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Speaker 1: At least is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly, he

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Speaker 2: is Ze Matt Williamson, and it is a Friday here

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Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh and there's no game this weekend because Steelers

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Speaker 2: played three games eleven days or ten days or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Somebody point it's ten days. I don't care. It's three

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Speaker 2: games in less than two weeks. Yeah, that's what the

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Speaker 2: reality is here. So Matt, I thought today we go

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Speaker 2: through there are some questions on our YouTube. Okay, you

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Speaker 2: know here Soccer we answer some of these questions on here.

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Speaker 2: I also want to comment on some of the comments

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Speaker 2: that were made on here.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right.

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Speaker 2: Now Steelers Nation Australia, which we appreciate, so fellaws, you

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Speaker 2: need to read the positive comments. Also, I do we

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Speaker 2: do read the I do I read. Matt doesn't read

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Speaker 4: So I've been there, but infrequent, say the least. And hey,

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Speaker 4: you guys are all wonderful. I'm looking right in the

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Speaker 4: camera actually, but ten years of writing for ESPN dot com,

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Speaker 4: I stay away from the comments more often than not.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I go in les.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I go in and interact because that's just what

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Speaker 2: I do. And sometimes we'll get into it. So, yes,

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Speaker 2: we read the negati or the positive comments, read the

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Speaker 2: negative comments.

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Speaker 3: I will rest you swell.

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Speaker 2: I will many times reply to the negative comments more

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Speaker 2: because oftentimes, well, A, they're attacking me, and B I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to let somebody put out something their truth

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Speaker 2: when it's not reality. For example, today somebody said in

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Speaker 2: a comment to me, let's not why is it.

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Speaker 3: The question?

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Speaker 2: Original question? Why does it feel like Andy Reid is

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Speaker 2: playing chess and the Steelers are playing rock paper scissors,

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Speaker 2: to which I replied, Andy Reid wasn't playing as much

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Speaker 2: chess when he didn't have Patrick Mahomes, true, to which

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Speaker 2: somebody then replied, Dale, do not do this. Andy ree

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Speaker 2: was a winning was winning playoff games and playing in

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Speaker 2: championships games before Mahomes, which is not true. He made

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Speaker 2: conference championships in the NFC in his early.

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Speaker 3: Day with the Eagles.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he then went ten years ten years, his last

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Speaker 2: few seasons with the Eagles and his first six or

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Speaker 2: seven seasons with Kansas City, a ten year period in

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Speaker 2: which he went to and four in the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I always thought he was during that

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Speaker 4: stretch pre Mahomes, he was at the Harbaugh Tomlin Peyton

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Speaker 4: level in that neighborhood. Now he's up to the Belichick world.

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Speaker 4: You know what's changed since maybe the best quarterback ever

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Speaker 4: and Belichick might have had the other one, which doesn't

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Speaker 4: hurt either.

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Speaker 2: That makes it look better. I have all the respect

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Speaker 2: in the I think I have all the respect in world. Friend,

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Speaker 2: you Reid. I think they're both excellent football coaches. But

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Speaker 2: you look a hell of a lot smarter when you

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Speaker 2: got the best quarterback in the league.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean so to Reid's credit, if you look

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Speaker 4: at his history, he took a lot of ty Detmer

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Speaker 2: Winning any games. Else was taking teams with like Mason

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Speaker 4: He got crushed for time management. You know, you always

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Speaker 4: got your nose in your play sheet. You're not dealing

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Speaker 4: with all the head coaching stuff. And then he got

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Speaker 4: McNabb and it got better. They went to Super Bowl,

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Speaker 4: they took away when a step further, I mean it

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Speaker 4: was a Pro Bowl quarterback, very very good player. I mean, yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 4: They used like the fourth pick in the draft form

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Speaker 4: about enough, but I think needs to be there. In

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Speaker 4: camp of the season, he left. His son, who worked

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Speaker 4: I don't know how he even coached the rest of

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Speaker 4: It's like I'm getting out. They didn't have a great year. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean, of course. So he goes to Kansas City

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Speaker 4: And people forget this little nugget. They were a playoff

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Speaker 4: like we're terrible. Alex Smith was good. He was a

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Speaker 2: First over overall pick in a draft, yes.

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Speaker 3: Right, and he was put up. He had his best

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Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, the Steelers beat them in the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, right, right, with Reid as the head coach, and

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Speaker 4: then he gets a transcendent player, you know, and the

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Speaker 4: rest is history and there on their way to be

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Speaker 4: in one of the better dynasties of all time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: By the way, the Steelers also loved the Homes Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Kevin Colbert was a big Patrick Mahomes guy. They brought

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Speaker 2: he wasn't even the first quarterback. We're the second quarterback

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Speaker 4: Right, I mean, the Bears traded from two to three

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Speaker 3: I think it was eleven to get Mahomes. Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 3: so now they're quite good.

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Speaker 2: And again, I have all the respect in the world

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Speaker 2: for Andy Reid, but he looks a hell of a

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Speaker 2: lot smarter with that guy running his offense.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, and and they Tana and Walsh to their to

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Speaker 4: their credit, they didn't rush to play him because they

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Speaker 2: They still had it right Smith.

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Speaker 4: They had a nice plan. Yeah, because Smith was a

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Speaker 4: he had bad injuries, and then Mahomes is too good

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Speaker 4: on playing him his rookie year. Yeah, because he was

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Speaker 2: This is another one that I got Dale's cold take

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Speaker 2: But tj and indeed don't get Mahomes. Don't get the

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Speaker 2: But Matt had the same exact take.

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Speaker 3: We both thought their tackles.

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Speaker 2: Think, guess what the Chiefs know their tackles aren't very good. Right,

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Speaker 2: Hence Mahomes gets the ball out in two point three

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Speaker 2: So I think that needs to be unpacked more because

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Speaker 4: But it was like Greg inventions. It's derived because of

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Speaker 4: you know, meat taste terrible. We gonna vent catch up,

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Speaker 4: you know whatever it is, you know, Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 4: like it's because this isn't working. His mind is so

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Speaker 4: sharp as a quarterback, he's to the point now I

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Speaker 4: always talk about the axis, you know, like the game

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Speaker 4: has slowed down to he's at his peak, meant to

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Speaker 4: lead it. But he hasn't declined at all physically right,

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Speaker 4: which makes me wonder if he's even his peak as

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Speaker 3: But anyway, he has it.

