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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Drive. I am Dale Lilly here with Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: We are live from Steelers training camp here in beautiful Laterpe, Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 1: Met another beautiful day here. The last two days might

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Speaker 1: have been the nicest days we've been out here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: very pleasant weather, not hot, but sunny, lots of blue skies,

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Speaker 1: seeing all the mountains in the background, not a haze

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Speaker 1: or anything like that. It's perfect. I'm loving it. Jacob's

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Speaker 1: got a big sandwich here. Besides, she's getting wolfed down here.

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Speaker 1: A couple of times he's come back with some soggy uh,

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Speaker 1: some soggy boxes from the cafeterias. He has worked his

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Speaker 1: way back across campus. That has not been the case

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Speaker 1: here to last It's been beautiful and we've got tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: I think it's supposed to be nice as well. Good

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Speaker 1: way to end this whole thing. And this is the

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Speaker 1: penultimate day. Another another big crowd that the crowds have

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Speaker 1: showed up this year. Yeah they have. Yeah, I have

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Speaker 1: no doubt about it. I think coming back here is

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Speaker 1: you know, if you build it. Yeah, you know, and

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Speaker 1: I think the team is creating a little bit of buzz.

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Speaker 1: I think certainly were a little interesting year. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: think people were like, Okay, what's this gonna look like

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Speaker 1: without Ben Roethlisberger. Um, they got a taste of it

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Speaker 1: Saturday night against the Seahawks, and I think that created

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Speaker 1: some buzz as well, because I think people liked what

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Speaker 1: they saw in terms of I think the offense and things.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that place was rocking for a preseason game,

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Speaker 1: absolutely right, No, I mean there's a lot of change

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Speaker 1: in that there were back to St. Vincent's after a

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Speaker 1: couple of year hiatus. Hey, there's a new GM, there's

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Speaker 1: a new uh, there's a new defensive guys on the

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Speaker 1: coaching staff. I know this is Matt Cannadys and this

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Speaker 1: isn't his first year, but it's really gonna be the

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Speaker 1: first year of seeing what he wants to do on

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Speaker 1: offense and truly implementing it. New quarterbacks of course, you know.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of change, but a lot of the

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Speaker 1: same too, And that's kind of the beauty of this

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Speaker 1: organization and this place. You know, J T. Thomas comes

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Speaker 1: here and sits down with those guys before us, and

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Speaker 1: they said mel Blunt's gonna be here tomorrow. So there's

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Speaker 1: always a touch of the past, but you know it's

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Speaker 1: time to look forward and see what the team's gonna become. Yeah. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: As we watched the quarterbacks go through some some drill

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Speaker 1: work footwork here in front of us. Here this this

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Speaker 1: is a interesting little throwing on the like, avoiding, avoiding context,

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Speaker 1: step up in the pocket, throw on the run, drop

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Speaker 1: it in, which they did in games on Saturday. I

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Speaker 1: mean the guy would come free and uh Trabisky or

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Speaker 1: Picket in particular would make a miss or side step him,

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Speaker 1: keep his calm and deliver a throw or pick up

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Speaker 1: four or five yards. So it is one of the

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Speaker 1: more interesting things to practice. It's really easy to overlook,

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Speaker 1: but I've really enjoyed was this practice sixteen or seven

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Speaker 1: watching each one of those more. You know, the first

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Speaker 1: part of this part of practice of what are the

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks working on for their individual drills, and a lot

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Speaker 1: of it is moving your feet and throwing the football.

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Speaker 1: Watsouldn't Gunner l Schefski work now as a holder, right,

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to get to the bottom of this whole

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Speaker 1: long he has to have hold held. I mean he's

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Speaker 1: such a special teams guy. I mean, does he have

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Speaker 1: I was saying, that at some level he did so.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's fielded snaps before, though. You know, I

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Speaker 1: would bet he's the emergency holder. The more I think

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Speaker 1: about that would be good. Yeah, but they've had a

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Speaker 1: to do that. No, they usually have the hands for

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Speaker 1: it and the hand eye coordinations. You can also get

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Speaker 1: the hands, or they don't find practice it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you've practice, you're not taking snaps from the long

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Speaker 1: snapper and having Boswell swing his leg through, and you

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Speaker 1: got other things to do. I talked to Christian Quints today,

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Speaker 1: the Steelers long snapper. You know, we've seen Chris Boswell

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Speaker 1: I asked him. I said, could bos be a long

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Speaker 1: that's you gotta find somewhere to put them. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: didn't have Like, yeah, I always say this too, Like

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Speaker 1: I was shocked how big and heavy an NFL ball

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Speaker 1: uh Steelers not in pads today, matt Um looks like

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Speaker 1: that we may have seen the last padded practice here

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Speaker 1: at least. You think tomorrow will be light too, right,

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Speaker 1: two good practices in a row in pads, and so, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, we might see some padded practices coming out

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Speaker 1: of this third pre or second preseason game before the

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Speaker 1: the regular season in that third preseason game as well.

