1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in. It is the Tuesday edition 3 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: of The Clay Travison Buck Sexton Show, and we are 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: tap dancing a little bit after a monster win that 5 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: came down at the end of yesterday show. Elon Musk 6 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: has officially bought Twitter, and almost immediately Buck and I 7 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: have seen our overall follower counts skyrocket up by over 8 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: ten thousand each. And you may not think that's a 9 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: very big deal, but both of us see this as 10 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: a fairly consequential outcome that is unlikely to be occurring 11 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: in a world where Elon Musk hasn't bought Twitter. We're 12 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: going to dive into the overall importance of what Elon 13 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 1: Musk represents here. Also federal judge saying that Title forty 14 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: two cannot be ended on May twenty third. We will 15 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: discuss some of that as the border crisis continues to 16 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: reach a crescendo. Will also continue to discuss Biden's falling 17 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: poll numbers and what they may represent. We've got a 18 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: couple of great guests, Douglas Murray and Miranda Divine going 19 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 1: to be with us in the third hour. But right 20 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: off the top here thesis statement from me. I really 21 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: believe that Elon Musk buying Twitter is the most significant 22 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: thing that has occurred from a First Amendment perspective in 23 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: the twenty first century. I believe it is going to 24 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: change things in a seismic way in terms of our discussion, 25 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: in terms of the power that Facebook and Instagram and 26 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: TikTok and YouTube and all of these different platforms, Google, Apple, 27 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: all of them are now going to have of some 28 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: eyesight on the choices that they are making because I 29 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: believe Elon Musk is going to publicize a lot of 30 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: the internal data at Twitter, which will give us optics 31 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: on many other sites as it pertains to their algorithms. 32 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: But let's start here, buck, When was the last time 33 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: that you added over ten thousand Twitter followers in a day? 34 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: Has it ever happened that you can remember in the 35 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: time that you've been on too, It would have to 36 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: be back in the day of Trump retweets. So we're 37 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: going back years and I don't even think that I 38 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: don't even think that did it. I think maybe a 39 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: couple thousand from the Trump retweet era. But to see 40 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: for those who are listening, it's like, and I know 41 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: so many of you aren't on Twitter, so she's like, 42 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: why is this such a big deal? For This is 43 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: where so many ideas start and then gain support and 44 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: then filter into the rest of the information page. Your 45 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: front page comes from Twitter. If you read a newspaper, 46 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: it is in many ways coming through the Twitter marketplace 47 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: of ideas. If you watch a show on television, it 48 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: is in many ways no matter where, it is being 49 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: distilled through the prism of Twitter. For people out there 50 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: who are not active, that is kind of a rough 51 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: approximation of what's going on on a day to day basis. 52 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: And so now what we're seeing is that people like 53 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: Clay and me who have been saying for years this 54 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: is rigged. They're shutting things down, they're shenanigans going on. 55 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: They're lying. Twitter was lying to the American people for 56 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: years about not actually having political censorship underway, just about safety. 57 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: You know, you know this daily mail piece. I see 58 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: this person who is Twitter's lead for Global curation standards, 59 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: who's very upset about this global curation standards. I didn't 60 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: even know that was a job title they had there. 61 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: This is actually Orwellian people abuse that term all the time. 62 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: But the notion that there should be a person who 63 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: is curated, which is just another way of saying imposing 64 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:09,559 Speaker 1: their own beliefs and editing, picking, picking and choosing ideas, personalities, concepts, 65 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: political movements on a global scale for everybody to see 66 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: on this platform just goes to show you like, who 67 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: is this person? What? What are her beliefs? Why do 68 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: we have to be subjected to them? And for people 69 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: say it's oh, it's a private first of all, as 70 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: we all know it is. It's a private company now. 71 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: It was a public company before, not a state enterprise, 72 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: but it's a private company about to be and I 73 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: guess it can do what it wants. But Clay, they've 74 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: built this platform with the promise that it would be 75 