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Speaker 1: So I'm very bullish on this guy. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: can't wait to watch these three guys play. Obviously CJ

428
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Speaker 1: already has built in buzz, but Anthony Richardson, I think

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Speaker 1: Colts are gonna be pretty good. I've been thinking a lot,

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Speaker 1: like what teams am I going to pick the division?

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Speaker 1: I think the Colts and the Texans are playoff teams,

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Speaker 1: and I think the Bears a little more unsure just

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Speaker 1: because the head coach. But I think their offense is

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Speaker 1: gonna have some moments even if they were to underachieve,

435
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Speaker 1: and if they play up to their capability, like they

436
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 1: can be a ten win team for sure. Like why

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Speaker 1: didn't I throw Jayden Daniels in there? Like I wonder

438
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Speaker 1: if it's gonna be a little harder transition than we think.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, I'm not anti Jayden Daniels,

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Speaker 1: but I could see, like for a lot of guys,

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Speaker 1: it's not just Rookie of the Year. I throw twenty

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Speaker 1: eight touchdowns going to a team that's pretty bad. They

443
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Speaker 1: got new coach Cliff everyone loves them. We'll see. That's

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Speaker 1: all I say is, we'll see. Drake May's not gonna play. J. J.

445
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Speaker 1: McCarthy's not gonna play. Michael Pennox isn't gonna play. So

446
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Speaker 1: a lot of these guys aren't even gonna play. So

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Speaker 1: to me, and I'm not under no circumstances what I

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Speaker 1: include Bryce under this conversation. You know, sometimes NFL teams

449
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:58,120
Speaker 1: leak things on purpose. Clearly, things get out with trays

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Speaker 1: or during the draft that you don't want to get out,

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Speaker 1: and then things leaked it like, yeah, I think we

452
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Speaker 1: want this out. When I was at the Super Bowl,

453
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Speaker 1: I went to cocktails with a buddy from the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: and we were at a bar having some drinks, just

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Speaker 1: talking everything. Well, one thing we were talking a little

456
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Speaker 1: about the game is like, you know, we really like

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Speaker 1: our chances with our DBS against Debo. Obviously Debo behind

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Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage running he's a great player, but

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Speaker 1: in terms of running routes. We don't think he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be able to get open, and what happened, Deebo couldn't

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Speaker 1: get open. And I'm not anti Debo because I was.

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Speaker 1: I've seen him play live. He is one of the

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Speaker 1: most unique players I've ever seen. I watched him carry

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Speaker 1: the Niners on his back to the playoffs in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one, and he's made huge plays over the last

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Speaker 1: couple of years. But since he got the contract, he

467
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Speaker 1: never has quite lived up to the hype. And part

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Speaker 1: of when you pay a player like you can't expect

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Speaker 1: that player to be any different than he's been. And

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Speaker 1: he was never miss Marvin Harrison runner routs. He's got

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Speaker 1: DeVante Adams. That's not his game, but because of his

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Speaker 1: coach and because of the offense, it worked. But sometimes

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Speaker 1: the last thing that happens in a sports season, like

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Speaker 1: the way you get swept in the NBA playoffs or

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Speaker 1: the way you get bounced in the NFL, or think

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Speaker 1: about the Chicago Bears, maybe their decision was already made

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Speaker 1: between before that Week seventeen game against the Packers, but

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Speaker 1: if they were even on the fence, that game was

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Speaker 1: the nail in the Coffin for Justin Fields. I do

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Speaker 1: wonder if Kyle Shanahan is just goes at the highest level,

481
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Speaker 1: because at this point in time, it's not about winning

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Speaker 1: playoff games, not about winning divisions, like trying to beat

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs, trying to beat the Ravens, trying to beat

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Speaker 1: a team that we're gonna see in the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: or the NFC Championship with an elite defense, Can this

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Speaker 1: guy get open on a corner? And the answer is not, really,

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Speaker 1: you can't. I mean it's out really is. He's always

488
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Speaker 1: had some success against Jalen Ramsey, but the Chiefs game

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Speaker 1: was pretty enlightened. And when it leaked that, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers took a receiver, took a receiver

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Speaker 1: in the first round. Could they trade Ayuk or Debo? Well,

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Speaker 1: it turns out they don't want to trade Ayuk. Obviously

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Speaker 1: they don't want to pay him as much as probably wants.

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Speaker 1: But Ayuk is a player that can translate for fifteen years,

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00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 1: runs routes, can go deep, can go short, can break tackles.

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Speaker 1: It's just a very versatile wide receiver running routes. Debo's

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Speaker 1: not really And I wonder if Kyle Shanahan was like,

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Speaker 1: I'm tired of this crap. One. He's been banged up

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Speaker 1: a lot. A couple of years ago, he wasn't in shape,

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Speaker 1: and then the biggest game like he's a non factor.

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Speaker 1: So when it leaked out the deebo Is on the

502
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Speaker 1: trade block one, they were never gonna get enough to

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Speaker 1: make it make sense to trade Debo, Like, no one's

504
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Speaker 1: offering pick twenty seven for Deebo Samuel this this draft.

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Speaker 1: But what if the forty nine ers, Kyle and John

506
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Speaker 1: wanted that out to be like, Deebo, we better fucking

507
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Speaker 1: really bring it this year, because if you don't like

508
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: all these conversations about us cutting you or just trading

509
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Speaker 1: you for not much after this year isn't fake, it's real.

