Speaker 1: Warning. This podcast contains spoilers for season three episode six
Speaker 1: of The Mandalorian and the two episode finale of The
Speaker 1: Bad Batch season two Hello.
Speaker 2: My name is Jason Septi and I'm Rosie Knight, and
Speaker 2: welcome to x ray Vision, the Crooked Media podcast where
Speaker 2: we dive deep to your favorite shows, movies, comics, and
Speaker 2: pop culture. In this episode, in previously on, it's Trailer Mageddon,
Speaker 2: it's the Blue Beetle trailer, it's the Cross the spider
Speaker 2: Us trailer, it's the Secret Invasion trailer. We're talking about
Speaker 2: all of them. In air lock. It's The Bad Batch
Speaker 2: season season two two episode finale. You wanted to hear
Speaker 2: our thoughts on it, we are giving them to you.
Speaker 2: And because it's Star Wars all day, every day at
Speaker 2: the moment, we're doing season three, episode six of The
Speaker 2: Mandalorian And in the Nerda Amando and or theory from Pizza.
Speaker 1: Love that coming up Leon Okay, First up in trailer mcgeddon,
Speaker 1: let's start with the Blue Beetle trailer. Release date August eighteenth,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. Do we count this as like the
Speaker 1: first official.
Speaker 2: I believe James Gunn said this was where it begins
Speaker 2: it begins even though Superman, which is I believe twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five and we'll got the Batman two that year
Speaker 2: is the official first James Gun. He did say in
Speaker 2: that big announcement that post a flash this is the
Speaker 2: first kind of soft launch of the of the DC.
Speaker 1: And if that is, it looks really looks great.
Speaker 2: I'm excited for it. Like it's it's got a real
Speaker 2: nineties like zero early zeries. He's got superpowers and he's
Speaker 2: got to deal with them. It's very I love it.
Speaker 1: It's a classic origin story, the likes of which we
Speaker 1: really have not seen in a while.
Speaker 2: No, and it looks really charming. There's a lot of
Speaker 2: humor to it. I love that moment where he gets
Speaker 2: the scarab and it kind of jumps on his face
Speaker 2: and his whole family's just is.
Speaker 1: On your face, Oh my god, get it.
Speaker 2: Off, and horror elements of the suit. Yeah, it looks great.
Speaker 2: I love Sholo from you know Cobra Kai so charming.
Speaker 2: I love to see him in a role like this.
Speaker 2: I'm glad Warner Brothers was so excited to make it
Speaker 2: a theatrical instead of shiring it like back out. Harvey
Speaker 2: gianna Is in this movie and we don't know who
Speaker 2: he's playing. I'm hoping he's playing Ted Cord because we
Speaker 2: get to see how I may outside the Cord building.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I just think this looks like a ton
Speaker 2: of fun. And I love that he makes that big
Speaker 2: like anime sword at the end. It just yeah, just
Speaker 2: all good stuff. It made me feel really good watching
Speaker 2: this movie, and I wanted to see more.
Speaker 1: I think, all listen, if you have a power like
Speaker 1: the Green Lantern or the Blue Beetle, which allows you
Speaker 1: to create matter from your thoughts, if you're not doing
Speaker 1: a swort every time, then what are we doing?
Speaker 2: Literally? Especially, I feel like you hit on one of
Speaker 2: my biggest issues with Green Lantern, which is every single
Speaker 2: green landing can just imagine like a fist or a gun.
Speaker 1: What are we doing fists like this?
Speaker 2: It like please that you have literally the power of
Speaker 2: your imagination, a carnival like the big Fi, a giant
Speaker 2: gun you have, you don't need that, come on, guys.
Speaker 2: So the fact that he's the comps, the fact that
Speaker 2: he's thinking outside the box and he's coming up from
Speaker 2: the giant Bersark style sword. I was a big fan,
Speaker 2: just looks great. I can't wait to see it, and
Speaker 2: I'm very excited at the potential concept that this could
Speaker 2: be a kind of tone setter for what's to come.
Speaker 1: Same same and very excited to get into the gun
Speaker 1: A verse and next up across the Spider Verse, the
Speaker 1: sequel to into the Spider Verse at least stay June second,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. I mean, I don't even need to
Speaker 1: see the trailer. I love the trailer.
Speaker 2: You need to see it to see.
Speaker 1: It because I'm I loved into the Spider Verse.
Speaker 2: So let's be real. Best Spider Man movie ever made.
Speaker 1: I think so, one of the greatest comic book movies
Speaker 1: period ever made. And this is gonna be fantastic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you've got every kind of you got
Speaker 2: Ghost Spider. Let's be real Spider Gwen, sorry, Marvel. Miles
Speaker 2: Morale is obviously miguela Horror which is really interesting because that's,
Speaker 2: you know, Spider Man twenty ninety nine, who we saw
Speaker 2: at the end of the movie, who we're now seeing
Speaker 2: in what seems to be more of an antagonistic role
Speaker 2: that we saw Peter B. Parker, we saw his baby
Speaker 2: may Day Parker. We saw Spider Woman, which is Isa
Speaker 2: Ray there's spot who's going to be the villain kind
Speaker 2: of you're hilarious, like unexpected, weird multiversal villain. There's so
Speaker 2: many Spider manut Paveter Parker like the Spider Man.
Speaker 1: India shouts to our good friend Cody Zigzig Spider park
Speaker 1: in the movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it looks so good, and I kind
Speaker 2: of love we didn't really know much about the story
Speaker 2: before this, because I feel like they knew that we
Speaker 2: didn't really need to. You want to go there, you
Speaker 2: want to see that experimental animation that basically changed the game,
Speaker 2: Puss in Boots. It was taken for a Spider of Us,
Speaker 2: the Bad Guys, taken for a Spider of Us. Mitchell's
Speaker 2: Vessel's machine made by a lot of the same team,
Speaker 2: obviously taken from a Spider of Us. But I love
Speaker 2: the idea that what seems to be happening in this
Speaker 2: movie and what's creating the conflict is the idea that
Speaker 2: Miles basically has to go through a family lost tragedy,
Speaker 2: because if you don't lose your uncle Ben, you never
Speaker 2: become Spider Man. And I love this idea that Miles
Speaker 2: is going to go against that, and it's going to
Speaker 2: cause this potential multiversal collapse. We also get a direct
Speaker 2: reference to the MCU here they talk about what happened
Speaker 2: in uh, you know, Spider Man, No Way Home. They
Speaker 2: reference the real Earth designation not six one six, you
Speaker 2: know Earth one nine nine or whatever it is. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I just more multiversal fun. And the animation looks amazing.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see you know, Zig and Justin
Speaker 2: Mason Spider Punk up. They're played by Daniel Kalua London Icon,
Speaker 2: So I'm happy about that. I mean, looks absolutely unbelievable.
Speaker 2: The kind of trailer you just want to immediately watch again. Actually,
Speaker 2: both of these I think comple. They give you that
Speaker 2: real good, exciting feeling where you just wanna know more.
Speaker 2: I want to see may Day Parker. I want to
Speaker 2: see all the different Peter Parkers. I love. Actually, another
Speaker 2: thing me away in this trailer when they introduced Ben
Speaker 2: Riley for a controversial Spider Man figure.
Speaker 1: You know Ben has been grown on me.
Speaker 2: Well, they've been doing a lot Ben, They've been doing a.
Speaker 1: Lot of Ben work lately. Ben an early clone of
Speaker 1: Spider Man who's got his own thing going on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was kind of a huge reveal was that
Speaker 2: he had been Spider Man all along, and it was
Speaker 2: really controversial. He has this cool, like very nineties jean jacket.
Speaker 2: But when they show him in the movie, in the trailer,
Speaker 2: when you pause it, I mean, it looks like it's
Speaker 2: directly too d out of a comic book. Just the
Speaker 2: most beautiful, interesting stuff and so many incredible people worked
Speaker 2: on this. I can't wait to see it. It looks absolutely brilliant.
Speaker 1: And then finally on Jesney Plus Secret Invasion release date
Speaker 1: June twenty, first first episode of a six episode series.
Speaker 1: We didn't get too much more from this, No, I'm
Speaker 1: very excited for it. It feels like a tonal reset kind
Speaker 1: of obviously, you know, Fury coming back in that kind
Speaker 1: of winter soldier, conspiracy, spy, Marvel vibe. This trailer dropped
Speaker 1: kind of concurrently with a big Anthony Bresnacan exclusive photos.
