1 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: What to do. 2 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: Everybody should bought Bubba Dub. Welcome to the Bubble Dub Show. 3 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 2: I know I've been promising, y'all. I'm telling y'all, I 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 2: was bringing the legend to the show. What here he 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 2: is today? Ladies and gentlemen and Tokyo talf everybody give 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: it up for talk everybody. 7 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 3: Man, what's good? Fam? How you doing? 8 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 4: Man? I'm doing good. Thanks for having me both. Nah. 9 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 4: I appreciate it. 10 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 3: Nah, I appreciate you. 11 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 4: Man. 12 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 2: I just want to Hey, hey, let's just die straight 13 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 2: into it. Tab Let's die straight into it. From Orlando, Florida, 14 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 2: thirty one wins, twenty two big knockout, six losses. 15 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 3: Let's take us back. 16 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 2: For men, before we get into everything that was gravy. 17 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 2: Let's take us back, take us back when the all 18 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: started at talk. 19 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 4: Let's take us back. Man. 20 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: It's night Southwest Boys and Girls Club, Orlando, Florida. Man, 21 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: coming from Ilany, Atlanta. I used to walk to the 22 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: Boys and Girls Club, and what I can remember, man, 23 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: is like, uh, just the first time I ever really 24 00:00:58,960 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: had that structure. 25 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 4: You feel me. 26 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: I was part of a team, you know, have my 27 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: little fellas with me, you know, my boxing team. He 28 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: had various numbers of ages, and we all came from 29 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: various communities, and we all kind of you know, migrated 30 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: right there to the South West Boys and Girls Club man, 31 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: And I'll never forget, just to look them back, how 32 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: talented those guys were that I learned from, you know 33 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: what I mean. He was blessed to have a great trainer, 34 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: Jimmy Williams. He was an older gentleman but really came 35 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: from New York, from Leedsburg, you know, and just had 36 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: a vast experience, bro and just really taught us that 37 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: old school game. 38 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 4: And we learned that at a young age. 39 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, when I look back at it, 40 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: a lot of those guys could have been world champions 41 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: man from a talent standpoint. But you know, in life, bubble, 42 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: you know, man, sometimes you got to you gotta win 43 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: that life in order to. 44 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 4: Get that shot. 45 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: Man. And a lot of guys didn't get that opportunity 46 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: because you know, for whatever reason, one bad choice or 47 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: another led to you know, either you know, being. 48 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 4: You know exed out or imprisonment for a long time. 49 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: You know, they either took the role of prime or 50 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: either you know, incarceration. Some guys got it together, you 51 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Some guys didn't. But you know, 52 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: I was one of those guys you know you're talking about, 53 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: you know, flower raising up through the concrete, bro you 54 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I'm one of those guys, man, 55 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 1: and that you know, and you know, no excuses, you 56 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And I say that with all 57 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: sincerity because I've never let her allow anything to be 58 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: an excuse for me to fail or not reach my goal. 59 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: And I think, man, when it's inside you, you know, 60 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: don't let none stand in your weight, man, and uh, 61 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: you know, go for it. 62 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 4: You know. 63 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: That's that's what I would say to any of those guys. 64 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: But that's where it all started from. Man Orlando, Florida. 65 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: Ivy Lane had a great uh director in Lester Sears, who. 66 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 4: Really took it uh being a mentor. 67 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: He really took that serious, man, you know, because he 68 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: saw the impact, you know. And the first guy I 69 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: ever remember walking through that gym with a belt, his 70 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: name was Tommy Dixon from Carver Shores, Man. 71 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 4: He was one of the champion on the Navy team. 72 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: And just you know, knowing that a guy that I knew, uh, 73 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: you know, could carry that belt, so proud, man, I 74 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: think that it lit a fire. 75 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 4: In me as a youngster, you know. 76 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: And and and once I stepped in that ring, you know, 77 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: it was kind of you know, it was kind of, uh, 78 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: it was an afterthought of what I was going to do. 79 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: I knew that I found my home in that ring. 80 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 4: Man. 81 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: So boxing kind of choose me from circumstances in life, 82 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And if it were for boxing, man, 83 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: I can I can truly say, I don't know where 84 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: I would be. But it was everything and I gave 85 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: it my all. And uh, looking back now, I don't 86 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: have any you know what I'm saying. So you know, 87 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: I just got a lot with experience. I feel right 88 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: now it's the time that I really want to give 89 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: that back. 90 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 4: Yea. 91 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 2: That's what I wanted to talk to you about right now. 92 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 2: Far as these boxes, who do you see right now 93 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 2: that that could that you could help or that could 94 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 2: better fit from you right now? Talk or like you know, 95 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 2: it could be anybody. But who do you think right 96 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 2: now that you see that that could really could benefit 97 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 2: from you? 98 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 4: You know? 99 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: And when I look at it from a spect man's life, 100 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,679 Speaker 1: I don't want to say a lot of fighters. 101 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 4: But it's like you got to be able to see it. 102 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: You feel me, you know, and when you when things 103 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: happen like that organically, you know, I gotta be the 104 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: fit for the right type of fighter, you know what 105 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I don't think I'm the type of trainer 106 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: for everyone, but I think I'm that trainer. But a 107 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: select few that truly you know, want to get you know, 108 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: or want to learn that shot. 109 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 4: You feel me. It's just it's different. You know. I'm 110 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 4: not saying better than anybody, but it is different. 