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When 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:21.440 I walked into the interview with Kelly, I wasn't exactly 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:24.840 sure what to expect with every interview. I want to 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:27.720 be as real as possible. I mean, it saved me 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:31.000 when I was struggling with my pivot, but I also 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:33.200 know it's not fair to ask people to open up 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:35.880 their stories in a way that would make them potentially 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:39.800 feel uncomfortable. It's a tough balance at times, But with Kelly, 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:42.960 I walked out of that interview feeling like we had 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:46.040 a real story to tell about a real person with 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:49.480 real experiences. I even invited her to my house for 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:52.680 Hanukah that weekend. So when I had the chance to 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:55.960 interview Kelly, I saw another opportunity to lift up the 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:58.200 curtain a bit and see more than what the TV 0:03:58.280 --> 0:04:03.080 screen showed us. You will find is a refreshingly honest 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:07.640 conversation about the life that happens behind the camera. She 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:10.400 shares her candid reason why she went on the Housewives 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:12.600 to begin with, and it might not be what you 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:15.960 think how her mother's passing led to her biggest and 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:17.960 most filling pivot and much more. 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:25.480 My name is Kelly Colaurin Ben Simone, I'm a mother. 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:28.719 I love that. Have you always defined yourself that way? 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:29.560 Always? 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:32.200 Did you think that you were going to be a parent? 0:04:32.240 --> 0:04:32.320 Like? 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:35.040 Was that something that was a real important priority for you? 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:35.159 No? 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:36.480 And this is so strange. 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:38.880 You're asking that I went with my best friend to 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:42.680 Raoul's and there's this fortune teller that's upstairs. 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:45.560 Who like reads hands, and she's like always really spirited 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:45.960 and fun. 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:48.040 I was like, oh, I'll read my hand while I'm 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:51.480 waiting for the restroom. She was like, oh, yeah, you're 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:53.200 not going to have the life that people think you're 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:53.640 going to have. 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:58.560 I was like, young, what are you talking about. She's like, yeah, 0:04:58.600 --> 0:04:59.280 and kids. 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:01.880 I don't know if you're and have kids and your 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:05.320 life is very disjointed, she said, so. I was twenty 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:08.200 years old when she said that. I'll never forget that. 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:11.280 I mean, I love kids, you know, uninhibited, and you know, 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:14.479 sweet and kind and interested and curious. 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:17.440 Well, I mean I ask if you always thought you 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:19.960 were going to be a parent. Using my own lens. 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:22.679 I really didn't know if I was going to have kids. 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:24.800 I just really didn't think about it that much. I 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:28.640 only thought about myself in terms of my professional accomplishments 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:30.440 and what that would look like in my life. Right. 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:31.960 It was like a real shock to the system for 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:34.280 me when I actually had kids. 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:35.360 But I was. 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:38.479 Reflecting to myself the other day about. 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:40.200 One of the positives that they have that they've brought 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:42.800 that I think you just touched on is that I 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:45.560 am kind of silly at my core, and I think 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:49.640 that as I've gotten into adulthood, I suppressed that a 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:54.080 little more and found ways outlets like karaoke or like 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:57.359 going out in a ways that it felt acceptable. But 0:05:57.480 --> 0:05:59.280 now that I'm around my kids all the time, I 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:01.839 can just be silly all the time, and that's actually 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:02.680 more natural for me. 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:05.480 Yeah, it's funny that you say that, because I have 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:08.839 like a very serious side to me, but eighty percent 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:13.200 of my personality is just light and like very kid friendly, 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:15.640 I think, and you know, a lot of great things 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:18.159 that have happened to me, like I started being very 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:20.760 successful in philanthropy at a young age because I worked 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:24.839 with young kids. Like kids have always really helped me 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:27.599 to do really big things and great things. 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:30.400 So let's go back in time. Can you paint a 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:32.400 picture for us about child Kelly. 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:35.120 You have siblings. I do. I have a twin brother. 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:36.440 I have an older sister. 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:39.960 We are very very close as brother and sister and 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:40.640 as friends. 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:42.120 I'm from Rockford, Illinois. 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:45.120 I was a big swimmer. To walk to swim team 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:47.880 practice every day, so I swam, you know, two to 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:51.240 four hours a day, big, big swimmer, and just your 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:55.400 typical suburban lifestyle with a lot of sports. 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:58.880 Typically in the suburbs, you see kids like sports, sports, sports, sports. 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:00.000 I was one of them. 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:00.760 Kids. 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:03.360 Many of us had our first jobs when we were 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:06.520 in high school. Usually it was the local ice cream shop. 