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Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin was good, brother, what's up, Bro? I appreciate

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you pulling up, man, because what a year

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Speaker 3: Terry, we appreciate your honesty and vulnerability.

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Speaker 3: And in closing, we still got a season, we still

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Speaker 2: Just give a message to the fans not only to

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Speaker 1: going to be four or five quarters where we got

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Speaker 1: to go out there and take this game like it's

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Speaker 1: not gonna be given to us at all. But I

439
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Speaker 1: think we got to play a lot better complimentary football.

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Speaker 1: And so that's our goal this week at first, take

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Speaker 1: care of the football, create turnovers, and play complimentary football.

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Speaker 1: That means scoring in the red zone for on offense, defense,

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Speaker 1: creating some three and out situations, and flipping the field

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Speaker 1: if you're on special teams you know what I mean,

445
00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,879
Speaker 1: really playing like a downhill style of football. But it's

446
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Speaker 1: going to start with the physicality and I think we

447
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Speaker 1: all know that. So I think that's why today you

448
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Speaker 1: know what I mean, we're late in December, or we're

449
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Speaker 1: in December and we're full paths ready to go today.

450
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean, because that's the type of

451
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Speaker 1: football that it takes to have success in the NCS.

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Speaker 2: Terry, we appreciate you, Bro. Congratulations on all your success.

453
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Speaker 2: Congratuations are making it back on that field. Man. We're

454
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Speaker 2: so happy to have you and a leader like you,

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Speaker 2: and hope you enjoyed your first time on Next Man Up.

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Speaker 2: And don't be strange, it wasn't too bad. I appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: Commands family, our next man up, our wide receiver one,

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Speaker 2: and our leader of this offense.

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Speaker 3: Terry McCain, appreciate your time.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you, Bro.

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Speaker 3: Now, far next man up.

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Speaker 2: We have a legend that joined us last season, but

490
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Speaker 2: it's coming back. For more, has been doing more media

491
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Speaker 2: stuff with us and is one of the best Washington

492
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Speaker 2: wide receivers to ever grace the field.

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Speaker 3: Welcoming in my guy, Gary Clark. Gary, how you doing, brother?

494
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Speaker 4: What's up? B see what's happening? Man?

495
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Speaker 3: Hey man, I'm happy for your time. Man. I appreciate you. Man.

496
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Speaker 2: You know, we have a current big name wide receiver

497
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Speaker 2: on the show, so I said I had to match

498
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Speaker 2: him with the best we had available, man, and that

499
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Speaker 2: is you, Gary Clark. Man like Gary Terry that it's

500
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Speaker 2: a beautiful combination. And I personally know how much you

501
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Speaker 2: value and appreciate what Terry does.

502
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Speaker 3: On that field.

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Speaker 4: Oh one, I'm so glad to see that he's back

504
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,680
Speaker 4: and back out playing soon. As soon as he came

505
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Speaker 4: back onto the field, he made an immediate and immediate,

506
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 4: you know, impression on the team, showing that you know,

507
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,880
Speaker 4: when Terry's on the field, good things happen. So I'm

508
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 4: glad to see that he's back in action. And I

509
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 4: only wish he could he would have been able to

510
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Speaker 4: come back soon.

511
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Speaker 2: And I feel like you have a different appreciation of

512
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Speaker 2: everything Terry has been through this year, from the contract

513
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Speaker 2: negotiations to getting back on the field, from dealing with injuries,

514
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Speaker 2: from coming back again. You have been in the shoots,

515
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 2: you have done gone through all of those things and more.

516
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Speaker 2: What was it like watching Terry navigate through all of this,

517
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 2: Because again, he's not just a great man on the field,

518
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,640
Speaker 2: he's clearly a great man off the field as well.

