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Speaker 1: Welcome to She Pivots, the podcast where we talk with

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Speaker 1: women who dared to pivot out of one career and

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Speaker 1: Our conversation truly covers it all. Thank you so much

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Speaker 2: For those who may be new to me, to she Pivots, we.

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Speaker 3: Told me that growing up.

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Speaker 5: She told my sister and I that we came from

447
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Speaker 5: a resilient stock, that we were from the lineage of

448
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:40,160
Speaker 5: hundreds of years of fighters and warriors, and I think

449
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:41,400
Speaker 5: I was raised by a wolf pack.

450
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Speaker 4: Working out is actually my life's work is astonishing, definitely

451
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 4: to me and everyone around me.

452
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Speaker 1: How did it go from running a couple of blocks

453
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 1: to then turn into it sounds like almost a form

454
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Speaker 1: of therapy for you one percent.

455
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Speaker 3: It was moving therapy, There's no question about it. It became.

456
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Speaker 4: So I actually saw a flyer at a bank. So

457
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Speaker 4: this is before like even palm Pilot or like Blackberries,

458
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 4: like you had to like sit at a computer to

459
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Speaker 4: like research something at that point.

460
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 3: So I was at the bank depositing an actual check.

461
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Speaker 4: I saw a flyer at the bank for a ten

462
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,200
Speaker 4: k that was happening the next morning. I did not

463
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 4: google how far a ten k was. I just showed

464
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Speaker 4: up at the Art Museum Steps in Philadelphia and I said,

465
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Speaker 4: I'm here for the ten k. I registered on site

466
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,920
Speaker 4: and I nearly died and I crossed that finish shine,

467
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 4: and I said, that will never happen again, that will

468
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 4: never be that hard again.

469
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Speaker 3: So I did some ruderentary training.

470
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Speaker 4: And then a half turned into a half marathon, and

471
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Speaker 4: that half marathon after a breakup, turned into a marathon.

472
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Speaker 4: So yeah, literally it was like, I ran the half marathon,

473
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 4: broke up with my ex boyfriend, and then I was like, yeah,

474
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 4: that fall marathon sounds real nice. So I just like

475
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 4: literally kept running and it was therapy. It was there

476
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 4: was something really magical that was happening. During the runs,

477
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Speaker 4: it was abysmal, but after the runs, I.

478
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Speaker 3: Was like, oh, oh, like this is the there's.

479
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Speaker 4: Something heroic about this, Like I feel like a hero

480
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,959
Speaker 4: when I'm done.

481
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 3: And I thought, I want to live a life that

482
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Speaker 3: is filled with that, and movement became a real tool

483
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Speaker 3: for that experience. Movement has changed my life.

484
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Speaker 4: Movement has unlocked a wellspring of confidence. It's not an

485
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Speaker 4: athlete at all, and I think that goes to the

486
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Speaker 4: power of reinvent the power of curiosity. And I didn't

487
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 4: discover movement until much later in life as an adult,

488
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Speaker 4: when I joined Peloton and started running marathons and ultra marathons,

489
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Speaker 4: and I.

490
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Speaker 1: Look at my So to go from the tool, the process,

491
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Speaker 1: the movement therapy to actually turning us into a career.

492
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Speaker 1: You said there wasn't actually kind of one like Jerry

493
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 1: maguire moment. It was a progression. But what were those

494
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 1: concrete steps that you took.

495
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Speaker 4: I've talked previously about setting a calendar appointment for ten

496
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Speaker 4: minutes a day, and it was in those recurring calendar

497
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Speaker 4: appointments with myself that I would google, you know, what

498
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 4: does an editor at a magazine do? Like, what does

499
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 4: just anybody even tangentially related to sports journalism or sports

500
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 4: in general. I didn't have illusions that I was going

501
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 4: to be like some Olympic athlete or something, So I

502
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 4: was like, what do the people around these people do?

503
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Speaker 3: And that was how it started. It started really humbly.

504
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 4: But intentionally and consistently. And that's when I realized that

505
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 4: little by little can amount to a lot, and that

506
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 4: we can unstick ourselves like there is like a stasis

507
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,679
Speaker 4: that we there's like an inertia that we can sometimes

508
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 4: find ourselves in.