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:09.320 Mine was as a camp counselor. But Kelly had a 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:13.480 vastly different experience starting to model as just a sophomore 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:14.160 in high school. 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:17.800 So I started when I was fifteen, and my father 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:21.040 knew this amazing man that worked in Chicago who was 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:23.960 very connected in advertising, and he said, your daughtership model. 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:25.960 And I also. 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:28.520 Put myself into the Team Magazine contest. I had my 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:31.480 twin brother take a photo of me and submitted myself 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:35.800 into the contest, and I was runner. 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:36.520 Up to Cindy Crawford. 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:39.440 And I got this big contract with Elite, And at fifteen, 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:43.040 I was living in New York with Stephanie Seymour. It 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:47.080 was like my first day show up treatorns, white shorts, 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:50.800 Polo Shum meeting Patrick Marsh He's like, oh, she's an 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:52.880 American girl, and I was like, oh my god, this 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:53.960 maybe the wrong outfit. 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:55.360 She's the wrong outfit. 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:58.880 But I wasn't thinking, like in Chicago, you just wore clothes. 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:01.080 You didn't like have to like wear an outfit, and 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:03.040 like in New York, and that's probably what I wear. 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:05.200 Why I wear a lot of black today is you 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:07.160 had to wear black top, black. 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:08.960 Skirt and heels everywhere. 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:09.440 Yeah. 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:11.640 No, I mean you're literally wearing that right now. 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:15.320 I know that's obviously God really a great Oh. 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:17.120 Yeah, it's like every time I look for something, I'm 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:18.840 like body suit, skirt, boom. 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:22.480 What was it like moving to New York by yourself 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:23.120 at fifteen? 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:25.760 I mean I came to New York, and I worked 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:26.320 in New York. 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:28.120 But then I obviously was in high school, so I 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:30.040 had to finish high school, and I was swimming, and 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:32.640 obviously academics were super important to our family, and so 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:34.720 I had to figure out how I was going to 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:37.839 get myself into a college, all the typical things that 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:40.480 every young adult is panic amount. 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:43.120 I was in the same boat, except for I was modeling. 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:46.040 So the truth of the matter is is that I 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:48.320 wanted to go to Harvard, and I was like, I 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:50.480 want to be a pediatric surgeon. I'm going to really 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:53.080 go this route and I started modeling prior to that 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:55.840 big idea in my head, and so I'm like, I'm 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:57.640 going to apply to Harvard and I'm just going to 0:08:57.760 --> 0:08:58.240 go for it. 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:00.640 They were like, we'd like to for you, and I 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:01.280 was deferred me. 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:05.880 So instead of Harvard, she pivoted to Trinity College, where 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:06.640 her sister went. 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:09.760 At the time, it was probably the best decision I made, 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:11.800 because if I hadn't, if I'd taken the route to 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:13.720 go to Harvard, like, I would never be where I 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:14.240 am today. 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:17.480 She was still modeling at the time, trying to make 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:20.679 both her blossoming career and the academics work at the 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:21.240 same time. 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:24.000 That was an anomaly. People were not going to college 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:24.880 and modeling. 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:28.440 Modeling was a demanding job and not one that took 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:30.360 place at Trinity College. 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:33.400 Like I had to like flight a Korea, or like 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:35.600 it was like something larger than life. 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:39.360 Always, Kelly continued to bounce back and forth from her 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:42.480 modeling jobs around the world and the classroom, trying to 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:44.200 make the best of both worlds. 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:48.600 I was like this gorgeous campus, amazing academics, like the 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:52.120 hottest guys, fun girls, like it's so great, and then 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:53.400 I'd be like, oh, I got to have a go 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:55.200 hop on a train at four thirty in the morning 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:57.040 to like model for the day, and then up got 0:09:57.040 --> 0:09:59.000 a hop back on that train at six o'clock at 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:01.120 night so I could and study on the train so 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:02.560 I could go to my class. 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:04.040 I took all my classes. 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:06.440 On Tuesdays and Thursdays so I could model Monday, Wednesdays 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:09.160 and Friday. So I had a really kind of stressful 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:12.839 freshman year. So after my freshman year, my dad was 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:14.560 just like, this is like you're burning the candle at 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:17.360 both ends. This is not working for you. My agent 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:19.320 was like, I want you to come to Paris. So 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:21.960 I went to Paris for a year and then I 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:23.959 was just just like this is so great, but I've 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:26.720 got to go. It was hard because I was never like. 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:28.559 Immersed in something, do you know what I mean. 