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Speaker 1: But you're not gonna see the physicality thinking at this

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Speaker 1: point anymore. Do you feel like that now? The goal

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Speaker 1: is let's get all the dudes that we're gonna count

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Speaker 1: on to the starting line, yes, you know, as well

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Speaker 1: as play some meaningful games. And I am really looking

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Speaker 1: forward to this Jacksonville game. I'm sure we'll talk about

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Speaker 1: I think, And that's what they're kind of working their

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Speaker 1: we've had a lot of fun. Oh yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: I'm grateful to be here. I think it's super cool environment. Uh,

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Speaker 1: the watering holes in the evening, the meals, sitting here,

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Speaker 1: watching practice, it's pretty cool. And again, especially when the

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Speaker 1: weather's like this too, I mean's this really enjoyable? Absolutely

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Speaker 1: So if you were on the fence about coming out, well,

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Speaker 1: tomorrow's the last time chances you'll get, so get your

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Speaker 1: butt out here. And uh once your Steelers practice. You

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Speaker 1: are listening to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio

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Speaker 1: and ESPN nine seventy. Again. He is Matt Williamson and

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Speaker 1: I am Dale Lully. We are live through five o'clock,

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Speaker 1: so we'll take you right through the Steelers practice. Here

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Speaker 1: the only station bringing you live Steelers practice updates as

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Speaker 1: they happen on the field. The only station put It's

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Speaker 1: been fun to kind of do a play by players

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Speaker 1: to talk to Thrrell Edmonds today and I asked myself,

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Speaker 1: I think it's more of a Something we've discussed is well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I think that'll be will come to fruition.

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Speaker 1: But I think the spot next to him is unsettled,

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Speaker 1: don't think that story is written yet, but I am

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Speaker 1: hard on Spillane and I don't feel super confident about

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Speaker 1: Bush and the young guys are highly highly unproven. So

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Speaker 1: Edmonds is going to be the linebacker ish of the group,

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Speaker 1: So mine, I put him on back and backers like

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Speaker 1: Your vote, I mean, your your bet is Riley's the

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Speaker 1: one that goes. That would be my guest. I think

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Speaker 1: so too. It would be my guess. I remember click

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Speaker 1: go well, but I wouldn't say fer yeah, yeah right,

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00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,159
Speaker 1: be far that New York Sack Sack exchange there for

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Speaker 1: a while with Gastino and those guys, but all of

427
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Speaker 1: famers is kind of blown to right, right, that's good nickname. Yeah. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The team Steelers breaking off into their individual drills here

429
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Speaker 1: and again we're watching the wide receivers here in front

430
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Speaker 1: of us catching the rugby balls. The running backs over there.

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Speaker 1: What are they working on today? It won't be backs

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Speaker 1: on backers'll be backs on backers. It's pretty basic handoff stuff,

433
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Speaker 1: just working on. The receivers are going under the under

434
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Speaker 1: the bar again to get a nice low release off

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Speaker 1: a line of scramming. And say that the individual offensive

436
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 1: drills here aren't real spectacular. That's just kind of pretty

437
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 1: basic stuff. Yeah. And it's even a quick catch. Get

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Speaker 1: it out of your hands, find the laces and throw it.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's not even a basically running r Yeah, exactly,

440
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Speaker 1: your feet as quick as you can do it, find

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Speaker 1: the laces, get it out all right at it. Yeah,

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00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,959
Speaker 1: he gets it out quick, and that shows up. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know he's pretty decisive when he Yeah, yeah, yeah

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Speaker 1: that stuff. Yeah, that that's a nice job with it.

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Speaker 1: Pick it taken just a smidge longer to set the speed,

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Speaker 1: and we almost have to have like a short stout

447
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Speaker 1: mentality here of get the ball, touch a base, fired

448
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Speaker 1: first as quick as you probably a short stout mentality.

449
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Speaker 1: Pick it won the home run contest lessons did he? Yeah, okay,

450
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Speaker 1: got the special bat that Mike Tomlin had me. I

451
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Speaker 1: kind of like seeing that, you know, I mean, I'm

452
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Speaker 1: sure Ben used to win it all the time, but

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Speaker 1: if he wanted all the time, he was. He was

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Speaker 1: a good player. Uh. That's the last year I saw it,

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Speaker 1: the last year that they did it before COVID. I

456
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 1: think Matt Filer was a two time champion, big offensive

457
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Speaker 1: lineman who's had a baseball background him. You know, he could,

458
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Speaker 1: he could, he could hit the ball a long way.

