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Speaker 1: Fresh episode of Fish Bites with Eli Sussman and Alex

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Speaker 1: Contraras of Fish Stripes. You know what we do covering

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Speaker 1: there at fish Stripes. New stuff every day, you know,

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Speaker 1: keeping you entertained through this delayed season, but seeing the

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Speaker 1: light at the end of the tunnel. Maybe a lot

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Speaker 1: of developments on that situation that we're gonna be discussing

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Speaker 1: in just a minute, a special topic that was inspired

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Speaker 1: by a question that we saw on Twitter about players

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Speaker 1: that had quick but memorable runs with the Marlins just

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Speaker 1: one season at a time with the organization, and more

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Speaker 1: about celebrating the history of the Marlins as well. We

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Speaker 1: have got great fans mission on fishtripes dot Com that

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Speaker 1: we're gonna bring up as well to get into all that.

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Speaker 1: This is a late night with the fish recording at

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Speaker 1: the end of a long Wednesday. Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: Alex for bringing your perspective in to join me tonight.

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Speaker 2: Thanks a lot for having me Eli, I'm so glad

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Speaker 2: to be here. For you for Fish Stripes and all

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Speaker 2: the Fish Nation. Man, I can't wait to talk about

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Speaker 2: some Marlins baseball.

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Speaker 1: And we'll start with the good news. Good news is

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Speaker 1: that Marlins are stepping up at the highest levels at

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Speaker 1: the leadership levels of the organization. Where we continue to

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Speaker 1: have no finite start date for the season. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot of skepticism that we're gonna have no minor league

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Speaker 1: baseball at all in twenty twenty. But despite that, the

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Speaker 1: team is committing it into their investing in its future

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Speaker 1: and committing to the young guys that represent the bright

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Speaker 1: future of the organization, the top prospects on the team

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Speaker 1: that are not even on the roster that we're put

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Speaker 1: in this situation where all thirty teams they agreed to

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Speaker 1: play their minor leaguers a weekly stipends through the months

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Speaker 1: of April and May, keeping them going, guys that don't

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Speaker 1: have a lot of financial security that were really depending

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Speaker 1: with that expiration date coming up, there's now this flexibility

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Speaker 1: for themselves in taking care of their minor leaguers, and

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Speaker 1: the Marlins on Wednesday morning, first reported by Baseball America

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Speaker 1: and since confirmed, that all of their prospects are going

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Speaker 1: to be continue to get their weekly stipends. It's four

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Speaker 1: hundred bucks a week, every single week through the end

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Speaker 1: of the summer, representing like the entire minor league season.

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Speaker 1: The team is continuing to pay them through the summer,

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Speaker 1: even at a time where we know the situation that

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Speaker 1: the American economy is in, how difficult it would be

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Speaker 1: these guys to get side jobs, and even the ones

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Speaker 1: being minor league players, but team recognizing that they still

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Speaker 1: need to train, that they're still parts of the team

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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty and beyond, and committing to pay all

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Speaker 1: their prospects through the end of the summer, on one hand,

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Speaker 1: a surprising move, something that's uncharacteristic of what the Marlins

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Speaker 1: have done in the past. By at the same time,

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Speaker 1: that's kind of what you would expect from from Derek

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Speaker 1: Teter and from this front office has been showing us

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Speaker 1: throughout the past two and a half three years that

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Speaker 1: they're really committed to building this organization from the grounds

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Speaker 1: up right, can.

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Speaker 3: You hit out Eli?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that round of applause.

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Speaker 2: That's a round of applies to the Miami New Orleans

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Speaker 2: for Bruce Sherman, for Derek Jeter, and for all the

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Speaker 2: front office and the entire organization. The Marlins have shown

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Speaker 2: that they are a class organization. I want us to

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Speaker 2: completely eliminate us from Jeffrey Laurier. Okay, Jeffrey Laurier is

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Speaker 2: a thing of the past, and it is a thing

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Speaker 2: that we should never ever ever mention again in Florida

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Speaker 2: Marlins Miami Marlins history. Okay, the only time we should

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Speaker 2: But the point of the fact is that Bruce Sherman

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Speaker 2: and Derrek Jeter have taken it to another level in

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Speaker 2: terms of caring about the South Florida community. Okay, when

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Speaker 2: I say that these guys were given out free masks,

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Speaker 2: my friends, takes it to another another level. Okay, for

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Speaker 2: all those fans out there that are talking about that

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Speaker 2: the Mornins are chief stakes and.

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Speaker 3: They don't spend any money on the team.

