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Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang. On today's show, we're entering the home stretch.

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Speaker 1: It's the last full week before the draft. Mike Jarecki

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Speaker 1: unveils his second to last group of prospects, numbers eleven

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Speaker 1: through twenty and quarterbacks finally make the list. Speaking of lists,

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Speaker 1: we've got another one for you win totals. But first,

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Speaker 1: this has the potential to be a big newsweek for

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Speaker 1: players and fans. It's Cardinals Covered two, Episode four fifteen,

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Speaker 1: and it starts now. Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with

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Speaker 1: Craig Grigolew and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover two is presented

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Speaker 1: by Hyunday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals, and by

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Speaker 1: Murray rolls to the right, throws near sight of Fritz

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Speaker 1: bot He he's into the ends. After the top down,

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Speaker 1: here's Craig Griolu and Mike Jareckie. So we've got days,

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Speaker 1: not weeks before the twenty twenty one NFL Draft. MJ.

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Speaker 1: Take a deep breath. It's almost here. Can you be

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Speaker 1: patient for a little while longer? That's all we're asking

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Speaker 1: a little patience. I don't have a choice. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's true, you know, I mean, at this point, you know,

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Speaker 1: you got to be careful what you read and see.

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Speaker 1: And I understand that people put out different mocks and

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Speaker 1: you know, it's fun to look at, but at this

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Speaker 1: point in time, you just got to filter what you

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Speaker 1: think is bs. And it's kind of silly season and

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Speaker 1: it's you know, it's kind of over analysis, and you know,

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Speaker 1: we're all trying to guess. And really, at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, even the team's picking, they hope they know,

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Speaker 1: but we know it's been a crapshoot and it's unfortunate

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Speaker 1: to say that because these kids have worked very hard

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Speaker 1: and nobody wants to be label to bust and to me,

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Speaker 1: you got to do your homework and that's background checks

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Speaker 1: and everything. So you know, I'm sure teams are excited,

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Speaker 1: but they got to make sure that they all they

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Speaker 1: have their ducks in the world. Because this is a

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Speaker 1: big draft for all thirty two clubs. It is very

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Speaker 1: hard to predict, especially the later you have that pick

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Speaker 1: leaving the NFL scouting combine and Isaiah Simmons just blew

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Speaker 1: six in the conference. Has those twelve games, so two

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Speaker 1: and four in the division. So again they know what's

431
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Speaker 1: at stake. We'll get a chance to look at the

432
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Speaker 1: schedule and it comes out in May, but it's going

433
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Speaker 1: to be and again we don't know about injuries and

434
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Speaker 1: everything else, but on paper, I mean, I just look

435
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Speaker 1: at the teams are facing. You mentioned how many playoff teams,

436
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 1: and you got to play a couple of those teams twice,

437
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Speaker 1: the Rams and the Seahawks, and then I just look

438
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Speaker 1: at some of the quarterbacks compared to a year ago,

439
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: and it's a little bit more daunt team. But I

440
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Speaker 1: do think the Cardinals should have a better team going

441
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. The best over and under win

442
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Speaker 1: totals in the conference the Buccaneers at eleven and a half,

443
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Speaker 1: the Packers eleven. The Chiefs come in with a win

444
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Speaker 1: total of twelve, and I think that's what those three

445
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Speaker 1: teams that's to be expected. They are arguably the three

446
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Speaker 1: best teams. And the NFL, with apologies to Michael Sittle,

447
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 1: would believing that the forty nine ers are the best team.

448
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Speaker 1: But you know who knows. I mean, we're sitting there

449
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Speaker 1: talking about teams in April. We've yet to have a draft.

450
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Speaker 1: We don't know what schedules are going to look like,

451
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 1: and that plays a factor. How many home games do

452
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Speaker 1: you have early in the season, how many times you

453
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Speaker 1: have to go back east? Is it late in the

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Speaker 1: year that you have to go back east to where

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Speaker 1: whether it becomes a factor. Last year's schedule, if you

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Speaker 1: broke it down into four game blocks, it was two

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Speaker 1: road games, two home games, and Cardinals weren't able to

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Speaker 1: take advantage of that. It was a good start and

459
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Speaker 1: a poor finish. And that's something that this team is

460
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Speaker 1: going to have to own and recognize and go into

461
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Speaker 1: this season realizing that it's not only a strong start,

462
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Speaker 1: but a strong finish and every game matters. The minute

463
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Speaker 1: this team loses, and if it happens in September and

464
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 1: I hear anyone say, oh, it's one game, it's early.