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Speaker 4: All, and I felt like we should have been on

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Speaker 4: this more. Actually is okay. Their tackles stink. What are

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Speaker 4: they gonna do? They're gonna get it out quick? Well,

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Speaker 4: what do you do to combat that? It'd be nice

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Speaker 4: if you could play man coverage and bang people with

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Speaker 3: So all of a sudden, it's like you're hoping.

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Speaker 4: Mahomes screws up and he didn't, you know, enough, not

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Speaker 4: enough right, So if he gets it out what two

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Speaker 2: I said, you saying Bolt's not getting there two point

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Speaker 4: That means there's a lot of snaps that are to

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Speaker 3: They schemed three up.

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Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, when they did scheme it up,

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Speaker 2: that's when Juwan Taylor had two holding penalties like yeah.

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Speaker 4: And he's gonna extend stuff and he's gonna run around. Now,

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Speaker 4: I think on those plays, if you go two four

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Speaker 3: Get through the pressures. Right, you're not getting right, I mean,

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Speaker 4: But there were probably I'm guessing six to eight pass

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Speaker 4: dropbacks that were two seven or longer. Okay, you could

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Speaker 4: get better pressure, like I'm sure the Steelers aren't thrilled

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Speaker 4: with the pressure they got. No, but he also maneuvers

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Speaker 4: kept talking about the b gaps. He kept hitting this,

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Speaker 4: you know. I mean, he's one of the most difficult

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Speaker 2: You're not gonna get him right at all. Right, it's

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Speaker 2: just not gonna happen. You know. The week before that

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Speaker 2: he was sacked once in that game and he'd gotten

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Speaker 2: was a little bit I know, it was very low.

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Speaker 2: It was a little slower than that.

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Speaker 2: So I then got to ask, well, if that's the case,

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Speaker 2: why didn't the Steelers do that. Well, they thought their

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Speaker 4: To hold up hm And Wilson's a deep ball thrower.

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Speaker 4: He's never a low target time to throw guy. He's

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Speaker 4: gotten them. It's lower here than any point in his career,

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Speaker 4: and he's had some games that are low.

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Speaker 2: You know it was it was two point seven seconds, right.

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Speaker 3: Near the top of the league the worst. That's highest.

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Speaker 2: In fact, if you looked at and I looked this

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Speaker 2: on Christmas Day, let me find this here? Whoops, the

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Speaker 2: four quarterbacks, the four quarterbacks who played that day, it

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Speaker 2: was let me find it. This is good radio, Okay.

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Speaker 2: So Stroud was at three point one seconds on Christmas

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Speaker 2: Day on Christmas the four teams that played day, not

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Speaker 2: season to day. No, Stroud was at three point one seconds.

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Speaker 2: Lamar Ja action was at three point sixty seven.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes he's incredibly high. Yes, I mean he'll run around there.

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Speaker 3: His players.

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Speaker 2: You watched them play last night where Caleb Williams late

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Speaker 2: in the game, scrambled around and finally hit the pass

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Speaker 2: on was a fourth down pass, fourth and ten. Yeah

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Speaker 2: to DJ Moore, it's like six seconds.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, so that's skew things quite a bit.

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Speaker 2: he was at two point eight five seconds of that game.

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Speaker 2: Actually for the Sill that's that's under three.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't there, and everybody complained about it.

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Speaker 2: Everybody complained about it. So that's what you want to see,

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, right, their receivers.

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Speaker 4: And one thing we said leading in that definitely held

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but his stuff is peeped lately. And the other

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Speaker 2: Another comment that I got no way, And again I

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Speaker 3: No, No.

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Speaker 2: I brought that up to show that even when things

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Speaker 3: Yeah, doesn't mean it will.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying at all.

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Speaker 4: So somebody said, I mean, by that standard, it'd be like, well,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's not what I was saying. All right, right,

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Speaker 3: I remember Manning ripped them up. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: They then came home and lost thirty eight to thirty

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that the Steelers two thousand and five.

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Speaker 3: One.

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Speaker 4: And I don't think you said this team's better than

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Speaker 2: That team was coming off a fifteen in one year. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm sure the sky was falling. Fire everybody, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Again, if you turn it tuning into this show to

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Speaker 2: damn show. That's all I'm gonna say. Because we're not

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Speaker 2: more realistically. And what's going to happen here? And there's

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Speaker 2: still season left. They're still gonna play a game next weekend.

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Speaker 2: At some point, they're gonna play two, right, right, But

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's funny.

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Speaker 4: I do a one weekly hit on the Lockdown NFL channel,

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Speaker 4: he knows I'm Steeler oriented, but if I wasn't, we

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: He's like, what on earth are people complaining about Tom

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Speaker 4: And he's a good now analyst and and he basically said, okay,

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Speaker 4: so they're not quite as good as the best teams

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Speaker 3: Three in the stretch. Why is this late breaking news?

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Speaker 3: I hear you.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'll I don't think they're as good as

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Speaker 2: Well, that was one of the other comments that I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Giants were a nice stretch.

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Speaker 2: The Giants were a nice start to that. The Browns,

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Speaker 4: Right right, Yeah, starting with the Eagles is awful hando.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was an awful.

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Speaker 2: Way to start that stretch.

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Speaker 4: That's the hardest opening round. It's like fighting Tyson.

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Speaker 2: Houston got Miami at home. You know, they weren't the

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Speaker 4: And the workload asked of that defense in that Eagles

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Speaker 4: I also think there's some good and bad to this.

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Speaker 4: If you do that, it's sure nice to have a

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Speaker 2: But you did have some mini buys in there that

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Speaker 4: Well, and not to mention the Ravens rest stuff is

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Speaker 2: Know now that situation won't have the Ravens.

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Speaker 3: The Chiefs are playing great, yeah yea yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Good for them. They've the deal with Netflix is for

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Speaker 4: It's the worst day of the week for Christmas to

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Speaker 3: I mean it win a lot, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Right, you know, and you know you're missing guys, You're

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Speaker 3: That's to me is the bottom line. Those three teams

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Speaker 2: You know that's of course, people on here call me

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Speaker 4: I mean, personally, my goal not to entertain. It's the inform.