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Speaker 2: I want you, the guys, to take this chance right

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Speaker 2: now or when we're in quarantine, to just sit back,

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Speaker 2: open your eyes and look at the Florida Marlins, You're

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Speaker 2: Miami Marlins, at all our other thirty teams, and just

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Speaker 2: To me, that's the American dream, Okay in South Florida.

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Speaker 2: This goes beyond the Marlins, Okay, because this franchise, this

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Speaker 2: ownership has shown, has determined that they are proven to

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Speaker 3: And I really don't know what more you can expect, don't.

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Speaker 2: I really don't know what more you could ask from

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Speaker 2: as a fan of the Miami Marlins, of the Florida Marlins,

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Speaker 2: of a baseball fan from Miami Marlins. I don't know

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Speaker 2: when we came here, we.

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Speaker 4: Made a few promises to the fan base here. We

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's a step above what most of the

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Speaker 1: it's not really about that. It's not necessarily about like

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Speaker 2: And yeah, go ah, I'm sorry, I'm sorry to interrupt you, lie,

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Speaker 2: But if we're talking about treating everybody equally, the Miami

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Speaker 2: unlike the twenty nine other Major League Baseball teams, the

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, and that's what I want the

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Speaker 3: John Hayman did tweet about it.

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Speaker 1: He did put a little tweet congratulating the team on

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Speaker 2: So I mean John, Yeah, John finally shed a little

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Speaker 3: And you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: The only the five percent of the time that they're

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Speaker 3: Finally win a World Series.

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Speaker 2: So I think it's time for Major League Baseball and

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Speaker 1: Of absolutely it's training in the right direction. One other

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Speaker 2: and you guys are not coming through with the base

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Speaker 2: for MYRIGORITHM organization or my players organization.

439
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Speaker 1: And it's not so much that I think they're despicable people,

440
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: that they're unqualified people, but they really they just don't

441
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: work well together.

442
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Speaker 3: I'm not. I don't have anything against Rob Manford. I

443
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 3: don't have anything against Tony Clark. I'm not. Tony Clark

444
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 3: was a great guy.

445
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 2: Great pinch hitter, even when he was with the Yankees

446
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 2: and got a pinch hit.

447
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Speaker 3: Double after Marlin's the World Series. I don't have anything

448
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 3: against Tony Clark. My beef with him is.

449
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Speaker 2: Is that you need to step up for major league

450
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 2: players and minor league players, and you need to say

451
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 2: what's right from wrong.

452
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Speaker 3: Bro. If you don't stop up, Now, who the hell

453
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 3: is gonna step up? Who the hell is gonna be

454
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 3: the next Major League Baseball commissioner?

455
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 2: Everybody talked about, Uh, I'm sorry, who the hell was?

456
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Speaker 3: Who the hell was the last MLB commissioner?

457
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Speaker 2: It was.

458
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 3: Bud I'm sorry it was Bud Seely all right, And

459
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 3: you guys wanna talk about Rob Manford? Who the hell

460
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 3: is the next guy up? Who's the next guy up

461
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Speaker 3: after Tony Clark? I don't see anybody talking about that.

462
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 2: Everybody talking about, Oh, Rob Manfred did a shitty job

463
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 2: with the Houston Ashos.

464
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 3: Rob Manford didn't.

465
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 2: Deal a good such a good job with the proposal

466
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Speaker 2: to the MLB Players Association on what's going to happen

467
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 2: next after the pandemic with the coronavirus.

468
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Speaker 3: And I respect that and I can.

469
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Speaker 2: Completely agree with that, But who decides who votes for

470
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Speaker 2: the next Major League Baseball commissioner under Bud Ceiling, it

471
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Speaker 2: was Rob Manford, who is under Rob Manfred?

472
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Speaker 3: Does anybody know that? Eli? Do you know that.

473
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Speaker 1: Right? I'm not off the top of my head. No.

474
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I feel like it's all like a mafia

475
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Speaker 2: bro Like how did Tony Clark? No disrespect to Tony Clark,

476
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 2: but how did Tony Clark make it to the president

477
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:57,360
Speaker 2: of Major League Baseball Operations, the players' operations?

478
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 3: How did he make it to the top of that chain?

479
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 2: All right?

480
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 3: How did not How did a guy not like Chipper

481
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 3: Jones get there?

482
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 2: Or a guy that supposedly cares so much a bit

483
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 2: about Major League Baseball, like Alex Rodriguez? Why didn't a

484
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 2: Rod or a Royd or whatever you wanted to call him,

485
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 2: Why didn't he step up to the plate and I

486
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 2: step up for.

487
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Speaker 3: Every single Major League Baseball player when they needed to.

488
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 3: All A Rod's going to talk about all the players

489
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 3: need to cut coin side. They need to agree with

490
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Speaker 3: the MLB owners in this moment.