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Speaker 4: This is so true what I loved about Terry. There's

520
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Speaker 4: a lot of guys who I don't want to say

521
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 4: milk their injury, but someone's go ahead and say milk

522
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Speaker 4: their injury. And Terry's not that guy. You know, Terry

523
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Speaker 4: came back as soon as he can humanly possible for

524
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Speaker 4: him to come back. He came back and played. Obviously,

525
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 4: he has a strong pain threshold that allows him to

526
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Speaker 4: do those things. And what I love about the guy

527
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 4: is he understands the game of football. He understands his

528
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,640
Speaker 4: position extremely well. Again, I'll go on the records say

529
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Speaker 4: and I think he's one of the top five receivers

530
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Speaker 4: in the National Football League without a doubt, and I

531
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Speaker 4: don't care about the other four be quite honestly. I mean,

532
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:55,199
Speaker 4: he goes out and he plays hard, great leadership, He

533
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Speaker 4: has all the quality that you won't and your captain

534
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Speaker 4: on a football team.

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Speaker 3: And you would know that.

536
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Speaker 2: I look at Washington and all the legends and the

537
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Speaker 2: people that are currently here too. This is one of

538
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Speaker 2: them places where some of the best wide receivers have

539
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 2: rocked the Bergney and gold. They've played for us, and

540
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Speaker 2: I want to take it back a little bit because

541
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Speaker 2: we haven't got a chance to talk about it, at

542
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Speaker 2: least not on this platform. Was Art Monk's jersey retirement,

543
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Speaker 2: because to me, it was so special to see him

544
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Speaker 2: honor that way. But it was even more special to

545
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Speaker 2: see the posse back together.

546
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Speaker 3: You are.

547
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Speaker 2: Monk and Ricky Sanders and y'all took the time to

548
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Speaker 2: Grace's with y'all presence on Game Day Live, which to me,

549
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Speaker 2: all the things I've gotten to do in my career,

550
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Speaker 2: being to sit there with y'all and do that interview

551
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Speaker 2: with y'all on Game Day Live phenomenal.

552
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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: I'll never forget it. It's not something I take for granted,

554
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Speaker 2: especially because I don't remember the last time I've seen

555
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Speaker 2: all three of you guys do an interview in that regard,

556
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Speaker 2: Do you remember the last time y'all three had gotten

557
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Speaker 2: together like that and dine an interview like that.

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Speaker 4: It's been a long long time, to be quite honest.

559
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Speaker 4: I mean we probably have done it since we all retired,

560
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Speaker 4: but I can't tell you when long ago it must

561
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 4: have happened for us at all three be in the

562
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,239
Speaker 4: same room. But it was a great It was a

563
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 4: great weekend for Art Monks. So glad to see that,

564
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 4: you know, what we all knew should happen finally happened

565
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Speaker 4: under this administration. So it was a great It was

566
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Speaker 4: a great opportunity for us to get back and personally

567
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Speaker 4: showcase to Art how much we how much we love him,

568
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Speaker 4: how much we it's great to be able to be

569
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Speaker 4: on the field with him at the same time. How

570
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Speaker 4: much pressure he took off of myself and Ricky and

571
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Speaker 4: hopefully we took pressure off of him as well that

572
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Speaker 4: came to playing that position a receiver. And it was

573
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Speaker 4: just a great weekend. It was just a great weekend.

574
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Speaker 4: His family was there. It was just a great time.

575
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Speaker 4: And the fans came out, you know, the night before,

576
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Speaker 4: fans came out and celebrated, you know, at the MGM. So,

577
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Speaker 4: I mean, it was it was quite It was quite

578
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Speaker 4: the weekend. You know, We've been grateful to got to win,

579
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Speaker 4: of course I'd have made it spectacular, but uh, since

580
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Speaker 4: we didn't get a win, it still made the weekend

581
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Speaker 4: spectacle because we had art marketing the.

582
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Speaker 2: House and it It's wild to even think that y'all

583
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Speaker 2: had not been together in those regards, like doing those

584
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Speaker 2: interviews and things like that, because from my vantage point,

585
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 2: when I looked at y'all and watched y'all, I said, Oh,

586
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Speaker 2: here's that chemistry they had on the field.

587
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Speaker 3: This is the trio right here.

