1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Welcome back everybody. It's a betting pros college football podcast. 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Scott Bogmin following me on the Twitter 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: at Bogman Sports, and it's a little different this year. 4 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: I'm the host. Last year I was the analyst. But 5 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: we have the incomparable Thor Nystrom at thor ku on 6 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: the Twitter to join us. This season. I will be 7 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: hosting Thor will be breaking these games down for you 8 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: on a weekly basis. Thor, welcome to the show. Excited 9 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: to have you here for this season, and I am pumped. 10 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: It's week zero. Are you ready? Are you actually ready 11 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 1: for kickoff for Saturday to come around and get games rolling. 12 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 2: I'm definitely ready. I'm definitely ready. 13 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a long off season, was a wild 14 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 3: off season and an unprecedented off season, a player movement, 15 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 3: and yeah, I know I speak for. 16 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 2: Both of us and saying it is good. The college 17 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: football is back. 18 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: It feels right. You know, when football is coming around, 19 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: the weather gets a little bit colder, you know that 20 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,319 Speaker 1: heat starts to break a little bit as well. The 21 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: world just feels correct to me. So I am very 22 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: very happy that we are starting and we're going to 23 00:00:59,960 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: be here every single week for you guys to break 24 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: down these games, and this is week zero. You know, 25 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: Week zero is kind of like a what do they 26 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: call it, thor, like a soft opening of a hotel 27 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: where it's open but only to certain people and you 28 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: can only go at certain times and things like that. 29 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: So it's just Saturday, nothing else. There's eleven games, but 30 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: only seven that are being played by both FBS teams 31 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: that have like a real line and all that stuff. 32 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: So that's what we're going to be going over today 33 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: and thor we start at Nebraska versus Northwestern, not at 34 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 1: versus Northwestern. This game is in Dublin, Ireland, so you know, 35 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: a little ways out of the way. But I have 36 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: some questions here. The game is Nebraska by thirteen. I 37 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: believe you're, you know, in Nebraska's favor. Here will Casey 38 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: Thompson finally geting Nebraska's offense on track under Scott Frost? 39 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: Do you think that's gonna happen in for Northwestern? They 40 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: were good for a long time, but they've been rough recently. 41 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: Can we expect improvement or do you think we're going 42 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: to see more of the same from Northwestern? What do 43 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: you think of this game. 44 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's lots of things going on here. This is 45 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 3: going to be a really fascinating game on multiple different levels. 46 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 3: I mean, let's start with Nebraska. Fascinating offseason for them. 47 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 3: I mean, I thought a lot of people thought Scott 48 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 3: Frost was going to be fired. 49 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 2: Trev Alberts decides to keep them. 50 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 3: It was sort of on this prove it sort of 51 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 3: scenario of we'll give you the one off season and 52 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 3: then we'll give you one more year. 53 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 2: We'll see how it goes. 54 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 3: Obviously, Scott Frost, he's not only going to have to 55 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:33,959 Speaker 3: make a Bowl game, he's probably going to have to 56 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 3: win eight games to save his job. 57 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 2: So he sort of had this yolo off season. 58 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 3: You know, we were talking about how it was this 59 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 3: unprecedented offseason a player movement. Scott Frost took full advantage. Yeah, 60 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 3: he signed a metric ton of people, not only that. 61 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: Twenty two transfers. 62 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: It was a lot, right, an incredible amount of people. 63 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 2: You know. 64 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 3: Of course, he signed a new quarterback, and he brought 65 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 3: in a whole new architect of the offense, so the 66 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 3: whole thing has been remade. What was really interesting about 67 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 3: that is you bring in Mark Whipple, who his thing 68 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 3: is entire coaching career, it's been that quick hitting passing 69 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,119 Speaker 3: attack to you know, in a layered passing attack where 70 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 3: guys are running these these multiple concepts that down the field. 71 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 3: You know, you'll have two guys running similar routes, you know, 72 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 3: and then and then they'll sort of break off in 73 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 3: the layers, you know, and you sort of force conundrums 74 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 3: for the defensive back stuff like that, and then you 75 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 3: do that sort of stuff and then that sets up 76 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 3: the run. 77 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: You know, that sort of stuff. 78 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 3: Well, usually with that system, the guy who runs it best, 79 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 3: it's a guy who the foot that he has led with. 80 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 3: It's short area accuracy and intermedia accuracy. And then they 81 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 3: go out and they signed Casey Thompson. That is certainly 82 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 3: not the first thing that I thought. 83 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: Of what I thought of Casey Thompson. 84 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 3: That and decision making Casey Thompson, you know, he's a 85 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 3: solid playmaker for sure, but again, accuracy in touch is 86 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 3: not the first couple of things that you would toss 87 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 3: out when when you're thinking about him. So it's going 88 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 3: to be really interesting to see Casey Thompson sort of 89 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 3: the square you know or the round peg being fit 90 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: into the square of the Mark Whipple system and then 91 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 3: both of those guys essentially trying to save Scott Frost. 92 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 3: You know, you have all those different things going on, 93 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 3: and then all the new the other new guys on 94 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 3: Nebraska as well, and then they're just in Dublin, you know, 95 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 3: like this new look Nebraska team. And then meanwhile on 96 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 3: the other side with Northwestern, they have had nightmare seasons 97 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 3: in two of the last three, you know, sort of 98 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 3: interspersed like an oreo with you know, sort of more 99 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 3: of the prototypical good you know, Fitzferald season where they 100 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 3: had like a wins or whatever. But you know, you know, 101 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 3: I mean last year it was another nightmare. One cam 102 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 3: Porter was lost for the season. Last year they get 103 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 3: cam Porter back. Ostensibly, this is more of your prototypical 104 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 3: Northwestern team with camp Porter back, where you have that 105 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 3: really deep backfield. Now you've got cam Porter, you got 106 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 3: Evan Hall, you got that the kid that they had 107 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 3: gotten from Bowling Green a couple of years, Andrew Clayer. 