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Speaker 1: As a guide and hunter, I've spent thousands of days

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Speaker 1: in the field. This show is about translating my hard

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Speaker 1: won experiences into tips and tactics they'll get you closer

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Speaker 1: to your ultimate goal success in the field. I'm Remy Warren.

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Speaker 1: This is cutting the distance. Welcome back to the podcast everyone.

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Speaker 1: I hope everybody's doing good. I know this some of

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Speaker 1: this quarantine stuff feels like it will never end. I

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Speaker 1: know a few places they're starting to lift to some restrictions,

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Speaker 1: but for most of the country we're still just kind

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Speaker 1: of in the middle of this. So I thought this

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Speaker 1: week maybe I would just touch a little bit on

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Speaker 1: some of the things we can do right now from

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Speaker 1: home in planning for fall season success that when it

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Speaker 1: comes to picking a hunt and picking a spot, and

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Speaker 1: this is something that I've just been doing a lot

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Speaker 1: of lately. So I just want to go over some

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Speaker 1: of the things that I'm doing right now from my house,

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Speaker 1: through map scouting, through tag applications, through hunt research that

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Speaker 1: will help me be successful this fall. But before we

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Speaker 1: get into that, I'd just like to share a story

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Speaker 1: of a meal deer hunt a few years ago in

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Speaker 1: a new area that I kind of stumbled upon by

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Speaker 1: doing a lot of preseason research. By this point, it

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Speaker 1: was day five or six of my general area over

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Speaker 1: the counter meal deer hunt. Now, on this particular hunt,

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Speaker 1: I was looking for what I would consider a good

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Speaker 1: mature buck, at least four by four, good scoring, big

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Speaker 1: mature animal. Except up until this point, i'd hardly see

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Speaker 1: any deer. I had seen a few doughs and some

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Speaker 1: smaller bucks, but very few sightings in between. I was

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Speaker 1: signing a state that I hadn't actually hunted for deer before,

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Speaker 1: but before the season really started, I just kind of

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Speaker 1: got to thinking I was. I was reading through some

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Speaker 1: regulations for different states like I do every year, and

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Speaker 1: I just thought, man, this would be a fun tag

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Speaker 1: to try. I looked at the season dates, and I

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Speaker 1: just so happened to have it open between guiding, So

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Speaker 1: I just thought, Okay, I'm gonna pick up that tag

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Speaker 1: and give it a shot, give it a run for

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Speaker 1: its money. You know, a lot of my hunt planning

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Speaker 1: started out. What I was looking for was an area

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Speaker 1: that really suited the way that I liked to hunt,

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Speaker 1: a good backcountry area. I also looked for an area

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Speaker 1: that had fairly low hunter success, but also fairly low

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Speaker 1: hunter activity. I wanted to be in a spot where

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Speaker 1: I really believed that I could find a mature animal.

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Speaker 1: And to find a mature animal, it needs age. So

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Speaker 1: I thought, if I pick an area that is very

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Speaker 1: hard to hunt for a lot of people, if I

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Speaker 1: do end up finding a deer, it's probably gonna have

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Speaker 1: some age to it. It's probably gonna have a little

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Speaker 1: bit more size, especially being in over the counter tag.

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Speaker 1: You know, if I can cut down on the hunter

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Speaker 1: numbers and and get into areas where I'm not seeing

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Speaker 1: other people, man, I might really have some success at

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Speaker 1: turning up a good buck. Once I narrowed it down

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Speaker 1: to that, I kind of found an area that had

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Speaker 1: fairly low success, and I knew that historically there had

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Speaker 1: been good animals taken around that area there. You know,

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Speaker 1: I could look through Pope and Young and Boone and

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Speaker 1: Crockett and there was a few entries in. There was

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Speaker 1: some just overall good genetics. But the area definitely died

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Speaker 1: off over the years, as some areas do. So I thought, Okay,

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Speaker 1: From there, I started just really pouring through maps and

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Speaker 1: locating some really backcountry basins and just places that I thought,

