1 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: Hi again everybody on dan Horde and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast. The this time I'm walk into 3 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: new Lands. Addition, as the two and three Bengals look 4 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: to get back to five hundred as they face the 5 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: two and three Saints inside the Caesar Superdome. Coming up, 6 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: former Bengals wide receiver t J. Hushman Zada tells us 7 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 1: how the Bengals can fix the problems they're having on offense. 8 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: Eli Apple discusses letting his play do the talking as 9 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: he returns to the Big Easy. I'll discuss criticism of 10 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: the Bengals play calling with Dave Lapham and finally it's 11 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: our No the Faux segment as we visit with the 12 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: voice of the Saints, my Coss. The Bengals Booth Podcast 13 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: is presented by Bengals Picks and Ultimate Bengals. They're free 14 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: to play with tickets and signed merchandise up for grabs. 15 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: Find both inside the Bengals app. Now here's a quick reminder. 16 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: You can have the latest edition of this podcast delivered 17 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: right to your phone, tablet, or computer by subscribing wherever 18 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. It's the greatest thing since the 19 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: chargrilled oysters at Drago's. One of my good friends in 20 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: the broadcasting business is Todd Graffanini, the radio voice of 21 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: the NBA's New Orleans Pelicans. Todd was born and raised 22 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: in New Orleans, and several years ago when I was 23 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: visiting the city, he told me that I had to 24 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: try the chargrilled oysters at Drago's. When I told Todd 25 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: I didn't really like oysters, he said, I don't care. 26 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: It's the single best bite of food you'll have in 27 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: the city. So out of respect for Todd, I took 28 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: his advice and they are amazing. Plus they come with 29 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: this sauce that you sop up with fresh bread, and 30 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: that might be the best part. So if you are 31 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: going to the game this week, take Todd's advice and 32 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:04,639 Speaker 1: get the chargrilled oysters at Dragos. I'm drooling just thinking 33 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 1: about it. Now. Let's look ahead to Sunday's game. Through 34 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: five weeks, the Bengals offense has underperformed. Cincinnati is next 35 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: to last in the league in yards per play and 36 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 1: tied for sixteenth in scoring. The Bengals have scored twenty 37 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: or fewer points in all three of their losses so 38 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: what's the fix? I discussed it with one of the 39 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: best wideouts in team history this week. The Bengals have 40 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: had many great receivers over the years, but nobody caught 41 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: more passes in a single season than t J. Hushman 42 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: Zada one hundred and twelve back in two thousand and seven, 43 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: and the former Pro Bowl receiver joins us now TJ. 44 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: Opposing defenses are trying to take away the deep ball 45 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: from Cincinnati this year by playing two deep safeties all 46 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: of the time, and it's been effective. What's the answer 47 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 1: to beating that coverage? Run the ball. Just run the ball, 48 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: and not only will it open up the passing game, 49 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: it's gonna make it easier for the offensive line the 50 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: block in the passing situations because now they can't just 51 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: rush up the field. Word about playing the pass, They 52 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: got to kind of hold their gaps to play the run. 53 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 1: So just run. You can run the ball effectively and 54 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: get four to five yards a pop. They're gonna bring 55 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:27,839 Speaker 1: a safety down and like everybody does, you call two 56 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: to three plays at the line of scrimmage. If Joe 57 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 1: Sings sees a single high, now we can throw it. 58 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: If it's too high, just run the ball and hope 59 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: you can get four to five yards. You have been 60 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: watching Joe Burrow closely since his las few days. You've 61 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: got a couple of daughters that have played softball there. 62 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:44,839 Speaker 1: What do you see when you watch Joe right now? 63 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: I mean, he's still the same player. You gotta think 64 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: you have surgery in the preseason. Nobody really plays the 65 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: preseason anymore, and so in essence, the first two to 66 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: three games, he's just trying to find himself and get 67 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: in the groove of playing football. But there's times also 68 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: when you're watching them first couple of games, Joe's holding 69 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: onto the ball because he wants to create the big play. 70 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: And sometimes it's like, Okay, let me just check it down. 71 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: Let me throw this hitch route, let me throw this 72 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: five yard en route or whatever it mean. Let me 73 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: throw this drag route. So maybe later on down the 74 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: game it opens up the stuff behind it. But there's 75 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: at times you watched and he's held onto the ball 76 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: and he gets sacked or he may get hit, and 77 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: it's all the offensive line, and Joe knows part of 78 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 1: that is on him. But he's trying to create the 79 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: big play because he did that last year, and he 80 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: created the big play after his record setting rookie year, 81 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase is getting double team down just about every route. 82 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: How do you get your star receiver the ball when 83 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 1: that's the case. I mean it's simple, man, That's what 84 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: I said earlier. If they're able to run the ball effectively, 85 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: they're they're not going to be able to double them. 86 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: And when he's not doubled, I mean, it sucks. You 87 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: just gotta make when you're not double, you gotta make 88 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 1: the play because when you start to get double, it's 89 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: a badge of honor. You like, you really like that. 90 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: You're like, oh man, they really respect me. But then 91 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: it becomes annoying, like Bruv playing me one on one. 92 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: But that's a respect thing for him. But also, if 93 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: T doesn't go down with that angle injury, te Higgins 94 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: gonna kill there. You can't double everybody, and so when 95 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: you have T Higgins, you have Tyler Boyd. Those guys 96 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: can force that double team to come off chasing. If 97 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: they don't. You see what you saw with the Miami Dolphins. 