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Speaker 1: Thank you everybody for joining us on this par Kapper

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Speaker 1: episode of Magical Rewind.

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Speaker 2: We've got kind of a special one today.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever referred to one of our

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Speaker 1: guests as special and looking forward to it have.

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Speaker 3: I think so we should probably give them a little

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Speaker 3: bit more here and there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it, but so yes, it's interesting because

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Speaker 1: not only is this person a star in their own

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Speaker 1: right and right now a part of the biggest show

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Speaker 3: But.

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Speaker 1: She's got kind of an interesting story going on because

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Speaker 1: she's kind of the ultimate stage mom now in a

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Speaker 1: good way.

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Speaker 3: Of one of the biggest.

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Speaker 1: Biggest Disneys stars in the world right now in the world,

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Speaker 1: and only about to get bigger. We will get into

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Speaker 1: all of that, so please help us. Welcome Felicia Barton. Hey, hello, heying, fine,

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Speaker 1: how are you?

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Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us?

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Speaker 3: Poor, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: I'm having trouble.

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Speaker 1: I'm having trouble seeing you because you're in camouflage.

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Speaker 3: You just made her panic. I was like, well, we're

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Speaker 3: just getting started.

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Speaker 1: Match on Green too, so we shouldn't go out hiking

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Speaker 1: right now during deer season, is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: That wouldn't be a good thing.

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Speaker 1: You're absolutely right for our guests out there that are

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Speaker 1: just joining us. What exactly, because you have a very

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Speaker 1: important job for Dancing with Stars, which has become I mean,

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Speaker 1: was always a popular show, but there's something about this

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Speaker 1: season that everybody said has just kind of it's taken

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Speaker 1: over the zeitgeist. And and so you've had some great

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Speaker 1: contestants and then some crappy ones.

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Speaker 2: Daniel Fishelon. We don't like to talk about her, but

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Speaker 2: mean mean, she's awful. She couldn't dance. I don't care.

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Speaker 2: So what exactly what do you do for and with

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Speaker 2: Dancing with the Stars.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm one of the singers in Dancing with

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Speaker 3: the Stars. I've this is my eleventh year on the show.

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Speaker 3: Wow for eleven years, which you all know in entertainment

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Speaker 3: is like I feel like it's a gift if I

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Speaker 3: get like a few seasons on some right, and to

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Speaker 3: be working on this for eleven years is actually crazy.

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Speaker 3: And it's still always like a pinch me, like how

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Speaker 3: do I get to do you know what I love

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Speaker 3: to do for a living. It's really really it's huge.

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Speaker 3: It's a big blessing for sure, But yeah, we recreate,

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Speaker 3: like I would say maybe ninety five to ninety eight

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Speaker 3: percent of the music that you hear on that show,

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Speaker 3: we're recreating it. And it's so much fun because it's

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Speaker 3: not just I also work on American Idol and that

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Speaker 3: show is really special in its own way as well.

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Speaker 3: This show is cool because we're recreating these records. Right,

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Speaker 3: We're not just singing background vocals. We're like singing the

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Speaker 3: leads and creating this sound. So it's like one day

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Speaker 3: I'm giving Katie Perry vibes, the next day it's like

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Speaker 3: Whitney Houston or some like weird rendition of something else,

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Speaker 3: like you just know. So we get to really play

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Speaker 3: with our vocals and like the shaping that it takes

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Speaker 3: and like what we're gonna do. It's really cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So do you get like a list?

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Speaker 1: Do they just come to you and they say, like,

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Speaker 1: all right, here are the songs that the dancers have

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Speaker 1: and the pros have picked for this week. Now we

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Speaker 1: have to pick which one of you is going to

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Speaker 2: Or I mean, how does that work?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Pretty much, that's kind of how it goes. Our our

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Speaker 3: come up with they go, you know, there's a whole

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Speaker 3: and they're connecting the dots between the dancers and the

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Speaker 3: they're kind of going like, this is the song that

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Speaker 3: out of the four singers that we have, this person

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Speaker 3: would be best suited for this. Or sometimes it's something

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Speaker 3: But usually I would say the majority of it is

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Speaker 4: I mean, and you're saying like it's not even just

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Speaker 4: the full vibe of every song that you bring, and that's.

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Speaker 3: Blessing and curse. As an artist, I would say, yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's not like you get to do that whole kind

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Speaker 3: of you know, Whitney Houston, the whole time whole time, right.

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Speaker 1: Or I mean I guess occasionally, Like last week was

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Speaker 1: Prince week, so it's like you just get to do

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Speaker 1: all the Prince's songs.

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Speaker 3: Who I didn't have any songs last week of Prince Well,

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Speaker 3: I mean as far as I could tell.

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Speaker 1: Again, this is the first time I've ever watched Dancing

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Speaker 1: with the Stars. My father podcast that my partner and

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Speaker 1: I writer and I do. We do a podcast about

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Speaker 1: the fact that we don't know anything about Dancing with

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Speaker 1: the Star and so we're.

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Speaker 2: Following the journey.

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Speaker 1: But if I'm right, then next week there's five couples left.

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Speaker 1: They all dance three times. So you've got fifteen songs

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Speaker 3: Do we have more than that because we've also got

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Speaker 3: to look and see. I feel like this week's list

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be a really long day on Saturday. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Because I haven't been back to the ballroom in so

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Speaker 4: Think viewers really get a chance to see everything that

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Speaker 3: Then there's also moments where you guys are actually standing

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Speaker 2: I mean it's like you're a massive part of the show, huge.

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Speaker 4: And until you're in the ballroom and you can feel

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Speaker 3: It's just it's it.

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Speaker 4: It takes the energy to the roof and that's where

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Speaker 4: I feel the performers end up getting and a lot

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Speaker 4: of it is because of you guys right there singing

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Speaker 4: your hearts out to the best music ever.

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Speaker 3: You get it. I mean it's like when you're in

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Speaker 3: we're definitely out a little bit more than we used

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Speaker 3: We've also felt that, like on all of our social media,

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Speaker 3: there's actually people back there. Yeah, these songs and I

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: I both times I was there, I sat in the

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Speaker 1: every time I go there, he's like, hey, man, you're back.

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Speaker 2: Give me knocks, like, hey, what's going to be a

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Speaker 1: Like there, you're so nice and welcoming and everybody is

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Speaker 1: You said you've been there eleven years, so a couple questions.

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Speaker 1: First of all, have you been handed.

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Speaker 2: A week where you're like, ugh, I don't want to

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Speaker 3: Sure, I got to think about it, but like I

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Speaker 3: my yes, yeah totally. Do you feel like with your

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Speaker 3: able to do a little bit of prediction? Yeah? Absolutely,

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Speaker 3: I feel like we've gotten really good at it. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: Week, I mean you've got to see that. You got

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Speaker 2: I mean you're there.