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Speaker 1: I remember you've mentioned a few Steelers that were really

460
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Speaker 1: good at it. My only experience was many many moons ago.

461
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 1: I played in the Hinds Awards softball event, and Ben

462
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 1: and Keisel pretty much homeward every time they came to play.

463
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 1: And Keel made it look pretty easy to big strong guy.

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Speaker 1: It's an athlete, you know, and Ben was just a

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Speaker 1: pure athlete. It could have been golf, it could have

466
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Speaker 1: been bowling. You've probably been the best player there, you know. Yeah, absolutely,

467
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Speaker 1: but like hearing that from the quarterback, Like, I wouldn't

468
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Speaker 1: pick it to be the best pick up hoop guy.

469
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Speaker 1: I wanted to be the best bowler. I wanted to

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Speaker 1: be the best lawn dark guy here, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. I think they've kind of gone away in

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Speaker 1: the past. Yeah, um, so he won that. I don't

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Speaker 1: know who all competed if we weren't on campus last

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Speaker 1: night when that happened. I used to go out and

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Speaker 1: just watch it, just sit and watch it. He used

476
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Speaker 1: to have a game uh offense against the defense, but

477
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 1: the offense was always uh open up on the more

478
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Speaker 1: than skill guys. Did you say Dennis Dixon made the

479
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,120
Speaker 1: craziest catch I've ever seen in my life one year.

480
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Speaker 1: And you've been around baseball all the time and pop

481
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Speaker 1: up behind third base, Like behind third base. He came

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Speaker 1: all the way from center field from center and made

483
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Speaker 1: a diving catch. But he was he was a minor

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Speaker 1: league outfield. Yeah right, I he hit that great athlete

485
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Speaker 1: for quarterback too. But but it wasn't from left, No,

486
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Speaker 1: from center. He came ran through. Could he could fly? Yeah,

487
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 1: and it made it just laid out and caught the

488
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Speaker 1: caught the softball was like, Wow, that was that's unbelievable impressive. Yeah,

489
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Speaker 1: he didn't cover in the air forever. I'm sure you

490
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Speaker 1: know how you're dropping a flyball into that outfield, you

491
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Speaker 1: can cover that sideline to sideline in the Yeah, don't

492
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 1: hit flyballs all right, He's gonna get everything. Uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: So that's always fun. That's just something that Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 1: brought in here when he started. Just a kind of

495
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Speaker 1: a fun day kind of thing. Yeah, but there's also

496
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Speaker 1: a little competitiveness to you want to see you compete

497
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 1: exactly everything they do. It's not okay just to lose

498
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: and be laughing off and you know, everything's okay. I mean,

499
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 1: sure it's an easy day, but it fills two needs to.

500
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Speaker 1: He's still evaluating players are a different light, you know.

501
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 1: I mean that that stuff is always to get out

502
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Speaker 1: there and compete. Who's not you know, yeah, and you

503
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know from your scouting background, maybe you

504
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Speaker 1: don't go watch a guy play baseball. Basketball's a wonderful

505
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Speaker 1: thing to watch. It probably learned some things. We're watching

506
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Speaker 1: a guy as a baseball player, though, Like I'm sure

507
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Speaker 1: you know you get a big offensive lineman, but he's

508
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Speaker 1: he's good at first base. He moves, you know, the

509
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: footworks good or catcher, and so you see some of

510
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Speaker 1: the nimbleness when balls in the dirt and things of

511
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 1: that nature move, you know, jumping, the quick twitch to

512
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Speaker 1: get out in front of the pitch and things of

513
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Speaker 1: that nature. I would certainly think shortstop, second baseman, outfield

514
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Speaker 1: is tracking a baseball. Outfield is tracking a base And

515
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Speaker 1: see that a lot of a lot of good wide

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Speaker 1: recede receivers. Yeah, I was thinking to jump. He got

517
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Speaker 1: on that and he just kind of knows where the

518
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Speaker 1: ball is gonna come down at every time. I would

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Speaker 1: say the sports that we the most a lot of

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Speaker 1: the kids we recruited from we're had basketball, wrestling, track

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Speaker 1: and field are the most common ones, and it's pretty

522
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Speaker 1: easy to figure out what traits from those. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's great to have a track time, you know, things

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Speaker 1: like that power for you know, wrestlers, and toughness and leverage,

525
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: leverage and stuff, and the throws and track and field

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00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 1: hammer throws and discus or whatever is a real powerful

527
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 1: old line thing. But there wasn't a lot of baseball.