98 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: Te Higgins gets off and has a big game. And 99 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: if they're willing to lose the game because you want 100 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: to stop chasing going off and t does, and so 101 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: be it. Let's talk about the third member of the 102 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: Cincinnati three way, Tyler Boyd. When I watch eighty three, 103 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: I see a lot of eighty four from back in 104 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: the day. Great hands, really tough against the coverage over 105 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: the middle, etc. This week, Zach Taylor and Brian Callahan 106 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: said they feel they need to get Tyler Boyd involved more. 107 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: Do you agree, Yeah, anytime you can get the ball 108 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: to other guys, it's gonna open up who you really 109 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,679 Speaker 1: want to get the ball to. And so yeah, Tyler 110 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: boy we're similar in that respect. I think I probably 111 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: talk a little more trash during the game and he does, 112 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 1: unless the camera doesn't show it as much. But again, 113 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: the Bengals, it's a dilemma because they have so many weapons. 114 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: When when I was playing, it was Chad myself and 115 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: we would run the ball. It was Chris Henry, but 116 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: we didn't really utilize our tight end. Reggie Kelly was 117 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: in essence a sixth offensive linemen, whereas now they will 118 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: utilize the tight end. So now it's more more mouths 119 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,119 Speaker 1: the feed, so to speak. They just got to figure 120 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: out a way to make this work. The two and three. 121 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 1: But each game has come down to the last possession 122 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: of last kick, and so I'm not I'm not too 123 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: much worried about them getting into the playoffs. I'm not 124 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: too much worried about them turning this around. They just 125 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: got to figure out a way how to get big plays, 126 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: keep Joe off his back, and they'll be fine. We 127 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: are chatting with former Bengals wide receiver t J. Hushman Zada, 128 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: now the co host of the Airing It Out podcast. 129 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the other side of the ball. The 130 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: Bengals defense has given up five touchdowns in five games. 131 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: When you watch this defense, do you consider to be 132 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: one of the best in the NFL? They're very good. 133 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: Defense is very good. And you got to think about 134 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: it is when you say who's the best out to me, 135 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: when I think deep, when I think the Bengals nationally, 136 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: people are gonna think Jesse Bates. Outside of that, it's like, 137 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: as Sam Hubbard is it, Trey Hendrickson, The Bengals have 138 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: a collective unit where they all can just really play. 139 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: They built a team defensively that it doesn't just rely 140 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: on one player having to get pressure on the quarterback 141 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: or one dB having a shutter receiver down. They just 142 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: play collectively as a unit. But the defense they're doing 143 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: this last year, it's not a secret. That's why I 144 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: wanted to resign Jesse Base because I think he's very 145 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: important to this team. But when you see who they drafted, 146 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: it's like, h Jesse, you might not be here long. 147 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: But it's a business one. But they were doing this 148 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: last year, so it's not a surprise to me. It's 149 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: not a surprise at all. They had to New Orleans 150 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: this week, a very loud place to play. The Saints 151 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: are two and three under the new head coach Dennis Allen. 152 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: Do you have a couple of keys that immediately come 153 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: to mind when you look ahead to Sunday, man the 154 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: Saints are gonna play really good defense. It's a reunion 155 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: with Andy Dalton, so to speak, So you know, I'm 156 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: sure he'll probably be under center for the Saints with 157 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: Jameis Winston still hurt. Keep your composure. That stadium is 158 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: probably that Seattle Seahawks Kansas City Chiefs, so they're probably 159 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: the three loud of stadiums that I can recall playing in. 160 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: So you just gotta keep your composure. Make sure you 161 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: know where Cam Jordan is every single play because he 162 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: can wreck every play throughout the entire entirety of the game. 163 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: And the Saints don't. They don't really double guys. If 164 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: you watch them play defensively, they put Marshawn Laddimar on 165 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: your best guy and say beat him. They did it 166 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: with Justin Jefferson. They didn't double him when they play 167 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: the Bucks. They don't double Mike Evans. So maybe this 168 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: can be a game Jamar can look at it and say, 169 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 1: Dennis Allen doesn't double guys. He puts Marshawn Lattimore on 170 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: him and say you got him. So maybe this will 171 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: be a game that Chase can get off in. You 172 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: mentioned Cam Jordan. You just had him on your podcast. 173 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 1: Do you see that Cam Jordan versus Lall Collins matchup 174 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: possibly being the biggest matchup of the game. Yeah, no, 175 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 1: disrespect to Collins. They're gonna have to make sure they 176 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: give him help. Hearing there, Cam Jordan, he's just too 177 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 1: good of a player, man, and you can't block him 178 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: one on one. You have to account for him. You 179 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: don't want a team's best players to beat you. And 180 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: Leo Collins probably he can block him by himself. I 181 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: don't even want to find out. I don't want to 182 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: get that crowd into the game. I don't want to 183 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 1: get him into the game. I'm not letting your best 184 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: player on that front seven beat me and s Cam Jordan. 