Speaker 1: You know, that felt very much like, Hey, guys, don't worry.
Speaker 1: I know there's been a lot of I know there's
Speaker 1: been a lot of bed stories about are wares out
Speaker 1: there lately, But don't worry.
Speaker 2: These words are shiny again. Yeah, it looks very ultimate,
Speaker 2: very early phases of Marvel, where it's very grounded spy
Speaker 2: version secresy. I love Samuel Jackson's Nick furious one not
Speaker 2: all time great casting, so I love that. I have
Speaker 2: to say, look, when I think of Secret Invasion, it's
Speaker 2: hard for me to separate it from the immensity of
Speaker 2: the comic books and what that meant, which was who
Speaker 2: can you trust? Who is really which characters that you love.
Speaker 1: Have been.
Speaker 2: Years and you've been supporting them, You've been buying those issues,
Speaker 2: You've been following their adventures, and it's not them. I
Speaker 2: feel like currently what they're showing us is lacking that
Speaker 2: impact for me. But Fike has always said this will
Speaker 2: be a more intimate, small scale espionage thriller, so I'm
Speaker 2: interested in it. I love that Nick's not wearing the
Speaker 2: eye patch now, he's just he's living it up. He's
Speaker 2: showing off the cool, you know, flirkin scar, and I'm
Speaker 2: sure it's going to be great. I'm seeing a lot
Speaker 2: of Kobe smotherers, so I'm still sticking by the fact
Speaker 2: that I truly believe you are correct and that she
Speaker 2: will be the scroll that we all know. I will
Speaker 2: say another thing that I'm hoping to see them subvert here.
Speaker 2: It does look like we're getting the old classic there's
Speaker 2: a radical and it's played by a black actor, and
Speaker 2: there they've got really believable good goals, but they're gonna
Speaker 2: blow some people up so you can't support them. So
Speaker 2: I'm hoping we get something a little bit different with
Speaker 2: the Scrolls, but it'll be interesting. Revealed in that Vanity
Speaker 2: Fair article that Amelia Clark is playing Talos's daughter, Yeah,
Speaker 2: and not you know, Abigail Brand, which I think a
Speaker 2: lot of people thought though as somebody in our discord
Speaker 2: pointed out, she could be Abigail Brand.
Speaker 1: She could be anyway, and also she could.
Speaker 2: Be a scroll in the guys about her, you know,
Speaker 2: so who knows. But yeah, very interesting. I think there
Speaker 2: is an immense amount of pressure on this project, and
Speaker 2: I feel like they're behaving in quite a sensible way
Speaker 2: that has learned from things like say, Multive's a Madness,
Speaker 2: which I loved, but these movies where they made Ann
Speaker 2: in the Wasp, where they made people feel like it
Speaker 2: was going to be a groundbreaking earth sharing event, and
Speaker 2: it didn't necessarily live up to that in the way
Speaker 2: that people expected. I think going low key with the
Speaker 2: tone of this and just saying this is just going
Speaker 2: to be a spy adventure. I think it's smart and
Speaker 2: I think it will eventually pay off. I hope that
Speaker 2: this hits in a more impactful way than The Falcon
Speaker 2: of the Winter Soldier did for me, which is like
Speaker 2: one of my least favorite Marvel shows. But the fact
Speaker 2: that you know you have Sam at the center, it's
Speaker 2: like you just know it's going to be a good time.
Speaker 1: Did anything here change your thoughts about who may or
Speaker 1: may not be a Scroll?
Speaker 2: My biggest thought coming out of this was actually that
Speaker 2: they might not do that at all. I think that
Speaker 2: they showed.
Speaker 1: The I worryingly felt the same way the.
Speaker 2: Kingsley Bendea character, who's going to be this kind of
Speaker 2: Scroll rebel leader. It seemed like they were almost doing
Speaker 2: a Mister Smith thing with him, where there were multiple
Speaker 2: versions of him who's shape shifting into the same guy.
Speaker 2: So I don't know if they are going to do
Speaker 2: the Secret Invasion classic iteration and instead we're going to
Speaker 2: see the Scrolls use their shape shifting stuff in a
Speaker 2: different way.
Speaker 1: I think what we are going to see in Secret
Speaker 1: Invasion is the birth of the super Scroll.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, let's talk about that.
Speaker 1: I think all the lab stuff that we're seeing is
Speaker 1: the Scrolls, the extremist sect of the Scrolls, who are invading,
Speaker 1: who are doing the invasion or taking over various for
Speaker 1: various powerful people in Earth's government. I think that they
Speaker 1: saw the superheroes of Earth and they said, Okay, we
Speaker 1: got to figure that out. Yeah, have to Like shape
Speaker 1: shifting is cool, but why don't we have like why
Speaker 1: can't we fly? Why can't I punch somebody's And I
Speaker 1: think that they are trying to create powers, and I
Speaker 1: think we're going to see that's who, that's who. Uh,
Speaker 1: Gravic Kingsley Bendere is going to be is the first two.
Speaker 2: I think that's right now. That seems kind of strange
Speaker 2: because the super Sculls are so deeply connected to the
Speaker 2: Fantastic Four in the comics. But I will say we
Speaker 2: get a moment with Kingsley Benedet's character Gravic where his
Speaker 2: arms go towards and it's almost it looks I felt
Speaker 2: like it looked quite read rich esy, but as I've
Speaker 2: seen lots of smart people point out, it looks a
Speaker 2: lot like Group's powers. Yeah, which is kind of this
Speaker 2: interesting idea, like the ten drills going out. So I
Speaker 2: do wonder if maybe this could be connected to Power Broker, if,
Speaker 2: as some people kind of suggested, Agent thirteen was actually
Speaker 2: a scroll in disguise. Maybe the scrolls have been collecting
Speaker 2: people's powers or the DNA of people who have powers
Speaker 2: and trying to create this you know, super scroll in
Speaker 2: a new way. Kang also does exist. Now that's a
Speaker 2: direct linear to the Fantastic Four. So I think you're right.
Speaker 2: I think that the super Scroll may be the kind
Speaker 2: of super sciencey element in this rather grounded space.
Speaker 1: I'm sad. I want someone big to be a scroll.
Speaker 2: Me too. Let's be real. Let's be real. There's six episodes.
Speaker 2: This is the MCU that I there could be a
Speaker 2: shocking surprise if we just look at the cast, right,
Speaker 2: So you've got Everett k Ross definitely could be a
Speaker 2: scroll scroll, but who it's not that huge impact. I
Speaker 2: wonder if we look at who's actually in this we
Speaker 2: know that Rody is going to be in this movie,
Speaker 2: that would be I think the only person that they
Speaker 2: could have that gut punch impact. But that would also
Speaker 2: probably take away from whatever he's trying to do with
Speaker 2: Armor Wars, which I assume they will try to tie
Speaker 2: into this crea skull war the way things are.
Speaker 1: Going, Rody actually died after the airport fight in Germany.
Speaker 2: How that's the kind of shame where people would be
Speaker 2: losing their mind. But you know, there is out scroll
Speaker 2: history and the way that scroll ship shifts. There are
Speaker 2: people who spend time among humans and become allied with them,
Speaker 2: And we've kind of already got that a little bit
Speaker 2: with Taloso that wasn't in a shape shifting form. But
Speaker 2: I think that looking at the cast, it really either
Speaker 2: is going to be a big surprise and a character
Speaker 2: that we're not explaining. I'm still going for Hawkeye. I
Speaker 2: truly believe that makes the most sense. But I think
Speaker 2: if we're looking at the people who play a major
Speaker 2: role in this, Rody seems like a high contender. And
Speaker 2: you're right, you know, how did he come back to
Speaker 2: life after that?
Speaker 1: Like setious?
Speaker 2: I mean, I suppose the other thing. Now, don't get
Speaker 2: too excited, because I definitely have had a tendency in
Speaker 2: the past to come up with cool ideas that they
Speaker 2: would never do and then people be upset that they
Speaker 2: don't do them. But you know, Tony actually survived the
Speaker 2: snap and comes back in this form, and then he's
Speaker 2: actually a scroll and you have that be a large
Speaker 2: part of armor for Wars. Is Roady trying to convince
Speaker 2: people it's not really Tony. That would be very very
Speaker 2: cool and I think would kind of blow people, be
Speaker 2: freaking amazing.