491
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Speaker 6: What how long has major League Baseball been around for?

492
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 6: How many years have the Major League Baseball owners one money.

493
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:53,719
Speaker 2: Year after year after year after year. But now that

494
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 2: we see what a handful of players making over three

495
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars, Now I'm toldkay to say, hey, you

496
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 2: know we're not gonna take well, oh, we're gonna take

497
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Speaker 2: this amount of money from our players.

498
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Speaker 3: No, I'm sorry, I'm really sorry. But there's no way

499
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 3: in hell.

500
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Speaker 2: That major League Baseball fans, major League Baseball organizations, franchises,

501
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 2: anybody that follows baseball should be following the leaders, following

502
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 2: these guys, Manfred Tony Clark, What have you done to

503
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 2: be there? What have you done to continuabling there? And

504
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 2: who's next up? Who the hell decides who evaluates Yell's job?

505
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 2: And do you think that it's legit for a major

506
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 2: league player, the highest major league player they'll be winning

507
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 2: thirty million dollars this year, to be told hey, there's

508
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 2: a pandemic and you're only gonna win six Or a

509
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 2: major league player that's only gonna win million, they're gonna

510
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 2: tell them.

511
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 3: Hey, you're only gonna win two million.

512
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 2: Or a player that's only gonna win two million, they're

513
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 2: gonna tell them, hey, listen, you're not even gonna win

514
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 2: half a million dollars. You're gonna win four hundred million dollars.

515
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 2: How about that four hundred thousand.

516
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

517
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Speaker 1: One of the issues I think is with leadership on

518
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,959
Speaker 1: both sides of the equation is that these jobs aren't

519
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: exactly like a walk in the park that you get

520
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: on these jobs and not glamorous and maybe not all

521
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: that fulfilling. You don't get like the most qualified people

522
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: trying to compete for these jobs and really being candidates

523
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: that you mentioned name dropped, all those like amazing players

524
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Speaker 1: that you'd want to be a voice for the association

525
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Speaker 1: after their careers are over and they you know, they

526
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: do other things with their time because not only because

527
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: they're well enough offer they don't need like a normal

528
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: job moving forward, but yeah, they just don't want the stress,

529
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: I guess of being involved in these negotiations. It's an

530
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,719
Speaker 1: ugliest between the owners and the players, not just in

531
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: this issue, not just under Bud Seily, but it's like

532
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: it has a long legacy of having these conflicts, having

533
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: these including having the player strike a quarter century ago

534
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: where they just could not agree to a deal and

535
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: had to cancel the World Series that year. It's always

536
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: been a lot of tension between the two sides. You know,

537
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: it's the same issue that you have in every major sport,

538
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: but for whatever reason, in baseball it gets it's got

539
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: more contentious than ever. One thing obviously that plast this

540
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: season is that it's half the length of the typical

541
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Speaker 1: season that's going to be and there's gonna be one

542
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: more year under the Collective Bargaining Agreement in twenty twenty one.

543
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Speaker 1: But after that there's the potential for so much to change.

544
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Speaker 1: So many things that we know about the sport, and

545
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: except of the sport have the opportunity to change. And

546
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: I mean one of those that brought up earlier before

547
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: we started recording, and something that's only been on a

548
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: lot of people's mind is the length of the season,

549
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: where for decades it used to be one hundred and

550
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: fifty four games, but for the last sixty years or so,

551
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: it's been one hundred and sixty two. That's the number

552
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: that everybody has commid's memory. That's all the cliches are

553
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: about playing one hundred and sixty two, about running the

554
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: whole marathon, and all our records are based on that.

555
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: In recent years. However, you know, it's something that is

556
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: so much longer than any other sport Before this COVID

557
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: nineteen hit, there had been concerns about baseball and questions

558
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: about why baseball is not dying but cinly losing a

559
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: younger audience and what changes could be made to like

560
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: make it more interesting on a daily basis or or

561
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: you know, more wholesale changes through the format that make

562
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: it more exciting moving forward. So we're going to have

563
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: if this season moves forward, it's going to be eighty

564
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: two games. I know you're pessimistic about this particular issue.

565
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: I'm just staying on the side that despite all the

566
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: ugliness coming out publicly, that these sides are going to

567
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: figure it out and they're going to play a season.

568
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,719
Speaker 1: We might have won sixty two again and next year

569
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: in two one, But after that, what direction do you

570
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: think the league is heading in of what I.

571
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 2: Would love for this season to be a hundred games? Right,

572
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 2: But that's just the baseball passion and fanatic in me.