185 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: I got to take him out the game, all right. 186 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: A couple more topics for T. J. Hushman Zada. What 187 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: did you think of the white helmets and the white 188 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: unis on Thursday Night football? Man? It was so clean. 189 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 1: We've always had the white helmet in any equipment room 190 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: even when I was playing, just could never wear it. 191 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: But nah, that was I got so many message that's 192 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: that's probably the codest uniform in the league, that all white. 193 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: No question, it was nice, real nice. Tell him to 194 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: send me a jersey. I would definitely pass along the message. 195 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 1: You did a really cool thing prior to the Super Bowl. 196 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: You helped a range for an eighty six year old 197 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: lifelong Bengals fan to get tickets to that game in 198 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: Los Angeles against the Rams. What motivated you to do that? 199 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: Somebody sent that to me and I had already given 200 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: my tickets to my uncle, and so I didn't have 201 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: a way to get any more tickets and so, like 202 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: I said, a friend of mine sent that to me, 203 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: and I forget it was a Saturday. I do remember 204 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: that it was a late Saturday night and I looked 205 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: at the Instagram. He sent it via Instagram and I 206 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: looked and I was just laying in the bed, and 207 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: for some reason, I was like, you know what, let 208 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: me go back to this clip. So I went and 209 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: watched it, and I was and I showed my wife, 210 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: and my wife kind of got like sad about it. 211 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 1: So I clicked on the link and I found the 212 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 1: name and I just DMed her and I said, I'm 213 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: gonna call you tomorrow, and then she DM me right back. 214 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: But I went to sleep because it was like midnight here, 215 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: so it's probably three o'clock and Cincinnati. I called her 216 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: the next day. She didn't it was Lizzie. She didn't 217 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: believe it was me. We talked. I was like, I'm 218 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: gonna try to get some tickets for you. I called 219 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 1: the NFL. They said they'll try to help, and in 220 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: the process, I called the Bengals and Alex Simons and 221 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: so Alex was tremendous in helping me, because the NFL 222 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: would have also helped but Alex was able to help 223 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: me through the Bengals, and so I bought them two tickets. 224 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 1: A lot of times we kind of take for granted 225 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: as players, the sands that come to the games, they 226 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: want your autograph, they want a picture like who we 227 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: excuse my language, that you want this from us, and 228 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: you kind of take that for granted. And so I 229 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: think that's the least we can do. At least, that 230 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: was the least I can do. You supported me all 231 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: the years that I played there. If I could help 232 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: you and I was able to help you, I'm more 233 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: than willing to do it. But this is the problem though. 234 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: Now everybody is like, hey, can I get tickets to this? 235 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: Can I play? What do you mean I can't continue 236 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: to do this now? Well, if they go back to 237 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: the super Bowl, that's a different level. You can't just 238 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: constantly be firing out. TJ helped me up with tickets. 239 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: That is a different level. But I'm gonna be honest, 240 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: I think in the next halful of years they got 241 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: a chance to be a frequent visitor there. I really do. 242 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: I couldn't agree with you more. And the Joe Burrow era, 243 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: I'm confident they're going to get back TJ. This has 244 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: been great. Always appreciate your time and your insight. Continued 245 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: success with the Airing It Out podcast and we look 246 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: forward to catching up again sometime down the road. Thank you, 247 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. We'll give back in the w columnarth 248 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: that we beat the Saints as this week. Trust and 249 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: believe it. TJ certainly sounds confident. Here's hoping the Bengals 250 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: back it up on Sunday. The Bengals Booth podcast is 251 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: brought to you by Kettering Health, the official healthcare provider 252 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: of the Bengals. With more than one hundred twenty care 253 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: facilities and fifteen hundred care providers, Kettering Health is committed 254 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: to guiding you to your best health. Visit kettering health 255 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: dot org to learn more. Six games ago, Zach Taylor 256 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: had the Bengals one defensive stop away from winning a 257 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. This past Monday, a significant portion of the 258 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: fan base question whether he should give up play calling 259 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: duties that comes with the territory when you go for 260 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: it on fourth and goal or try a couple of 261 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: gadget plays inside the five yard line that don't work. 262 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: This week, Joe Burrow was asked about the Bengals play calling. 