111 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 2: I I get it, and I know you gonna say it, 112 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 2: but God said, and you know we ain't gonna say 113 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 2: no name. But I know, deep down in your heart 114 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 2: you look at some boxers you like, man, I can 115 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 2: help that motherfucker. I know if I had him over, 116 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 2: he up under me, that bullshy, sloppy foot movement, head 117 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:23,679 Speaker 2: movement he't doing. 118 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 3: I can change all that. 119 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: I can see it in you when you talk, and 120 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 2: I can see it when you at the maxis like 121 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 2: you won't say it, but you want to be respectful 122 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 2: because you was a boxer yourself. I understand, I get it. 123 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 2: But for somebody like me who ain't never box. They 124 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 2: can't box. 125 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 3: And I can see some ship. 126 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 2: Like, man, I look at it like this tall, like 127 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 2: you want hell of a boxer man, hall of Famer career, 128 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: And I look at it like some boxers who got 129 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 2: the money now, like. 130 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 3: It's okay to reach out to. 131 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 2: A bad motherfucker like you was, you know, reach out 132 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: to them. 133 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 3: I know you watched me get my ass toward up. 134 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 3: Help me, help me. 135 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 2: You know, were you gonna win something, You're gonna lose 136 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 2: on We know it's all about how you come back. 137 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 2: How did how was you able to come back from losses? 138 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 2: Like who did you have around you? What was your 139 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 2: what was your support team? 140 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 4: Like I always had a good support team. 141 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: Man. I was blessed with some great trainers, like I 142 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: was mentioning Jimmy Williams, Buddy McGirt, Orlando Quail. 143 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 4: Those are my three trainers. Man. 144 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: When you look back at how they really helped develop 145 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 1: a lot of Hall of Fame career fighters, you know, 146 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: I was blessed. But it was just the resilience, man. 147 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: I just was always a champion at heart. Man. When 148 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: you had the amateur background I had, and then you 149 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: had to move through the ranks like I had to 150 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: move to through the ranks. You know, you kind of 151 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: feel like if you can, if you can train and prepare, 152 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: you think you can beat anybody. 153 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 4: Man, you know what I mean. 154 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: And when I look back on my career, I think, 155 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: you know, my experience says man. If I give it 156 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: one hundred percent, I don't cheat myself. I really get 157 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: on that. You know, in that training camp and work man, 158 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: I mean, nine time out of ten, I came out 159 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: on top. 160 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 4: Man. 161 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: So you know it says a lot about work ethic, 162 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: commitment and dedication, you know what I mean. 163 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 4: And it's okay for this error. 164 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: Man to really look back, you know what I mean, 165 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: and see what you know, guys before them had to 166 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: go through to get to where they were at. 167 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 3: Man. 168 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: And I can truly say I don't ever recall where 169 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: I had the you know what you would call the 170 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: powers to be you know, really behind me. So when 171 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: I look back at my career, man, I truly believe, Man, 172 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: I got it done with my left hand, on my 173 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,559 Speaker 1: right hand, my will to win, with my skill set. 174 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: And so when you know that that you if you 175 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: put your best before, you can give yourself a chance 176 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: to win you know, why not go for the stars 177 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: or reach for the clouds? Man, I mean because my 178 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: history says that, you know, I'm a champion within, but 179 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: I won on every level that I proved it was 180 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: my turn. 181 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 4: Bro. You know I want so you know I don't 182 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 4: have no regrets. 183 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: Man, I just want to plant that in these guidance 184 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: that you know what I mean, you're training to have 185 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: to be able to motivate you and inspire you. Bro, 186 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: all my trainers, I was a student of the game, 187 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: and I didn't mind construct the criticism. Bro, I never 188 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: took it personal. I went and got better, you know 189 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I think a lot of times 190 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: we got to be culchable, you know what I mean. 191 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: I'm not saying I know it all, but I'm thinking 192 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: through my experience, Bro, I can truly tell you that, 193 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: you know, through Hall, I can show you some things. 194 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 4: Maybe you know what I mean, you don't know about them. 195 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 4: That's it. 196 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: You feel me in and I think my team, Man, 197 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: got to have a good soiled team. Somebody that kind 198 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: of have been through that before that can lend you 199 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: know some experience. 200 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 4: Man, you feel me. 201 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: But I believe I'm a hell of a trainer just 202 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: by you know, knowing the game, being in the game 203 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: so long, man, and you know it's only gonna take one, 204 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: you feel me, one guy that truly can see it. 205 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 4: You know. Now, my son is a hell of a fighter, bro, 206 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 4: My son is a hell of a fighter. 207 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna take nothing away from Junior, but you know, 208 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: you know, if it ain't, you know, family business is 209 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: the best business, if. 210 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 4: You see what I'm saying. 211 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: And so you know, but I got a nephew, Bulah 212 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: Man in two years, she's coming out, man, and so 213 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave that alone. I'm gonna just leave that 214 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: under rats. But he in the army right now, in 215 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: the army right now. He's from Houston, and uh, you know, 216 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: Jameson Man, Jameson Cole gonna be a baton boy. 217 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 4: He South Paul. 218 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: You know, he lean a real slender, got powered, you know, 219 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: good feet. So I'm looking for him to really make 220 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: an impact on the game. 221 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 4: Man. 222 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: That's my my nephew, my youngest sister's son. So you know, 223 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: I just want to put that. 224 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 4: Out there for sure. 225 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 2: From from a champion like yourself to another champion like I' 226 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 2: sat for another champion it was a champion, then he lose. 227 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 2: Is it hard for some boxers to take advice from 228 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 2: other boxers? Like when I'm hitting that and I'm saying, 229 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 2: like the motherfucker, like why, I think why being a 230 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 2: fit from someone like you, I'm just throwing it locked. 