465
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Speaker 1: You lost the Detroit Lions Week three, excuse me, and

466
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 1: that costs this team a playoff bid. I'll go to

467
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Speaker 1: the next week. He would have thought this team would

468
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Speaker 1: have been motivated after starting off two and oh, beating

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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers and beating you know, Dwayne Haskins

470
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Speaker 1: and the Washington football team, and then they loose Detroit

471
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Speaker 1: at home and then all of a sudden, you know,

472
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Speaker 1: according to Kyler Murray, they just thought they stucked on

473
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Speaker 1: the field. So that to me, and again we're talking

474
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Speaker 1: about the NFC, Creig. If you change that, and you

475
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Speaker 1: can't go back and change it, it's just it's worthy

476
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Speaker 1: to bring it up all of a sudden. Now you're

477
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Speaker 1: not six and six in the conference, you have a

478
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Speaker 1: couple more wins and a couple of less losses, So

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Speaker 1: those games matter, especially conference games. I'm not saying you

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Speaker 1: just throw away the AFC, because when it comes to

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Speaker 1: the win toll you've got to have, You're probably gonna

482
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Speaker 1: have to have nine or ten wins, maybe you know,

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Speaker 1: possibly eleven to win the division, but just to even

484
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Speaker 1: be in the hunt in the month of December, yeah,

485
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Speaker 1: double digit wins might be what it takes to be

486
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Speaker 1: even the wild card team in the NFC, and maybe

487
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Speaker 1: even the AFC as well, because one seventeen game regular

488
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: season schedule and two these teams are very very good,

489
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Speaker 1: to the point where, yeah, it's very difficult to get

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Speaker 1: into the postseason. We talked about that last year. Just

491
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Speaker 1: making the playoffs is an accomplishment, and then what do

492
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Speaker 1: you do when you get there? And the Cardinals unfortunately

493
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Speaker 1: unable to get to that point in twenty twenty Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Cover two presented by Hunday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: As we speak here a little over a week away

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Speaker 1: from the twenty twenty one NFL Draft. Let's get into it.

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Speaker 1: MJ your second to last group of prospects numbers eleven

498
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Speaker 1: through twenty, and for the first time, there is a

499
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Speaker 1: new position group that will crack MJ's top draft prospects.

500
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Speaker 1: Will get to that in a moment. Should be easy

501
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Speaker 1: to figure out, though, if you've been paying attention. If

502
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Speaker 1: you've missed any of our draft prospect breakdown, just go

503
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Speaker 1: into the archives Hazy Cardinals dot Com Slash podcast. But

504
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Speaker 1: counting down, we'll begin at number twenty. Defensive lineman or

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Speaker 1: I should say an edge rusher. A z's Ojulari from

506
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Speaker 1: Georgia checks in at number twenty, second team All SEC

507
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: performer nine and a half sacks last season. He's got

508
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 1: long arms. MJ and those scouts certainly love the measurables,

509
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: and when you talk about arm size, that's something that

510
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: people pay attention to. Yeah, red shirt at sophomore. He

511
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 1: grew up in Georgia attendant Georgia. There six two two

512
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Speaker 1: forty nine, long arms, thirty four point five hands, ten

513
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Speaker 1: point five fully grown three to four outside linebacker NFL

514
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: ready strength and impressive explosiveness. You know, first freshman in

515
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Speaker 1: Kirby Smart's air to be mean team captain as a freshman,

516
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: so that's impressive. Lightning quick playing off blocks. Again, just

517
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: a guy that can get to the quarterback. He's got

518
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Speaker 1: a quick rush burst, loose hips, but a limited and

519
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: some of his rush moves and that just comes with experience.

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Speaker 1: The land zerline comparison Joey Porter, you know how to

521
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 1: Joey Porter was getting to the quarterback and Tanasa he

522
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: played with some of his weaknesses strong but undersized to

523
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 1: be setting edge, gives away rush plan prematurely, rarely threatened

524
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Speaker 1: his tackles with quality counters. According to a source just

525
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Speaker 1: two up and down, there are times he looks like

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Speaker 1: he has velker on his jersey and the way he

527
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Speaker 1: blocks to stick to him area scout for an AFC team,

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Speaker 1: So I wouldn't say boom or bust, but clearly he's

529
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: got time to fill out that frame and maybe he

530
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Speaker 1: needs to go to a team that has another pass

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Speaker 1: rusher so it takes some of the pressure off of him.

532
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: But clearly he's one of the he'll be a first

533
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: round pick, yeah, and an edge rusher that maybe needs

534
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Speaker 1: to work on the skill set as far as dropping

535
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Speaker 1: back as far as covering as an outside linebacker, and

536
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Speaker 1: also a little bit of a history with injuries. He

537
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Speaker 1: tores acl as a senior in high school. But Ojulari

538
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Speaker 1: six three to forty another linebacker now and inside linebackers

539
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Speaker 1: would continue counting down and at number nineteen out of

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame, Jeremiah Ousu Karamoa six foot one, two hundred

541
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Speaker 1: and fifteen pounds, he was the top linebacker in college football,

542
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Speaker 1: the Buckets Award winner, a unanimous All American and ACC

543
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Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year. Now, this is interesting in

544
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: Cornery in the land Zer line, he's comparing him to

545
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Speaker 1: Durwin James. He said, rail level, explosive and speed. Now

546
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Speaker 1: he's six one and a half two twenty one, so

547
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Speaker 1: he's kind of a hybrid. And he grew up in Virginia,

548
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: intended Notre Dame. There, ranged to challenge outside runs, perimeter throws,

549
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: his elite fluid change of direction, and pursued him while

550
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Speaker 1: maintaining speed. So it's interesting when you look at There

551
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: was concerns when he was being raised by his lack

