff's Department. 248 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: And so we going back inside and I'm talking to 249 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: my guy down in the corner there, and he was 250 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: regaling me rarely used word, but he was regaling me 251 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 1: with stories about what they've dealt with at live games. 252 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: He works a lot of BAMA games, what they've dealt 253 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: with at games before, and as I suspected, the night 254 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 1: games are always far less preferred to the early afternoon 255 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: or noon kickoffs for obvious reasons. And so I was 256 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: telling him. Back in twenty nineteen, I covered the Alabama 257 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: LSU game there and the President was there. Here's the 258 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: part where I stop and say I couldn't and I 259 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: mean couldn't, and I mean all caps could not possibly 260 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: care any less than I do right now. What you 261 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: think about any president at any time, don't care. Don't care, 262 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: don't care. One of the dumbest things in the world 263 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: is when people start to tell a story that includes 264 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: a politician and they feel the need to preface it 265 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 1: with no, I don't agree with everything he or she does. No, 266 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that, because that's stupid. I'm gonna tell 267 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: you a story that happens to involve a president, and 268 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna go with it. So I'm there at Bama 269 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: LSU twenty nineteen, biggest game of the weekend, biggest game 270 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: of the year. This is Joe Burrow, this is LSU 271 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: and route to a national championship. So they come into 272 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: brandon any Stadium. President's there, I'm there, Secret Service is there? 273 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 1: Now that day I kicked it up into overdrive because 274 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: I wasn't even talking to normal cops. I was talking 275 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: to Secret Service agents and they wouldn't tell me all 276 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: the stories they had, but I knew that they had them, 277 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: so I just wanted to get as much as I 278 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: could out of them. Anyway, the way they do these 279 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: events is they tell you if they know a president's 280 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: going to be their ahead of time, you need to 281 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: get there early, and then you need to be seated 282 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: because we are going to have a complete ground stoppage 283 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: when the motor caid is approaching the venue. And that's 284 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: exactly what happened, So they have everyone in the seats. 285 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it was the most surreal thing. BAMA and 286 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: LSU were warming up an hour before kickoff. Stadium's already 287 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 1: completely full, so they don't let you actually know when 288 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: a president is arriving. But the way you can tell 289 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: is they have a complete ground stoppage on the entire venue. 290 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: No one can move anywhere while they're moving him in 291 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: wherever they're coming in. And so I was watching a tunnel, 292 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: not the one that they brought him in down, but 293 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 1: I was watching a tunnel that got shut down because 294 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: it was one of the possible access points. They have 295 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: multiple possible access points. They do the old coin flip 296 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: to decide which one they're gonna use. Well, this one kid, 297 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: who's already totally plastered, decides that he don't want to wait, 298 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: and so he just moves on about his business. And 299 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: then he starts moving towards one of those access points, 300 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: and Secret Service takes that kid and not so lovingly 301 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: escort him via then around a corner. And I don't 302 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: really know what happened to that kid, to be honest 303 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: with you, if you check the records at the University 304 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: of Alabama, he may not exist anymore. I don't know 305 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: what happened to him. But I was telling them that story, 306 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: and then Saturday night he told me like fifteen better stories. 307 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: So Kevin. That's what I was talking to him about. 308 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: Michael is up next. Michael said, for all the talk 309 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: about the renaissance season early in the year, and I 310 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: believed in it just like you did. Does it seem 311 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: to you like we're settling into the same old, same old, 312 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: where the most likely teams are gonna end up being 313 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: the ones that make the playoff like they do every year. 314 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: And then he goes on to pant out all the 315 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: scenarios and whatnot. Where Bama Georgia one of the two, 316 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: maybe both Ohio State, oklahomah blah blah blah. So Michael, 317 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: I would say this, there is a possibility, that's how 318 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: it shakes out. I think there's an equal to or 319 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: greater possibility. It doesn't shake out that way for all 320 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: of you out there, and I know there are a 321 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: lot of you, because I've seen a number of questions 322 