108 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 2: So they have three different running backs. Halinski should be 109 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 2: better this year. 110 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 3: You know, he did not have a good offseason last 111 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 3: year after he had transferred over from South Carolina and 112 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 3: he was terrible last year, but there's been talk that 113 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 3: he is going to be really improved this year. He 114 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 3: had a good offseason, so if he's better, certainly the 115 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 3: rushing attack is going to be better one way or 116 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 3: the other. Because the one thing that Northwestern's offense has 117 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 3: going for it one way or the other is a 118 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 3: really good offensive line. They're left tackle Peter s Kearansky 119 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 3: is one of the best offensive linemans in America, and 120 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 3: the kids around them are pretty solid too, So they 121 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 3: have the line going for them one way or the other, 122 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 3: should have a good rushing attack. If Helensky is the 123 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:46,559 Speaker 3: least competent, it'll be a decent offense. The defense will 124 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 3: have to see, you know. I mean like when when 125 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 3: FitzGeralds his teams have been good, the defenses have been awesome. 126 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 3: Like you remember the team two years ago, you know, 127 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 3: during the COVID year or whatever that was, when like 128 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 3: they had Greg Newsom and the Joseph Kidd that just 129 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 3: answer to Notre Dame and like they had that awesome 130 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 3: secondary whatever that you know, that that was the contending team. 131 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 3: And back when the other Fitzgerald good teams, that's when 132 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 3: they have good defenses when they're team the Northwestern teams 133 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 3: is stunk. 134 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 2: That's when the defenses have been sieves. 135 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 3: So it's gonna go a long way to inform how 136 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 3: good that this team is. 137 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 2: If they can get that defense back on track. 138 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to believe it to see it, but 139 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 3: I do think that that offense is gonna be a 140 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 3: bit better one way. 141 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 2: Or the other. 142 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: You're on the Nebraska side here, correct. 143 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 3: My numbers are really really close to where Vegas is 144 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 3: right now. You know that this line has been bouncing 145 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 3: back a little bit and forth. You know, I've been 146 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 3: monitoring it a little bit. Right now live it's Nebraska 147 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 3: minus thirteen. My number on this game is Nebraska minus 148 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 3: thirteen point seven. I honestly would not bet this game. 149 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 3: You know, Like the coaching discrepancy alone, I think is 150 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 3: probably worth that. 151 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 2: Point seven points. 152 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,679 Speaker 3: The Northwestern has the better coach team hint hint, kough cough. 153 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,119 Speaker 2: So for me, I'm staying away. 154 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 3: If I had to bet it, Honestly, I'm probably leaning 155 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 3: Northwestern just because of the coaching edge. 156 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 2: But in this one, I'm just going to be a spectator. 157 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: What about what is playing this game in Ireland? Do 158 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: does it do anything in terms of the over in 159 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: terms of this line, does does it change anything for 160 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: you or you know, is it do you just say, well, 161 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: it's a field. No one has home field advantage, so 162 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: you have that, and you know, they both have to 163 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: deal with it. So I'm not really looking at this 164 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: field or this location as a deciding factor for anything. 165 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 3: You know, It's it's interesting, right like with Northwestern, they 166 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 3: don't have a home field advantage, so in that sense 167 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 3: it doesn't really matter for them, whereas with Nebraska they 168 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 3: do have a home field advantage. However, I'm not sure 169 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 3: that this season starting out that Frost would have wanted 170 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 3: to play at home right away in the season, just 171 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 3: because if something bad happened right away would have been 172 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 3: the stadium would have been deflated right away. Because right now, 173 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 3: the way that it is for Frost, people, you know, 174 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 3: people are really tepid about him, and and people are 175 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 3: either ready to to want to believe in him or 176 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 3: to move on really quick. And so it's probably better 177 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 3: better for him that the opener isn't anywhere even close 178 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 3: to America, to be honest, So for both teams, it's 179 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 3: it's probably not a bad thing. I think this honestly, 180 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 3: I think it probably plays in the frost hands more. Again, 181 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 3: just for the reasons that that that I was specifying, 182 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 3: so forty nine. 183 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 1: And a half, Yeah, you have a lean one way 184 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: or the other. 185 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 2: I would man just where the where where the game 186 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 2: is being played. 187 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 3: It's it's it's harder to say you know over there 188 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 3: because it's it's just you know, with the field. 189 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 2: I don't have any information about the field. 190 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's not like they're playing you know, dozens 191 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: of games in Ireland every single year, so that is 192 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: more than understandable. Plus week one, Week zero, however you 193 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: want to call it, it's the hardest week. The first 194 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: week of the season, the last week of the season, 195 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: in my opinion, are the toughest to bet because you 196 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: don't know, you know who is going to be good, 197 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: who's been working hard, who looks good in practice, all 198 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: that good stuff. Because it's very hush hush in college football. 199 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: You know NFL you probably have a better idea because 200 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: it's open practices, you're getting highlights, you're getting media stuff. 201 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: It's all day, every day, it's the NFL network. Right, So, 202 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: but in week one and the last week in any 203 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: football season, because the last week. You don't know who quit, 204 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: who's being benched, who's not gonna play because they're a 205 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: little banged up and they want to say them for 206 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 1: next year. There's too many what ifs. The same thing 207 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: with week zero. We're looking for really, you know, like 208 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: you got to feel really good about a game or 209 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: a line to bet on it early, this early in 210 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 1: the season. We move on to the next game. Here 211 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: is Yukon at Utah State. Utah State is a twenty 212 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: seven and a half point favorite at home against Yukon, 213 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: and Blake Anderson had these guys humming the Aggies last season? 214 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: Or should we expect more of the same And what 215 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: does a good season look like under new slash old 216 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: head coach Jim Mora for Yukon. 217 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm already smiling because I can't believe I'm about 218 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 3: to make the case to people that bet their harder 219 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 3: and money at Jim Mora in the fighting Yukon Huskies. 220 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 3: But I'm about to do it, Folks, bet yeah, I 221 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 3: have a huge overlay on this game, a surprising overlay, 222 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 3: although to me this was a surprising line. Although I 223 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 3: guess Vegas they're trying to coach money on to this side. 224 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 3: And you know, a sucker is born every minute, and 225 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 3: I guess the minute that I was born. 226 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 2: I qualified. My overlay on. 227 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 3: This game is the live line is twenty seven and 228 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 3: a half. Utah State obviously favored by twenty seven and 229 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 3: a half. My line on this game is only Utah 230 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 3: State minus fifteen point seven, So I have an overlay 231 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 3: on this game of twelve points. By definition, I am 232 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 3: going to be betting on the Utah or I'm sorry, 233 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 3: on on Yukon and Jim Mora's returned to college football. 