Speaker 1: All right up next to the Bad Batch and the Mandalorian,
Speaker 1: we're stepping out of the air lock and into the
Speaker 1: two part finale of season two of The Bad Batch,
Speaker 1: now streaming on Disney Plus. And what a way to
Speaker 1: end a season.
Speaker 2: Woo.
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of Clone Wars vibe too.
Speaker 1: Obviously it's the same kind of the same time period
Speaker 1: for The Bad Batch, but I'm spot I'm talking about
Speaker 1: like the number of episodes and the kind of up
Speaker 1: and down nature of it, but like a really strong
Speaker 1: closing to this season that started very strong. Also episode fifteen,
Speaker 1: The Summit and episode sixteen, Plan ninety nine. It's or
Speaker 1: you know, sixty six episode and I have a lot
Speaker 1: of thoughts but and so when lou Over recap it
Speaker 1: basically all revolves around an attempt to locate Crosshair and
Speaker 1: to rescue the Clones who are being held by Doctor
Speaker 1: Hemlock who's doing something that we don't know, and all
Speaker 1: of that results in the unfortunate death of our good friend.
Speaker 2: Tech sacrifice, I think, truly sad sacrifice.
Speaker 1: We will always have the tech Turn that will live forever.
Speaker 1: We can talk about whether he's really dead. But I
Speaker 1: have a bunch of thoughts, and first among them, we
Speaker 1: gotta let Sagerera cook. You guys, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: Every time we've been saying this, this man is always right,
Speaker 2: always right, every single time. I feel like that is
Speaker 2: either going to pay off at some point. Well, this
Speaker 2: is just one of the few places where this part
Speaker 2: of Star Wars storytelling fails because he is not wrong.
Speaker 2: He is right every time. In this moment, he is
Speaker 2: talking about stopping the creation of the death stop correct, right.
Speaker 1: So, so the bad batch is, you know, they're on
Speaker 1: the ground, they're invaded this imperial facility. There's this huge
Speaker 1: fucking firefight, and they happen to run into Sagrera who's
Speaker 1: also there, and it's like, hey, wilet, you guys are here.
Speaker 1: Uh my, what I'm here to do is blow up
Speaker 1: all this the imperial leadership that's all here. We got
Speaker 1: grahamav Tarkin, this here we got Orsyncretic here, we got
Speaker 1: doctor Hemlock here, we got a lot of movers and
Speaker 1: shakers here, and I'm going to blow up this whole facility.
Speaker 1: And then, uh, you know, the bad Batch is like,
Speaker 1: well that's short sighted because you can actually you know,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of clones here, and we're trying to
Speaker 1: rescue the clones. And actually, if you do that, then
Speaker 1: you know, all this short sighted violence will pay off
Speaker 1: in the medium and long term because you'll be able
Speaker 1: to draw more support to you to do whatever it
Speaker 1: is you do. There isn't even a rebellion, Like I'm sorry, guys,
Speaker 1: I get it, bad Batch. You want to save your
Speaker 1: your brothers.
Speaker 2: I love the clones.
Speaker 1: I want any clothes to die.
Speaker 2: If if they had let Sorgerrera do his thing, Alderom
Speaker 2: would still exist.
Speaker 1: It would have at least been like the destruction would
Speaker 1: have been delayed. I think we couldn't.
Speaker 2: I think we could say that.
Speaker 1: Listen. I've seen other places say well they just would
Speaker 1: have replaced Tarken and critic. Sure, but with like critic
Speaker 1: was an idiot and so maybe heard about it. But
Speaker 1: Grandma Turcan was like really good at his job. I
Speaker 1: think it would have like, even if they would have
Speaker 1: been replaced, who fucking cares.
Speaker 2: Let's thinking about it, ausyncretic, he is the one who
Speaker 2: is keeping tabs on Jinnaso's dad, who was the one
Speaker 2: they actually needed to build the Death Star. Like, you know,
Speaker 2: we get these big references here to the original trilogy.
Speaker 2: You get this project star Dust, which we know is
Speaker 2: them talking about the creation of the Death Star. We
Speaker 2: get this huge kind of monumental it's been revealed itself
Speaker 2: over time. But there's two big things that we learn here.
Speaker 2: One is that this has really been a season about
Speaker 2: how the Stormtroopers came to replace the Clones, which is huge.
Speaker 2: And another doing exactly what we love about these animated series,
Speaker 2: which is expanding on moments that we're not one hundred
Speaker 2: percent aware of every nuance that happened in canon, and
Speaker 2: of course the proto cloning that we know will end
Speaker 2: up going towards the Sacred Trilogy.
Speaker 1: Would not be surprised if if Gideon is baby Gideon,
Speaker 1: baby Gideon young Gideon God to start working for doctor
Speaker 1: Hemlock in some form of fashion here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very interesting stuff, but I definitely was also
Speaker 2: overwhelmed by the saw was right, Come on again.
Speaker 1: Every time I get it, I really do get it,
Speaker 1: but it and yes, it's you know, there'd be some unfortunately,
Speaker 1: people would die in this. But like, what are we doing?
Speaker 1: Are we trying to like score to like bowl a
Speaker 1: perfect game against the Empire? Or do you actually want
Speaker 1: to fight because a lot of the big names are here.
Speaker 1: Let sau do his fucking thing if.
Speaker 2: You want to, if he wants to do the day
Speaker 2: you work. Yeah, let's be real. That I think is
Speaker 2: one of the funniest conundrums of these stories, which we
Speaker 2: love so much, and they add all this great context.
Speaker 2: When you spend more time with these characters and you
Speaker 2: have more nuanced to the stories, it suddenly becomes a
Speaker 2: lot more complex. Then well, you just blow up the
Speaker 2: Death Star, because you blow up the Death Star ends
Speaker 2: the Empire. Great, well done, But then you get those
Speaker 2: conversations of well, what about all the people who worked
Speaker 2: on the Death Star who weren't actually you know they're
Speaker 2: by choice, or who were imperial grunts who were groomed.
Speaker 2: It's that same thing. But in this moment, I do
Speaker 2: feel like more good than harm would have been done
Speaker 2: if they let us all do.
Speaker 1: This if you go by Cody's for us. See, Cody
Speaker 1: would have said at the Battle of Evn, well, we
Speaker 1: have to evacuate all the people that are on the
Speaker 1: Death Store that maybe don't want to do this, you know,
Speaker 1: there's just a job, or there might be some clothes
Speaker 1: on there, and we evacuate them. I get it. Sure,
Speaker 1: But do you think.
Speaker 2: They says like Dave Filoni punishing us for all those
Speaker 2: conversations we had about and that's not He's like, you
Speaker 2: are Cody now, Like I guess is what you've all
Speaker 2: been doing this whole time?
Speaker 1: I think Cody is just I think Cody. I understand
Speaker 1: Cody's rationale here and I and I get it. And
Speaker 1: nobody really knows even though they're all talking about the
Speaker 1: death Star, nobody really knows what they're wing.
Speaker 2: No one knows what projects taught us this. Yea death
Speaker 2: doesn't exist in any way that they understand, so.
Speaker 1: They couldn't have known. And so I get based on
Speaker 1: the information they have, they made an absolutely reasonable call
Speaker 1: to be like, hey, saw, don't that said? I just
Speaker 1: want to acknowledge once again, who's right? He's right again?
Speaker 2: He was absolutely right.
Speaker 1: He is right again. He was right again. And his
Speaker 1: main problem is that he was right way before anybody
Speaker 1: else could even guess what the you know, what the
Speaker 1: what was going on, and so therefore he seems like
Speaker 1: a radical when in reality he's just like eighteen years
Speaker 1: early exactly.
Speaker 2: If you compare the actions that Saw takes that people
Speaker 2: think are so violent and radical, they are absolutely equivalent
Speaker 2: to the things that Luke does.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like you want to blow do you
Speaker 1: do you want like a two million people in the
Speaker 1: death Sert to die? Or do you want to kill
Speaker 1: like the you know, five hundred people that are in
Speaker 1: this facility right now and stop it from ever happening.
Speaker 1: It's like a trade off exactly.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I agree with you. That was a big
Speaker 2: takeaway I had from this, especially because that's a drum
Speaker 2: we've been beating for a long time. Sorry. Also, can
Speaker 2: I just say that the last time we saw Sam
Speaker 2: we were talking about how he was right, he was
Speaker 2: actually the one arguing about protecting his people. So this
Speaker 2: is not some one sided thing where he just wants
Speaker 2: to kill people. He is a complex, nuanced man just
Speaker 2: like everyone else. But of course this is the Clone Show,
Speaker 2: so they're on a mission to save the clones. And
Speaker 2: I love that because I do want to save as
Speaker 2: many clones as possible.