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:31.319 I never felt like, Okay, like I'm really one hundred 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:34.000 percent involved in modeling. I'm never really one hundred percent 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:37.079 in academics. And so I went back home to Rockford 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:40.120 and I was modeling in Chicago, and then an agent 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:42.040 came and she was like, what are you doing here? 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:47.280 Like at home, She's like why, Like, I'm just modeling 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:49.160 in Chicago. I wasn't even in college at the time. 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:52.080 She was like, no, no, no, You're coming to New York. 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:55.520 And the next day I got a job for American 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:59.120 Vogue and then a big job in Germany, and my 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:00.000 life totally changed. 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:07.600 How did you do that? I mean you were young, 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:08.720 but how did. 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:12.880 You power through that? Didn't? Didn't? 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:16.720 I was exhausted all the time. People talk about issues 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:19.080 with eating, It's just like it can be really dark. 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:22.840 It's a dark, dark, dark path to go down. And 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:25.960 I had to do things that created a structure for 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:28.880 me so that I could work, but I also needed 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:31.720 to be thin to work. And when I look back, 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:33.440 I was like my body was starving, and so I 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:35.280 was like holding on to anything that I kind of get, 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:38.720 whether that was like latte, milk, whatever it was. Yeah, 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:41.440 it was the height of the supermodel. The industry lends 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:43.280 itself to like tall, thin people. 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:45.600 I mean you were literally a hangar. I mean, let's 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:47.240 be totally honest about it. 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:50.760 You have to wear the clothes, and so some people 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:53.240 were just genetically tall and thin. I mean I am 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:56.400 tall and slender, but I'm not skinny. 0:11:56.880 --> 0:11:58.600 Do you think the industry has gotten better? 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:01.360 Oh, totally. It's changed so much. I would love to 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:03.640 be modeling right now. I'd be like, yes, I'm like fine, 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:04.160 I'm fine. 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:07.920 Like I was like, this is great. She was modeling 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:11.240 at the height of the supermodel and eventually decided to 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:14.000 put a pause on college. So she picked up and 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:15.400 moved to New York City. 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:19.840 Got an apartment and was really laser focused on only modeling. 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:22.680 And my dad was freaking out. He's like, but you 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:24.200 have to go to college. And I was like, okay, fine, one, 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:26.240 I'm twenty five, I'll go back to college. 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:31.080 And so I literally called the Dina students at Columbia University. 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:32.360 I was like, oh, I'd like to have a conversation 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:33.839 with you. Because there was no cell phones, there was 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:36.360 no emails. So I called him and I made an 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:38.160 appointment and I just was like, if you give me 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:40.559 a chance, I promise you you will not regret it. 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:44.400 But before she phoned up Columbia and eventually attended the school, 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:47.560 she was at the peak of her career, jet setting 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:48.440 around the world. 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:50.680 And it was a different time too. 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:53.520 It's like when I was modeling, you know, now one's like, 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:54.880 oh Europe. 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:56.040 You know, everything is more global. 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:58.400 The models that worked in New York didn't work in Europe, 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:00.000 and so for me to want to work in Europe, 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:01.199 it's like the big deal. 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:02.200 They were like no, no, no, no. 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:04.440 But I was doing so well and I was seeing that, 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:06.839 like the photographers were going back and forth, so I 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:07.600 wanted to go back. 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:08.240 And forth with them. 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:11.920 That's when she met her ex husband, the famous photographer 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:13.480 Jill ben Simone. 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:16.560 I met him and he was like, oh my god, 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:18.839 like who is this person. So we went on a 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:21.480 trip and Veronica Web was like, he really likes you. 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:24.200 You should date him. And I'm like what, And I 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:26.560 just broke up with my boyfriend, like literally the day before, 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:27.920 and I was like, mmm, I don't know. 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:30.960 The one thing that I just was and still to 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:31.679 this day, that I. 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:34.880 Just adore about him is at his incredible creative mind. 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:38.559 I remember sitting behind him, looking over his shoulder and 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:42.199 him drawing these circles, and I was just so enamored 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:45.200 by the way and like the lightness of his hands, 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:47.680 the way he threw these circles was beautiful, It's poetic. 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:49.640 I was like, oh my god, this is amazing. I 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:52.360 was so enamored with so many things that most people 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:53.079 wouldn't think. 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:56.120 So we married three years after. 0:13:57.120 --> 0:14:00.360 Were you worried about having kids in a modeling career? 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:02.240 Was that something that was done at the time. Did 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:03.760 you have mentors to help you through it. 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:09.280 Once I actually met my ex husband and my life changed. 