234 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 3: It's it's hard to make a case for for for 235 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 3: Jim Morri's first roster with Yukon, although he is going 236 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 3: to inject energy back into a roster, into into a 237 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 3: program that has not had it in a very long time. 238 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 3: Randy Edgell, oh my god, his Randy Yes, speaking of 239 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 3: his return to you know, to to the Yukon program, 240 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 3: That one was really really bad, you know, and and 241 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 3: and they kept bringing him back, and then they didn't 242 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 3: even want to play football out there in the the 243 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 3: COVID season, and that all of Edzel's players were quitting, 244 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 3: and they didn't want to fire him because they didn't 245 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 3: want to pay him and another guy at the same time. 246 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 3: It was it was really bad there. So they finally 247 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 3: got rid of him. They bring in Mora who. You know, 248 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 3: people get annoyed at mooras Stick, just like they get 249 00:11:56,120 --> 00:12:00,079 Speaker 3: annoyed at Attick if they're outside the area. But you know, 250 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 3: I'm living in Minneapolis. I people happen to enjoy pleck 251 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 3: here and they enjoy row the boat. 252 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: Yeah it's fun. Maybe it's corny or whatever, but it 253 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: works for them kids, So it works. 254 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. 255 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know in a Yukon, I mean you're 256 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,359 Speaker 3: always gonna have a talent discrepancy. 257 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 2: Just having the kids energetic and. 258 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 3: Ready to play and excited, it's it's gonna be worth 259 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 3: at least something. The other thing, Moura took to the 260 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 3: transfer portal this offseason, you know again like you know 261 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 3: a time when there was college football free agency, and 262 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 3: he went and signed some interesting guys right, like you know, 263 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 3: like Takewon Robert Robertson from from Penn State. You know, 264 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 3: a kid who he had some some recruiting hype behind 265 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 3: him coming out. 266 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 2: We saw him play. He is a good runner to 267 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 2: to this point. 268 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 3: He has zero accuracy, so he's one of those dual 269 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 3: threats that is only you know, he's a dual threat 270 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 3: that can't throw basically, but he can do one thing, 271 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 3: which is that the Yukon quarterbacks in the past have 272 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 3: been able to do zero like the past like four years. 273 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 2: So at least you got that going for you. 274 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 3: And you know, and he has a couple other quarterbacks 275 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 3: in there too, you know, where they're having the competition. 276 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 3: We'll see who ends up winning it. But you know, 277 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 3: and Nathan Carter, you know, the running back that they have, 278 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 3: he can do a couple of things as well. We'll see, 279 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 3: you know what they could end up tossing together. As 280 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 3: for Utah State, you know, last year was the dream season, 281 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 3: right like, they went eleven and two basically by sneaking 282 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 3: up on everyone in Blake Anderson's first year, literally just 283 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 3: by ambushering people. And it happened really quickly, right like 284 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 3: even like in early October, we didn't really realize what 285 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 3: was happening. And then all of a sudden you looked 286 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 3: up at the standings and you're like, wait a second, like, 287 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 3: how is how is Utah State? Like seven and two? 288 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden they were you know, 289 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 3: like ten and two and then eleven and two. It's like, 290 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 3: what is what is going on here Utah I think 291 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 3: this is an important point though. Even though Utah State 292 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 3: finished eleven and two, they only beat two teams by 293 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 3: twenty eight points or more last year. 294 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 2: One of them wasn't CS team. 295 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 3: You know, like and and the other one, by the way, 296 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 3: was a solid team. Granted, I will say, uh, San 297 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 3: Diego State, I did happen to watch that game, the 298 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 3: entire game. Uh San Diego State. I don't know what 299 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 3: was going on that they might have COVID or something. 300 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 3: They also know showed it like it was one of 301 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 3: those games where you know, I don't know San Diego 302 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 3: there was like a frat party. 303 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: That the hangover the Hangover game, Yeah it was. 304 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 2: It was one of those where it was yeah, it 305 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 2: was really weird. 306 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 3: But but anyway, uh, you know, most of the rest 307 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 3: of the season, Utah State was like like Utah State 308 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 3: has one of those uh you know, Blake Anderson's ethos. 309 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 3: It's like the clock controlled quick hitting passing game right 310 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 3: and and Logan Bonners like one of those those pocket 311 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 3: passers with you know it. It was like I was 312 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 3: just talking about like the pocket passer with with with 313 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 3: good short to intermediate accuracy, right, and and they're they're 314 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 3: looking to control the clock and control the ball with 315 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 3: those quick hitters, and then we're gonna move the chains, 316 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 3: and we're gonna move the chains and like so like that, 317 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 3: and they would keep the you know, the scores would 318 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 3: be close in a lot of their games, and they 319 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 3: would end up, you know, pulling the games out at 320 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 3: the end. 321 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: Because so twenty seven and a half just seems like 322 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: way way too much, even for Yukon, a dog that 323 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: has been a dog for a while, right exactly. 324 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 3: I think the Yukon is going to be able to 325 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 3: hang around, and I think Jim Mora is going to 326 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 3: to try to do clock control stuff on his own 327 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 3: by establishing the run on his own right between Roberson 328 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 3: between Nathan Carter. 329 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go over to Wyoming at Illinois. Illinois is 330 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: an eleven point favorite here and Wyoming they were solid 331 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: last year, but they have a lot to replace, so 332 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: I think for most we expect a step back for them. 333 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: For the Cowboys, Brett Bielima had the ALIGNI heading in 334 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: the right direction and throw this line from your from 335 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: your win total preview a Kirkland brand Wisconsin is just 336 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: so fantastic. A plus on that line for an absolutely 337 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: wonderful line for a description of the ALIGNI here, So 338 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: who do you like in this game? And what do 339 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: you expect from these teams this year? 340 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? 341 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 3: And and Bielaman Bilama is building a Kirkland brand Illinois 342 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 3: or you know at Illinois, and he's done it very quickly. 343 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 3: He he has like, you know, his average offensive lineman 344 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 3: is is do you remember it from the pieces, like 345 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 3: three hundred and twenty five or three hundred and thirty pounds. 