573
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 2: But here in my front now, after this whole pandemic's

574
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: gone down, and he's telling me, yo, eighty two game

575
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 2: season is the definitely way to go, right because Americans

576
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 2: have a short span attention. Okay, Americans love watching a

577
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 2: sixteen game NFL season. They love watching eighty two games

578
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,479
Speaker 2: in the NBA season. Why in the hell would they

579
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 2: love watching.

580
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 3: One hundred and sixty two game season.

581
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 2: The majority of baseball fans that watch baseball, they don't

582
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 2: start watching baseball until July, until after the All Star Game,

583
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 2: you know, And that really that that pushes my bundant.

584
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 2: It grinds my gears, because what the hell are you

585
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 2: guys doing for four months and not paying attention to baseball?

586
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 2: Those are beautiful months in the baseball season. But now

587
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 2: that this whole pandemic is happening, I can really put

588
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 2: myself in his shoes and understand what the hell he's saying,

589
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 2: because for the first time since eighteen I don't know what,

590
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 2: we haven't had baseball since April. Ladies and gentlemen, I

591
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 2: hate to break the news to you, but we're in June.

592
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 2: We are really in June, and there is still no baseball.

593
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 2: There is still no opening Day. So I hate to

594
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: break it to you, But what my friend is saying,

595
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 2: my friend, flip, he's totally correct, Like we are so

596
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 2: close to the chance of having baseball seasons restructured and

597
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 2: baseball seasons like taken to a whole different level, Like,

598
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 2: we're not gonna have one hundred.

599
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 3: And sixty two game seasons anymore.

600
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 2: We're not gonna have those three hundred million dollars contracts anymore.

601
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 2: We're not gonna see Bryce, Harper and Cole signing these

602
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 2: major league contracts, these three hundred million dollar contracts.

603
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 3: It's not gonna happen anymore.

604
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 2: Because once Major League Baseball takes it upon themselves to

605
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 2: accept this eighty two game season, regardless if we have

606
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,919
Speaker 2: all the major League stars or not, they're gonna see

607
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 2: a boom in population. And this boom is gonna be

608
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 2: so unfortunate that we're gonna lose half of those games

609
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 2: because that boom is going right down to the playoff race,

610
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 2: the playoff crunch, the moment of truth. If you look

611
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 2: at TV ratings in sports, people only really hop in

612
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 2: tune in into sports when they're in playoff races. And

613
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 2: to keep it one thousand, when all of you guys,

614
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 2: ain't nobody, Ain't nobody gonna follow no MLB race until

615
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 2: we get past the All Star Game. How do we

616
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 2: get attention past the All Star Game or before the

617
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 2: All Star Game? You make the Major League Baseball season shorter.

618
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 2: That being said, if you make the baseball season shorter,

619
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 2: say goodbye to the Ted Williams records, say goodbye to

620
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 2: the Arry Bonds records, say goodbye to the three hundred

621
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Speaker 2: run three hundred strikeout seasons, say goodbye to all that,

622
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 2: there's gonna be a whole different perspective to Major League

623
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Speaker 2: Baseball and the rules of the game. That's really how

624
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 2: I feel after Quarantine twenty twenty.

625
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, I think there's a lot of middle ground

626
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: between this half season and one sixty two, And of

627
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: course it's it's gonna be difficult. One thing through in

628
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: there is the question about those individual contractions. They won't

629
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: be trying to like cut off any of the revenue

630
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: that sport is generating. They're trying to walk that line

631
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Speaker 1: between making you know, like taking the stress off of

632
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: the player and like opening up the schedule, but also

633
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: you know, trying to draw more eyeballs to those individual

634
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: games and make it a better product. They're trying to

635
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: keep that money flowing in and keep the best players paid,

636
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: and just trying to do it in a different type

637
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: of format. So I think it's gonna say close to

638
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: one sixty two moving forward, but something that is very

639
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: clear is that because of the obvious concerns on everybody's

640
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: side about everything it takes to put it together, that

641
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: kind of length of a schedule and all the resources

642
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: and attention and health and injury risks that puts people

643
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: through in the process, that there's obvious perks to shortinating

644
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: it up. But that's that's gonna be a matter for

645
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: once we get through this, once we get through this week,

646
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: and I know time passes by so slowly when we're

647
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 1: in the middle of like these situations, but we'll get

648
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: through this week, hopefully get through this season, and yeah,

649
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot more clarity to that afterwards,

650
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 1: once we hopefully make it through the other for this

651
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: whole situation.

652
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 2: One of the good things that we can say that

653
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 2: the Major League Players Association has been able to get

654
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 2: on the same page with in terms of the Owners

655
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 2: Association and MLB is that we have all come to

656
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 2: terms on a universal agreement for the designated hitter for

657
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty season. That's the one thing that we

658
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 2: can say that we evolved get on the same page

659
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 2: and see the same thing.

