1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,880 Speaker 1: I thought I was going to do one show today, 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: and then I started telling one story. Then people said 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: tell another, and they said tell another. People are emailing me, 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: people are tweeting me and texting me saying, man, you 5 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: should write a book about some of these stories. And 6 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: I said, I can't because I can't tell all my 7 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: stories or I would be blackballed from this industry. But 8 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: there is someone who is a longtime cafe listener, longtime 9 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: friend of mine, and I will use his real name. 10 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: He may not use the real name of some of 11 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: the people in those in these mutual stories that we have, 12 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: but his name is Larry Pipkin. He is He is 13 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: a long time i'll say, entertainment bodyguard, former marine, former 14 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: law enforcement. Did I get that right? LP? Okay, many 15 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: years ago we worked together at Virgin Records and I 16 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: was working in promotions and you were working security. Why 17 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: did Virgin Records slash New Tribe rap a lot? Why 18 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:04,559 Speaker 1: why do we have armed security every single day? Well, 19 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: actually started with um I won't get into details of group, so, 20 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: but it started with the group that did a tour 21 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: overseas and the promoters they're the ones that got paid. 22 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: And somehow people that thought they should have got paid, 23 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: thought we were the ones that got paid me in 24 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: the label, and well that wasn't true. So, you know, 25 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: we had some serious death threats at the label, and 26 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: before I came on board, that came in there and 27 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: started flexing, and so that's why, that's why I got 28 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: on board. And we had all those off city cops 29 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: all the time, right, but there was a legitimate threat 30 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: of violence at the label every single day. You think 31 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: that was a fair, fair statement. Yeah, I would definitely 32 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: say that. And even artists management or art artists fling 33 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: on people, you know, they had they'd come up threatening, 34 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: you know, empty threats that still you never knew what 35 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: they were going to do. Yeah, I was definitely. Yeah, 36 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: I was telling the story and it slipped out of 37 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: my mouth, so I'm not going to take it back now. 38 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: But I was telling the story how I was talking 39 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: to Scarface and I pissed him off and he threatened 40 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: my life, and I said, for me, it's like that's Tuesday, 41 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: our job. Do you remember when we were working right right? 42 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: You know, but but that's a whole other story. But 43 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: do you remember the time in which we had the 44 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: IT person who got fired you know which story I'm 45 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: getting ready to tell. The it person got fired from 46 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: Vision Records one day and I remember his name, but 47 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 1: I'm not going to say it obviously, And the moment 48 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: that he got fired, he said, I'm going to set 49 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: something to the fact of I'm going to get a 50 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: gun and come back and shoot up the place. Set that. 51 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: And this was late nineties, before we had Columbine or 52 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: anything like that, so the idea of a workplace shooting 53 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: was more relegated to just the post office. But I 54 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: remember after he said that, they cleared out the whole 55 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: the whole building and everybody was running out of there. 56 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: What is your memory of that day? Well, my recollection 57 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: is that he had been a security guard and he 58 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: had an armored card driver and he got involved in 59 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: something that was crazy, which I won't get into details with, 60 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 1: but he got retrained to be an it person. So 61 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 1: when he came on board Virgin him and I kind 62 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: of hit at an offend. He started talking about weapons 63 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: and all the weapons that he had, and he had 64 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: a pretty vast knowledge of weapons being a civilian, so 65 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: I kind of had some respectful as knowledge. So when 66 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: he said something I hate I'm coming back. You know, 67 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: he took him very seriously. You know, I told other 68 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: people at Virgin and advised him to what I knew 69 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: of this guy in Yeah, it turned it to being 70 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: a serious threat or something to take serious. And from 71 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: just an employee, right, that was an employee, you know. 72 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: That's how That's how crazy it was in the business 73 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: back then. And I was trying to convey to CAFI 74 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: listeners that the music business has changed so much, but 