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Speaker 2: We're not going to sing songs, we're not going to

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Speaker 4: Know, compare to the other thirty one teams and what

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Speaker 4: they're going through, and I think that's what we bring.

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Speaker 3: To the table.

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Speaker 2: That's what we try to do here. Just bring you

442
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Speaker 2: information and you can make your own decisions about what

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Speaker 2: you believe in what you don't believe And if you

444
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Speaker 2: don't want to listen to to what what we feel

445
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Speaker 2: about this, and you know that's that's your prerogative. Well

446
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Speaker 2: that's the great thing about America. Well, and I love fandom.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I love fandom, and I understand a lot

448
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Speaker 4: of you guys listening aren't happy with how things have

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Speaker 4: gone in the last three days.

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Speaker 3: People don't. Facility aren't either.

451
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Speaker 2: They're even less.

452
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Speaker 4: I haven't been there since, but I'm not psyched to go.

453
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Speaker 2: To be honest, they're even less happy about this than

454
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Speaker 2: you are, because this is what they do.

455
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Speaker 3: They're not singing jingle bells down there is.

456
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Speaker 2: They can't turn the TV off and get away from this, right,

457
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Speaker 2: they're living this.

458
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Speaker 3: They have to figure out how to get it right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So anyways, I'm down off my soapbox.

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Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 2: But we did answer some questions on here that yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know.

463
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Speaker 3: I'm five with that too.

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Speaker 4: If you guys ever just want to ask questions in general,

465
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Speaker 4: like a mailbag type of thing.

466
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Speaker 3: Throw it out. Oh.

467
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Speaker 2: One last question I did want to get to here

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Speaker 2: is I was asked if any chance that Troy Filotano

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Speaker 2: is activated in January. I don't see that happening. He's

470
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Speaker 2: at the facility, he's been working out, but he's not

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Speaker 2: practiced at all him.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's obviously making progress.

473
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he's walking around. There's no the same

474
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Speaker 2: thing with Cameron Johnston. Cameron Johnson's now out of the apparatus,

475
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Speaker 2: the apparatus that he had on his knee. As said,

476
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Speaker 2: you know, Fileatana, they're both you know, probably I don't know, well,

477
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Speaker 2: probably not with Johnston. But you know, if Filotano had

478
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Speaker 2: to come back and play, could he perhaps, But would

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Speaker 2: it be fair to him to say, Okay, you haven't

480
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Speaker 2: played football since September as a rookie and we're going

481
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Speaker 2: to bring it back out and threw you right into

482
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Speaker 2: the lineup. Probably not.

483
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Speaker 4: I mean, I hope he gets to this point. But

484
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Speaker 4: it's not Mike Webster's eighth year in the league, you know,

485
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Speaker 4: or Joe Green's coming back and I'm putting them in

486
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Speaker 4: the line up no matter what.

487
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Speaker 3: You know, I mean, right, I mean.

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Speaker 4: It's just you don't know. Yeah, I mean, how could

489
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Speaker 4: you possibly bench any tackle?

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Speaker 3: Really? I mean, like where would you put him? I

491
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Speaker 3: don't even know at the moment. You know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe he's better than both those guys. I hope

493
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Speaker 4: he is, but.

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Speaker 2: You've only had one game to show it, right, And

495
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Speaker 2: that's the unfair part of it. But anyways, let's get

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Speaker 2: through a break. He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lollie.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 2: When we return, we'll be joined by Steelers Sideline reporter

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Speaker 2: Missy Matthews right after this.

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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt williamsonsha on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolli. He is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and this is the Drive on the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Audio Network. And we're joined now on the Justin Miller

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Speaker 2: hot Line. Bye, Steelers Sideline reporter Missy Matthews. Missy is

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Speaker 2: also the bringer of the Cake. Missy brought class cake

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Speaker 2: to Actually I believe that Rob but King tweeted out

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Speaker 2: a photo of said cake before it was demolished in

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Speaker 2: the in the radio booth, they got the nice little

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Speaker 2: Santa Claus cake. It didn't look like Santa Claus by

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Speaker 2: the time I got to it.

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Speaker 4: But you say demolished, you mean eating like crazy? Yeah, okay, yeah, okay.

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Speaker 2: I had no idea, Missy. I had no idea that

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Speaker 2: thing was a Santa Claus cake when I got there,

516
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Speaker 2: because it was just a pile of cake at that point.

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Speaker 2: I saw the picture from Rob and like, oh, it

518
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Speaker 2: was Santa Claus. But it was delicious, Yeah it was.

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Speaker 5: It was a Steeler Santa. He even had EyeBlack on.

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Speaker 5: But he did not last very long, and it was

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Speaker 5: weird as people started eating you know, eyes and parts

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Speaker 5: of his mouth and whatnot.

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Speaker 2: He probably lasted longer than the Steelers did in that game.

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Speaker 5: That was no doubt. There was still part, like maybe

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Speaker 5: a slice or two depending on you know, who is

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Speaker 5: cutting it left after the game, which I was actually

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Speaker 5: impressed that that was left. I thought it would have

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Speaker 5: been completely gone.

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Speaker 2: It was sitting there in front of west Euler the

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Speaker 2: entire game, so I'm sure he was nibbling as the

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Speaker 2: game went on.

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Speaker 5: They definitely some at half time.

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Speaker 4: I know that it Yeah, well that was very kind

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Speaker 4: of you spreading.

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Speaker 2: Missy.

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Speaker 5: I cried.

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Speaker 2: We saw at the game on Wednesday, sounds strange to

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Speaker 2: say it does. Once again, a lot of defensive miscommunications

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Speaker 2: and you saw some frustrations boil over into the locker

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Speaker 2: room after the game with guys talking about that. And

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Speaker 2: I know fans look at this and go, how is

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Speaker 2: this happening in week sixteen and seventeen, And Deshaun Elliott

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Speaker 2: said the same thing. This is a week one and

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Speaker 2: two problem, not a week not you know, not something

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Speaker 2: that should be happening at this time.

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Speaker 3: Of the season.

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Speaker 2: H Take take us through what you see on the sideline,

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Speaker 2: like a general, the defense comes off the field, whether

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Speaker 2: they give up a touchdown, whether they had a good stop.

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Speaker 2: What what then happens?

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Speaker 3: How?