509
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 3: Fear is often very paralyzing, and we.

510
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 4: Tell ourselves the story that one small moment isn't going

511
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Speaker 4: to take us out of that feeling of inertia, and

512
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,919
Speaker 4: I realized I called myself on my own BS and

513
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 4: I just said, try try something, And that trying ended

514
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 4: up like planting tons of seats, and just in the mean,

515
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 4: I would say I probably sent out literally thousands of emails,

516
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 4: like thousands of requests, like thousands of Google.

517
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Speaker 3: Searches over the two years. And then finally I took

518
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Speaker 3: a leave of absence from my law firm.

519
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Speaker 1: She left Paul Hastings to start a tumbler called Shut

520
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 1: Up and Run, which eventually became the title of her

521
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 1: first book. Social media as a means of reporting was

522
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: just starting to take off, so believing that was good enough,

523
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Speaker 1: she booked a ticket to London to cover the games.

524
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Speaker 4: I slept on my friend's couch for the entirety of

525
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 4: the games for three weeks, and I had a cracked

526
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 4: iPhone and I just blogged it. And I reached out

527
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 4: to athletes, like professional athletes who are now collaborators and

528
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 4: friends of mine.

529
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Speaker 3: But I was so bold, like I didn't know what

530
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Speaker 3: I didn't know. So I was just like, Hey, what's up.

531
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Speaker 3: I love running, you want to talk about it?

532
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Speaker 2: And I'm not.

533
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Speaker 4: Kidding like that is what I did all through London,

534
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 4: and people were trying to talk about like this girl

535
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,640
Speaker 4: who just rocked up and like red lipstick and lots

536
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 4: of gold rings and big hoops and just wanted to

537
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 4: talk about running. And I was like, yeah, what's up on, Robin,

538
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 4: It's me And I made business.

539
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 3: Cards and everything like I was fully.

540
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Speaker 4: Oh my god, these business cards are so embarrassing now,

541
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 4: but there were like these tiny little strips of paper

542
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 4: with my tumbler on it, and I was fully of

543
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 4: walking around London just like. But I left with a job,

544
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 4: so I had to quit my law firm job to

545
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Speaker 4: take this extended leave to go to London.

546
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Speaker 3: So I went to London without a job. Left London.

547
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 4: So I was in a Nike store and the then

548
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 4: CEO of Nike came up to me and he was like, wow,

549
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 4: you have a great style.

550
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Speaker 3: You should consider writing about like sports fashion. And I

551
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 3: was like, well, funny that you should say that. Here's

552
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 3: my business card.

553
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 2: And you can find my tumbler on it.

554
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 4: And I ended up leaving with a job working on

555
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 4: the agency side where Nike Women was my client and

556
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 4: I was helping run their social media accounts.

557
00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 3: So I truly thought I had my dream job.

558
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 4: Six months after that, I realized that the storytelling piece

559
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 4: that I was so in love with really needed to

560
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 4: be infused with my own movement and my own perspective

561
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 4: in order for it to be fulfilling to me. And

562
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 4: I had developed a burgeoning audience on social media at

563
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 4: the time, so I thought, Okay, like what if we

564
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 4: make this even bigger? And you know, I started doing

565
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 4: more ultra marathons and I started writing my book, and

566
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 4: then later Peldon came into the picture. But yeah, during

567
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 4: this time, it was just lots of risks and lots

568
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 4: of jumping off cliffs.

569
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Speaker 3: But there wasn't one aha home moment. There were thousands.

570
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Speaker 4: I mean, it was like a masterclass in social media

571
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Speaker 4: and like how a big brand navigates that. So that

572
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 4: was really that was a I mean, I definitely walked

573
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 4: away with a pretty intense toolkit. So I'm grateful for

574
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 4: that experience, and I think that's why I had that experience.