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Speaker 3: The energy again, that energy in the ballroom says a

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Speaker 3: right in trouble this week. You know, there's there's just

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Speaker 3: the singers, we kind of have this thing where we'll like,

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Speaker 3: And usually I will say CJ is usually he gets

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Speaker 1: Then that leads me to, in your entire time there,

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Speaker 1: For Dancing with the Stars, do you have to pre

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Speaker 2: Are you guys singing live? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: to go to American Idol finale that night or if

441
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Speaker 3: I was going to go sing on Dancing with the

442
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Speaker 3: Stars that night.

443
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,120
Speaker 2: Oh like, good choice, good choice.

444
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Speaker 3: So well, I chose to go listen to my song

445
00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,240
Speaker 3: being sung on American Idol. I was like, you know

446
00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:57,240
Speaker 3: what at that point, this is so full circle for me, Like, yeah,

447
00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,760
Speaker 3: contestin and so I was like, you know what, if

448
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,920
Speaker 3: it's meant to be, it'll be. And the next season

449
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 3: I got a call for the first episode and I

450
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:10,400
Speaker 3: never left Wow. And then in between all the seasons

451
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,040
Speaker 3: I'm doing, I do a lot of TV and film

452
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,040
Speaker 3: vocal work, theme songs, things like that, tons of stuff

453
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:15,879
Speaker 3: for Disney Channel.

454
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, theme song. You did the theme song to

455
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Speaker 1: the New Ducktails, didn't you. I Yeah, that's me, which

456
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 1: is like one of the most iconic. The original one

457
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,040
Speaker 1: is like the most one of the most iconic animated

458
00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,879
Speaker 1: opening ever. So were you when you heard that you

459
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 1: were going to be doing that? Was that just kind

460
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 1: of a dream come true?

461
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,679
Speaker 3: It's like life changing moments. And we're living in this

462
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 3: apartment studio city, and we have our studio, our recording

463
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 3: studio set up in our guest bedroom and just like

464
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 3: you know, just kind of a hole in the wall

465
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,439
Speaker 3: type thing situation. And this producer that I had been

466
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 3: working a lot with, he was like, hey, you know,

467
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 3: I need you to demo this. This is crazy. But

468
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 3: like Ducktails is coming back, and I'm like, I'm sorry,

469
00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,439
Speaker 3: I call my brother. I'm like, you're never going to believe,

470
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,159
Speaker 3: like I see Ducktails. But then they're like, it's just

471
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 3: a demo. Like I think they're gonna go out to

472
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 3: some people and they're gonna see if, like you know,

473
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 3: a big wig's gonna do it. So I think it

474
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,120
Speaker 3: went out to like Kelly and Miley and like all

475
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 3: of the people, like, let's get somebody to do this,

476
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,879
Speaker 3: and for whatever reason, they just kept coming back to

477
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Speaker 3: my demo and we call it demoitis, which I'm just

478
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Speaker 3: glad that they got demoitis for that. Yes, And then

479
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 3: I it was a full pinch me just I couldn't

480
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Speaker 3: believe it. I couldn't. Yeah, and also it's like scary

481
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 3: too because it's Ducktails. So it's like our people hate

482
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 3: you because of it. They're gonna be like, oh my god,

483
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 3: you you know after the whole thing up, Like yeah.

484
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Speaker 1: I played I played the New Liono and ThunderCats, so

485
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Speaker 1: I know exactly what that's like. You're either I'm gonna

486
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:44,919
Speaker 1: people are gonna love it or they're gonna hate it,

487
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 1: and there's not gonna be any in between.

488
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,880
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, right, there is no middle ground, no right.

489
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 2: No one.

490
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,640
Speaker 1: You never hear like, yeah that was pretty good. Nope,

491
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:54,879
Speaker 1: it's oh my god, it's better than the original. Or

492
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Speaker 1: I can't believe you screwed up the original.

493
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Speaker 2: That's all You're gonna.

494
00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 3: Get so harsh.

495
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Speaker 4: It's the hard part about nostalgia stuff like it. You

496
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 4: can having remakes and reboots and stuff can completely.

497
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 3: Destroy what was the original.

498
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Speaker 4: And some hard times, but I will say we're going

499
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Speaker 4: to transfer I guess kind of into Malachi.

500
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Speaker 3: We watched under Wraps.

501
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,120
Speaker 4: Right, and I know we'll go back to the original,

502
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:20,919
Speaker 4: but like that's not a case. That's one of the

503
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 4: things I was talking to you at the twentieth anniversary.

504
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,199
Speaker 4: I was like, they did the movie better than the original,

505
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 4: and like Malki killed it, Like.

506
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Speaker 2: We kind of thought, so, yeah, we thought it was.

507
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 1: Better, and we do want to get into Malachi. But

508
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Speaker 1: it's actually I've been doing some research. I think, are

509
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:39,640
Speaker 1: you also Clint Barton who is Hawkeye on The Avengers?

510
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Speaker 2: Are you his mom too?

511
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Speaker 1: I'm just checking No, I'm not okay checking it because

512
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Speaker 1: if you, I was like, is one of your kids

513
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Speaker 1: an Avenger?

514
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 2: Because that's kind of awesome.

515
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 3: That I'm really the ultimate monitor.

516
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Speaker 2: Right. That's I was like, man, and right.

517
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Speaker 3: Here's nothing else. You just lift your hands and you.

518
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Speaker 1: Know why one guy who saves the world and the

519
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 1: other ones an act don't.

520
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 2: Worry about it.

521
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 3: Amazing.

522
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Speaker 1: Hey, it's Wilfred Ell and Sabrina Bryan from the podcast

523
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Speaker 1: Magical Rewind, and we have a very special guest on

524
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Speaker 1: this week's episode. He's the mastermind behind some of your

525
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: favorite movies like Hocus Pocus, Newsy's, The Descendants, and of

526
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 1: course High School Musical. Yes, it is the one and

527
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Speaker 1: only a living legend director Kenny or Tega.

528
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Speaker 4: We sit down with Kenny to talk about his incredible

529
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Speaker 4: career and the legacy he's created with his choreography and films.

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Speaker 2: You seriously will not want to miss this one.

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Speaker 4: Listen to Magical Rewind on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

532
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Speaker 4: or wherever you get your podcasts.

533
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Speaker 6: Hi, it's Jenny Garth, host of the I Choose Me podcast.