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Speaker 1: I also kind of picked areas that really lended themselves

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Speaker 1: I really looked for burns and some other things. There

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Speaker 1: so I thought, Okay, I'm going to go in there

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Speaker 1: some animals. There probably won't be any other hunters in there,

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Speaker 1: and I can give it my best shot. Like I said,

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Speaker 1: five days in, I really hadn't seen any deer yet,

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Speaker 1: very hard to see very far. So there's just a

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Speaker 1: you go four or five days without singing animally, start thinking, okay,

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Speaker 1: country looked good. Everything looked good, And on this particular day,

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Speaker 1: it's out of the way. There clearly have been no

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Speaker 1: and it was just almost knee high grass there's a

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Speaker 1: there was some other green up still because it's actually

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Speaker 1: done in pretty early snow. This was early October. On

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Speaker 1: green up growing as well as just like some good

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Speaker 1: this spot has everything I need. It's got cover, it's

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Speaker 1: This looks awesome. And as I started working up that ridge,

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Speaker 1: just got on alert. I was glassing and still hunting

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Speaker 1: and I'm sitting down and I'm glassing and no sooner

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Speaker 1: So I'm like, okay, I gotta really just make sure

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Speaker 1: spotted again. I'm like, okay, I'm not gonna have time

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Speaker 1: It's about yards away off on this other hillside and

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Speaker 1: lose it if I just stopped looking. So I get

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Speaker 1: set up and I and I just watched this dear

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Speaker 1: just kind of think, Okay, what am I gonna do?

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Speaker 1: All right? Decide there's no way if I sit where

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Speaker 1: It's gonna take me a little while because it's so

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Speaker 1: if I'm gonna be able to locate that deer again.

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Speaker 1: So I figured, Okay, I'm just gonna go to where

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Speaker 1: I last saw him or thereabouts. And because it was

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Speaker 1: So I thought, worst case scenario, if I get over there,

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Speaker 1: I can start glassing, maybe pick him back up. If not,

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Speaker 1: I think I saw him go over and hopefully pick

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Speaker 1: through the timber. So I make a move, and I'm

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Speaker 1: while maybe he's still standing or moving around, because it

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Speaker 1: it's burnt out. It's just like you cannot see more

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Speaker 1: that's where he kind of went over. So as I

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Speaker 1: get to that, I start really going slow. And as

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Speaker 1: I creep into where he disappeared, I'm glassing and I'm

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Speaker 1: looking for tracks, and I'd seen a few tracks on

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Speaker 1: deer in the area. And I pick up his antler tips,

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Speaker 1: and the bear grass is so tall and the hills

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Speaker 1: so steep that all I can see are his antlers.

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Speaker 1: But he may have heard me a little bit, and

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Speaker 1: then he I see his head go down. He starts

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Speaker 1: how am I going to get a shot At this point?

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Speaker 1: He's only maybe seventy yards, so I'm looking around and

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Speaker 1: it's full standing. The most that I would ever be

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Speaker 1: able to see is his head in his eyes, but

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Speaker 1: I cannot see his body because of the grass and

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Speaker 1: the slope of the hill. So there's this big down

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Speaker 1: if I just get up a little bit higher, so

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Speaker 1: I wait for the buck, I set my pack down

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Speaker 1: and just like creep up to this log and then

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Speaker 1: wait for him to feed again. As his head goes down,

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Speaker 1: I crawl up on the log, staying low and just

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Speaker 1: make sure he's not looking my direction. And then I

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Speaker 1: stand up and I'm just gonna have to take an

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Speaker 1: antelope archery. I want to spot and stock hunt it,

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Speaker 1: and I don't necessarily want to run into a lot

433
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Speaker 1: of hunters, but I wanna, you know, an average amount

434
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Speaker 1: of success. So I'll kind of figure out that's my

435
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,119
Speaker 1: goal for this. Then I'm going to start looking for

436
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 1: things that line up for that, and then jot down

437
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 1: the units within that over the counter or general type

438
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 1: hunt that align with that goal in mind. Once I

439
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 1: have my list of open zones or other areas, then

440
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 1: I moved a step two, which is mapping it out.