Speaker 1: And I think that the overall conversation about that has
Speaker 1: always been inherent with the clones identity, you know, a
Speaker 1: personal identity. What does it mean to be an individual
Speaker 1: when you have been created from the DNA of one
Speaker 1: person and you look just like all these others. I
Speaker 1: think that is really fascinating. The bad batch within that
Speaker 1: idea is really interesting in and of itself because they
Speaker 1: are the ones.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Tech says that thing right before he dies. You know,
Speaker 1: when have we ever followed orders unlike the rest of
Speaker 1: the clones, you know? And I think that is that idea.
Speaker 1: Individualism within like a why a larger kind of monolithic
Speaker 1: group is really interesting and I love exploring that here Tech,
Speaker 1: is he dead?
Speaker 2: I mean, I feelate the answer is no, just because
Speaker 2: of what we've seen in the past, with the way
Speaker 2: that they treat like a clone who dies or goes
Speaker 2: missing and they have that big, surprising comeback. So my
Speaker 2: hope would be no. But it had such a big
Speaker 2: impact on Omega. I think this one might stick.
Speaker 1: I think it might stick to and I think you
Speaker 1: don't do the slow Mo Fall.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. That's true.
Speaker 1: That's a classics you're gonna mean it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't like rewind the slow mo fall. It
Speaker 2: has a context and an impact.
Speaker 1: And I agree with you Omega, man, it really it
Speaker 1: really hit Omega like that was heartbreaking, actually her wanting
Speaker 1: to go back. They can't go back. You obviously can't
Speaker 1: go back.
Speaker 2: And also I think that notion of sacrifice like no, no,
Speaker 2: we never leave anyone behind, and actually that was somebody's
Speaker 2: choice to do that so we could move forward. So
Speaker 2: are you going to take advantage of that or are
Speaker 2: you going to stay behind and you know, trying to
Speaker 2: save somebody who in the end chose not to be saved.
Speaker 2: I think as well, the thing that you mentioned about
Speaker 2: individualism and this kind of idea of finding yourself in
Speaker 2: this Clone army, which has obviously been even since the
Speaker 2: Clone War stuff, is like so key to the most
Speaker 2: impactful stuff we learned that that is at the heart
Speaker 2: of why the Clone Troopers end up becoming irrelevant for
Speaker 2: what the Empire needs them, and why the Stormtroopers come
Speaker 2: through because they realize, oh, actually you can't just clone
Speaker 2: people and expect them to all behave exactly the same way.
Speaker 2: There's that this breakout of human spirit, basically people who
Speaker 2: will go against the grain. And it's not just a
Speaker 2: bad batch. You know, there are other clones who have
Speaker 2: done that. So I thought that was really interesting and
Speaker 2: obviously kind of what we all thought, because with the Stormtroopers,
Speaker 2: you're essentially trying to create an army of people who
Speaker 2: never question you. But I thought it was nice to
Speaker 2: kind of see that acknowledged here, and it goes along
Speaker 2: really well with the greater journey that they've been on.
Speaker 1: Your thoughts on the strands that are obviously leading towards
Speaker 1: the Palpatine cloning project, project Project New Palpatine.
Speaker 2: Well, I will say we were right, because I do
Speaker 2: think it is no coincidence that in the Mandalori and
Speaker 2: in this we now have what are essentially threads here
Speaker 2: to let's say, expand on rather than fix. No matter
Speaker 2: what our feelings are about Rise of Skyrocrifite, it does
Speaker 2: feel like Felonious once again using this as a space
Speaker 2: to kind of embroider more detail and context, because as
Speaker 2: we know, even Oscar Isaac was tired when he said it.
Speaker 2: Somehow Palpatine returned it is the somehow it feels like
Speaker 2: we're getting it here. We're definitely getting it in the Mandalorian.
Speaker 2: I like that idea that maybe there's some connection to Gideon,
Speaker 2: even a Gideon mentor who work for Hemlock or something
Speaker 2: that seems like where we're going. I'm very interested to
Speaker 2: know how that all comes together, because this is very
Speaker 2: different to when the Clone Wars was on air and
Speaker 2: they were rebuilding. That was not a time when we
Speaker 2: had Star Wars Live Action TV. It was not a
Speaker 2: time when there was so much cohesion between these different
Speaker 2: branches of lucasfilm. I want to know if we are
Speaker 2: really going to see these threads from the Bad Batch
Speaker 2: come into Live Action Star Wars TV soon, if we're
Speaker 2: going to start to see a much more fluid and
Speaker 2: quicker crossover, because we've gotten it to a point, but
Speaker 2: it feels like this could be leading to something that
Speaker 2: would end together.
Speaker 1: You know what's really interesting is one of the kind
Speaker 1: of driving themes of the Clone Wars is the Jedi
Speaker 1: missed it. They missed the rise of Palpatine's right there.
Speaker 1: He's like two and a half blocks over from the
Speaker 1: Jedi Tim.
Speaker 2: He's actually chilling with people that you know he can't.
Speaker 1: You know, Yoda can't feel his presence. They have multiple
Speaker 1: meat face to his meetings with the guy, and they
Speaker 1: just think he's just some chilling and it really feels like, ah, man,
Speaker 1: they're so close and they just missed it. And now
Speaker 1: with the bad batchuh, you know, with the Mandalorian, you've
Speaker 1: got this. The new kind of thing that everybody missed
Speaker 1: is Palpatine's coming back, the cloning drive to recreate more Palpatine,
Speaker 1: so Palpatine can you know, be our villain in perpetuity.
Speaker 1: And it's really interesting now to see this kind of
Speaker 1: feeling developing again, where I mean Captain Teva's really the
Speaker 1: only one who's like, I think there's something going on
Speaker 1: with cloning guys and some kind of issue around the
Speaker 1: Outer Rim and Navarro like what's going on? It It
Speaker 1: feels again, although much less pointed, but still feels again
Speaker 1: like hey, there's something going on with cloning. Who is
Speaker 1: gonna catch on? Yeah, and it's anyone.
Speaker 2: It's interesting to see that in a more of a
Speaker 2: real time rather than something that's retroactively added, you know,
Speaker 2: like we saw this sequel trilogy reveal that Palpatine came
Speaker 2: back and now just a few years later, we're starting
Speaker 2: to see, oh they missed it again, Like this wasn't
Speaker 2: some super secretive out of rim nobody knew about it situation.
Speaker 2: This was going on under their noses while the original
Speaker 2: Palpatine was still alive.
Speaker 1: The animation style is incredible. This is maybe this is
Speaker 1: The action in this was unbelievable. There's some really great
Speaker 1: like one shots where in particular where the bad Batch
Speaker 1: is like fighting through the facility and they like punched
Speaker 1: this Stormtrooper multiple times and then the camera like flips
Speaker 1: so you can follow them running down the hall. Feels
Speaker 1: freaking great. And by the way, I think this is
Speaker 1: the best the Stormtroopers have ever done in a fight.
Speaker 2: They look good, they did well. Yeah, this is not
Speaker 2: your you know, four generations down stormtrooper missing everything with
Speaker 2: a blaster. Also, I feel you really like, I feel
Speaker 2: like there's a great anime influence on this in the
Speaker 2: way that they're using cameras as if they're shooting live action,
Speaker 2: but you're doing animation. And I love to see. When
Speaker 2: Clon Wars came out, there was just so much hate
Speaker 2: for that art style, and it didn't help that they
Speaker 2: did that short clone Wars with Gendi, who's obviously such
Speaker 2: an iconic animator.
Speaker 1: I think still, oh yes, right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that one first, and so that sets this tone,
Speaker 2: and then you go to this full cg and people
Speaker 2: have that struggle to connect with it, and then Rebels
Speaker 2: you have that different style. It's really nice to see
Speaker 2: the bad Batch keep the spirit of Clone Wars alive.
Speaker 2: But just looks so fucking good, Like this has Disney
Speaker 2: plus money, do you know what I mean? It feels
Speaker 2: like anyone can sit down and appreciate this as a
Speaker 2: prestige TV show, even though it's animation, which is a
Speaker 2: really hard bridge to cross, and I feel like this
Speaker 2: is a really important show to watch if you love
Speaker 2: Star Wars. It feels vital.