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Speaker 2: How does a breakdown happen? Which which group goes where?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 2: You know, do they you know, just Taro Austin come

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Speaker 2: over and talk to the group? Does it just a

556
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Speaker 2: position coaches? How does that all work?

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Speaker 5: Well? They all offense and defense have very specific places

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Speaker 5: where they sit when they come off the bench. You know,

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Speaker 5: It's always funny when like Chris Boswell and them are

560
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Speaker 5: sitting at the end that's usually where like the dbs are.

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Speaker 5: They're allowed down there, but you're not going to find

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Speaker 5: like a Cam Heyward over there sitting on that part

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Speaker 5: of the bench. It's very regimented, and it usually is

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Speaker 5: the position coaches talking to them first, but TA typically

565
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Speaker 5: always ends up talking to the secondary guys. I feel

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Speaker 5: like they're furthest on the bench, they're closest to probably

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Speaker 5: you know where he's coming from. Has a conversation with them.

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Speaker 5: But then it is, you know, there there was a

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Speaker 5: time where Pa brought the whole defense together at one point,

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Speaker 5: like Tomlin has done it multiple times during this three

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Speaker 5: game stretch, trying to regroup, refocus and figure it out

572
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Speaker 5: because as you said, I thought, you know, Deshaun Elliott

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Speaker 5: was very blunt. He was very emotional and heated, and

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Speaker 5: I get it. It was right after the game and

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Speaker 5: that was not a fun locker room to be in.

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Speaker 5: Many guys didn't even want to talk. But he's right, like,

577
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Speaker 5: these are not problems that should be happening now. It

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Speaker 5: would be one thing if it was you know, weeks

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Speaker 5: one through four and you're like, all right, they really

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Speaker 5: need there's new pieces they need to work through it.

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Speaker 5: It does just feel like because it has gotten worse

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Speaker 5: with each of the three losses, and just the open guys.

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Speaker 5: You just think of Travis Kelsey's touchdown, even the tight

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Speaker 5: ends in Baltimore where you're like how and why? You

585
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Speaker 5: know you can say injuries. Max starkstucked a lot about

586
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Speaker 5: just the fatigue and the battle that these guys have

587
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Speaker 5: to go through to play those three games in eleven days,

588
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Speaker 5: being that you were playing Philly, Baltimore and the rating

589
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Speaker 5: Super Bowl champs. You know, it wasn't like you were

590
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Speaker 5: taking a train to or to play the Giants after

591
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Speaker 5: your bye week and getting to stay home and host

592
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Speaker 5: a team and then going to play a team that's

593
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Speaker 5: you know, in the playoffs but not doing very well.

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Speaker 5: Yeah it's their own shade, but yeah.

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Speaker 3: We did last a little bit too.

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Speaker 5: But it's true. I mean, when you just look that

597
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Speaker 5: stretch was brutal. It didn't matter if this was weeks three, four,

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Speaker 5: and five. Playing those three teams in eleven days is

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Speaker 5: not ideal, and I think especially because they were dealing

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Speaker 5: with the injuries on the defense, especially because you did

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Speaker 5: not have George Pickens and everyone, you know, the Browns

602
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Speaker 5: game when he didn't play. Oh they're good. Look we

603
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Speaker 5: don't even need George Pickens. They won, they won without them.

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Speaker 5: And then you go play a real team and you're like, oh,

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Speaker 5: oh yeah, we we kind of like when four teams

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Speaker 5: in the lineup, you know, and then it was how

607
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Speaker 5: how soon can we get them back? Take deal? So yeah,

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Speaker 5: I think the only bright spot is that they have

609
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Speaker 5: ample and that time to regroup. There's still one regular

610
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Speaker 5: season game left, work out your kinks, figure it out,

611
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Speaker 5: because you're only guaranteed one playoff game, and we all

612
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Speaker 5: know that that is being one and done is not

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Speaker 5: going to go over well in this town, in this organization.

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Speaker 5: For these players are coaches, so they need to figure

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Speaker 5: it out and figure it out very quickly.

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Speaker 3: So you sort of touched on it.

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Speaker 4: But over this three game losing streak, I mean, has

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Speaker 4: the level of angst on the sidelines increased? I mean,

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Speaker 4: was this definitely the one that was most noticeable and

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Speaker 4: or that of all three been similar.

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Speaker 5: I feel like Philly was kind of like you were

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Speaker 5: hoping it was, you know, just like going to be

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Speaker 5: a one off, and it felt like they were not.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to say finger pointing, but I really

625
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Speaker 5: feel like that is what it kind of turned into

626
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Speaker 5: where Baltimore you could really see that people were starting

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Speaker 5: to lose it and didn't feel like everybody was doing

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Speaker 5: their job and didn't feel like, you know, everybody was

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Speaker 5: on the same page. And then, of course, I think,

630
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Speaker 5: you know, Christmas Day, you're excited, you want to go

631
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Speaker 5: back home and be with your family, celebrate, and you

632
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Speaker 5: knew you needed to win that game to make it

633
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Speaker 5: easier on yourself to win the AFC North, and that

634
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Speaker 5: just seemed to be I think. I think the lack

635
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Speaker 5: of complimentary football and just the fact that the offense

636
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 5: and defense both need fixed. I think that's where you

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Speaker 5: really start to see the overpouring of the emotions and frustrations,

638
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Speaker 5: which makes sense. You know. Coach Sutlon sat down at

639
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 5: his press conference and little literally started it with, well,

640
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Speaker 5: that sucked. And I'm sure he could have used other

641
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Speaker 5: choice words, probably just you know, wouldn't have been used

642
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Speaker 5: on air afterwards, but that that pretty much summed it up.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he did use more choice words with the

644
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Speaker 2: team in the locker room before he came over, and

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00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 2: that was the work. You know, he had actually had

646
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Speaker 2: some a little bit of time to calm down and

647
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 2: was still perturbed by how things had gone in that game.

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Speaker 2: And I think largely, Missy, to me it was because

649
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Speaker 2: of how this particular game unfolded. In those previous two games,

650
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Speaker 2: the Steelers had gotten behind but then had fought back

651
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Speaker 2: in the third quarter going into the fourth quarter to

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Speaker 2: make a game of things this one against You know,

653
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Speaker 2: the only thing that would have changed perhaps the outcome

654
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Speaker 2: or kind of the trajectory of this game is if

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Speaker 2: George Pickens hadn't been whistled dead early at the end

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Speaker 2: of the first half on that play where he broke

657
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Speaker 2: free and ran down the sidelines and they hadn't whistled

658
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 2: the play dead. If they score there, it makes it

659
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 2: fourteen thirteen Steelers at the half, and you know, this

660
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 2: kind of changes the trajectory of the ball game. As

661
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 2: it was. They got the sixteen to ten in the

662
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 2: third quarter and then Kansas City just pulled away.