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Speaker 1: Look at the books. Your salary cap hit next year

511
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Speaker 1: is like twenty eight million dollars. So I do wonder

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Speaker 1: if it was a little bit of a message, because

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Speaker 1: when you look at the logistics of the trade, they

514
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Speaker 1: would never have got enough to trade him. He still

515
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Speaker 1: has value to them, but maybe they wanted him to

516
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Speaker 1: know like, this isn't really gonna fly now. The problem

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Speaker 1: is okay, it's like run more routes in practice, that's

518
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Speaker 1: not really his thing. So I mean, they're kind of

519
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Speaker 1: in bed with this player that they had no choice

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Speaker 1: but to pay him a couple of years ago, and

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Speaker 1: they kind of got to figure it out. And I

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Speaker 1: also think that reflects why they took a route running

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Speaker 1: wide receiver with the thirty first pick in the NFL draft,

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Speaker 1: because the guy that they're paying twenty million dollars a

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00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: year doesn't really do that. And last, but not least,

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Speaker 1: Rookie Mini Camp. I remember talking to a coach four

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Speaker 1: or five years ago. He was a wide receiver coach

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Speaker 1: at the time. He's now a coordinator, and he was like,

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Speaker 1: Rookie Minniicamp was the biggest shit show I've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: No one knew what was going on. We had guys

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Speaker 1: that are not going to be in the NFL, you know,

532
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Speaker 1: playing guard and safety, and it is just a zoo.

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Speaker 1: You really are just trying to find out because you

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Speaker 1: have a lot of undrafted free agents. You have a

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Speaker 1: lot of tryout players because you got to fill the roster,

536
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Speaker 1: right no veterans are there. Well, if you only had

537
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Speaker 1: six draft picks and you only signed ten undrafted free agents,

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Speaker 1: you do the math. You can't run a practice with

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Speaker 1: sixteen people, you got to somehow find a way to

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Speaker 1: get thirty thirty five people. There just a function, and

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Speaker 1: no one knows the playbook. No one knows what's going on.

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00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: Most of these guys, especially with draft picks, have been

543
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: flying all over the country or out of shape. It's

544
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Speaker 1: kind of a useless exercise. I truly believe that beside

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Speaker 1: the metal spot keeching your young guys the playbook. But

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Speaker 1: in terms of anything to be gleaned from the field

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Speaker 1: besides just their physical size, I don't think there's much,

548
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Speaker 1: if anything. The number one takeaway I would have as

549
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Speaker 1: an executive would be does the guy look the part

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Speaker 1: one into no injuries. I don't want anyone pulling a

551
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Speaker 1: hamstring getting themselves hurt. So when we actually get the

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Speaker 1: veterans and we're running real practices, those guys aren't able

553
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Speaker 1: to go because they have a soft tissue injury. So

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Speaker 1: there is gonna be in this is the world we

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Speaker 1: live in. A ton of reporters at this thing because

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Speaker 1: it's their job to go to these mini camps, hyping

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Speaker 1: it up or down planet. Like this guy looked terribly

558
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: looks low. None of it matters. There has never been

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Speaker 1: a practice in NFL history that matters less than rookie

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Speaker 1: mini camp. It's impossible to matter less. Like you could

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Speaker 1: argue OTAs don't matter that much. They matter dramatically more

562
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Speaker 1: than this experience. Again, no one knows what's going on

563
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: beside the coaches, No one that includes your first round pick.

564
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Speaker 1: You're undrafted free agent. Head's on a swivel. It's a

565
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Speaker 1: little intimidating. It's the first time you ever put on

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Speaker 1: an NFL jersey. You're out there with you know you

567
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Speaker 1: name it, Mike Tomlin or Mike McCarthy, Kyle Shannan, Sean McVay.

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Speaker 1: It's intimidating. Spot. You're just trying to, like, not screw up.

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Speaker 1: Don't let the Internet fool you that something is dire

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Speaker 1: or something is great just because you see a post

571
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Speaker 1: over the next forty I'm not saying don't get excited,

572
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Speaker 1: but it's more than negative. Anything you read negative, do

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Speaker 1: not take seriously. Okay, Little Middlecoff Mail bagtime at John Middlecoff.

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Speaker 1: At John Middlecoff is the Instagram fire in those dms.

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Speaker 1: Get your question answered here on the show at John Middlecoff.

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Speaker 1: My name Instagram DMS. I think The big thing with

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Speaker 1: May is that he's never had a one on one

578
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Speaker 1: quarterback coach, since he's always been doing other sports and

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Speaker 1: didn't commit to being a quarterback until two years ago.

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Speaker 1: Anyone who's seen his basketball highlights, he was a Division

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Speaker 1: I basketball recruit and his brothers play basketball. A lot

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Speaker 1: of these college quarterbacks have had a quarterback coach work

583
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Speaker 1: with them on footwork since they were thirteen. Now, it's

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Speaker 1: certainly possible that when he cleans up his footwork, that

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Speaker 1: inconsistent accuracy could go away, much like it did for

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Speaker 1: Herbert and Allen, but banking on that is still a

587
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Speaker 1: big gamble. There are a lot more guys who can't

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Speaker 1: get that fixed than there are guys like Herbert and Allen.