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:11.760 I'd met him, I was going back to college. My 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:15.040 life was more controlled, so you know, I didn't know 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:16.920 where I was had. I had a great mentor at 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:19.880 Columbia who I started was taking all these writing classes 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:22.640 because I'd been writing journals before, and the dean was like, 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:25.080 you should really start with writing because you've been journaling 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:27.840 like all this time. So I started with that. I 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:31.360 met this amazing mentor who was incredible poet, Alan Ziegler. 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:34.120 He really kind of pushed me because he was like, 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:35.960 you have to make a decision. Are you going to model? 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:37.800 Are you going to be a student. 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:42.080 Despite her almost decade long career, at this point, Kelly 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:46.680 was still incredibly young, caught between Colombia and the sparkle 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:49.800 of the fashion industry. She found the perfect opportunity to 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:54.920 bridge that divide a newly created digital column for Elle magazine. 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:59.520 Jeane Godfrey June was starting a new platform called ll 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:03.000 dot com, and she was like, I need writers. She 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:04.720 was like, tell me your story. So I became one 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:06.600 of the first bloggers on l dot com. 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:08.400 What were you writing for them? 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:12.400 This narrative about modeling and my adventures as a model. 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:14.800 It was basically like adventures with Kelly. 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:16.320 How I was modeling, who I was modeling with, where 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:19.200 I was modeling, which kind of like forecasted what I 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:21.239 was doing for page six because. 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:22.840 That was kind of the beginning of like the behind 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:25.720 the scene. It's like, tell us the story because it 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:28.440 looked so glamorous and it was like the behind the scene, right, 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:28.840 and she. 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:31.280 Would like send me everywhere where. I would be like. 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:34.080 Going to the spa, and then they'd be taking picture 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:35.720 of me at the spa and that would be writing 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:38.040 about it, which was unusual because usually it was a model. 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:43.040 But I was like a twofer right right, sound Kelly? 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:45.920 Did that feel like a comfortable place to then actually 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:48.280 begin having kids? Balancing? 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:51.280 How did you figure that piece out just one day? 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:52.960 I just was pregnant. I didn't. 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:54.880 It wasn't like I was like, oh my god, I'm 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:57.320 going to plan for this. I just was pregnant and 0:15:57.400 --> 0:15:59.440 I panicked. I'm not going to lie, but. 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:02.000 I'm like, what am I going to do? Who am 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:05.120 I going to be? My ex husband as creative as amazing, 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:06.920 easy is I think he was never there. I was 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:07.440 with myself. 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:12.440 Still, she forged ahead, committed to creating a strong framework 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:13.240 for her children. 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:16.480 I did what I always did, just put my head 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:18.800 down and just focused on what I was doing. I 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:21.640 always talk about focusing on the task at hand, and 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:24.080 I was just like, Okay, here's my child. 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:28.200 But actually being a mother is a totally different situation. 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:32.360 You are nurturing and raising them and creating a framework 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:35.680 for them. And that was what scared me because I'm 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:37.440 just like, wait a minute, Like I'm having a hard 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:41.160 time figuring navigating my own world, let alone, Like now 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:43.760 I have to raise two girls. And I have great 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:45.960 parents and I'm grateful for everything that they've done for me, 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:47.760 but I'm raising my own kids. 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:48.000 Now. 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:50.480 How did you have enough confidence in yourself? 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:52.520 As I guess the question I'm trying to ask, to 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:55.920 be confident to do it differently than what other people 0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:56.360 had done. 0:16:57.000 --> 0:16:59.560 Because I was by myself. No one of my friends 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:02.920 were having children. I didn't know anyone that had a child. 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:06.160 I just was doing my things on my own way. Yeah, 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:07.719 and I would listen to what they were doing. They 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:10.080 had like amazing nannies, and I was always like listening 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:10.960 to what they were doing. 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:12.760 At the end of the day, I was just always 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:14.040 just doing things my way. 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:17.439 Like so many women I know, Kelly did what she 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:20.720 needed to do. She took her daughter everywhere so she 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:21.800 could continue to work. 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:24.800 Brought my daughter with me, my oldest daughter with me 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:27.240 absolutely everywhere she traveled her. She went to Hawaii, she 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:29.879 went everywhere, in Paris, she went all of the place. 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:31.760 I brought her literally everywhere. 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:32.160 Yeah. 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:34.560 That was, I mean amazing, but also really stressful. I 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:36.720 didn't sleep for the first like, you know, seven years 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:39.879 of kids. But yeah, I mean just did it. I 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:42.440