663
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think, you know, even go back to

664
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 5: the Jalen Warren touchdown that was called back to the

665
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 5: holding call on Darnell. If, like you said, even if

666
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 5: one of those went the Steeler's way, imagine if both

667
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 5: went the Steelers way. I just think they knew coming

668
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 5: in that Patrick Mahomes is Patrick Mahomes, does not matter

669
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 5: if it's a high ankle sprain, how severe whatever, He's

670
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 5: dealt with them before, he knows what he's doing. But

671
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 5: just how quickly he was able to get the ball out.

672
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 5: He was not going to give their pass rush time

673
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 5: to get to them and to throw them off, and

674
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 5: they just they executed. And like you said, once the

675
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 5: second quarter or the second half, excuse me, got going,

676
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 5: that's where you kind of just you felt the letdown

677
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 5: really start to happen. And then you're like, oh crap,

678
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 5: now this is this is three in a row. This

679
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,959
Speaker 5: isn't just this game, it's it's three in a row.

680
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 5: We were ten and three and now here we sit

681
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 5: at ten and six.

682
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a very buttoned up, clean performance by

683
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 4: the Chiefs when they didn't screw things up hardly at all.

684
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 4: And I thought Mahomes probably played his best game of

685
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 4: the year. Regardless of who the defense is. I mean

686
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 4: a lot of it's just how well of what level

687
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 4: he plays at was it pretty impressive just to watch

688
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 4: him in action at game level, you know, to be

689
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 4: where your seat is and watch an all time great player.

690
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 5: No doubt, And you know I've gotten to see him

691
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 5: a few times over the years in different circumstances of

692
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 5: you know, games and whatnot. But like you said, I

693
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 5: just think it was the level of execution. Just it's

694
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 5: really remarkable to watch how quickly he gets the ball out,

695
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 5: goes exactly where it's going, just even how his receiving

696
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 5: core and running backs know what is happening and it's

697
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 5: happening that quickly, and they're just able to get the

698
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 5: chunks and keep moving and to just gash the Steelers defense.

699
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 3: But it's that.

700
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 4: Precise, but it's almost indefensible. But it's that precise timing, right, correct.

701
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, like that slants Hollywood Brown. I was just like, whoa,

702
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 5: you know, you just have one of those like, Wow,

703
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 5: they're wheeling and dealing, and hey, I give them credit.

704
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 5: They had to come to Pittsburgh on a short week.

705
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 5: That's not fun. We've all lived through the Thursday night games.

706
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 5: I know this was Wednesday, but playing on Saturday makes

707
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 5: it like a Thursday schedule. And then also the fact

708
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 5: that they're playing for the one seat.

709
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 3: Now they know.

710
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 5: The playoffs can run through Arrowhead and they have a

711
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 5: first round by and for everybody who's hurt, they're able

712
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 5: to heal up. I mean, imagine if Chris Jones played

713
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 5: that game. You just think about the five stacks that

714
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 5: Russell Wilson took that, you know, I mean everyone on

715
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 5: the offense gave up, and you just think, like, man,

716
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 5: it could have been worse potentially, which is a scary thing.

717
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

718
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 2: Absolutely, But Missy won't take up any more of your time.

719
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 2: On day off, you get to spend some time with

720
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 2: you boys and do all that fun stuff. Kind of

721
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 2: wallowing a pit losh yesterday.

722
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 3: Wow, I took kick it at all.

723
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 2: It took seven days long to complete, seemingly, but you know,

724
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 2: it is what it is. Just not a good couple

725
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 2: of days here in Pittsburgh.

726
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 3: Was there a bunch of safeties at the end of

727
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 3: the game or something weird?

728
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:13,399
Speaker 2: You go for two every time?

729
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 5: Okay, you go when you go for two? Yeah, yeah,

730
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,720
Speaker 5: I say. It took years off my life. It literally

731
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 5: took hours off my life. I was not as productive

732
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 5: as I anticipated being when my boys went to hockey

733
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 5: practice last night because the game was still on when

734
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 5: they got help.

735
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 2: That there you go. Our guest has been Missy. Matthew

736
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 2: Steelers sideline reporter Missy. We appreciate you dropping by. Of

737
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 2: course Missy does so every Friday. Here on the drive,

738
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,919
Speaker 2: he is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lollie. We'll be back

739
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 2: with more right after this.

740
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Speaker 1: This he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

741
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,919
Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

742
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

743
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 2: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolly. He is the

744
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and this is the Drive on the Steelers

745
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 2: Audio Network. And of course you can hear the Drive

746
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 2: every Monday through Friday from four to six pm on

747
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 2: these very airwaves where you can download the Steelers mobile

748
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,240
Speaker 2: app and get it that way, or watch on YouTube

749
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 2: and pavis your comments and maybe sometimes we'll answer your

750
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 2: questions in the comments.

751
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 3: Matt.

752
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 2: For this next segment, I wanted to look at the

753
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 2: preseason over under totals. Okay, see who's gotten there and

754
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,760
Speaker 2: who hasn't to this with one game or two games left,

755
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 2: so leading things off their I'm looking here at Pro

756
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 2: Football Reference. They break everything that they did this nicely.

757
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 2: They have the win loss over under in one column

758
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 2: and then their actual record. Now I don't have to

759
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 2: go back and forth.

760
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 3: That's perfect.

761
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 2: So the Arizona Cardinals, they're over under to start the

762
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 2: season was seven.

763
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,280
Speaker 4: I remember that thinking that was quite high considering their defense.

764
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 2: Now they're seven and eight.

765
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they they all kicked them on the eye

766
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 4: coverage with them over with two games left, they pretty quick.

767
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 4: They could get there. They could get over they could

768
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 4: get over right. I don't love their chances, but could.

769
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 2: The Atlanta Falcons over under was nine and a half.

770
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 2: They're eight and seven.

