1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,399 Speaker 2: Welcome everybody. Thursday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 2: Sexton Show kicks off right now. We've got a lot 5 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 2: to talk to you about. Clay and I are down 6 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 2: here in South Florida, Miami handling some business. AKA Clay 7 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 2: wanted to experience our Floridian seventy five degree early February weather. Wow, 8 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 2: it's February today. I can't even believe it. 9 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: I actually thought we. 10 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 2: Were still in January. But yes, much to discuss here 11 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,279 Speaker 2: all across the land. Thank you for being in with us. 12 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 2: And if you want to line it up right now, 13 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 2: the calls eight hundred and two A two two eight 14 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:42,599 Speaker 2: A two three big stories come right to mine today. 15 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 2: We're going to dive into one of them here momentarily, 16 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 2: but I wanted to lay them out for you. Also 17 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 2: tell you that we've got Charlie Spearing joining us for 18 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 2: his book Amateur Hour. Kamala Harris or Kamala Harris, depending 19 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: on the US Kamala Kamala Kamala disaster. In every sense 20 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 2: of the word, she is in the White House technically, 21 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: or at least is in the Naval Observatory where she's 22 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: the vice president. Charlie's gonna talk to us about his book, 23 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 2: what he learned about Kamala and will she be the 24 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 2: stand in for Biden should Biden Well, we all know 25 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 2: what could happen. That's possible, and then you know meeting 26 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,559 Speaker 2: Biden steps down for health related reasons. Then we also 27 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 2: have Andy McCarthy joining us to talk about just all 28 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: the different cases play and I make jokes about it, 29 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 2: but it really is absurd. There are so many legal 30 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 2: cases that you have to get very specific, not only 31 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 2: about which criminal case, which civil case, which state, which appeal, 32 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: all these things against Trump. We'll talk to Andy about well, 33 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: where are we in this, what's real, what's not? What's 34 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: the schedule, where's their jeopardy? Where's this going. That'll all 35 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 2: be in the third hour of the program. So of 36 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: some great guests coming up, let's start with the three 37 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: stories that I mentioned. First up, they are the attack. 38 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: It's exactly what I thought they would do on the 39 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 2: list of things that they would do. This was the 40 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 2: most I think, most obvious, and so it hasn't happened yet. 41 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: We'll talk about what the possibilities are for that, I 42 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 2: think the answer is, well, you'll have to hang out 43 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 2: and I'll tell you what the answer is later, Clan, 44 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: I will dive into it. New York City's migrant economy, 45 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 2: as in New York City is now a refugee camp 46 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 2: with over one hundred thousand refugee arrivals who are engaged 47 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: in off the radar economic transactions and some criminal stuff too. 48 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 2: What's that doing to this city of New York. But Clay, 49 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 2: let's hop into this one first, because I was getting 50 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: just like you. In fact, I think we were texting 51 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: about how we were both getting texts from other people, 52 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 2: I mean, for all of you. So far, the numbers right, 53 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 2: the numbers look really good for Trump, and it seems 54 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 2: like things are moving in the right direction. But here's 55 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 2: what we've got. Twenty twenty four matchups Quinnipiac Biden. 56 00:02:58,800 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: This was just yesterday. 57 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 2: This broke opens up a lead over Trump in national 58 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 2: head to head polling. Haley leads Biden one on one, 59 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 2: but trails both of the trails when third party candidates 60 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 2: are in the mix. But Biden, according to this poll, 61 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 2: Clay six point lead over Trump. What do you make 62 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 2: of this? Is this just an outlier or is this 63 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 2: a turning of the tide. I don't think the tide's 64 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 2: going to turn. 65 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 3: I think Trump is basically if you look at all 66 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 3: of the collective data right now up on Biden. But 67 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 3: the idea that Trump is going to go out and 68 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 3: win by four or five points, I think nationwide is 69 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 3: very unlikely. I think also the idea that Biden is 70 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 3: going to go out and win by five or six 71 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 3: points is very unlikely this race when all is said 72 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 3: and done, which is why we were focusing on yesterday 73 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 3: the seventh state battleground poll that came out from I 74 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 3: think it was Morning Consult in Bloomberg. To me, the 75 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 3: national polls are going to be a lot less significant. 