441
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 1: We'll go back to the draw real quick. The map

442
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,400
Speaker 1: it out section you aren't sure you're gonna get a tag.

443
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,679
Speaker 1: But when I'm planning on potential areas to draw, I

444
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 1: will always do this little map it out process as well,

445
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,400
Speaker 1: so I'll be doing the same thing with a draw.

446
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 1: I'll find an area that has statistics that really line

447
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 1: up with what I'm looking for. I'll write down the units.

448
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 1: Then I'll go on my on X hunt app and

449
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 1: I'll go to that exact unit, look at the unit boundaries,

450
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 1: and then what I'm looking for, whether it's over the

451
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 1: counter tag or a draw tag for me, I look

452
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 1: for units that have good access, and I look for

453
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 1: a lot of public land. I don't want my hunt

454
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 1: to be dependent on me asking permission. So if the

455
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 1: area doesn't have anywhere that looks like I could hunt

456
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 1: on public land, I kind of just write it off.

457
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 1: I'm not the type of person. Now, maybe you're the

458
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: guy that likes to go knock on doors and aster

459
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 1: permission and you're good at that. That's not my strong suit.

460
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 1: I've never been good at that. So I look for

461
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 1: areas where I don't have to ask. So once I

462
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,919
Speaker 1: narrow that down, then I go, okay, well, maybe this

463
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: area is not for me, or this one is this

464
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: area has got some public land, or this one's half

465
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 1: private half public, but it looks like there's some access

466
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 1: points where I can kind of hunt the edges and

467
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 1: around some of the private So I do that as

468
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 1: my initial assessment of whether it's an area that I

469
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 1: really want to go for or not. When I'm looking

470
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 1: for public land, what I'm talking about is I'm sure

471
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 1: most of you know this, but you know I'm either

472
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 1: looking for for service land BLM land. So for services

473
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 1: generally always green on the maps. BLM is generally like yellow,

474
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: and a lot of state land it just depends on

475
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: the state, could be blue or purple or something like that.

476
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 1: So I look for those types of lands, and then

477
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,199
Speaker 1: you know, you can also look into you might have

478
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: a unit that has, you know, some kind of refuge

479
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: or something like that. Those you kind of have to

480
00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 1: look up that specific refuge or that type of land

481
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 1: and see what the hunting rules are on that. Most

482
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,640
Speaker 1: for Service and BLM just standard for Service and BLM

483
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 1: lands are pretty wide open for hunting. You know, you

484
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 1: can always look into each individual ranger, district and whatever.

485
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 1: Once you if you already have a tag, if you're

486
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 1: getting over the counter tip, you can look into that

487
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: a little bit more. But mostly, um, you know, that's

488
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Speaker 1: why I like to look for the BLM and the

489
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: Forest Service because they're all open to hunting. So now

490
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 1: we've got this stage where we map it out, we

491
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: just give it a brief overview, and I'm just looking

492
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 1: for access. Um, is there actually somewhere I can hunt

493
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,120
Speaker 1: in this area? And does it have maybe a little

494
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,239
Speaker 1: bit of what I'm looking for, Like is it a

495
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 1: mountain type hunt? Is there some areas away from roads?

496
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: Does it have kind of the things that I like?

497
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 1: And if it passes the stage, then I green light it.

498
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 1: I take that unit and I write that into my

499
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 1: potential units to do my research and my planning stage,

500
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,640
Speaker 1: which will bring us to step three, the planet out. Now,

501
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 1: this is where I kind of try to narrow it

502
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: down and pick a unit. This this really comes into

503
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: play on general tag or over the counter time where

504
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 1: you can hunt like a half the state during certain seasons,

505
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: you know Montana general ELK tag. There's a lot of

506
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 1: different units that you can hunt every year, and I

507
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: may hunt the same unit, I may go to a

508
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,239
Speaker 1: different area and try to explore something else. So what

509
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: I do is I like to pull out my maps

510
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: and really this is where I get down to the

511
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: nitty gritty of the planning portion. And this is why

512
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: it's nice to find some of those over the counter tags,

513
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: because I generally won't get to this stage in a

514
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: draw a tag until I've drawn a tag. But this

515
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 1: time of year, right now, a lot of draw results

516
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 1: are coming out. Maybe you're a lucky guy that you

517
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 1: put in for a new Mexico ELK tag and drew it.