552
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: of size, the cult, occasional lapses and fundamentals, but neither

553
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: should detract any team. So He's an instant downhill trigger

554
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: run defender. So when you when you mentioned Derwin James,

555
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: I mean that's kind of a hybrid player. And again

556
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: six one and a half, two twenty one arms, thirty

557
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: three hands about eight point eight, So that's an interesting

558
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: comp Again, he will be a first round pick. And

559
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Speaker 1: when you look at inside linebacker, it's not a position

560
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Speaker 1: that we've discussed a lot about with respects the Cardinals

561
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Speaker 1: at number sixteen, But who do the Cardinals have at

562
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Speaker 1: that position? Isaiah Simmon is not going anywhere. Jordan Hicks,

563
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Speaker 1: you know how much longer is he wearing a Cardinals uniform?

564
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Speaker 1: And then behind those guys, there's not a lot of

565
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Speaker 1: depth outside of players who also partake on special teams.

566
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Speaker 1: Tanner vallejo Ezekiel Turner. I do think, depending on how

567
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Speaker 1: the board looks linebacker and specifically inside linebacker, it's not

568
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Speaker 1: a reach to think number sixteen could be that player. Well,

569
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Speaker 1: and again you start looking at Jordan Hicks. I think

570
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: he's been a good edition here, a team captain, great

571
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Speaker 1: leader in the locker room. But you know he is

572
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: north of thirty and you know he's played basically every snap,

573
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Speaker 1: and maybe you want to take some of the load

574
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Speaker 1: off of him. And then again, that's what teams do.

575
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Speaker 1: They start looking at the roster and they say, well,

576
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Speaker 1: this guy's either got one or two years left. He's

577
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Speaker 1: getting a little long in the tooth. This is his salary,

578
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: so we're going to fill that spot. According to land Zerline,

579
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Speaker 1: sources tell him he's got so much ability. But it's

580
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: kind of a similar tool you've seen with Isaiah Simmons

581
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: while figuring out how you want to play him personal

582
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Speaker 1: executive for an AFC team. So now that's what teams

583
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: are thinking. He's like Isaiah, now where do you play?

584
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Speaker 1: And that's why I think the comp was Derwin James.

585
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: You can do so much and then all of a sudden,

586
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: the more you can do sometimes becomes a detriment until

587
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: you figure out within the defense. And I think Bench

588
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: Joseph did figure out what to do with Isaiah Simmons.

589
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: One Simmons was ready. That's the other thing to keep

590
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: in mind, he was thrown into the fire and needed

591
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: to take a step back before taking a couple of

592
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Speaker 1: steps forward. In the middle of last season, all right,

593
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: counting down from number twenty, we got to run a

594
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Speaker 1: defensive players we go to the defensive line at number

595
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Speaker 1: eighteen defensive and Greg Rousseau out of Miami did not

596
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Speaker 1: play this past season, opted out of twenty twenty, but

597
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen fifteen and a half sacks, second team

598
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Speaker 1: All American, first team All acc So certainly someone that

599
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: can get to the quarterback in a three point stance. Yeah,

600
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: and you start looking at another coheart with him, Jalen

601
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: Phillips from Miami, you know, curious to see. I think

602
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: Phillips may have more upsite now according to the Zerline,

603
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: he thinks he's a one to second round. Again, when

604
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Speaker 1: you start looking at the draft, once we get a

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Speaker 1: couple three three receivers off the board, a couple of quarterbacks,

606
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: a couple of linement and then I think teams are

607
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: going to focus on defense. Last year, eighteen offensive players

608
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Speaker 1: in the first round, fourteen defensive players, and I can

609
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: anticipate eighteen offense going this year in fourteen defense. But again,

610
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Speaker 1: he's got he's six seven, two sixty six. His hands

611
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: aren't close to thirty four point three. I'm sorry, his

612
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: arms and his hands are eleven point one. So you

613
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: talk about long limbered even front and with projectable frame. Now,

614
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: I wonder how does he play like that? Though, he's

615
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: a guy that can get inside on you and push

616
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: you around or alignment gets in his pad level is

617
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: he's just a tall drink of water. So that's something

618
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: that I mean, clearly, he's gonna have to get stronger.

619
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Speaker 1: But he's got the body. And we talk a lot

620
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: of guys like Lais Campbell. They're great when it comes

621
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Speaker 1: to deflecting passes, force from the quarterback to throw over

622
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: and trying to find short a small window. So again

623
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Speaker 1: you're gonna hear about the Miami guys. I just curious

624
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: to see who goes first between him and Phillips. We've

625
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: got an another defensive player to spotlight here as we

626
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: counted down in at number seventeen, now more of an

627
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: inside presence defensive tackle, Christian Barmore at an Alabama the

628
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: National Championship Game defensive MVP. He was basically all over

629
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: the field as far as controlling the line of scrimmage

630
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: and Alabama's victory. But even as an interior lineman eight

631
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,240
Speaker 1: secs last season and someone who also has good size

632
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: well six four or three ten, we may not see

633
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 1: a lot of defensive tackles drafted in the first round.