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: phrased like this, for those of you who are worried 323 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: that we're just settling in to one of those perennial 324 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: inevitabilities of the same old, same ol at the top, 325 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be so quick to assume. Let me lay 326 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: something out for you. I'm gonna lay a few things out, 327 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: And just understand, as I'm laying these scenarios out, all 328 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: of these have to happen in order for you to 329 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: get your biggest fear. Now, some of you aren't scared 330 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: of this I'm talking about if you want something different 331 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: than the playoff, your biggest fear will only come true 332 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: if all of these things happen at once. And you 333 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: ask yourself, as I'm going down this list, how likely 334 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: is it that all of these things happen. First thing 335 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: that would have to happen, Alabama has got to go 336 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: into Auburn and win, and then they've got to beat 337 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: Georgia in Atlanta. Now, Alabama has been at their most 338 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: vulnerable in the two toughest road trips they've made. They 339 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: went to Florida, they almost lost against Florida. They went 340 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: to Texas A and M they did lose there, And 341 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: they got to go to Auburn. And I'm telling you 342 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: I've been there many a time. If any of you 343 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: have ever been to Auburn for the Iron Bowl, that's 344 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: the toughest place Alabama plays. I think it's tougher for 345 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: them to play there than it is for them to 346 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: play at LSU. It's just a nightmare. Even when they're 347 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: good and Auburn's not good. They don't blow Auburn out there. 348 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: They never do. So you got that. And then they 349 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: got to go to Atlanta and they got to beat Georgia, 350 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: a Georgia team that will, I guess we would say, 351 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: in all likelihood be undefeated, but we'll see. But in 352 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: all likelihood Georgia would be undefeated. But they've I believe, 353 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: got to win both of those games. I don't think 354 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: Bama can afford to lose another game. That's what I'm 355 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: telling you. Okay, so let's say that happens. Next up, 356 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: you'd have Ohio State. The best team Ohio State played 357 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: so far this year they got beat by that was Oregon. Now, 358 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: I think we can all agree Ohio State as a 359 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: team has turned a significant page since then, and I'm 360 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: not suggesting otherwise. But what I am telling you is 361 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: I would argue the next one, two, three, for maybe 362 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: the next five toughest teams that Ohio State will have 363 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: played after Oregon are all still left on their schedule. Now, 364 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: none of these independently you think pose a threat. I'm 365 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: telling you collectively, this will not be the easiest stretch 366 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: in the world. They got a Penn State team this 367 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: Saturday night in pure desperation mode. They go to Nebraska. 368 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: After that, they've got Purdue at home. After that they 369 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: go Michigan State, and then they go at Michigan and 370 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: that's all in a row. That's no bye week. Then 371 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: they got the Big Ten championship game. Ohio State also 372 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: cannot afford a loss. They have no more wiggle room. 373 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: What about Oklahoma, Well, Oklahoma, they're in a unique position 374 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: because they're undefeated, but I don't know if they can 375 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 1: afford a loss quite like everyone else. And I'll tell 376 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: you why. So first off, let's think about this Oklahoma 377 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 1: undefeated so far, but they've had several close wins. Keep 378 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: that in mind. So they got Texas Tech this Saturday, 379 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: then they got the bye week. They will finish up 380 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 1: the regular season at Baylor at home, versus Iowa State, 381 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: and at Oklahoma State. What I want you to remember 382 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: there is those are probably the three best defensive coordinators 383 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: they'll play all year, and they play them consecutively to 384 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: end the year. And that's a true freshman quarterback now 385 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: in Caleb Williams. Very good one, but a true freshman 386 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: quarterback with film out and several weeks for those defensive 387 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: coordinators to get ready. And they've got all that, and 388 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: they've got a big twelve championship game if they get 389 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 1: through that, and you'd probably I don't know, you may 390 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: play Oklahoma State, you may play Iowa State. I don't 391 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: know how that would shake out. But the reason I'm 392 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: telling you they may not have as much will room 393 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: depending on how the rest of it shakes out is 394 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: because with Oklahoma, as long as they're undefeated, they're good. 395 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: But the whole picture, I don't want