76 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 3: What you really want to look at is what's going 77 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 3: to happen in Michigan, what's going on in Pennsylvania, what's 78 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 3: going on in Georgia, Arizona, Nevada, and to a certain extent, 79 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 3: New Hampshire and North Carolina. There are about forty two, 80 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 3: I would say, states that you don't even really need 81 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 3: to focus on, right we know who's going to win 82 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 3: those forty two or forty three. The seven state polls 83 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 3: are the ones that are going to decide this election. 84 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 3: So I'm not gonna pay as much attention to the 85 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 3: overall national polls because they don't really matter. And honestly, 86 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 3: Biden probably has to win nationwide by three or four 87 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 3: points because he trails the nationwide number overall. And there 88 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 3: was a poll that came out today that I thought 89 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 3: was interesting on a statewide basis. Buck it had and 90 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 3: I know we got a lot of listeners in Minnesota, 91 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 3: it had Biden only up three in Minnesota, and that 92 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 3: to me, that Midwest individual state polling is far more 93 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 3: interest than whatever than the nationwide polling might show, because 94 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 3: we know Biden's gonna win New York in California by 95 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 3: massive amounts, but if he's truly only up three in Minnesota, 96 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 3: that would provide further credence to I think those Midwest 97 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 3: state polls that are out there right now that are 98 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 3: very favorable to Trump. 99 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 2: One thing that comes up in this as well, and 100 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 2: this was singled out in the analysis that Quinnipiac put 101 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 2: forth as part of this poll, was the gender gap. Yeah, 102 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: it's been worse. That's the part of this that may 103 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 2: be a little concerning women. Fifty eight to thirty six 104 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: support Biden. I mean, you're talking about basically a twenty 105 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 2: point gap women overall supporting Biden over Trump. December it 106 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 2: was fifty three forty one. So those numbers are moving 107 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 2: against Trump now. I don't know if that means this. 108 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 2: No one knows if that trend will continue, if that stays, 109 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 2: I just wonder, you know, I know there's the VP 110 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 2: Option's a option. Let's have Clay talk more about that. 111 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 2: So the internet can explode for a couple of days. 112 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 2: But I think it really is on Trump actually to 113 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 2: as part of his campaign win back over perhaps some 114 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 2: of the suburban women. College educated women are a very 115 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 2: tough demographic for Donald Trump right now. I don't know 116 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: how many of them he can win back, but certainly 117 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 2: there's got to be. The numbers are so the numbers 118 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 2: are so disparate right now between Trump and Biden on 119 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 2: this that you've got to think that even if Trump 120 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 2: can chip away at it by a few percentage points, 121 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 2: that could make the difference. I think people who are 122 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 2: looking at this election honestly at this point, I know 123 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: it's months away, but it's going to come down to 124 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: a very small It's about where you get the votes 125 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 2: you need not about the aggregate number of votes nationwide, 126 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 2: your point about the polling. 127 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: So it's going to be very tough. 128 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 3: And I just wrote down and put an exclamation point 129 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 3: beside it because I think this is very important. 130 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: I think you have. 131 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 3: So. First of all, men are breaking for Trump and 132 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 3: Republicans pretty substantially, right. So we talk about the gender gap, 133 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 3: The gap is there because women aren't. 134 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: I think you have to divide. 135 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 3: If I were advising the Trump campaign right now, I 136 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 3: think you have to divide women into two distinct categories 137 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 3: because I think single women are virtually lost. Now maybe 138 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 3: you can chip away a little bit at that, but 139 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 3: they're going to go all in on abortion. 140 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: They don't like Trump. 141 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 3: It is culturally not very acceptable for single women to 142 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 3: be very apparently Republican. And by the way, I know 143 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 3: there are single women listening to us right now. This 144 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 3: is talking in generalities, right, every time we talk in generalities, 145 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 3: people say, well, I'm a single woman and I love 146 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 3: Trump or what. 147 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: Yes, this audience is going to tend to skew a little. 148 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 3: Pro Trump, I think, yeah, okay, and pro Republican in general. 149 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 3: So I'm not talking about you specifically, but I bet 150 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 3: if you're a single woman, Hey, maybe we'd love to 151 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: hear from you eight hundred and two eight two two eight. 