Speaker 1: I agree, And it's just it just looks great. It
Speaker 1: looks really great. Your thoughts on the uh Omega meeting
Speaker 1: adult Omega shocking twists and where were they?
Speaker 2: I know, it was very cool.
Speaker 1: It looked I see pyramids and I was like, is that, Yeahvin,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but like that is obviously feels pretty huge.
Speaker 1: And the idea that they were we always knew that
Speaker 1: there might be more Omegas out there, but the fact
Speaker 1: that there definitely is one feels really huge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we always we always knew that Omega was basically
Speaker 2: like the next kind of generation of clone, this enhanced
Speaker 2: kind of clone. Potentially people wondering if she was for sensitive.
Speaker 2: I was very interesting to wonder that. Yeah, basically I
Speaker 2: was wondering the exact same thing. Where the Commonian stuff
Speaker 2: has been demolished, So where are they? Where is this
Speaker 2: intense black pyramid with a kind of inner jungle with
Speaker 2: another pyramid kind of floating on top of it. Almost
Speaker 2: it looks so cool, and I really think it seems
Speaker 2: to me that essentially there's probably going to be like
Speaker 2: a female version of the bad Batch that would come
Speaker 2: out of these that could come out of these Omega clones,
Speaker 2: that Omega would lead. That's how it feels to me
Speaker 2: at the.
Speaker 1: End, really strong ending to the season. Once again, shots
Speaker 1: to my guy Sagerera. You saw it. No, you won't
Speaker 1: get the respect you deserve, but you saw it. Up
Speaker 1: next The Mandalorian, The Mandalorian season three titled Chapter twenty two,
Speaker 1: Guns for Hire, directed by Bryce styles Howard.
Speaker 2: In the Icon, she's back again, just in her bag.
Speaker 2: When must she get? In the stal Wars movie, she deserves.
Speaker 2: We've all been asking for it for so long.
Speaker 1: All the Way in Her Bag written by John Favreau.
Speaker 1: We open in space an imperial ship crewed by Mandalorian
Speaker 1: mercenaries waylays a Quorn ship. The Mandalorian captain Axe Wolves,
Speaker 1: we've met him before, has been hired by some noble
Speaker 1: Moncalamari family to retrieve their love struck prince son. Apparently,
Speaker 1: the Quorn and the Montcalamari they shared the planet and
Speaker 1: their uneasy neighbors. And apparently the son who is in
Speaker 1: love with the Quorn captain of this Quorn ship has
Speaker 1: caused some sort of a scandal, and so the Mandalorians
Speaker 1: have to separate them and bring the sun back to
Speaker 1: his family. The Marandalorians agree with the Quorn captain. This
Speaker 1: is very dishonorable and distasteful business, but as a wise
Speaker 1: man once said, that's what the money is for the
Speaker 1: most jobs done they bring. They park their fleet back
Speaker 1: home on Plazier fifteen in the Outer Rim. We go
Speaker 1: to our friends bowed In and the Baby. They are
Speaker 1: heading to Plasier fifteen themselves because they need to. You know,
Speaker 1: they're the new ambassadors for the rebuilding Mandalor project.
Speaker 2: And they're trying to find Bo's old crew, you know,
Speaker 2: who abandoned her and became mercenaries after she lost the
Speaker 2: Dark Saber. So this is a quest that makes a
Speaker 2: lot of sense and puts them on an interesting side
Speaker 2: quest which I personally loved, yes, and was not expecting.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that their intention is to find more Mandalorians.
Speaker 1: That's right. So they arrive on the planet and there's
Speaker 1: some like delightful sixteen bit fanfare music and announcement about
Speaker 1: you know what plus your fifteen is, and a voice
Speaker 1: welcomes them, you know, to a plus your fifteen the
Speaker 1: only direct to Christine in the Outer Rim. Grogu seems
Speaker 1: to really love the music. They pass some Imperial droids
Speaker 1: on the way to.
Speaker 2: Train notable for what will come to Boss.
Speaker 1: And on the train, you know they're they're heading in.
Speaker 1: They're kind of being interviewed by the security services of
Speaker 1: Pleasure fifteen. On the way in. Bo is like, hey,
Speaker 1: we want to speak to the man. We're here to
Speaker 1: see the man, my Mandalorian brethren. Can we can we
Speaker 1: speak to them? And the voice is like, no dice
Speaker 1: because according to the Corosonic chords, uh, you know, no
Speaker 1: outsider can have like direct contact with military assets and
Speaker 1: peacekeeping zones whatever that means.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's lots of bureau chrissy hair. You love bureaucriic
Speaker 2: Star Wars. You will be happy because there is some
Speaker 2: rules that are being laid down by the New Republic.
Speaker 1: And the voice then is like, can we get your
Speaker 1: chain codes so we can verify who you are? They
Speaker 1: do and then all of a sudden, this voice is like, hey,
Speaker 1: guess what, Bocuten Creese and denjarying, your presence is requested
Speaker 1: at a certain place. They go to a place and
Speaker 1: it's a feast. There's a feast going on, and this
Speaker 1: is a star studded episode of the guys.
Speaker 2: Say how they kept these cameos quiet kind of blows
Speaker 2: my mind. I know that this is just people who
Speaker 2: probably wanted to work with Bryce and who obviously also
Speaker 2: wanted to be in a Star War becers who doesn't.
Speaker 2: But it's really great because you get this feast and
Speaker 2: you first of will have this hilarious moment where you
Speaker 2: see one of the aliens, you know who, Gorgu was
Speaker 2: trying to eat the eggs, the baby eggs, and that
Speaker 2: was really shocking everyone and I was like, oh, my gosh,
Speaker 2: it's one of those aliens. And then at the top
Speaker 2: of the table it's like, oh, it's Lizzo and.
Speaker 1: Jack Black, So obviously that's huge, just casual. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: so they're playing the duchess who is part of this
Speaker 1: ruling family that has ruled plus you're fifteen to four apparently.
Speaker 2: Since it was ever settled all of its modern history.
Speaker 1: And Captain Bombadier.
Speaker 2: A perfect name for a character played by Jack Black.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the elected rulers, and you know, they sit down,
Speaker 1: Jack Black, excuse me. Captain Bobadier offers them some drinks,
Speaker 1: which are apparently secreted by some really gross, like sac
Speaker 1: looking globular alien in a in a jar.
Speaker 2: This is classic interesting Star Wars world building because we
Speaker 2: really get the sense of that opulent, disconnected wealth that
Speaker 2: so often exists in the world of Star Wars because
Speaker 2: of people's connections to war or, as we'll find out,
Speaker 2: the imperial kind of regime.
Speaker 1: And Captain Barbadier addresses them, He's okay, let's address the Bonson.
Speaker 1: I was once a facility's planner officer during the War
Speaker 1: for the Empire, and thanks to the New Republic amnuscry program,
Speaker 1: I was able to help rebuild the Plazi or fifteen,
Speaker 1: and then the Dutch just echoes that saying, you know,
Speaker 1: plusy or fifteen really got just really got wrecked during
Speaker 1: the war and suffered under imperial rule. And my husband,
Speaker 1: Captain Bombardier has really really done great job in helping
Speaker 1: us rebuild and using his skills as an acquisitions officer
Speaker 1: for the Empire. Which, hey, they were great at acquiring stuff.
Speaker 2: That's what colonialism is good, good at stealing stuff from
Speaker 2: other table.
Speaker 1: And certainly they seemed to be living it up now,
Speaker 1: so everything is going great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and they fell in love. Isn't that great? Well,
Speaker 2: one magical story.
Speaker 1: You know what I I I hate I obviously whenever
Speaker 1: I see former imperials thriving, I take, I do a
Speaker 1: double take. But this is for love and everybody seems happy.
Speaker 2: So on the planet, yeah, I actually I did expect
Speaker 2: to see some kind of like secret dark a side
Speaker 2: of the planet, kind of like what we saw in
Speaker 2: the Last Jedi, but you don't really get that hit
Speaker 2: it Great's is allegedly these people would elected democratically. People
Speaker 2: seem happy, everyone strive any and some food. There's some
Speaker 2: issues with droids that we'll get into that.
Speaker 1: It's like Nieman Marcus the planet. Everything is luxurious, nobody works.