575
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 4: But you also have to sometimes have things in life

576
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 4: that are definite knows, so you even know what the

577
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 4: yes is supposed to look like. And then I also

578
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Speaker 4: I was running with a crew called Bridge Runners. There's

579
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Speaker 4: still they still rock in downtown. One of the oldest

580
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 4: runs and Cruise in the world, the original Run Crew

581
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 4: actually in the world. And Run Crew is a kind

582
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 4: of underground rogue meet up at ten o'clock at night

583
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 4: on the Brooklyn Bridge. Like I mean, were just very rogue.

584
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 4: It was like DJs and creators and fashion designers and

585
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 4: drug dealers. I mean, it was all kinds of folks,

586
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 4: all kinds of folks. And they were my friends, and

587
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 4: they were unapologetic, and they were you know, they would

588
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 4: do marathons and ultra marathons, but they weren't traditional, they

589
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 4: weren't considered traditional athletes. And so they gave me permission

590
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 4: to show up in the ways that I show up

591
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 4: in the world. And that was very interesting to a

592
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 4: lot of the brands at the time, a lot of

593
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 4: the athletic brands. And so I would be tapped to

594
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 4: go for coffee with like a marketing exec and like

595
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 4: pick my brain, and then I would very gratefully receive,

596
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 4: you know, a really nice package in the mail of

597
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 4: like shoes or whatever.

598
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 3: And obviously that's an amazing gift.

599
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 4: But I also had rent and I realized, like with

600
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 4: my lawyer background, I was like, oh, so if I

601
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 4: charged this much billable hourly rate as a lawyer, and

602
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 4: I know that the brands have money for.

603
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 3: Campaigns, They're going to start paying me.

604
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 4: And so that was another pivot, another way I had

605
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 4: to bet on myself.

606
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 3: I was obviously told no many times, but I.

607
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 4: Held out for the right yesis and that really provided

608
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 4: an important bridge to my ability to become a business.

609
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Speaker 1: Do you think that leaving to become to like kind

610
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: of bet on yourself. Leaving that was maybe harder or

611
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: less hard, I guess than leaving law altogether.

612
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 4: Definitely harder because in this at this time, I was

613
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 4: cobbling together. You know, after I left the agency, I

614
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 4: was like teaching spin, writing my book, coaching runners. It

615
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 4: was just very much like a Hodgepodge entrepreneur life that

616
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 4: was not glamorous, and I had no idea what I

617
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 4: was doing and I was completely making it up.

618
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Speaker 1: I feel like that's a conversation that we have a

619
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: lot with women who are thinking about pivoting either maybe

620
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: into a different career, into a different kind or out

621
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: for a time and then back in. But that there's

622
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: not one formula, and then you have to figure out

623
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: how much risk you can take in that moment, and

624
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: so maybe it's a wholesale change, maybe it's a partial change,

625
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: but everybody has to figure out like what their risk

626
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: assessment is in that very moment, which it sounds like,

627
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: is what you were doing?

628
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually did what I call a four part audit.

629
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 4: I call it that now, and like as I was

630
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 4: developing my masterclass on mental toughness, I finessed that a

631
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 4: little bit more.

632
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 3: But the audit was really like a brass tax.

633
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 4: It was like financial, you know, like what dollars and

634
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 4: cents do I need to make all this work? It

635
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 4: was like a spiritual existential like who am I?

636
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,959
Speaker 3: What am I doing? You know, post trauma, just twenty

637
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 3: mid twenties, Like what are we doing here?

638
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 4: Then physical it's like how am I feeling in my

639
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 4: physical body? Like what is the energy as currency that

640
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 4: I'm going to give to the world. And of course

641
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 4: this was a very athletic pursuit. My business was athletics,

642
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 4: so that was important. The fourth piece was kind of

643
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 4: what kind of community do I want to build in

644
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 4: the world, Like what's the value system that I want

645
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 4: to be the connective.

646
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 3: Tissue and that kind of relates to the other things too.

647
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 4: I guess that's a little bit related to the existential piece,

648
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 4: but that also needed to answer how I wanted to

649
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 4: feel when I arrived at this perceived destination. So that

650
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 4: piece was the more the most compelling question, because I

651
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 4: think when we're in between, when.

652
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 3: We're feeling that friction and that feeling of.