152 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: If you're a. 153 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 3: Single woman right now, I bet you will endorse what 154 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 3: I am saying, which is when you talk with your girlfriends, 155 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 3: when you guys go out, there is a pronounced anti Republican, 156 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 3: anti Trump bent and I think it's directly connected to abortion. 157 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 3: So I think it's going to be very hard to 158 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 3: compete with single women. They are the base of the 159 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 3: Democrat Party right now. Okay, married women, though, this is 160 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 3: where and this is why people get angry at me 161 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 3: when I talk about the VP. 162 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: This is where Trump can make Hay. 163 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 3: I think if I were advising Trump right now, I 164 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 3: would say you need to focus on married women because 165 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 3: I think there are a lot of married women out 166 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 3: there that are actually going to be willing to listen 167 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 3: to the arguments in favor of Trump. Why married women 168 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 3: a lot of them have children, And I think if 169 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 3: you look at a lot of single women when they 170 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 3: get married and when they have kids, and I think 171 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 3: this is true of men too, you tend to get 172 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 3: more conservative women out there that might be when they're single, 173 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 3: comfortable with the idea of men are awful, men are 174 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 3: toxic masculinity. 175 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: I just they might say that's icky. Then guess what happens. 176 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 3: They get married, they like their husband, and even if 177 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 3: they don't love their husband, they have kids. 178 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: Suddenly you have sons. Right, even if they don't love 179 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 1: their husband. Klay, don't love your husband all the time. 180 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: What's going on here, Clay? 181 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 3: This is getting I've been married almost twenty years, and 182 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 3: there's lots of times I think my wife would say 183 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 3: I don't love everything that my husband's done. I think 184 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 3: every married woman out there would nod along. But you 185 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 3: have boys, and you have sons, maybe you have grandsons. 186 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 3: You start seeing the way that they are being raised 187 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 3: and how everybody is saying that they're awful, and you 188 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 3: start thinking this doesn't add up. This doesn't make a 189 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 3: lot of sense. Married women are winnable, and that is 190 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 3: why I and people get. 191 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 4: Mad at me. 192 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,599 Speaker 2: Trump is women with married women. 193 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 3: And he can win even more with married women. I 194 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 3: think you have to have single women from married Well, well, 195 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 3: absolutely he wins married women, but he doesn't win them 196 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 3: by the same numbers that Biden wins single women. And 197 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 3: if you go look at the data, that's where the 198 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 3: difference is between twenty sixteen and twenty twenty. So that's 199 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 3: why I think the VP makes and people get mad 200 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 3: at me. I think you have to look at Nicky Haley. 201 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 3: I think you have to look at a last Stephanic. 202 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 3: I think you have to look at Christy Noam. I 203 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 3: would look at our friend Marsha Blackburn. I think there 204 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 3: are a lot of women out there that could make 205 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 3: sense as VP candidates for Trump, that would make the 206 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 3: case that he needs to make to them better and 207 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 3: easier than just Trump by himself. And it is worth 208 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 3: noting that I don't know, I don't know how much 209 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 3: faith you all have in Frank Lunz, but he's out 210 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 3: here saying this is cut seventeen that Biden is clearly, 211 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 3: by the numbers, the weakest incumbent since Jimmy Carter. 212 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 5: We went through this in twenty sixteen as Hilligo Clinton 213 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 5: zoom in the polls early on and then collapse at 214 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 5: the end. So this is no guarantee of what happens 215 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 5: in October and November. But Andrew, make no mistake, Joe 216 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 5: Biden is the weakest incumbent in America since Jimmy Carter. 217 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 5: In nineteen eighty, and don't forget on the Thursday before 218 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 5: the election, Carter was dead even with Ronald Reagan. After 219 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 5: their one debate, Reagan beat Jimmy Carter by nine points. 220 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: This is a look into the future. 