771
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 4: A lot of that was based on a super easy

772
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 4: schedule preseason, you know, and that doesn't always play out,

773
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 4: but I like their chances.

774
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,439
Speaker 2: The Baltimore Ravens over under was ten and five. They're

775
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 2: now eleven and five with one game remaining, so they've

776
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 2: hit their over it. Yeah yeah. Buffalo Bills over under

777
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 2: was ten and they croshed it twelve and three right now.

778
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

779
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 4: A lot of people, myself included, thought this would be

780
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 4: a slight step back year.

781
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 3: You traded digs, you know, get your books in order.

782
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 3: But they've been really good.

783
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,439
Speaker 2: The Carolina Panthers over under five and a half. They're

784
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 2: four and eleven right now. They had three or four

785
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 2: they got a shot to get there.

786
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 3: They do.

787
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 2: Now they need to win their final two games to

788
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 2: do so. But they've been very competitive over the last year.

789
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 2: I know they have five or six weeks, they have Tampa.

790
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 4: Bay Tampa and then they have another it's either Saints

791
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 4: or Falcons have a division game of course to finish it.

792
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe maybe, I mean, considering how bad things were

793
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 4: at early deseason.

794
00:36:55,840 --> 00:37:00,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Chicago Bears, they're definitely under. They're over. Under

795
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 2: was eight and a half. They're four and twelve.

796
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, last night didn't do me.

797
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,280
Speaker 2: Last night was a disaster. Actually, they're four and thirteen.

798
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 3: After No. Four and twelve, there are four and twelve.

799
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, that includes them.

800
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 3: Last night's disaster really bad.

801
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:16,280
Speaker 2: You wouldn't see a how not the handle clock management

802
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 2: at the end of the half. That's twice now this year.

803
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 2: It cost you the last it costs Naggy as jaw

804
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 2: or not Naggy flu Eberflus job when he butchered that

805
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 2: one against the Lions, Well they butchered again us or

806
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 2: horrendous horrendous Eberflus doesn't have any excuse. This guy was

807
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 2: a position goes five or six weeks ago. I mean

808
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 2: he got promoted and promoted in promoted twice A yeah,

809
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 2: but that was insane. So they're four and twelve. They're

810
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 2: well under.

811
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

812
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 2: The Cincinnati Bengals, well under ten and a half was

813
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 2: the over under. They're seven and eight.

814
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 3: Not getting there.

815
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 2: No, the Cleveland Browns, well, they were over under was

816
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 2: eight and a half, higher than the Steelers, I might add,

817
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 2: they're three and twelve.

818
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, not even close.

819
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 2: The Dallas Cowboys under but sort of explainable. They're over

820
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 2: under was ten. They're seven and eight.

821
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 4: And maybe they'll win another or whatever. They're obviously they're

822
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 4: not going to.

823
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 2: Be awfully difficult now that cd.

824
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 4: Lamb GOTA shut down and right they're in Philly this

825
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 4: week or against Philly this week.

826
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 2: The Denver Broncos over under was five and a half.

827
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 2: I know they're nine and six. He knows how to

828
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 2: he knows how to win games. I mean, he has

829
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 2: a winning record as a Denver head coach. And they're

830
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 2: not loaded with talent. You know, they've had quarterback changes

831
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 2: and give them credit. The Detroit Lions beat the Bengals,

832
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 2: by the way, I think they are too and we'll

833
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 2: get to that later in the show. The Detroit Lions

834
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 2: over under was ten and a half. They're thirteen and two.

835
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 2: They crushing it, Yeah, crushing it. Green Bay Packers over

836
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 2: under was ten. They're eleven and four. Blue right by it,

837
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 2: and they got two tough games coming up.

838
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 4: But okay, there's a lot of over so far, but

839
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,919
Speaker 4: we're only at the gs. I think some of it's

840
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 4: there's so many three win teams that are so far under, and.

841
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 2: Some of the unders are the unders are real. The

842
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 2: Browns und the Bears, Bears were way under their total.

843
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 2: The Houston Texans over runner nine and a half. They're

844
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 2: nine and seven.

845
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 3: Not positive they'll get there.

846
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 2: I don't know.

847
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:17,479
Speaker 3: They got one more.

848
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 2: Right they made They have nothing to play for it

849
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 2: last year?

850
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I say, why would they even bother?

851
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 2: Indianapolis Colts over under eight and a half. They're seven

852
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 2: and eight, okay, and in their favorite against the Giants,

853
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 2: and then I should favor in their last two games. Yeah,

854
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 2: I know they played a division game play either the

855
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 2: Titans or the Jaguars, one of the two.

856
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if Richardson's even playing this week, but

857
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 4: they'll still beat the Giants.

858
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 2: Jacksonville's over under eight and a half.

859
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, they were considered a playoff fringe type.

860
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 2: Three and twelve.

861
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, three and twelve, brutal.

862
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 2: Kansas City's over under eleven and a half. They're fifteen

863
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 2: and one. The Raiders over under six and a half.

864
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 3: There's three and twelve, not getting there.

865
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 2: The Chargers over under was nine. They're nine and six.

866
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

867
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 4: I was big on the over on or the under

868
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 4: on that team.

869
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 2: The Rams over under eight and a half nine and six,

870
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 2: say they're over right, Yeah. The Dolphins over under was

871
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 2: ten seven and eight.

872
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

873
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 2: Minnesota's over under six and a half by more than that,

874
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 2: thirteen and two, the only one in the city's pretty high.

875
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 2: Kansas City's only three and a half games over, they're

876
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 2: over under them. Minnesota's five. Yeah, six and a half over.

877
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 3: They could lose either two or they could win either too.

878
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter that they're six and a half over

879
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 2: their win total. The Patriots over under was four and

880
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 2: a half. They're three and twelve.

881
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, right now, they had the second pick in the draft.

882
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. The Saints over under was seven and a half,

883
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 2: not getting they're five and ten. The Giants over under

884
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 2: was six and a half. Two and thirteen.

885
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 3: Brutal. Yeah, some of these bad teams are far off.

886
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 2: The Jets over under nine and a half. They're four

887
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 2: and eleven. Right, The Eagles over under was ten and

888
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 2: a half, they're twelve and three.

889
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 3: Beat it.

890
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 2: The Steelers over under eight ten and six.

891
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

892
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 2: San Francisco's over under eleven and a half. They're six

893
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 2: and nine. One of the more disappointing ones for sure.