634
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 1: Barmore is going to be drafted again. You'll see to

635
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 1: see some pass rushers come off there. We know corners

636
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: are going to be hot. We'll see about Parson. He's

637
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: probably the best inside linebacker, but Barmore is a first

638
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: round pick. The comp is Marcel Darius attack oriented defensive

639
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: tackle with the big body, violent hands, and the talent

640
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 1: to work his way around blocks and find the ball.

641
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: He tends to be in the lead and take control

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Speaker 1: of the majority the reps. His hands and feet sling

643
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 1: in harmony allow him to stay active and free to

644
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: sustain blocks. So he's got an explosive first step, and

645
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Speaker 1: I think that's one of those guys where you just

646
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: kind of you land him up against the center and guard.

647
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: You kind of turned his body a little bit and

648
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: let him rush up the field. Marcel Darris was doing that.

649
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 1: Vince Woolford comes to mind. Now, this guy's three ten,

650
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: but I do think he's going to be one of

651
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Speaker 1: the defensive tackles that goes off the board before we

652
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Speaker 1: get to the second third round, and a player that

653
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: in a position that the Cardinals might look at, but

654
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: based off of Jordan Phillips and Lucky Fotto and Richard Lawrence. Yeah,

655
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 1: there is, you know, talent versus need, and that is

656
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: the give and take that a scouting departments and a

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Speaker 1: general manager have to look at. Because I think the

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00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 1: Cardinals are fine at that position, but you don't want

659
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: to pass on talent just because you have players already there.

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Speaker 1: But to the Cardinals point, you have young players with

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00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: Lawrence and Fote too, although if you believe bar More

662
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: is better than those two players, then maybe you do

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Speaker 1: pull the trigger. Well, those guys are mid round picks

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Speaker 1: and you need depth on the roster. We know they're

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Speaker 1: likely if you go to three four, you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to have seven active on game day. The thing is, though,

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Speaker 1: you know, when we talk about Butler and AJ Green

668
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 1: corner and wide receiver, we're really deep draft for that.

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Speaker 1: They around one year contracts. We know jj Watt's going

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Speaker 1: to be here for a least a couple of years

671
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Speaker 1: and then we'll see about the option the bonus the

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00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: third year. So this year is four point nine, next

673
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: year goes to fifteen eight. So again you start looking

674
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Speaker 1: at how much money can you spend at that position.

675
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Speaker 1: But if jj Watt was on a one year deal.

676
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Speaker 1: I would say this guy has a bright future and

677
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: we'll just have to see where he ends up. Good point,

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00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: all right, We've had four defensive players in our bottom

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Speaker 1: half of the top twenty, and at number sixteen our

680
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: first offensive player and it's an offensive lineman. Elijah Vera

681
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: Tucker out of USC has got experience at guard and

682
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: at tackle, the first team All Packed twelve performer and

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00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: someone that the Cardinals have been pegged to take with

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Speaker 1: that sixteenth overall pick when you look at some of

685
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 1: those mock drafts out there. He grew up in Oakland,

686
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: went to USC, red shirted junior six four and a

687
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: half through oh Way, you know, I think people are

688
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: going to look at him as a guard, possibly thirty

689
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: two point one. Again, we're talking about a half inches,

690
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: hands are nine to six. The NFL comparison is Will Hernandez,

691
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: who was a high pick with the Giants. Ascending white

692
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: body and powerful hands, above average core strength, allowing him

693
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: to play with good balance and control action around him.

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00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: He's not a forklift driver blocker, but he does have

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Speaker 1: the frame and natural strength to improve an area where

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00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: he can be a better a little bit better and

697
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 1: pad level. He did play a little bit of left tackle.

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00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: Some people look him as a guard. So when you

699
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Speaker 1: look at Slater and Penny Sewell, I think they're gonna

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Speaker 1: be the first tackles off the board. But if you

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Speaker 1: look at Tucker and again Justin Peter is getting a

702
00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: little longer. Cardinals obviously feel like, you know, they decided

703
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Speaker 1: to take a paid cut, and he wants to be here.

704
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Speaker 1: But you start looking ahead and I think they have

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Speaker 1: Josh Jones where he could be your swing tackle. So wide,

706
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 1: thick frame, burley lower body. Now, the good news is

707
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 1: Cardinals would have really good intel. Graham Harrold, he's the

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Speaker 1: coordinator at USC Cliff was there briefly, so the Cardinals

709
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: would have good intel. Just his practice, habits, film and

710
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 1: Kingsbury has a relationship with Graham Harrold's a short lived there,

711
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Speaker 1: but I think they go back to some of their

712
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: days at Texas or Texas Tacker. Now, according to a scout,

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Speaker 1: he was good in twenty nineteen as a guard, looked

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Speaker 1: better in twenty twenty as a tackle. I wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: shocked the teams look at him as a tackle because

716
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Speaker 1: he's tough athletic and he's longer than people expect his height.