221 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 2: My biggest concern play, well, other than the legal stuff 222 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 2: and October surprise, shenanigans and skullduggery, is any sense of 223 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 2: Republican overconfidence here. That's the thing that honestly bothers me 224 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 2: more than any other possibility here. It's like, oh, yeah, 225 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 2: Biden's so weak, He's such a joke. Ninety seven percent 226 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 2: of Democrats who voted for Biden are going to look 227 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 2: at this and say I'll take him over Trump. Maybe 228 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 2: more than that. I mean, they're locked in right, So 229 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 2: now you're going to turn out and independence and third, 230 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 2: you know, it starts to become a very complicated pool 231 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 2: that you're operating with. But it's not going to be 232 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 2: some walk in the park no matter what, because most 233 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 2: of this is already baked in. 234 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 3: I think the once analogy of nineteen eighty with Jimmy Carter. 235 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 3: I do think Jimmy Carter and Joe Biden is the 236 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 3: best historical analogy out there. The challenge is I think 237 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty people were still getting used to Ronald Reagan. 238 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 3: The nation was still becoming aware of who he was. 239 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 3: And that's why a debate on both sides, Democrats Republicans. 240 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 3: I don't think it's going to change anybody's opinion. I 241 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 3: think this is going to come down to turnout third parties. 242 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 3: Turnout in third parties, to me, is going to dictate 243 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 3: who wins this election, because nobody out there is suddenly 244 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 3: going to be I don't think, oh you know what, 245 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 3: Donald Trump is different than I thought he was. Joe 246 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 3: Biden is different than I thought he was. Most of 247 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 3: us alive today have never had a campaign where effectively 248 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 3: we have two incumbents running. Everybody has an opinion about 249 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 3: these guys. That's why I do think the VP could 250 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 3: be helpful for Trump, because nobody likes Kamala. If Trump 251 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 3: got a VP that women, college educated, married women liked 252 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 3: and felt like in some way reflected them, I'm telling 253 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 3: you and grab this and we'll go back to it 254 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,719 Speaker 3: in November. In nine months, when the election happens, I'm 255 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 3: telling you, they are gonna be women in particular that 256 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 3: are gonna sit around and say I don't like Trump, 257 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 3: I don't like Biden, they don't like Kamala. But if 258 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 3: Trump made the right VP, they might say, but you 259 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 3: know what, I really like Christy Noam. She reminds me 260 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 3: of me. Or they might say, I really like people 261 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 3: get mad, I really like Nikki Haley. She reminds me 262 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 3: of talking about people who are swing voters. And that's 263 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 3: what I would say to Trump too. The base is baked. 264 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 3: People are coming in on the base and they're gonna 265 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 3: show up. General election campaign is about persuading people who 266 00:13:56,080 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 3: aren't necessarily fully engaged, and they often make a motional 267 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 3: decisions based on how they're going to vote. 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Do we believe that Biden has suddenly a 305 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 3: six point lead some of you out they are going 306 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 3: to say, oh, of course he does, because you think 307 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 3: the polls are all rigged, and as soon as Trump 308 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 3: becomes the nominee, that the polls are going to start 309 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 3: trending back in favor of Biden. We hear from people 310 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 3: who believe that every single day. I do not believe that. 311 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 3: I think this one's an outlier, and the individual state 312 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 3: polls are the ones to follow, and there's going to 313 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 3: be a lot of moving parts, and ultimately, I think, 314 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 3: and I've been saying this for a long time, in 315 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 3: all of these areas in Philadelphia, in Milwaukee, the suburbs, 316 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 3: in Atlanta suburbs, and the suburbs of Phoenix. Ultimately, it's 317 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 3: going to be married women, particularly married college educated women, 318 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 3: who decide this election. If they break Trump, it's going 319 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 3: to be a comfortable win for Trump. If they break Biden, 320 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 3: it's going to be very hard for Trump to win. 321 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 3: That's what the data would reflect as we head towards 322 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four and where the swing happened to a 323 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 3: large extent from sixteen to twenty And we talked about 324 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 3: that with Ryan gerdusky Buck just what earlier this week, right. 325 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 2: And I think that the immigration issues we're about to 326 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 2: dive into, and you know, the language has changed so 327 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 2: much on this and I'm very aware of it, and 328 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 2: sometimes people point out to this, they don't use the 329 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 2: words that they're using. We're talking about people who have 330 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 2: entered the country illegally and are refugees. That's actually this 331 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 2: might where does this migrant term come from? They are 332 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 2: claiming they need asylum, therefore they are refugees, and you 333 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 2: have a lot of them in New York City and 334 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 2: it's causing some real problems, budgetary problems, crime problems. We're 335 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 2: going to dive into some of this because I think 336 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 2: this is the Achilles heel of Biden twenty twenty four. 337 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 2: In just a moment when you think about all that's 338 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,239 Speaker 2: going on in the world. 