263 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: Every play is designed to work if we execute it 264 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: the right way right and so you can talk all 265 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: you want about the play calling, but at the end 266 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: of the day, players have to go on execute the 267 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: play of the way it's supposed to be executed, and 268 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: if we do that, the play is going to work. 269 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: It's always tough in those situations because if you go 270 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: for it on fourth down, you get it, you look 271 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: like the smartest dude in the world. And you don't 272 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: get it, you know you're gonna take some heat. Those 273 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: are the gambles that we face every single week in 274 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: this profession. Didn't go our way this time. We've had 275 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: several that have. As I've said in a couple of 276 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: places this week, there is a statue dedicated to the 277 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: Philly Special outside of the stadium and phil Adelphia up 278 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: since it helped the Eagles win a Super Bowl, it 279 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: did not work out quite so well for the Bengals 280 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: in Baltimore. I asked my broadcast partner Dave Lapham about 281 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: play calling this week on the Bengals Game Plan show, 282 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: call is executed properly, you get what you were hoping 283 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: you were going to get. Look wise, everybody's like, oh 284 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: my god, genius. It's called at the perfect time, the 285 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: perfect play. Everybody goes crazy. So it's like the highest 286 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: highs when it doesn't work, where you have a Simon 287 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: Arrows up front and you have multiple defensive players penetrating 288 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: and that kills a shovel pass. If one penetrates, you're 289 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: in trouble. Three penetrated, you're done, and put a fork 290 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: in it. And it's like, well, that's the stupidest thing 291 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: in the world. Well, in hindsight, you wouldn't do it, 292 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: obviously if you knew that's the way it was going 293 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: to turn out. But there's two responsibilities. There's the play 294 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: call by the coach. Then there's the execution called by 295 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: the players. And probably, you know, you could argue it 296 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: might have been better plays to call. You can definitely 297 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: argue the execution had to be much better than it 298 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: was on the on the Philly Special, you just had 299 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: a great player make a great play. Marcus Peters drop 300 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: coverage on Jamar Chase, just drop coverage on him to 301 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: run at Tyler Boyd, and he cut on him so 302 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: quickly Tyler Boyd couldn't even react to throw the ball away. 303 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: You can throw it away. You're on a pocket. You're 304 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: basically the quarterback. You're the passer the ball in your hand, 305 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: but you know it's the reverse pitch back. You're on 306 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: a pocket. Throw it away, and now it's third down 307 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: from the two yard line instead of the fourteen. But 308 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: they get, you know, twelve back on third down on 309 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: the third down play and try to shovel pass. I 310 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: think two gadget plays in a four play sequence from 311 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: the two yard line is probably are actually three plays 312 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: because you weren't at the two yard line after the lost. 313 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: But two gadgets in three play sequence is probably a 314 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: little a little over the top. And if I'm an 315 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: offensive lineman in that situation, I don't come to the sideline, 316 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: you know, complaining about the play call. I come to 317 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: the sideline and find out what happened, why it didn't work. 318 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: And on top of that, even more so, I say 319 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: to my fellow offensive lineman, boys, we got to pick 320 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 1: it up first and goal to two. We don't run 321 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,959 Speaker 1: the ball one time. They have no confidence in us 322 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: up front. They will not put the owners the responsibility 323 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: on us getting pushed enough where we can gain two 324 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 1: yards in three snaps. You know, not even thinking about 325 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 1: the field goal potential. We have three downs to get 326 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: two yards and they're not running the ball one time. 327 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 1: We suck. We have to get better. We have to 328 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: do a better job up front. That's what I would do. 329 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: I would, I would, you know, call the group together 330 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: and say, we got to perform better. We have to 331 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: get the confidence of our coaches and our teammates, you know. 332 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: And that would be my reaction. I'd be upset that 333 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: they didn't feel that they could um call a run play. 334 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: I would I would feel like, what the what the 335 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: hell got to be able to run the ball one 336 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: time in that situation and obviously they didn't feel like 337 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: they could trust us to do it. That would be 338 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: a reaction I might have as an offensive lineman, and 339 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: I might ask the coaches about it a little bit, 340 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: like you know, and you know, they would probably go 341 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: back to the wall in this situation, third and one, 342 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: fourth and one, it didn't work out. They could probably 343 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: give you reasons why, and they the amount of time 344 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: that they put into situational football going on in short 345 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: yard and stuff is extraordinary. And it's not just they 346 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: don't just take a play out of the playbook, you know, 347 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: extraneously and say I'm gonna throw that, I'm throwing that 348 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: up against the here. It's it's all, it's all planned, 349 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 1: and you know it's it's unfortunate because that you go 350 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: on that a fifth team play drive, taking eight minutes 351 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 1: off the clock and going over eighty yards and you've 352 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: got squad dow shot of it. That is a killer. 353 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 1: That's a dagger. It's not only that you don't put 354 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: points on the board, but what it does to your emotion, 355 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 1: your psyche and all that stuff was Man, that's tough. 