Speaker 1: Everybody's hanging out having a chill and buying stuff. It's
Speaker 1: shopping all the time.
Speaker 2: All the time.
Speaker 1: Pretty great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's uh tourism, capitalism, but just al die
Speaker 2: every day and nobody works, which seems great. I would
Speaker 2: love to see it.
Speaker 1: I'll just say this, you know, I think the AMBSC
Speaker 1: program is not only well meaning, but good and and
Speaker 1: if it's imperfect, as we've seen in other episodes of
Speaker 1: The Bandalorian, then it's imperfect for a good cause. I
Speaker 1: think it's probably a net positive. It means to be
Speaker 1: seen how things go with the cloning program.
Speaker 2: The idea is I would say I agree with you
Speaker 2: net positive, because it is worth giving people that second
Speaker 2: chance to forced into those roles.
Speaker 1: That said, and we don't know what Captain Bombardier was
Speaker 1: up to in his previous life as an acquisitions officer
Speaker 1: for the Empire. I feel like everybody's always playing down
Speaker 1: what they did in the exactly that I was an
Speaker 1: acquisitions officer or really, where are you station the death start?
Speaker 1: Like we were even.
Speaker 2: Just that, but like where which planets were you ravaging,
Speaker 2: Like whose family wealth are you now sitting on like
Speaker 2: playing space croquet and eating delicious feasts. It seems inethical.
Speaker 2: I also think there is an interesting statement being made
Speaker 2: here when we look at how somebody like Bombardier is
Speaker 2: being treated in this amnesty program compared to the kind
Speaker 2: of low level grunts that we saw who are also
Speaker 2: living in these halfway houses. And we saw in that
Speaker 2: same episode of The Man Bluriyo and where we kind
Speaker 2: of explored where Pershing was at that there are these
Speaker 2: wealthy kind of scions who just don't care whether it's
Speaker 2: the Empire, the New Republic, whoever, as long as they
Speaker 2: can stay fat and enjoy the things that they enjoy.
Speaker 2: And Bomba definitely seems to be more leaning that way.
Speaker 1: Although it certainly seems like a great guy.
Speaker 2: I mean, it looks like it would be a lot
Speaker 2: of fun to be at this face love is Curlie
Speaker 2: Mustache and listen, he's married to Lizzo, so obviously doing
Speaker 2: something right, right and listen.
Speaker 1: During the Imperial days, it's like, if you wanted to work,
Speaker 1: you kind of had to be in lead with the Empire.
Speaker 1: So I get I get it. Anyway, the Duchess then
Speaker 1: offers Grogu some space sardines, and Grogu's like, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: does the flip right into her arm.
Speaker 2: He's just never not flip in now.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Dinners like I don't know, grog and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, Grego's like, well, I like anybody.
Speaker 2: Who's giving me some food, delicious seafood.
Speaker 1: We learned that this the whole direct democracy thing, which
Speaker 1: is basically everybody votes for the person that they want
Speaker 1: to rule. There's no voting for a representative and then
Speaker 1: is going to cast a vote for whoever is going
Speaker 1: to rule. You do you vote directly for the person
Speaker 1: you want. And so this whole direct democracy thing is
Speaker 1: is pretty new, and that even though the Duchess and
Speaker 1: our family have ruled for all the planet's history, they
Speaker 1: are now the duly elected leaders. One wonders if if
Speaker 1: you are the ruling family for generations, what chance any
Speaker 1: other Canada have.
Speaker 2: Already like monarchs?
Speaker 1: That seems unlike again, everybody seems trying their best, everybody
Speaker 1: seems happy. We also learned that Bombadier's imperial past means
Speaker 1: that he can't be in command of any military force,
Speaker 1: and therefore are fifteen kids can't can't have a military,
Speaker 1: so they outsource their military force. Thus the Mandalorians. That's
Speaker 1: why they are here. They are essentially mercenaries here on
Speaker 1: the planet.
Speaker 2: To me, that feels like a very loophole, an obvious
Speaker 2: loophole that they should stop, because it's like, you can't
Speaker 2: have a nationalist military that is run by people if
Speaker 2: you can't, agreed. I honestly, militaries always leaking some bad stuff.
Speaker 2: I get that, especially with the imperial connection. But just
Speaker 2: hiring random mercenaries who you pay to commit war crimes,
Speaker 2: I doesn't say, my.
Speaker 1: Guest, it seems like the way it works is they
Speaker 1: hired them to just be security guards. Yeah, they protecting
Speaker 1: and that, and they can't give them any orders beyond that.
Speaker 1: It's kind of just like, hey, protect the planet and
Speaker 1: whatever else you guys are doing. I don't want to know,
Speaker 1: because you know they're out here doing side quests for Moncalamari,
Speaker 1: you know. So Bo is like, well, I'd like to
Speaker 1: meet with these Mandalorians. I I have to talk with
Speaker 1: them about some very urgent business. And the royal couples
Speaker 1: like that's a great idea, but we have some things
Speaker 1: that we'd like you to take care of u A. First,
Speaker 1: we're having issues with our droid workforce. They say, we
Speaker 1: have a lot of a lot of droids here, including
Speaker 1: separatist battle Joy former separatist battle Rays have been reconditioned
Speaker 1: for you know, regular blue collar work, and they're acting up.
Speaker 1: They're either refusing work or deleting tasks. And it all
Speaker 1: seemed at first to be kind of innocent, but now
Speaker 1: there's been some some violence involved, some assaults, people have
Speaker 1: been injured in its becoming more serious. Can Bow and
Speaker 1: Din look into it? And Bo is like the Mandalorians thing,
Speaker 1: just take care of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can give them an order, you can tell
Speaker 2: them that why would we have to do.
Speaker 1: But you know, again, the the Charter of Plaza fifteen
Speaker 1: stipulates that no kind of armed forces can enter the city.
Speaker 1: But there's another loophole. Because of the multicultural society that
Speaker 1: they are building here respects the cultures of the people
Speaker 1: that are there, which is a wonderful thing. Bo and
Speaker 1: Din can therefore or come armed into the city because
Speaker 1: their weaponry, their armor is intrinsic to their culture and
Speaker 1: therefore it's fine.
Speaker 2: So, as you can see, this was a very cynical invitation.
Speaker 2: They knew that this would be useful to them. Yes,
Speaker 2: and bombaed it. Jack Black sells it very well. It's
Speaker 2: such a great coincidence. But also, if you want to
Speaker 2: speak to the Mandalorians, go so out our droid problem
Speaker 2: and they.
Speaker 1: Offer actually a very very juicy nugget in return. The
Speaker 1: deal that they offer is in return for helping the
Speaker 1: Plausure fifteen out with their droid problem, Plausure fifteen would
Speaker 1: formally recognize the new mandalor the currently repopulating Mandalor as
Speaker 1: a sovereign system and then would lobby the new Republic
Speaker 1: to do the same. That's actually like a huge deal.
Speaker 2: That's a huge deal. Let me ask you a question
Speaker 2: about this then, So this basically establishes that no question,
Speaker 2: this rumors and rumblings of them repopulating them law is
Speaker 2: out in the world, because that's not just a lucky guess,
Speaker 2: that's right. Like they absolutely come to this with a
Speaker 2: knowledge that this is something that's going on, which probably
Speaker 2: means other people are going to hear about it too.
Speaker 2: And we can assume as we get into these last
Speaker 2: two episodes of the season, I think that that will
Speaker 2: be good because lots of Mandalorians will probably come to Mandalore,
Speaker 2: but it will also be bad because people will know
Speaker 2: where to find the Mandalorians and Din and Bow if
Speaker 2: they need to.
Speaker 1: Bo thinks that this diplomatic deal is really, really great,
Speaker 1: and dinner is just like I just want to kill
Speaker 1: Troy hate. I want to kill him. I like one droid.
Speaker 1: That's it, and he's dead. He's dead, and all the
Speaker 1: rest of them can go to hell. So they go
Speaker 1: to see the Security Commissioner. He's basically the head of
Speaker 1: all their defense infrastructure, and he it's a star studed episode.
Speaker 1: He is played by Christopher Lloyd, the legendary Chris Lloyd.
Speaker 2: You really don't think after they do like Lizzo and
Speaker 2: Jack Flat, which just feels very contemporary, and you don't
Speaker 2: really expect to then just see like Dark Brown, our
Speaker 2: uncle Fast. You're one of the most influential character actors
Speaker 2: and comedians of our generation, especially if you love the
Speaker 2: kind of stuff we love. And they just casually have
Speaker 2: him that just being in charge of treat any five.