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: free speech and they've lied to people. That's what they 76 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: decided to weaponize, an open free speech platform all across 77 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: the political all across issues, and they're lying to you 78 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: now about what's really going on. They keep saying it's 79 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: gonna be They're saying Elon Musk is a child of 80 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: apartheid South Africa and a racist. You know, he's a 81 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: bad person, and he's they're they're going after him of 82 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: all this stuff. The things that upset the right that 83 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: we can't say on Twitter are things like masks don't work, 84 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: which they don't, that men are not women, which they aren't. 85 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 1: I mean, there's very there's very straightforward rules that we 86 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: talk about. They never even addressed this. You don't see 87 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: Stelter over at CMN, and you don't see I don't 88 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: know where the view is on this. They'd probably be like, 89 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: what's Twitter? You know, Joy Behar weighing in. I want 90 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: to play a couple of cuts. Sometimes you can tell 91 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: you're in a good spot when the people who are 92 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: the angry ones are the angry ones. And by the way, 93 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: I put up ten suggestions for Elon Musk. I just 94 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: clicked publish right before we set down for this show. 95 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: I spend a lot of time on Twitter, way too much, 96 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: to be honest. I probably should have spent more time 97 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: on Instagram and YouTube and Facebook because they're wildly more popular. 98 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: But my media come and he basically came to exist 99 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: in many ways through Twitter, and so I'm obligated to 100 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: be sharing stuff all day long, as you know Buck. 101 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, my man Clay tweets a lot. Folks 102 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: does missus tell the truth. Does missus Travis ever take 103 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: the phone away at the dinner table and say, Clay, 104 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: that's enough tweeting. I Buck, this is the truth. Do 105 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: you know? Do you ever look at your iPhone and 106 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: see how much time you spend on your phone? I 107 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: try not here because it's depressing. I spend eight hours 108 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: a day on my phone. Wow. Now, partly that's when 109 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: we're here doing the show, Like I'm scrolling. You're scrolling, 110 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: like for three hours to see what the news is. 111 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: But that's not counting the other amounts of time that 112 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: are out there, and a lot of it is on Twitter. 113 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: The vast majority of the time that I spend on 114 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 1: any app. If you look at it breaks down how 115 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: much time you spend on apps, The vast majority of 116 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: my time is on Twitter. So I have been initially 117 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: wildly enthusias astic about the future of Twitter a decade ago. 118 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: I was before the censor culture took over, before identity 119 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: politics and cancel culture took over. I was all in 120 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: on Twitter. I think Elon Musk can rescue it. But 121 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: let's listen to First of all, this is ari Ari 122 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: Melbur He's on MSNBC. I don't know him at all, 123 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: but I want you to listen to him. This feels 124 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: like satire because he's suddenly realizing weight if Elon Musk 125 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: wants to he can rig the entire site and control 126 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: what you see and don't see. And the lack of 127 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: awareness from this in min MSNBC opinionist is staggering because 128 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: many of you out there gonna say, yeah, that's what's 129 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: been going on for years, You nincompoop. Listen. You own 130 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: all of Twitter or Facebook or what have you. You 131 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: don't have to explain yourself. You don't even have to 132 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: be transparent. You could secretly ban one party's candidate or 133 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: all of its candidates, all of its nominees, or you 134 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: could just secretly turn down the reach of their stuff 135 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: and turn up the reach of something else, and the 136 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: rest of us might not even find out about it 137 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: till after the election. Alon Must says this is all 138 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: to help people, because he is just stay free speech, 139 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: philosophically clear, open minded helper Clay. Can I just say, 140 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: I wonder if this mister Melburg is aware of the 141 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: fact that Twitter banned a sitting United States president. The 142 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: actual President of the United States, Donald J. Trump, was 143 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: booted from this platform. He had over eighty million followers 144 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: something like that, and they kicked off the actual leader 145 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: of the free world. Okay, and I said it at 146 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: the time. That was a crossing of the rubicon moment. 