356 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 1: Or from Lap a bit later in the podcast. The 357 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: Bengals Booth Podcast is brought to you by Paycorps. More 358 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: than twenty nine thousand customers trust Paycorps to help them recruit, pay, engage, 359 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: and retain employees. Learn more at paycorp dot com. Sunday's 360 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: game is going to be a homecoming of sorts for 361 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: what seems like half of the team. Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, 362 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 1: Tyler Shelvin, and L. L. Collins played at LSU and 363 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: Chase is from the New Orleans area. Wide receiver Mike 364 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: Thomas played at Southern Miss, which is less than two 365 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: hours away, and then you have the former Saints on 366 00:19:56,200 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: the Bengals roster, Von Bell, Trey Hendrickson, and Eli Apple. 367 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 1: Apple is not going to get a warm reception on Sunday. 368 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: After playfully getting into it with Saints fans on social 369 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: media earlier this year, I talked to him this week. Eli. 370 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: The team is two and three. All three losses are 371 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 1: on walkoff field goals. What kind of emotional toll does 372 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 1: that take? It hurts hurt, especially as a defense. I 373 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 1: feel like we were responsible for those because we've got 374 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: to get off the field at the end of the 375 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 1: game and closes better goals back to the Super Bowl 376 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. If you want to win big games, 377 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: you gotta know how to close teams out. So that I 378 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: I saw it, that that met us for us. Despite that, 379 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: I think we can all say that the defense has 380 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: played great. You guys have not allowed an opposing offense 381 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: to score more than twenty points yet no touchdowns allowed 382 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: in the second half. What do you think the defense 383 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: is doing best. We're a good bendal break defense. I 384 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 1: feel like we've been great in a red zone, but 385 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: we still have areas where we can clean up communication wise, 386 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 1: So it's just got to concede the build. Personally, you 387 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: have not allowed a touchdown catch yet. How do you 388 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: feel about your level of play right now? It's been solid. 389 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: I think there's more opportunities to make plays. It's got 390 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: to be aggressive and no one I can pick those 391 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: chances to go get the ball. We're chatting with the Eliapple. 392 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: Describe your relationship with Luanna Rumo. It's a great relationship. 393 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: It's a great relationship. He's a great coach and well 394 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: no we go away back, So he's just one of 395 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: my favorite people to be around, you know, just a great, 396 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: genuine person. He has a lot of belief in you. 397 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: How has that impacted your time here in Cincinnati? Oh, 398 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: a big time, big time does a lot for my 399 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: confidence and from the believe in me gives me the 400 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: ability to go out and just kind of played my game. 401 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 1: I want to go back a couple of weeks to 402 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: the Thursday night game against Miami. Tyreek Hill issued a 403 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: verbal challenge before the game. You did not respond. You 404 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: let your play do the talking. He had one catch 405 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: for seven yards when you were in coverage. How did 406 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: you feel about it? It is what it is. I mean, 407 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: I'll take every week like that, like I ain't gotta 408 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: have a receiver, same thing. I just in my head, 409 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: I feel like that's how everybody you know views me. 410 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: So that's just how it is. You play with that 411 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: chipping your should regardless of who's saying whatever, who it is, 412 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: you just gotta wake up and know you gotta go dominate. 413 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: You didn't respond before the game, you didn't really respond 414 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: much after the game. Does that represent a change? No, 415 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: it's about It's about the team. I'm more over. You 416 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: know last year was what it was, But I know 417 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 1: this year is about for me as a unit doing 418 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: I can, you know, bring wins and that's all I'll 419 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: care about. This Sunday, the Saints come at you with 420 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 1: a receiving trio that's about as good as any in 421 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: the NFL. Former NFL Offensive Player of the Year, Michael 422 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: Thomas your former Buckeye's teammate Jarvis Landry, five time pro bowler, 423 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 1: Chris Olave, first round pick out of Ohio State. He's 424 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: off to a great start. Is this one of the 425 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: most formidable trios that you will face? No, certainly is 426 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 1: every week is a new challenge. So it's got to 427 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 1: get up and watch a film and be ready. You're 428 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: heading back to New Orleans. You spent a couple of 429 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: years there, played an NFC Championship game there. He got 430 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: into it a little bit with Saints fans back in January, 431 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: among other things. You took a shot at New Orleans food. 432 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 1: What kind of reception do you expect this week? It's 433 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: always loud there, so I expect it to be rock here, 434 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: and I just want to go in there with a 435 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: great mentality to go out and dominate it. I love 436 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 1: New Orleans food, just not your cup of tea. NA. 437 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 1: It's great. It's a great food if that's what you like. 438 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 1: They got everything, if you know, if you like that stuff. 439 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 1: You're two and three, but you're just a game out 440 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: of first place in the AFC North. How do you 441 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: look at the overall picture through five games? It's early. 