534
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Speaker 6: This week, I'm so excited to welcome my friend Gabrielle

535
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Speaker 6: Carterris the Andrea Zuckerman from Beverly Hills nine o two

536
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Speaker 6: on OZHO to the pod.

537
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Speaker 3: We're choosing to get real. I applied to the networks

538
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Speaker 3: about my aging contracts. They never would have hired me

539
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 3: if they had no mind age. We're choosing to be honest.

540
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 5: She looked at me, and she said, this business is

541
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 5: about the mask, which you have neither of.

542
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Speaker 3: And we're choosing to get nostalgic.

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Speaker 6: Listen to I Choose Me on the iHeartRadio app, Apple

544
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Speaker 6: podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

545
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,719
Speaker 1: One of the things we always talk about, especially on

546
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: pod Meats World, but Sabena knows this as well, is

547
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: especially when you start very very young in the industry,

548
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: sometimes it's not the best thing in the world, and

549
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: you really need people that are looking out for you,

550
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 1: which you obviously have been. So how where did the

551
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Speaker 1: idea come that your son was going to be in

552
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 1: the entertainment industry? Was this his idea or your idea?

553
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 1: And how did you kind of help navigate what can

554
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Speaker 1: be at times a pretty treacherous road.

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Speaker 3: Totally? Yeah. I mean the thing is, as I feel

556
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Speaker 3: like with Malachi, he kind of fell into it naturally. Right.

557
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 3: My husband and I both are in music and in entertainment,

558
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 3: and so being in this space has always been like

559
00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 3: a very natural space for him to live in, and

560
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Speaker 3: I'm super thankful to just you know that I've gotten

561
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Speaker 3: to do a lot of the things that I've been

562
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 3: able to do to kind of like prepare him and

563
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 3: have a lot to like look back on. Obviously at

564
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,679
Speaker 3: this point, he's just doing his thing, you know. But

565
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 3: I feel like it's just been a gift for me

566
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Speaker 3: to even be in television and in music and have

567
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Speaker 3: an idea, some sense of an idea of what to

568
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Speaker 3: expect for him. But he just he really did fall

569
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Speaker 3: into this. It's crazy. He when he was four years old,

570
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Speaker 3: we were I'd signed a steal out in LA and

571
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 3: I was coming back and forth between Nashville and LA

572
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 3: and writing music for artists and doing the whole thing.

573
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Speaker 3: I went into the studio session and the guy that

574
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 3: owned the studio walked into my session and he was like, Hey,

575
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Speaker 3: is that your kid outside on top of a car

576
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 3: dancing to Justin Bieber? Probably run outside, And then sure enough,

577
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 3: my husband literally was like blasting Justin Bieber in our

578
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Speaker 3: call and he was on top of the roof of

579
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Speaker 3: the car dancing, And then he was like, I think

580
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 3: he should meet my friend's best friend who's a manager

581
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 3: and blah blah blah, and that was literally the beginning

582
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 3: of it. And Margo, his manager, has been his manager

583
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 3: since since that. Wow, So he's had the same team literally,

584
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 3: And then of course every meeting that he went into,

585
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 3: like when he's meeting with agents and everything, they were like, okay,

586
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 3: can you we hear you like to dance to Justin Bieber.

587
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 3: The first meeting, my husband literally puts him on top

588
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 3: of this giant conference room table and he just gets

589
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 3: up and he's dancing, and they're like, any kid that's

590
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 3: willing to like jump up on a table right dancing

591
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 3: in front of people that he doesn't know, we feel

592
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 3: like it's probably going to be a good thing.

593
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Speaker 2: Did you recognize the talent right away? I mean when

594
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Speaker 2: he was super young.

595
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know you always kind of feel like

596
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Speaker 3: your kid's the cutest kid in the world, and like, oh,

597
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 3: they're gonna whatever. But like he just he's always had

598
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 3: this really magnetic thing about him. He never really knew

599
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Speaker 3: a stranger. He was always willing to like perform on

600
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Speaker 3: a like just would do whatever whenever. However, like it

601
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 3: didn't happen. There was no reservation. I mean, he's always

602
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 3: had like a healthy fear of like strangers. But you know,

603
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 3: he he just was always willing to do it, which

604
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 3: was cool. We never wanted him. We never wanted him

605
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Speaker 3: to do this if he, you know, was gonna be like, oh,

606
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 3: I don't want to, you know, I'm nervous or anything.

607
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 3: I think that's kind of where a lot of parents

608
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 3: miss right. They're like, oh, my kid's got it, now

609
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 3: go do it, and then their kid gets in front

610
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 3: of people and they just get this like they don't

611
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 3: got it. It's not right for them, you know, and

612
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 3: that's okay, something else is great for them. But yeah,

613
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:43,479
Speaker 3: Malachi just from the beginning always had this like this spark. Wow.

614
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Speaker 4: Then he gets his manager. You guys are living in

615
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Speaker 4: Nashville still or.

616
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 3: You in La. Yeah, so that was pretty The crossover

617
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 3: was like within a few months, I feel like, yeah,

618
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 3: we we started. He signed with her. He booked his

619
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Speaker 3: first thing, which was on The Young and the Restless.

620
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 3: He booked like a guest spot on The Young of

621
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Speaker 3: the Restless at five years old. It was the Christmas

622
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 3: episode and he ran out in these cute little Christmas

623
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Speaker 3: pjs and he was adorable.

624
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: So not a Christmas episode of a soap is like

625
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: Santa gets amnesia and has a twin.

626
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 2: It's like you forget about that, Like Rember, I can't

627
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 2: be like out of.

628
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 3: A dream sequence. This guy literally it was like he

629
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 3: wasn't a real kid. It was his dream child that

630
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 3: he had had with somebody and.

631
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Speaker 2: There you go.

632
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 3: Okay called it yep, yeah, but like pretty close yeah

633
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 3: right yeah. The drama.

634
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 2: The other thing.

635
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Speaker 1: I mean, I I don't have children, thankfully, never wanted

636
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: them myself. But one of the reasons that I one

637
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: of the things about it that's so interesting is I

638
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: always imagine how difficult it would be for anybody, let

639
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: alone somebody in the industry, but especially somebody in the

640
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: industry parents also having to deal with social media, which

641
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: has become such a juggernaut and is so important in

642
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: young people's lives, but is also can just be adored

643
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: the evil yes where it's and it never I mean,

644
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: you read these stories about you know, bullying, bullying used

645
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: to stop when you left school. Well now it's twenty

646
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: four to seven because social media never shuts up. So

647
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Speaker 1: I mean, how did you also guide him or help

648
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: guide him through the minefield for lack of a better term,

649
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: that is social media.