75 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: it was so what I call footloose and fancy free, 76 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: the stuff that we were doing, the craziness, the wild 77 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: things which were going on in the office. I was 78 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: telling them about hanging out with Redman and the Loonies 79 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: and performing with them, and that was not odd in 80 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: any way. As an employee, the stuff, and I was 81 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: telling the stories about how we were having fun with 82 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: the expenses, how record labels were paying for this, that 83 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: and the other, the Bunny ranch for radio programmers. That 84 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: was how it was done everywhere. It wasn't just where 85 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: we are, But that's how and the reason I got here. 86 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: I didn't say it explicitly. The news broke and our 87 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: news person Brian Bruman has talked about how Tory Lanes 88 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: was found guilty of shoot maybe the stallion um, I 89 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: don't know, I guess accidentally whatever, But gun play during 90 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: that time when we were in the industry, and you're 91 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: still in it to a certain degree, I won't get 92 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: into that. But when we were in it, because of 93 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: the East Coast West coast hip hop rivalry, the threat 94 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: of gun violence was ever present every single day. And 95 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: you know, we had I think our biggest art was 96 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: um the guys from LA wanted to know why they 97 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: couldn't get signed to an LA vailable We were, you know, 98 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: messing with Nortel Bay area, Milton jas Hodtown was what 99 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: was seed in the tribe and not so that wasn't 100 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: that wasn't totally separate threat. And you know just as 101 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 1: well as I do that record deals were made just 102 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,679 Speaker 1: to cool people down when there was really no record 103 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 1: to be made. Right. It was a payoff. It was 104 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: a payoff to go away, basically it was. And you know, 105 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: every time we'd be out and out and doing our thing, 106 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: you know, need to be doing whatever venue where we're 107 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: here in LA you always be, you know, keep our 108 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: head on a swivel, you know. And you know, also 109 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: very rare that I would ever go by myself. I'd 110 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: always have a partner or somebody that would go with us. Um, 111 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: because it was just it was the wild. It was 112 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: the wild wild West. As they say back then, No 113 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: explain your explain, I should say, describe yourself before we 114 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: go to break because people may not know you are 115 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: a physically imposing individual. Well, thank you, but that's not 116 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: so true. Now, well give us give us your your 117 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: your your statistics, in your in your you know your 118 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: stats were quick. Well back then, I well, I still 119 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: you know, I'm sixty three and I waited back then, 120 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 1: I waited about two eighty um, and I was just 121 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: comfortable being around, you know, the urban element, you know. 122 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: In otherwise, you're not a brother, No I am. I 123 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: am a cracker as you. You said that. I didn't 124 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: say that. You said that. That's what I using the 125 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: N word like you know everybody does. I used to LP. 126 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: Can you hang around for one more segment so we 127 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: can get all these stories out. I appreciated my friend 128 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: Larry Pitkin, my friend for more than thirty years. Were 129 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: used to work in the music industry together. We're just 130 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: telling some stories because you ask for us to tell 131 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: more music stories. So that's what we're gonna do. KF 132 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: I am six forty life everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 133 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: I'm speaking with Larry Pitkin, a longtime friend, former colleague 134 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: when I worked in the music industry. We're telling some 135 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: of the stories of the ridiculousness that we experienced on 136 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: a daily basis. And it's kind of an adjunct running 137 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: adjacent to the news of Tory Lane's being found guilty 138 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: of shooting rapper making the Stallion, and people were asking 139 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: me to tell me tell more of my stories, and 140 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: I said, well, this is an opportunity to do it. 141 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: And LP, as we call him, he's former marine. He 142 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: doesn't a lot of work with American Legion post forty 143 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: three in Hollywood. Your son's a marine. You have a 144 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: wealth of experiences former law enforcement and but but we 145 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: connected when we were both working at Virgin Records and 146 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: I had someone tweet me talking asked me to talk 147 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: about some of the artists that we had worked with. 148 