442 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: It's early, man, so so I keep going, keep chopping, 443 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: appreciate your time as always, Thank you. Eli. Eli is 444 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: a key member of a Bengals defense that is holding 445 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: opposing quarterbacks to a seventy two point one passer rating 446 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: that's fourth best in the NFL behind Buffalo Philadelphia. In 447 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: San Francisco, this week's opponent, New Orleans is allowing a 448 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 1: passer rating of ninety one point five. Now let's take 449 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: a look at the injury factor this week. Bengals left 450 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: tackle Jonah Williams had to be helped off the field 451 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: in the second quarter last Sunday night, but came back 452 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 1: and played well in the second half. Jonah didn't practice 453 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 1: on Wednesday, but hopes to play on Sunday. That's what 454 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 1: I'm working for, you know. I dislocated my kneecap. So 455 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: it's like a matter of trying to a just take 456 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: it day by day and I'm intreatment all the time, 457 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: just trying to get it feeling good. So I knew 458 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: on Sunday, you know how sore was it online day? 459 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: It's pretty rough. Yeah, it's pretty rough. Take over for sure. Yeah. 460 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: I mean on Sunday night football and a divisional opponent 461 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: on the road. Like I just I felt like it 462 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: had to be out there and it was non contacts 463 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: buckled on me planning my foote weird kneecap slipped to 464 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: the side of my leg came back and it felt 465 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: like buckley and which is usually a bad sign. But 466 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: when the doctor was feeling it and said all them 467 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: like important ligaments felt strong. Then I you know, that 468 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 1: was a relief. So after that, it was just trying to, 469 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: you know, see if I could play, and I felt 470 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: like I could, and so that's what I did. Two 471 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 1: former offensive lineman Dave Lapham and Joe Walter can relate. 472 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: Fortunately for him, it dislocated, and that's not fortunate, but 473 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: I mean it could have been worried if dislocated and 474 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: came back in sublocks that came back in, so it 475 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: didn't do any damage collateral damage to ligaments, tendons and 476 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: all that. And have you ever dislocated anything. I just 477 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: located my elbow and we're playing up in Green Bay 478 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: and I go to cut off of big Mike McCoy, 479 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: this big defensive tackle, a big load, and I'm scrambling 480 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: and he falls on my arm and I got my 481 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: him planted and so he just bends my arm the 482 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 1: wrong way and pull him. It's just locates and I'm 483 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: like on the ground, like and I can't get it 484 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: to go back in. You know, it didn't sublos. So 485 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: they come out and they grab my thumb and pinky 486 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: and they're like, we're gonna reduce it, you know, and 487 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: they snapping the thumb and pinking. It doesn't go back. 488 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, and they said, give us one more shot. 489 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: I say, that's it. One more shot, and and they 490 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: got it to go back in to go to the 491 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: sideline and they tape it up like a cast, you know, 492 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: a sixty degree angle. Tiger comes up to me. You're playing, 493 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: ain't you, I said, Tiger. I hadn't really thought about 494 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: it yet. Man, I just gotta, you know, repaired here. 495 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: I gotta put back and play, I said, I'm not 496 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: sure the way I gotta. I can't get in the 497 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: stance and playing right guard. I'm not sure. Put your 498 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: left hand down, damn it, you're playing. It puts me 499 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: right back in there. But you're back up. That bad 500 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: couldn't have gone I know, I know. It's it's like 501 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 1: he was. He was out there for a couple of 502 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: three plays, and what's going very well. Tiger ran He 503 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: ran me out there pretty quick, and it's it's like, 504 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: but that's the key is if it doesn't start mine, uh, 505 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: you know, stuck in the soft tissue or whatever, and 506 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 1: did a little damage to that soft tissue stuff so 507 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: it wouldn't sub block's back. You know, his slid I 508 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: guess you know, you don't want it to happen for sure. 509 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: And the thing is that they told me we're gonna 510 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: have to tape it up the rest of the year now, 511 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 1: because you know, once it happens, it's gonna it's gonna 512 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: dislocate easier. You know, if you're if you're in protect 513 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: like I'm I'm trying to pass block like a one 514 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: armed paperhanger. I'm trying to hit my record in the 515 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: middle of the chest with one end right, and he's 516 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 1: like just zering in on the one bad wing and 517 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: means just coming on that side, you know. And so 518 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: it's like if you if I tried to jam, it 519 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: might have dislocated on And so that's, Um, I admire 520 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: the guy for doing what he did, and you know, 521 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: going in there and sucking it up. Really, you know, 522 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: because you're talking, you're talking about the foundation your legs. 523 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: I mean, that's vitally important. I mean, like that's the 524 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: first thing. Your hands and arms the second thing. But 525 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 1: that is number one. And um, he still looked like 526 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: his book was pretty damn good. I mean, he's very 527 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: aclemic kid out about that. Before we get to the 528 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: Saints injuries and they are numerous. We remind you that 529 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth podcast is presented by Alta Fiber future 530 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:17,479 Speaker 1: proof fiber Internet capable of delivering multi gigabit speeds designed 531 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: to take your home, business, and community to a new level. 532 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: Elevate your connection with all Ta Fiber. On Wednesday, the 533 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 1: following players did not practice for New Orleans due to injuries. 