660
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: It's beautiful. It's beautiful. I've been hoping for that for

661
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: a while now. That's gonna be a lot of fun

662
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: to follow this season as well, and how the Marlins

663
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: take advantage of that. Yeah, we want to go from

664
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,439
Speaker 1: here back to the Marlins specifically. This is a Marlin show.

665
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 1: And I was inspired by a tweet that I saw

666
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: just a few days ago. This was from Megan Brown,

667
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: who does a lot of great baseball content on Twitter,

668
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: and it was a pretty basic question about just naming

669
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 1: one favorite player from your favorite team that only spent

670
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: one season with that particular team, somebody that made such

671
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 1: a great impression on the team in such a limited

672
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: amount of time. And the Marlins this upcoming season, they

673
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: have guys that are on expiring deals the people are

674
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: excited about, like Jonathan vr like Jimmy Garcia, Francisco Cervelli,

675
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: guys that might not be here long, but guys that

676
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 1: you could learn to like really really quickly. And there's

677
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 1: a big history of that throughout throughout Marlins history. The

678
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: one thing that we haven't had on the player side

679
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: for most of the franchises existence is there hasn't been

680
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: a lot of continuity with the players. Very famous for

681
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 1: trading a lot of these guys at various points, but

682
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,439
Speaker 1: otherwise like really recognizing opportunities when the team is ready

683
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: to contend and go for it with these short contracts

684
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: and in a couple instances nineteen ninety seven, two thousand

685
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: and three that has worked out where they bring in guys.

686
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: Those guys have an immediate impact and they go on

687
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: somewhere else, but they remain intertwined in Marlin's history forever.

688
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: And we both put a lot of thought into this

689
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: about not just one guy, because you don't want to

690
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: just limit it to one guy that's so fun. You

691
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about players at almost every position that

692
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: we can think of in the Marlins history that were

693
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,280
Speaker 1: just here one year, one and done with the Marlins organization,

694
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: but they left such a lasting impression on all of us.

695
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: Who are some of the guys that came to mind

696
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: for you when you were going through this, well.

697
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 2: You like when I was looking through Florida Marlins and

698
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 2: Miami Marlins history, you'd be surprised by the amount of

699
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 2: players that we've had in our history that've only played

700
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 2: here for one year. Can you guess a number of

701
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 2: players that have played here for just only one year?

702
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 3: Just give me a number.

703
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: I did. I'm not the best person to ask, because

704
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: I'm pretty handy with my research tools. I don't remember

705
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: the exact number, So I guess this is somewhat of

706
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: a guest. I would guess about one hundred.

707
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 2: Well, you're half short of that, half short of that,

708
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 2: all right, So if anybody guessed half of that of

709
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 2: what Eli said, you guys are on point, and you

710
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 2: guys can make it over Eli sustin. Anyway, there was

711
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 2: over fifty eight players that called my attention that were

712
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 2: only on the Florida Marlins one year deals. All right.

713
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 2: Out of those fifty eight players, I was able to

714
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 2: make two Team A and Team B lineups. Okay, for

715
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:36,720
Speaker 2: my teammate, I have sorry, Afi Catcher Ivon Pudge Rodriguez. Okay,

716
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 2: he only played one year here with the Fish, but

717
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 2: he made me count.

718
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 3: You got to check the two.

719
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 7: Alfin Hammond steps in one out of three with a

720
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,439
Speaker 7: walk today. He being a deal a line five hot

721
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 7: into left field, breaking in Conine can't get.

722
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 4: Doing up with it.

723
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 2: The runners waiting.

724
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 3: Here's the throat of the play. Pudge is waiting.

725
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 2: He kags didn't get knocked over.

726
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 3: Hold on hell of Marlins win the game.

727
00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 7: Flanna play to end it.

728
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 2: First base fan Carlos Delgado, all right, really.

729
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 3: All just depends on the base runners.

730
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 7: Collinsworth going back on this one, he is at the

731
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 7: warning track and it is out and it is tied.

732
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 7: Del Gatto with his twenty sixth home run. It is

733
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 7: a three run shot, and on a day like this,

734
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,479
Speaker 7: so left handed hitter is best served going the other way,

735
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 7: and that's what del Gatto did.

736
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 3: We got at second base.

737
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 2: This is one of the positions that I saw at

738
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 2: the Marlins were very thin on. Was the middle of

739
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 2: the infield and coming in at second base. To justify

740
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, is Homer Bush? How many how many

741
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 2: of you guys out there on this podcast really recognize

742
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 2: who Homer Bush was?

743
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 3: I recognize him.