650
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a big one for sure. I think kids

651
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 3: have too much access too quickly. I think it's you know,

652
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 3: parental involvement has to be like, he wasn't going to

653
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 3: have social media unless I was running the account for

654
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 3: very many years. And to be completely honest, I still

655
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 3: have his TikTok and his smart Instagram and he's eighteen,

656
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,959
Speaker 3: you know, obviously like posting for him and doing all

657
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 3: the things. But like you know, there are occasions where

658
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 3: he has no Internet access because he's on a shoot

659
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 3: somewhere and he's like, oh my god, I need to

660
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 3: do this. Can you help me? But like to this day,

661
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 3: I feel like accountability in your life, in every area

662
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 3: of your life is so important, no matter what it

663
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 3: is like, but social media, there's so many It's just

664
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 3: it creates this weird accessibility to your life that is

665
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 3: unhealthy and and not normal, you know. And then in turn,

666
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 3: we also have weird accessibility to information now that I

667
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 3: don't feel like our minds and our brains were created

668
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 3: to be able to handle all of this. So yeah,

669
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 3: it's it's a balance. It's been you know, there are

670
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 3: there were moments, probably when he was younger, when it

671
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 3: was a little bit more of a fight, right, but

672
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 3: only because it's like, but what why can't I Well,

673
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 3: because you can't right now because you're you're not ready

674
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 3: for that yet. And that's the way. And he has

675
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 3: really had quite an explosion in social media even in

676
00:31:54,880 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 3: the last like six months. It's honestly been the craziest

677
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 3: thing to watch, just since Zombie is coming out and

678
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 3: then the tour. I think he's gone from on his

679
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 3: TikTok he was like maybe right under three million to

680
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 3: now he's about to hit seven million followers on his TikTok.

681
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 3: And it's just the responsibility that you carry when you're

682
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 3: you know, you have access to that many people is

683
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 3: heavy for any person. But then also, uh, you know,

684
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 3: they're just these computer warriors that sit behind a computer

685
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 3: and feel like they can say whatever they want to say.

686
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 2: And yep, board cowboys.

687
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, cowboys. I love that. Yeah. And they just

688
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 3: they love to stir the pot. You know, is pretty

689
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 3: good at going like I'm gonna shut this off. Yeah,

690
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 3: he sees it. He laughs about it. He's really thankful

691
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 3: to be working and he's you know what, I'm just

692
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 3: gonna go this is what it is.

693
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: And it really is holding a tiger by the tail

694
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: though social media. And it's one of those things that

695
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: I did it for a little while and about a

696
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: year or two and I was like, this is not

697
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: good and I erased everything and I haven't had it

698
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: for years.

699
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 2: And it's been magical. Yeah, to not have any social media.

700
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: It's one of those things where it doesn't seem to

701
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: be getting better, it seems to be getting worse. Yeah,

702
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: So you wonder if it's going to come to a

703
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: head somehow, and usually that's not going to be a

704
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: good thing. It's not gonna it's not gonna always we're

705
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: going to wake up and it's going to be rainbow.

706
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: Something's going to happen, uh to where you know, we

707
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: have to find that, like you're talking about, it's a

708
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: balance obviously in your life, but it might come down

709
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: to it being regulated like alcohol or cigarettes, where it's

710
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: you know, when you're twenty one and over, you can

711
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: do social media, but before then you can't.

712
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, so who knows.

713
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 3: It is hard though, because they're there. It's a part

714
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 3: of your business. You know, there's branding and this is

715
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 3: advertising now, this where they're making you know, any company

716
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 3: is making their money from TikTok, and suretizing is taking

717
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 3: place through all of that, so there is this weird balance.

718
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 3: I do think that there's a parental responsibility though, Yeah,

719
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 3: and parents have to go my kid's not right for this,

720
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 3: or like it's so easy to take away. Hey Bud,

721
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 3: you know what, You're gonna lose your Etagram for the

722
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 3: next thirty days, like he was younger, you know what

723
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 3: I mean, Like, you're gonna not be able to do this.

724
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 3: This isn't a part. This isn't something that you get

725
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 3: access to because it's a privilege, right, and if you

726
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 3: don't know how to balance that privilege, then you need

727
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 3: to take that away.

728
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 4: Well, I would imagine too, because I know, like with

729
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 4: my social media, I tend to end up not posting

730
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 4: very often because I'm really hyper aware of posting where

731
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 4: I'm at and like while I'm there. I had a

732
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 4: scary situation while I was doing the Cheetah Girls with

733
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 4: somebody who was kind of you know, stocker situation and

734
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 4: showing up at my shows that didn't have any kids.

735
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 3: Didn't make sense for him to be there. He was

736
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 3: coming to like the random stuff.

737
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 4: He was somehow getting backstage passes like very very, very scary,

738
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 4: And I didn't have social media at all, right, so

739
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 4: this was him finding out somehow.

740
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 3: But now you are so to be, like you said

741
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,439
Speaker 3: that accessibility. So I was wondering, like as a mom

742
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 3: for you, you.

743
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 4: Know, I know he's eighteen now, but when you did

744
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 4: have a lot more hands on with it, were there

745
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 4: certain rules that you guys kind of he started to

746
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 4: have to really understand, like we don't post until this

747
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 4: or you know, things like that, so that you felt

748
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 4: like he was safe, because that's a big a scary

749
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 4: thing is to feel like your your son is so recognizable.

750
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 4: I'm sure at this point, well, we can't go anywhere

751
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 4: without people one hundred percent knowing who he is and

752
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 4: being excited that he's there, But then to actually give

753
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 4: them a heads up of where you're going makes that

754
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 4: even scarier one hundred percent.

755
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 3: We just had he came home for two and a

756
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,919
Speaker 3: half weeks. He just shot Camp Rock in Vancouver, which

757
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 3: we're so excited about it. Did you get to go

758
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 3: set work? I know he's eighteen five, big boy. I

759
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 3: went for like a few days. I went for here

760
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 3: and right at the beginning, I was there for a

761
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 3: little bit too, but I was shooting Dancing at the

762
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 3: Stars while he was shooting, so I wasn't able to right.

763
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 3: But when he came home for two and a half

764
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 3: weeks before, he just went back to go shoot Coven,

765
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 3: a new show. And so while he was here, we

766
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 3: were in our neighborhood. We went up up the street

767
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 3: to Mendosino Farms to go have lunch on a Sunday afternoon,

768
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 3: and it was the first time that we had to

769
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 3: get our lunch to go. We like sat down at

770
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 3: the table and then within like minutes it was a

771
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 3: madhouse and we were like, okay, we're just gonna get

772
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 3: our food.

773
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 2: Jah. It was.