to say narrative, 396 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: So the whole picture on Oklahoma will change radically. You 397 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 1: watch what I tell you. If they lose a game, 398 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they'll go from undefeated shoe in 399 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: to lose one game and it won't just be a loss. 400 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: It'll be a loss and people saying, yeah, they lost 401 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: a game and they barely beat TWU Lane and they 402 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: barely beat Kansas, like this could be a three or 403 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: four loss team. That's what it'll sound like. I'm telling you. 404 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: Because of how they've played so far this year, they 405 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: will not be viewed the same as a one loss 406 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: Bama or a one lass Ohio State. If Oklahoma loses 407 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 1: a game, they are in danger depending on how the 408 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: rest of the top four looks of being left out 409 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 1: because of one loss. Okay, so think about just those three. 410 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 1: We can stop there. Clemson's not in this they normally are. 411 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: Georgia I don't consider in this category because Georgia has 412 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: only made the playoff once and so Georgia and they've 413 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 1: never won an national championship in the modern era. So Georgia, 414 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: I think is new blood. I don't even think they 415 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 1: qualify just because they're a big SEC team. I don't 416 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: think they qualify the same way Alabama does. So just 417 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: take those three, think about what the likelihood is of 418 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 1: Alabama not losing another game, Ohio State not losing another game, 419 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: and Oklahoma not losing another game, because that's what you 420 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: have to have happen for your biggest fear to become 421 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 1: a reality. I'm a believer that the odds are overwhelmingly 422 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: more so that one of those does fall than the 423 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: odds are that none of them fall. To me, really, 424 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: the real big mistake people are making at the moment 425 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: is they've eliminated teams that aren't really eliminated. Ole miss 426 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: is not eliminated from this guys. Ole Miss has one loss. 427 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: If Alabama lost the Iron Bowl and ole Miss didn't 428 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: lose another game, ole Miss would go to the SEC 429 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: title game. That's how close ole Miss is. If they 430 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: don't lose another game, that's how close they are to 431 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: playing for a conference championship and possibly playing for a 432 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: spot in the playoff. Cincinnati's right there, I believe, given 433 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: what I just told you and the unlikelihood of all 434 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: those things panning out, I think there's going to be 435 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: a spot open for Cincinnati as long as they win 436 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: all their games. I am still a believer Cincinnati is 437 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 1: going to be in. That alone would break the glass 438 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:11,959 Speaker 1: ceiling that a lot of you think has existed, and 439 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: really hasn't. There just hasn't been a G five team 440 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: worthy of a playoff spot. Well, they would be now 441 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: and so that alone would obviously be a really huge deal. 442 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: Michigan is undefeated. Of course, you cannot eliminate a team 443 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 1: that's undefeated in the Power five conference right now. I 444 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 1: think people have written Oregon off way too early. I 445 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: was talking to someone last night. You know, here's a 446 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: little scenario to just keep in the back of your mind. 447 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 1: I know some of our Doug fans have already started 448 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: to pose this scenario there since Oregon a one loss team, 449 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 1: but because they have not looked good lately, you've kind 450 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 1: of dismissed them one loss in the Pac twelve. We 451 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 1: don't think the Pac twelve's good enough. You get the 452 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: whole picture. Well, that's not the way that you judge this. 453 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: The way you have to judge it is in any 454 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: individual year. Oregon right now, at least in the AP 455 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: is number seven. Let me tell you what they have 456 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: coming up. They got Colorado at Washington, Washington State at Utah, 457 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: Oregon State, and then potentially Pack twelve championship game. They 458 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: will of course be favored the rest of the way. 459 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean they'll win all the games, but they'll 460 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: be favored the rest of the way. Their only loss 461 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: is an overtime loss to Stanford. They have and here's 462 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: where you really need to pay attention. They have a 463 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: win over Ohio State on the road. So here's the question. 464 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 1: What happens if the final spot in the playoff, or 465 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: if a spot in the playoff comes down to a 466 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: one loss Pack twelve champ Oregon a one loss big 467 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: ten champ Ohio State. Well, guess what's supposed to matter, folks. 468 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: What's supposed to matter is head to head, and they 469 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: didn't play at a neutral site. They didn't play in Phoenix, Arizona. 