588
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Speaker 2: It felt like when I'm watching you guys, like that

589
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 2: chemistry is just never going anywhere. Does it feel like

590
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Speaker 2: that sometimes for you being in in those moments where

591
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 2: you look to your right, you look to your left,

592
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Speaker 2: and you got your boys right there like it was back.

593
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Speaker 3: In the day.

594
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like everything Tim's always just kind of fall

595
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Speaker 4: back into place, you know, Art being quiet, smiling, the

596
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 4: jugged leader, me doing a majority of the talking. That's

597
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 4: what I did at the time, and Ricky Sanders with

598
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 4: his spectacular self just being there to showcase to Art

599
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 4: and to those around for that weekend how special the

600
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Speaker 4: posse really was. I mean, to this day, and this

601
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 4: is not don't be bluntly honest, everybody knows. I'm a

602
00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 4: bluntly honest person. There's no trio that's been just haven't

603
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 4: been there yet. It It just hasn't. Some great trios

604
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 4: out there, don't get me wrong, some great players out there,

605
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,719
Speaker 4: but nothing to the ability of what three of us

606
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 4: was able to do on the football field. I mean,

607
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 4: at any given time, one of us was going to

608
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 4: be open. It's just what it was. Our quarterback always

609
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 4: had an option, always had an option.

610
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Speaker 2: And I think that when you look at the way

611
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 2: the game's changed today, I don't know if you'll ever

612
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 2: see a trio like that, at least not for an

613
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Speaker 2: extended period of time, because guys is out here getting

614
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 2: their money, Gods is out here getting bags. They want

615
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 2: to be the top paid wide receiver. It is so

616
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 2: hard to find that, right, Like you look at the

617
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 2: Bengals and they got T Higgins and Jamar Chase, but

618
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 2: they weren't able to keep the trio going. Man, do

619
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Speaker 2: you think they'll ever be wide receiver trios like that? Again,

620
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Speaker 2: with such a changing and ever evolving game, Because I

621
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 2: know you stay very very closely tapped into the game.

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Speaker 4: Still, I think it could be. I think it all happens.

623
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Speaker 4: It all depends on the head coach, would be quite honest,

624
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 4: I think the head coach has a lot to do

625
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 4: with this. When Joe was here, three of us stayed together.

626
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 4: When Joe left, the three of us broke up. I mean,

627
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 4: that's kind of how it was. I mean, and don't

628
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 4: get me wrong. All NFL players they deserve to have

629
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 4: the best salary they can have, the most that they

630
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 4: can get. But we al was willing to take a

631
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 4: cut and pay when we was playing together. It's just

632
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 4: so to make sure that all three of us was

633
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 4: able to generate revenue for one another. And we all

634
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 4: three like myself and Ricky, you know, we just kind

635
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 4: of aligned ourself because we wanted to play together and

636
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 4: we wanted to play for Joe. It came down and

637
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 4: we really wanted to play for Joe, and we wanted

638
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 4: to win more Super Bowls and we knew that we

639
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 4: can't way we could do that is yet the three

640
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 4: of us stayed together as well because by the time,

641
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,959
Speaker 4: by the end of our careers in Washington, the passing

642
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 4: game was first a running game, a second and the

643
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 4: posse was the first course meal. Just what it was.

644
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 4: You know, you couldn't. I mean, it's hard to believe it.

645
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 4: You can't single us. It's just you just couldn't.

646
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 3: You was dead.

647
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 4: If you try to, one of us will be open.

648
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 4: You know, like when you got receivers who take it

649
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 4: as an insult if you don't at least double team them,

650
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 4: you take it as an insult. That tells you how

651
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 4: good you're record receiving core is because they just if

652
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 4: you double Art, don't double me. I'm like, are you idiots?

653
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 4: And if you double me and don't double Art, Art's like,

654
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 4: what are your idiots? He double us and don't double Ricky.

655
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 4: Ricky's like, in a nice way, why would you do that?