147 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: That was when, you know, we focus a lot more 148 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: now on the Hunter Biden laptop because that story is ongoing, really, 149 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: but when they booted and of course there was the 150 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: suppression of that story to try to throw the election 151 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: to Biden. Isn't it interesting they like their social media 152 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: platforms like they like their elections. Clay rig and here, 153 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: why thank you? Here? We are seeing that they went 154 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: to that length and everything that we thought about them 155 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: when they booted the president off, which is wow, this 156 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: is a straight up like it's like a DNC propaganda operation. 157 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: Now doesn't have to do it all the time because 158 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: I know what the sort of low IQ lib crowd 159 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 1: will say, Oh, but you and Clay are on Twitter. Yeah, 160 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: but in key moments on lockdowns, on masks, on election integrity, 161 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,719 Speaker 1: on what happened in Georgia, what happened in Arizona, on 162 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 1: the Hunter Biden laptop, they shut that stuff down. If 163 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 1: we were totally all booted off of Twitter, it wouldn't 164 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: a propaganda has to be believable enough, this is whatever, 165 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: and has to understand they only have to really push 166 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: down hard on the scale in key moments. It doesn't 167 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 1: have to be across the board on everything. Yeah, we say, 168 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, is you know, look Seen Island absurd? Because 169 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: you know true, they'll let us say that stuff. But 170 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: when it's really important to them, when it comes to 171 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: the transgender agenda, for example, and you know sports and 172 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 1: dead naming and all these different things, that's where they 173 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: turned the screws and shut down the right. That's where 174 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: they actually use the pressure. And our boy, so that's 175 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: MSNBC CNN was also really unhappy about suddenly Elon Musk 176 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: buying Twitter and our Boy Brian Stelter, he was really 177 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: upset by this, and in fact, he was saying, do 178 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: you want to go to a party with total I'm sorry, 179 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: do you want to go to a party with total freedom? Yeah? Actually, 180 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: I kind of Delter wasn't invited to a lot of 181 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 1: parties in high school. Let's be honest. I mean, I 182 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: don't like to be that guy. But let's listen to 183 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: cut two. As Brian Stelter freaks out about the party 184 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: that you might be invited to and there's no rules, Guys, 185 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: why wouldn't be positive for him to be back, to 186 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: have a huge megaphone, to maybe run for president with 187 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 1: his huge megaphone. This would be a plus for Donald Trump. 188 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: You could also make the case that Donald Trump suddenly 189 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: be back in the news is very visible in a 190 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: way that he hasn't been, would remind people of exactly 191 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: why he was, why he lost his election, and why 192 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 1: he's why he was booted from office. So look, who knows? 193 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: I think that's a that's a That's an example of 194 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: a broader question for Twitter, which is if you can 195 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: invited to something where there are no rules, where there 196 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: is total freedom forever everybody, do you actually want to 197 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: go to that party? Or are you gonn decide to 198 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: stay home? And that's a question for Twitter users. Can 199 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: I just ask you, Clay, do you want to go 200 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: to the party where the beer is just flood from 201 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 1: kegs with their beautiful whipid without hall monitors president and 202 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: where people are danzig rhythmic lead a loud music. Do 203 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: you want to go to that party? I think you do. Yes. 204 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: Some of the girls might not wear fully covered. They 205 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: might have covered their full bodies. They might even be 206 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 1: in haltertops or skirts. Their legs might be visible. They 207 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: might be in heels, they might have done their hair. 208 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: They might be good. What gig is that the kind 209 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: of party that you want to go to? Brian Stelter 210 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: doesn't want to go to that party. I just I mean, 211 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: it's an easy joke to make. But first of all, 212 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: there are rules, Like I haven't ever been to a 213 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: party where you just walk in and be like, hey, 214 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: there's the keg over there. But by the way, that 215 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: guy has a gun and he might he's gonna shoot 216 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: somebody every five minutes at the party like that. Every 217 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: party has rules, every party has ever replace And so 218 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: actually his analogy, if we're gonna be labored a little 219 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: bit here, yeah, no, you're you're you know, people are 220 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: welcome to the Twitter party. They're not allowed to burn 221 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: the house down, Kurt. They also can't decide I don't 222 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: like your baseball hats, so you don't get to get 223 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: to the keg. You know. They also can't just be 224 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: arbitrary and capricious about who's actually allowed to You can't 225 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: walk in and just say, oh, your music, I don't 226 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 1: like it, they should be no music in this party. 