346 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 2: Like his average starting offensive lineman. 347 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 3: Like they already have the schemes, Yeah, exactly, just enormous upfront. 348 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 3: He has the power running game established already, and he's 349 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 3: already you know, it's weird like when Archer Sikowski, Like 350 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 3: when he came in, he was like this bally hued 351 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 3: five star quarterback. He's been a huge bus but he 352 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 3: was known as like this lead footed pocket passer Beilima. 353 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 3: You know, he signed him as a transfer. Bilama turned 354 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 3: him into like this quasi dual threat, you know, where 355 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 3: he's like, you know us just like this this hammer quarterback. 356 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 3: So so Bilima like you know, he's able to turn 357 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 3: guy into his vision for them or whatever. So like 358 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 3: it's what he does. It's impressive and in its own right. 359 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 3: And now he has signed Tommy DeVito to compete with Sakowski. 360 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 3: Tommy DeVito being another ballet heooed quarterback that didn't necessarily 361 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 3: work out at his previous stop. But Beilama can you know, 362 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,479 Speaker 3: sort of mold him in his own image or whatever. 363 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 3: Illinois passing game is not going to be appreciably better 364 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 3: than it was last year, but the good news is 365 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 3: is they should be able to run just as well 366 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 3: as they did last year. And the thing about the 367 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 3: Illinois team is they they you know, they're gonna do 368 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 3: what they do, which again it's just a super duper 369 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 3: knockoff version of like what Wisconsin and Iowa does. It's 370 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 3: that they're going to control the clock, they're going to 371 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 3: shorten the game, they're gonna put their defense in as 372 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 3: good a position as they possibly can. They're gonna play 373 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 3: the field position game, and then they generally play really 374 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 3: good special teams like that. 375 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 2: That's really all it is. They want to play this 376 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 2: situational football game and and Beelim like did pretty good 377 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:02,239 Speaker 2: with it. 378 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 3: Like they sort of scratching cloud their way to to 379 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 3: five wins last year. I'm a little bit uh tepid 380 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 3: on on them this year, you know, as far as 381 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 3: taking the next step, because I don't know where you're 382 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 3: going to Like if you look at the stock Ledger 383 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 3: and you know, in every single column, I'm not sure 384 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 3: where it jumps up this year because I think he 385 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,719 Speaker 3: got as much as he could, like right away, and 386 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 3: you know, I'm not I'm not sure what position it 387 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 3: it jumps. 388 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: Kind of maxed out last year. 389 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 3: Sure, sure, exactly once he gets the better quarterback or 390 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 3: or he gets like the stut running back, I think 391 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 3: that's where where it starts to tick up. But I 392 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 3: think this team is right around as good as as 393 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 3: last year's, which you know, it's probably you know, good 394 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 3: for you know, four to five wins or whatever, gonna 395 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 3: be respectable. But you know, I think it's it's right 396 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 3: around there. Meanwhile, Wyoming, you know, it's it's it's what 397 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 3: Wyoming is like Creig Bulls teams always play solid defense. 398 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 2: They lost a. 399 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 3: Lot of defenders, you know, over over the offseason. They 400 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 3: also lost their quarterback in the transfer portal. They lost 401 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 3: Zavi and validate too, but they didn't care about that 402 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 3: because Titus swyn had knocked him out of the starting 403 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 3: line up at the end of last year, so that was. 404 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 2: One of those where they didn't really care. 405 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 3: But Wyoming teams, they're always well coached just because of balls, 406 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 3: so I expect that to be the same thing. To me, 407 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, this line is too high, 408 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 3: and I'll tell you why it's too high. Brett Beelman 409 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 3: does not care about beating teams by double digits. In fact, 410 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 3: he doesn't want to. He wants to keep the scores 411 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 3: as close as possible, just like Farren's you know, just 412 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 3: like they do what Wisconsin, Whereas that's exactly Wyoming's ethos too. 413 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 3: These are two coaches that want to play in three 414 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 3: point games. To me, this line should be you know, 415 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 3: four points, three points something like that. My adjusted line 416 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 3: on it is Illinois minus five. I'm taking Wyoming, okay, nice, 417 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 3: I like it. And this should be a very grindy 418 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 3: you know what would they call it? This is a 419 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 3: classic defensive slober knocker. 420 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: Slober knocker. Yeah, that's exactly what it should be. Let's 421 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: go to Charlotte at FAU Charlotte or, if you excuse me, 422 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: is a seven point favorite. But fau Thor had just 423 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: an epic meltdown last season, and sometimes we can see that. 424 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: Sometimes we can see that, uh, you know, extend into 425 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: this season. And Charlotte, Charlotte is a team that was 426 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: good on one side of the ball or not really good. 427 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: I guess I should say average on the offensive side, 428 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 1: and the defense was really bad. Can we see their 429 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: defense improve enough for them to contend this year and 430 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 1: maybe fight for a Bowl game? And who do you 431 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: like in this game? 432 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? 433 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 3: I think Charlotte could take that that step up, you know, 434 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 3: I mean, heally's been building that thing up. 435 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 2: Uh. And you know, you got you got Reynolds back. 436 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 2: You got a really. 437 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 3: Good receiving cord there as well. And I like the 438 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 3: offensive system. You know that they're getting closer and closer 439 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 3: and closer. And meanwhile, like fau they they played pretty 440 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 3: good defense. And and Nicosy Perry, you know, he's okay, 441 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 3: you know, for for what he is. And you have 442 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 3: okay position guys, But there's just a cap on on 443 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 3: the offense and I think on the team overall. First 444 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 3: of all, because Willie Taggart is you just sort of 445 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 3: a risk averse coach, and I think that that hurts 446 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 3: you against good opponents because there's sort of that lack 447 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 3: of killer in it's It's sort of like being a 448 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 3: Bikings fan where Mike Zimmer is always coaching not to 449 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 3: lose when you're playing good teams and you give away 450 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 3: you know, close games whatever. But they also have a 451 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 3: dearth of skill talent, and I think that that hurts 452 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 3: as well in some of these these coin flip coin 453 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 3: flip games as well. I think FAU is a solid team, 454 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 3: but to me, they're more of like that gatekeeper type 455 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 3: of a team that they're They're just sort of a 456 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 3: middle tiered team, and Charlotte is moving right into that 457 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 3: phylum as well. So for for me that these teams 458 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,959 Speaker 3: are probably closer than they might appear to the naked 459 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 3: eye in in Vegas right now, this line is, uh, 460 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 3: Charlotte plus seven. You know the game isn't in Boca. 461 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 3: My my adjusted line in this game it's FAU minus 462 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 3: only four point seven points. 