744
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: Don't think of the Marlin first, that's for sure. You

745
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: think probably with a couple of other teams before that.

746
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:00,919
Speaker 2: Yeah.

747
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 3: Anyway, Third baseman Chris Johnson.

748
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 2: Chris Johnson was involved in that brawl between Jose Fernandez

749
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 2: and the Atlanta Praise when Jose went deep and Brian

750
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 2: McCann got in his face.

751
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: That's right.

752
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 2: Playing shortstop for the Florida Marlins and team A Is,

753
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 2: even though he didn't play shortstop with the Fish. Key

754
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 2: k Hernandez Heah, y'all remember kyk played for the Marlins, y'all.

755
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't get it twisted.

756
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 2: In the outfield we had from nineteen ninety seven, Moises

757
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 2: lou We have another outfielder is Carlos el Ca Bayo Lee,

758
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 2: Carlos Helayo Lee. I got him out in right field.

759
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 2: And if we want to talk about logistics, who is

760
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 2: gonna be on in center field? I'm gonna pick Mike Cameron,

761
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 2: all right, Mike Cameron, Carlos Leeve, mois Key k Hernandez,

762
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 2: Chris Johnson, Homer Bush, Carlos Ogado and the Von Rodriguez.

763
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 2: The guys on a bench, I got Ross Lode, Louis Gonzalez,

764
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker 2: and my starting pitching Carlos on Brano, Mike Matt Clement,

765
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 2: Sergio Romo, Joe Borowski and Uggi Orbino facing off against

766
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 2: them as team be SARNF catcher is Mike Piazza. Five

767
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 2: games with the Fish. Mike Piazza also had five RBIs.

768
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 2: Batting at first base, he sapped Choi, he stopped Choi

769
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,240
Speaker 2: had an inside the park home run for Yoa Florida

770
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 2: Marlins back at bro Player Stadium.

771
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 7: Another three to two head high.

772
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:40,720
Speaker 2: Here it's deep to center.

773
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:47,720
Speaker 7: Busio bat over his hand, kicks away from him, run

774
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 7: his inadside, gonna be set home.

775
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 3: Here's the relay.

776
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 4: Part of the play.

777
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 3: He supped Choy.

778
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 1: Oh he's not back in Cree. He's a coach now.

779
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. Not not for nothing.

780
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 2: I felt a little bit short changed that he shopped

781
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 2: got sand back to the Dodgers halfway through the season.

782
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 2: I thought like maybe he stopped had a little bit

783
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 2: something more left in the tank when he was with

784
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 2: the Fish. But we got Gy and Momota and Paulo

785
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 2: Duca back and they're in my starting lineup, so I

786
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 2: got nothing to say about that, all right. So tm B,

787
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 2: we got Mike Piazza, he's op Choy, second baseman Neil Walker,

788
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 2: third baseman, Todd Zeal, shortstop Hector Luna, outfielder Curtis Granderson,

789
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 2: outfielder Jack Jones, and outfielder Mulin's broadcaster Todd hollins Worth.

790
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 3: Well, a real pretty swing from the young man.

791
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 2: We got pinch hitters on decking the pinch. We got

792
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 2: will Coy Darrow, and we got Darren Dalton that starting pitching,

793
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 2: we have Andrew kasher A, Randy Woolf and then Edwin

794
00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 2: Jackson relief pitcher. We got Fernando Platono our Rodney. We

795
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 2: got a left handed picture of Valario del Santo's who

796
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 2: the hell remembers Valerio Dilo Santos because I remember boy

797
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 2: and he only lasted year one season And the closing

798
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 2: picture for TV Tai Jones, let's do it.

799
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you checked pretty much all the boxes that I

800
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 1: was gonna go to. I want to shout out Javier Vasquez,

801
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: who was really good that one season.

802
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 2: That we can make a whole Puerto Rican lineup. Yo,

803
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 2: haavey Bosquez Delgado. Oh man, they were so it was

804
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 2: so good. And I'm gonna keep Yadel Robera out of

805
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 2: that lineup.

806
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 3: That's how good it.

807
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: Is, Yadi Vera. Yeah. And what was the other one, Yeah,

808
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: Edison Volcaez. No hitter of course came down with Tommy

809
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: John surgery shortly after that.

810
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 2: Edison Volcuez, you couldn't never ever. The only guy that

811
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 2: could ever told me that he was going to throw

812
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 2: a freak and no hitter was Jeffrey Lawyer. That's the

813
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 2: only guy that I signed them to it, because you know,

814
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Lower was the topic guy. We'd be like, yo,

815
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 2: I just signed John Buck You're welcome. He wouldn't say

816
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 2: anything to nobody, so don't put it past him and

817
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 2: be like, yeah, bocuz no hitter sign got him.