656
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 4: He's not going to call you an idiot because Ricky

657
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 4: is just not that way. But but I mean, celebrating

658
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 4: Art Monk is always a great thing. I'm so glad

659
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 4: that he finally had his jersey officially retired. I mean,

660
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 4: no one's really wore his jersey since he since he

661
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 4: stopped playing. But the habit officially retired was a big

662
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 4: deal and it's well deserved, and I'm glad he was

663
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 4: able to have that happen to him while he's still

664
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 4: here with us. That's that's always great to get your

665
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 4: accolades in why you're still with us. You know, it's

666
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 4: great to get it no matter what. But any accolade

667
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 4: I get, I want to be breathing. Why to enjoy it?

668
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 4: I don't give you. I'll be fine and beginning after

669
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 4: I've passed, but I would rather have it while I'm

670
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 4: still breathing. And it's nice to see Ark Monk got

671
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 4: to add it while he's still here with us.

672
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 2: Nice to have your flowers when you're still around to

673
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 2: smell it. And I got to run back a little

674
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 2: bit because you said something I thought was very interesting.

675
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 2: I want you to elaborate on it, because you said

676
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 2: it was about the coach. You said, what Coach Gibbs

677
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 2: was gone? We were gone, we broke. What about Coach Gibbs?

678
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 2: What about the change when he does leave? What affected

679
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 2: y'all to make it like that? Because I think that

680
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 2: that's such a great perception of what happened with you all.

681
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 2: And I love when I talk to the legends, and

682
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 2: especially the way that they herald Coach Gibbs and the

683
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 2: things that they talk about and the things they give

684
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 2: them credit for. I find it very interesting that you

685
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 2: gave him credit for keeping you guys together.

686
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 4: I mean just the respect we all had for Joe.

687
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 4: You know what, when you see a person who understand

688
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 4: players personality, and you can't treat everybody the same because

689
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 4: we're all different players. Everybody has a different type of personality.

690
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 4: He understood our personality. He knew there are certain things

691
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 4: he could say to me that he could not say

692
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 4: to Art or Ricky, certain things he could say to

693
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 4: Art that he could not say to me. He knew

694
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 4: how to motivate each each one of us in a

695
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 4: different way. And that's why we were so such a

696
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 4: good team all those years. Quite honestly. He understood how

697
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 4: to let us manage the strategies that he gave us

698
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 4: and let us tweak them to make them game ready.

699
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 4: And anytime you have a person who's willing to at

700
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 4: the time he's at the time he was considered the

701
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 4: best coach in the NFL, he just was considered the

702
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 4: best coach in the NFL. And I have somebody who's

703
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 4: willing to allow players to tweak their strategy because he

704
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 4: knows each player's position, they play it a certain way.

705
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 4: That's huge, because you know, football is not something that

706
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 4: you can just put into a whole doesn't fit that way.

707
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 4: It doesn't fit that way. Everybody's not the same player,

708
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 4: you know. That's why when Terry's on the field, you

709
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 4: get a different feeling when he's on the field because

710
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 4: he's a different vibe. I'm not saying that the next

711
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 4: guy's not as good or bad as Terry. I'm saying

712
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:06,959
Speaker 4: it's just different vibe that Terry has when he's on

713
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 4: the field. There's certain things that you can expect Terry

714
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 4: to do that automatically he does. Soon as he came back.

715
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 4: Automatically he did what we see him do all the

716
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 4: time that he's on the field. He brings a type

717
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 4: of emotion and passion to the game that players thrive to.

718
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 4: When Terry plays good, the team plays good, you know.

719
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 4: And the same thing when the posse played well, nine

720
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 4: out of ten times we all played well, that's a win.

721
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 4: That's a w coming into the column just what it was,

722
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 4: you know, and having a coach who understood that, who

723
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 4: understood not to break us up, understood that this is

724
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 4: what we're going to do. And and as soon as

725
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 4: they try to break us up.

726
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 3: I left.

727
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 4: When I went to Arizona, you know, as soon as

728
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 4: they told me, you know, Art was not going to

729
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 4: be the starting receiver. And nothing against Desmond. Desmond's a

730
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 4: good guy, good person, great analysts and all of that.

731
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 4: But he ain't us. Never was just not just what

732
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 4: it is. I mean, great return guy. I mean they

733
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 4: shouldn't use him as a return guy. Then you got

734
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 4: to be missed. But you're gonna do that. He would

735
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 4: have been a much better player on a different team.