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00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: Director of college scouting from an AFC team. Again, the

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Speaker 1: connection would be USC offensive coordinator Graham Harrold, he played

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Speaker 1: left guard in twenty nineteen tackle last season in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: and Daniel Jeremiah's second mock draft Mock Draft two point

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Speaker 1: z back in February had the Cardinals selecting Vera Tucker

722
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Speaker 1: with the sixteenth overall picks. So it should be a

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Speaker 1: name that bird gang you should be familiar with out

724
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: there as far as an offensive lineman is concerned, but

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Speaker 1: kind of wait and see what happens coming up in

726
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: a week week and a half. Are you fine with

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Speaker 1: draft under the lineman where may not play right away?

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Speaker 1: I am, because that's kind of been the mo with

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00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: the Cardinals. DJ Humphries didn't play right away. Josh Jones

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00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: we know did not play right away. We'll see if

731
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: that changes even this season. But Sean Coogler has mentioned

732
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: and mentioned it earlier this offseason. MJ that back in

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Speaker 1: the day, now maybe things have changed a little bit,

734
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Speaker 1: but you had to wait your turn. It took two

735
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 1: or three years before an offensive lineman really found their footing.

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Speaker 1: Now there exceptions to that role, yes, but if you

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Speaker 1: have experience and you can have a guy sit and watch.

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Speaker 1: I think the Cardinals do have experience on that offensive lot.

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Speaker 1: But to your point, it's next season the season after that.

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Speaker 1: That is what a general manager has to look at

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Speaker 1: when selecting players in the draft. A head coach wants

742
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: to know, hey, can you help me now? And if

743
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Speaker 1: the answer is no, then you have to take a

744
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: broader sense of what this player fits into your system.

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Speaker 1: While you look at Rodney Hudson on the contract a

746
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: couple of years, maybe the Cardinals will squeeze out a

747
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: third year, and then you got DJ Humphries under contract

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00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: for the next couple of years, perfect age. You got

749
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Speaker 1: Josh Jones under contracts all of a sudden, you know

750
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: you're building something here where you're again, I don't disagree

751
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: with you. I know that you know when you're picking

752
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: a Willis or a worst last year, clearly those teams

753
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 1: in Tampa moved up and they needed to protect Brady,

754
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: So I get that. You know backed in Jets weren't

755
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,720
Speaker 1: very good, so you throw them in. They're Andrew Thomas,

756
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: so sometimes you just gotta roll with the punches hope

757
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 1: they get better. But in this situation, it would be ideal.

758
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,720
Speaker 1: And we know he's occur and if somebody's not playing

759
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: at the part, what do we say. Kulger is going

760
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: to play the best five guys. And when you look

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00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: at Vera Tucker, he is physical at the point of attack.

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Speaker 1: So building for the future, on paper, you have Humphries

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00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: Jones impossibly Vera Tucker and that's three out of five

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Speaker 1: positions that you're looking forward to in the future. Well,

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Speaker 1: this discussion on the offensive line moves us right into

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Speaker 1: our next five. As far as numbers eleven to fifteen,

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Speaker 1: let's quickly recap though, starting at number twenties, we countdown

768
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Speaker 1: MJ's top fifty prospects. We're counting down numbers eleven to

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Speaker 1: twenty here on this edition of Cardinals Cover two presented

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Speaker 1: by Hunday Proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals, Aziz Ojulari,

771
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Owusu, Karamoa, Greg Russo, Christian Barmo, and Elijah Vera

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Speaker 1: Tucker numbers twenty to sixteen. Now the offensive line discussion

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Speaker 1: that we have you at number fifteen have offensive tackle

774
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Speaker 1: out of Virginia Tech, Christian Derrisso checking in at number fifteen,

775
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: which is a pick before the Cardinals at number sixteen.

776
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: But again, six foot five and twenty two pounds, you

777
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: can never have enough offensive lineman, especially when you're looking

778
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: at the future. Moving forward to knowing Kelvin Beecham is

779
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: only under contract for next season. Yeah, and he's got

780
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: thirty four inch arms. His hands are nine two five.

781
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: He was regarded as one of the top tackles in

782
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 1: the country as junior sees, earning him a second team

783
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: All American first Team acc accletes in his play in

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00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: just ten starts now. According to Zerline, he's compared him

785
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: to Russell o'kong, athletic gifted left tackle prospect with natural

786
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 1: talent to be as good as he wants to be.

787
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: Plays with body control, has initial lateral quickness, smooth agility,

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00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: and he's able to get in the trenches when it

789
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Speaker 1: comes to the run game. The tape show's a player

790
00:42:55,640 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: who's able to make jaw dropping cutbacks on the blindside.

791
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 1: So you know, you don't hear about him because we

792
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: focus on Slater and for Tucker and then us Penny sewell,

793
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: but don't fall asleep when you're starting to compare something

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00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: and when we can talk about comparing. There's traits that

795
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: we're not saying he's going to be that player. There

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00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: are traits that you see and we're gonna have a

797
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: trait today that as a former Cardinals quarterback on the

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00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: list in Jake Plummer. Anyways, um So again, I just

799
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Speaker 1: think there's going to be a run on wide receivers, quarterbacks, tackles,

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00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: but you're going to start seeing some of these offensive

801
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,720
Speaker 1: tackles that I was looking at a later draft this morning,

802
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: it looked like the Vikings may have interest in improving

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00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: that offensive line. We know they have the running game.

