WEBVTT - One in 200 million 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:04.200 A group of high school students. 0:00:04.280 --> 0:00:07.400 High school students Elizabeth and high school students started a 0:00:07.440 --> 0:00:10.720 project to research a string of unsolved murders. 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:13.960 Their research led to the identification. 0:00:13.360 --> 0:00:14.080 Of the killer. 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:17.120 Investigators now have an answer to a thirty four year 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:17.880 old question. 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:21.919 Once you start getting a few tips, or a few leads, 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:26.599 or few identifications, then the cold case isn't so cold anymore. 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:30.760 There's a pretty good chance he's still alive. Everything that 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:33.960 the students predicted through their profile turned out to be accurate. 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:39.960 Redhead Killer profile mail Caucasian, five nine six, two hundred 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:43.360 and seventy pounds, unstable home, absent father, and a domineering mother, 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:47.160 right handed, IQ above one hundred, most likely heterosexual. 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:51.239 There is no profile of this killer except for the 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:52.519 ones the students created. 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:55.080 Just because some of these women no longer have people 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:56.880 to speak for them does not mean that they deserve 0:00:56.960 --> 0:00:57.400 to not. 0:00:57.400 --> 0:00:58.080 Be so anymore. 0:00:58.240 --> 0:00:59.840 What if this guy's still alive? Like, what if you 0:00:59.840 --> 0:01:00.920 came after us? 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:02.080 I consider it gonna kill me. 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:07.160 Who A Yeah, this. 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:12.520 Is Murder one oh one, Season one, episode one one 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:20.560 and two hundred million. I'm Jeff Shane, a television and 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:25.120 podcast producer at KT Studios with Stephanie Leidecker, Courtney Armstrong, 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:28.560 and Andrew Arno. In twenty twenty, I came across a 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:31.080 story about a group of high school students who set 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:34.560 out to investigate a series of unsolved murders in their community. 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:38.479 It was an incredible story that here at KT Studios 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:40.400 we felt needed to be explored further. 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:46.880 Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Is my privilege and honor 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:49.640 to welcome you to our past conference. Now I'm a 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:52.680 part of Michigan Campbell's sociology class. Many of you or 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:56.320 today are asking the same question, why are we here? 0:01:57.000 --> 0:01:59.920 It starts thirty seven years ago when a man murdered 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:03.360 unknown woman and laid her body decide in any state. 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:06.720 Four years later, five more women. She had the same 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:10.840 faith those women would be founded along in the states 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:14.720 and the highways across multiple states. The cases became cold 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:18.040 till a few people ask why hasn't the murderer in 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:18.480 the day. 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:18.760 Fact. 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:22.560 The older I get, the more I think about all 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:25.560 the bad things that could happen, you know, But young 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:27.880 people never think about that. They're just like, yeah, let's 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:30.360 do it, you know. And I love that attitude about him. 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:32.040 You know he let's find a serial killer, and I like, Yeah, 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:35.720 let's do it. My name is Alex Campbell. I am 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:40.320 forty four years old. I live in Hampton, Tennessee, but 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:43.720 I work in elizabeth In, Tennessee et elizabeth In High School. 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:47.119 I'm a teacher for going on twenty one years. 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:50.760 I do not like teaching. I love teaching. 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:54.800 It is the greatest job in the world. I have 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:59.480 been described by some as a very intense person. No 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:01.600 matter what I'm if you're going to give up hours 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:03.640 of your life to do it, either, I want to 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:06.040 do it really hard, as good as I can. 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:06.639 Right. 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:08.359 If it's not that important, I just won't do it. 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:10.320 And I think teaching is important and I love it, 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:12.040 so I give a lot of time to it. I 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:14.400 also think eating is important and I love it, and 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:15.760 I give a lot of time to it. And I 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:17.040 don't play around when I'm eating. 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:17.560 It's serious. 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:22.320 With a population of around fourteen thousand people, elizabeth In, 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:25.200 Tennessee sits on the eastern side of the state ordering 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:28.840 North Carolina. The people who call Elizabethan home have nothing 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:30.720 but good things to say about their mountain town. 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:35.000 We're a small town. We're all kind of like family. 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:37.720 Everybody knows each other. You kind of know where everything 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:39.160 is and you can't really get lost. 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:41.480 A lot of people when I tell them I'm from Tennessee, 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:43.520 they always say, oh, I live in Nashville, or I've 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:46.440 been to Memphis, But those places are very different. We're 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:48.800 in the kind of the mountainous region in the northeast, 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:51.280 and it's a little different than the rest of the state. 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:54.840 It's your typical small town, small town field. 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:59.040 It is very very small. Our downtown looks like something 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:02.720 out of a Hallmark. We are close to the Appalachian Trail. 