736
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 4: He'd have been a much better player on a different

737
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 4: team because he wouldn't have to set. He would have

738
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 4: got to play immediately. He didn't get to play immediately

739
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 4: with us, which could have been a good thing for

740
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 4: him if you take back and study us while you're

741
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 4: waiting to play. Now, A lot of players don't do that,

742
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 4: especially when he's a first round pick. When we get it,

743
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 4: you know, one of the top picks in the draft.

744
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't get me wrong, I get it.

745
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 4: But when I heard that, you know, leave the posse alone,

746
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 4: you go into the season. In other history, well, we'll

747
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 4: we'll bow out when it's time to bow because that's

748
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 4: that way. If we're not balling, take me out the game.

749
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 4: I don't have a problem with it. We're still balling though,

750
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 4: So leave us alone. Go work with something else, Go

751
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 4: go talk to some other people, but leave those three

752
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 4: receivers alone because that slot was done. And you saw

753
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 4: soon as soon as all left too went to Phoenix,

754
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 4: there was never the same again. I mean, quite honestly,

755
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 4: we haven't had We've had some good receivers in Washington

756
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 4: since we left, but with Terry, you have a great

757
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 4: receiver in Washington since we left, just same type of player.

758
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 4: And Kinnor got a little bit of all three of

759
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 4: us in one. So I hope that Terry next year,

760
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 4: Terry will be back fully healthy, ready to go and

761
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 4: get it done, and you know, the commanders be back

762
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 4: in a hunt.

763
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 2: I love for hearing you talk about this because now

764
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 2: I'm wondering if you or any of the possive, if

765
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 2: y'all have ever even talked about it.

766
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 3: Do you guys feel like y'all had more to do together?

767
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 2: Do you feel like you were able to finish your

768
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 2: plate with what the three of you were able to

769
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 2: do because of the way that you ended up having

770
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 2: to go to Phoenix and the way that things played.

771
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 4: Out, Yeah, I mean, I mean it would have been

772
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 4: interesting to see if we all would have been able

773
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 4: to stay together, because literally, like after I left and

774
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 4: went to Phoenix, Ricky and Art was together one more

775
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 4: year and then that kind of split up. I think

776
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 4: Art went somewhere, maybe I don't know when, to the

777
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 4: jests Philadelphia, Ricky came to like Miami or Atlanta, I

778
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 4: mean something like that, and we all just we all

779
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,720
Speaker 4: just kind of scattered. And their offense, honestly, they hadn't

780
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 4: been the same until last year in terms of being

781
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 4: a receiving corps that was going to strike fear into

782
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 4: your hearts, you know. And and I think the commanders

783
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 4: will get that again because they got some They had

784
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 4: some really good receivers that they have on the team

785
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 4: this year. I think those receivers have the possibility of

786
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 4: becoming great receivers as long as they put in the work.

787
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 4: But I know with Terry, Terry will get those guys

788
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 4: together and make sure that they do put in the

789
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 4: work so they do become a great receiving corps, not

790
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,240
Speaker 4: just a good receiving corps where they are right now.

791
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 2: How hard is it to deal with the year like

792
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 2: this because you mentioned last year's offense and we knew

793
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 2: what that that was, that was dynamic. It was incredible,

794
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 2: magical moment after matage.

795
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 4: I don't know, hmmm, that really happened to me in Washington.

796
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 4: I don't, I don't. I don't know, like I mean,

797
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 4: I think, don't get me wrong. We have some seasons

798
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 4: where we didn't play that well. We have season. I

799
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 4: think we had a season where went seven to nine

800
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 4: or eight and eight, something like that. I just think

801
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 4: a lot of the players we just didn't stand for it.

802
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 4: I mean, we just sitting, you know. And I don't,

803
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 4: I don't I want, I don't want to be that

804
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 4: guy who judges other players or other other other other

805
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 4: teams of the Burgundy and Gold. But you know, the

806
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 4: only thing that I would wish that I that some

807
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 4: of the guys wouldn't do, is after a tremendous loss,

808
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 4: after you just got your butt beat by a team,

809
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 4: whether they're better than your teeth or not better than you.