653
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 4: Like I need to get unstuck, we might focus on

654
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 4: a title or somebody else's definition of an achievement or

655
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 4: business that has certain accolades, but we don't often a

656
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 4: visualize ourselves in that thing, Like I would visualize myself

657
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 4: honestly in spaces like this and think about the contours

658
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 4: of what that would feel like and look like. But

659
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 4: I don't think we always ask ourselves the question of, like,

660
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,719
Speaker 4: how do I want that to feel like?

661
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 3: When I would think about okay in this new world.

662
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 4: Of whatever this is for you? When your head hits

663
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 4: the pillow at night, what do you feel.

664
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 3: About your day?

665
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 5: Like?

666
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Speaker 4: Those are the things, the qualitative things that I would

667
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Speaker 4: ask myself write in journal journals and vision boards were

668
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 4: huge for me. So those are the kind of reflexive

669
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 4: questions that I was asking myself at the time and

670
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 4: still do.

671
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 2: So why Peloton and how Peloton?

672
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 4: So I did a vision board and in the business

673
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 4: quadrant was disruptive technology, and I didn't even know what

674
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 4: that meant.

675
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 3: I had like a picture of like an Apple computer.

676
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 3: I didn't know what that meant. I knew that what I.

677
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,479
Speaker 4: Was I was teaching spin at a local spin studio

678
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 4: in Union Square. I thought this has to scale, Like,

679
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 4: there's like four people in here tonight and I'm.

680
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 3: Gonna give you my all, honey, and we're gonna slay it.

681
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 4: But I was like this, this, this, there's kind of

682
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 4: even more here. And then I read an article about Pelton.

683
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 4: It was a blurb in a technology magazine and really

684
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 4: small bird.

685
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 3: But I don't think I would have noticed.

686
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 4: I don't think my interest would have peaked if it

687
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 4: hadn't been for the vision board. And then so I

688
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 4: reached out like their info at email. It was Pelton's

689
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 4: cycle at the time, and I was in that same

690
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 4: week to meet like the fifteen people that worked.

691
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 3: At the company.

692
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 2: Wait, so who answers the info?

693
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 3: I think it was like the community lead.

694
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, she asked me in the audition, and our former

695
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 4: CEO was there, and it was like the whole thing.

696
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: Do you remember exactly what you wrote in that email?

697
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: Like did you say Hello, I'm Robin and I'm going

698
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: to blow your mind?

699
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 4: Now I think I specific I probably have that email somewhere, Gosha,

700
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 4: I have to find it.

701
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,719
Speaker 3: Actually might have been my MSN email. Oh I got

702
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 3: this embarrassing. So yeah, I remember writing something to the effect.

703
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 4: I do a lot of drafts in my notes of

704
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 4: important notes and memos and emails and things, and I

705
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 4: did have like some text of the copy that said,

706
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 4: like our business objectives were aligned. And then I wanted

707
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 4: to storytell and be a fire starter for people around

708
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 4: the world. And I really saw the global scale, like

709
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 4: the Art New York City studio wasn't even open.

710
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 3: Yet, and I was like, yeah, we're about to run

711
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:05,719
Speaker 3: this shit. Okay, there's nothing in the world like what

712
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 3: we do at Peloton.

713
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 2: Peloton is the greatest thing ever to exist.

714
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 5: The boy.

715
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 2: It's sold by the company Peloton, which reportedly now has

716
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 2: more customers than even the sping Giant Soul Cycle.

717
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 3: What would you say is Peloton's biggest competitive advantage today?

718
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: The brand is golden and the user experiences platinum and

719
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: always has been many and then right before you started

720
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Speaker 1: at Peloton, so now you've positioned yourself as physical well

721
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Speaker 1: being health as being core to your brand.

722
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Speaker 2: You had a bit of a health surprise.

723
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Speaker 4: Yes, Actually, a few weeks before I started at Peloton,

724
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 4: I had already accepted the job.

725
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 3: I had already planned a trip.

726
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 4: To visit my sister, who was living in India at

727
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 4: the time, and I came back feeling super lethargic and fatigued,

728
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 4: and just I didn't understand what I was feeling, super

729
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 4: run down, and I took a blood test and I

730
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 4: found out that I am a type one diabetic and

731
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 4: my pangrease doesn't produce insulin.