470 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: Oregon went to Ohio State and beat them there. Now, 471 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: I told the person I was talking to on the 472 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: phone last night, I think Ohio State would still make 473 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 1: it in whether you think they deserve it or not. 474 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: What would happen is the committee, I think, would look 475 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: at that and they would say, yes, it's true Oregon 476 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: beat Ohio State on a neutral field, but it looks 477 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: like ti Ohio State's remaining schedule was that much more 478 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: difficult because they have that many more ranked wins over 479 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: teams than Oregon does. And I have no problem with 480 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 1: the first part. Here's the problem I'd have. The second 481 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: part would be we believe they're a better team today. 482 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, Folks on that committee have 483 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: no business telling you who the better team is. In 484 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: their opinion. It needs to be decided on the field. 485 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 1: I'm all about power ratings, but I'm all about merit 486 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: as well. But I'm telling you, independent of what I think, 487 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: that's the way that would shake out in my opinion, 488 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: But if Oregon doesn't lose another game, and there's some 489 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: other dominoes that follow, maybe that's a mute point, as 490 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: I like to say, a mute point. I mean, is 491 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 1: Iowa out? If Iowa doesn't lose another game, they're a 492 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: one loss Big Ten champ? Are they out? Presumably they 493 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: would have a win against Ohio State maybe in the 494 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: Big Ten championship game. I don't know that you can 495 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: rule them out. I don't think you can rule Notre 496 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 1: Dame out. I mean, there are several teams here, but 497 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: what happens when Pitt's a one loss ACC champ. They're 498 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: all kinds of different scenarios. So my point is everyone 499 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: thinks this has already been narrowed down to five or sixteens. 500 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: It hasn't. There are double digit teams still very much 501 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: alive for a playoff spot. I don't know if it's 502 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: necessarily the last several years playing mind games with you 503 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: or something like that, but it's not the last several years. 504 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: And if anyone thinks that the upsets are done, if 505 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: anyone thinks we have settled into a routine, no November, 506 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:27,479 Speaker 1: late October and November, those are the routine breakers, because 507 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: that's where the high wire gets too high above the street, 508 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: where the consequences if you fall are catastrophic. Some people 509 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 1: can deal with that pressure. Some people can't. Look at 510 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: these teams. Look at Ohio State, look at Bama, look 511 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: at Oklahoma, much less Cincinnati and the like. These are 512 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: teams with a bunch of young players who have never 513 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: been in this position before. So I'm not gonna be 514 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,959 Speaker 1: the one who assumes they're just gonna cake walk their 515 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,239 Speaker 1: way right to a playoff spot. I'm not assuming that 516 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: Seth is next up. He has a very important question, 517 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: one of the most important questions of our time. I'm 518 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: gonna give you the question, and then I'm gonna host 519 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: to the ad break so that you can marinate on 520 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: it for about thirty to forty five seconds, however long 521 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: they're making these ad breaks these days. I'll tell you 522 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: what the most ridiculous thing is is when I go 523 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 1: back and listen to my own podcast and the ad 524 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 1: break is me. It's me reading an Academy Sports ad read. Now, 525 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: even I would think that's ridiculous, and I'm me, so 526 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: I can only imagine I don't know what ad break's 527 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: coming up. I'm just telling you that's how I would feel. 528 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: So anyway, here is Seth's question, very important. Let me 529 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: read it slowly. Why do you hate parlays so much? Oh, Seth? Oh, 530 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: sweet sweet Seth. I will be more than happy to 531 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: answer and change your life in the process for the 532 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: better and for your future children's own good. Right after this, so, 533 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: Seth wanted to know what many of you need to know, 534 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: and that is why do I hate betting parlays so much? 535 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: Let me explain it to you in basic mathematical terms. Okay, 536 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,239 Speaker 1: sometimes on late Cake we do a Padlock stat alert. Well, 537 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: I'm giving you basic math alert. You don't even need 538 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: to pull out your iPhone calculator to do what I'm 539 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 1: about to do. What is our goal? I mean, let's 540 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: just clearly state for everyone in the room, what is 541 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: your goal when you're betting? Your goal, most of you 542 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 1: is not to lose money. Well, that shouldn't be your goal. 543 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: Your goal is to win money. You shouldn't be relieved 544 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: when you push. You shouldn't be relieved when you don't lose. 545 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 1: That is psychological ploy number one the sports betting industry 546 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 1: plays on you. You actually get convinced it's a win for 547 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: you if you just don't lose money. Now, it's a 548 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: win when you win money. So that's the first thing. 