810
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't get the hugging. And I don't

811
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 4: I don't get that especially. I mean, I don't. If

812
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 4: I had a season like this, I'm not hugging nobody.

813
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 4: There should be some type of disruption. There should be

814
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:05,280
Speaker 4: some type of conflict that you see happen because you're losing,

815
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 4: you're supposed to be mad. There's supposed to be some

816
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 4: fighting on the sidelines. There's supposed to be some fighting

817
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 4: a practice, trying to figure out what are we doing wrong,

818
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 4: to help to motivate, because when you fight your brother,

819
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 4: it's out of love. For the most part, you're trying

820
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 4: to get something out of them. You're trying to get

821
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 4: something out of them, or trying to get something out

822
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 4: of me. When you know, I got yelled at when

823
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 4: I played just because my teammates are trying to get

824
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 4: me to play better. I'm not taking it personally, so

825
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 4: I don't want to fight them. I've been like, you

826
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 4: know what, I didn't get my button gear. I'm not

827
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 4: playing the way that I need to play. I'm not

828
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 4: doing my job. So I think next year, going into

829
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 4: the season, as long as everybody's come to an agreement,

830
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 4: we're going to do our job. That's the key, each person,

831
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 4: each teammate. I'm going to do my job to the

832
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 4: best of my ability. You'll see a different commander's team

833
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 4: and you'll see them back what they was like last year,

834
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 4: the year before, when they was making a run. The

835
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 4: key is you want to make a run at the

836
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 4: super Bowl every year, a run at it. So that

837
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 4: means you want to get into the playoffs all the time.

838
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 4: You know, you want to get into the playoffs all

839
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 4: the time. Even though I played in Washington, were getting

840
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 4: the playoffs all the time, we missed it. Like I

841
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 4: think three years we didn't get in the playoffs while

842
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 4: I was there. Out of my eight years in Washington,

843
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 4: there was three years we didn't get in. But two

844
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 4: of those years we went ten and six. We should

845
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 4: have got in because ten and six usually gets you in.

846
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 4: Because when we got in on nine and seven in

847
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 4: ninety two out of seven we got in, So we're

848
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 4: still good football teams. And that was just an adjustment

849
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 4: and we didn't get in as that was Joe's transition

850
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 4: in front of a running game to a passing game

851
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 4: where we was past first run second and once we

852
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 4: came past first run second, we're right back in the

853
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 4: playoffs again. It's just an adjustment period that you all

854
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 4: go through, because you could have if something's working, you

855
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 4: could have used it until it don't work anymore as

856
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 4: you should. You could have it, use it and U

857
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 4: school I'm going to fix it if they wrote you know,

858
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 4: but what Joe had the ability to do is once

859
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 4: we found out that it was broke, he fixed it

860
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 4: and we have something. We have a whole new look.

861
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 4: You have a whole new look. It's hard to stop

862
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 4: a whole new look. It's just it. And especially when

863
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 4: you got guys as arrogant as we were, Like, I

864
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 4: need the players to be arrogant. I need to be

865
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 4: arrogant just on the football Field'm not talking about off

866
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 4: the football field. On the football field, you arrogant because

867
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 4: you put in the work, you put in the practice,

868
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 4: you did the things necessary for you to be a

869
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 4: great player. So you can tell you a pont of

870
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 4: what you're gonna do. It ain't nothing you can do

871
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 4: about it. I didn't mind telling on defensive back what

872
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 4: I was gonna do. What are you gonna do? You'll

873
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 4: stop me? No, that's not gonna happen. I like, I

874
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 4: like my chances. Did I get stopped sometimes? Yes? But

875
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 4: if we're gonna go like percentages wise, I'm gonna be

876
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 4: at least seven out of ten. I'll take those odds.

877
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 4: I'm not trust I'd rather be ten out of ten.