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:07.480 We have lots of beautiful lakes, lots of outdoor recreation. 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:10.600 Hiking, camping. It's a wonderful place. You have a lot 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:11.480 of great neighbors. 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:12.800 There's a lot of community here. 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:15.240 Feel We have one city school they go to, so 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:17.360 I think it's like nine hundred and something kids, and there's. 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:19.880 A lot of community pride. The high school is a 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:21.200 focal point for the community. 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:23.719 You know, think kind of the throwback to Friday Night 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:27.400 at football games and just since of school and community pride. 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:30.640 Great Our football team has won two of the last 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:33.080 four state titles and played in another in a third 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:34.799 one in the last four years. 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:36.400 Very safe, very safe. 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:37.440 Yes, even in. 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:40.200 A beautiful place like this, there are lots of secrets 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:43.920 locked up in these mountains. That murder of Cynthia Taylor 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:49.039 really cast a shadow over a place like this. Cynthia 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:52.120 Taylor was a sixteen year old girl who was from 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:55.000 our county here. She went to a local high school. 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:58.320 I think, from what we understand, there was some rebelliousness, 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:02.520 spend nights, weekends, days at a time with friends, and 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:05.080 probably bullied in school as far as we can tell. 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:09.599 I actually saw report from the school counselor and she'd 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:10.680 probably really. 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:12.280 Kind of stopped going to school. 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:17.360 So you have a young, vulnerable girl, redheaded from East 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:21.359 Tennessee going through a tough time. She was stabbed. She 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:24.599 was stabbed four times. Her body was found in southern road. 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:29.599 You know, my whole life. People's people have talked about it. 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:31.320 We have a lot of back roads, country roads here 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:33.080 and people get out and right around and when you 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:35.080 drive down roy and Creek where her body was found, 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:36.800 people know the spot will point over there and say, yeah, 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:39.320 that's where they found her body. And it's a it's 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:40.520 a it's a well known story. 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:46.520 Most homicides in our area are usually domestic or family, 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:49.520 so for it to be more of the serial murder 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:51.239 that is like unheard up here. 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:57.040 This is kind of wives tale. My wife's grandmother or 0:05:57.160 --> 0:05:59.279 great ant or something lived down below it, and she 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:01.920 swore later in life that she heard screamed from up 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:04.400 that behind her house, up towards that house where they 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:06.960 think that Cindy was murdered at She swore she thought 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:08.000 she heard screaming that night. 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:11.200 I think that goes to say that there's evil everywhere. 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:15.560 I found out that a redheaded girl being killed in 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:19.440 the eighties beside a road in Tennessee was not uncommon. 0:06:19.640 --> 0:06:22.320 I kept noticing these redhead murderers and all the unsolved 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:25.480 murders and Jane Do's. I didn't really understand how just 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:29.240 this one unsolved murder would actually lead to so much 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:34.320 more ugliness here in my state and surrounding states. 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:39.480 Her murder was just one and a string of killings 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:42.719 later known as the redhead Murder, the red Headed. 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:46.400 Murder, redhead murders, a string of similar looking women dumped 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:49.560 along the sides of major interstates. Half a dozen red 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:52.479 headed women dumped along the sides of interstates across the 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:53.880 country in the nineteen eighties. 0:06:57.200 --> 0:07:01.320 They had never been any consensus on if all of 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:06.240 these murders were related or if just many redheaded women 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:08.679 over a ten year period were found in and around 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:12.040 Tennessee and it was because of different killers what they 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:15.160 call one off murders. So I just really became intrigued 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:17.600 by it, and I felt like that the next semester 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:21.440 that would be the project that maybe we could work on. 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:23.720 Fan But for the last several years I been a 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:24.520 true crime fan. 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:26.600 I blame that on my wife. 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:29.680 She really got me into the genre in forty eight 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:33.080 Hours and Dateline and all that, and I really really 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:37.120 liked it. And I just noticed that in my sociology class, 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:40.040 if we ever talked about you know, serial killer or 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:43.680 you know, psychopath, like, students just were mesmerized. They just 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:45.680 paid more attention and they were so interested and they 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:48.080 wanted to learn. And of course, you know, true crimes 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:50.840 like what the second biggest genre in America or something, 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:52.680 and so it does. It attracts a lot of people, 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:55.080 and you know, they're not going to work hard if 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:55.960 they're not invested. 