534 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: Their top three receivers Michael Thomas, Chris o'lave and Jarvis Landry, 535 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: along with four time Pro Bowl cornerback Marshawn Lattimore. Quarterback 536 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: Jamis Winston, who missed the last two games with backend 537 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: ankle injuries, was listed as a limited participant. We discussed 538 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: the Saints injuries with their radio voice, My Costs, when 539 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: he joined us on the Bengals Game Plan Show, but 540 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: we started out by getting his thoughts on the Saints 541 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: Swiss army knife Taysom Hill. Last week, the former by 542 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: U quarterback rushed for one hundred and twelve yards and 543 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: three touchdowns through a twenty two yard touchdown pass, returned 544 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: three kickoffs in place of the injured Deontay Hardy, and 545 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: even recovered a fumble on the punt coverage team. On 546 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: a fake punt by Seattle. I thought one of the 547 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: best lines that Tayson had was postgame when they were 548 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: talking about him doing different things, and he just said, 549 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: you know, I just work here, and that's really what 550 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: he did, from returning kicks to recovering a fumble. I 551 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,719 Speaker 1: guess the biggest chance for us was that we had 552 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: We had not seen him throw, we had not seen 553 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: him really hand off much when he does his QP 554 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: power right or left, which he did to Kamara which 555 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: picked up a first down, and then of course the 556 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: pass and just running the ball in general. He has 557 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: been so effective, but now there's a finally, there's kind 558 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: of this new wrinkle where you really don't know what 559 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: he's going to do back there, and so it was. 560 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: It was truly amazing, especially when he started returning kick 561 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: it off, because this is not a guy who is 562 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: not unfamiliar with the injury category. He has spent most 563 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: of his college career and pro career running into walls 564 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: and continues to do so. It was it was an 565 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: extraordinary performance. He's a very humble, genuinely nice person who's just, 566 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: you say, lays it out there. His body comes in 567 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: like sixth of where it counts on the list. So 568 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: Hill has got a sixty yard touchdown run one of 569 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: his five touchdowns, tied for fourth most in the NFL rushing. 570 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: And then on the flip side of it, of his 571 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: twenty one carries, four are on third and one and 572 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: he's converted every one of them. So they'll go to 573 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: him to convert the short stuff, he'll bust the long stuff. 574 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: I mean, this, this guy is crazy. We were just 575 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: talking earlier about the big play of the explosives. He's 576 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: got a sixty yard touchdown run. You have four different 577 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: receivers that have a reception of forty yards or more, 578 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: but you've given up a sixty seven yard touchdown run, 579 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: a sixty seven yard touchdown pass, a sixty eight yard 580 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: return on an interception. I mean, how many explosives have 581 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: the opponents gotten. You've got a lot of explosives going 582 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: offensively for the Saints. Hasn't been equally as big of 583 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: an explosion by the opponent. Mostly that came in the 584 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. Clearly last week was the worst 585 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: that it has been. I think it was six explosives 586 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: of thirty two or more and three of them were touchdowns. 587 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: Blockett had a forty and a thirty two yarder, so 588 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: last week was kind of the worst display of that. 589 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: The Saints have been pretty consistent. They've get a couple 590 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: of really it's it's been taste them, taste them out 591 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: of fifty seven yard touchdown run earlier this year, and 592 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: then the sixty yarder, the two, eight and nine yard 593 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: so a lot of the explosives other than Cambarts fifty 594 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: four yarder, they haven't been in bunches. They've been just 595 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: kind of here and there. And they've also been behind. 596 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: They've been behind every game except for one where they 597 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: led Tampa three nothing at halftime. So they've they've thrown 598 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: the ball more and lends itself to a few more 599 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: bigger players. Plus twenty, But you're right about the problem. 600 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: You can have all the plus twenties you want, but 601 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: if you give up an equal amount of twenty pluses, 602 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: you're in trouble. And we saw that last week with Seattle. 603 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: The radio voice of the Saints, Mike Hassi, is our guest. 604 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: Jamis Winston has missed the last couple of games with 605 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: back and ankle injuries. I guess he was limited in 606 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: practice today. The Red rifle. Andy Dalton has started in 607 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: his place, led the team to a victory last week. 608 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: What's your best guess, Mike, who do you think will 609 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: be the starting quarterback on Sunday? If I'm guessing and 610 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: that's clearly what it is, I would say that's the 611 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: Saint stick with Andy Dalton. He's doing exactly what this 612 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 1: offense needs him to do, playing not conservative, but just 613 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: taking what the defense gives him. Jamis has not practiced 614 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,479 Speaker 1: in two full weeks, didn't practice in London, didn't practice 615 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: last week. Limited again today. I just would he could, 616 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: but I would think that will learn a little bit 617 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: more this week. If he doesn't really practice tomorrow or Friday, 618 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: he might build full Friday. But if he's limited again tomorrow. 619 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: The way Dalton has played, he's had the one interception 620 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: in the one fumble, I would be surprised if they 621 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: went with Jamis unless he was just back full steam 622 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: ahead tomorrow and himself was not a concernment. If you 623 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: asked me right now, whatever day this is Wednesday, I 624 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: would say it'd be Andy Dalton. And he's got a 625 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: history of not screwing it up. You know, there's no question, 626 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: And I look at Winston. He's got four touchdowns, five interceptions, 627 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: and all of them have occurred in the fourth quarter. 