732
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 3: So at some point in those few I had.

733
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 4: Stopped producing insulent or producing very little insolent and autoimmune

734
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 4: condition that could not have been predicted. And I thought,

735
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 4: oh my gosh, I'm on the precipice of this amazing

736
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 4: job that is physical, it's in front of cameras.

737
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 3: I've never done this before.

738
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 4: And I also had an ultra marathon a few weeks

739
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 4: after my diagnosis, and I was like, I'm just gonna

740
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 4: have to figure this out. And the doctors who I

741
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 4: was seeing at the time were extremely They had I

742
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 4: think they had very good intentions, but they were questioning

743
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 4: like who was this very quizically, who is this unicorn?

744
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 4: And why does she think that she's going to run

745
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 4: an ultra marathon and get on TV tomorrow?

746
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 3: And I thought, okay, well I'm just going to show you.

747
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 4: So I had to educate myself and I had to

748
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 4: find the right partners in my care and I just

749
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 4: I had really had to treat myself, honestly, like a

750
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 4: science experiment because there weren't many people doing what I

751
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 4: wanted to do physically.

752
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 3: And I did. I did figure it out, thankfully, but

753
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 3: it was hard.

754
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Speaker 1: I can only imagine feeling like you've left this career,

755
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: you've bet on yourself and it's all centered around and

756
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: being physically able. Yeah, was that a moment that you

757
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: were actually questioning the path that you went down?

758
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 3: Not really, No, I didn't question it at all. I

759
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 3: did question.

760
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 4: I mean, there was so much unknown, right, so when

761
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,439
Speaker 4: you're when you are, I have.

762
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 3: To think like a pancreas.

763
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 4: So the average type one diabetic makes an additional two

764
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty to three hundred and fifty decisions a

765
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 4: day related to my livelihood, related to my ability to

766
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 4: live and so when you add the complicated elements of

767
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 4: fueling and physical activity, blood sugar going too high, too low,

768
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 4: that's a lot. And I just decided, like, this is

769
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 4: just going to be part of my business now, like

770
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 4: now you are the business manager of your pancreas, like

771
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 4: I just had to like really just be very practical

772
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 4: about it.

773
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Speaker 3: And I mean it was really it was. It was

774
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 3: certainly a lot.

775
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 4: It was a steep learning curve, and I think it

776
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 4: always is even now, even though I have amazing control.

777
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 4: The reason I didn't question it is because I had

778
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 4: so much body awareness and so much understanding already of

779
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 4: how food, how my body reacts to food, how I

780
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 4: was already able to think critically around those leavers that

781
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 4: would be relevant.

782
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 3: To my care.

783
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 4: So now I just needed to kind of add a

784
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 4: layer of technology and education onto it.

785
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 3: And once I did that, it was all it was okay.

786
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: In your classes, you have a lot of mantras that

787
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: you repeat that you come back to.

788
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 3: Let's polish our crowds, baby, so let's go ahead and

789
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 3: bring the love and.

790
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 1: Baby, and you share quite a bit about yourself, which

791
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: I don't know it was necessarily the model at the time.

792
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: How did you decide to be so vulnerable in opening

793
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: up so much of yourself to your classes and how

794
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: did you decide what gets shared and what stays for you?

795
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well the second part of your question, I

796
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 4: guess the filter. I think that's something that we all

797
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 4: kind of wrestle with, you know, to the extent that

798
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 4: we all have public lives on social media platforms or

799
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 4: in business spaces or with coworkers whoever.

800
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 3: But you know, part of it, of the of the sharing,

801
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 3: and then just being myself was.

802
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 4: Honestly like I didn't survive to shrink, like I didn't

803
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 4: survive and really fight for my own confidence and power

804
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 4: after being held at gunpoint to be anybody but myself period.

805
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 4: And then when I add to it, I'm really proud

806
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 4: to be a Latina.

807
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 3: My mother is a Cuban refugee.

808
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 4: My father is like the real life goodwill hunting, Like

809
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 4: he was a janitor at Acunity school that wasn't accepted

810
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 4: and then just started auditing classes and showed up for

811
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 4: tests and the teachers like, you're not a student here.