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Welcome back to Clay and Buck. 358 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 2: We're talking about the border and how what you've seen. 359 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 2: We keep reminding you of the numbers, almost seven million 360 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 2: illegals coming into the country, taking advantage of our system, 361 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 2: taking advantage of your generosity, your tax payer dollars. If 362 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 2: it's not a problem, why do we have laws that 363 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 2: say it is a problem. I have to keep reminding 364 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 2: people of this. If there's nothing wrong with it, why 365 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 2: is it illegal? We shouldn't We shouldn't have something illegal 366 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 2: that's not a problem. 367 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 1: Right. 368 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 2: So there's a lot of propaganda around this, lot of lies. 369 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 2: I mean here, for example, this is a quick one. 370 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 2: This is cut three. Karine Jean Pierre. Who who's responsible 371 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 2: for the problem of the border. Here's what the White 372 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 2: House is saying, play three. 373 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 6: For years they have refused to heed the president's request 374 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 6: for action a much needed funding for border security. 375 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 2: Notice the word refuse to heed action border security. Biden 376 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 2: could wake up tomorrow and say, as as chief executive 377 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 2: of the United States government, it is under my authority 378 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 2: to the same way that he said he was going 379 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 2: to stop all deportations. Remember that he could say, I'm 380 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 2: going to stop all legal entries. If you come in 381 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 2: not an import of entry. We're going to detain you 382 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 2: and deport you full stop. It's in the law. He 383 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 2: could do it, he won't do it. And they don't 384 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 2: want people to recognize this. They don't want people to 385 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 2: figure out what the big scam is. Play every state 386 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 2: to border state. It's not just a slogan, it's true. 387 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 2: Really if you're going to think about in some ways 388 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 2: the biggest border state for this refugee crisis, and I 389 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 2: think that's a much better way of putting it. If 390 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 2: you say you're an asylum seeker, you're a refugee. Why 391 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 2: won't they say that? Well, because when you start setting 392 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 2: up tents and filling them with refugees and kicking kids 393 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 2: out of high school to fill that with refugees, you're 394 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 2: turning New York City into a refugee camp or refugee center. 395 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 2: One hundred and fifty seven thousand migrants have arrived in 396 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 2: New York City since the spring of twenty twenty two, 397 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 2: or as I say, refugees, sixty eight thousand in city 398 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 2: run shelters play. They are now taking jobs in an 399 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 2: underground economy, food delivery drivers, cooks, subway candy sellers, cleaners, 400 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 2: things like this, This is all the New York posts today. 401 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 2: The numbers not going to stop. These are people don't 402 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 2: realize the border bill that the Senate's talking about isn't 403 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 2: going to deal with the influx of refugees already, or 404 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 2: they're actually fake refugees. But that's a whole other part 405 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 2: of the conversation. And it's not going to stop them 406 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 2: because as long as people get to stay, more gonna 407 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 2: want to come. 408 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'm just reading right now Bill Malujin, who 409 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 3: does a really good job covering the situation at the 410 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 3: border for Fox News. 411 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: This is a new data point. 412 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 3: He is dropped. And I'm curious your reaction to this book. 413 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 3: The large majority, I'm reading from his tweet that he 414 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,719 Speaker 3: just put out large majority of illegal crossings at the 415 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:42,719 Speaker 3: southern border now happening in Arizona and California as we 416 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 3: are seeing a shift away from Texas. 417 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 1: And I'm reading from his tweet. 418 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 3: Per sources at the CBP, over the last week of January, 419 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 3: border patrol apprehended thirty two eight and nine illegal immigrants, 420 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 3: seventy two percent of them in Arizona and California and 421 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 3: in Del Rio down on Texas, which is Egle Pass. 422 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: They've suddenly fallen off a cliff. 423 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 3: In December, they were seeing three to four thousand illegal 424 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 3: crossings per day. Over the last week, just two hundred 425 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 3: a day. He says it's happening for two reasons. One, 426 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 3: Texas has locked things down. Guess what border security works. 