0:07:57.080 --> 0:07:59.679 I was a freshman at the time in high school 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:03.320 and I was still like very new. I was very shy, 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:05.200 like I didn't have a lot of experience doing like 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:06.080 much of anything. 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:08.840 Lane Leonard was just a freshman when he joined mister 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:10.480 Campbell's sociology class. 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:12.720 All I knew was I was going to sign up 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:15.280 for a sociology class, and my mom told me that 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:18.840 sociology was fund for her in college and then I 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:19.480 should try to. 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:22.840 Husch Junior Will Bauers was an outgoing jock who took 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:23.640 the class on a whim. 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:28.040 I was seventeen. Technically the class was a sociology class, 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:32.920 so we didn't even know exactly what we're going into. 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:35.600 And at first I thought like he had like came 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:38.000 up with this scenario, like made all the details up, 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:40.480 and I was like, Oh, that's that's kind of cool. 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:41.920 You know, it'll be interesting. 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:44.760 Caylea van Dervetter was a shy junior who had no 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:46.360 idea what she was getting herself into. 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:48.840 But that's not what we did. It wasn't just a 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:52.120 class assignment, it wasn't just a grade. It was like 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:52.920 real life. 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:55.960 What I had been using in my sociology class for 0:08:56.440 --> 0:09:00.880 several years was profiling because that really fits in with 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:04.000 my standards about you know why people are the way 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:06.440 they are, you know, how were they socialized, you know 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:09.800 those type of things, and so I thought, well, I 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:13.280 can do that unit on you know, serial killers and 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:16.560 that type thing profiling, and maybe we could bring that 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:19.000 in and we could look to see if any of 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:21.559 these murders are related, because I knew enough to know 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:25.800 that if you have like the same signature, then you 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:29.280 probably have the same killer. And if you look online, 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:32.520 there was probably around thirteen murders that people try to 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:35.920 link to, these redhead murders, and there's. 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:37.400 A lot of differences in some of them. 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:39.680 So it felt like we could just take the thirteen 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:42.960 and we could go through them and the students could 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:47.559 learn about profiling and they could figure out if they 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:49.840 saw a link in any of the thirteen. 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:51.400 That's where we started. 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:55.360 We never really done anything like this in the class, 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:59.640 so we just had to be creative with our process. 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:02.840 Mister Campbell, he kind of directed us to where we 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:06.080 need to be, kind of where our focuses need to be. 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:09.000 It was kind of intimidating because you know, like these 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:11.840 are real people, that there's still families out there who 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:14.839 these victims belonged to. What if this guy's still alive, 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:17.000 Like what if he comes after us? But I think 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:20.160 mister Campbell did a great job of leading us and 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:23.160 guiding us in a way that made it not intimidating. 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:27.600 This type of teaching is called project based learning, where 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:31.360 you learn through the project, and the most important part 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:35.840 or day of project based learning is the introductory day 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:39.400 you introduce the project because if it's not interesting, then 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:43.120 the students are not interested the entire time. So you 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:44.439 really want to have a good way to kind of 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:47.760 hook the students into it, make them excited or understand 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:51.079 the importance or intrigued or whatever it is. And the 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:54.120 question to them was how do you find one person 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:57.560 out of two hundred million? And they just kind of 0:10:57.679 --> 0:10:59.160 stared at me blankly for a while. 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:02.040 Let me sit there the first day and mister Campbell 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:04.520 has up on the board this big number, and he 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:06.440 basically asked us the question like, out of all this 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:08.720 big number of people, would you guys be willing to 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:10.280 help some other people? 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:13.480 I said, okay, So if you're give a population two 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:17.600 hundred million, and you know it's a male, then you 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:21.280 can automatically exclude about half the population. They have it 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:23.679 down to one hundred million, and they were. 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:26.520 Like, oh okay. So I said, look, I'm going to 0:11:26.600 --> 0:11:27.040 test you. 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:29.440 I have this really cool thing that I want to 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:32.199 do with a serial killer. But I said, I don't 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:33.760 I don't know if this is a class to do it. 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:35.240 You know, kids love it when you give them a 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:37.679 good challenge. I don't you know, I got to make 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:40.040 sure you guys are the right students to this, because 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:41.000 this is hard work. 