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Speaker 1: But it's interesting that because that would make some sense.

529
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Speaker 1: But We have seen some players, you know, Kyler Murray

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Speaker 1: in particular, that was by There's a lot of those guys, right,

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Speaker 1: there were big time baseball players. And I was gonna

532
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Speaker 1: bring up Kyler because I'm not really picking on them,

533
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: but people talk about his leadership and all that, and

534
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Speaker 1: a lot of people have told me he kind of

535
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Speaker 1: leads like a baseball player, which is a lot more

536
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Speaker 1: sick gular sport. You know, like go out in the

537
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: outfield by yourself, you don't really have to communicate with teammates.

538
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: You come to the plate by yourself that you're kind

539
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: of on your own, not the leader of fifty three guys.

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00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 1: There was communication in baseball. I I got kick on

541
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 1: a sore subject. Outfielders have to talk to everybody has

542
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: to know this like a quarterback. Not quite not not

543
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: to that level of communication. And I've seen some pretty

544
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Speaker 1: good leaders on a baseball team that that guys that

545
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: you know, kind of bring everybody else with him. My

546
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: catcher better talk a lot. I would think catcher. Ketcher

547
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: would be a good football trans as long as these

548
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 1: are still okay, right, Um, But yeah, he's gonna run

549
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: the He's gonna run everything on the field. He's you know,

550
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: he's talking constant. Yeah, like if I were recruiting a

551
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: center and you're like and he was like, boy, I'm

552
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: you know, he happened to be the best catcher, and

553
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: whippiles like, oh, I like that, you know, right, it

554
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: gets low to do the dirty work. They're smart, right,

555
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 1: exactly as long as he his knees still, as long

556
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 1: as he has knees, as said, is a big problem there.

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00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: So we're watching some routes here with the receivers. That's

558
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: something some quick uh quick hitters, quick hitters here, Um,

559
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: this is usually something they setting that up in that

560
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 1: inside a little curl to the inside. George Pickens once

561
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: again gets he gets hansy. Oh yeah, does that worry

562
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: a little bit? He might start getting some flags every

563
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 1: time he's extending that when he's coming in, he's gonna

564
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Speaker 1: get called on that, and of course he's gonna get

565
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Speaker 1: a reputation and you know, yeah, but he physicality is

566
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: not a problem with him walking. You'd rather say exactly

567
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 1: than sick him right, as long as he can reel

568
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: it in. If he's starting to get called yeah, um,

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00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: but he does do that a lot, right, He gets that,

570
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: he gets that arm extended. Um, you know, as long

571
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: as it's below the waist. There's Anthony Miller down there,

572
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: see him in the oh yeah, the harness them. Yeah,

573
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: that's gonna be had high hopes for him too. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: There's tight end routes that are again stuff you didn't

575
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: see much last year. That's ten five about fourteen yard

576
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: deep in you know, just explode off the line of safety, yeah,

577
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: and then cut off of the cut off the uh

578
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: ninety degree angle over the middle of the field. And

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00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: so in that route you're looking to sell that you're

580
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: going down this down the middle. Yeah, if you can

581
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: get and then you break it off. I mean I'm

582
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: just you know, pulling it off top of my head.

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00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: If it's covered too, that's like pretty much right past

584
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Speaker 1: the linebackers, and if those safety start to retreat, you

585
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: break it off in between there in the middle of

586
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Speaker 1: the field. They didn't throw this route very often last year.

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00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: You know. Interesting they also had Claypool run that route

588
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: slot tight ends, Yeah, exactly. So you see a lot

589
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: of these tight ends aligned in the slot. Hayward in particular,

590
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: but muth as well. I don't think Gentry will do

591
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: it a whole heck of a lot. But that is

592
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: absolutely a modern day slot receiver route now. I mean

593
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: Claypool versus Evan Ingram type tight end isn't that much different,

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Speaker 1: that's for sure. He is Matt Williams and I am

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Speaker 1: Dale Lalli. You're listening to the drive here. Uh, I'm

596
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: Steelers training camp. We are live the team getting ready

597
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: to start seven shots and things are about to start

598
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Speaker 1: picking up. Yeah, so we'll we'll see how this goes here.

599
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: We got the starting defense out there right now, um

600
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Speaker 1: looking to see if they're in a nickel or a dime.