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Speaker 1: The question now, are his bad mechanics baked in or

590
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: can he fix them with an actual NFL coach? Well,

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Speaker 1: I think this is a million dollar question. I mean,

592
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Speaker 1: this is the unanswerable question about drafts. When you get

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Speaker 1: a guy in college that has some raw tools but

594
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: needs to get fixed up fundamentally. You could argue in

595
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Speaker 1: any sport baseball, something's wrong with his swing or pitching mechanics, basketball,

596
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Speaker 1: hitching his shot. Can that be fixed or is there

597
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: a muscle memory component that can't be coached out. But

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Speaker 1: the reason these guys with elite physical attributes teams are

599
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: going to draft high Anthony Richardson a couple of years

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00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: ago at four, Drake May at three, and look who

601
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Speaker 1: wanted him, Kevin O'Connell, and day Ball as well, is

602
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: because they believe they can fix them and if they

603
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: fix them, your set. Herbert needed Herbert to me, was

604
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Speaker 1: different than Josh. If you watch Justin Herbert in college one,

605
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Speaker 1: relative to Oregon, their skill wasn't as great, coaching wasn't

606
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Speaker 1: as great. It was pretty clear like he was a

607
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: big time NFL talent. Josh's inaccuracies now who he was

608
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Speaker 1: playing with, even though I saw someone post I think

609
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: it was on Instagram. Just like an eight play Wyoming

610
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: highlight of Josh Allen. You're like, uh, yeah, so, but

611
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Speaker 1: football is less about the splash plays and more about

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Speaker 1: the layups. Right, Most of your plays in football are

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Speaker 1: hitting a quick out route, hitting a slant route on time,

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Speaker 1: hitting your check down wheel route in stride so he

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Speaker 1: can get upfield. In the difference of hitting him in

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Speaker 1: stride and him gaining seven yards on third and seven

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Speaker 1: were making him stumble behind and he gets tackled and

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Speaker 1: you don't get the first down because he only gains

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Speaker 1: three yards. So the touch on basic stuff or where

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Speaker 1: the fundamentals come in. This gets back to the best players,

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Speaker 1: the two best quarterbacks I've ever seen, right in their primes,

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Speaker 1: Brady and Manning were fundamental savants. And now granted they

623
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Speaker 1: weren't runners, so they had to be perfect fundamentally Drew Brees,

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Speaker 1: so fundamentally they worked on that twenty four to seven,

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Speaker 1: three sixty five. Aaron Rodgers got a little out of

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Speaker 1: the loop the last like year of McCarthy and that

627
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 1: first year of Lafleur, and then they kind of got

628
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Speaker 1: him back to the basics and he won back to

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Speaker 1: back MVPs with obviously added his little Aaron Rodgers flair

630
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Speaker 1: because he could move better than those guys. But I

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Speaker 1: would say, fundamentals, no matter what you play, whether it's

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Speaker 1: tennis on a volley, whether it's golf on a chip,

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Speaker 1: whether it's you know, being a great second basement on

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Speaker 1: turning two, always matter and always will. It's why the

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Speaker 1: first period of football practice after stretching is individual, meaning

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Speaker 1: the old lineman with the old lineman, Well, what are

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Speaker 1: they going over? Stance steps, d lineman get off linebacker

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Speaker 1: and dbs drop reads steps? You know, basic placement of

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Speaker 1: hands for alignemen, quarterback? What are they going over? Footwork?

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Speaker 1: Every single practice of every single you know football, every

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Speaker 1: day in football, at practice, it's the first thing you

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Speaker 1: do before you go into group and unit stuff is

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Speaker 1: individual fundamental work NFL to pee wee football, pewe football,

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Speaker 1: you might spend even more time on fundamental but college,

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Speaker 1: if you went to Nick Saban practice or you went

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Speaker 1: to a Belichick practice, the first period of practice, once

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Speaker 1: you break from stretching, is all going to look somewhat

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Speaker 1: the same. So it's very very important and how serious

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Speaker 1: you take that stuff. Like when you hear these people

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Speaker 1: talk about how serious Tom Brady and Peyton Manning took practice,

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Speaker 1: they're not just talking about team when it's eleven on eleven,

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Speaker 1: they're talking about the individual portion. Hammering home three step drop,

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Speaker 1: five step drop, seven step drop my footwork in shotgun.

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Speaker 1: So it's just like you don't even think, right, we

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Speaker 1: talk about it in the golf roll all the time.

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00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: The more you're thinking about your swing, the more often

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna play well. Tom Brady and Peyton Manning

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Speaker 1: when they ran a play never thought about their footwork.

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Speaker 1: It was ingrained the correct footwork. Obviously, sometimes you have

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Speaker 1: to add lib but like what was Peyton Manning the

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Speaker 1: best at when it came to fundamentals the stretch handoff?

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Speaker 1: He sold it where you didn't know it was going

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Speaker 1: to be a handoff or not a handoff. They did

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Speaker 1: that last year on Hard Knocks. Hackett ran that the

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Speaker 1: videos in the meeting room is this a handoff or

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Speaker 1: is this a throw? And with Aaron Rodgers you couldn't

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Speaker 1: tell to me that. I mean, that's probably what you're

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Speaker 1: talking about. But all that the fundamentals of playing the sport.