Speaker 1: So then uh, the Commissioner plays them some of the
Speaker 1: security tapes of the various incidents, and some of them
Speaker 1: are comical.
Speaker 2: And groceries around.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then a crash car and then a Benny
Speaker 1: Hannah chef goes nuts.
Speaker 2: That was my favorite one. One, like who was thinking
Speaker 2: of putting some general grievous style guy in charge of
Speaker 2: doing you know, Beni Hannah that's cooking. And my favorite
Speaker 2: pie is when he turns he is wheeled in those
Speaker 2: good stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So Baul asks an important question, which is like,
Speaker 1: let's just turn them off, just turn them off. Well,
Speaker 1: here's why. Here on h On Neman Marcus planet, Neman
Speaker 1: Marcus uh, the neoliberal jewel of the outer rim. All
Speaker 1: of our citizens here on Plaza or fifteen live a
Speaker 1: fucking life of consumers leisure. They don't lift a finger.
Speaker 1: The droids do everything.
Speaker 2: Seems like a problem just saying.
Speaker 1: There are some moral and athnical issues. Hyah, we can
Speaker 1: get into it because there are some obvious issues that
Speaker 1: become that come to the surface, you know, or at
Speaker 1: least the subtextual service in this episode, and you know,
Speaker 1: essentially the Commissioner's like, listen, people don't want to work anymore,
Speaker 1: and honestly, right and if you turn the droids off,
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to go to work. They're gonna have
Speaker 1: to work as Benny Hanna chef's. They're gonna have to
Speaker 1: work as drivers. They're gonna have to they're gonna have
Speaker 1: to carry people's.
Speaker 2: They're gonna have to space grub hops.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're gonna have to carry the the fucking Captain
Speaker 1: Bombadier's like groceries to his house. And they're not gonna
Speaker 1: want to do that in society. We collapse and they're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: Bowen and is a very.
Speaker 2: Big red button that he claims, well, turned them all on,
Speaker 2: a big, extremely ominous button. I feel like that would
Speaker 2: be a more sensible way to do that, and we
Speaker 2: will find out lat the button is ominous.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So Bowen didn't go and see the the other
Speaker 1: people that do manual labor, skilled labor here in Plazia fifteen,
Speaker 1: and it's the ugnots, the mechanics who basically keep everything
Speaker 1: run and keep all the droids running and do a
Speaker 1: bunch of the other kind of maintenance work around here.
Speaker 1: Did knows how to talk to them, and he manages
Speaker 1: to get some information out of them over drinks. The
Speaker 1: ug Knots insist the droids are not malfunctioning because Ugnots
Speaker 1: are very particular about their work.
Speaker 2: And to say that is like an insult.
Speaker 1: It's an insult because you're saying ugnot work is not good,
Speaker 1: because why else would these droids be?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I function. We get a great moment here where
Speaker 2: Bo as the princess. She doesn't know how to talk
Speaker 2: to normal people. She doesn't know how to talk to
Speaker 2: agnats who valued.
Speaker 1: That health here in the Duchess she's fine, princess, you know, like,
Speaker 1: oh wow, this is great.
Speaker 2: But we actually get to see Dinn showcasing his talent
Speaker 2: with people, showing how wildly is showing the common touch.
Speaker 2: He's a man of the people, like you're standing on
Speaker 2: those pieces of paper.
Speaker 1: That's right. And so he managed to get some information
Speaker 1: out of them.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: And that information is the location of the droids that
Speaker 1: have malfunctioned in the past. So detectives Crez and Jarren
Speaker 1: head to a spaceport loading doct this is where they've
Speaker 1: been sent and the manager Droid says, hey, how are you?
Speaker 1: Don't worry? All our certifications are up to date and
Speaker 1: all these above board. Roger, Roger, no need for the
Speaker 1: police here. You can be on your way. Can I
Speaker 1: see your warrant? And uh, den. Jarren then goes into
Speaker 1: his good cop bad cop, which is all bad cops,
Speaker 1: and says, we don't need no stinking warrants. Here's what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. I'm gonna just kick, physically assault these
Speaker 1: hard working droids.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna just kick every single droid until one gets stressed. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's terrible behavior. It's an awful baitful baby.
Speaker 1: So that he kicks a droid and one droid's like hey.
Speaker 1: He defends himself and then realizes it's been outed as
Speaker 1: one of these droids that now can think on its own,
Speaker 1: runs away and.
Speaker 2: He just tries to shoot it.
Speaker 1: Bowen didn't chase it down and shoot it in the back,
Speaker 1: just like real cops. Very realistic.
Speaker 2: Actually they shoot this pulling in the book. He was
Speaker 2: just doing his job, just carrying a corboard box, and
Speaker 2: Din's Nash waving a hand in front of him kicking him.
Speaker 2: Bad behavior. Not a fan, not a fan.
Speaker 1: But this is the way things work on Plaza fifteen,
Speaker 1: and we got to keep the society going. And I
Speaker 1: get it. Bo finds a spark pad on the droid's
Speaker 1: carcass and it leads them to a droid bar. The resister,
Speaker 1: and it's a lot ively place, you know, lots of
Speaker 1: happy droids having enjoying some R and R and all
Speaker 1: of that ground still halt as soon as Bowen Din
Speaker 1: walk in.
Speaker 2: They got big snitch energy. You know, there is a
Speaker 2: problem when they walk in.
Speaker 1: I don't think they get many of our kind here.
Speaker 1: Dinn says, no ship now, yeah, why yeah. The bartender
Speaker 1: is very standoffish until Dinn turns on the charm by saying,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna dissect your fucking brain.
Speaker 2: Yeah and pulls out like in a little electronic like taste, like.
Speaker 1: He's gonna cattle fraud you. And then I'm gonna cut your.
Speaker 2: Head off and I'll just take memory caught out and
Speaker 2: like melt it so I can find out your secrets.
Speaker 2: He's this man has problems. He needs to go to
Speaker 2: like armor therapy. Go talk about best scarf, you bestcar
Speaker 2: so much. How about you treat some metal droids nice.
Speaker 1: Not exactly you know, clothing, this mission and honor here,
Speaker 1: we're just like.
Speaker 2: The Mandalorians, are strugglingly threatening these mechanical life forms a sentient.
Speaker 2: Let's be real, it's not cool, it's not okay, but be.
Speaker 1: That as it may they do manage to get some
Speaker 1: information out of the bartender. The bartender offers that and
Speaker 1: this is actually a wonderful moment where we get to
Speaker 1: understand the kind of texture and fabric of this droid community.
Speaker 1: He says, Listen, the droid community here is just as
Speaker 1: concerned about the incidence as anyone else. We have a
Speaker 1: lot of older models here that would have been decommissioned
Speaker 1: and scrapped anywhere else in the galaxy. But here they've
Speaker 1: found a place where they can still work and be
Speaker 1: of use. And if public opinion turns against droids because
Speaker 1: of all the things going on here, then they're going
Speaker 1: to be out of home and probably potentially scrapped. And
Speaker 1: the bartender then says, you know, we want to help humans.
Speaker 1: Human life. It says, quote, human life is so short.
Speaker 1: Organic's created us. It's the least we can do. And
Speaker 1: all the droids are like, yeah, don't kill us. Please,
Speaker 1: look how much we love human we love their groceries. Please.
Speaker 1: I want to cook for them.
Speaker 2: I want to chomp up vegetables on a hop plate.
Speaker 1: I want to do it. Please don't let them scrap us,
Speaker 1: din Jar and you could kick me in the in
Speaker 1: the thigh all you want, So they then bowed in.
Speaker 1: Then uh trace uh the issue from this part using
Speaker 1: this uh, the information from this bartender to tainted nepenthe,
Speaker 1: which is this kind of droid lubricant that droids drink,
Speaker 1: but it also acts as like a delivery system for
Speaker 1: like new code.
Speaker 2: Which is very cool, really really cool. Basically, it reprograms
Speaker 2: them as they drink it, and the idea is to
Speaker 2: patch the software to keep them in this kind of
Speaker 2: new program state. And it's delectable. So somebody has tainted
Speaker 2: it and is reprogramming them for their own nefarious means.