601
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Speaker 1: It looks like a nickel right now with Kim Kim

602
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: Sutton being the nickel corner in this situation. And it's

603
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Speaker 1: a wrong direction though they're not going in maybe because

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Speaker 1: they're they're pads today, I don't know. I mean, for

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Speaker 1: those don't know, seven shots is always a going into

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Speaker 1: the end zone type of drill. I wonder if they're

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00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: only gonna do seven here or is this something different

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Speaker 1: coming out of the getting out of the end zone here,

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Speaker 1: because they're on the own seven yard line as if

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Speaker 1: they were backed up. I want to keep an eye

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Speaker 1: on this, like they had been rotating Robert Spleen and

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Speaker 1: Devon Bush throughout training came. I didn't see that yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna keeping might have been hurt. We couldn't find that.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't on the field forever, right right, I want

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Speaker 1: to see if it's just Devin Bush again today. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're in the nickel and bushes out there, but with

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Speaker 1: Jack that time and again they're just they're just thudding

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Speaker 1: here today. Yeah, right, no real live tackling. Um, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if i'd even called the seven shots or

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Speaker 1: it's definitely not seven shots carrying out of the end zone.

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Speaker 1: But well, Matt, we should probably take another breakdown. Let's

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Speaker 1: let's do that. He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Ally.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: Fencent College. We'll be back with more right after this.

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Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: I am Dale Ally here with Matt Williamson, and this

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Speaker 1: is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio. We are alive

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Speaker 1: from Steelers training camp practices here at St. Vincent College,

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Speaker 1: and uh, watching the team it through some eleven on

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Speaker 1: eleven stuff about what would you say three quarter speed? Yeah,

633
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: it's gonna yeah, I mean they're they're barely even thudding

634
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: up or you know that type of thing. Last two

635
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: players by Rudolph I thought were pretty crafty though, and

636
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: the one before he was about to let it go,

637
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: pulled it down real quick and then lead Boykin perfectly

638
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: which would have been a long game, hit him right

639
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: and stride all right. There just was an RPO that incomplete.

640
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: And then before that or after that, he hit Sternberger

641
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: just right and Stride too, and were two nice balls

642
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: well timed. Um held it about like the right amount

643
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: of time in the in the pocket to not holding

644
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: it forever as you can in this drill pick. It

645
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: just got yelled after that, even though the whole the

646
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: whole state, everybody not directed gun Roal shifty down the

647
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: on the field and throw the ball to but he

648
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: had been sacked like four times on the play. Right guy,

649
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: there's four defenders standing round. And then you hear Tomlin's voice,

650
00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: get it out of the right, quit holding the football. Yeah,

651
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: football is not good, not not good. Right, But Rudolph's

652
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: got a nice job with that right over top of

653
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: the good touch road to the sideline there in the

654
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: hole to white. Good couple of reps by Mason. Yeah,

655
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: I mean that's really kind of his Yeah, right, right, right,

656
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: So he's good at this steel is. Yeah, get it

657
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: and get it out. Be smart. And you know we

658
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: had once on ones there. Now we're pass this. That

659
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: was all inside offense, inside the twenty. So we're not

660
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: gonna do seven shots today, apparently not. Maybe because their

661
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: bizarre Maybe because they're not in pads, they're not tackling,

662
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: and there's too many fights in the cast herry about

663
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: who gets the lobster and who doesn't, and what if

664
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: they're game planning at all this week, Maybe that there

665
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: might be some good question game planning going on here.

666
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: And really it's not so they win. It's to teach

667
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: the team how to game plan, how to prepare for

668
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: a week against an NFL in it, you know, and

669
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: will install this. We're gonna make this change, you know.

670
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: Maybe they are. I mean, that's a good way of

671
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: thinking of it, is that they're definitely handling this practice

672
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: thus far much different than they have others. Yeah. Absolutely,

673
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 1: we'll see the offense out here, that was two tight ends.

674
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: That's when he two personnel. Uh, I didn't see. Actually

675
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: there were two receivers and two tight ends. Yeah, no,

676
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: there were three receivers out there, but Chase Claypool was

677
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: lined up in line on that one. Okay, So they're

678
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: moving him even more and more closer to the line

679
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 1: of Scrimma, closer to the ball. Yeah, so they've got

680
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: thirteen person I should say. But yeah, um, but treating

681
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: it like again, that's great, and that causes lots of

682
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: problems if he'll block, you know, I mean, if he

683
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: blocks like he did, notre dame here it is again

684
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 1: he's he's lined up behind Friar with in this situation. Yeah,

685
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,919
Speaker 1: they're doing some different stuff today though. Yeah, definitely. Maybe

686
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: it is a game plan centric thing, some things that

687
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: we're going to see on against the Jaxsonable Jaguars. And

688
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: you gotta think, I mean, if it's Claypool in the

689
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: slot versus Sims in the slot, couldn't be more different, right, right?