774
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 3: It was weird to feel like we were, you know,

775
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 3: going to our regular like neighborhood restaurant to have a

776
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 3: lunch and then all of a sudden. But also Halloween

777
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,959
Speaker 3: was wild. We had about one hundred people that showed

778
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 3: up and Malachi wasn't even home at the time, and

779
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:43,240
Speaker 3: they were all at our front door asking where Malachi was. Oh, so, yeah,

780
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 3: we are moving, and that's you know, I think that's

781
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 3: just part of it. It's it's you know, I think

782
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 3: with the like the rules and stuff, we've always been

783
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 3: really open. We've loved kind of like opening up our

784
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 3: life to the public because I think there's something that's

785
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 3: really been special about the three of us and our

786
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 3: bond that the three of us have, and we've loved

787
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 3: sharing that with people through our podcast and through social

788
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 3: media and all that kind of stuff. So it's been

789
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 3: really special and there's just this balance. So we're just

790
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 3: now starting to feel the other side of it. I

791
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 3: think a little bit more sure where we're going, like okay,

792
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 3: like now we have to be even more protective of

793
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 3: like people in on where we're at, where we're located.

794
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 3: Disney's been really really good about that though. They have

795
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 3: a lot of talent one O one training and stuff

796
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 3: that they go wow kids with the talent. I don't

797
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 3: just say kids because they don't all kids anymore, but

798
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 3: you know, with the talent, and they talk about like

799
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 3: not posting when you're at a location, making sure you're

800
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 3: the day after or a few hours after you leave,

801
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 3: or something like that. So they've been really good at

802
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 3: helping this next generation I think, to kind of process

803
00:37:54,120 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 3: some of those things a little better, which is nice.

804
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: Now, have you you've talked about before that you have

805
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: written for a lot of great people, written some pretty

806
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: incredible songs.

807
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 2: Have you written a song for Malachi yet?

808
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 3: No, it's funny though we've actually been talking about it.

809
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 3: This is a very new conversation for us to be

810
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,720
Speaker 3: having about music. He always his entire life, he said,

811
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 3: Mom's a singer. I'm the actor, okay, and then he

812
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 3: booked Zombies and start. I was gonna say he can

813
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 3: sing a little because I take that back, right, I

814
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 3: take that back, and I can dance now, right, yeah,

815
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 3: which is like all of this is very new for him, Like, yeah,

816
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,760
Speaker 3: danced before Zombies. He never like he's.

817
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 1: Not want to dancing with the stars Malachi and dancing

818
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: with the stars stars.

819
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 3: Sure, I'm sure you know a person at the show

820
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 3: that can make that happen as soon as he's available.

821
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 3: He's just not available right now. That's exactly the point. Yes, Yeah,

822
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 3: I mean he's We've been having a lot of music

823
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 3: conversations lately because it's definitely something that he's interested in.

824
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 3: Acting is still his like number focus, but he's interested

825
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 3: and at the stage Bug from the tour, I want

826
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 3: to be the one that's like listening to the story

827
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 3: that he wants to write. About and being like, but

828
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 3: you shouldn't have never you know, you never got it

829
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 3: like that, you know, the bug from the tour he

830
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 3: loved in front of the bands and singing and warning.

831
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 3: We went to Vancouver to shoot Camp Rock three and

832
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 3: within the first I think it was the second day

833
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 3: we got there, the Joe Bros. Were in concert in

834
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,720
Speaker 3: Vancouver and we all they gave us this whole like section,

835
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 3: the whole cast and families and everything. And it was

836
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 3: literally two days after he had just performed his last

837
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 3: show on tour, and he was like he looked back

838
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 3: at me and he's like, I want to be up there.

839
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 2: I just yeah, that's cool.

840
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: Well, I can tell you we've we've seen nothing from

841
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,439
Speaker 1: Camp Rock three. We know nothing of Camp Rock three,

842
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 1: and it's already better than Camp Rock two.

843
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 2: So there you go, uh calling that right now?

844
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 3: It's really good.

845
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 2: They literally did.

846
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: This in Camp Rock two a bunch of times. So

847
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: for the record, that's all I need to see to know.

848
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 3: I need to ask if they included that they're gonna

849
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 3: lose will like that.

850
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 2: I'm out. I'm out.

851
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 1: So just very quickly, going back to your writing, what's

852
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: your favorite song that you've ever written and who.

853
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 2: Did you write it for?

854
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 3: Yeah? Okay, So I wrote a song. My favorite song.

855
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 3: This is an easy one. Well there's two. I'll tell

856
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 3: you two stories. The first one is my favorite because

857
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 3: I wrote it for Malachi, actually not for him to

858
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 3: sing he was a baby. But I wrote this song

859
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 3: called Finally, and it ended up getting cut by this artist,

860
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 3: Namie Moro in Japan. She's like the Beyonce of Japan. Okay,

861
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 3: huge artist, and it ended up being her her final record,

862
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 3: like it was her retirement. She put out like one

863
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 3: last record. The album was called Finally. It did insane numbers,

864
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 3: sold so many it was crazy, the biggest song that

865
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 3: I ever had. And also it happened to be about

866
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 3: Malachi because we did for a really long time to

867
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 3: have a kid and then finally ended up getting pregnant

868
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 3: and he was our miracle baby. And so I wrote

869
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,720
Speaker 3: the song with my friend Matt Tischla and it's called Finally.

870
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's my favorite. Wow. Second favorite is a

871
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 3: song that I wrote for Demi Levado called Nightingale. It

872
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 3: was on her debmi album, And when we were justin Vancouver,

873
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 3: I got to see Demi for a second and she

874
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 3: was meeting the cast for the first time and everything,

875
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 3: and Malachi had already gone out and he was talking

876
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 3: to her manager and he was like, oh my god, yeah,

877
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 3: my mom, she actually like wrote a song on Demi's record,

878
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 3: and she said and he was like, oh my gosh,

879
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 3: you have to tell Demi when you see her that

880
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 3: like your felicious son, blah blah blah. And so it

881
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 3: was the funny moment because I thought this would just

882
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 3: be like a little like side conversation or whatever. And

883
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 3: I'm like in the back. I try to like kind

884
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 3: of hide in the back. I don't want to be

885
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 3: like that parent. You know, Hi, it's me. So anyways,

886
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 3: we're like in this little group and all the kids

887
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 3: are saying hi to her and all the parents are there,

888
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 3: and I'm just like in the back and her manager's like, Malci,

889
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,439
Speaker 3: I tell her the story and he was like, oh,

890
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 3: and it's literally like thirty five people standing at that

891
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 3: getting back and he goes, oh, well, my mom, she

892
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 3: wrote Nightingale And she was like, oh my gosh, no way.