549 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: They already have the edge on you. The second edge, 550 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: obviously they have, is the big juice, whatever you want 551 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: to call it. That's why you need to hit it 552 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: a fifty two point four percent clip in order to 553 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: make money instead of just going fifty to fifty. Now 554 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: that we've acknowledged though, that our goal is to win money, 555 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: I need to ask you one more ratio based question. 556 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: Simple bankroll ratio. Here, is one dollar to two dollars 557 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: the same thing as one million dollars to two million dollars, 558 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: and the answer is yes. Is five dollars to ten 559 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 1: dollars the same as five million dollars to ten million dollars, 560 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 1: The answer is yes. Those two numbers, those two dollar 561 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: figures scale proportionately. The other is twice as big as 562 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 1: the first one. This is the single biggest misconception in 563 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: sports betting. A lot of you out there don't even 564 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 1: define a set bank roll to start with. And then secondly, 565 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: even if you do, you start betting money on the side, 566 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 1: which is a no no. But you start doing it 567 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 1: via parlays. For those of you unfamiliar, a parlay is 568 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: the thing where you have to hit every part of 569 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 1: the bet for the bet to win. Now, it's very 570 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: juicy because you bet ten dollars and you risk ten 571 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: to win like one hundred and fifteen, and so that 572 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: looks great. It's only ten bucks, right, No, it's not 573 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: only ten bucks. It's part of your bankroll. That's what 574 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: it is. It is a chunk of your bankroll. We 575 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: are working on margins so thin that even the best 576 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 1: in the world have to properly manage their bankroll. There 577 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: is no wiggle room. That's why it makes no sense 578 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: to pay for picks. By the way, you don't have 579 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,239 Speaker 1: the spare collateral because you have to walk such a 580 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: thin margin because odds makers are so good at making 581 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: numbers so tight that it's very hard to win. Ninety 582 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: six percent of people who bet sports lose long term 583 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: because it's so hard to win. If you don't understand 584 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: the principle that you can never throw away a single dollar, 585 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 1: then you're already on the track to losing money long term. 586 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: But that's not the way the mind of a typical 587 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: sports better works. The ninety six percenters tell themselves, I 588 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: can afford to put ten random dollars on a parlay 589 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,239 Speaker 1: over here, Yeah, in that moment, you probably can't afford to. 590 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: What you can afford to do is have that mentality, 591 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: because that mentality doesn't stop when the sun goes down. 592 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 1: How many of you out there have ever bet one parlay? 593 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 1: I mean maybe a couple of you are raising your hands, 594 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: you know, good and will That's not the way it works. 595 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: And if you add up that money over the course 596 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: of a season, then guess what happens all of a sudden. 597 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: You didn't just bet ten dollars. You bet one hundred 598 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: and seventy five dollars, or you bet three hundred and 599 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: ten dollars, or some of you ended up betting over 600 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: one thousand dollars because you end up putting one parlay in, 601 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 1: then three, then four, than six. And the worst thing 602 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 1: that can happen is what happened to me. If you 603 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: can't tell, I'm speaking from experience. Fourteen year old JP, 604 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: not even old enough to get a learner's license, but 605 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 1: I was old enough to open up an offshore sports 606 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 1: book account. Worst idea ever. So here's what I did. 607 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: I opened my account, and all of a sudden, guess 608 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: what prominently displayed right there on the front page is 609 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: how to bet a parlay? You ever notice that, guys, 610 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: especially those of you who live in states where sports 611 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: betting is legal. You notice those commercials. You notice what's 612 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 1: featured prominently in every one of those commercials. You notice 613 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 1: what's boosted on the front page of every one of 614 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: those sports books parlays. Parlays part it's almost like they 615 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: want you betting them, right, That's crazy how that works. Anyway, 616 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: Little JP found parlays his first day, and that wasn't 617 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,239 Speaker 1: the worst part. The worst part is I hit two 618 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: fourteen parlays on the same day. I put twenty bucks apiece. 