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: And I think the best time that I had in 149 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: my music industry days was when I was working at 150 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: Virgin Records and we were working the Velvet Rope tour 151 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: with Janet Jackson. Oh yeah, what are your memories of 152 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: that time? Well, I don't really have a lot of 153 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: memories of the Villa Rope tour sort of speed because 154 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: they didn't really meet me on that tour. Not a 155 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: lot of threats, but uh, you know, sometimes you'd not 156 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 1: come to work and have to say, look at where 157 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 1: I'm at. You know, this just some regular guy off 158 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: the street and Harry and major record label and who 159 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: knows who you're going to run into anything at the label, 160 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: you know. And I'll tell you a quick story when 161 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: myself and was born, who was in the Marine Corps 162 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: when he was born. Uh, you know, people thought my 163 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 1: wife was a celebrity at the hospital because she was 164 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: getting all these flowers and stuff from you know, our 165 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: A list talent. Of course, you know, it wasn't necessarily 166 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: from them, you know, their their assistance that hey, can 167 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: we send our security guy these flowers or whatever. So 168 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: that was the kind of treatment that we gotten, and 169 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: that was the exposure that we got. And we never 170 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: knew who you were going to be with whenever, who's 171 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: in needing to go on a road with them or 172 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: do whatever they needed to do. So it was it 173 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: was quite a ride back then. I know, you've had 174 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: some incidents where you had some scrapes and some situations 175 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: over the years. What do you think that you're allowed 176 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: to tell was one of the most complicated or dangerous 177 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: ones that you got in. You got me off guard 178 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 1: on this one that you're allowed to tell. I know, well, 179 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: I mean I think I'm allowed to tell any one 180 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: of them. Well, I mean, they tried to kill my partner. 181 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: I won't say who, but they tried to kill my 182 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: partner when we were in Miami for how can I 183 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: be down? And that's a music industry convention, so some 184 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: people now go ahead, Yeah, and you know, myself and 185 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: my partner like the only white guys all in Miami 186 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 1: that that weekend. Um, But fortunately I had a pretty 187 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: decent meditation. People knew who I was. They knew I 188 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 1: was a stand up guy, and you know I wasn't 189 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't disrespect folks or anything. But on 190 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: this particular night, you know, we left um a showcase 191 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: and it was me and mister B and um. Mister 192 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: B he always had this like sixth sense of like, hey, 193 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: something's gonna go crazy, Something's gonna go crazy, And so 194 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 1: I'd send my partner to go get the car and 195 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: pull it up. They missed. Be's like, hey, you know, 196 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 1: we need to we need to go with him. So 197 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: we were just maybe a few feet behind them, and 198 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: my partner's going to go out on the street to 199 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,719 Speaker 1: get into the car, and all of a sudden, I know, 200 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 1: it comes as huge white fifteen passenger van tries to 201 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:06,079 Speaker 1: run them over and so leftly my partner got out 202 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: of the way and I ran up and saw who 203 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: it was and I knew them and they knew me, 204 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 1: and I was surprised that was that person to try 205 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 1: to kill my partner. And I was like, hey, look, 206 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: you know, like, what's the one? Well, they weren't kind 207 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: words back and forth, and um, I just don't know. 208 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: You guys, get you got to get out of town 209 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: because I'm calling the police and I'm found report, you know, 210 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: thread on a police officer. And of course I wouldn't 211 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: do that because I knew where my bread was buttered. 212 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: But still they didn't know. So that was a that 213 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: was a very you know, sketchy weekend. And you never 214 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: knew who was going to turn coat on me. Never 215 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: never knew we'd be At one time, we were in Oakland, 216 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: and there was all these threads, and you know, we 217 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: were kind of taking them serious, and uh, you know, 218 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: I wanted us to all the bullets who vested up, 219 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: and mister Beebles again said, hey man, you can't. We 220 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: can't roll like that. You can't roll like that because 221 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: then we'll look soft. So then, you know, here I 222 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 1: to get out there doing my thing. And fortunately by 223 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: that time, I think we had a pretty decent reputation. 