227 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: If you're a guest, like you don't get to make 228 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: that choice. And if you don't like the party, you 229 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: can leave, which is that easy analogy as well. I 230 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 1: want to make my pitch hit Clay. We come back 231 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: about how this is going to affect the ripple effect 232 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: of this, and I actually do have faith and it 233 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: is faith, I mean and Elon we trust when it 234 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: comes to Twitter and social media now right, I mean 235 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 1: he could, yes, we don't know yet, but I have 236 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: faith that he's going to do this and it will 237 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: have massive, second order, massive ripple effects on other social 238 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: media platforms and on the national political conversation. 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They don't really believe in freedom 274 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: of speech. I've got to tell you, Elizabeth Warren how 275 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: Leadershipeth Warren among them, she has tweeted out Clay, I'm 276 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: sure you saw this, that Elon Musk's purchase of Twitter 277 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: is dangerous for our democracy. If you're wondering how this 278 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: is such a big deal, think about what the Democrats 279 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: response to this is. They are exposing themselves for being petty, tyrants, 280 00:15:56,200 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: obsessed with the power to shut down any words they 281 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: don't like, to elevate really stupid, flimsy, indefensible ideas. This 282 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: whole concept, and I want ever to remember this, the 283 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: whole concept you here of disinformation. Disinformation has become the buzzword, really, 284 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: the code word for we will shut you down for 285 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: saying this. The only reason they've been able to even 286 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: get as far with this, Clay as they have is 287 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: because they had total control of the social media platforms 288 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: to decide that something was disinformation and to act on it. 289 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: Now contrarian positions have to actually be dealt with in 290 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: the public square, or soon I should say that will happen. Yeah, 291 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: and look, Elizabeth Warren, I just it is perfect evidence 292 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: to me, Buck of sometimes the people who are attacking 293 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: you let you know that you're on the right side. 294 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: And what Elizabeth Warren is effectively arguing here, think about 295 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 1: who has become the villain. Elon Musk was the patron 296 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: saint of left wingers because he managed to build an 297 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: electric car company and theoretically helped to create some energy 298 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: independence because it gave people an option not to have 299 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: to buy a gas powered vehicle. And he also is 300 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: sending rockets to space more efficiently, effectively and affordably than 301 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 1: NASA was able to do. And they now hate him 302 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: because he's going to say, hey, you know what, maybe 303 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: it's not a bad idea to allow people to make 304 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: their own and share their own opinions. That's what they're 305 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: upset with, Buck. They are angry because Elon Musk is 306 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: not going to be censoring enough on social media to 307 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: throw a quick question you're away before we come back, 308 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: and maybe dive into this and some other things. Clay 309 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: Trump says he's not going back on Twitter. 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That's Pound two five 330 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 1: zero say Pure Talk. Welcome back, hid Glay, Travis Buck 331 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: Sexton show hope all of you are having a fantastic Tuesday. 332 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: We are here because we're starting to stack some dubs. 333 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: I gotta be honest with you, Buck. When you think 334 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: about CNN plus shutting down, losing three hundred million dollars, 335 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: and you also then add in the fact that Elon 336 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 1: Musk has bought Twitter, that the mask mandate has come 337 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: plumbing down thanks to the judge in Florida, and that 338 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's approval ratings continue to tank. All of those 339 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: things are stacking up dubs for the good guys. And 340 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 1: the question you asked as we went to break, I 341 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: think is one that is of paramount discussion and importance. 342 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 1: What should Twitter do with Donald Trump? What should Donald 343 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: Trump do with Twitter? And how do we assess that impact. 