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Speaker 1: Before you can be a great player, you gotta be

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Speaker 1: good on that. You know, Patrick Mahomes gets so much

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Speaker 1: credit for being this like farving player. Do you know

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Speaker 1: how much him and Andy go over the fundamentals on

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Speaker 1: a daily basis, six months a year in practice, every

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Speaker 1: day they hammer that stuff home and rightfully so, I

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Speaker 1: wanted before I read a couple more instagrams. I've gotten some,

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Speaker 1: I've got a couple of emails that I wanted to

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Speaker 1: read just because these guys don't have Instagram. Hey John,

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Speaker 1: love the show You're inside? Okay, college football? Question here,

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Speaker 1: as the gap has never been wider in college football

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Speaker 1: between the Power five and non Power five? What are

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Speaker 1: these smaller conference conferences even playing for anymore? Between nil

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Speaker 1: deals and the portal? How can these schools even compete?

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Speaker 1: The odds have them making the playoffs are almost zero.

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Speaker 1: I got news for you. As this playoffs moves forward,

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Speaker 1: I don't think we will see non Power five teams

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Speaker 1: get in. I think they will be asked out every

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Speaker 1: single time. Wouldn't it make sense for them to get

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Speaker 1: rid of the ridiculous bull system and have them create

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Speaker 1: their own postseason tournament, kind of like the NIT The

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00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: games would mean more and they could crown a quote

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Speaker 1: unquote champion in the end. It would give more meaning

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Speaker 1: to their season instead of playing in the Potato Bowl.

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Speaker 1: We'd love to hear your thoughts. Well, I don't think

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Speaker 1: we're far away from just seeing the big Power five

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Speaker 1: be a group of fifty teams and them just compete

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Speaker 1: to get to the pl You either make the playoffs

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Speaker 1: or you're done. I think we are because the balls

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Speaker 1: are still going to exist even with the twelve team

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Speaker 1: playoffs like the random potato bulls. But I think within

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Speaker 1: the next five years, I mean, things are moving at

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Speaker 1: rapid speed. Now in college sports, we will see the

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Speaker 1: big boys, the top fifty schools. However, I think it'll

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Speaker 1: inevitably be like the AFC NFC, the equivalent in Power five,

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Speaker 1: like the Big ten SEC. Right, Notre Dame goes to

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Speaker 1: the Big ten Florida State, Clemson, and these teams just

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Speaker 1: kind of go to either conference, the ones that survive,

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Speaker 1: and then the non Power fives. I love that idea

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Speaker 1: because once they do this, once they've gone to twelve teams,

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00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: and this is the hard part because they don't have

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Speaker 1: a commissioner. They don't have like a tzar of football.

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Speaker 1: You should not be allowed like USC should not be

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Speaker 1: allowed to play Fresno State or San Diego State. You're

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Speaker 1: non conference. The same thing Alabama. You should only be

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Speaker 1: able to play other Power five teams. Now you can

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Speaker 1: play a quote unquote crappier Power five team if instead

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Speaker 1: of playing Alabama not you want to play Mississippi State,

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Speaker 1: if you're USC or Kansas State or whoever, you don't

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Speaker 1: have to play Oklahoma. But you should only be able

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Speaker 1: to play each other. Can you imagine in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: it's like it's weak two and the Niners are playing

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Speaker 1: the Memphis Stampede of the UFL, Like what is going on?

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Speaker 1: I think it's somewhat similar. Now, if you're Fresno State,

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Speaker 1: you want to play USC and Oregon because you get paid.

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Speaker 1: But that shouldn't be allowed anymore. And I think if

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Speaker 1: I was a betting man, that will inevitably happen, and

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Speaker 1: when it does, those teams one hundred percent should all

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Speaker 1: the non Power five teams should all play each other.

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Speaker 1: And I love this idea. I hadn't thought of like

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Speaker 1: a tournament, but D one listen I started. I went

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Speaker 1: to cal Poly D one double A. They have playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Sixteen teams make it and there's a bracket and you

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Speaker 1: crown champion. It's usually North Dakota State, Montana or South

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Speaker 1: Dakota State. That's what I would do. So I think

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Speaker 1: you're one hundred percent onto something there. I wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: shocked if that inevitably happens in some form or fashion

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Speaker 1: close to what you were saying. This is a email

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Speaker 1: I got, but it was directed from LinkedIn. I have

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Speaker 1: a LinkedIn page, by the way, go follow it. Just

739
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 1: because I post some stuff. Huge fan, not because I

740
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: need to read my resume. Huge fan of the pod.

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Speaker 1: My two biggest passions are sports and marketing. Would love

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Speaker 1: to chat overcall some ideas. A couple of examples of

743
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 1: content to rap about if you ever find yourself struggling

744
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: to fill the air. This guy's filling my show. The

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00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 1: NFL dominates because it's the most relatable sport to humans

746
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: and is solely driven by production and conducted like many

747
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 1: companies we all work for, so it's relatable. With this

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Speaker 1: in mind, football fans want to be as close to

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Speaker 1: the product as possible, which is the best problem to

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Speaker 1: have in business. The draft dominates. Why not add an

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Speaker 1: eighth round, but with a nod to fantasy football it's

752
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: randomized snake draft and the order isn't known until ten

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Speaker 1: minutes before the round starts. Would add some intrigue to

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Speaker 1: the late round mostly undrafted free agent picks. Kind of

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00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 1: like that idea. Ability to pick a quarterback as a

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Speaker 1: camera view from Sunday Ticket so you can stream your

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00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: favorite quarterback and watch the game through his helmet camp

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00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: with the sound maybe VR. The ability to trade franchise

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Speaker 1: tags yearlyes I e the forty nine Ers trade their

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00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five franchise tag to the Colts for a

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Speaker 1: second round pick. Colts then could franchise Pat McAfee and

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Speaker 1: Peyton Manning in twenty five as an example, would give

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00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,240
Speaker 1: them like through McAfee and Manning would give teams control.