427 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 3: People change their behavior based on ease of entry. And 428 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 3: Mexico is now stopping migrants from boarding trains and actually 429 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 3: starting to have some enforcement off the Texas border. Meanwhile, 430 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 3: San Diego and Tucson, these are now the areas where 431 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 3: everybody's trying to cross. 432 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: So buck what does this suggest That these. 433 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 3: Illegal crossings are impacted by ease of entry, which I 434 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 3: know is staggering, but incentives change behavior. And if Greg 435 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 3: Abbott is putting in more difficulty in Texas, and these 436 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 3: cartels in Mexico are assessing that it's becoming more difficult 437 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 3: to go into Texas, they can shift direction and now 438 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 3: go across Arizona and in California. And what do Arizona 439 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 3: and California both have Democrat governors. Democrat governors who are 440 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 3: unlikely to be as aggressive in trying to forestall crossings there. Now, 441 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 3: Arizona's a swing state Carrie Lake running for the Senate there. 442 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 3: Certainly Donald Trump wants to flip Arizona back into Republican control. 443 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 3: I would actually argue politically, this is the worst thing 444 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 3: that could happen to Biden, because he's not gonna win 445 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 3: Texas no matter what, but Arizona. If suddenly Arizona's getting overrun, 446 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 3: even more so by illegal boarding border crossings, how many 447 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 3: moderate people out there do you think might think, Hey, 448 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 3: you know, I don't like Trump necessarily on every policy. 449 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 3: How many of these suburban women who suddenly are seeing 450 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 3: their state and their county and their city overrun with 451 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 3: migrant crisis. This is even bigger of an issue I 452 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 3: think for Biden in some ways to have that shift 453 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 3: to Arizona. We know Gavin Knewsom he doesn't care about 454 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 3: the truth at all, but Arizona being overrun is arguably 455 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 3: worse politically. On the border, oh absolutely, And this is 456 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 3: not again, they the Democrats will not stop this because 457 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 3: there is a large portion of the Democrat base that 458 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 3: likes the refugees, the fake refugees pouring into the country. 459 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 3: And I say fake refugee because there is a clear 460 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 3: legal distinction for what makes someone qualify. These are people 461 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 3: who are pretending that their lives are in jeopardy so 462 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 3: they can pass a credible fear test at the border. 463 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 3: And they it's made far too easy for them. And 464 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 3: that could be changed as well, just as a matter 465 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 3: of regulation by border patrol and by immigration and customs 466 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 3: and force horsemen. But they don't want to change these 467 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 3: things because a lot of Democrats actually want to believe 468 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 3: that they are good people, because they want more of 469 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 3: this in Arizona, you know, the same way that there's 470 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 3: there's a bussing and plane flights that has occurred from 471 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 3: Texas to New York. 472 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 2: And give credit to Greg Abbott. I mean he came 473 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 2: up with this idea with Arizona. The word's going to 474 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 2: get out. It already has obviously, but it's going to 475 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 2: continue to get out that that's an easier place to cross. 476 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 2: All right, Let's see how that goes, you know, let's 477 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 2: see what the numbers start to look like, especially we 478 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,479 Speaker 2: get into the summer months and you have huge migrant 479 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 2: encampments that are going to start to be set up 480 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 2: on the Arizona Mexico border. And I think that that's 481 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 2: going to be only the numbers are only going to 482 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 2: be going up, and ultimately, you know, the people that 483 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 2: are saying, you know, oh, we need to sign this 484 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 2: bill or Republicans won't do anything. It's not gonna work. 485 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 2: That we've seen too much of what the truth is 486 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 2: year because the mayor of New York City, for example, says, 487 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 2: we can't afford all these migrants. We can't continue to 488 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 2: pay these bills. So the economic impact is being made 489 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 2: very real to people. There have been some you know, 490 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 2: some incidents there were some migrants involved in like beating up. 491 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: A copy new Yeah, we need to talk about that. 492 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 2: And there's these are things that should not be happening 493 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 2: at all, and yet they're happening with regularity, Meaning people 494 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 2: are coming into the country, they're going into cities, they're 495 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 2: relying on public services, and now some of them are 496 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 2: committing crimes. What is the upside of this for the 497 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 2: American voter, for the American people. That's never addressed in 498 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 2: any of it. So I think it's a it's a 499 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 2: massive weakness, it's a massive problem for the Democrats. 