344 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: My theory Buck, and I was sharing this yesterday, is 345 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 1: I think that as part of his relationship with truth 346 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: Social that Trump has likely agreed that he I don't 347 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 1: know this for certain. This is just my theory that 348 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: Trump has likely agreed that he will not rejoin Twitter, 349 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: and so I think that's why he's saying that he 350 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: won't rejoin Twitter, because he's got an equity stake in 351 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: truth Social. And if you were investing in truth Social, 352 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 1: one of the clear landmines out there would be, well, 353 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 1: what if Twitter invited you back? What are we buying 354 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: as a part of your exclusivity. I think they've got 355 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: him exclusively, but I actually think Elon Musk should invite 356 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: Donald Trump back on Twitter. I think that would be 357 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: the right call. I think Elon Musk taking over Twitter 358 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 1: should make the opinion Alex Barrenson Babylon B I think 359 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: he should wipe out all Twitter bannings and in the 360 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: concept of we're going to kick people off of Twitter 361 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: for what they say. In my opinion, and the question 362 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: that is out there is does Trump actually benefit from 363 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: being off Twitter? We've argued that the answer may well 364 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: be yes, because the people who are most likely to 365 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: decide to embrace Donald Trump or not are many of 366 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,719 Speaker 1: them are suburban women, these swing voters. Maggie Haberman at 367 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 1: The New York Times actually, I think picked up on 368 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 1: the argument that we've been making the past couple of days. 369 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 1: He or she is making it as well. He has 370 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: people put out yesterday that he's not going to go 371 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: back on Twitter, even with Elon must buying it. Let's 372 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: see whether that holds true in a couple of months. 373 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: I think it's very hard for him. He has to 374 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: say that, because otherwise it craters that deal from what 375 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: the social media deal of his own, which from which 376 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: he stands to make money. That thing's not going well. 377 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: I tend to assume what he wants is to be 378 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: back on Twitter. But look, I think that when you 379 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 1: look at it politically, Republicans and Democrats will both tell 380 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: you that Twitter did Donald Trump a favor and actually 381 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: hurt Democrats by taking him off Twitter. He seems to 382 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: be a central player politically the same way, and you've 383 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 1: got less of a reminder daily of the things he's 384 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: willing to say. So let's see where this gouss. There 385 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: is an indicator here, Clay of what I think truth 386 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: in what she's saying, and that is the daily news 387 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: cycle that Democrats try to run with is January six, 388 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: Trump interaction from white supremacy Trump. All the time, they 389 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: keep trying to bring it back, and this is their 390 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: game plan going into the midterms. To anyone who has 391 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: even a little bit of objectivity, it feels pathetic and desperate. 392 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: Right Donald Trump is not president, not even elected office. 393 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: The guys playing golf, hanging on tomorrow lago. You know, 394 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: you've seen him down there. I've seen him. He's having 395 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: a great time. He's not in any way somebody who 396 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: should be driving the left, the Democrat news cycle right now, 397 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: But they've they created such a I mean, CNN, for example, 398 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 1: just became an anti Trump network. I mean that it 399 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: existed to oppose Donald Trump, which I think led very 400 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: directly into the collapse of CNN Plus because what are 401 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 1: they what are they offering on their main channel right now? 402 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: Never mind with CNN Plus. And so there is this 403 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: possibility that it will reinvigorate, if, if you will, the left, 404 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: if Trump were on Twitter and saying things, and they 405 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: could say, oh, look at what he's done here, look 406 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: at what he's done there that all said. If he 407 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: runs again for president, there's just no way he's not 408 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: gonna get it. I just don't believe. There's no way 409 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: he's not gonna get back on Twitter. I just don't 410 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: believe it that would be possible. Here is what I 411 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: would be doing. If I advised Donald Trump associated with this, 412 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: I would be putting the polling in front of him 413 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: on a regular basis. This came out yesterday. Buck Insider 414 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: Advantage and the Harvard Harris poll both polled Trump versus 415 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: Biden head to head. Insider Advantage had Trump up for 416 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: general election. Harvard Harris had Trump up too. By the way, 417 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: all of this, if I'm sitting there and saying to Trump, look, 418 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna win whoever the Republicans nominate in twenty twenty four, 419 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: if Joe Biden truly runs, should win. The only way 420 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: you don't win is if the story shifts from Biden 421 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: is a disaster too. Let's talk about something other than 422 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: Biden being a disaster. Election should be a referendum when 423 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 1: there is an incumbent on the incumbent in office or 424 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 1: the incumbent party in office. And so I'm putting in 425 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 1: front of Donald Trump, Hey, things are going really well 426 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: for you. You come on, you do an hour with 427 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck every now and then you go do 428 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: your Sean Hannity interviews, You hop on with friendly media. 