224 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: Um And so to shut up our van at night 225 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 1: when no one was in it, so that shows you 226 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: the level of people we were dealing with. So after 227 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: saying that, I hope I have to walk around LA 228 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: with my head on a so something to come to 229 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: hanger and feel my cap with something. But you know, look, 230 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: but see that was a daily occurrence. We laugh about 231 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: it now, and actually we laughed about it then, but 232 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: the danger was real. I mean, just for employees. We 233 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: would go out on a tour with the artists, and 234 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: if you were seeing with the artists, you were assumed 235 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: to be with the artist and whatever baggage he or 236 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: she had, So you might have caught something just because 237 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: you were hanging with oneself. Yeah, you catch a case, 238 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: so to speak, to us by hanging on its ow 239 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: and so oh you and that cruise right, we're gonna 240 00:12:55,559 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna get you, and then um, you know him. Luckily, 241 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: it was kind of like, hey, if if we let 242 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: the cat out the bag and kind of talk to 243 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: everybody and let everybody know where we were at, where 244 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: they were at, um, you know, it would kind of 245 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: tone it down. And nowadays, I don't know, I think 246 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: it's a little bit more crazy nowadays. I mean maybe 247 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: not necessarily the way the labels are rent today, but 248 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: if we were in the game now with the way 249 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: holes think now on the outside, yeah, I think it'd 250 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 1: be a little bit more dangerous. But you're still in 251 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: entertainment security on a certain level, so you're still touching 252 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: this element, aren't you. Yeah. Well, fortunately, because you know, 253 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: I've been doing it so long, I'm on a level 254 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: that's you know, I don't get easy gritty, and but yeah, 255 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: you know, I'm definitely in the mix as far as 256 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: what's going on, people calling me, telling me what's going on, 257 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: and it gets that inside on some things. There's some 258 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: things that happened in the past where you and I 259 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: talked about, Um, I don't want to get into it. 260 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: But you know, I've shared your information that I've been 261 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: told and because you know, I'm still people still call 262 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: them this, People say, hey, how people you know? Did 263 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: you know this? Or hey did you know? I want 264 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 1: to let you know about that? So h yeah, I 265 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: mean there's still there's still I think they'll be craziness 266 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: in the entertainment business forever because you know, there's there's 267 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: casts that don't think they got there there to do 268 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: and they're going to always want to try to get 269 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: it one way or the other. Well, before I let 270 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: you go, I think I have an obligation to ask 271 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: you and also highlight once again, how are you doing 272 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: such marvelous work with American Legion post forty three? Well, 273 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: thank you. What's going on right now? Do you have 274 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: any events coming out? Well, you know what, Um, you 275 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: just got to look at the website or we don't 276 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: know anything that's um perfect to come up right away 277 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: under tonight. I think we have karaoke nights. So but 278 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: you know, the American Legion is the family that I 279 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: didn't know I had, and um, you know, it's a 280 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: bunch of veterans that we get together and we kind 281 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: of like watch each other six and you know, you'll 282 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: just be sitting at home one day and one of 283 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: the guys from a regional call you say, hey, I'll 284 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: see how you doing. That's type of stuff that you 285 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: know veterans, uh, you know, we need that type of support. 286 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: No matter how successful or unsuccessful you are. It's always 287 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: good to hear from a fellow veteran that can relate 288 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: to what you've gone through and what you've experienced and 289 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: what you've done. I remember I met your son before 290 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: he enlisted. How's he doing it. He's actually did five 291 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: years in the Marine Corps and he's out and he 292 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: got a real fat job. He's going to start next month. 