231 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 2: I know he's like over the age whatever, woo the wood, 232 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 2: But I'm talking about five years. If you would take 233 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 2: five years ago, if he could really gout with somebody 234 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 2: that could really teach him some things instead of get 235 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 2: relying on your power, I think we'll be looking at 236 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 2: a different Dante Wilder right now. That's not taking them 237 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 2: nothing away from his hallow fank career, but he's able. 238 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 3: What he's done done. 239 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 2: But it's starting to show now that he really had 240 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 2: no skills. It would just all knockout power, look ahead 241 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 2: movement and he was just trying to catch you. I'm saying, 242 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 2: is it hard for someone like him to reach out 243 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 2: to someone like you and other high caliber boxes in 244 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 2: the past for help or advice or have he even asked? 245 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 3: No, I don't want to say that he hasn't. 246 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 4: No. 247 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: No, I mean I think I've bottle record, I've really 248 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: put my name out there, man, I really, you know. 249 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: But like I said, you know, I think they have 250 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: to see it bro in order for them to really 251 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: take advantage of it. But I think it might be 252 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: the people that they respect, the people that they're loyal to, 253 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, that might be swaying in 254 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: one way or another. I don't think it's really to 255 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: fight it. I think the fighters sometimes you know, uh, 256 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: they're loyal to a fault. Sometimes you know what I'm saying, 257 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 1: and sometimes it's not into act the words. They can 258 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,599 Speaker 1: look back and say, damn, maybe what it you know 259 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 1: what I mean? But you know, I put it out there. 260 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 4: Man. I saw some things that I helped. 261 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: I could have helped with Wilder and it was willing 262 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: to do it, but never got the call. Man, And uh, 263 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: you know unfortunately. But you know, I'm not going to 264 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: say anything about nobody can, man, because you know, in 265 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: this era of the day, you know, it's everyone's sensitive. 266 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 4: It's not you know, so you gotta tread lightly. 267 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: But man, I just want gonna say I never thought 268 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: that anybody had to fire anyone, but just bring somebody 269 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: in that can just you know, maybe team up with 270 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: your training. Maybe work in sequence are important with your training, 271 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: but just have somebody over there, men that can really 272 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: have a clean eye, that can be critical and be 273 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: really constructive and be you know, willing to show you 274 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: how it goes bro And I think once they get 275 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 1: a feel of it, they're gonna catch on because they 276 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 1: know the game a little bit. They just I don't 277 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: think they've gotten a lesson. And you know, I've been 278 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: hearing that these guys, and no knocker, I hear and 279 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: they're just not training harder like they used to back 280 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: in the day. And I don't know if they're going 281 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: to training camp from home or they really going to 282 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: training camp. 283 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 4: You know a lot of time back in the old. 284 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: Days, you have to leave for eight weeks you feel 285 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: me and go in hibernation sort of speak. Nowadays, I 286 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: think these got most of these guys are training from 287 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: the company, their home, you feel me. And so I 288 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: don't know how diligent these guys are really putting me 289 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: in a training campaign. You know, I don't know what 290 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: they're doing. I would love to be a fly on 291 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: the wall to see how they're approaching it, because it's 292 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: all preparation. It's that eight weeks before the fight. It's 293 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: gonna determine what happens on fight night. You feel me, 294 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: And if those sacrifices aren't being made, Bro, it ain't gonna. 295 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 4: Happen on fight night. You gotta put yourself through it. 296 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 3: They say, be bossed. They're having six during trying to camp. 297 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 4: Man. Oh no, See, that's what I mean. 298 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: All the old traditions are thrown out the window. And 299 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: I think the further they get away from that, I 300 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: think that I think we're gonna continue to see these 301 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: guys fail at the highest those levels. 302 00:13:58,640 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 3: Man, they say, that's what. 303 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 4: Really, he'd been hurt, really been hurting me. 304 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 2: Change guys, they say, David Handy, Bill Hangy with about 305 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 2: a hundred packs before that, Ryan, go see a fight. 306 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 3: Hey talk just being stuff like, what what do you. 307 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 2: Think about the whole situation with Garcia and Handy? 308 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 4: Man? What do you think about this man? Man? 309 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: You know what I wish you'll see it would have 310 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: made weight, he would have been world champion. I wish that, 311 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Handy would have fought his 312 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: fight rather than fight the wrong style fight for to 313 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: get to win. He should have did what he normally 314 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: is accustomed to doing. 315 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 4: Boxing. 316 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: This guy moving around using your footwork, so he fought 317 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: the wrong style. Now they have the peds involved. 318 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 4: You know what I mean? 319 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: Myself, I don't I just stay away from that, brother, 320 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: because my experience just with it, you know what I mean, 321 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: I don't think the world's ready for that, So I'm 322 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: just stay away from that. But if he's a young man, 323 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: and if he made a mistake, man, let's not cruce 324 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: the final guy. You feel me at this time, you 325 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Now, we make mistakes, but we 326 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: don't never make two mistakes in a row. Like you know, 327 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: I've been accused of it. We gonna leave that alone. 328 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: But at the same time, man, I want to see 329 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: Ryan Man really put his best foot for it, because 330 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: I see a guy in a lot of talent, a 331 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: lot of talent. 