893
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 3: And she and I had not had a chance to

894
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 3: meet yet, and so I'm like it was like the

895
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 3: Red Sea's Parting and the parents like I'll split and

896
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 3: I'm like coming out from the background and I'm just

897
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 3: like a Hi, Demi me you so awkward. But it

898
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 3: was one of my favorite songs to write. I originally

899
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 3: wrote it for me and we pitched it to Demi

900
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 3: and she did a job on this song and really

901
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 3: made it personal for her own story too. But the

902
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 3: story for me, it was about a moment that my

903
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 3: husband and I had. I had been offered a couple

904
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 3: of deals here in la music deals and I didn't

905
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 3: know what to do. I was like just in between,

906
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,399
Speaker 3: like what's the next step for us. We were living

907
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 3: in Nashville, moving to La Possibly. We were staying on

908
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 3: a air mattress in the dining room of our friend's

909
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 3: one bedroom apartment in Santa Clarita tell me.

910
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 1: That, yes, I love everything you just said there. That

911
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: sounds magical and.

912
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 3: So literally like on this air mattress. Malachi's asleep on

913
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 3: their futon and Lauren looks at and I was like, babe,

914
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 3: I really don't know what to do. And he just

915
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 3: grabbed my hand and he was like you know what,

916
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 3: like it doesn't matter, Like whatever decision you make, it's

917
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 3: gonna it's gonna be great and just I felt in

918
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 3: that moment like I needed somebody to just be my

919
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 3: steady in that space. And the opening lyric is I

920
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 3: can't sleep tonight, wide awake and so confused. Everything's in line,

921
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 3: but I'm what I am, Bruce, I'm what's the use?

922
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 3: I can't remember now, Oh my head, it's been a minute.

923
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 3: It was like this beautiful moment that we had and

924
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 3: we shared, but then she was able to take that

925
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 3: song and make it about, you know, some really personal

926
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 3: stuff for her, which is the translation of music. You

927
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:20,439
Speaker 3: know the stars too. It's like that's how we're able

928
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 3: to be the soundtrack that expresses, you know, what the

929
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 3: dancer's vision is. Yeah, wow, I love it.

930
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 4: Oh okay Malachi, Yeah, I gotta admit I'm slightly obsessed

931
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 4: with him. He's just so cute, like watching him in

932
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 4: Zombies and then but to find out later because before

933
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 4: I had met you guys at the press junket, and

934
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 4: you know, he's he's so grown to me already, he's

935
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 4: like grown right, And then all of a sudden pops

936
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 4: up on my Disney Plus because I have Zombies going

937
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 4: some of the things he's done when he was younger,

938
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 4: so I didn't realize he was like a dizz kid

939
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 4: from what when did he enter the Disney world and

940
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 4: start blowing that whole channel up.

941
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 3: He signed his very first Disney deal on his eighth birthday,

942
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 3: eppy birthday. Literally he went to test for Stuck in

943
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 3: the Middle on his eighth birthday and signed his deal

944
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 3: on his eighth birthday. And that was his first show

945
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 3: for the network. And they have just been so good

946
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 3: to him and her family for so long. They really are,

947
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 3: They really are and have made some really fun shows

948
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 3: that he's gotten to be a part of. Stuck in

949
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 3: the Middle obviously, which was his first one, and then

950
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 3: Villain's Valley View, he did under Wraps one and two.

951
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 3: He's did Fancy Nancy, the animated series. Oh it is

952
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 3: so fun. But yeah, he's just he's been a part

953
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 3: since literally since he was eight years old. So it's

954
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 3: been fun to watch. And it's funny because some of

955
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 3: the fans who are like, you know, been a fan

956
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,320
Speaker 3: since Stuck in the Middle, and I'm like, yeah, those.

957
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, just do this location where Sabrina is watching.

958
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 3: So we ask a lot of a lot of the

959
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 3: Disney stars this question. We talk about the auditioning process

960
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 3: with Disney, so we know the actors. You know, their

961
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,479
Speaker 3: their their jitters, their nerves, their everything. If they felt

962
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 3: like they walked out, nailed the part, or I just

963
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 3: screwed that up. What is it like for a mom

964
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 3: when you're sitting in that, you know, the casting rooms

965
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 3: or the casting lobbies. I should say there are some

966
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 3: crazy moms first of all, which I'm all seen right

967
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,760
Speaker 3: Like they're the moms that are like so overly involved

968
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 3: in the process that you're just like your kid's gonna

969
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 3: hate you at eighteen, Like they're really not gonna be

970
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 3: happy with your choices, nor do they want to act anymore.

971
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:53,240
Speaker 2: Because they want to crush crushed the spirit pretty quickly.

972
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, truly, we've seen the crazy ones. We've seen the

973
00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 3: good ones. I I when we were on he was

974
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 3: auditioning before Stuck in the Middle. I think he went

975
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 3: out for an episode of Girl Meets World, okay, and

976
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 3: he was maybe six or seven at the time, and

977
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 3: he was We're in the audition room and I'll never

978
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:20,240
Speaker 3: forget this mom. She literally was like basically out loud

979
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 3: telling us about her kid's resume. And this was like

980
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 3: one of the first Disney auditions he'd ever had. I

981
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 3: just remember texting my husband, I'm.

982
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 2: Like, these people are crazy.

983
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 3: Mom is literally like out loud telling me about her

984
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 3: son's resume, Like what are we doing? You know, I

985
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 3: got trying to psych you out and trying to psych

986
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,280
Speaker 3: out your kid. Oh that's when the elbows started going,

987
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 3: oh yeah, start killing. And you know, I just want

988
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 3: to like go play rock paper Scissors in the corner

989
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 3: with Malachi and just try to keep his you know,

990
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 3: vibes good. But I think it's tough. You know, the

991
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 3: older he's gotten, the more the audition process has become

992
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 3: more intense. And it's the audition process for Zombies was

993
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 3: really really intense for him. It was quite a few months.

994
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 3: It was also the first time that he and I

995
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,720
Speaker 3: really got to work together on the music side of things.

996
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 3: I coached him through the whole process for on the

997
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 3: vocal side of stuff, and so yeah, we we it's intense.

998
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 3: But we also have always tried to go you audition

999
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 3: and then you let it go. It's the thing, and

1000
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 3: then you let it just go out there into audition

1001
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 3: land and if it's meant to be, it'll be, and

1002
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 3: try not to get so, you know, There's been a

1003
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 3: few of them where he's like, I want this, like

1004
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 3: I really Zombies was one of those.

1005
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 2: He was sure.

1006
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,720
Speaker 3: He was like I want this, I want this so bad.