293 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to jinx until it, but he already 294 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: got the welcome later and all. And he's really, you know, 295 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: he's going to smoke out of dant legs, so to speak. Well, 296 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: my brother, my friend, I miss you. I love you. 297 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: You know we look, I haven't been in your physical 298 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: presence in a while. You got to come up to 299 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: Cafe I again and come see me. We need to 300 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,359 Speaker 1: just get a bite to eat or something and reminisce 301 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: and tell the stories that we can't tell on the radio. 302 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: My goodness. Well you know, I'm sure those ain't all 303 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: we could be taken tels and good stuff. Though, I'll 304 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: be in touch nonetheless, my friend. All right, now we 305 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: talk all the time text, so I got it. Yeah, 306 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: we'll talk soon. All right. This is the Johnny Ken Show. 307 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: Mo Kelly here k if I am six forty. We're 308 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Hope you enjoyed that 309 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: conversation with my friend LP. Larry Pitkin, a friend of 310 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: some thirty years. Work together in the music industry. So 311 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: many great stories. And someone told me long ago, as 312 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: we get older, the only thing that we can truly 313 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: claim as our own are our stories. No one else 314 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: can tell them, no one else can really have them. 315 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: They are our own. And so I appreciate LP and 316 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: some of the shared stories that we have, and we 317 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: could share some of them with you, but we're gonna 318 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: move on now. Producer Dana, can you hear me? I 319 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: know I can't see you, Yes, I need I need 320 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: you to close your computer, your laptop, Eric, you can 321 00:16:53,720 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: see her. Make sure that she doesn't cheat. Okay, I'm curious. 322 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: We're different generations, and you're probably the newest person in 323 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: this crew when it comes to radio, and I want 324 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: to know how much you know about this industry in 325 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: which you work. And also, since you are a veteran 326 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: putting that business out there, you probably are pretty good 327 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: with abbreviations in certain lingo. So I'm gonna put you 328 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: on the spot. Okay, without googling. Do you know the following? 329 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 1: And I want to put your mind in a specific place. 330 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: Radio and TV, AM and FM. What does AM and 331 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: FM stand for? Is KF I AM six forty? Geez, 332 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: let's see amplified. Don't look at me, Okay, Eric, you 333 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: got to get a buzzer for her or something. You 334 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: give up? You know, I saw this before. I just 335 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: it's not popping up right now. Okay. Yeah. I don't 336 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: expect the average individual who's around thirty years older or 337 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 1: younger than thirty to know this because when you say 338 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: AM sixty, you may not know to what that means. 339 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: But AM is amplitude modulation. And if you go to 340 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: the FM band, do you know what that might mean? No, 341 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: frequency modulation. So working in radio, you should know that. 342 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: And that's how sound is process and radio signals process. 343 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: But you can look that up. But I'm gonna bring 344 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: it now to your generation. If I said GSM, you 345 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: know what that stands for? GM no Global Global System 346 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: for Mobile communications. So let's now combine it. We're gonna 347 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:02,719 Speaker 1: have radio and Wi Fi and saddle I TV. Do 348 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: you know what PM stands for? Within that context and signals? 349 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: Come on, mom, you gotta know these things. Working in 350 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: radio or not, but I think you should know them. 351 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: It's phase modulation. That's for Wi Fi, GSM and satellite television. 352 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: You're working in entertainment, so you gotta know. AM is 353 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: amplitude modulation. FM is frequency modulation, GSM is Global System 354 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: for Mobile communications, and PM is phase modulation. Okay, let's 355 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: go to UM. If I said KF, I am six forty, 356 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: you understand those are call letters, right? KFI? Right? Okay? 357 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 1: If I said W H U R those are call letters? Right? Yes? 358 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 1: Why do some stations have K and why do some 359 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: stations have W? Or? Is it just no rhyme or reason? Eric? 360 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: I think you know I do. Okay, I know Brian 361 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: Brumin knows. I'm not gonna ask him. He would be 362 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: fired if he didn't know. Dana any guests, she is 363 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: hating my ass right about it? Can I phone a friend? Yeah? 364 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: Who are you going to phone? Eric? Yes, go ahead 365 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: of Eric. The K is for west of the Mississippi 366 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: and the W is for east of the Mississippi. That 367 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: is correct. That's why we have K over here and 368 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: W over there. Makes sense, Dana, totally. Okay. Let's go 369 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: to time of day and I don't know if Eric 370 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: may know this. This is a little more obscure. If 371 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 1: I said AM and PM, as in like six AM 372 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 1: or six pm. What does the AM stand for and 373 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: what does the PM stand for? I got nothing. Brian 374 00:20:58,200 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: is over there googling. I can tell. I can marches 375 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: eyes going back and forth. He's reading AM. I could. 