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Speaker 1: Don't hate that idea. Don't hate that idea at all.

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Speaker 1: If you're not using your franchise tag, you can trade

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Speaker 1: it to another team that can then franchise tag multiple people.

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Speaker 1: I would say, would anyone give up a one for

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Speaker 1: the right? I think teams would give a second round

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Speaker 1: pick if they wanted a franchise tag two guys. That

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00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: was a good, little, uh little thought nugget there. Can

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Speaker 1: you please explain to me, as a Niners fan, how

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Speaker 1: we're supposed to feel excited about this? When do we

773
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: fix the offensive line? Where do you get the money

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00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: to pay these not on the roster replacements? When you

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00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 1: pay a yuke and party let Trent leave sign three

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Speaker 1: different ones? Please help me understand this wacky draft strategy.

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Speaker 1: What's the path forward for offensive line on this already

778
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Speaker 1: less than stellar group. Well, they did draft an interior

779
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: offensive lineman from Kansas they can play guard or center.

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00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: They've invested in Aaron Banks, he's got to be a starter.

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Speaker 1: They invested a fourth rounder in Burford. He's not very good.

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00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: But historically you've been able to find functional guards and

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00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: centers late in the draft and during the waiver claim period.

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Speaker 1: Tackles a different beast. I can't fault them for not

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Speaker 1: drafting a tackle at pick thirty one if they didn't

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Speaker 1: think there was a guy good enough to draft in

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Speaker 1: that spot. And I'm pretty sure an offensive tackle didn't

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Speaker 1: go in the next several spots. It was like wide

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00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: receivers and defensive linemen and corners. So just because you

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Speaker 1: need a Trent replacement, they do. Because he's thirty five,

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00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 1: thirty six years old, he's not going to play forever. One.

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00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 1: There's no replacing him. They will never have a better

793
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Speaker 1: tackle than Trent Williams unless one year they absolutely suck

794
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Speaker 1: and get the number one pick. And there's Jonathan Ogden

795
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: in the draft two point zero. So there's gonna be

796
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 1: a downgrade when Trent leaves. But you can't force fill

797
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: that spot. That's bad business because if you force a need.

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Speaker 1: And here's the other thing they lost to the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl because they couldn't block Chris Jones. True, their offensive

800
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: line on an individual basis is not great. They had

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00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: the lead in the Super Bowl, so their ability as

802
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: a coaching staff and as an offense to coach around

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00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 1: one high offensive lineman and a bunch of randos has

804
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: proven to be pretty good. Hell, they got Mike McGlinchey

805
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: fifty million dollars guaranteed. Like, I would say I would

806
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 1: trust their ability to coach these guys up at that position.

807
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 1: If their offensive line was the reason they were winning

808
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: eight or nine games, I'd be like, we got a problem. Boys.

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00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: These had the number one seed in the NFC and

810
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: went toe to toe with the Chiefs. Now their downfall

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Speaker 1: was they couldn't block Chris Jones. I got news for you.

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Speaker 1: Most people can't, So I hear you. But I think

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Speaker 1: it's easy to just say that. Then in reality, like

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it should they have traded up

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Speaker 1: in the second round to get a guy, Well, what's

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Speaker 1: the hit rate on that you think you're just gonna

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Speaker 1: find like Lane Johnson? You know, I mean sometimes you

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00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 1: gotta get a little lucky. Maybe in one of your

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00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 1: mid round picks becomes a five year starter. They found

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00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: Lake and Tomlinson years ago, and he became a really

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Speaker 1: good play for them, and then getting a bunch of

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Speaker 1: money from the Jets. So you got to make those

823
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: moves now at tackle, that's not going to happen, and

824
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: they have a weakness of tackle. Their right tackle is

825
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: not very good relative to the league. Luckily Trent is

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Speaker 1: and you just run to his side. The problem is

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Speaker 1: he gets hurt, then you're in a pinch. Big fan

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Speaker 1: of the show. People loved to debate whether the top

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Speaker 1: college football teams could beat some of the worst NFL teams,

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Speaker 1: which I don't think would ever be possible. But what

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Speaker 1: if one of the great college football teams played a

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Speaker 1: UFL team. I haven't watched any UFL, but I'm curious

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Speaker 1: about the level of talent that's in that league. Well,

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Speaker 1: I haven't watched a snap either, but my guess would

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Speaker 1: be let's use an example. Georgia a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 1: the team with eight million pros, I think they had

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Speaker 1: a ton that were like top fifty picks, would beat

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Speaker 1: any team in the UFL. Michigan, they just had thirteen

839
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Speaker 1: guys drafted and probably another four or five signed undrafted

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Speaker 1: free agents. Would beat every team in the UFL because

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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy's a better quarterback than all those guys, and

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00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: they have six ' seven NFL linemen. The UFL does

843
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: not have six to seven NFL linemen, like most of

844
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Speaker 1: the guys in the UFL are not NFL players. So

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Speaker 1: I think it is fair to say that the top

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Speaker 1: teams in college football would beat UFL teams. Now, if

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Speaker 1: you just get like, could San Diego State or could

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00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: you know Arizona State? Yeah, I don't. I have no clue.