878
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 4: But I'll take seven out of ten because I'm one

879
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 4: of those sevens. Is gonna be me scoring a touchdown

880
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 4: on your butt, So at the end of the day,

881
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 4: I'll take it.

882
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 2: He talked about that attitude and pride you carried, right,

883
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 2: But when I look and I talk to all of

884
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 2: you guys, are at Monk, Ricky Sayders, Brian Mitchell, just

885
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 2: name all these guys. All of y'all had that innate confidence, attitude,

886
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 2: hunger to be the best. Do you see that in

887
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 2: today's game, Because when I do talk to y'all, I'm like, man,

888
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 2: this just seems so rare to have so many different

889
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 2: people argue to be the best at their positions have

890
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 2: the same mentality and being on one accurt.

891
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 4: Well, I have you see it on certain teams. You've

892
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 4: seen it on certain teams in the league, like I've

893
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 4: seen Kansas City have it. Kansas City had it for

894
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 4: not so much this year, but again, there's no years

895
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 4: that you're just not going to be the guy. But

896
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 4: for the most part, they've been the guys that they

897
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 4: could count on coming back and coming back and coming back.

898
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 4: When you come back and come back over and over

899
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 4: and again, you got dogs on your team. You gotta

900
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 4: be a dog. I mean, this is not youth league,

901
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 4: is not high school, is not college anymore. You know,

902
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 4: it's different rules now. Like I'm not gonna be a

903
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,439
Speaker 4: gentleman on the field. No, that's not gonna happen. It's

904
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 4: just not you know, if you punch me, I'm gonna

905
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 4: put you back. Well, I'm just gonna punch you to

906
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 4: start with. It's gonna be one or the other. Like,

907
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 4: I'm playing the game to win the football game. And

908
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 4: football was played that way, and when you play it

909
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 4: that way, you tend to win more games. I mean,

910
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 4: it's just what it is you have to have. But

911
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 4: you can only play that way if you've put in

912
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 4: the work to be able to play that way. I mean,

913
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 4: you can only play that way if you put in

914
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 4: the work and the burgundy and go. They have some

915
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,439
Speaker 4: great players on their football team, they really do. It's

916
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 4: just a matter of them figuring out a way to

917
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 4: make sure that they played together. And that's up to

918
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 4: the players. That's one hundred percent up to the players.

919
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 4: Like coach GiB never once had a call a meeting

920
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 4: from us all to come together. The players did it.

921
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 4: We did it ourselves. We held ourselves accountable, and hopefully

922
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 4: the commanders are holding theirselves accountable for what they got

923
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 4: to do because the hasn't been bad, and a lot

924
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 4: of people try to blame. I'm no, because you know

925
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 4: when I do look at it. No, same coaches, same

926
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 4: coaching strategy. You know, if you don't like to play,

927
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 4: that's called, you change it. If you don't like the defense,

928
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,760
Speaker 4: that call, you change it. Because we have that ability

929
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 4: to do them. They give us the ability to do

930
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 4: those things. That's called being a football player. It's being

931
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 4: called and be like, Okay, we're going to make sure

932
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 4: that we run the right play because we're the players,

933
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 4: We're the people on the field. We're there instantly. We

934
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 4: know we're seeing what they don't see upstairs. Yet they

935
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 4: can do best they can, but we see it first.

936
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 4: So if I don't do my job and let the

937
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 4: quarterback know, hey, by the way, I can run this

938
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 4: route to get open on this guy because this is

939
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 4: what he's weakend. And I thought I'm seeing it in

940
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 4: the game, I'm not seeing it. Just throw me the ball.

941
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 4: I'm not telling you to do that. What I'm saying

942
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 4: is over the first quarter, I've seen what this guy's doing.

943
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 4: This is where he's weak at. So this is where

944
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 4: you need to throw me the rock too, you know,

945
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 4: And everybody on our team would do that at the

946
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 4: end of the day and unselfishly or think Ricky Sanders

947
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 4: was having a great game. I'm me and Areta told

948
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 4: her be like, say, Slick, we're going to take the

949
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 4: pressure off of you, so you can continue to kill

950
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 4: this guy. Whoever they put on you, you were killing him,

951
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 4: so continue to kill him so we get this win,

952
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 4: you know, because you want to be the guy. But

953
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 4: she also want to win first. Anytime we won a

954
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 4: football game you had, we had no problem celebrating that together.