376 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: I could hear him like typing. The whole thing is 377 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: called not googling. But I know, come on, no nothing 378 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 1: nobody UM ANTI meridian and post me radio. That's correct. 379 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: Did you hear that, Dame? Did? Okay? I knew that one. 380 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 1: But do you know what it means? Meridian's like noon 381 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: mid day, ANTI SM before PM, post as an after. 382 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: I thought you were talking about the primary idian there 383 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: No meridi? Um? Oh see, completely different words. Yeah, merid 384 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: d M I E M if I'm not mistaken. Um Okay, 385 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: here's another. Now you better get this one, Dana, you 386 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:48,239 Speaker 1: better get it. Time of day PST as opposed to 387 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: p DT, six am PST as opposed to six am PDT. 388 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 1: What is the PST and PDT stand for? So PST 389 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: Pacific Pacific standard time, right, correct? And then PDT. I've 390 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 1: seen that before, I hope. So. Um, if it's not 391 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: standard time, then what must it be? Daylight? Yes? Yes, okay, 392 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 1: so that we don't have a prize to give you. Okay, 393 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 1: last one, last one. This should be relatively simple and 394 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: you are a learned individual, so this should not be difficult. 395 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 1: I'm setting you up for failure. Time in history BC 396 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: versus a D. But does BC standard christ You know 397 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: we are getting close to Christmas? Youd better know that 398 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: ad after death? No what it's it's actually Latin? Oh no, 399 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 1: guess Eric, you want to I'm staying out of this one, okay, 400 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: Brian Domina is Yeah, in the time of our Lord, 401 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: in the year of our Lord. Ah, So where did 402 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: I hear after death from someone who didn't know when 403 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: they just made it up? Because a lot of people 404 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: say that, and it's not bad because it's not like 405 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: thirty three years later. You know, Christ was allegedly thirty 406 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: three years old. You know, no, no, it's so there 407 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: you go, so hopefully you learn something today. Dana working 408 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 1: in UM, in radio, all that stuff you should know, 409 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 1: you should know, especially working in radio news. She is 410 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: so disgusted with me right now. I can hear it 411 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: in her voice. I can't even see her face. She 412 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: is rolling her eyes so loud. I hear just squeaking 413 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: against her eyelids. Okay, that didn't work out. If I 414 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: am six forty frelive everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, I 415 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: was having some fun with Dana. But I'm a big proponent, 416 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: especially as people are young or newer in their careers, 417 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: that they learned something more than just the job that 418 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: they have. Some jobs are really important and some jobs 419 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: are less important to the overall growth of someone. But 420 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: I do think each stop serves a purpose, hopefully and 421 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: pushes you on to the next stop. But we've all 422 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 1: had some really bad jobs along the way. I think 423 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 1: if you're lucky enough to be able to say, oh, 424 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: I never had one bad job, then you're I think 425 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: in the minority. And I think that you are special 426 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: in that regard because I know, I've had some real 427 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: shity jobs, horrible jobs over the years. Now, I'm just 428 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 1: going to go around the room real quick. I'll start 429 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 1: with mine. And I can't even say it was a 430 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: job because back when going back to the music industry, 431 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 1: my first internship, this was back when they didn't have 432 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: to give you anything. Today for an internship, you're supposed 433 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: to get at least college credit, or they pay you. 434 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: There has to be something in exchange. Again, this was 435 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: the wild wild West back then, and they didn't have 436 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: to give you anything other than the privilege of being 437 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: able to say that you worked at such a such 438 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: a place for your internship. My internship was at Capitol 439 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: Records and it was during my senior year of college. 