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Speaker 1: I would guess not, but who knows. But like Bama, Georgia, LSU,

850
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: Ohio State, Michigan, Oregon, would they beat them? I would.

851
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 1: My first reaction is yes, again zero snaps of the

852
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 1: UFL minor league football is not for me. Big fan

853
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: of the POD and hearing from your perspective, if the

854
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: Dolphins don't pay Tua, does taking a quarterback like Pennix

855
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: who is similar to what they already have. Both are

856
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: left handed so this was before or do they go

857
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: with someone like Joe Milton. Here's the thing. I think

858
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 1: you cannot pay Tua and not drafting a quarterback high

859
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: is also a smart move. I do not expect them.

860
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 1: Let me rephrase that. I don't think they need to

861
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: now that. That doesn't mean they're not going to. But I

862
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: do think the proper business decision would just be to

863
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,919
Speaker 1: play it out and two a nose. Two is showing

864
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: up to the offseason because he knows, like, what if

865
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: I really earned I'm a good NFL player, I'm gonna

866
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: have a job as an NFL started for a while.

867
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: If they don't want me, someone else will pay me.

868
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 1: But I do think it's fair for the Dolphins to go.

869
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: Is he worth investing this much in? When you see

870
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: these companies like in Fortune five hundred stock Market World

871
00:49:56,400 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: merge or pay for someone, they go, this company is

872
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: worth two billion dollars to us because we think that

873
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 1: in the next five years it'll ten ex us or

874
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 1: five ex us or generate x number worth of ROI

875
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: over a period of time. I think you have to

876
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 1: look like that with a quarterback. Can we do better?

877
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,879
Speaker 1: Is this the best we can do if we get

878
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 1: rid of this guy? Could we upgrade if we do

879
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 1: pay him and it limits our budget, is it worth it?

880
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: Is he good enough to beat the guys we have

881
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: to beat. I think there are a lot of variables

882
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: that you could ask yourself. That's why I get back

883
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: to Dak. To me, they've paid Dak and they haven't

884
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: been able to get over the hump. And a large

885
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 1: reason is because Dak has underwhelmed in the playoffs when

886
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 1: you need him to play his best, and that's what

887
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,240
Speaker 1: you're paying him for. He's a really good, excellent regular

888
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: season quarterback, going to Pro Bowls, putting up good numbers.

889
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: He's a winning player, but there's a difference between a

890
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: winning regular season player and a winning playoff player. Like

891
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,879
Speaker 1: I even think Lamar took a little step this year.

892
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: You feel better about him in the playoffs, but like

893
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: now it's time to go. If you ever want to

894
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl, you're gonna have to go to

895
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: that legendary spot where it's like you have a flawless

896
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: game against a couple of elite opponents. We know you

897
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 1: can do it in the regular season. I watched you

898
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: do it this year running circles around all these teams.

899
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: You guys are blowing everybody out. What happens when we

900
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: get into a playoff game against Patrick Mahomes or Josh

901
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: Allen or Joe Burrow and it's a tight game in

902
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: the second half. Can you still play at that elite level.

903
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: We've already paid you, You're already worth it to us.

904
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: But now our next goal is to win the Super Bowl.

905
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: Like the Dolphins goal now is to win a playoff game.

906
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: And I think it's fair to ask is to good

907
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: enough to win a playoff game? And you could argue

908
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 1: in the AFC, I don't know, think about like the

909
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 1: potential first round matchups Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes,

910
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: c J. Stroud, Harbaugh and Herber, You're not gonna have

911
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: the best quarterback in any of these games. Question from Minnesota.

912
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 1: How do you see JJ's rookie year going start Week one,

913
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: start by Thanksgiving, sit out the year? Would love to

914
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 1: hear your take observation. In Russell Wilson's final year with Seattle,

915
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 1: he was seen sitting next to Goodell many times on

916
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 1: TV during the Super Bowl. I feel like he was

917
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 1: positioning himself to be the next commissioner. Obviously, his chances

918
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: of that may be gone, but I believe that his angle,

919
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: given his positive and PC persona. Do you think there's

920
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 1: any truth to that take for Russell Wilson to even

921
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: have a slimmer of hope to be the next commissioner.

922
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 1: And again, I've never even seen that or heard that

923
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: or thought that he would have to go work for

924
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 1: the League office for a long time and get in

925
00:52:54,400 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 1: with the NFL owners. The only commissioners in sports Manfred

926
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: worked for baseball when Sea League got out. Adam Silver

927
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: was David Searn's right hand guy. Roger Goodell worked for

928
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:13,240
Speaker 1: the league for thirty years or twenty years or whatever.

929
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: Since they're mid it early eighties, these leagues do not

930
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:22,439
Speaker 1: hire people that aren't league employees and that don't know

931
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: the dirt of the NFL. They're not hiring outside CEOs.

932
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: This isn't corporate America here. They only hire from within.

933
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 1: And I don't blame him, so I would say he

934
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: has no chance unless he's willing to go work for

935
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: the League office for fifteen plus years. And then, yeah,

936
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 1: who knows the JJ things tough. I don't think he

937
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,399
Speaker 1: could beat out Sam Donald in training camp. So Sam

938
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: Donald beats him out. I think then it's all predicated

939
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 1: on wins and losses. Usually these guys come in when

940
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 1: the team's not doing well. Think about Lamar came in

941
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 1: because the Ravens were playing well, Flacco looks shot. Mahomes

942
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: never did why because they were like eleven twelve win

943
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: team with Alex Smith. So to me, it's all based

944
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: on Sam Donald, who to me is a wild card.