894
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 2: Seattle's over under was seven and a half. They're nine

895
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 2: and seven.

896
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 4: Really successful year for them. I mean last night wasn't

897
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 4: a pillar, it wasn't a Beau duty. But now you

898
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 4: got the win, you know, so alive.

899
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay's over under was seven and a half. Over

900
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 2: they're eight and seven. Tennessee's over under six and a

901
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 2: half they're three and twelve.

902
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 3: Not getting there.

903
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 2: And the Commander's over under, oh they had to be

904
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 2: a big one was six and a half. They're get

905
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:44,959
Speaker 2: ten and five.

906
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 4: I was guessing they were even lower than that preseason.

907
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 4: They end up being gonna be somewhere between a ten

908
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 4: and twelve win.

909
00:41:51,120 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 2: Team given everything. So you got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,

910
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 2: eight eight teams this year with four or fewer wins. Yeah, Yeah,

911
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 2: there wasn't an over under in the league this year.

912
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 3: I think four is a very four and a half.

913
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 2: Was the was the Patriots was the lowest. Yeah, and

914
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 2: we're gonna have eight teams go under the under.

915
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 4: I mean when you see ten or five, right, I

916
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 4: mean there's a little bit of the play but they'll

917
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 4: be six.

918
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,479
Speaker 2: Do we see that get adjusted next year?

919
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 3: I don't know.

920
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 4: I mean it was a really bad year for the

921
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 4: number of bad teams, you know. I mean even like

922
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 4: Browns and Jags, they were considered playoff fringe teams, you know,

923
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 4: expectations wise.

924
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, let's just look through that. Who are

925
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 2: the biggest disappointments this year? I think San Francisco, the

926
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 2: AFC's loaded with them. Yeah, I mean, Jets, Cincinnati.

927
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 4: Right, Yags, Miami. They all looked like, ooh, can the

928
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 4: Steelers beat them out for a wild card? You know,

929
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 4: like that was the narrative going into uh and Denver

930
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 4: stepped up. But those other teams, there were five of

931
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,760
Speaker 4: them that were good expectations did nothing.

932
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 2: No, No, you're right. I mean if you looked at

933
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 2: it at the beginning of the season, and we talked

934
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 2: about this preseason, the Steelers, when the Steelers over under

935
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 2: opened it was seven and a half and it went

936
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: up to eight because everybody look thinking, you know, I'm

937
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 2: surprised you didn't go to eight and a half. Maybe

938
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 2: it did in some places, because usually don't get eight.

939
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 3: It's almost always a half.

940
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, you always get the half out there. And I

941
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 2: don't know how Pro Football Reference does this to the

942
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 2: average amount. I'm sure one book eight and a half

943
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 2: or or seven and a half, the other ones at

944
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: eight and so they just took the average. But when

945
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 2: you look at it in that fashion, the Steelers have

946
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 2: won two more games than they were expected to win.

947
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 2: According to Las Vegas, they're ten and six. There are

948
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 2: some other teams on here, Minnesota being chief among them,

949
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 2: that have outkicked theeah But you can't look at this

950
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 2: season and say, well this season, what disappointment? No, no,

951
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: you know, now, I get it. You can be disappointed

952
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 2: by what's happened of late, yes, but nobody in their

953
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 2: right minds you and I both picked them to lose

954
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 2: in Philadelphia and in Baltimore.

955
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 4: I can't remember if I picked them to make the

956
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 4: playoffs or not. If I did, it was as a

957
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,919
Speaker 4: wild card. Yeah, it's like the rush or seventh seed.

958
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 4: You know, yeah, I didn't think all those teams in

959
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 4: the AFC would, namely Cincinnati, of all of them would

960
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 4: just fall off a cliff like I took the Bengals

961
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 4: to win division.

962
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 2: So did I?

963
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 3: Yeah?

964
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I had I had Baltimore and Pittsburgh going

965
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 2: in as wild cards.

966
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 4: I think I did too. I can't remember who was

967
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 4: two and three for me. You're talking about bigges disappointments.

968
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 4: I would say Dallas and the Niners were the two

969
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 4: biggest NFC disappointments.

970
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially the Niners in particular. Yeah, six and you

971
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 2: go six and nine right now, Yeah, you're over. Under

972
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 2: was eleven and a half, which.

973
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 3: Was and they got hit hard by injuries.

974
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 2: Eleven and a half was tied for the most year

975
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 2: of the the highest in league. If you looked at

976
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 2: the odds to go to the Super Bowl prior to

977
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 2: this season, they were in the top three.

978
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, because the NFC looked like it easier path too. Yeah,

979
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 4: I mean they may have been number one, right, they

980
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 4: didn't because Kansas City looked like they had a tougher path.

981
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 4: AFC looked a lot harder when the season started.

982
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 2: So folks, we're not We're not going through that here

983
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh. No, no, no, no, Like people are complaining

984
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: about this and that, and I get it again. Nobody

985
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 2: go over or under. They're right on the number. They

986
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 2: actually they're right under the number. Their number was an

987
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 2: another win. They're over under was nine and a half.

988
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 4: Kind of like, that's a disappointing year to me, despite

989
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 4: your nine to seven, because they had so much momentum five.

990
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 2: And one to start to see.

991
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, say that's a little bit different situation. That's a

992
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 4: second year head coach, second year quarterback. They got this,

993
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 4: you know, they've got this whole NFL thing figured out.

994
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 4: They're steamrolling through. They added Diggs, they added you know,

995
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 4: Daniel Hunter. They were ready to take a step with

996
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 4: the big boys, and they didn't. I mean, they're gonna

997
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 4: win their division, but and may even you may even

998
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 4: win your bet on the over, but you're holding on

999
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 4: by the skin of your teeth.

1000
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 2: To me, the two AFC biggest disappointments are both in

1001
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 2: this division.

1002
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 3: I did the Ohio teams.

1003
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 2: Cleveland's over under was eight and a half. Now I

1004
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 2: didn't think that was right.

1005
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 3: No, I took the under. Yeah, yeah, I.

1006
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 2: Didn't, you know, because that was counting on Deshaun Watson

1007
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 2: to be not who he had been the previous three seasons.

1008
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 2: There're three and twelve.