812
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 4: He's like not yet. It was wild, Like my dad's

813
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 4: story is wild too. So anyway, growing up with those stories.

814
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 4: It emboldens me in a way that how dare I not?

815
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 4: It's like, how dare I not? And so I think

816
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 4: when we story tell, when we share appropriately, right like

817
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 4: with contacts like anchored in community building, you find your

818
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 4: people like you're able to.

819
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 3: Find your people.

820
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 4: So I said, Okay, I'm just going to be a

821
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 4: beacon and we're going to find each other. And if

822
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 4: it's not for you, just keep it moving.

823
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 2: I love that you Know you mentioned your parents here.

824
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: Do you find that now that as you've become a parent,

825
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: you find that there's things in your parents and you're like, well,

826
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: I never thought I would do that. And then okay,

827
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: now my mother, like do you find that? Do you

828
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: find little things like that?

829
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 4: Well, anytime I listened to like hours on end of NPR,

830
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 4: I realize that I.

831
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 3: Have become my mother. I used to bemoan the hours

832
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 3: of NPR in the.

833
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 4: Car growing up, and I'm like, oh my god, I'm

834
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 4: literally her. But yes, I have moments like that all

835
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 4: the time. I had no preconceived notions of what kind

836
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 4: of parent I would be. I just really try to

837
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 4: be in any chapter of my life and just bring

838
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 4: my value system.

839
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 3: And if I don't know it. I'll figure it out.

840
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 4: It's just my game plan for everything. But of course

841
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 4: you understand. I think when you become a parent, you

842
00:39:55,440 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 4: understand the breadth of the humanity of just raising humans,

843
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 4: and you have much more compassion for you know, the

844
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 4: limitations that our own parents had.

845
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: I mean the limitations when I look at the amount

846
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 1: of things that you do, like not just teaching classes

847
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: on your own, having a corporate role within the organization

848
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: at Peloton, building a family, and then also your business

849
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: is okay, we've got the new web three platform, Swagger Society,

850
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: your third book. I really marvel at the amount of

851
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: things that you have done. Where do you find the

852
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: energy for all of these things? Where do you find

853
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: the time for all of these things?

854
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 3: Well, it's all about choices, right. Time is a currency.

855
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 4: So I'm really very prudent and intentional with how I

856
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 4: spend my time.

857
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 3: But honestly, the energy piece is it's back to basics.

858
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,919
Speaker 4: It's it's not a sexy answer, Like I get asked

859
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 4: this question a lot, and it's like you're.

860
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 3: Feeling around down.

861
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 4: Okay, have you had a glass of water and consumed

862
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 4: a vegetable in the last twenty.

863
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 2: Four hours, like.

864
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 4: Really, you know, I mean obviously like get yourself checked out,

865
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 4: your blood work, da.

866
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 2: Da da.

867
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 3: But like we know what to do. It's just when

868
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 3: we're in the throes of life that we don't do

869
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 3: it right. And we know it.

870
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: We know it.

871
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 3: How many podcasts, how many books, even if they're my books?

872
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 3: Are you going to read before you're like, yeah, I

873
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 3: know what to do, you know. So I take care.

874
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 4: Of those things, like I control the controllables. I feel

875
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 4: pretty impeccably, you know. For me, I sleep minimum nine

876
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 4: hours a night. Like once Athena was sleeping through the night.

877
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 3: It's like goodbye. I sleep nine hours period.

878
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 4: And Drew and I my husband, I really really create

879
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,439
Speaker 4: care that our home is like high vibration, Like there's

880
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 4: a single person that has passed that threshold into our

881
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 4: home that isn't of that same energy system.

882
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 3: We take it really seriously. So I keep my circle small.

883
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 3: You know.

884
00:41:55,280 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 4: My social interactions are high vibration, really intentional events, and

885
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 4: that fuels me and.

886
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 3: Fuels my spirit. And I revisit that audit.

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Speaker 4: That I did as a lawyer often and I think,

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Speaker 4: like I'm in X season of my life. Now, what

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Speaker 4: pieces kind of need to bend so I don't break.