500 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 3: And we've got a couple of different stories. We'll unpack 501 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 3: some in the second hour. Majorcis impeachment does that make sense. 502 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 3: And also, as you just mentioned, I'll tease that and 503 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 3: set it up for New York City. Five different illegal 504 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 3: immigrants attacked New York City hops and we're immediately let 505 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 3: out without having any bail at all, to be having 506 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 3: to pay what's going on. That's something that I think 507 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 3: strikes almost everyone in New York Democrat, Republican, Independent as 508 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 3: just more evidence of how things are broken there. We'll 509 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 3: lay that story out for you for those who have 510 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 3: not heard, when we come back and break all that down. 511 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 3: And let me tell you, I'm going to be out 512 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 3: next week. Buck, I'm down here in Miami with you 513 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 3: right now. Next week, I'm going to be in Las 514 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 3: Vegas in Nevada, Swing State, Nevada for Super Bowl fifty seven, 515 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 3: and a lot of you out there are huge percentages 516 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 3: of you will be at Super Bowl parties. 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We got a bunch of people 552 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 3: who want to weigh in in a variety of different 553 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 3: topics we've talked about so far. At the top of 554 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,719 Speaker 3: the next hour, layout that New York City scandal. Also 555 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 3: what the rules are for Democrats in the Capitol Hill 556 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 3: misbehavior universe compared to jam sixth. I think that is 557 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 3: that is interesting. Ryan in Texas, what you got for us? 558 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 4: Oh, the latest poll that's showing Biden up six I 559 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 4: think it's fake news. I think it may be design 560 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 4: to help Nicky Haley get over the finish line, which 561 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 4: is not gonna help help her, but I think she's 562 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 4: looking to get the VP spot. 563 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 564 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 3: Look, I think there is an argument out there and 565 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 3: people get fired up about this, and I understand. Look, 566 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 3: I'm gonna vote for Trump, and Buck is going to 567 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 3: vote for Trump in our respective in our respective primaries 568 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 3: coming up right, I think Florida's March nineteenth, Tennessee is 569 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 3: March fifth. 570 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: Trump is won and is the nominee. 571 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 3: From my perspective, I think Nicky Haley should drop out. 572 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: Buck thinks Nicky Haley should drop out, but I don't think. 573 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 3: Also, you can just dismiss someone as out of hand, 574 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 3: even if you don't like her. If Trump makes a 575 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 3: VP selection that makes it more likely that he's gonna win. 576 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 3: I'm all about it, and I think there are a 577 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 3: lot of female voters who. 578 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: Would be happy with that choice. 579 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 3: By the way, women want to react to what I 580 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 3: was talking about, which is, as Buck laid out, we've 581 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 3: got a major gender imbalance here in terms of the 582 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 3: way that the polls are reflecting who people are supporting. 583 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 3: Men are primarily going to be Trump supporters. Women right 584 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 3: now are primarily going to be Biden supporters, presuming Biden's 585 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 3: on the ballot. 586 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: Mary down on the Space Coast in Florida. 587 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 7: What you got for us, Well, I want to talk 588 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 7: to my fellow gender, the ladies out there, the females, 589 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 7: and I just want to say, look out for what 590 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 7: you wish for. 591 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 6: Here's the thing. 592 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 7: If anything happens to the primary person that becomes president 593 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 7: and you've got that vice president as president, that vice 594 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 7: president better be equipped to handle invasion into our country, 595 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 7: inflation in our economy, wars all over the place that 596 00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 7: Biden is starting, and we're embroiled. 597 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 6: In drug cartels, you name it. 598 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 7: We've got all of these problems nationally speaking and internationally speaking. 599 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,479 Speaker 7: We've got to have somebody that can get the road running. 600 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: Who do you like? Who would you pick me? Mary? 601 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 6: Well? 602 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,719 Speaker 7: You know Frankly Ted Cruz. 603 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 6: Oh, you don't expect that. 604 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 7: You probably expect the female. But no, I'm going to 605 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 7: say Ted Cruz. And I am a lifelong voter, and 606 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 7: I have been analyzing politics. I am college educated, I 607 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 7: have had children. 