1009
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 4: But you could have made the argument they had the

1010
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 4: best defense in the league last year or one of

1011
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 4: and it's not.

1012
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 2: It's not been there right running game.

1013
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 5: You know.

1014
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 2: Similarly, Cincinnati's over under was ten and a half.

1015
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 3: Now I took the over on that one. I was

1016
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 3: on board with Cincinnati.

1017
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 2: There's seven and eight right now, and they can't blame

1018
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 2: a bunch of injuries.

1019
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 3: No, no, you can't.

1020
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:38,760
Speaker 2: It's the defense.

1021
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 3: It's a defense. It's very simple. What the problem is.

1022
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 3: I mean, it's one side of the ball is an actor.

1023
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 2: And that was supposed to be well, you know, I

1024
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 2: mean two years ago, lou An Orumo is he's you know,

1025
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 2: why is this guy head coach? He's been illegal? Look,

1026
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 2: well he's going with the Cincinnati defense. Yep, that's not

1027
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 2: gonna be the case this offseason.

1028
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 4: And the other thing, too, is I don't like or

1029
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 4: either like. I'd much rather be in Houston shoes or

1030
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 4: Miami's or even the Colts for the most part of

1031
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 4: now what do I do? I mean Cleveland's and they're

1032
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 4: a novel spot. I mean, at least they have Burrow.

1033
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 4: I mean that's great, but they have a lot of

1034
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 4: things they have to figure out too to get back

1035
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 4: to being a I don't know, you know, eleven twelve

1036
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 4: win team in the preseason.

1037
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 3: Of you know where you're gonna be.

1038
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 2: And the problem for Cleveland this year is that they've

1039
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 2: there's so many other bad teams out there. They're not

1040
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 2: going to be in position to draft a quarterback this year,

1041
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 2: probably not. And it's only I don't even know if

1042
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 2: you want to this year, right, you know. That's the

1043
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 2: other thing. Yeah, but it's bad.

1044
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 3: It is bad.

1045
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 4: So coincidentally, I got this thing from Sports Info Solutions

1046
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 4: today talking about who's been hit hardest by injuries and

1047
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 4: they break it down offense, defense, and a couple of

1048
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 4: the teams that just just wanted to like, who are

1049
00:47:54,840 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 4: the extremes, Packers, Bills, Commanders, Falcons, Broncos got hit the least,

1050
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 4: you know, and that adds up all those teams have

1051
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 4: had pretty darn good years. Teams hit the most, the Lions,

1052
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 4: and it's like all on defense. They have this chart,

1053
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 4: you know, and they're still managing. Browns were next. They

1054
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 4: have got hit pretty hard, but don't tell me Watson.

1055
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 4: Watson getting hurt was It's not the same as your

1056
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 4: starting quarterbacks, the.

1057
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 2: Starting quarterback right now, if he hadn't gotten.

1058
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 3: Hurt, right, Cowboys were next. That adds up.

1059
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 4: I mean they have three studs and Lamb just went

1060
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 4: on I or the other two missed massive portions. Giants, Niners,

1061
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 4: you know, those are the teams that that adds up.

1062
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 4: I mean, that's kind of what it looks like. We're

1063
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 4: the Steelers falling that the right in the middle. They

1064
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 4: are dead middle with a much more so offense getting

1065
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 4: hurt than defense.

1066
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1067
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 2: I just wonder if they considered Russell Wilson the starter

1068
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 2: to start the season.

1069
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 3: I was curious how they.

1070
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I mean, if you have a first

1071
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 4: round pick, you would he's going to be a starter,

1072
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 4: and they never got that opportunity.

1073
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, he started one game and got hurt.

1074
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1075
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 4: I actually need to click on it and read further.

1076
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 4: But there's just a charge here.

1077
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 2: It's kind of interesting because they have had i mean

1078
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 2: the offensive line injuries early in the season where.

1079
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, there was a lot of it. Yeah, I

1080
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 4: mean even pickings for a couple of games. I mean,

1081
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 4: that's a starter you know, yeah, so, yeah, they're right

1082
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 4: in the middle there. I think Firemouth missed a game

1083
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 4: or two, right, Uh no, no, has he been for all?

1084
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 3: I think so.

1085
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 2: I think he's played them. But the Steelers' injuries have

1086
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 2: kind of been clustered at the beginning of the season

1087
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 2: O line with the O line, yeah, and now late

1088
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 2: in the season with the defensive.

1089
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 3: Backs, right, which is a tough way to live.

1090
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it'd be better if you could spread

1091
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 4: them out. That's obviously not how the world works.

1092
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 2: Now, we'll see about Joey Porter junior. Maybe they get

1093
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 2: him back here, and you know, they're they're somewhat healthy

1094
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 2: again going into the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: You've dealt with a nice long break, You've dealt.

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Speaker 2: With the offensive line stuff. But you I mean, at

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Speaker 2: this point you'd love to have James Daniels and Folotano available.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean even Herbig was her big, it

1099
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Speaker 4: would have been useful there for a while. Or you know,

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Speaker 4: no question, and you know your top three picks, you

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Speaker 4: only got one out of them, and he's been a

1102
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Speaker 4: good one. Reman Wilson hasn't helped either. I mean, that's

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Speaker 4: that's we talked about that earlier in the week. I mean,

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Speaker 4: we're talking about rookie classes and things. They's got hit

1105
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Speaker 4: pretty hard by injury. Yeah, but McCormick looks like a keeper,

1106
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Speaker 4: and Fraser looks like a keeper, you know, Wilson looks

1107
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 4: like a keeper.

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Speaker 3: Peyton.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's the situation. But I thought it'd be

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Speaker 2: interesting to look at those over unders.

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Speaker 4: Next year's camp will be kind of fun from that

1112
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Speaker 4: regard is you're gonna have a whole rookie class and

1113
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Speaker 4: those two.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, by the.

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Speaker 4: Way, right right right, I mean we kind of dealt

1116
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Speaker 4: with that with Trice, but he was a seventh round pick.

1117
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Speaker 3: He was the first round pick, yeah.

1118
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Speaker 2: Right, you weren't necessarily counting on him to become something. Anyways,

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Speaker 2: let's get to a break that's going to do it

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Speaker 2: for our number one of the drive here on the

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Speaker 2: Steelers Audio Network, Matt and I'll be back with our

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Speaker 2: number two right after this.