463 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 2: I like Charlotte. I I like Charlotte a little bit 464 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 2: more I think than Vegas this year. And I like 465 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 2: Charlotte in this game as well. 466 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: And there's another game here, North Texas at UTEP, which 467 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: is kind of interesting. North Texas is favored by one point. 468 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 1: But looking at your win total articles on betting pros 469 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: from earlier this month, you like UTEP to hit the over. 470 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: This is a close game that they have at home 471 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 1: thor so they got to win this one to get 472 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: towards that over correct. 473 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 2: Maybe, yeah, you know they do. 474 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 3: They do have a lot of you know, what do 475 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 3: you call coin flip hype. You know, it's a higher 476 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 3: schedule and there is a lot of those ones that 477 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 3: are that are close in there, so. 478 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna put them in the top. 479 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: Have to have this one, right. 480 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, but this is this is a close one. 481 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 3: You know this of course, you know, of course just 482 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 3: by definition with with the line. But it's a pretty 483 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 3: interesting one too, you know. I mean, obviously you have 484 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,360 Speaker 3: had a really good season last year, and Ute is 485 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,959 Speaker 3: one of the most interesting teams in the nation in 486 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 3: that you could cut their performance really predictably. I think 487 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,959 Speaker 3: it was like in my numbers. I think it was 488 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 3: like you could cut it at in my power ratings 489 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 3: like number one oh two, and like the team's ranked 490 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 3: below one O two they went six and oh against them. 491 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 3: It was like something like that, or maybe it was 492 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 3: seven and zero if you had the Bowl game, and 493 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 3: then the teams above that they went zero and six 494 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 3: against and they they got absolutely rolled, like they you know, 495 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 3: they lost by like twenty five points per gamer like 496 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 3: something like that to those teams. So they were one 497 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 3: of those these teams that, like you know, could control 498 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 3: the lower teams and sneak out the wins against them, 499 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 3: but would just get blasted by any team that had 500 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 3: more more talent than them North Texas. What's interesting about 501 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 3: this matchup then, is North Texas is right on that line. 502 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 3: They're not crazy crazy more talented than UTEP, but they 503 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 3: are more talented than UTAP, again not appreciably, but they 504 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 3: are so by this rule, you know, I I guess 505 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 3: just by president you would say that the North Texas 506 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 3: would beat them. But again it's not by a ton. 507 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 3: So we'll see if UTEP has has taken a step 508 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,479 Speaker 3: forward just by the results of this game. What I 509 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,479 Speaker 3: like about North Texas is skill talent. They have some 510 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 3: of the most skilled talent in the G five. Their 511 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 3: receiving room is awesome. If if gy you're shorter, and 512 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 3: Tommy Butcher a healthy. Those guys are are really, really good. 513 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 3: They're big league players. If they're their bodies don't betray 514 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 3: them and they join the Burns or Roderick Burns. I 515 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 3: was blanket on a Yeah. If you know, again, if 516 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 3: the other two guys they're outside receivers, both studs and 517 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 3: then Burns he joined the slot. Now you have three 518 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 3: stud receivers. You just have to figure out the quarterback thing. 519 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 3: Because Austin Owen, who's now like forty years old, if 520 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 3: he whether he can become confident or Grant Canew whether 521 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 3: you know, you finally sort of unearthed. 522 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 2: You know, he was a hype guy coming out. You 523 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 2: get competent. 524 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 3: Quarterback play out of one of those guys, everything is 525 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 3: good to jump up. Because North Texas also has like 526 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 3: five running backs. You know now that Oscar Adaway is back, 527 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 3: because last year they played like four different running backs 528 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 3: after Ataway towards ACL and the. 529 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: Song frustrating for CFF thor I know you know that. 530 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 3: Exactly, and almost all of them were good on a 531 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 3: per touch basis, but yes, that it was super frustrating 532 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 3: for CFF players because of that. 533 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: How about This is one of the most interesting games 534 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: I think of the week. Nevada is a nine point 535 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 1: favorite at New Mexico State, but Nevada has lost so 536 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,719 Speaker 1: much sore that I feel like I don't know if 537 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: they should even be favoring this game. At least they 538 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: should not be favored by nine. I think that this 539 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: should be a closer line here. What do you think 540 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: of this game? Is this in Nevada walk because we 541 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: know last year would have been Nevada by thirty, but 542 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: they lost so much. You know, their coach left, took transfers, 543 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: a lot of their talent went to the NFL as well, 544 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: Romeo Dubbs Cole Turner. So what do we think of 545 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: this game? Can New Mexico State Marcus Royo? Can he 546 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: lead these guys in check challenge Nevada in this game? 547 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 3: I agree with you that this is one of the 548 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 3: most interesting games of the week, and that right there 549 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 3: shows the. 550 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 2: Level of our brand. 551 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 1: It is week zero, man, We'll take what we can get. Well, 552 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 1: we'll take a hit, That's what it is. 553 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 3: That's yeah, because this game, I mean, just in a 554 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 3: vacuum is like the ugliest run to like, but like 555 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 3: it also is super duper fascinating because yeah, I mean 556 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 3: like Nevada. You know, on the other end of it, 557 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 3: USC is one of the most in fact, I believe 558 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 3: it's the most remade roster in staff probably year over year, 559 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 3: probably in college football history. Nevada is like on the 560 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 3: other end, I mean where it also is, but like 561 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 3: on on the negative polarity of it. You know, obviously 562 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 3: U Norvell left for for Colorado State, took his basically 563 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 3: his whole staff with him, took damn near half to 564 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 3: his roster with him as well, and then carts and Strong, 565 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 3: uh you know, went to the NFL. Multiple other players 566 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 3: went to the NFL as well. But unfortunately that that 567 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 3: wasn't all for Nevada. A bunch of their other players 568 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 3: left as well. 569 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 2: I mean, this was an exodus unlike any exodus we 570 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 2: have seen before. 