619 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: It was ten to one return and so I won 620 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: four hundred bucks over the span of a couple hours 621 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: on one random Sunday afternoon, and I thought I had 622 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: discovered the secret to success. I never thought I was 623 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: going to have to have a job. I mean, I'm fourteen, 624 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: I'm this ignorant. I really thought that's how easy it 625 00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: was going to be. And here was the other part. 626 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: I figure, wait a second, if this returns ten to one, 627 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: I don't even have to hit one every week. I mean, 628 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: think about that. All I have to do is hit 629 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: one one out of every nine times, and I'll be 630 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: profitable because if the return is ten to one. As 631 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: long as I hit one one out of every nine times, 632 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: then I'll be making money. It's so easy, isn't it? 633 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: Until it's not. Now here's why it doesn't make sense. 634 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: You're never supposed to think this deeply about it. But 635 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: trust me, this is not deep thinking. This is a 636 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: pretty basic math. Your odds. If we're going to assume 637 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: that the odds making industry is good at what they do, 638 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: your odds of hitting any one bet, Just straight up, 639 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: your odds of hitting Auburn minus two and a half 640 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: or Old Miss plus two and a half this Saturday, 641 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: it should be fifty to fifty, right, roughly fifty to 642 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: fifty about one to one. Your odds of winning that 643 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: one bet theoretically fifty to fifty. Again, if you have 644 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: a little angle on something, you may give yourself a 645 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: little edge, but in general broad strokes purposes, your odds 646 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: of hitting that better fifty to fifty. Okay, what about 647 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: two teams at the same time, a two team parlay? 648 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: If your odds of hitting one bet are one in two. 649 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: Then your odds of hitting two bets at the same 650 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: time is what it's one in four? Again, broad strokes, 651 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: I know the numbers can shift slightly. Your odds of 652 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: hitting that would be one and four. Your odds of 653 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: hitting three teams, guess what it would be. It goes 654 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: from one and two to one in four to one 655 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,239 Speaker 1: in eight. Are we following? I think we're following. This 656 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: is all pretty simple. Well, what about four teams? Your 657 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: odds of hitting that it goes from one in two 658 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: to one and four to one in eight to one 659 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: in sixteen. Now I want you to think about it. 660 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: You fourteen parlay betters out there, it scales proportionately, so 661 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: the same principle applies with three with two, but a 662 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: fourteen parlay the odds we have just calculated using our 663 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: hands that the odds are roughly sixteen to one that 664 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: you hit any fourteen parlay. Does any book out there 665 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: on the planet offer sixteen to one payout? No. In fact, 666 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: if you're getting twelve to one payout, you're getting a 667 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: really good return. That is actually, as parlay payouts go, 668 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: a really good payout. It's a loser. Even the best, 669 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: they make losers. If your odds are sixteen to one 670 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: and the max payout, you're getting this twelve to one. 671 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: Guess what that makes you long term? It makes you 672 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: a loser. There is no way around the math. Guys. 673 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: You don't become the exception. You don't get hot. I 674 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: know some of you have hit these, you're supposed to 675 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: be able to hit them every now and then. I said, 676 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: the odds are sixteen to one, not sixteen million to one. Yeah, 677 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: you're talking to someone who hit two of them, the 678 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: first two he ever bet? Then guess what I did. 679 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: I threw away thousands of my parents' dollars really over 680 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: the next few years, trying to chase it again, and 681 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: I'd hit one every now and then. That's not the 682 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: way it works. It's not the way math works. So 683 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: you can either be humble enough to accept those numbers, 684 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: or you can be ignorant enough to think you're going 685 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: to be the exception to literal math. Now, what do 686 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: you think is more likely? There's also the third possibility, 687 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: and I know it's happening right now as you're listening, 688 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: One or two or five hundred of you think, well, 689 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: you've got a difference worked out. Yeah, I just went 690 