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00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: You know, Mike Zimmer's more were defensive minded. Coach Kirk

805
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: Cousins is there, so it'd be interesting. But I do

806
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: think he will be a first round pick of junior

807
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: and it's got great size, did not allow a sack

808
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: last season and only three allowed in his career. And

809
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: a quick correction, Kelvin Beacham sign a two year contract

810
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 1: this offseason, so he is under contract pass this upcoming season.

811
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Speaker 1: But still to that point, you can never have enough

812
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: offensive lineman, especially as you're looking to protect your most

813
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 1: valuable asset in Kyler Murray. Let's continue to count it

814
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Speaker 1: down and at number fourteen. A lot of people like J. C. Horne,

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Speaker 1: the cornerback out of South Carolina. Many believe him to be,

816
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Speaker 1: if not number one, maybe the number two corner in

817
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 1: this draft. And of course a lot of people hope

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Speaker 1: keep the fingers crossed that Horn is on the board

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Speaker 1: when the Cardinals select at number sixteen. And another player

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Speaker 1: whose father played in the National Football League. His father Joe,

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Speaker 1: a wide receiver in the league. Yeah. J C. Horn,

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Speaker 1: cornerback South Carolina. Grew up in Georgia. Six one two

823
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Speaker 1: o five thirty three inch arms, nine point one hands.

824
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Speaker 1: He stepped into start ten of eleven games played as

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Speaker 1: a true freshman for the Gamecocks, racking up forty five tackles,

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Speaker 1: four for lost, two sacks, eight pass breakups. Who was

827
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: named to the SEC All Freshman Team. The comparisons Jimmy Smith.

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Speaker 1: He started the Gamecock's first seven games in twenty twenty

829
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 1: sixteen tackles one for lost, two interceptions, six pass breakers

830
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: before deciding to opt out when Will must Champ was fired.

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Speaker 1: So he decided and the SEC coaches voted him second

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00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: team All Conference after the regular season. Now so he

833
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: needs to be more consistent effort and run support, but

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Speaker 1: his traits and upside extremely appealing. Despite the lack of

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Speaker 1: high school ball protection high ball protection, Horne offers immediate

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00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 1: starting help with a high upside and definitely fills a

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Speaker 1: need for the Arizona Cardinals at maybe the number two

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Speaker 1: corner spot or maybe midway through the season. Is someone

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Speaker 1: that you can plug in and be a starter in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. According to land zerline personnel executive for

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Speaker 1: an NFC team, quote, there aren't just many corners in

842
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: this league who have the traits in man cover talent.

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00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: I think he's going to chance to be special in

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Speaker 1: the league. We'll see if he is there and available

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Speaker 1: for the Cardinals, who picked number sixteen overall in the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one NFL Draft. As we work our way

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Speaker 1: to number thirteen on Mike Jarecki's Top fifty Draft Prospects

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Speaker 1: and breaking news here on Cardinals Cover two presented by Hyunday,

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Speaker 1: proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals, our first quarterback makes

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Speaker 1: the list. Zach Wilson out of BYU twenty eight career starts,

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00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:35,240
Speaker 1: a three time Bowl Game MVP, and many who believe

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Speaker 1: is going to be the second quarterback off the board,

853
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,240
Speaker 1: and then at number two to the New York Jets,

854
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,760
Speaker 1: but someone that you have pegged, and at number thirteen

855
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 1: overall amongst all the prospects, this kid looks fifteen years old.

856
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: Now it's funny. His parents went to Utah. He grew

857
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: up in Draper, Utah, and they never recruited him. So

858
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: he goes to BYU and you know the comp Jake Plumber. Okay,

859
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: I didn't think Wilson was that elusive, that athletic as

860
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: a Jake Plumber, but I'll admit I did not watch

861
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: a lot of BYU games this past season. Sending quarterback

862
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: prospect who poses with a swagger and armtown to create

863
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: explosive place inside and outside the pocket. The Gunslinger's mentality

864
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: improved release points are clearly patterned off one of his

865
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: favorite players, Aaron Rodgers. However, his play is a little

866
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,760
Speaker 1: bit more resemblant and blend to Jake Plumber or Johnny Manziel.

867
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that change that comp It was Jake Plumber.

868
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:42,720
Speaker 1: Everybody's saying that he's got traits. Craig not compare all right, quickly.

869
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: Here Wilson's sophomore tape shows troubled decision making, so NFL

870
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: teams will need to have his balance. Enormous jump in

871
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: production is playing quality in twenty twenty outstanding eleven to

872
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:56,919
Speaker 1: one touchdown interception ratio offers potential first round full fill

873
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:03,439
Speaker 1: reader of the field again twitchy. If he goes number

874
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: two overall, man, they better get it right up there,

875
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 1: because they're gonna eat this kid up. And he also

876
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: tweeted out that he each Chipotle every single day. I

877
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: don't know if that's a you know, plug, maybe we

878
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: should take that out, but he does he eat CHIPOTLEI

879
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: but I look at him, he looks fourteen years old.

880
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: Everyone has their routines and apparently Zach Wilson does as well.