440 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: It was a portion in Los Angeles slash Hollywood, and 441 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: then when I went back to school for my senior year, 442 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: it continued out of their regional office in Maryland. I 443 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 1: was working for a guy by the name of Woody Johnson, 444 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: and I would go into the office maybe once or 445 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: twice a week, and he would have me do all 446 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: sorts of menial tasks because that's what an intern does. 447 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 1: The worst of it for me for me, and I 448 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: think this was the only time I felt used and embarrassed. 449 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 1: There was a record release party for an artist by 450 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: the name of Freddie Jackson, an R and B singer, 451 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 1: and he was making an appearance at some sort of 452 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 1: It was a record store called Waxy Maxi's out there, 453 00:25:55,720 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: and he had me dress up in a tuxedo to 454 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: toe and then I had to go around for the 455 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: whole party because they were just industry executives and what 456 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: have you, and fans and people who are in the 457 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 1: record store, and I had to serve them or durs 458 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: like my name was Otis or something. And I remember 459 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: that was the worst I ever felt in my life, 460 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 1: because I felt like an absolute clown. The reason I 461 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: tried to make the best of it in this sense, 462 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: I made use of the time in getting to know 463 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: the record executives who were there to make contacts for 464 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: myself professionally. But to this day, more than thirty years ago, 465 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,479 Speaker 1: it still had to be the worst night of my life. 466 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: Just the abject ridicule. It doesn't sound that bad just 467 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 1: saying you're in a tuxedo serving food, but it was 468 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: when they were making fun of you in the room. 469 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: It's like he made you dress up in a tuxedo 470 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: for a record store for a lease party. That's pretty 471 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: bad and then you realize they're mocking you. So that's 472 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: what it was for me. Eric, Do you have an 473 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: idea of the worst job or moment of a job 474 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 1: that you've had. Probably the worst job that I ever 475 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: had was working at a kid's like trampoline park. It 476 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: was I mean, I was a senior in high school, 477 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: so and we were just expected to do everything including 478 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: clean the bathrooms, clean everything, so I mean, and there 479 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: were accidents not happening in the bathroom as well, So 480 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 1: it was quite the experience as one of my first 481 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 1: jobs ever. Yeah, that's humbling. I remember I worked at 482 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 1: Aladdin's Castle, which was an arcade at Delomo Mall. Now, 483 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 1: working at a video game arcade is cool in and 484 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: of itself, you know, as far as jobs for an 485 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: eighteen year old may go. But like you, we had 486 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: to clean the bathrooms. Yeah, and that is very humbling. Yeah, 487 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: that was the last job that I ever took where 488 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 1: I was having to be the one that had to 489 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 1: clean the bathrooms. Yeah. I made a va after my 490 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: internship experience and also working at Aladdin's Castle that I 491 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: would never work in food service, and I would never 492 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 1: work in housekeeping ever. See working in food service, to me, 493 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: I think was one of my favorite experiences now. Albeit 494 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: obviously you have to deal with the customer service aspect, 495 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: and not everybody is a great person or a good tipper, 496 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 1: if we're going to be blunt here, but it's something 497 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: that I think everybody should have to be like required 498 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 1: to do because it teaches you so many valuable skills 499 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: of just how to deal with any type of person, 500 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: because you experience the wide array of human being that 501 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: walks into a restaurant for any given reason. I worked 502 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: as a marketing assistant and ticket manager for the Los 503 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: Angeles Chamber Orchestra and for the Night of Shows, which 504 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: is either at Royce Hall at UCLA, the Ambassador Auditorium 505 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: in Pasadena, or the Japan America Theater downtown for their performances. 