571 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 3: Like you're talking a total crater. They hired this relative 572 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 3: unknown like in the outside football world, in Ken Wilson, 573 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 3: and they're just going to try to cobble together a roster. 574 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 3: But this is bad and and people are starting to 575 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 3: realize this is bad. Like earlier on in the off season, 576 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 3: I saw that their win total, I think it had 577 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 3: opened like maybe like six or five and a half 578 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 3: or like something like where. 579 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 2: It was way too high. It's down to three and 580 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 2: a half. 581 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: Now, ham are that under Yeah yeah maybe not now 582 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: three and a half sounds about right. 583 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, now it's down to where it ought to be. 584 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 3: But like like it was obviously way too high before. 585 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 3: And then you know, so that that's them on their side. 586 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 3: They are going to be just you know, garbage fire 587 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,719 Speaker 3: this year. And then New Mexico state side, they've been 588 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 3: a garbage fire for a long time. So it's like, 589 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 3: you know, it's like that that that toy story gift 590 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 3: where it's what are you looking at the spood sait 591 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 3: just like me tread But they get Jerry kill, you know, 592 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 3: and Jerry Kills he'd been out of the game for 593 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 3: a while, you know, for build. 594 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: Some programs, though he's done it before. 595 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 3: Jerry's a builder, you know, and he's he's one of 596 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 3: our own here in Minneapolis. He built up our gulfs 597 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 3: for a while, and obviously he had to step away 598 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 3: from the game for health concerns. But it's really good 599 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 3: to see him back on on the sidelines, and if 600 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 3: he gets some time, he's certainly going to build them 601 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 3: back up like he you know, it's one of those 602 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 3: things where he has a proven method. 603 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 2: He's going to build them back up. 604 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 3: It's probably gonna take him more than a year, you know, 605 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 3: because he's starting, you know, from the ground up here. 606 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 2: This program has been really bad for a while. 607 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 3: He and he doesn't have a lot of pieces, you know, 608 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 3: like some New Mexico State teams in the past, even 609 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 3: though they've been really bad, they've had like one piece, 610 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 3: Like you remember that New Mexico State team that had 611 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 3: like Larry Rows for a couple of years, or you know, 612 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 3: they like you know, here and there, they've had like 613 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 3: one good player. This team really didn't. But you know, again, 614 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 3: this is the off season of all the player movement, 615 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 3: and Jerry Killed did a couple interesting things in the 616 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 3: transfer portal. He took some stabs and threw some darts. 617 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 3: One of the interesting ones was there was a really 618 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 3: good Juco quarterback that some other teams wanted to This 619 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 3: kid named Dieg. I believe his last name is Pavia. 620 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 3: Did Diego Pavia. We'll see if they can hit lightning 621 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 3: in a bottle with that kid, or you know, with 622 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 3: a couple of their other guys. But you know again, 623 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 3: Jerry Kill knows how to coach, and he knows how 624 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 3: here's an important thing. He knows how to coach on 625 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 3: game days like that guy doesn't make mistakes like you know, 626 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 3: both with play calling and also just like the in 627 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 3: game stuff. It's one of those things when when you're 628 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 3: watching his team, you're never like upset at the decisions 629 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 3: being made. You know, it's it's like one of those 630 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 3: so you know, like I trust my my month, you know, 631 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 3: like betting on him, you know, one of those things. 632 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 3: And this is one of those where now the line 633 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 3: has come back down where it is closer in line 634 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 3: with reality. Like two weeks ago, even this line was 635 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 3: way off, you know, earlier in the offseason, it was 636 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 3: way off from reality. Now it's much closer to in 637 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 3: line with reality because in these last couple of weeks 638 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 3: people have started to get in tune with how bad 639 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 3: that is, because Nevada Beat writers are like starting to write, like, guys, 640 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 3: this team is gonna be. 641 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: This does not look good right here, Yeah. 642 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 3: Caught garbage. The live line is all the way down 643 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 3: to nine points. My my line, my numbers, it's New 644 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,479 Speaker 3: Mexico plus seven point two. I still think that the 645 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 3: line is too high by by a couple of points. 646 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 3: And I would tell you I think New Mexico State 647 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 3: is a live dog here. 648 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 2: I will probably wet my beak a. 649 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 3: Little bit on on this money line, and I'll have 650 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 3: a little bit on the spread too. 651 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: And I don't know why I said, Marcus Arroyo, it's 652 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: that trio of New Mexico, New Mexico State UNLV. I 653 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: will I will flip them, uh in their entire teams 654 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: in my brain. For whatever reason, I can't get it right. 655 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 3: Uh. 656 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: The last game that we have on this schedule, last 657 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: FBS game is Vandy is an eight and a half 658 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: point favorite at Hawaii. You have Hawaii in this game? 659 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: I think, straight up right, are are we still there? 660 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 3: Is that? 661 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: Is it gonna be Hawaii winning this game? With this 662 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: high powered offense? This is a you know, a nicely 663 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: recruited team, I would say in Vandy, Uh, but they 664 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: just have not put it together for a while here. 665 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: So should this be Hawaii favorite? Is the wrong team 666 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: favored in this game? 667 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,959 Speaker 2: Yeah? This is one of my biggest overlays of the 668 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 2: entire week. Zero. 669 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 3: You know, like you said, live in Vegas right now, 670 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 3: it's Vanderbilt minus eight and a half. My adjusted number 671 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 3: on this game is Hawaii minus two, so I have 672 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 3: an overlay on this game of ten and a half points. 673 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 3: I do believe the wrong team is favored here in 674 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 3: a vacuum. In my power rankings, I think I have Vandy. 675 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 2: Just slightly, ever so slightly ahead of Hawaii, but with 676 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 2: the home field advantage, it flips it a little bit. 677 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 2: You know. There's a couple of different things going on. 678 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously both of these teams. 679 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 3: Are they're quite bad. 680 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 2: You know. 681 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 3: With with uh Hawaii, Timmy ching Is is coming back, 682 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 3: you know, the favorite son. 683 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 2: He's replaced Todd Graham. It's you know, it's it's. 684 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 3: Sort of like we're it's it's sort of similar to 685 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 3: like what we were talking about with Yukon, where the 686 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 3: Yukon players were all sick of Randy Edson. 