881
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 1: But just looking what his numbers last season, thirty three touchdowns,

882
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: three interceptions, and a completion percentage of over seventy three.

883
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 1: So certainly a lot to like. He is certainly not

884
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: the number two quarterback on your board, m J. And

885
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: that is something that everyone looks at quarterbacks differently. Is

886
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: there are a certain quarterback that fits what you want?

887
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: And by all accounts, the New York Jets like Zach Wilson.

888
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: And we'll have to wait and see. Yeah, I'm not

889
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: fixated on the conference he played in, because you know,

890
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 1: you look at Carson Wentz, you look at Josh Allen.

891
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: I mean not everyone's going to go to USC and

892
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: all these other stuff. Now, this is according to a

893
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 1: personal executive for an NFL team. I really like to

894
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 1: be yu kid. This quarterback class is so overrated, But

895
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: I think Wilson's going to end up being warned the

896
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 1: good ones out of this draft. Okay, well we talk

897
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson. Let's talk another quarterback in at number twelve,

898
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:26,879
Speaker 1: Mac Jones, the pro style quarterback from Alabama who won

899
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: basically every quarterback award last season, the Davey O'Brien Johnny

900
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 1: United's Golden arm Manning Award winner seventeen starts compared to

901
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson's twenty eight career starts. And then there's the

902
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: fact that you play at Alabama, you're basically playing with

903
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: pro talent every single Saturday. Is he that good or

904
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 1: was he just the beneficiary of a lot of talent

905
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: around him? That is what the forty nine ers have

906
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: to ask themselves. And if he does get past the

907
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 1: forty nine at number three, another team will have to

908
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: ask that same question. The comp is Daniel Jones. Now

909
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, you know, went to Duke, played for David Cutcliffe.

910
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 1: I think Jones a little bit taller, but they list

911
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,879
Speaker 1: him as sixty three. Matt Jones two seventeen thirty two

912
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 1: six arms, hands ninety seven. He was a four star

913
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: prospect who initially committed to Kentucky before T two is

914
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: in a recruiting class in twenty seventeen. He's from Jacksonville.

915
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: He redishirted What the Tide while two was helping the

916
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 1: team win a national title. He was arrested and charged

917
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: with a DUI in November of that year after being

918
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,439
Speaker 1: involved in a car accident. He was suspended against Lshoe.

919
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,439
Speaker 1: He accepted an invitation to the Senior Bowl. Jones mother

920
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: played tennis at Mercer, her father his father played tennis

921
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: at Florida State. His sister played tennis at College of

922
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 1: Charlton Charleston, and his brother played soccer at Mercer. So

923
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: he comes from a team, a family, maybe not football,

924
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: but a lot of jeans when it comes to playing

925
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 1: different sports, a very athletic family and someone who waited

926
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: his turn at Alabama. You mentioned it. He sat behind

927
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts. He sat behind two a tongue of Valoa,

928
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,240
Speaker 1: and then made a name for himself this past season

929
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: to where many people early in this draft process thought,

930
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 1: maybe you know, teens to late first round to know,

931
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he's not going to get past

932
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers at number three, or maybe not

933
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:28,720
Speaker 1: past the Falcons at four, or maybe the Lions at seven,

934
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: even though they just acquired Jared Goff. He is certainly

935
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: an interesting prospect when you talk about the quarterback position. Yeah.

936
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 1: And the good thing too, is in the NFL, because

937
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 1: we know that those Alabama quarterbacks don't really pan out

938
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: in the NFL. So I mean, I don't want to

939
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 1: put that stigma on him because he played at a

940
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 1: high level. I mean, he went against one of the

941
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 1: best defenses in football when he get you playing that

942
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: semi game and then obviously the National Championship. So I

943
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 1: don't want to discredit because you went to Alabama, but

944
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: small sample, but he looks the part. It's just a

945
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: matter of you know, the Niners. I mean, I don't

946
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:05,439
Speaker 1: know why people aren't. I mean, I guess what they're

947
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: talking about him now. Trey Lance and Justin Fields I

948
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,879
Speaker 1: don't think Justin Fields getting enough credit. We'll talk about

949
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: him later in a week. The fact that he played

950
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 1: in so many big games. He threw for three hundred

951
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 1: and eighty five yards against Clemson, he took a shot

952
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: to the ribs, and he stayed in the game prior

953
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: to that. So we'll talk about him. But mac Jones

954
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: to me is, you know, I think he's perfect for

955
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots. And you know, is Belichick going

956
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 1: to take a quarterback in the first round. I think

957
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 1: Micah Parson makes the most sense for the Patriots. He's

958
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: like that perfect defensive player that Belichick will build a

959
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: defense around. But it'll be interesting because the pressure is

960
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: going to be on him because of the fact that

961
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: you know, people aren't talking about we are Trevor Lawrence,

962
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: Trey Lance. But it's all it takes is one team.