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Speaker 3: And I'm also I ask for what I need. I

891
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Speaker 3: don't martyr myself to any area of my life. I

892
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Speaker 3: don't bemoan. Oh I'm this person. Oh I'm an executive.

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Speaker 3: Oh I'm a mom.

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Speaker 4: There are elements of each of those roles that can

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Speaker 4: be really hard. But I have to have critical conversations

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Speaker 4: with myself and the stakeholders in my life and say, like,

897
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Speaker 4: this doesn't work with me.

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Speaker 3: This does. And when I show up with the.

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Speaker 4: Right energy and the right intention, people make money, We

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Speaker 4: get to finish lines, and we achieve what we set

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Speaker 4: out to achieve. But that's not going to be done

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Speaker 4: if I dilute myself and I learn that.

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Speaker 3: You know, I've made mistakes along the way, and I've learned.

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Speaker 2: That, So saying no must be a piece of that.

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Speaker 3: It's my favorite sentence. No, It's a complete sentence.

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Speaker 4: I love it, and I absolutely think that we should

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Speaker 4: become more comfortable saying no because the lukewarm yes is

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Speaker 4: as I think what, I think, it can really erode community.

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Speaker 3: Actually, I think it can really erode businesses.

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Speaker 4: The lukewarm yes, the yes that said without a true

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Speaker 4: understanding of purpose, and obligation.

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Speaker 1: I think so many people come to your classes and

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Speaker 1: the conversation that you bring for a support for them,

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Speaker 1: like a cheerleader for them. So, when you're looking to

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Speaker 1: evaluate a new opportunity or feeling like you're not so

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Speaker 1: sure how to enter a new space, what does that

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Speaker 1: personal board of directors look like for you?

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Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh, there's a lot, you know.

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Speaker 4: Thankfully, I have now befriended like some folks who you

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Speaker 4: know in previous iterations of Robin, you know, I just

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Speaker 4: read about them in books or listen to their podcasts,

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Speaker 4: you know, so I can lean on some pretty amazing

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Speaker 4: titans of industry now that I'm very fortunate to call friends.

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Speaker 4: And I actually my husband and my family are like

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Speaker 4: my og wolf pack. And even if they might not

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Speaker 4: understand like all the contours of a business decision or

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Speaker 4: what I'm actually experiencing in the day to day, they

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Speaker 4: know me. They know my value system, they know my objectives,

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Speaker 4: so that sometimes that just is enough of a touch base.

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Speaker 3: For me to make the decision on my own.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So with all of these businesses, all of the adventures,

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Speaker 1: all of the ventures, I feel like the question is,

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Speaker 1: why are you going to stop pivoting.

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Speaker 4: Literally never, I will always pivot. I mean, it's such

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Speaker 4: a beautiful I'm so glad that this is the pod

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Speaker 4: because we have such a capacity to iterate, and I

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Speaker 4: think that that's so freeing when we give ourselves permission

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Speaker 4: to self define a finish line. I find that really

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Speaker 4: liberating because it means that you can always course correct.

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Speaker 4: And the pivot for me is that a full conversation

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Speaker 4: that we're able to have with ourselves to ask like

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Speaker 4: is this as good as it guests?

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Speaker 2: But if it could be better?

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Speaker 3: And why not me?

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Speaker 4: And that requires I think that our greatest moments lie

946
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Speaker 4: in that little bit of tension, that little bit of friction,

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Speaker 4: Like there are moments of like that little bit of

948
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Speaker 4: friction where we're like back to that monkey Bar's analogy,

949
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Speaker 4: like should I and.

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Speaker 3: I live for that?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so I have to ask you my favorite question

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Speaker 1: to wrap up this conversation, which I.

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Speaker 2: Don't want to wrap up.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk to you all night, and I

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Speaker 1: think this audience wants to hear from you all night,

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Speaker 1: but I do, unfortunately, have to have to end. So

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Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you my favorite question, which is

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Speaker 1: what is one thing in your life that at the

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Speaker 1: time you saw it as just a total low, and

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Speaker 1: now in retrospect you see that it launched you into greatness.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So I believe failure is feedback.