429 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be encouraging. And when I say friendly media, 430 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: I mean people who don't think that Donald Trump is 431 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 1: the devil incarnate, because a huge percentage of the media does. 432 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: I don't think he gains by talking to those people. 433 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: But I think those middle of the road voters, they're 434 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,719 Speaker 1: sitting around and they're saying, you know what, I may 435 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: not have loved Trump. These are the persuadable middle of 436 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: the road. But he was nowhere near as bad as 437 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: Biden is on every issue. My concern is Twitter makes 438 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: the issue Trump again as opposed to Biden. Yeah, and 439 00:24:55,880 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: you also have there must be I think if Trump 440 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: is going to run for a second term, which it 441 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: looks like he is. We don't know yet. It's a 442 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: way off, but there's gonna need to be people around 443 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: him is say, Okay, this time, you already crushed the media. 444 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: You brought CNN to its knees. You know, it was 445 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: highly entertaining, it was amazing. Now it's time, you know, 446 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: round two. If assuming we get there, it's not a 447 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: circus anymore. It's serious. Now is when the agenda gets implemented. 448 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: Now's when the wall gets finished. Now is when the 449 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 1: promises that are made are all promises kept. And because 450 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 1: even Trump would say, look it was supposed to have 451 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: eight years, right, so for no one thinks it all 452 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: got done in four years. But that shift from circus 453 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: to seriousness. Now the media is of course going to 454 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: say insurrection that they're gonna but I'm saying block that 455 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,360 Speaker 1: out for a second. From what Trump and the people 456 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: around him could do a renewed sense of focus and 457 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: a lack of distraction. Now there are gonna be some 458 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: people will say they're not confident necessarily that's a shift 459 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: that's pople Yeah, I will have to see, but I 460 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: do think that's important and will be important going forward 461 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: to bring back Look, there there were a lot of 462 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: working class voters that did not that that did not 463 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: put aside the fraud and the cheating. I'm just if 464 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: you look at the numbers, there were working class voters 465 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: in Michigan and Wisconsin and Pennsylvania who didn't who didn't 466 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 1: turn out in twenty twenty the way they did in 467 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, there were there were some problems here and 468 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: that to address that properly the next time around, there 469 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: needs to be a sense of focus, a sense of 470 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 1: purpose and pursuing the agenda and the mission and not 471 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: you know, just slapping around Joe Scarborough on Twitter for kicks. Yeah, 472 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: and look, I think the question becomes, do you want 473 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: to dominate right or do you want to be sitting 474 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 1: late at night worried about where those final ballots are 475 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: going to come in? Right? Because twenty sixteen narrow victory, 476 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: twenty twenty by the numbers, narrow loss, basically one hundred thousand, 477 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty thousand vote swing. I really believe 478 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,959 Speaker 1: that Trump could dominate, especially in the electoral College in 479 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, if he runs the campaign of Hey, 480 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 1: I wasn't perfect, but Biden is a disaster, and I 481 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: will fix the mess that he created. That's the message. 482 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: That's the message, and a sentence. I'm big on buck 483 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: When I used to teach I talk creative writing back 484 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: in the day at Vanderbilt in a different life. I'm 485 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 1: big on if you can distill anything into a sentence. 486 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: Story and a sentence is huge Trump's story and a 487 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: sentence is to me. I wasn't perfect as president, but 488 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: I was way better than Joe Biden, and I will 489 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 1: fix everything that he's gotten wrong. That's a landslide win, 490 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: but it's if it's Joe Biden saying I'm not perfect, 491 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: but Donald Trump is going to be tweeting like crazy 492 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 1: and he's not gonna let you sleep comfortably at night. 