963
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: And if the Niners do it at three or the

964
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 1: Falcons do it at four, then you know, we'll see

965
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:01,399
Speaker 1: if he can get plays right away or he's gonna

966
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 1: have to sit. Well, the Patriots sit right now at

967
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,839
Speaker 1: number fifteen overall, do they have to move up to

968
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 1: get a quarterback that they like? In a quarterback of

969
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: the future. Our final draft prospect here as we count

970
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: down from number twenty in at number eleven, it's another

971
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 1: offensive tackle. Rashawn Slater out of Northwestern did not play

972
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: this past season, opted out, but if you look back

973
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 1: at twenty nineteen, made a name for himself when Northwestern

974
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 1: played Ohio States and basically shut down Chase Young and

975
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: that put a lot of people on his radar. Slater

976
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: on a lot of people's radar for offensive tackle and

977
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 1: one of those players that it's difficult to evaluate when

978
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: you don't have tape from last season. Well, I think

979
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 1: this year we got a chance to see Northwestern and

980
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 1: they were one of those teams that you know, you

981
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 1: thought maybe he could make a run in the Big Ten.

982
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 1: And he grew up in Sugarland, Texas, but he ended

983
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 1: up at Northwestern, who was a senior six four three

984
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 1: h four arms thirty three hands. The comparison is Jonah Williams.

985
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,479
Speaker 1: Jonah Williams was a high pick with Cincinnati and tearing

986
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 1: his ACL in training camp. He's a three year starter

987
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: with experience that both left and right tackles and his

988
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 1: compact frame carry's strength that can be known as a

989
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: grown man category and it's evidence why as you mentioned

990
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 1: his battle with Chase Young back in twenty nineteen, he's big,

991
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: pause can snatch opponent's frame, keeps his head back and

992
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 1: chin tucked in pass sets. So I think when you

993
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 1: look at this from a standpoint of I do think

994
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,800
Speaker 1: he'll probably be the second tackle unless you like Penny.

995
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: But Shawn Slater is a guy that's going to be

996
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: drafted somewhere, probably in the teens, after we see a

997
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:44,359
Speaker 1: run on wide receivers, cornerbacks, and possibly quarterbacks. Quickly, let's

998
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:50,879
Speaker 1: recap these five prospects fifteen to eleven Christian dear So, J. C. Horn,

999
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson, Mac Jones, and rashawns Later overall, three offensive lineman,

1000
00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks. As we look at prospects to twenty on

1001
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 1: MJ's Big Board, if you will one more grouping to

1002
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: go the top ten, will do that on our next

1003
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: show here, but certainly more recognizable names and in this

1004
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: grouping players, certainly some names that have been associated with

1005
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. And a tough decision, I think, because

1006
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,240
Speaker 1: you're looking for the most talented and then of course

1007
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 1: someone who fills a need, and whether that is a

1008
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: need right now, or a need that you're projecting in

1009
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: in terms of offensive linement, whether it's a guard or tackle.

1010
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:41,760
Speaker 1: Those discussions I'm sure have happened and maybe are already done,

1011
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,280
Speaker 1: or maybe not. Maybe those discussions are still happening within

1012
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 1: that Cardinal's draft war room. I mean, picking sixteen, you're

1013
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: gonna be good and good a player, Okay, it's just

1014
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 1: a matter of again, people are gonna get fixated on

1015
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 1: it a second or left, you know, best player. We

1016
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 1: don't know what the board looks like. So if I

1017
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 1: had it, if I had my wist right now, Jaylen Waddle,

1018
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:07,359
Speaker 1: j C. Horne or Vera Techer. Now, I can't sit

1019
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: here and today and tell you one of those guys

1020
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: is going to be there. It looks like Jaylen Waddle

1021
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 1: will be probably after Chase Davante Smith, and then you

1022
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 1: look at the couple tackles. So but if I had

1023
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: my druthers, Jaylen Waddle because I think he's a plug

1024
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: and play guy, obviously, Chase Horn J C. Horn, and

1025
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: then you look at Veritecher, I just don't. I wish

1026
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: I can sit here and say one of those three

1027
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: guys will be on the board, But I don't know that.

1028
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it is going to depend

1029
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 1: on how many quarterbacks go. Is it five that go

1030
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 1: in the top ten or top fifteen? Dare we see

1031
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 1: a sixth name out there? And whether that's in the

1032
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: upper half or the lower half. But the more and

1033
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 1: more quarterbacks that get selected ahead of the Cardinals pick,

1034
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: the better it is for the Cardinals. And that is

1035
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: what you have to keep an eye on. On April

1036
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 1: twenty ninth, So Bird Gang, we've got one more grouping

1037
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,479
Speaker 1: of draft prospects. Will do that a little bit later

1038
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 1: on this week numbers one to ten. It's been a

1039
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: lot of fun. If you've missed any of these breakdowns,

1040
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: just go to the archives asy Cardinals dot com Slash podcast.

1041
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: As we get closer and closer to the twenty twenty

1042
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: one NFL Draft, And on that note, we will put

1043
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: a lid on this edition of Cardinals Cover two, presented

1044
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: by Hunday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always,

1045
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: special thanks to our executive producer Jim Almandro. For Mike Jarecki,

1046
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: I'm Graig Rayel Lou. We'll talk to you next time

1047
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: here on Cardinals Cover two.