332 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 4: Man his gifts. 333 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: You know, you cannot then not He has some of 334 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: the freakiest power in that left hand. 335 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 4: You feel me. Now, let's just do it the right way. 336 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: Now, motivate yourself to show them that you don't need 337 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: nothing to be successful. And I think when I look 338 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: at that fight, I don't think he did anything extraordinary 339 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: in that fight. I think Hayes just didn't fight this 340 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: fight you know what I mean, And I think that 341 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: gave him the edge. Now if they did it again, 342 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: because we don't have to run it back the right way. 343 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: Make sure everybody on either playing field and seeing the 344 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: results of the fight, you know what I mean. That's 345 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: what I'm looking forward to, man, to rematch a clean slate. 346 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: Let's get it right, Let's do it again now. 347 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 2: I had a recent conversation with Champ Floyd about this, 348 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 2: and my god, we was talking about Stevenson and Tank. 349 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 3: Tank got power, Floyd, I mean, supres feels. 350 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 2: How do you see that fight playing out or do 351 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 2: you think it would be a rehydration clause in the fight? 352 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I think Secure don't have a 353 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: problem making that weight. 354 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 4: They don't. 355 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: Only two out there, you know what I'm saying. It'll 356 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: be an interesting fight. It's now all make fights. And 357 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: I can see Stevenson winning a decision just with his 358 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: knowledge of the game, distance, his mastery of distance. But 359 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: I can see Javonte Davis also closing the show shedding 360 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: out the lights. So that's that's why we tune in 361 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: to see the fights. 362 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 4: You feel me? 363 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 1: These are two contrasting styles and some one style gotta 364 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: give you know now, Javonte Davis can put that pressure 365 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: on you too. Now, So don't think just because uh 366 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 1: Shapira happens getting you know, fat and can really he 367 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: has a good controller distance that Javonte couldn't cut in 368 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 1: the ring off. My boy is just going to be 369 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: hell hitting Shapiro one punch with two punches, especially with 370 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: a combination. You know, you can hardly get him with 371 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: a handful of rotts. This is how you feel me. 372 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: This is how dowd in he is on his defense. 373 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: You know, this man fight twelve rounds, come out unstayed. 374 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: There's only a few fighters. 375 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 4: Have done that. 376 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: You feel me pretty good, Floyd, you know what I mean. 377 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: I can brag you a little bit. You feel me 378 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: twenty three years in the game looking like this and 379 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: guys like Shairpira Stevenson masters of defense, bro. 380 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 4: So anytime you fight a guy like Shapiro, it's a nightmare. 381 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: It's a nightmare, bro, because that's most of the most 382 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: frustrating thing, it's not being able to touch. 383 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 4: That guy like you want to. 384 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 3: I'm gonna pick your brain for a second. 385 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 2: When you're talking about putting pressure on a fight, do 386 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 2: you boxer throw certain punches where you make a cane 387 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 2: close and he's like, you know, I'm gonna save this 388 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 2: when I'm gonna you know what I'm say, I'm gonna 389 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 2: save that for Lego because I'm gonna set him up. 390 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 2: How do you It's like chess, how do you set 391 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 2: somebody up? Like I really want gonna know because I 392 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:22,719 Speaker 2: can see I watch your match with you. 393 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 3: I taught to describe it. 394 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 2: You hit them with the left hoook, but it was 395 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 2: you threw a punt right hand, and you made they paying, 396 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 2: you know, come certain way, try to cover up where 397 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 2: they left this exposed it. 398 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: Right right, do y'all? So we call that touching. We 399 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: call that just touching and to see where they at 400 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 1: open them up. And I've always been a deceptive type 401 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: of fighter. That's that's my game. 402 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 4: You feel me. 403 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: I'm always trying to you know, if they want to fight, 404 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: I'm a box If they want to bomp, I'm gonna 405 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: you feel me. If they want to be aggressive, I'm 406 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: gonna use that aggressive against I'm a step to the side. 407 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give them angils. So you gotta always be 408 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: willing by knowing how to set that trap. The most 409 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: effective too, I had in boxingation. A guy's over company. 410 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 1: When a guy think he got you, or a guy 411 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: really think he's having a good round and he get 412 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: overcome it, that's the best time to really laying something 413 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: big that they're not expecting. And I've already had a 414 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 1: knack of getting that shot off when they at least expected. 415 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 2: How do you really know, Talmo, when you hit somebody 416 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 2: that you know it really done what it's supposed to do. 417 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 2: Like you might not knock them my yet, but you 418 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 2: know you're gonna took a lot out of the focky ass, 419 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 2: and you like, you know what about another two more 420 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 2: round your ass or body him like do you know, yeah? 421 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yelling when they gonna shake it a little bit 422 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: when you hit him. You know what I'm saying. They 423 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 1: don't react right on wading and you know that you 424 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: can feel it, man, when you touch it, right when 425 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: you turn that knuckle over on them. And you know, 426 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 1: even when you're not hunting, you know, even when you're 427 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 1: not loading up, when you're. 428 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 4: Putting that motion behind that shot. 429 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: It could look very like from the outside, but it's 430 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: a thump on the inside that only probably you and 431 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 1: that guy can here and you know where you land 432 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: on that shot, silent man. A lot of time to 433 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 1: the body too, man, that body shot. I advise those 434 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 1: young guys and best to the body. Bro, that's the 435 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: best thing you can do for yourself as a professional. 436 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 2: Fighter, because the body where it opens up the head 437 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 2: later or it just makes you vulnerable. 438 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 4: Man, It makes you vulnerable. 