945
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 1: If you tell me Sam sucks and they're one and four,

946
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: I'd believe you. If you tell me Sam solid and

947
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: their team's good and they're five and five and they

948
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 1: just keep rolling with them, I'd believe you too. So

949
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 1: I think he's the hardest, like Drake May's gonna play

950
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: this year. Why the Patriots aren't gonna be that good

951
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 1: and Jacoby's not good enough, and so you just factor

952
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: in they're much more likely to be two and six

953
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 1: Minnesota could be. But I also could see a situation

954
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 1: where they're just competitive. The talent around them on offense,

955
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: offensive play callers, their head coach. He's proven to be

956
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 1: a good head coach. Hell, he was competitive with random

957
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: quarterbacks last year. So I'd be guessing my guess as

958
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: he plays. I would say later than sooner, though, because

959
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 1: I think they'll be competitive early and if some if somehow,

960
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 1: Donald's just god awful he looks like the Jets Panthers guy,

961
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: then you'll see him before Thanksgiving, because that's the way

962
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: the NFL works, because the fans have a lot of juice.

963
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: Because the fans would be like, we'll start booing calling

964
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: into sports talk radio and be like, oh, why does

965
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: that matter because that's where the owner listens, and the

966
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: owner is not going to go we just drafted this

967
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: guy in the first round. To just watch Sam Darnold.

968
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:27,280
Speaker 1: So if you start slow, the rookie plays rinse, wash, repeat.

969
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,439
Speaker 1: That's just how it happens. If you're in the mix

970
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 1: and you have a even a bridge quarterback, that guy

971
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: will play. Question for the bag, would you consider doing

972
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: a statement on today in NFL history? It could revolve

973
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 1: around big plays or games, controversies, contracts, or just simple

974
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: facts about coaches, players being fired or released. It would

975
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,240
Speaker 1: be cool for folks not as well versed in sports

976
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 1: history to get a window into the past. Thanks for

977
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 1: the content. As a military offer officer, I look forward

978
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 1: to listening on the commute every day. We appreciate your service. Uh,

979
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: that's it's probably not really my jam, to be honest

980
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 1: with you. Not really something that excites me. Obviously, during

981
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: the offseason, like May this day in NFL history, people

982
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 1: took the day off during the season. I guess it

983
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 1: would have more relevancy, but there's just so much stuff

984
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: going on. I just long way of saying, it's probably

985
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 1: not gonna happen. This isn't history, Pod, But again, appreciate

986
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 1: your service. Why don't you think Belichick's assistants have been

987
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 1: successful coaches? With a highly successful team like the Pats,

988
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,800
Speaker 1: you would imagine that there would be many successful future

989
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: head coaches on the staff. Then you have a team

990
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 1: like the twelve Redskins who played one game in the

991
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: playoffs and lost, but under Mike Shanahan, the Redskins had

992
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: five NFL head coaches, Kyle McVeigh, Lafleur, McDaniels, and Raheem Morris.

993
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 1: With that much star power on the coaching staff, you

994
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 1: would imagine that teams would be playing for Super Bowls. Well,

995
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 1: their team wasn't as good, right If you gave that

996
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 1: staff Brady Gronk, Edelman, mccordy, high towered all those guys,

997
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 1: they would have been a lot better. So you do like,

998
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,280
Speaker 1: this is professional sports. You do need talent on the squad.

999
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: I would also say that's somewhat of a unique situation.

1000
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 1: Sean mcvay's what thirty seven, thirty eight years old? Well,

1001
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 1: in twenty twelve he was twenty seven, Kyle was in

1002
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 1: his early thirties. Mike McDaniel was probably thirty years old. Max.

1003
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: So the guys you see now are much different coaches

1004
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: than you saw then. And I would imagine Kyle would say,

1005
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: I became a much better coach when I left my dad,

1006
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: when I went to Cleveland for a year, then I

1007
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: went and worked with Matt Ryan. It's like any young

1008
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: person in the industry, you kind of grow with time.

1009
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: You hone onto your skills. Think about Sean McVay, he

1010
00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: was like a position coach, then coaching tight ends. Four

1011
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: or five years later, Jay Gruden comes on. He got

1012
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,959
Speaker 1: to call the offense, so he got to learn by doing.

1013
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: That's what we say at cut Pauly, and that helps

1014
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: you become better at your craft. So would Sean McVay

1015
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: have been as good of a coach with the Rams

1016
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen and eighteen if Jay Gruden never let

1017
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 1: him call plays? Probably not. So I think it's easy

1018
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 1: to say this group of guys were all there together.

1019
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 1: Ultimately Mike was the boss, and who your head coaches

1020
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 1: matters a lot, and their quarterback ended up getting hurt. Right,

1021
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: if RG three hadn't got hurt his rookie season and

1022
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: they just would have had that level of athlete and

1023
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: player for a couple of years, I think they would

1024
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: have been more competitive. But I think they win a super Bowl?

1025
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: Probably not, but could they have made the playoffs several

1026
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 1: years in a row one. But I also think you know,

1027
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 1: if you just look at any successful person that's under

1028
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: forty five in twenty twenty four, if you looked at

1029
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: them in twenty twelve, they wouldn't be that same person.