493 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: That a right on the periphery moment of in twenty 494 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: twenty four winner loss again and obsessed with the twenty 495 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: twenty election. This is the other thing. Yeah, this is 496 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 1: the other thing. We're really going to talk about this. 497 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: How do we move How do we become a Republican 498 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,719 Speaker 1: party that can have a conversation about the leader of 499 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: the party that is helpful going forward, that is not 500 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,239 Speaker 1: just is not just always cheering section. This is going 501 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: to be an issue. I worry about this. Yes, you 502 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: have to address the concerns of twenty twenty for the 503 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: next election, But there's a difference between making sure that 504 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: we work on election integrity and that people have full 505 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: faith and a sense of accountability in the elections and 506 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: sounding like you're complaining about it. Still, Yeah, there's a difference. 507 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: It's great. It might be a bit subtle, but there 508 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: is a difference in these things. And my hope is 509 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: that twenty twenty two is such a landslide that that 510 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: puts twenty twenty in the background and we start to 511 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: focus on twenty twenty four. Because elections are about the future, 512 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: they're not typically about the past. All of these are 513 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: going to be big, monumentally important conversations to have. And 514 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: if Rohnda Santis can win in Florida, let's say, by 515 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:12,959 Speaker 1: a few hundred thousand votes after winning by forty votes, yeah, 516 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: it means that you know, elections can have consequences and 517 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: really good ones too. You know you want to run 518 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: exactly right, because I think there's a good chance that 519 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: Florida is the story coming out of twenty twenty two 520 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: and people are saying, holy cow, Florida went from a 521 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: toss up state for twenty years to one that's firmly 522 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: in the Republican camp now, which would be potentially part 523 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: of the monumental victory that Ronda Santis could show in 524 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. Mother's Day's coming up. 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We're going to dive into the latest on 554 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: immigration Title forty two getting removed or not. Maybe we've 555 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: got a judge who was said no, no, no, not 556 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: so fast, and ironically this could actually benefit the Democrats 557 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: and honestly the country against the Democrats protests and all 558 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: their anger. We'll get into that though, and the politics 559 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: around it, the realities of what's going on in our 560 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: southern border, and of course some of the problems that 561 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: we are already seeing that are happening because we don't 562 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: have an administration that believes in the rule of law 563 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:06,479 Speaker 1: when it comes to immigration. But first there is I 564 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: think you're noticing a very real panic. I mean, Clay, 565 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: they're not quite like, they're not quite at the just 566 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: you know, run for the exits, get to the bunker. 567 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: But the Democrats are definitely feeling right now like it's 568 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: almost may Man's gonna turn in June real fast. Not 569 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: a lot happens in politics over the summer, and they're 570 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: looking at the at the reckoning. We just call it 571 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: hashtag the reckoning in politics this fall that we've been 572 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,959 Speaker 1: telling you, and by the way we are we are 573 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: pedal to the metal. We are push all the way. 574 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: A win that any Democrat on air at MSNBC isn't 575 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: basically in tears over is not good enough. That's the 576 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: If there aren't lived tears on MSNBC, we will not 577 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: be happy with the results. Here is a democratic polster, smart, 578 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: very smart fellow, mister Mark Penn, saying that Democrats haven't 579 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: been scared like this in a long time. I think 580 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: there are a lot of ways the president can do that, 581 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: but it involves a big reversal policy. Look, I think 582 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: voters are feeling like the nuclear fears of the fifties, 583 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: the crime fears of the eighties and nineties, the inflation 584 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: fears of the seventies, and all of these things are 585 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: happening at once. The administration's got to take big, bold 586 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: action here. It's got to reverse the energy policy. It's 587 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: got to find real compromises the way we did in 588 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: the nineties. If the administration doesn't act big, it can 589 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: take on these big issues. Look, every president wants to 590 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: do a particular job, but that job gets changed by 591 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: the real circumstances, as you will know, after nine to 592 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: eleven happened with Bush. Look, these big problems happened here 593 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: for Biden, he's got to address him in big ways. 594 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: Voters haven't been this afraid in a long time. You 595 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: add all those big issues together, Clay, there's nothing. What 596 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: is the big I will just note what is the 597 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: big move that Biden could do without in the eyes 598 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: of his base betraying them. There's nothing. He's not going 599 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: to do anything. That's the only thing I think is 600 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: the Elizabeth Warrens of a world may get their way 601 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: where the Democrats recognize that they're staring down an oncoming 602 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: train and that there's no way to step out of 603 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: the way of it, and so they just decide to 604 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: push through even more liberal, left wing bills because they 605 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: know they're not going to be able to do it 606 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: for the next two years. I think that's what we're seeing. 607 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: We're going to dive into the border situation and illegal 608 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: immigration here in a minute. And we've kept our promise 609 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: to you folks. We are watching this closely and every 610 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,959 Speaker 1: time we can tell you what's going on there. Because 611 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 1: the whole country needs to know about it. It is 612 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 1: you know, you just filed your taxes. You better or 613 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: else right, because the rule of law, there is no 614 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,399 Speaker 1: rule of law to the southern border. It's a joke. 615 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: It's a mess. And the Biden administration isn't just complicit. 616 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:45,399 Speaker 1: They're pushing this, They're they're deal. They're making it impossible 617 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: for border patrol to do their jobs and for us 618 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,399 Speaker 1: to actually have sovereignty. But Clay, I do I think 619 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: that maybe the whole Title forty two thing in in 620 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 1: a sense this maybe getting ahead of where we're about 621 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 1: to go, is they figure, you know what, just open 622 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 1: the we're gonna get We're gonna it crushed in the 623 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:05,320 Speaker 1: midterms anyway, open the floodgates. We'll turn them into Democrat voters. 624 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: In five years or ten years or whatever. The far 625 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 1: left base will be happy. We'll regroup after the midterms 626 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: then there might be some sanity. But for right now, 627 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: let everybody in who can get here is the idea, 628 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: because Democrats really do want an open border. That's my 629 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: concern basically is that they just go pedal to the metal, 630 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: recognizing that they're going to lose the House and that 631 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: they're going to lose the Senate. Now, it's important to mention, 632 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: and we'll talk about this with title forty two when 633 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: we come back, that there are a lot of Democrats, 634 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: pretty much all of them in toss up states Arizona, 635 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: New Hampshire, Georgia, Nevada, New Mexico, even which is maybe 636 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: kind of floating around out there. There are a bunch 637 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: of Democrats that are saying no, no, no no to this 638 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: title forty two idea. And it makes me wonder how 639 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: far left wing might they go because they've basically given 640 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 1: up on the chance of having any real success in 641 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,919 Speaker 1: the midterms, and why not try and get things past 642 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: in the meantime. I could see the Elizabeth Warrens of 643 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 1: the world winning that argument. I think they've boxed themselves 644 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 1: into a corner because anything that would stop the flow, 645 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: some of those things are what Trump was doing, and 646 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,399 Speaker 1: you can't do that, right, Clay, You can't a bit 647 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 1: Trump was right on any aspect of the border. So 648 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 1: what are they going to do. I think they're going 649 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 1: to try to hide the numbers or hide the people 650 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,879 Speaker 1: rather who are coming in. We're going to dive into 651 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 1: this in the second with you folks, what do you think? 652 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 1: And remember a third hour, we'll have our friends Douglas Murray, 653 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 1: author of War on the West with Us, as well 654 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,760 Speaker 1: as Miranda Divine, the One and Only on the latest, 655 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 1: the Biden Crime Family. That's all third Hour. It's going 656 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: to be fantastic coming up. We'll do border issues, deep 657 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: dive illegal immigration. What's Biden going to do next on 658 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,959 Speaker 1: this issue? Eight hundred two two two eight a two 659 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,720 Speaker 1: on the phone lines. Love to hear your thoughts, team, 660 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: and we will be back with you. Clay and Buck 661 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 1: going strong into the second hour. It's how we do 662 00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 1: with it. Sleet, Travis and Buck Sexton on the front 663 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 1: lines of truth.