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Speaker 1: and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly.

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Speaker 1: He is Matt Williamson. This is to drive on Steelers

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Speaker 1: Nation Radio. And Matt. I don't know if you saw

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Speaker 1: this one, but um, well, our friends at the ESPNU

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Speaker 1: Matt Bowen to a single him out put together the

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Speaker 1: best prospects at fifty three different skills in this year's draft. Well,

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Speaker 1: or for our listeners as well. So looking here, going

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Speaker 1: And he's not far off on the accuracy. No, no,

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