687 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. I just remember the Randy Edsel when he went 688 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: for everybody's hand up and no one would do it 689 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: with him. I was like, yeah, that is that's on 690 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: the sideline with the camera looking at you. 691 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,479 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was. 692 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 3: It was even it was even worse for Todd Graham 693 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 3: this offseason when the legislatures of Hawaii started to go 694 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 3: after I'm like, yeah, it was sort of unprecedented when 695 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 3: when uh yeah, when the lawmakers start to go after 696 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 3: your job like that. Yeah, you remember when when the 697 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 3: story came out that that Todd Graham was like he 698 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 3: was he called the Hawaii a third world country because 699 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 3: they didn't have doctor Pepper in the in the pop machetes. 700 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 2: It was like what it was like, oh boy, yeah, 701 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 2: Todd Lord. 702 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: What a stupid thing to say. You're the head coach 703 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: of the most prestigious university. 704 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I got I think his firing was announced like 705 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 3: two hours later. It was like, yeah, it's Todd, that's 706 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 3: it's yeah, the hour. 707 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 2: Is nigh Todd. So so you go. You go from 708 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 2: that where literally all your players hate you, all all 709 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 2: the parents hate you, The entire the entire island of 710 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 2: Hawaii hates you, and and all the lawmakers to the 711 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 2: entire part of the world hates you. 712 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 3: To now all those people love Timmy Chang. Timmy, Yeah, 713 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 3: Timmy Chang would be on the Mount Rushmore of Hawaii. 714 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: I did dicey though, like because Scott Frost the same 715 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: thing with Scott Frost and Nebraska. But if you. If 716 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: you don't win, it doesn't matter what you did in 717 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: the past, you're gonna get run off. So I was 718 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: I always find that kind of dicey, and I do 719 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: think that those universities will leave the leash a little 720 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: too long as well. Sometimes, like Scott Frost. I think 721 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: if Scott Frost was in the Nebraska legend, he probably 722 00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't be coaching there this year, right, It'd be somebody 723 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: else because he's a legend. They want to give that 724 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,719 Speaker 1: longer leash. So that can be dicey. But if it works, uh, 725 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: you know, you're a god in that state, so it 726 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: could work. 727 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 2: Without a doubt, I mean without a doubt. But what 728 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 2: Hawaii's program needed right now was a change of culture. 729 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: Just anybody, yeah, anybody else on that seat except for 730 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:20,280 Speaker 1: the program. 731 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 3: I think they needed a specific kind of a guy, 732 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 3: right because they had a specific kind of a problem 733 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 3: and so, you know, getting changed it changed what their 734 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 3: problem had been. Chang specifically addressed it, and so like 735 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 3: you know, and not only that he you know, you 736 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 3: address that part of it, but also Chang addresses the 737 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 3: thing of bringing the style of football back that not 738 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 3: only that your fans prefer, but that you utilized in 739 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 3: your heyday that you know that that is always you know, 740 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 3: at the peak of your program, you know that that 741 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 3: that's what you use or whatever. 742 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:04,399 Speaker 1: Sling that rock Timmy Chang, Colt Brennan, Yeah, the Hawaii Classics. 743 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 2: That's exactly right. Yeah, So so we're going back to 744 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 2: the the the run and shoot that. 745 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 3: That should be good and we'll see if that ends up, 746 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 3: you know, playing up the the offense. They also have 747 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 3: to to fix the defense, you know, that's that's been 748 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 3: a problem as well. They don't have a ton of 749 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 3: guys returning. I think it's uh six six guys returning. 750 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 3: It's another situation where they signed a bunch of transfers. 751 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,399 Speaker 3: The returning quarterback is Brennan Schrager. I watched that kid 752 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 3: last year, was not impressed. He does have a decent arm, 753 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 3: but you know, just from my eye test, he did 754 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 3: not seem to have a bunch of pocket presence, the accuracy. 755 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 3: Scattershot was putting it nicely. I'll see, you know, we'll 756 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 3: see what what Timmy Chang can do with them over 757 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 3: the offseason. Because that was obviously working with with Graham 758 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 3: and and and he was a young kid at the time, 759 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,320 Speaker 3: but they brought in his competition for him, kim On Cooper, 760 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 3: who was a former hype type type recruit for Mike Leach, 761 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 3: you know, was brought in to run that the air 762 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 3: raid was obviously didn't work out there, but you know, 763 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 3: we'll see now down down in Hawaii. And then Joey Yellen, 764 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 3: who is another former height to recruit, So you know, 765 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 3: you have a three headed monster there, and then they 766 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 3: have a whole bunch of different receivers and you know, 767 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 3: you toss it together. Meanwhile, on the Vanderbilt side, they 768 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,720 Speaker 3: have their two quarterbacks back. Neither of them has acquitted 769 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 3: themselves well. Mike Mike Wright ended last season. He hasn't 770 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 3: played super duper well. The backup was the guy that 771 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 3: started last year, Ken Easter Seals. He hasn't been great either. 772 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 3: The one good piece of news for that offense is 773 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,359 Speaker 3: you get back Ramond the Rock Davis, the guy who 774 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 3: had been at Temple previously. 775 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 1: Uhmond, that's a big running back. I mean, that's a 776 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 1: big get back for sure. 777 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, what I was gonna say. 778 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,919 Speaker 3: That kid is going to play in the NFL if 779 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 3: his body doesn't betray him. And that is an enormous 780 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 3: if like when he's playing, he's really good. Like his 781 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 3: talent level is not like for Vane fans, it's not 782 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,879 Speaker 3: super duper far off from Key Sean vaugh Like, I mean, 783 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 3: he's he's a good player, and not only that, like 784 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 3: as a runner, he can handle the usage as a receiver, 785 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,359 Speaker 3: so you can just feed him volume. But it's it's 786 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 3: like this double edged short because it's like you you 787 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,799 Speaker 3: want to feed them all the candy and just like 788 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 3: you know, especially if you're this crappy team like Bandy, 789 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 3: you want to like give him, you know, thirty five touches, 790 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 3: you know whatever. But he he gets injured so easily. 791 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,919 Speaker 3: You know, he's had all these different injuries. And last 792 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,919 Speaker 3: year he was playing really well in their first couple 793 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 3: of games and they were all excited and he's gonna 794 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 3: be our big bell call of this year and we're 795 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 3: gonna give him, you know, two hundred and fifty touches. 