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:43.679 And they're like, yeah, yeah, let us try. 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:47.000 So I said, if you can give me twenty different 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:51.720 ways that you can narrow this two hundred million down 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:55.199 to one, then maybe you're the class to work on this. 0:11:57.920 --> 0:11:59.480 So I gave him I don't know, I forget. It's 0:11:59.520 --> 0:11:59.959 like thirty men. 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:02.760 And they worked in groups, and you know, they just 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:06.880 brainstormed all the different ways you know, age, race, heights, 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:08.880 you know, hair color, all these different ways you can 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:11.960 exclude people. And I think I was riding them on 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:14.280 the board, and you know, I think they got down 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:18.080 to about nineteen and and the bell was about ready 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:20.320 to ring. We had about thirty seconds. And by the way, 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:23.319 teenagers they know when the bell's going to ring. They 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:26.320 got that time, they got that timed out, and so 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:29.720 I was like, oh, we've only got nineteen. If we 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:31.080 don't get one more in the next you know a 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:33.600 little bit like, maybe you're not the class. And I 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:36.200 remember one student was like they were all racking their 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:38.840 brains so hard, and one of them finally said, you 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:40.640 know another way and I. 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:41.079 Was like, oh. 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:42.760 Then the bell rang right and I was like, okay, 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:46.680 well we got twenty. Maybe this is a you know, 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:49.560 critical thinking class that can handle this. And I told them, 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:53.440 I said, don't come back tomorrow if you're not ready 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:55.520 to work on this. I said, this is going to 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:59.000 be the hardest class you've ever had. And if you 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:00.920 don't want to do the work and you don't want 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:04.000 to work on this really hard, then go down there 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:07.600 to the to the principal or whoever, and you tell 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:09.920 them you want to change your class because if you 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:10.680 don't want to work. 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:13.640 Hard, this is not the class for you. And believe 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:15.040 it or not, every. 0:13:14.800 --> 0:13:21.240 Student came back the next day and we got to work. 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:26.680 Let's stop here for a break. We'll be back in 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:39.439 a moment. Murder one on one. 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:43.640 We really didn't know anything at first. You're talking about 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:47.120 a case that happened. Well, now it's over forty years ago. 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:50.440 It's basically a sight in the dark where we started from. 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:53.760 So he gave us a sheet we call it the 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:58.400 Redhead Bible, and it had every victim, and first we 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:00.960 had to decide whether all the victims were connected or not. 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:05.080 We just picked out similarities and we kind of mapped 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:08.040 out where they were, and we got in groups about 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:10.280 the victims and we decided who is going to be 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:13.559 in charge of that victim and studying their case specifically. 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:16.040 There was a lot of dead ends there in the beginning, 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:19.000 because this case doesn't have a lot of attention, and 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:20.760 I know a lot of times we were like, you know, 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:23.840 mister Campbell's crazy, We're never ever going to get to 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:24.640 the bottom of this. 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:29.960 I went and I found the information on all of 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:35.240 the Redhead murders that people considered part of that, and 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:37.840 so they were supposed to read up on those. 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:40.360 And then what we. 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:43.560 Try to do is create a like a target with 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:46.280 like an inner circle and then a periphery. 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:48.960 As we went out, I. 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:51.640 Said, you know, hopefully what we're going to see is 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:54.920 that there's some of these victims in the middle that 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:55.600 seem like. 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:57.520 Highly likely they're all related. 0:14:57.960 --> 0:14:59.800 And then you'll have some that are probably on the 0:14:59.880 --> 0:15:02.800 end outside that you feel like, well, maybe there's some things, 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:05.120 and then you'll probably have these others that are out 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:07.000 around the eds that you're like, well, I mean, they 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:09.640 had red hair, but they're probably not related. 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:11.120 And so that was the goal. 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:14.520 Just begin with the thirteen and let's just read about them. 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:17.640 And this was all just information online. It's all open 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:20.880 source information, and you know, let's just look at those 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:24.360 and let's figure out, you know, do we even feel 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:27.720 that there is a core group that are related. And 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:30.960 then if you do, then we'll begin to pursue and 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:34.040 we'll figure out how to tell if these victims that 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:39.920 appear related were killed by one person. So what our 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:44.000 students really focused on was are all these murders connected 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:46.840 or are they looking at too many different murders. And 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:49.600 so what our students found was that six of them 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:50.880 are virtually identical. 