690
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 1: I Mean, I don't think you run the same plays

691
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: or the same formations, the same bunches things like that.

692
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: So maybe they're making a little more Claypool centric. Yeah. Um,

693
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: watching Marcus Allen as a helmet today, which is new

694
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 1: over there. He's running on the other field with Alexhigsmith,

695
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: so Highsmith still out at this point. All all though,

696
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: they're pretty healthy going into this game. They really are,

697
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: um you know, starting to uh you know, we'll see

698
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: where they're at coming out of this game. Uh, this

699
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: will be a big one. You don't want to get

700
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: any starters hurt this week, but some will play. I think, yeah, Um,

701
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: see what happens or Sims goes in motion from left

702
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 1: to right and that is a handoff to Naji Harris

703
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: and well yeah, yeah, I mean that's that's a hard,

704
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: hard pometer of was that a successful player or not?

705
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: You know, idea right, they didn't fumble the football, didn't

706
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: fumble the football, No one got hurt, so I guess

707
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: the successful player. But the lineman really aren't banging it

708
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: all today. No, they're not playing scrimmage. In fact, actually

709
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 1: that this is game planning here because if you look

710
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: the defense, they're they've got the card out, they've got

711
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,280
Speaker 1: it's a backup defense. It's the scout team defense. Basically,

712
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: they're acting like the scout team, even with the good

713
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: guys out there and they've got the guy, they've got

714
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: the card out there, and they're showing the defense what

715
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: the alignment is and what the play is. Usually a

716
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: safe bet when the card out that they're game planning

717
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,399
Speaker 1: because that's the other team's plays they're putting on the card,

718
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,879
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, so you'll see more of a four

719
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: three Look here, I'm sure I think the Jaguars are

720
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 1: still for three. UM team, that's a good question. Because

721
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: they made a lot of defensive changes. They may be

722
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: more of a three four lockers such, right, right right.

723
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they're gonna have to second level

724
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: guys a pretty high amount of time. Um, I think

725
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: they're gonna play just about everybody, though I was looking

726
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 1: at this morning. Christian Kirk didn't play. I don't think

727
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: Zay Jones played. Um. Robinson the big back is still

728
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: fighting injury. But they played a t N and all

729
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: the old lineman and Lawrence. I think you'll see all

730
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,919
Speaker 1: those guys. You got ten touches in the first quarter

731
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: the other day, mathematician, but that that would be forty

732
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 1: right right. I don't know that we should uh pro

733
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: rate his his workload is forty touches a game. But

734
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: all the reports have been glowing about him, and I

735
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,439
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be a huge part of their offense. Yeah,

736
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: now I think he will too. Um, but I think

737
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: they'll be a really good test with stealers because they're

738
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 1: gonna play their guys. I know, one looks at it like, K,

739
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: what do you mean? You know, but they have a

740
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: lot to prove and they've got a lot of young guys.

741
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: I mean they're gonna play the first overall pick. They're

742
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: gonna play, you know, the first overall pick the year before,

743
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: you know. So I think those are good, good teams

744
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: to play. Yeah. Absolutely. Another inside hint this from the

745
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: jaaln Warren with the second team. So he's running ahead

746
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: of Benny snow here in this That makes perfect sense

747
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, that fits with what kind of what

748
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: we're projecting weeks ago that uh, you know, he's perhaps

749
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: moved past Benny Snellen. I think he's better runner. Can't

750
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: can't fumble the football though, you can't from a football.

751
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: But you would think he gets a lot of run

752
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 1: in this game, don't you think? Yeah? I would think so. Yeah. Again,

753
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 1: to see what what he's got and uh, can he

754
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: not fumble the football in these situations? Yeah? Yeah, can't

755
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: you count on him? I mean that's what's all about

756
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: his trust reliability, And I always thought that hurt hurt

757
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: McFarland right back. Okay, so he just got done carrying

758
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 1: the football. He ran all the way down, took his

759
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: carry all the way down to the end zone, sprinted

760
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: back to this end of the field, goes over to

761
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: the sideline, picks up the football and touch it away.

762
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 1: Trying to make a good impression of your coach. But no,

763
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: I mean it's more than that. I mean he's he's

764
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: a dedicated guy and you can tell on his style play.

765
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean he's gonna do the little things.

766
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: He wants to help on teams. He wants to get

767
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: better in protection. He's working on all those things and

768
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: he's improving and all those things. He runs hard too.

769
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: I mean watching the game again, I've not watched it

770
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: three times, and he was very active on special teams.