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: through the typical way you bet parlays. But Josh, sometimes 691 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: I'll throw a money line in there at plus two 692 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: to eighty and so it kind of throws off your numbers. No, 693 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: it doesn't, No, it doesn't. It gets a little more 694 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: complicated for me to break down those numbers. But I 695 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: can assure you you are not betting any parlay in 696 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: any shape, form or fashion where you give yourself a 697 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: statistical greater than one to one shot of making money 698 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: against Vegas. In fact, you won't even get parlays down 699 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: to one to one. It will actually be greater odds 700 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: than that. So you will never give yourself a statistical edge, 701 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: And parlays you can give yourself if you are very 702 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,959 Speaker 1: disciplined and very skilled and understand how to shop lines, 703 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: you can give yourself a statistical slide edge if you're 704 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: betting games straight. That's why that's all we do. We 705 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: bet games straight. And I'm also a believer in two 706 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: team seven point teasers in NFL playoff situations because I 707 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: believe the style of play and tightness of lines in 708 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: the playoffs is the one time where you can weaponize 709 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: Las Vegas against itself. But even then you need to 710 00:32:58,400 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: have good teaser ods. I had a local and coal 711 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: Lumbus that offer two teams seven pointers at minus one ten. Yeah, 712 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: at that point, I don't care if push is lose. 713 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: That's a really, really good value. But anyway, that is 714 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: my long and short diatribe on the evils of parlay betting. 715 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: And even though a lot of you were nodding your 716 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: head and it made sense to you, now you're gonna 717 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: get there at eleven fifty eight Eastern time on Saturday morning, 718 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: and there it is. Those parlay returns. They're just gonna 719 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,959 Speaker 1: be too good to pass up. And you look at it, 720 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: and you're betting twenty a pop, and you say, okay, 721 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 1: I can either bet these games for twenty dollars individually 722 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: and only stand to win eighteen dollars and eighteen cents, 723 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: which is nothing. Or I can bet ten dollars on 724 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: a bunch of these parlays and win one hundred and twenty. 725 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: Oh I gotta win is one. Let me just bet 726 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: six or seven of them and if I win one, 727 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: then I made fifty dollars. Have at it, buddy, have 728 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: at it. I wish you the best of luck. That's 729 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: what you're gonna need because math is never gonna be 730 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: on your side, so you will literally need a lifetime 731 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: of luck. I'm sure you'll be the exception to the rule. 732 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: Go for it all right now that I have spoken 733 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: in such an insulting manner, it's really not insulting because 734 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: I insulted my I'm the one who is the case study. 735 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: I'm the one who went broke at fourteen years old. 736 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: So just learn. You don't have to learn all lessons 737 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: in life the hard way. It's a big myth. Hell 738 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: you got to learn lessons the hard way. No you don't, No, 739 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: you don't. How many of you have actually ever put 740 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: your hand on a hot stovetop. Some of you have, 741 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,399 Speaker 1: most of you haven't. I have not. You know why 742 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 1: because I have heard the stories of people who have. 743 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: I have seen my cousin do it. I don't have 744 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: to do it to know it's gonna hurt. Don't bet parlays, 745 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: don't be that guy or girl. Just know it's gonna 746 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: hurt your wallet. Your wallet will just cry and weep. 747 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,240 Speaker 1: And there's a reason we call it the Rama Noodle Express. 748 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 1: We are trying to keep you from being on a 749 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: diet of rama noodles. But I even I can't help 750 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,879 Speaker 1: you if you bet Parlays, so you're a lost cause 751 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: at that point. So I've spoken my piece and I 752 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: hope you heard every word. All Right, I got to 753 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: send this to Jordan to get chopped up. Thank you 754 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 1: so much. Make sure you are five star reviewing this 755 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,839 Speaker 1: podcast and make sure you are telling friends about it. 756 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: I know you are, because there is no possible way 757 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: we could be rocketing up these charts if you weren't, 758 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: because I know we haven't paid any to market the podcast. 759 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: So thank you, because you guys are the literal engine 760 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: on which this thing runs. So thank you so much. 761 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,320 Speaker 1: Until next time, we got lay Kick Live tonight, so 762 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: make sure you tuned in until then. For producer Jordan, 763 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: I'm Josh Paid. Have a great Tuesday, and God bless