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:56.400 The Crtingdon County Jane, Don, DeSoto County, Green County Jane Doe, 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:59.320 Chief the County Jane, John, Campbell County Jane, the Knox 0:15:59.360 --> 0:15:59.840 County Jane. 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:04.520 And then they start asking me to tell them, well, 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:07.720 how do you tell if all these women were killed 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:10.040 by the same person? Like, how do you tell that 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:12.720 just from my body land beside the road. So then 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:16.000 they actually start asking me to teach them, which is the. 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:17.040 Greatest thing in the world. 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:21.120 Many times the teacher, you're chasing them with the education, 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:24.280 like's sit down, listen, please, I have it. But when 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:26.680 they start saying to you, like will you teach us 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:29.560 how to do this, then you know, that's when you 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:32.400 know you've created the right kind of atmosphere and you're 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:33.480 not going to have any trouble. 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:38.120 So we started basically with just talking about the different 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:42.080 aspects of like a murder and how police officers in 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:47.880 the FBI find killers with modus operandi and signature, and 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:49.840 what it means to build a profile. 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:53.960 It was a mixture of working in the period and 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:56.840 then sometimes we would have to do just outside homework 0:16:57.720 --> 0:16:58.960 because every day was different. 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:04.680 One day we would work on the profile, another day 0:17:04.760 --> 0:17:07.600 we would look at serial killers like throughout that, but 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:11.680 every day was different. We didn't know exactly what we're 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:15.040 going into, and that's just kind of how mister Campbell lives. 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:18.760 He loves to just make every day a different experience. 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:22.159 We continuously researched, like saying the serial killers and all 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:24.640 these other things, which for O a sociology class. Again, 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:26.480 I was not expecting whatsoever. 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:30.600 They didn't know they were begging me to teach him, 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:32.879 but they said things like, mister Campbell, how do we 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:35.200 know if this killer was a man or a woman? 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:37.520 And I was like, oh, you want me to teach 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:40.600 you and they're like yes, please, And so you know, 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:42.440 we would get into our sociology. 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:45.080 How do we know if this person was intelligent or not? 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:49.360 Well, we can get into our psychology and our sociology. 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:51.879 Why would they only kill women and not kill women 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:55.040 and men? Okay, we can get into our socialization. So 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:59.560 it was really neat because I felt like, hey created 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:02.199 this app sphere where the students realized they did not 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:04.800 know what they needed to know, and so they kept 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:08.240 asking me to teach them, just like another thing that 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:10.240 would help get them a little further down the road. 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:11.240 And instead of me. 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:13.120 Kind of having it pre planned like I will talk 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:16.960 about this today and this tomorrow and this the second 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:19.920 Tuesday from now, it was more like, Okay, let's see 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:21.960 where the kids are at, Let's see what help they need. 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:23.719 Let's see what I'm supposed to be teaching as part 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:26.200 of my standards, and then let's see what I can 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:28.120 teach them that will give them that piece of information 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:32.080 that they need. Some days we read up on the 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:35.439 different victims. I did give a victim to each different group. 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:40.520 We worked on things like profiling and socialization. We leorked 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:42.560 on you know, what are you supposed to get from 0:18:42.560 --> 0:18:44.440 a home life? What do you learn from your parents? 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:48.119 Why is that a socializing agent, the most important socializing 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:49.240 agent in society? 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:51.040 What happens if that goes wrong? 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:52.840 What happens if you don't get what you're supposed to 0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:56.080 get from your parents or your family? And so each 0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:58.520 one of those things that we learned, I think gave 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:01.000 them just like a little peace. He's the puzzle that 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:03.560 they were trying to put together to kind of bring 0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:05.200 this this picture into focus. 0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:10.960 We're all teenagers, so we never really had the chance 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:13.640 to work on a cold case. So I think everybody 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:16.320 was really excited to get to do something that nobody 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:18.240 else knows about, and we got to bring that to 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:18.560 a lot. 0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:21.679 When you hear about serial killers on the news or 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:25.119 on you know, media outlets, you think, oh, you know, 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:28.399 that can never possibly happen anywhere close to me. But 0:19:28.720 --> 0:19:31.720 once it does happen close to you. It almost you know, 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:34.439