771
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,959
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, very much. So like I think he's

772
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: I didn't project him to be a core special team

773
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 1: or I thought he might be kind of a peripheral guy.

774
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: Might be proving us otherwise he might be a guy

775
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: that has to be out there all the time, which

776
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: is good because you know, guys like George Pickens is

777
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: not gonna play special teams. No, no, none of the

778
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: top of three receivers are. Now they will have the

779
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 1: way that the way they do that. So Mike Tomlin

780
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 1: wants Austin's not gonna run down on kickoffs, back on anybody,

781
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: you know. But what Mike Tomlin wants is everybody to

782
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: at least have some kind of job on special teams.

783
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: And so it's up to Danny Smith then to come

784
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: up with something that those guys are gonna do. And

785
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 1: for George Pickens, it'll probably Hands team that'll be yeah, yeah,

786
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: gonna be out there running down at us. So it's

787
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: kind of a misnomer. We all have a special team's role,

788
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: sure you do, but it has to be a disaster

789
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,479
Speaker 1: situation or a twice a year type situation. I didn't

790
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: thought of the hands team. That's a good one, but

791
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: that's probably true. Yeah, he's not gonna do anything on

792
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 1: the punt team, or he's not gonna be a return er,

793
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,760
Speaker 1: you know. In fact, when they when the offensive lineman

794
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: and defensive lineman come up from the morning walk through,

795
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: which is largely special team stuff at the end. Anyways,

796
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: Pickens is not He comes up the steps with the

797
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: with the veterans. Yeah, he's not in on any of

798
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: that other special team stuff, and he should, you know.

799
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: I mean, why waste the time going through the motions

800
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: down there when you can go back to the room

801
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: and study a little more film, or why waste why

802
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: waste Danny Smith's time? Team exactly if you're not gonna

803
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: have him do. I always think about that from a

804
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: coach's perspective to like, you probably love some of these

805
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 1: dudes in your room that are trying hard, but you

806
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: know deep down they have no chance of making this team.

807
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: But he's still have to coach him, Like, whiddle those

808
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 1: guys down. Let me coach the guys. I'm really going

809
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: to coach and George, we love you, but you're not

810
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: gonna help on special teams. Get out of here. I

811
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: need to coach up. You know, it's thirty. I need

812
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: to coach up, you know, Durant. I need to catch up.

813
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: You know, Heyward, the guys that are new around here

814
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: that are going to be on special teams. So go

815
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: up to the go up there and chill out and

816
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: get your shower. Yeah, rest up, we're gonna need you

817
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: to run up right there aunch of here. Yeah. For

818
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: seventeen games and maybe more. Yeah. Um, I guess his

819
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: odds for a Rookie of the Year have gone down

820
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: offensive Rookie the Year have gone down considerably. So you

821
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: don't make as much on the as much now as

822
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: you were going to make it. When yeah, when we

823
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: said you should bet that last night, and we were right,

824
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: you should bet at that. You should have bet it

825
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: last week. Hopefully you did. I mean, that's not guaranteeing

826
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: you know, win, but you pay off a lot better

827
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: now that the rest of the world hasn't seen what

828
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: it's what he could actually do. That's kind of why

829
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: I brought that out last week, like before he had

830
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: played a game, like, because everybody's gonna catch up on

831
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 1: his stuff, even in fantasy drafts. I'm listening to, uh,

832
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: just some different nacy shows and they're talking about George

833
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: Pickens going in like the ninth round thow and things

834
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: of that nature. So so I I host a podcast

835
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 1: Locked on Dynasty, which is all about Dynasty fantasy of course,

836
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,760
Speaker 1: and it used to be like right after the NFL draft,

837
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: pickings would be like the somewhere between twelve and fourteenth

838
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: rookie overall taken, and that was like the eighth wide receiver.

839
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: It was like him and like sky More were in

840
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: that neighborhood. The conversation we had last night was is

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Speaker 1: picking the pickings the number one rookie receiver? And I said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it was between him and Drake London. And

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Speaker 1: I said I would would not trade London for Pickings.

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Speaker 1: I mean if I had. And what kid came up

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Speaker 1: with was he I just caught it up. So last

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Speaker 1: week it was plus now it's plus eleven. I think

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Speaker 1: that's a big job. It's a fifty difference or more

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Speaker 1: than he is now fifth in the in the UH.

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Speaker 1: The only guys that out of him are Bruese Hall,

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Speaker 1: Crystal love A, sky More, Kenny Pickett, George Pickens. So

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Speaker 1: the Steelers, he's ahead of London too. Steelers have two

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Speaker 1: of the top five offensive rookie of the year. I

853
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Speaker 1: wouldn't pick it, yeah, I mean he's gonna see the field.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's not gonna play week one. I know

855
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Speaker 1: those other guys are gonna play Week one at least.