439 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: It makes you vulnerable, and it really weakens your legs. 440 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:34,479 Speaker 1: If you can consistently go down there after around five six, bro, 441 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: that fighter is going to be a little weakened. 442 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 4: He ain't gonna be moving as swift as. 443 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: He was early on, and believe it or not, then 444 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: he's more ready for the knockout. You feel me. But 445 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: a lot of times these fighters don't let the fight 446 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 1: come to him. Well, but do they get an ancients? 447 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: They get over excited. They don't let the fight come 448 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: to him. Bro, if you let the fight come to 449 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: you by doing your your game plan, you'll you'll realize 450 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: that the fighter happened just like we expected it to. 451 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: You just gotta let all the chips fall into place 452 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: and start reacting a lot more instead of trying to 453 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: force the issue, just reacting on what your guy's doing 454 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: will make him put thoughts inside of. 455 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 4: His head as well. 456 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: So all of those things a little you know, little 457 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,959 Speaker 1: gems that you would get, you know, when you working 458 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 1: with a fighter with so much experience like myself, Brus, 459 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: it's so many other ways when in preparation, preparation, I 460 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: can help you get ready to upset the world because 461 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: a lot of times, Bru, you know, if you don't 462 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: do something that they're not expecting you to do, then 463 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 1: you're really. 464 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 4: Not You're really not putting a dinner. 465 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: The thing You're going to have to upset somebody that 466 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: they don't think you can win in order to really 467 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: you know, put a mark on the game, you know 468 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So if you favor do win all 469 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: the time, there's no messy in it. But it's that underdog, 470 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:06,719 Speaker 1: that underdog that they're not planning for that really you know, 471 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: that keeps them I think keeps the game a lot, 472 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 1: you know. 473 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 4: What I'm saying. 474 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 3: Did you think Frank Martin had a chance with Tank? 475 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 1: He would have had to fight the perfect fight, you know, 476 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: he would have had to fight the perfect fight. I 477 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: think if he would have been addressing round three and 478 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: just really started you know, seeing could he back Javonte 479 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: up instead of just allowing Javonte to come to him. 480 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: He could have probably challenged Javonte a little bit more. 481 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: But eventually I think his talent was gonna Javonte's talent 482 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 1: was going to show up. Here's a guy that's you know, 483 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: it's been a child pronogy in boxing, you feel me, 484 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: been in the game since he was a kid. He 485 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: got that main Weather two which early in his career. 486 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: He's been on that level for so long he's used 487 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: to it. And a lot of times these guys get 488 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: there for the first time, like Martin. You know, those 489 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: lights can be intimidating, bro, you know. And Martin fought well. 490 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: He fought well, and he's going to become a better 491 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: fighter from this. So don't sleep on Martin, man, because 492 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: if you go back and look at all these fighters, 493 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: Javonte fuck has fought Ryan Garcia, pit Bull Cruise, you 494 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: feel me, and and now uh, the guy that you're 495 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 1: just speaking of. These guys are going to get better, 496 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So you know, when you 497 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: get in there with Javonte, you get better. Look at Roly, 498 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 1: you know, really even really won a title after he fought, 499 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 1: got knocked that by Javonte, So I think he'll come 500 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:39,719 Speaker 1: back better and struggling. 501 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 4: So don't don't don't sleep on Martin. He'll be back. 502 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the great things you did. You fought 503 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 2: in different weight classes, moving up. How how was you 504 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 2: able to train like that? 505 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 4: Bro? 506 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 2: Like that, like people understand how hard that is moving 507 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 2: up and moving up? 508 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 3: Like, how was you able to do that? 509 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 4: They trained like? How was that? 510 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: I was a big, light handyweight, but I always felt that, 511 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: you know, I just stay. I stayed at light hendyweight 512 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: because I felt I was the best, like heavyweight. But 513 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 1: when you look at me, I was a natural two 514 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty pounds, You feel me and you know 515 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: so you know, yeah, man, that weight killed me for 516 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: a long time, bro, But cruising weight, I won a title. 517 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: I beat Danny Green and heavyweight. I was undefeated. I 518 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: ever lost as a heavyweight, you know what I'm saying. 519 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: So I really wish I could have had a shot, 520 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: you know, the fight for the title. Man who knows. 521 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: Back then, you know prin Scow was on his way out. 522 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: A j was not the skillful guy here the. 523 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 4: Day then Wilder. 524 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 1: We know Wilder had some flaws in his game, so 525 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: you know, who knows what would have happened if I 526 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: would have got a shot, you know what I mean. 527 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: But you know what I mean. I think I was 528 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: a little too small for the big guys. But I 529 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: still I think the magic would have showed up regardless. 530 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 4: You feel me. 531 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 2: I wish he was around with my baby, my boyfriend 532 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 2: beating my ass. Somebody in your your mind corner to 533 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 2: go and talk to. Because I didn't have nobody, I 534 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 2: just have to go. Put the police on this nigga. 535 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 3: You don't know what. No, I don't want to hurt nobody, 536 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 3: shoot nobody. 537 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: I'd rather put the line. 538 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 3: Got dead on my head talk. The dude hit me 539 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 3: so hard in my jaw, I lost vision. 