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Speaker 4: During that time period when I was I had left

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Speaker 4: the age and see, but before I joined Peloton, I

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Speaker 4: was like, Okay, I'm going to become a leggings an

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Speaker 4: athletic word designer. And I invested money, I hired, I

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Speaker 4: had fab I mean, I was going. I was like

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Speaker 4: gonna go to Asia. I mean, it was like a

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Speaker 4: whole thing. It was like, I'm fresh designer now, and.

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Speaker 3: If anybody's a fashion is that's not how it worked.

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Speaker 3: You just that doesn't that does this.

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Speaker 2: Not how it works?

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Speaker 4: So I poured a lot of money into this, and

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Speaker 4: then I just ended up with reams of fabrics that

974
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Speaker 4: in my East Village apartment that never got made apart.

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Speaker 3: From like two ill fitting samples. And I realized this

976
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Speaker 3: isn't it. I had to go.

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Speaker 4: I knew in that moment I had to like go

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Speaker 4: full force into this. This wasn't a side hustle. I

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Speaker 4: realized that really quickly. I was like, there's no side

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Speaker 4: hustle into this. You have zero background in this. It

981
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Speaker 4: would have been achievable, but it would have been my

982
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Speaker 4: whole life. I wouldn't be sitting here talking to you

983
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Speaker 4: in that capacity, in this capacity, So that felt like

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Speaker 4: a big failure. It was a financial investment that did

985
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Speaker 4: not pan out, and you know, it was the thing

986
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Speaker 4: that I thought was going to be my next mark

987
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Speaker 4: and I had to sit with that mistake and you

988
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Speaker 4: know the bank account balance that was no longer as big,

989
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Speaker 4: but because I didn't have the next thing yet, I just.

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Speaker 3: Had to sit with it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And speaking of pivots, that taught me that pivoting

992
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Speaker 4: is different than failing, Like intentionally saying I'm course correcting

993
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Speaker 4: this no longer works isn't the same as never reaching

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Speaker 4: the finish line. Like in racing, there's something called DNF,

995
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Speaker 4: like you do not finish, and it could happen for

996
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Speaker 4: any number of reasons, injury being a primary one of them.

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Speaker 4: They're very valid reasons for dnfing. But in my mind

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Speaker 4: it's always been like, you must finish. DNF is not

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Speaker 4: an option, and so it felt like a DNF to me,

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Speaker 4: like qualitatively, and now in retrospect, I'm like, thank goodness,

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Speaker 4: because there's no way you could have done all these

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Speaker 4: other things if you hadn't pulled the plug on that.

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Speaker 3: That was the right call.

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Speaker 4: So it's a good example to me that some pivots,

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Speaker 4: she needs to be intentional and well before the finish line.

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Speaker 1: I love that so much. The perfect note for us

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Speaker 1: to end on. Thank you Robin so much for joining us.

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Speaker 1: It's been so incredible, so incredible to have you. Robin

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Speaker 1: is due with baby number two any day now, and

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Speaker 1: we're so excited for her. Since our interview, Robin has

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Speaker 1: continued to leave Peloton in her roles as VP of

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Speaker 1: Fitness Programming and as head instructor. You can catch her

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Speaker 1: thirty plus weeks pregnant on the bike. Be sure to

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Speaker 1: follow Robin and her many ventures on Instagram at Robin NYC,

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Speaker 1: and you can get her books Strong Baby and Strong

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Speaker 1: Mama anywhere you buy books. I know my kids love them.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to this episode of She Pivots, where

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Speaker 1: I talk with women about how their experiences and significant

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Speaker 1: personal events led to their pivot and eventually their success.

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Speaker 3: Be sure to.

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Speaker 1: Follow us on Instagram at She Pivots the podcast and

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Speaker 1: leave a rating and comment if you enjoyed this episode

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Speaker 1: to help others learn about it. A special thank you

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Speaker 1: to our partner Marie Claire and the team that made

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Speaker 1: this episode possible.

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Speaker 2: Talk to you next week.

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Speaker 1: She Pivots is hosted by me Emily Tish Sussman, produced

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Speaker 1: Nina Pollock and research and planning from Christine Dickinson and

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Speaker 1: Hannah Cousins.

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