608 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: I do for the call. 609 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Ted Cruz, I'd sleep very well 610 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 2: at night of Ted Cruz was the president. I think 611 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 2: there are a whole range of Republicans who are for 612 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 2: some reason, they had to step up after being vice 613 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 2: president Trump as Trump is older, and you know, God forbid, 614 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,239 Speaker 2: but things can come out of that where you can 615 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 2: have health issues that hit you know, someone can have 616 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 2: a stroke, and now they're just not in a position 617 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 2: to be able to do the job going forward. I 618 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 2: think one one very true thing that is a parent 619 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 2: I believe at some level on both sides of the 620 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 2: political issle is the Republicans have a much deeper bench 621 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 2: of serious people to take important roles. I mean, you 622 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 2: start looking at Okay, if it's not Joe Biden, it's 623 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 2: gonna be Kamala Harris. Okay, if it's not Joe Biden 624 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 2: or Kamala Harris, it's going to be These are not 625 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 2: people that I would I would trust to be making 626 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 2: any decisions of consequence and have their judgment reflected in 627 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 2: any way in national policy. 628 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: Sasha. 629 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 2: In Sandwich, Massachusetts, where I hear now, I'm not even 630 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna do it. 631 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be a dad joke. 632 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 3: There's probably a lot of people out there hungary with 633 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 3: the I was not gonna make a Pastrami on Rye 634 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 3: comment about Sandwich, Massachusetts. 635 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: What's going on, Sasha, Hi, So. 636 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 6: I was calling to share kind of a story of 637 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 6: hope and a VP pick. So my daughter is nineteen 638 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 6: and unfortunately been liberalized in school, and it's been kind 639 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 6: of a brainwashed person. 640 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 2: Can you can you get her to listen to a 641 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 2: little play and Buck? You know, we're cool, we're hit, 642 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 2: we're kind of young, all right. 643 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 6: Trust me, I try. So there is hope though. So 644 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 6: the other night, when the New Hampshire primaries were coming in, 645 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 6: I wanted to put that on and she was like, 646 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 6: do not put that on. I made politics and I said, 647 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 6: well you can vote this year. Who are you going 648 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 6: to vote for? And she said, I know who I 649 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 6: want to vote for and they're not running. And I said, 650 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 6: well who and she said Candace Owens And I so, yes, Well. 651 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: How did she find How did she find Candace? 652 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 6: Exactly? Well, she's you know, with all the algorithms, she said, 653 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 6: I received crazy tiktoks and things making fun of Candace 654 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 6: and putting her down, and they'll show a clip of 655 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,240 Speaker 6: her and then they make fun of it. And she said, 656 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 6: every time I see one, I say, well, jeez, I 657 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 6: really agree with Candace. 658 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 7: And I was blown away. 659 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 2: There's hope here, by the way, there's hope. If she's 660 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 2: agreeing with Canvas on things, You've got the beginning. There 661 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 2: is a beachhead of political sanity that your daughter has 662 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 2: already established. 663 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 3: So Sasha, what you're hitting on is really interesting, though, 664 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,800 Speaker 3: because does your daughter who's nineteen. 665 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 1: Because I've got a sixteen, a thirteen, and a ten 666 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 1: year old. 667 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 3: I think if I can keep my ages right, she's 668 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 3: getting that information from those algorithms. Buck at OutKick now 669 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 3: on YouTube now, on TikTok, we have videos going out 670 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 3: to millions of people that they're seeing now. 671 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: And this is what I always say, I'm glad she called. 672 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,800 Speaker 3: People attacking you is not the worst thing, because every 673 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 3: time you get attacked, thirty percent of people might watch 674 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,959 Speaker 3: that attack like Sasha's, like the daughter there just did, 675 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 3: and think, actually, I kind of agree with what that 676 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 3: person's saying, and they make you aware of arguments and 677 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 3: perspectives that you might not have otherwise seen. That's why 678 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 3: I don't mind people say, oh, this is going viral 679 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 3: and people are teeing off on something you or Buck said. 680 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: I said, yeah, that's fine. 681 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,479 Speaker 3: Thirty percent of people are going to watch that video 682 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 3: and they're going to agree, and they might have had 683 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 3: no idea we existed before. Republicans have to get smarter 684 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 3: on social media, but sometimes attacks can actually actually work, 685 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 3: Buck to your benefit, because it gives you more exposure