540 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 4: I ain't know you, but but. 541 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 2: You know I was picking you know, you know, you 542 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 2: know I would pull up stunning you know. 543 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm playing. Got caught. You know I 544 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 3: got caught. Let's talk about you know. 545 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 2: You know you talked about your upbringing and getting in 546 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 2: the box and how was it when you when you 547 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 2: start making a little money, Like I want what I'm 548 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 2: saying that when I'm I'm hitt nigger did you have 549 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 2: a little bit more friends when you start getting money, 550 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 2: different people coming in, when you start being successful, your 551 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 2: uncle ride starting to get a little bigger than what 552 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 2: it was. 553 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 3: Let's talk about that. 554 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 2: What is something that you could say to a young 555 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 2: athlete right now today when they start coming in kind 556 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 2: of money, what to. 557 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 4: Watch out for and stuff like that. Well, again, man, 558 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 4: you know O G's Bro. 559 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: You know O G's that really out here trying to 560 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: show these guys a different way. Honestly, you feel me, 561 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: you know, they never there's no school you can go 562 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: to to prepare for the success, for success when you 563 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: come from where we come from, you feel me, so, 564 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: you know. Uh, but it was a good feeling, man, 565 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: just being able to provide, you know, for the people 566 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: that I love, you know, doing things you know, for mom, 567 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: you know, buying houses and making sure my sisters were 568 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: good and giving my kids and like that I only 569 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: dreamed about. You know what I'm saying that that's really 570 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 1: what it's all about, Bro, you feel me, and hoping 571 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 1: that you know, we plant the. 572 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 4: Seeds that can continue continue to grow, you know what 573 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 4: I mean. 574 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 1: I'm very proud of my son, you know, I think 575 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,479 Speaker 1: that you know, once he set his mind to anything, 576 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: he can achieve anything he wants. And my daughter she's proven, 577 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: you know, graduate from Florida that she can do anything 578 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: she wants. So I'm very proud of my kids. Man, 579 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, and for any spiring champion, bro, like, 580 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: just listen to the people that are really you know, 581 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 1: there for you. 582 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 4: Man. You know, And I was cool, Man. 583 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: I think I don't think none of my friends took 584 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 1: advantage of me. I just think maybe I just had 585 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 1: a little bit too much fun sometimes, you know, made 586 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: some bad decisions along the way in life. 587 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 588 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: We all have all you know, we all have, but 589 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: you know, overall, man, I I wouldn't change the thing. 590 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: But like you know what I mean, I'm still here, bro, dibrant, 591 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: you feel me, and you know God got me. 592 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 4: You feel me in it. 593 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: Like I think when you look at the energy, bru, 594 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: it's like that's what you know life is all about. 595 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 4: Man, that's how you feel. But I think you know, 596 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 4: I'm glad I don't look like what I've been through. 597 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 1: You feel me, so you know for that, man, I'm like, 598 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: I just like I said, Man, right now, I enjoy retirement. Bro. 599 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 1: But like I say, my job ain't done yet, brother, 600 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: Because if I don't even give this knowledge and experience 601 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 1: that I got. 602 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 4: Away, Bro, what good is you feel me? 603 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: What really with the sacrifighter that I made if I'm 604 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: not able to give that back? So I think I 605 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: know where my future lies. I'm gonna help a lot 606 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 1: of kids. Bro. We're gonna develop a lot of champions, man, 607 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna make it and try to develop a 608 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 1: lot of these fighters in my image. 609 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 4: You feel me? So you know what I mean? 610 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 1: And that's what I think you know? And once I 611 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: do that, man, we're gonna see the difference. It is 612 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: long as gonna take one one talent to come and 613 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 1: really get these lessons, Bro, of what I can really 614 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: show them? And I call it sprinkling the magic on them. Bro, 615 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 1: I think everybody gotta get in touch with it. 616 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 4: You feel me? Because I think it's truly something in 617 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 4: the water over here in Florida. 618 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 3: Got I mean, you know you here's the magic. 619 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 4: Man. 620 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 2: Like I said earlier, I say the same thing. If 621 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 2: I'm a boxer, man, I want to be great. I 622 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,959 Speaker 2: want to take something from each and every one of y'all. Man, 623 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 2: I want love to come in and sit down and 624 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 2: pick y'all brain. If I'm boxing and learning different moods, 625 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 2: that way, I could be ahead of everybody. You want 626 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 2: to be the best. You know what I'm saying, you 627 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 2: have to beat the best. Well, let's go out and 628 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 2: train the best. Let's get the best training I can get. 629 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 2: That get the best footwork coach. 630 00:28:59,280 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 3: I can get. 631 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 2: If I need the motive, vagor, then let me get 632 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 2: the best motive. 633 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 3: I want to have all these things. 634 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 2: I want to be great, tall, like I'm a comedian, 635 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 2: like I want to be great. So I studied Richard Pride, 636 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 2: the Burnie Max Red sound you know Red. 637 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 3: I study these. 638 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 4: Guys shoot the other game, shoot another game. 639 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 3: I don't want to skip no steps. 640 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 4: I don't want to see I mean, I think it's 641 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 4: a culture thing, man. 642 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: I think these guys gotta start getting back to the 643 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: to the root of it. Bro, you feel me, and uh, 644 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: it's really yourself against you, man, you know what I mean. 645 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 4: I looked in that mirror a lot of nights. 646 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: Man, you feel me when I you know, I didn't 647 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: want to get up that fire, but I was driven, bro, 648 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: because I just knew that if I didn't. My opponent 649 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: was out there doing it anyway, you feel me? So 650 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: I just did everything. I felt like I had some 651 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: gifts to man, I had some gifts. I think God 652 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: bless me with a nice stinking cap to be able 653 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: to put that in that, you know in my fight game. 654 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 4: See, they could never put this on the tail of 655 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 4: the tape. You know. 656 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: They can say, long in your arms, are you feel me? 657 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: How much power you got? But they can't measure your 658 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: thinking power? 