628 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: The good and the bad involved. Yeah, I mean it's crazy. 629 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,399 Speaker 1: Um what about the game is brutal for him? Yeah? Yeah. 630 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: On defense, obviously, Cam Jordan is a star, a superstar. 631 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: But Davenport on the other side, watching a little bit, 632 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 1: he's impressed me. This kid. This kid's a legit player. 633 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: And and but the guy that has been unbelievable to 634 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:35,280 Speaker 1: watch Warner Every every run, this guy's making the tackle. 635 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: He wears number twenty. What's the history of that that 636 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: he's started at some level as a member of the secondary. 637 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: I know he went to Ohio State, but I mean, 638 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,240 Speaker 1: every run play, this guy is involved in making the stop. 639 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: He's unbelievable. He's a tackling machine. He has been, and 640 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 1: I will say it's a surprise. He was his second 641 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: round pick, but he didn't he was kind of banked 642 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: up and we didn't his team at all really in 643 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 1: training camp. So this has been the Blosian since the 644 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: start of the season. And he's got Damario Davis beside him. 645 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,479 Speaker 1: That helps a great deal. But he has just he's 646 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: just been wherever the ball has been. He makes the 647 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: right choice, makes the right lane, great in coverage, forces fumbles. 648 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: You're right, he has been. I mean with forty seven 649 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: tackles and most of them solo tackles. He's been a machine. Now, 650 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 1: after you said, wow, did you guys see this coming, 651 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,720 Speaker 1: the answer to be no. He had a pretty solid 652 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: rookie year, but because we didn't see much in training camp. 653 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 1: But it'd be hard to expect the explosion that we've seen. 654 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,800 Speaker 1: A concerning the Saints have, of course, is not Pete. 655 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: It's behind Pete and how they will cover. You know 656 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: your receivers, We're not. We're sure about Latimore to be 657 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: surprised if he played Paulson, Adivo, Marcus May j T. 658 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: Gray all limited. That's a pretty banged up defensive secondary 659 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: right an aperture Warner has been exemplary thus far. The 660 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: voice of the Saints, Mike Hassi, is our guests. There's 661 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 1: my final question, Mike. The Dome is a notoriously difficult 662 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: place for opposing teams to play, considering the Burrow Chase 663 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: Lsu connection and to a lesser extent, Lele Collins. Will 664 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: it be less hostile than usual for the Bengals, I 665 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: think it'll be less hostile early, very early, but once 666 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: they kind of get into the game, I don't it 667 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: was twenty there's a twenty nineteen season, the twenty twenty 668 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 1: championship game. LSU fans are a big part of Saint 669 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,919 Speaker 1: Sans and Saints LSU, and I there's I think it'll 670 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:42,320 Speaker 1: be a small factor early, but after that it'll be 671 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: loud and anti borrow and anti gas. At least in 672 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: my mind, just because of how important it is for 673 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: this football team, they'll pay their respects early. But other 674 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: than that, when this game kicks off with teams two 675 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: and three Saints trying to get the Saints plays so 676 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 1: poorly at home, I think the crowd will will I 677 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 1: won't say they won't turn, but they'll they'll be where 678 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:12,280 Speaker 1: they need to be. That's black and Gold. Faith. Appreciate 679 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: your time. Thanks for carbon time for us. You've been outstanding. 680 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: And my question is injuring the you mentioned injury and 681 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,240 Speaker 1: the secondary beaten up. I'm looking at the injury report. 682 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 1: Seven guys didn't practice, seven more limited, and the wide 683 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: receiver corps seems to be, you know, decimated a little 684 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,240 Speaker 1: bit by injury as well. Is it is it equal 685 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,800 Speaker 1: to which is the most concerned wide receiver injury factor 686 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 1: or back end in the secondary injury factor. Well, I 687 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: think someone told the Saints that there's some type of 688 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: prize for the number of people on your Wednesday injury 689 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: report because it grows from eleven the twelve it's fourteen now. 690 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 1: To me, the bigger concern would be secondary. I think 691 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 1: Jarvis Landry was very close to playing last week, I think, 692 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 1: but Thomas is getting much closer. I don't think we'll 693 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 1: see Deontay Hardy, but in the secondary, I'll be surprised 694 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 1: about Lattimore. I think the bigger concern is the secondary 695 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:16,399 Speaker 1: right now because somewhat because of Jamar Chase and Mike 696 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,839 Speaker 1: Thomas and Tyler Boyd and Te Higgins. So I think 697 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 1: there's more concerned in the secondary because these receivers. Jarvis 698 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: didn't play lest week, Michael didn't play last week. We 699 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: feel like they're closer to being ready, whereas I'm not 700 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 1: quite sure because some of the secondary injuries are newer, 701 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: and not having a Lattimore and not having we did 702 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 1: that Marcus May last week, it puts a lot of 703 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: pressure on that on those those safeties when you when 704 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 1: they're they're starters. Now you're talking about backup, so I 705 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 1: would say the secondary is a bigger concern. Thanks to 706 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 1: Mike cous And, here's an invitation to join us at 707 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 1: the Wings and Rings location and Crest Few Hills, Kentucky 708 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: for the Bengals pep Rally show this Friday from three 709 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: to six. 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