518
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: Maybe you know some other draw results should be popping

519
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: out pretty soon, Utah, you know, who knows what Whatever

520
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: you put in for, maybe you've got a tag in

521
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 1: your pocket now now you're going to jump into this

522
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: planning stage. So I use the Onyx Hunt app a lot,

523
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: and then I also will jump back and forth to

524
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: Google Earth just to use a more a little bit

525
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: more three D. I like using the Onyx because it's

526
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: got so many different layers. One, it's got the unit boundaries,

527
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: which are super helpful. You can go between satellite and topo,

528
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 1: and then I can also do different layers like wildfire layers,

529
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: clear cut layers, you know, historic migration. There's just all

530
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: kinds of different features that are really specific to hunters.

531
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 1: So that's why I do a lot of my planning

532
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,199
Speaker 1: on that app. And also I can do it on

533
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: the computer as well, which is sometimes nice to have

534
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: a little bit bigger view. But I get asked the

535
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 1: question all the time like there's so much land, where

536
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,479
Speaker 1: do I even start? And so I would say, you

537
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: start with habitat, and then I also get the question like, well,

538
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: how do you know animals will be there? And the

539
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 1: real answer is you don't. Um that's where the exploration

540
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: portion comes in. But if you think about it, every

541
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: good exploration has to have a plan going into it.

542
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: It's just gonna be a lot more successful that way. Yeah,

543
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 1: you could just show up and just uh kind of

544
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 1: start randomly spinning your wheels. But if you have some

545
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: form of a plan based loosely on an idea of hey,

546
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: I've already kind of scouted this in a way where

547
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 1: I've found an identified good habitat, then when you get

548
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 1: into the area, the exploration and execution of that plan

549
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,479
Speaker 1: comes into play, and now things might change, but it

550
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: gives you a good baseline to start from. So what

551
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: I look for personally is I just look for similar

552
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 1: topography and terrain that I like to hunt, and for

553
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 1: a place that resembles where I've seen animals before. Now,

554
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: this might be a little difficult if you've never Like

555
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: if you're hey, I'm new to LK hunting, new to

556
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: mule deer hunting, I'm from the East Coast, I've never

557
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: hunted out west, that might not be the best advice

558
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: because you don't really know what you're looking for. So

559
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: what I'll say is, as of right now and in

560
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: the future, I'll touch a lot more on some of

561
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: this stuff. But um, you could go back to episode twelve.

562
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: I talk about topography a lot. I don't necessarily have

563
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: the time to recap all of it right now, So

564
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: go back to episode twelve. That's new to you. For

565
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: everybody else, I'm saying, the first things I look for

566
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: is just similar topography and trained to where I like

567
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: to hunt. Now, I also when I'm looking into areas,

568
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: I know my style of hunting and I know what

569
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: I like to hunt. And some of this also depends

570
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: on the type of animal you're hunting. But I like

571
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: to glass, so I gravitate towards that kind of country

572
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: areas that I can cover with binoculars optics from a

573
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: good vantage point and see a lot. Now, if you

574
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: like to still hunt, maybe you grew up in the

575
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: Pacific Northwest and you know the idea of glass ng okay,

576
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: but you're just a lot better sneaking around still hunting. Then,

577
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: you know, look into the areas that kind of suit

578
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: your style of hunting. You know, maybe you're gonna look

579
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: for more south facing slopes that have good timber pockets,

580
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: or or whole mountains with good tim brood areas and

581
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: maybe a flat bench of topography where ELK might bed.

582
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: I also did a little timber topography for ELK podcasts.