659 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 4: You feel me? 660 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: So I think when you you know, when you look 661 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: at my career, I'm always be underestimated because what made 662 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: me a solid great, a great fighter, what it didn't 663 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: show up on the tail of the tape. 664 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 2: M Okay, when we pick your brain right quick, man, 665 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 2: how truly great was Manu Pak? 666 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 4: Yeah? Truly great, truly great. 667 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: You know, uh, we wish that fight with him and 668 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: Floyd would have happened in their prime. 669 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 4: You know. You know when I look at that fight when. 670 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: They did fight, you can see, you know, Floyd was 671 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: always seemed like. 672 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 4: He was one or two steps ahead of man. You 673 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 4: feel me? 674 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: And and that's that thinking power what I was mentioning 675 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: talking about today. Even though man, they had good feet, 676 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: Many had the power, and he just never could get 677 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: a step or two ahead of floor, you feel me, 678 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: even though you know he probably got a couple of 679 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: shots and he never was able to turn the time 680 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: floor just out boxing masterfly. So I think that probably 681 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: would have happened even if they were in that produm. 682 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 4: You feel me. So, you know, uh, Many was a 683 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 4: great fighter. 684 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: You don't win as many titles and beat as many 685 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: legends as he has h not being a great fighter, 686 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: you know. So yeah, many all times great? 687 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 2: Uh You ever suffering any injuries during training to camp? 688 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 2: And what was that like? Like the mental part of it? 689 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 2: Like park another setback? Like how you deal with those sitbacks? 690 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 4: Man? 691 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: You know sometimes you know, in the latter part of 692 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: my career, it was injuries all the time, you know, 693 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,239 Speaker 1: ankle injury, you know, k mee and uh but somehow, bro, 694 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: you just made it through, you feel me. 695 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 4: It was times when my trainer he can tell you this. 696 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: Too, he didn't know how it was going to perform 697 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: because I didn't have a not a good day in 698 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: training camp, but it. 699 00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 4: Was all mental, you feel me. 700 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: So when I got in there, I take my ankle 701 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: up and it was against Jonathan Banks. It was one 702 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: of my heavyweight one of my last heavyweight fights, and 703 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: I knocked Jonathan Banks out. It was a good performance. 704 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: But leading up to that fight, Bro, I cut my hand. 705 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: I had bad ankles the whole time. I couldn't really 706 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: get my my sprint saying like I wanted to running. 707 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 4: It was hard, but we just never stopped, you know 708 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 4: what I mean? 709 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,959 Speaker 1: Every morning we got up, even if we had to 710 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: walk and limp and make it. You know, we it 711 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: itate us a mile of getting warmed up to get 712 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: my threshold up. We just did it. You know what 713 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying. It was a struggle, Bro, it was. We 714 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: went through the pain. But then again, when I got 715 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: in that ring, everything came together, you feel me. So 716 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: I didn't put on myself and I didn't really know 717 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: how I was going to perform. But I did the 718 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: work and I didn't quit on myself. So when I 719 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: got in there, everything came together. We knocked it down 720 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: in the nine round. 721 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 4: Yes, you did. 722 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 2: You ever are self of a hand injury during the fight, 723 00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 2: right like, even though you know you probably even on 724 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 2: the fight, but you you knew that, you know, you 725 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 2: didn't have certain power in a certain hand or not 726 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 2: that you hurt. Got to say something boxer the other 727 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 2: day he broke his toy shoulder or something. 728 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he thinks. 729 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: Till till female. Little Pez just hurt his hand in 730 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: his last fight. And I spoke to him after the fight. 731 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: And see, this is the thing in training camp is 732 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: when we mostly hurt our hands because we're not rapping 733 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: our hands as tight as we would if we. 734 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 4: Was in a fight. 735 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: But it's at practice where you gotta protect your and 736 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: the most because if you hurt your hands, you out 737 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: of business. So it takes veterans like myself and other 738 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: guys that know this that you gotta get that athletic 739 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: sticky tape two inch tape and you got to put 740 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 1: that on your skin, bro to kick those small particle 741 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: bombs in tact because if you punching like most of 742 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: these guys should be punching like a pro, you gonna 743 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: do some damage. If all you have is that rat 744 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: doing practice, now you need to protect their hand much better. 745 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: Put that two inch tape on and use that as 746 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: the like a little cast. 747 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 4: Then rap and then. 748 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 1: Take some more. So you gotta detect your hands. And 749 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: I think that's where these guys are hurting their hands. 750 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: We're not really protecting their hands. And that two inch 751 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 1: tape is expensive. If you order it off eBay and 752 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: all that, it can get expensive. But you got to 753 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 1: make that investment in your career that that definitely makes 754 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: sense on that part. Give me your Mount Rushmore Boxer's 755 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 1: your top five rushing yours. 756 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 4: You don't have to be no particular person. Sugar. 757 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: Ray Leonard is definitely on there for me. Muhammad, Ali, 758 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: Roy Jones Jr. Is on there, Mayweather and Uh one 759 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: of my all power of pound grapes man Rovert during 760 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: Oh you feel me? Oh, Robert of Duran on there. 761 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 1: Duran made the cut, Bro, But you know those are 762 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 1: my favorite. You know I come from that generation. 763 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 4: Bro. You know Ali, You know I can go back 764 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 4: to Jack Johnson. 