856
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Speaker 1: I mean after that, who knows, But I mean I

857
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Speaker 1: know he's not gonna be on the field week one,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, we have more team stuff. Maybe this is

859
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Speaker 1: rising up to the charts very quickly. He's not gonna

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Speaker 1: surprise anybody here pretty soon. I mean it's it's not

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Speaker 1: a surprise any longer. He's not sneaking up on anyone. No,

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Speaker 1: not at all. I think his odds even opened if

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Speaker 1: plus thirty five hundred went to and now they're down

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Speaker 1: to MP. You had to be the biggest, absolutely, And

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Speaker 1: you mentioned fantasy. I was listening to us the Established

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Speaker 1: the Run podcast, and every Monday they talk about who's

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Speaker 1: moved the most in these drafts, and he said he's

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Speaker 1: pickings went up like thirty spots in a week. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because he was the bottom of rosters. Obviously, now he's

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Speaker 1: on every roster. Now, all of a sudden, he's the

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Speaker 1: next thing. He fifth round fantasy draft, right, another couple

872
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Speaker 1: of crazy games. Will he'd be a first round dynasty

873
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Speaker 1: pick now? Not rookie? Yes, yes, rookie. He's like the

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Speaker 1: second or third overall. Hall is the only one that

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Speaker 1: definitely goes ahead of him. Then it's either Walker London Pickens.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's right there in terms of the rookies,

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Speaker 1: and not in a startup that dynasty draft. I mean

878
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Speaker 1: justin Jefferson, I mean, Joe mar Change, you know those guys. Um.

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Speaker 1: But no, he's skyrocketing right now. Um, any chance you

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Speaker 1: would take him over Claypool for re draft? I can't

881
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Speaker 1: go there yet. I mean, it's not a knock on Pickens.

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Speaker 1: But if he's I think he's still the three I think,

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Speaker 1: I think. I mean we don't know that, but I

884
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 1: mean they play so much eleven there with three receivers

885
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Speaker 1: on the field. It's hard to tell. And it's stuff

886
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: to tell too because really Claypool have been out right

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Speaker 1: and they haven't been on the field together all that

888
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Speaker 1: much to begin with. So yeah, we just don't know yet.

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Speaker 1: We'll see. We'll have much better grasp on that. I

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Speaker 1: think after Saturdays. Yeah, probably. You know, is he out

891
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Speaker 1: there in two receiver sets early on? Yeah? And you

892
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 1: know what's the snap counts. He's gonna play more snaps

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Speaker 1: I would think than I would assume, but maybe not.

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Speaker 1: It'll be volumes if he doesn't. If he's out there

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Speaker 1: as long as mitches and that's it. Well he's a starter. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and say that if he's if him in deante of

897
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Speaker 1: the same snap counts, Well, yeah, they look at those guys, right,

898
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Speaker 1: right right. I mean you learn a lot of that stuff. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: That's why you pay attention fantasy football. I know some

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Speaker 1: people look down their noses at that that stuff, and

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00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: you know, especially a lot of the beat writers. I

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Speaker 1: look at it constantly, even beyond stuff like looking up

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Speaker 1: things for my own Yeah. Yeah, I used fantasy football

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Speaker 1: as a tool, uh, in many ways in my writing.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's all kinds of stats out there that

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Speaker 1: that it's comes so far, so fast. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: unbelievably popular. It's a huge red zone targets and right right,

908
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: right right, it's a huge business. As everyone knows now too.

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00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: I mean everyone knows some plays or everyone listening plays well,

910
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: give or take. And there's been so many good analysts

911
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Speaker 1: now that come up with new new ideas for this stuff.

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Speaker 1: And I quote Dayne McFarland a lot because he's really

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Speaker 1: good at usage. You know, he looks at these guys,

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Speaker 1: he's like, well he's a twenty target chair, that's not

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Speaker 1: enough for you to start him. But if he's a

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Speaker 1: twenty six. You can you know, like it doesn't sound

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Speaker 1: like anything, but that's a big deal. I mean it's

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Speaker 1: a you know, target share and things like that. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot of tools there that I use in my

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Speaker 1: writing and my analysis all the time. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: do that work. I'm not gonna chart everyone's target chairs.

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Speaker 1: You know, somebody else do it for right. He is

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. I am Dale Ali. We are live from

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Speaker 1: Steelers training camp here at St. Vincent College. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: take a break. We could be back with our two

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Speaker 1: live from Steelers training camp right after this on ESPN

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