818
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a crazy performance. In hindsight, I was

819
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 1: looking back on it not that long ago, for we're

820
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,240
Speaker 1: doing our whole Games of the Decade series on fish strips,

821
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: and like, it wasn't just a no hitter, like not, Oh,

822
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 1: no hitters are created equal. They're the aj Burnett no

823
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 1: hitters where he's just like getting through it. He's on

824
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,919
Speaker 1: fumes the whole time and flirting with disaster every step

825
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: of the way. And then there's Volcz Like of all

826
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 1: the no hitters in Marlin's history, that one was probably

827
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: the most dominant one. He faced the minimum number of

828
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 1: batters when he put it runner on. He would just

829
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: get a double play to get him out, and he

830
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: got through it quickly, and that was it was really

831
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,720
Speaker 1: the last great game threw in his whole career. Buddy

832
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: had a long career, and it was it was cool afterwards.

833
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: That was a game that postgame he dedicated it to

834
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: Jose Fernandez. It was really sweet gesture. And yeah, they

835
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 1: have a lot of guys, like a lot of these

836
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: one and done guys that we didn't mention where when

837
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: they take a chance on the veteran near the end

838
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 1: of their career and you don't know how much they

839
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: have left in the tank. Of course, last year example,

840
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: as you mentioned Neil Walker, also Curtis Granderson, where he

841
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 1: just can't say enough about all the intangibles that he

842
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 1: has in the great perspective, little things that you do,

843
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: like as a veteran to come in to that team

844
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: in a situation where they weren't contending, but still like

845
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:46,919
Speaker 1: helped them along and still have a lasting impression even

846
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: if it doesn't translate into much success. So so with

847
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: a lot of those one year guys that like don't

848
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: even work out, like in the traditional sense, don't even

849
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: produce for you, there's still like the small victories and

850
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: there's still the memories that they make. Yeah, and then

851
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: and the best example of all that of course made

852
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,439
Speaker 1: it on your team was Sergio Romo, where he didn't

853
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: even spend one season. It wasn't even a full season,

854
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: it was like two thirds of a season. And the

855
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: kind of impression that he left on everybody, and that

856
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: he that he continues as a guy that's now bounced

857
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: around a few different teams. The kind of relationship that

858
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: he was able to build with the Marlins fans and

859
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: his teammates in that short amount of time, and of

860
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 1: course the fact that he was actually successful and they

861
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: were able to secure a trade that was like the

862
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 1: best for everybody involved. It was something that helped the

863
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: Marlins set themselves up for the future with the prospect

864
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 1: and Leywin Diaz, but also move along Sergio Romo to

865
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: his next step. You don't need everybody to stay here

866
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 1: for a long time. It's it's just it's a combination

867
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: of guys at different phases of their careers. They have

868
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 1: different roles that stick.

869
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 2: Out absolutely absolutely, each and one of these guys are

870
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 2: stepping stones into the next body Fish. It was crazy

871
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,839
Speaker 2: the top of list I was able to come together with.

872
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 2: But I mean, if you look at the names in

873
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 2: franchise history, you'll be like, wow, I'll start I'll start

874
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 2: going down the list of these guys' names, and I'm

875
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 2: sure that every name that I say with every fan

876
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 2: out there, there's gonna be some type of connection. I

877
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 2: got a Miguel Batista starting pitcher from ninety six. I

878
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 2: got a Joe Borowski of Mike Cameron, Homer Bush, Kika Klero,

879
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:32,760
Speaker 2: Craig Breslo, Andrew Kashner, Wilkin Castillo, he'sa Troy, Matt Clement,

880
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 2: Will Kodero, Darren Dalton, v Larry Devil, Santos, My Matt Diez,

881
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 2: Matt Diez, Junior, Pheleagues, Jeff Frank, Core Ross Glode, Luis Gonzalez,

882
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 2: Curtis Granderson, Mark Hendrickson, Key Key Hernandez, Trevor Hoffman, Todd Hollinsworth,

883
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 2: Edwin Jackson, Chris Johnson, Nick Johnson, Jack Jones, Todd Jones,

884
00:49:55,160 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 2: Jorge Julio, Bio Young Kin, Casey Kachman, Billy Kotch, Carlos Aka,

885
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 2: El Cabayo, John maber, he Hected, Carls Marball, Darren Oliver,

886
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 2: Mike Piazza, Scott Poley, sans A Toy, Chad Qualls, Mark Redman,

887
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 2: Tim Rains for Another, Rodney Sergio, Romo, ugi Or Beino, Larva, Loone,

888
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:20,479
Speaker 2: Neil Walker, Radby, Wolf Vancewarley, Carlos Sombrano, and Todd zial

889
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen, those are your one year Miami Marlins.