955
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 3: None.

956
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 4: The only time you ever seen Nivers get upset is

957
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 4: if we lost a football game and then we felt

958
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 4: like we weren't utilized the way that we should have

959
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 4: been utilized. But anytime we won, nobody cared about any other.

960
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 4: I didn't care about our status. Art didn't care about

961
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 4: my stats. Ricky didn't care about his Ricky never cared

962
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 4: about his stats. Ricky, Ricky is just a great guy

963
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 4: all the way around. But if we lost and you

964
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 4: didn't give us a rock, we had a problem. Man,

965
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 4: THO was gonna be a complaint, but typically we tend

966
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 4: to get the game to get the block the next week,

967
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:09,479
Speaker 4: so it's always good.

968
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 2: Hey, Gary, That's why I appreciate your opinion so much

969
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 2: and why I've enjoyed being able to do these game

970
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 2: day preview shows that we've been able to do this

971
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 2: season and seeing you get more into the fold with

972
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 2: the media and talking about the team, because it's one

973
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: thing for us to talk about it, but you won

974
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 2: the Super Bowls. You were one of the best to

975
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 2: ever do it. You played with some of the best

976
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 2: to ever do it. So I so appreciate your vantage

977
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 2: point and I hope you've been enjoying it too.

978
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 3: Man.

979
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 2: Have you enjoyed getting to do our game day preview

980
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 2: shows when you do every home game from DC Prime?

981
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 2: Have you enjoyed being able to put your analyst hat

982
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 2: back on and break down the game and look at

983
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 2: this game, especially with the way that the team has

984
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 2: evolved and changed.

985
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 4: What I really love about it is the people that

986
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 4: I get to do it with that allows me. It's

987
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 4: just like when I played, Like, the best thing about

988
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 4: football is your teammates. Always has been that way. The

989
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 4: best thing about host football cap it's my teammates and

990
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 4: a new teammates like yourself that I had a chance

991
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 4: to work with. Now, it's all about your teammates that

992
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 4: make something exciting to do. For example, if we didn't

993
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 4: like each other on the show, we would not want

994
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 4: to go do that show. But we do like each

995
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 4: other on the show. We love the Hostyle, We love

996
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 4: everybody who puts us together, from the people behind the

997
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 4: scenes to the people in front of the mic, like yourself.

998
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just a great team that you guys have,

999
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 4: and that's why it's enjoyable for me to do it.

1000
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 4: I mean, because I love the people that are there.

1001
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 4: And the food's pretty good too.

1002
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 2: Hey man, we eat good. And I'm grateful to just

1003
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 2: be a part of the team. Man, Grateful y'all allow

1004
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 2: me to be a part of it.

1005
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 3: And we kick it.

1006
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 2: Man, we have a good time there. So command this

1007
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 2: face if you haven't pulled up yet for our DC

1008
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 2: Prime game Day preview shows. That is every week.

1009
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 3: Of a home game.

1010
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 2: We only have one left, Gary, which makes me sad,

1011
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 2: but I have a feeling they're gonna let us run

1012
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,479
Speaker 2: it back and maybe do it every week next year.

1013
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 3: Gary. We appreciation so much. We would it would? Man,

1014
00:44:58,960 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 3: That is good.

1015
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 4: You know it wasn't it.

1016
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 3: We were good luck for a little bit.

1017
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 4: You could go on.

1018
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 3: Gary, We appreciate your time so much.

1019
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 2: Man, thank you for always being willing to pull up

1020
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 2: and Man, can't wait to see you again.

1021
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 3: Gary.

1022
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 2: We appreciate your insight. Commander Family, our Next Man Up

1023
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 2: Washington legend, one of the best ever. Do it my god,

1024
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 2: Gary Clark, appreciate you.

1025
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 4: Brother. Thank you, brother. Have a good one now you too.

1026
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,680
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