1007
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 3: What do I need to do? And he just kept

1008
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 3: delivering time after time. I mean he probably he went

1009
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 3: in so many times and it was like can you sing?

1010
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 3: Can you act? Can you dance? Can you act? Can

1011
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 3: you sing? Can you dance? Wait, let's provide ourselves. Can

1012
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 3: you do? You know, so all of the things. But

1013
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 3: but yeah, it's funny sometimes the parents we just sit

1014
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 3: quietly in the audition space. Now everything's like self tapes

1015
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,760
Speaker 3: for the most part. Yeah, you really don't see anybody

1016
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 3: until you get to that testing process. But now I'm

1017
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 3: like kind of out of the picture with it.

1018
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 2: Oh wow, oh man.

1019
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 3: We just had an audition the other day and he

1020
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 3: was in Canada and it was a pretty good one.

1021
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 3: And I was like, I think I'm gonna come see

1022
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 3: you and let's just do the audition because we've always

1023
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 3: taped together. So I flew up to Canada so we can.

1024
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 2: Oh that's nice.

1025
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, what was it? What was it like?

1026
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 4: Because that's you know, at eighteen, it's it's for any mom,

1027
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 4: whether they're they're going off to start their career, like Malechi,

1028
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 4: they're going to college.

1029
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 3: Things like that.

1030
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 4: That that's when your little baby starts really leaving the nest.

1031
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 3: How how was it? Were you like trying to overpack

1032
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 3: him for going like and being away from you on set?

1033
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 3: Like how what were those feeling? I mean, I can't

1034
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:06,399
Speaker 3: I'm dying already. That Yeah, I like cried for sure.

1035
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 3: I think I even posted a picture on my Instagram

1036
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 3: like my story or something, and it was just like

1037
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 3: me and tears. And I'm not like a like let

1038
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 3: me post people or post while I'm crying kind of

1039
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 3: a person, but like it was very real. It was

1040
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 3: like the going off to college kind of feeling. And

1041
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 3: it's different. I think when you're the parent of a

1042
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:29,280
Speaker 3: creative like this, you're so involved in so many different layers.

1043
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 3: It's not just like sending him off to college and

1044
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 3: letting there be an ra there that's dealing with things

1045
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:39,240
Speaker 3: and professors. You know, you're going into a work environment

1046
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 3: where you're dealing with executives and other adults that are

1047
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 3: working and paying their bills, and like you got to

1048
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,280
Speaker 3: like show up. This isn't just you know, it's fun,

1049
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 3: and you always want it to be fun, you want

1050
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,959
Speaker 3: to love it, but also like you are. We've tried

1051
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 3: to help him remember that every show he's ever been

1052
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 3: a part of this is an adult in environment. Yeah,

1053
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 3: and you are a kid in an adult environment. So

1054
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 3: we shut it off really quickly and we go into

1055
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 3: kid mode as soon as we leave, you know, sure,

1056
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 3: but yeah, it's it's we're still so connected on like

1057
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 3: a day and a day basis. He literally called me

1058
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 3: this morning. He's texted me probably seventeen times already today

1059
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 3: this morning, and they've got table reads today for three episodes,

1060
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 3: and he's.

1061
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 2: Oh, that's great.

1062
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 3: You know, watched the pilot yesterday and he's calling me

1063
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 3: and he wants to tell me all about it. So

1064
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 3: we're still so involved on a day to day basis.

1065
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 3: But yeah, my husband and I are like learning what

1066
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,879
Speaker 3: it's like to be empty nesters. And I don't feel

1067
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 3: old enough to have that.

1068
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 2: E O. Well, I mean you should have learned it

1069
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 2: the first time when Hawkeye went out to save the world.

1070
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,720
Speaker 3: I wasn't paying attention. He was attention.

1071
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 2: Okay, So last two questions. The first one I always

1072
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 2: want to ask.

1073
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 1: This would normally be the last question, but I have

1074
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 1: a separate last question I need. So the first of

1075
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: the two last questions is what was your favorite D com.

1076
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:04,919
Speaker 2: Of all time?

1077
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 3: Oh? So good? Okay, I should know this question because,

1078
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 3: like I've listened to Malik, I answer this a thousand times.

1079
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 2: Just don't take camp rock too, and we'll be fine.

1080
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 3: My favorite D com it's probably okay, see this is

1081
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 3: it's not a d com. It's like rides the fine

1082
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 3: line of not a D com.

1083
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: Okay, which is okus, it's not okay, we just we

1084
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 1: just did hocus Pocus.

1085
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 3: Okay, it's not a com, but it's literally my favorite. Okay,

1086
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 3: I have to watch it every single year. I'm not

1087
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 3: a I'm not a rewatcher either, Like I don't rewatch

1088
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 3: a lot of movies or TV shows. I'm not like

1089
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 3: that person that watches Friends a thousand times, right, but

1090
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 3: I watch that movie every single year. So that's close.

1091
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 3: It's not a dcom, and I guess, like I have

1092
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 3: to say though at this point, Zombie's word on the

1093
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:55,439
Speaker 3: vampires done.

1094
00:52:55,480 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, there you go, And then the ask

1095
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: question other than Malachi, Yeah, your son who's the actor?

1096
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 2: And Hawkeye? Your son who's the avenger.

1097
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 3: Malachi is an avenger in the future, then I and

1098
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 3: you have.

1099
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:14,720
Speaker 2: To exactly you can't.

1100
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,240
Speaker 1: You can't be the ultimate mom of of of every

1101
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 1: amazing I mean, he's all he's already a good actor.

1102
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 2: He can't also be saving the world. I can't do.

1103
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 3: Will don't you put a ceiling over that kid?

1104
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: You if you could pick anybody, yeah, other than your

1105
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: own child to be on Dancing with the Stars.

1106
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 2: Who do you want? Who do you want to see? Dancing?

1107
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 3: Great question? Great question? Hmmm of this question, I have

1108
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 3: to like go through the uh repertoire in my head,

1109
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,720
Speaker 3: like who would I want to see? Celebrity wise?

1110
00:53:55,040 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: My god, yes, Sabrina's thinking too, that's what I want.

1111
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 3: Like, there's so many people.

1112
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 2: Who do you want to see?

1113
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 3: I mean, okay, I feel like we do the reality thing,

1114
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 3: so like I don't want to pull from reality TV,

1115
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 3: A pull from like television that way, okay, okay, okay,

1116
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 3: my childhood television. Let's go first. I would love to

1117
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,919
Speaker 3: see this is gonna be, this is not embarrassing, it's fine.