1030
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: They might have been a guy that most people thought, like,

1031
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 1: this guy's never gonna make it, this guy's got no shot.

1032
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: I don't care what business you're in. So I think

1033
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 1: he got a factor in time, different experiences. I mean

1034
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 1: a lot of them bounced around, went to different places,

1035
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: learned from different people, and just improved on their craft.

1036
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 1: So it's not like a player where it's like, yeah,

1037
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: he's kind of ready to win right now. It's like

1038
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: usually coaches get better with time. Look at Andy Reid

1039
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 1: when three of five Super bowls over sixty years old,

1040
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 1: started coaching when he was like as a head coach

1041
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety nine. Now they had a lot of

1042
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 1: success in Philly. But I think he'd be at first

1043
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 1: tell you I'm a way better coach now than I

1044
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 1: was in two thousand and four. So I think it's

1045
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: easy to play that game. And that graphic is so

1046
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 1: famous because mainly the three headed monster of you know,

1047
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 1: Laflores had a bunch of success with Rogers and now

1048
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: Jordan Love, Sean McVay crushed at one super Bowl, and

1049
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: Kyle's been winning pretty consistently now for five years. I

1050
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: just think you look at if you look at me

1051
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 1: in twenty twelve, or I looked at you in twenty twelve,

1052
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: whatever you're doing now, you know, it's like, what, how'd

1053
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 1: you end up there? I think I think that happens

1054
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 1: a lot. There's a lot of twenty five year olds

1055
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: right now struggling twenty eight year olds, thirty year olds.

1056
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 1: We're in twelve years, you're going to be in a

1057
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 1: dramatically better spot. You'll be better at what you do,

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Speaker 1: You'll have gone through experiences. I was just talking to

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Speaker 1: my girlfriend about this because she's going through some business stuff,

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Speaker 1: and no, I would say learning hard lessons is one

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01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 1: way to say it, But I just say, learning good

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01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 1: lessons the faster you learn, whatever industry you're in, Like, yeah,

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01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 1: it's kind of cutthroat. Whoever you're dealing with first and

1064
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 1: foremost is going to care about themselves and their family

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01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 1: more than yours and quote unquote trying to screw you.

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01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: Get over on you. Fuck you however you look at.

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01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 1: I don't mean sexually, I mean like financially, you just

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Speaker 1: those are good lessons to learn, and they make you

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01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 1: better with time to realize, like to become numb to

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01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 1: certain stuff, to know what to look for. They harden you,

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Speaker 1: whether you're a coach, whether you're a salesman, whether you're

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Speaker 1: doing whatever. So the more experiences like pro sports, you

1073
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 1: have a short window to maximize. For most of us

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01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 1: in all the industries where you work in, we should

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Speaker 1: be this and coaching falls into this too. You should

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01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 1: be dramatically better at forty than you were at twenty

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01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 1: seven or fifty than you were at thirty five, because

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01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 1: you just know more, You've seen more, You've had more experiences,

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01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 1: good and bad, and bad experiences make you better. So

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Speaker 1: I bet Kyle learned more about himself the next couple

1081
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Speaker 1: of years when they were crappy than he did the

1082
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 1: one year with rg III. You never run that offense.

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Speaker 1: But again he did it for a split second. With Trey.

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Speaker 1: Lancey hated it. He's like, I hate this crap. This

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Speaker 1: is not what I do. You know, So I just

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01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 1: think time none of those guys. If we would have

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Speaker 1: made all five of those guys and we'll see about

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Speaker 1: Raheem in Atlanta, but the other four head coaches in

1089
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen after the two, I bet a lot of

1090
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 1: them would have crashed and burned. And I bet they

1091
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 1: would all say that, like, yeah, I wasn't ready, no chance.

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Speaker 1: I would have been overwhelmed. But when they got their

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01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 1: chances in twenty seventeen or twenty nineteen or twenty twenty

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01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 1: one or whatever year, they got them right Laflora a

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01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 1: little later, McDaniels a couple of years ago, Kyle and

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01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 1: Sean in twenty seventeen. Raheem Morris didn't get his till

1097
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, and they'd say, I'm much more equipped

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01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 1: now of going through it all you should want. It

1099
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 1: sucks at the time, but professional struggles, I would say,

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01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 1: are what make you or give you the ability for

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01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 1: future success professional success. I mean it doesn't teach you

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Speaker 1: that much. I'm not saying you can't learn from when

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Speaker 1: you're being successful of what works double down, like obviously,

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01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 1: but when things are not going well and there aren't

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01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 1: really answers, you kind of got to look at yourself

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01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 1: in the mirror and like, we got to figure this out.

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Speaker 1: And then you look back a year later and like,

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Speaker 1: I figured it out. That wasn't that hard, or God,

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Speaker 1: that was that last year. I really changed a lot.

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Speaker 1: I can't do that anymore. I need to do more

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Speaker 1: of this and less of that. So I hear what

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Speaker 1: you're saying. And that picture is gonna be I would say,

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Speaker 1: put up on television screens during football season, probably forever.

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Speaker 1: I mean, in perpetuity to the day I die. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that picture is never going away, even when those guys

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Speaker 1: are retired. But I think it's easy to play that game,

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Speaker 1: and I don't necessarily think it's fair. The volume