583
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: You go back and find if that's you know, if

584
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: you still hunt for deer where you're at, you want

585
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: a little bit of different ideas on still hunting for elk.

586
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: Maybe that's your style. Now focus in on the areas

587
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: that's your style. Maybe you're coming out Western you want

588
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: to stand hunt. That's completely possible too, you know. So

589
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: what you'd be looking for something that suits your style

590
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: of hunting. If you're gonna hunt from a tree stand,

591
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: maybe you're looking for water holes if it's an arid area,

592
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: or maybe potential wallo spots. Maybe you're coming to hunt

593
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: white tails, so you're gonna be looking for tree stands.

594
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: Um you're gonna be looking for river bottoms. Now, once

595
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: I've got the units, hone in on places that really

596
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: help the way that I like to hunt, and it

597
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: could be different for everyone. So because I like to glass,

598
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna identify glassing knobs. I'm also gonna switch between

599
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: layers of fires, topos, satellite, the hybrid, maybe a clear

600
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,719
Speaker 1: cut layer, because I know that those areas that might

601
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: be more open from fire and other things. It might

602
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: used to be timbered, but now it lends itself to

603
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: glass and because it's open and burned or there's a

604
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: new clear cut and I can find maybe a glassing

605
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: knob into that clear cut. So I'll now take that

606
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: the app and I'll look for areas where it looks

607
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: like I can look into other areas to really help

608
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: the way that I like to hunt. So then I'll

609
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: go and I talked about it before, but I'll maybe

610
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: drop a pin on potential glassing knobs and then I

611
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: can take that pin and go check it on Google

612
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: Earth and kind of sit myself in that spot and

613
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: see what I can see from there, and then I'll

614
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: mark those glassing knobs and that'll build out my plan

615
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: for where I'm going to hunt when I get into

616
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: the unit. So I dropped pins on places that look

617
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: good from afar, and then I like to kind of

618
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: hone in on places that might be far from the roads.

619
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: But I'll even highlight a few places that have easy

620
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: access good access that I can kind of preview. These

621
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: will be spots that I look at when I preview

622
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: the area. And what I mean by preview the area

623
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: is my first steps when I get into a new

624
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: unit for scouting and hunting. I don't really have time

625
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: to cover that this week, but we that will be

626
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: a future podcast. So As of right now, we're finding

627
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: areas at home, and then we're kind of planning out

628
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: that hunt based on the ways that we like to hunt.

629
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: Once we have that, then we've got our game plan.

630
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: So when we get into the area, we're going to

631
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: be more efficient and probably most likely more successful. I

632
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: hope that helps you guys. I know, I've been spending

633
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: in absolute ton of time researching hunts, and I've never

634
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: spent so much time deciding on units that I'm going

635
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: to apply for. I actually got my Idaho sheep application in.

636
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: I was thinking about doing elk deer antelope again, but

637
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: I normally do sheep, and I stopped for a little

638
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: bit it. Now I'm like, okay, I found some spots

639
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: that sound good to me, So I got that application in.

640
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: Did a lot of research, and obviously on that kind

641
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: of thing, I mean, the odds are so minimal anyways,

642
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: you're almost just better going for broke. But I thought, okay, well,

643
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's fun for me to look at

644
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: maps over potential areas and while doing that, maybe discovering

645
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: something that you could use later on, or maybe you know,

646
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Speaker 1: you have a friend draws some tag and you go, hey,

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Speaker 1: I've already looked at the maps a lot on that.

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Speaker 1: Let me help you out, I don't know, it's a

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Speaker 1: lot of for me. It's just a lot of fun

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Speaker 1: of researching areas. I've spent a lot of time on

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Speaker 1: pretty much every fishing game website, reading through all the regulations,

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Speaker 1: all the potential hunts for so many different states, and

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Speaker 1: we start adding different states to the list. I've got

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Speaker 1: like this messy piece of paper that has hundreds of

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Speaker 1: ideas that I've already confused myself four times on. I

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Speaker 1: sometimes on a lot of states wait till the last

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Speaker 1: minute to apply because I'm just like, I'm so in

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Speaker 1: evolved in the planning process. Once I apply, then I

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Speaker 1: kind of lose that thing to look forward to of

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Speaker 1: just checking more spots and new spots and keep planning out.