1118
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 3: I would love to see Jonathan Taylor Thomas do it. Okay,

1119
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 3: Oh my god, a dull jtt on Chancy with the

1120
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 3: Stars wall era, Right, this is our era of television.

1121
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 3: That's what I would love to see.

1122
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 2: Yes, it's a great answer.

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00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 3: We should submit that to you know who commit On Tuesday.

1124
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be like, yes, I've gotten I've gotten season covered.

1125
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: Don't from from the very little I know about how

1126
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: private he is, I would say, good luck.

1127
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 3: Well I did, I will, I will put it out there.

1128
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 4: I wasn't a giant fan of this band, but I

1129
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 4: did see one of the Hanson brothers in the audience

1130
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 4: this year.

1131
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 3: And typically when someone I don't know.

1132
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 4: If I didn't watch that episode, so I didn't know

1133
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 4: if he possibly had somebody who was like on the

1134
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,240
Speaker 4: show that he was there to support.

1135
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, but typically when random celebrities just hit the ballroom

1136
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 3: floor audience, it usually means that they have been talked

1137
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 3: to her or are interested in being on the show.

1138
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 2: Just friends. No, I know.

1139
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:44,439
Speaker 3: That's why I said I wasn't.

1140
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 4: I didn't watch the show, so I didn't know if

1141
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 4: he was there supporting someone.

1142
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 3: But I did see him one of them on there.

1143
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 3: I don't even know which one it was, but my

1144
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,479
Speaker 3: girlfriend lost her mind. She's like, he's coming he's coming

1145
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 3: next season. I bet, I bet, And I was like, amazing,

1146
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 3: that would be amazing, It would be good. I'm I'm

1147
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 3: so a huge Dodger fan.

1148
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 4: Some of them were on the show too, I know

1149
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 4: they were there now obviously like they would have to

1150
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 4: not be playing because the same thing, right, So that's

1151
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 4: why we never really have baseball players on the shows.

1152
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, during ye during the season.

1153
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 3: Right, But now that Clinton Kershaw has retired, I think

1154
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 3: that would be a great interesting.

1155
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 2: That is interesting, okay interesting.

1156
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 3: I feel like on the show in general, even retired

1157
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 3: baseball stars haven't really come. This would be a good news.

1158
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,879
Speaker 3: We did have what's his name, David Ross? He did it, yeah,

1159
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 3: because I got actually he signed a baseball for Malchi.

1160
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Well, thank you so much for taking the

1161
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 1: time to join us.

1162
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 2: You mentioned the podcasts. Are you still doing your podcast?

1163
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 3: What's it car? Yeah, Mam Drer it's yeah right. We

1164
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 3: finished last season already and we're going to be starting

1165
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 3: season two up very very soon. But my co host,

1166
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 3: Malachi is a.

1167
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: Little busy right now, so that jeez, well, if you

1168
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: need me to step in as your host, because Hawkeye

1169
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,919
Speaker 1: obviously is off with the Avengers, and your other son

1170
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 1: is doing Camp Rock.

1171
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 4: Three, which will relay Batman at some point too, so

1172
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 4: I feel like he's that's an easy fit. I'll come

1173
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 4: on more so to ask questions because my daughter is

1174
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 4: so constantly saying she wants to be a part of

1175
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 4: the industry.

1176
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 3: I love to think she's there yet.

1177
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 4: She's still very young, but and it would mean I

1178
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 4: who would be taking her to all the things.

1179
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 2: That it would be I can do that, so would be.

1180
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 4: But I would love to learn because I feel like

1181
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 4: you're doing such a great job. And what I love

1182
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,919
Speaker 4: is your You've been doing this with Malachi for years

1183
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 4: and years. He's he was eight years old, but you've

1184
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 4: also been pursuing your own career and taking your own

1185
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 4: opportunities to continue to write and beyond dancing with stars

1186
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 4: and American Idol. I mean, it's just amazing that you're

1187
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 4: a mom showing you can do it all.

1188
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 3: And I love that.

1189
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, So thank you for joining us

1190
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 2: and taking.

1191
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 3: The time to me you guys, I never one.

1192
00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 2: Go check out Mamajer, which season two will be starting soon.

1193
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you, have a great day.

1194
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 2: Bye.

1195
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 1: What a career she's had and still going yeah, I mean,

1196
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,919
Speaker 1: I know, crazy, all the stuff that's going on. I'd

1197
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 1: love to talk to him too, but I but frankly,

1198
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 1: she's so interesting that that was that was great with that,

1199
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: I know, right.

1200
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 3: But it would be awesome to know to like what

1201
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 3: he sponged off of her. I mean so much her an,

1202
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 3: it sounds like her husband too.

1203
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 2: That just sounds like they're a talented family that he.

1204
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 4: Sponged off of them to start making his decisions. And

1205
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 4: why did he originally say mom's got the music, I'm

1206
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 4: the actor?

1207
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 3: What is that? Malachi? What happened? Were you're nervous? His

1208
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 3: mom just too much of a superstar?

1209
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 1: I can understand that he found he found his comfort,

1210
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 1: and his comfort was acting, and that was, you know great. Yeah,

1211
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 1: he's right from from the jump that when you saw

1212
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: him that he was gonna be an.

1213
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 4: He's sweet in person doing the junket for Zombe, I mean,

1214
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 4: met him, very professional. Of course, the handled which I'm

1215
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 4: sure you would have caught onto. You know, obviously the

1216
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 4: relationship between him and Freya and them both just saying

1217
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 4: like we're really great friends, and you know, he was

1218
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 4: just so professional.

1219
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 3: So ready, Yeah, and yeah, what.

1220
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 4: I told you when after I did that junkie, he

1221
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 4: told me we had no dance prior dance experience, and

1222
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 4: I did not believe him.

1223
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, crazy, you're a liar.

1224
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 3: He's so good. He's so good.

1225
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,439
Speaker 1: Well, thank you everybody for joining us, and don't forget

1226
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 1: to join us next time. Over on our other feed

1227
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: where our movie is going to be. I think it's

1228
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 1: twas the.

1229
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 3: Night, Twas the Night. We're getting into that Christmas bye.

1230
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 1: Oh it's it's Christmas, okay, Oh kidding, of course.

1231
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 2: It's assuming it's Christmas. Geez.

1232
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 1: So thank you everybody for joining us, and thank you

1233
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 1: so much Felicia for joining us, especially when you've got

1234
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 1: one son making a movie and another son saving the world.

1235
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 2: So it's really really cool saving the universe.

1236
00:59:56,600 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 1: So uh yeah, always overshadowed by Malachi, but Clinton is

1237
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 1: doing pretty well in the adventures.

1238
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 2: So thank you everybody, and we'll see you next time. Bye.