796 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 3: And then he gets injured and he's out for the 797 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 3: year and the second game or whatever. It'll be a 798 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 3: huge deal for them. Whether he can stay healthy this 799 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 3: entire season. I don't know if they're gonna try to 800 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 3: plat tune in I think his name is Rockoll Griffin 801 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,280 Speaker 3: off the bench. That was the kid that that basically 802 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 3: took over, you know, when when Davis went down, you know, 803 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 3: down the stretch last season, or if they're gonna chuck 804 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 3: try to have Davis, you know. 805 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 1: This time, do it again and see if he holds up, 806 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: I mean might as well. I think if you're Vandy right. 807 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 2: The definition of insanity though, you know, I. 808 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 1: Mean, like yeah that's true. 809 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I mean, you know, but like if you know, 810 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,400 Speaker 3: if if Davis was healthy, you know, well just speaking 811 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 3: for this game, like if Davis makes it through this game, 812 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 3: like I mean, like he's gonna put up you know, 813 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 3: I mean like one hundred and fifty you know, plus 814 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 3: yards of total offense for sure. I mean, like he's 815 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,880 Speaker 3: he's a really good player, so I mean he's going 816 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 3: to be the focal point of the offense. 817 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 2: They also have a pretty good uh receiving corps. You know, 818 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,800 Speaker 2: Will Shepherd is a pretty solid uh stout outside receiver. 819 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 2: So you have a couple of pieces like that. It's 820 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 2: just like the quarterback play, you know, like I said, 821 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 2: hasn't been there. And then they have issues on the 822 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,439 Speaker 2: offensive line. They actually had an NFL player there last year, 823 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 2: it's this kid that transferred to Alabama like he was 824 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 2: a stud and then Alabama's like, yeah, we're gonna We're 825 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 2: gonna take that kid. 826 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I mean, that's just what happens. 827 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 2: And then the defense thinks as well. 828 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,040 Speaker 3: So I mean, I guess the cliff notes of this 829 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 3: one would be these two teams are very much in 830 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 3: the same file. It's just that Vandy's, you know, traveling 831 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 3: forty five hundred miles the other way. I'm not really 832 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 3: sure why they are laying you know, seven points on 833 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 3: the road like this. I like Hawaii to win this 834 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 3: game out right. 835 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it, Thor, and it's gonna be an 836 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 1: exciting season. We will be back with you guys next week. 837 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,319 Speaker 1: But before we go, once again at thor ku on 838 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,879 Speaker 1: Twitter and Thor tell everyone, what do you have coming 839 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 1: up this week? And if I'm not even sure, we 840 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 1: haven't talked about it. Do you have like a weekly 841 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,759 Speaker 1: schedule betting pros? What articles a you're gonna be doing. 842 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 1: I know you're gonna have a show with Thomas on 843 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 1: Sundays as well. I think that will come out on Monday. 844 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 1: So just let everyone know what the plan is for 845 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: you here at Betting Pros so they could get excited 846 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 1: about it and know where to find all your work. 847 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 2: I have to even look at my schedule right now because. 848 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 3: There's, yeah, there's. 849 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 2: A whole bunch of stuff on it. 850 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 3: Like I got an early lines, call them coming out 851 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 3: on on Mondays, We're all like update my power ratings 852 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 3: and then put out the the lines for like the 853 00:39:58,520 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 3: coming week. 854 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 2: I have the sun a show that that you mentioned. 855 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 3: Where I'll say, like I'll go over the the early 856 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 3: lines for the first time, you know, like my projected 857 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 3: lines for the coming weekst games. On on Tuesday, I'll 858 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 3: do like a futures column, you know, talking about like 859 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 3: the updated future lines and if there's any like Heisman 860 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 3: bets or Natty line updates that that would be interesting, 861 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 3: you know that that have any value or stuff like that. 862 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 2: We have a discord you you and. 863 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 1: I right, we have the Yeah, every Wednesday, we're going 864 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 1: to be doing a discord I believe at five eastern, 865 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,799 Speaker 1: four Central. Uh So we will talk college football with 866 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 1: you guys for an hour on that as well, talk 867 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,240 Speaker 1: about your lines, any prospects you want to talk about. 868 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 1: That'll be a great time over there. 869 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,880 Speaker 2: And then we do we're oh and then and then. 870 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 1: This show, this show of course, yeah yeah. 871 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 3: Every week and then on Thursdays I do call them 872 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 3: with my ten favorite sides of the week, you know, 873 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,359 Speaker 3: every week going forward, and then on uh. One thing 874 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 3: I'm super excited about this year is on Saturdays, ten 875 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 3: am Eastern weekly every single week with Mike Farrell, the 876 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 3: former Rivals national scouting director. We're doing a kickoff show 877 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,320 Speaker 3: where we go through every single game on the card, 878 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 3: giving you guys betting advice, the sides, the totals, DFS props. 879 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,480 Speaker 3: Mike is you know, I didn't know this before, but 880 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,239 Speaker 3: like just over the offseason talking to him, this guy 881 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 3: is like a super sick savage with betting. 882 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,800 Speaker 2: Like he's been like like he told. 883 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,799 Speaker 3: Me, like he's just always down with like the DraftKings 884 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 3: app and the Fan Dual app like for years and 885 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 3: stuff like this, And so we started chatting about all 886 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,879 Speaker 3: this stuff and anyhow we ended up conceiving this show 887 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,400 Speaker 3: and I'm just like super stoked to be able to 888 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 3: do with him. 889 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 2: So I hope people will check it out. I'm just 890 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:48,359 Speaker 2: jacked about it. 891 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,760 Speaker 1: I mean, look, that is six seven days a week. 892 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 1: You can find for giving you articles and giving you 893 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 1: content for college football here at Betting Pros. You follow 894 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 1: me on Twitter, like I said, at Bogman Sports excuse me, 895 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 1: and you can find me here doing this show. I'm 896 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 1: going to be doing an IDP show with Joe Pizapia 897 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 1: as well. We'll be doing stages on Wednesday night. I 898 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 1: was doing them Monday, is going to be moving those 899 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: to Wednesday night to talk about some fantasy football with 900 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 1: you guys. And Thor is going to be on the 901 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 1: show with Pat and I this week talking about the 902 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three draft class as well. So we're going 903 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 1: to get that all scheduled up and ready to rock 904 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 1: for next week, so you guys can check that out. 905 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 1: You can also see all my stuff over at in 906 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,320 Speaker 1: this league dot com that I do with the Welsh 907 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,239 Speaker 1: Baseball football, all kinds of goofy stuff. That's why I 908 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 1: have no beard right now. I lost. We do this 909 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 1: thing on Wednesdays called the Wheel, and I had to 910 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 1: shave my beard live on the Wheel, So go check 911 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 1: that out if you guys would as well. But we 912 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 1: will see you guys next week. Good luck and take 913 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:49,279 Speaker 1: it easy. We will see you then