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Speaker 1: And obviously I've got a couple of tags in my

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Speaker 1: pocket for this year. I haven't drawn anything. The states

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Speaker 1: that I have applied for I haven't drawn, but I

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Speaker 1: did pick up a couple of general tags. So I've

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Speaker 1: got a general tag in Montana, and I'll be hunting

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Speaker 1: general elk and general deer and just looking for a

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Speaker 1: few new spots for potentially antelope and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: So I've I've been having a lot of fun just

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Speaker 1: going over maps, finding new spots, highlighting some new areas

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about. Maybe not next week, I

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Speaker 1: do want to do a Q and A because I've

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Speaker 1: been getting so many questions. So maybe next week I'll

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Speaker 1: do a Q and A and then we'll jump back

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Speaker 1: into like, once you have that tag, what are your

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Speaker 1: first steps in the unit? So we'll take you know,

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Speaker 1: your your your first steps in the research we've just

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Speaker 1: talked about. Now let's just go but with a little

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Speaker 1: first steps in the unit. But maybe we'll do a

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Speaker 1: Q and A first next week. Sounds kind of loose

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Speaker 1: and goosey, but I haven't decided. We'll see which way

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Speaker 1: the wind blows. I just I know there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of good questions that people ask and I do want

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Speaker 1: to get to those. I don't want to let them

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Speaker 1: sit too long. So oh, I'm hopefully going to be

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Speaker 1: able to do a little bit of turkey hunting here

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Speaker 1: in the coming week, which would be fun. Maybe if

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Speaker 1: we do a Q and A, I can talk a

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Speaker 1: little bit about turkeys as well. I haven't hunted him

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Speaker 1: in a long time because I've been hunting other stuff

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Speaker 1: spring bear or in New Zealand or Australia. This is

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Speaker 1: the first time I haven't gone to Australia or New Zealand. Well,

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Speaker 1: New Zealand it's been I've hunted their fall there for

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Speaker 1: the last I think ten or eleven years, so that's

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Speaker 1: the first time I've missed the hunting season. But even

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Speaker 1: if you live in New Zealand, you're missing the hunting

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Speaker 1: season this year because of the lockdown. So it's just

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Speaker 1: a strange time for me. I'm not actually used to springtime.

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Speaker 1: I haven't been in spring and many many years, almost

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Speaker 1: a decade, because I normally go where it's fall during

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Speaker 1: the spring, so it's kind of cool to maybe go

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Speaker 1: chase them to since I'm here this spring, I've just

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Speaker 1: been waiting for some restrictions to lift. So if you

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Speaker 1: got any questions or you know whatever, feel free to

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Speaker 1: reach out via Instagram. That's pretty much where I do

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Speaker 1: most of my answering messages and stuff like that. And also,

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Speaker 1: you know, feel free to if you don't subscribe to

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Speaker 1: the podcast, if you like it, subscribe, give us a

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Speaker 1: comment or like, really appreciate that, and maybe cruise through

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Speaker 1: if you, if some of this is new stuff to you,

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Speaker 1: cruise through some of the past episodes. I know there's

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Speaker 1: I touched on a lot of stuff in earlier episodes,

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Speaker 1: and I'm always kind of afraid of repeating. But I also,

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Speaker 1: I mean, half the stuff I talked about I don't remember,

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Speaker 1: so it's never bad to kind of rehash some really

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Speaker 1: good tactics. All right, stay out there, I mean, stay

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Speaker 1: in there what I don't even know. Gosh, this quarantine's

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Speaker 1: got me all objecked. But I've got my Onyx app

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Speaker 1: up right now, and I'm about to go apply for

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Speaker 1: a couple of deer tags. Fingers crossed, hope, I draw

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Speaker 1: good luck to you all. A hand counted the candle

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Speaker 1: countr