765 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: You feel me that I have a you know, real 766 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 1: you know uh connection with Jack Johnson. You feel me 767 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: was one of my favorites historically. But you know Ali, 768 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: it all started with Ali. For me, you feel me 769 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,879 Speaker 1: because I was that young when it was nothing else 770 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 1: but Ani, you feel me. And one of my greatest 771 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 1: moments man, when I saw him like the torch. You 772 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,879 Speaker 1: feel me nineteen ninety six in the Olympics. I'll never 773 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: forget that, you know what I mean, we didn't even 774 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 1: know who's going to like the torch and going behore. 775 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 4: Is Muhammed Ali. 776 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,919 Speaker 1: Man, that was one of the one of the most 777 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 1: teary eyed moments I ever had, Man, representing the country. 778 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 1: You did that track with all the greats. You feel 779 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: me in ninety six. That was for me because like 780 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 1: three times that you're didn't oh yeah ninety five, I 781 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: want I want every championship in ninety five going into 782 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 1: the Olympics, you know, yeah, Man, that was you know 783 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: I wanted. I wanted to get that goal for me 784 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: and Ruin Man for Florida. You feel me because you 785 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,399 Speaker 1: know it was at a time in nineteen eighty eight 786 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: I saw the great, the great Roy Jones junior in 787 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: soul career get robbed of that gold and that moment 788 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 1: in time was instrumental for me. 789 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 4: Man. 790 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: I got off the couch right then and ran three miles, 791 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: but I could plumb. She ain't looked back since, you 792 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: feel me, I've been running there since I got. 793 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,240 Speaker 2: The Roy Jones were praying for you too, family, praying 794 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 2: for you, Man, You and your family. 795 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:42,720 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah for sure, man, Yeah, yeah, yeah. 796 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,879 Speaker 2: Have any stories like did you ever get to meet 797 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,800 Speaker 2: Muhammad got Lego, Like what was this aura? 798 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 3: Like if you ever got the meeting like this? 799 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 4: I was blessed. I was blessed to meet him. Man. 800 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 4: He was a little older. 801 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: But I commentated on one of the Laila Leaf fights 802 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: she had early on in Washington, DC, and he was 803 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 1: there and we the only dressing room, you know, we 804 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 1: were with the family. I had a chance to meet him, 805 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: sit down with him and everything like that. Just a 806 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:08,479 Speaker 1: beautiful guy. 807 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 4: Man. 808 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: Everyone loved on them. I mean, that's that's all I 809 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: can say, is it's all love. When he was around 810 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 1: and whenever his name was mentioned, and uh yeah, and 811 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 1: Leale and I, you know, we always had a friendship 812 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,240 Speaker 1: over the years. You know, Buddy McGirt forts her training 813 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 1: as well, so we used to go to training camp 814 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 1: together and all that. But yeah, Layla man, Uh, just 815 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 1: to see her career and how it went and everything 816 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: being there and just being knowing that she came from 817 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 1: that great you know Leonards man, that that's amazing, bro. 818 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 1: You know all Leaves, it's it's anonymous in boxing. Definitely 819 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: a vote you know, what I mean far as open center. 820 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,919 Speaker 4: Oh Man, definitely go you a goat yourself. Man. 821 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,399 Speaker 2: You you did some great things in boxing tabor Man. 822 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 2: You know that's what this show is about. To bring 823 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,400 Speaker 2: light to it for the people out there that don't know. 824 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 2: Antonio Tabo Man was the hell of a boxer. Man, 825 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 2: go and check it my Any aspiring boxers out there, 826 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 2: any boxers out there now that you know you won't help, 827 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 2: but you really don't want to rub your people and 828 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 2: your team the wrong way, fuck them. Reach out to 829 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 2: somebody's like TV. Man, get your ass and help so 830 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:14,919 Speaker 2: you can stop getting your ass beat. 831 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,360 Speaker 3: And you know when you're win, you getting all the money. 832 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 833 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 1: You won't I'm talking about, don't have heavy talking about. 834 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 3: Then come out at Tabora and get right to afle Man. 835 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 2: I just want to thank you personally man for coming 836 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 2: on this show. 837 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:29,359 Speaker 1: Man. 838 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,919 Speaker 2: Person took a bubble dub show Man, like I say 839 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 2: anything you would like to say to the people, anything 840 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 2: thing you want the people to know, you can say 841 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 2: it right now on the show. 842 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 4: Man. Let us know anything you want to say. 843 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: Hey, Man just followed me on ad Antonio Tabo on 844 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 1: all social media platforms. I got a great podcast, Tarba's take. 845 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: It's the most informative taking boxing. Just remember where you 846 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: heard it first. This is my platform where I really 847 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,800 Speaker 1: break down the superstars of boxing and see who they're fighting. 848 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: And we're trying to break down all the major matchups 849 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,760 Speaker 1: and let you know what I think, how the fight's 850 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 1: gonna go, and then I'll give you the recap of 851 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 1: how close I was or if I was all wrong altogether, 852 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 1: but we let you know how it goes and then 853 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,799 Speaker 1: what else to look forward to in the coming in 854 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: the coming months and boxing. 855 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,879 Speaker 4: So we're just trying to stay active. Man. I try 856 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 4: to show up to all the fights. You feel me. 857 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 1: If you want talmas, take that to your fight and 858 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,280 Speaker 1: make sure you tap in. So that's what it's all about. 859 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: Legs giving back to the. 860 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 2: Game right now, all right for sure? Man, Hey, thank 861 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 2: y'all for tuning in the day took the Bubble Dup show. 862 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 2: I told y'all asked us that I had a leg 863 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 2: and stopping by and Tony your. 864 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 3: Talking man, stop by, sit down, you know what I'm saying. 865 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 2: Chapter up gave us a great game, great insight, Oh boxing, man, 866 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,240 Speaker 2: We thank you so much brother man, God blessed. 867 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 4: Can't wait to see you again. I appreciate it, man, 868 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 4: God bless you. Thanks for having me, my guy. Yes sir, 869 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 4: Yes sir. 870 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 1: The volume