506 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: I was the front facing portion of the company, helping 507 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: people with their tickets. And these are for the most part, 508 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: very wealthy people, and they were some of the biggest 509 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: a holes ever, and I was forced, you know, my personality, 510 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: I really had to dial it down dealing with these 511 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: obviously arrogant a holes about where are my tickets? Or 512 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: why am I sitting here and not there? Are you 513 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: sure you know what you're doing? The type? And I remember, 514 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: I remember my boss, George Sebastian, friends with him to 515 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: this day. He was standing next to me in the 516 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: booth and this guy, I can see his face as 517 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: clearly as the day, and he asked for me to 518 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: look for some tickets that allegedly were set aside for him, 519 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: and I looked they weren't there, and I said, sir, 520 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, there are no tickets here left for you, 521 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: and he said, damn it. Look again. Are you sure 522 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: you're looking in the right place? Saying it just like that? 523 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: And you know how time stops in your mind, Oh yes, 524 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: and you're thinking like if I hit this mother father 525 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: in his nose, do I go to jail or not? 526 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: Or will I just get fired? You start having this 527 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: negotiation with yourself where you're you've already justified losing your job. 528 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: You just don't want to go to jail at that point, 529 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: and I remember he grabbed my arm and pulled me back, 530 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: and he wasn't embarrassing me, but he was saving me 531 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: from myself. And he said, sir, let me look, let 532 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,719 Speaker 1: me just put another set of eyes on this. And 533 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: he knew that it wasn't there, but he wanted to 534 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: set this guy straight and said, no, it's not our imagination. 535 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: Nobody left anything for you. Have a nice night. It's 536 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: I'm not going to name names, but working in now 537 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: this business, yes, and working in promotions and events and 538 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: still being able to work all of the big iHeart 539 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: conserts and stuff. There have been plenty of moments when 540 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: dealing with certain people's teams and managers, publicists and they 541 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: think they are the talent. Yeah. Yeah, there are a 542 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: lot of egos and entertainment and it's really hard. That's 543 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: why I don't God bless anyone who has the opportunity 544 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: to work in entertainment. And I've worked with some wonderful 545 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: people and I love what I do. And if anyone 546 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: who knows me knows that I'm the same dude I 547 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: was thirty years ago when I was broke and I 548 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,959 Speaker 1: couldn't rub two nickels together and I was going through foreclosure. 549 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: I don't take myself seriously. I just take what I 550 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: do seriously. I don't take myself seriously because I've been 551 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: on the other side far too many times. And I 552 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: will never mistreat anyone because I remember being that guy 553 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: in the ticket both. You know, I will never forget. 554 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: It's also one of the reasons why I think for 555 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: a lot of people trying to get into this business, 556 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: starting in the promotions and the street team is a 557 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: great place to start because you get that experience absolutely, 558 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: and you learn to deal with those types of people absolutely, 559 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: And I think those experiences not only help you professionally, 560 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: but they help you grow as a person for sure, 561 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: hopefully sure, Brian Brewman, I know you got a news 562 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: break you have to prepare for, But very quickly does 563 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: a job come to mind as the worst of all 564 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: or the most horrible experience? Oh? Yeah, I was a 565 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: mechanic for fourteen years. As an auto mechanic, Yeah, and 566 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: it's funny you talk about you learn skills. That job 567 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: turned me into a man. I can fix anything. It 568 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: as a person, it made me grow, but I was 569 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: miserable for about seven of those years. Man, how do 570 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: you go from auto mechanic to newsroom? Please tell me 571 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: that to escape to escape the shop? Now, I get that, 572 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: but I'm saying that doesn't seem like a linear progression. Well, actually, 573 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: I listened to podcasts for eight hours a day while 574 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: I was fixing cars, so it made me want to 575 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: get into this. What type of cars were you working on? 576 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: Mainly BMW's Oh excuse the hell out of me. I 577 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: was an automic It for BMW it was a master 578 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: Isn't true what they say that? Like, the oil changes 579 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: are ridiculously priced. Yeah, but they also you only have 580 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: to get them once a year. Although as a mechanic, 581 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: let me tell you you can go through most of 582 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: the year on any car these days with a modern engine. 583 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: Don't be fooled with that. You know, every three months? Crap? 584 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: That was that's old school. I learned something new to 585 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: I did not know the Brian provement. Was it automaca? Wow? 586 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: This just changed the whole five o'cock It changed everything. 587 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: We want to come back with. That is the Johnakans 588 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: Show kf I am six forty. We're live everywhere on 589 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app.