890
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: In alphabetical order, an alphabetic order.

891
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 3: Imagine having that conversation.

892
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 2: Everybody was a big fan, uh the Chicago Bulls. The

893
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 2: last dance.

894
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 3: Imagine being Jerry.

895
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 2: Krowton Town everybody in that locker room, Yo, this ain't

896
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:39,879
Speaker 2: your last dance.

897
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 3: It is your only dance.

898
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: Exactly. And one other thing I wanted to mention before

899
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: we get out of here was a surprise that we

900
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 1: got from a he's a writer. He's a graphic designer

901
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: that works with our sister site. He covers the Florida

902
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: Panthers usually, but he's a Marlins fan Francisco or Porta

903
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: and you put together this post on the site. That

904
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: was a really nice surprise because it's something that enters

905
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: a lot of our minds, even if we don't focus

906
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: on too much. Of course, we had our fist Drives

907
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame exercise because seeing this void where for

908
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: all the praise that we give to the new ownership group,

909
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,479
Speaker 1: they haven't really embraced the history of the team that much.

910
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 1: You walk through Marlins Parking, you feel that it's a

911
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 1: team that's trying to start anew and not one that's

912
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 1: necessarily linked up with what they've accomplished in the past.

913
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: But Francisco is like with a lot of us, where

914
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 1: you like seize this opportunity to blend those together a

915
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: little bit more and embrace what the team has done

916
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 1: in the past. And with his graphic design skills, we

917
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: put together like some concepts about retiring key numbers in

918
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 1: franchise history and also recognize on the accomplishments that some

919
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: of these teams have had, the obvious World Series titles,

920
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,280
Speaker 1: winning the wild Card on the way to those World

921
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: Series in ninety seven and three, and like putting them

922
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 1: up on different parts of the ballpark where if you

923
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 1: look around the rest of Major League Baseball, there are

924
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: teams with a lot less history than the marlins'vd or

925
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: and it least in terms of the championships, and yet

926
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: they're the ones that recognize the importance that those teams

927
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: have had in the history of those fans. So that's

928
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 1: something that encourage people to check out. I'm keeping it

929
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 1: on the front page of the website for a few days.

930
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: I'm so proud of what he did here, So it's

931
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: gonna be right on front center on fishtrips dot Com

932
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: with Francisco's renditions of hanging some really big banners in

933
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,399
Speaker 1: the ballpark for the first time, things that you'd actually

934
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: be able to see on TV broadcasts, and hopefully when

935
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: fans return to the ballpark, whether that's at the end

936
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: in late twenty twenty or probably more likely in twenty

937
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: twenty one, whatever, fans get back in there being able

938
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: to soak up all the history and really get a

939
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 1: feel for what the Marlins have been, and not just

940
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: in the franchise's history as a major league team, but

941
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this, but we've had

942
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 1: teams in Miami going back even further than that. They

943
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,320
Speaker 1: the minor league team in Miami going back all the

944
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 1: way to the fifties that also called themselves the Marlins,

945
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: and trying to incorporate all that into what Miami Baseball

946
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: is today. So I know that's an important thing to

947
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: you and to a lot of other fans to do

948
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 1: a better job of recognizing where Miami Baseball has been

949
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 1: in addition to where it's going, just where it's been

950
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: and some of the people that have been a part

951
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: of making it special.

952
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 8: Yeah, man, I mean, in particular, I love how the

953
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 8: Martins moving to the Orange Bowl. I'm not a bit

954
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 8: a particular big fan how they took over the colored

955
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 8: orange and they got rid of the till, but I

956
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 8: love how they they took it upon themselves to make

957
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 8: their own colors in the Miami Red and to come

958
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 8: into blue, and I respect them and everything else that

959
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 8: they've been doing.

960
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:55,320
Speaker 3: Moving forward.

961
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: For Alex Cantreras from Eli Sussman Lace Late Night with

962
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: the Fish recording of Fish Bites in the middle of

963
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: a crazy time and a developing situation at the major

964
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,720
Speaker 1: league level in terms of pointing together this twenty twenty season,

965
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: So as soon as there's some more clarity about that season,

966
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: we're gonna link up again and bring in some of

967
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: our other buddies here on the staff to discuss it.

968
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: Because it's gonna be a crazy summer one way or

969
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: the other, and unprecedented one for sure, and we're excited

970
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: to break it all down for you guys. So thank

971
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: you all for listening once again, check us all out

972
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: on fish Drives across social media, and we'll keep you

973
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: updated on this evolving situation. Go Fish