Speaker 1: So they go of the droid Morgue rip to the
Speaker 1: droids and the droid morg and Bow and Din go
Speaker 1: there and they have the kind of mortician takes some
Speaker 1: of the liquid that is in this this droid who
Speaker 1: has fell victim to whatever is in the nepenthe, and it's,
Speaker 1: by the way, it is either a B two that
Speaker 1: has malfunctioned or it's the one they just but be
Speaker 1: that as it may. They then analyze the analyze the
Speaker 1: liquid and there and Din is like, I wonder if
Speaker 1: this stuff, you know, is still causing droid's malfunction, and
Speaker 1: that is answered in the affirmative when the assistant droid
Speaker 1: in the room goes nuts and has to be chopped
Speaker 1: in half with the dark Saver. Analysis of the liquid
Speaker 1: reveals that there's particles in there. These particles are nanodroids,
Speaker 1: and furthermore, there's writing on the nanodroid. It's in the
Speaker 1: writing is a chain code, and the chain code leads
Speaker 1: them to the information. These parts were created years ago
Speaker 1: by the Techno Union, which is a an organization from
Speaker 1: back during the Clone Wars pre Clone Wars days that
Speaker 1: was actually part of the separatist movement, and it was
Speaker 1: like this union of all the kind of technological manufacturers
Speaker 1: throughout the throughout the galaxy, and that someone ordered on
Speaker 1: Space Amazon this this, these nanodroids.
Speaker 2: Not even the dock Web, it was literally just space.
Speaker 2: They find this stuff very quickly.
Speaker 1: His credit card is right there associated with it, and
Speaker 1: it's none other than Commissioner Hellgate.
Speaker 2: The d Commissioner of.
Speaker 1: Security, head of Security him self. He ordered the nanodroids.
Speaker 1: He's behind all this. They go to confront him, and
Speaker 1: it turns out Commissioner's a separatist. He's an unreformed ducalist.
Speaker 1: He's like Doku was a visionary.
Speaker 2: I say, look, from what we've seen in the recent anima,
Speaker 2: he had, he had some thoughts.
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with I he obviously in a way
Speaker 1: and I'm saying this in a way that is completely
Speaker 1: different from saga Aria. He went too far, he did.
Speaker 2: He did go too far. But you know, we got
Speaker 2: to see that kind of disillusion that he felt. And
Speaker 2: he's both sides.
Speaker 1: He's about to like unpack the entire Dukalist ideology. BO
Speaker 1: just tranks him as like a politics.
Speaker 2: I don't want to get it. I'm not saying, we know,
Speaker 2: don't judge a book by its cover. Don't you know,
Speaker 2: judge somebody by their name. That can be very problematic.
Speaker 2: This man's name was hell Gates. I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 2: just giving him one extra look. He's in charge of
Speaker 2: the droids. He's got a very suspicious, narratively relevant name.
Speaker 2: Probably shouldn't have taken you long to get hit.
Speaker 1: So we got the guy. Case closed. Head back to
Speaker 1: the Royal party room, where the Duchess is cheating at
Speaker 1: bachi ball with the help of Grogu.
Speaker 2: Does she great time?
Speaker 1: Does she know that Grogu is helping her cheat. I
Speaker 1: don't know, I mean, no one. She's hitting shots that
Speaker 1: no one ever hit in the she is.
Speaker 2: I think when you are that level of wealthy and powerful,
Speaker 2: people just say yes to you all the time and
Speaker 2: they kind of just let you do whatever you do
Speaker 2: and they go, oh, darling, you're winning, and they move,
Speaker 2: they move the little hooks you know that you play
Speaker 2: the crochet with and all that kind of biz.
Speaker 1: The ug knots relegated to the underworld, the way the
Speaker 1: droids are cheated. The fact that the Duchess is like
Speaker 1: openly cheating at a game and doesn't give a shit
Speaker 1: about it. There's some red flags here. It may everybody seems.
Speaker 2: To you know what, though, Grogu he's having a great time,
Speaker 2: loving it, play in, doing some flips, using the force.
Speaker 2: You know. The Duchess just wants to snuggle him constantly,
Speaker 2: and he seems very happy about that too. He's just
Speaker 2: having a good time.
Speaker 1: So Bowen didn't deliver Commissioner Hellgate, and they're like, this
Speaker 1: is the guy. He did it all. The Duchess offers
Speaker 1: Hellgate the same compassion that the planet and its society
Speaker 1: has showed her husband. Captain Bombardier, former member of the
Speaker 1: Dreaded Empire, and you know, can the commissioner do the same,
Speaker 1: Can the commissioner forgive Captain Bombardier for his imperial past
Speaker 1: and the things that they've done. And he's like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe maybe i'll get there.
Speaker 2: I'm an old dad, And.
Speaker 1: So they're like, okay, well until you figure it out,
Speaker 1: you're e You're going to the moon, all.
Speaker 2: Right, and humans off the guide on the moon.
Speaker 1: Bye bye. So Bowen didn't get their audience with Axe Wolves,
Speaker 1: and they also get the key to plus your.
Speaker 2: Face a huge's huge, huge key ridiculous.
Speaker 1: On the ride over, bow is kind of worried because
Speaker 1: obviously her and Axe had this falling out and acts
Speaker 1: and his people don't really respect her because she didn't
Speaker 1: win the Dark Saber and the time Honored Way, and
Speaker 1: did says, listen, whatever you decide, I will support you,
Speaker 1: which is wonderful. They find the Mandlorids drinking space coffee
Speaker 1: by their ships, just hanging out. I've come to reclaim
Speaker 1: my fleet, you know, bo says, and Axes like, well,
Speaker 1: I like it. I'm not giving it up. And I
Speaker 1: found you one warrior to another and it's on like
Speaker 1: oldro On. Great fight, Yeah, and Bo wins, but that
Speaker 1: doesn't change the fact in axis eyes and the eyes
Speaker 1: of all the people that follow him, that she can't
Speaker 1: lead because she doesn't wield the Dark Saber. And then
Speaker 1: Dinn is like Holloo, like Matt Locke, like Columber. Hold on,
Speaker 1: I have some information here that you might be interested in.
Speaker 1: Legally speaking, now officially, I think you could argue that
Speaker 1: I am just holding the Dark Saber for Bo because
Speaker 1: when I was on mandalor exploring it for a very
Speaker 1: short period of time before I got molly wopped by
Speaker 1: a spine up by a spider or whatever it was,
Speaker 1: I lost the Dark Saber to the afore the aforementioned
Speaker 1: spider guy, Bo saved my life killed the spider. Therefore,
Speaker 1: by the transitive law of the Dark Saber, which is
Speaker 1: otherwise the space addendum to ellerwand law, is it not
Speaker 1: true that Bou is the rightful owner of the Dark Saber?
Speaker 1: Ax Wolves, what say you? And Ax is like you
Speaker 1: got me?
Speaker 2: He's like, you're right because because Dinn's like, did she
Speaker 2: not defeat the one who defeated me? And it's true?
Speaker 2: And I would just like to say we pointed this
Speaker 2: out on that and not only asked. We had a
Speaker 2: listener who eight days ago Brian emailed us and said
Speaker 2: he believed this would be the way things played out.
Speaker 2: And Brian was right, and we were right.
Speaker 1: Shouts like Sagerera, you see the truth.
Speaker 2: So Bo has a baby, the dark sabers back and
Speaker 2: thank god, honestly, because let's be real, Dinn was that
Speaker 2: was like he was not doing it. He needed more time,
Speaker 2: He did not know how to wield it. It was still
Speaker 2: very happy to hear me. He did not have the connection.
Speaker 2: And Bo was just looking light fro like it was
Speaker 2: made for.
Speaker 1: He was gonna hurt his back every time.
Speaker 2: He exactly might have killed the baby. It was looking bad,
Speaker 2: it was looking dangerous. This was the best option, and
Speaker 2: I also love that. Really, I think they just wanted
Speaker 2: Bo to be their leader because like it's very convoluted.
Speaker 2: Did he did she really win it in combat? I
Speaker 2: don't know if you could argue that, but she defeated
Speaker 2: and they're just like cool Saturday.
Speaker 1: We got the fleetback, We got the old imperial ships back.
Speaker 1: This is a wonderful episode. It continues, this show continues
Speaker 1: to look great.
Speaker 2: It feels like all of Disney's budget is going to
Speaker 2: this show. Every time I watch it, I'm like, it
Speaker 2: looks so much better. Whatever ILM is doing over there,
Speaker 2: please do that for those MCU movies that aren't connecting
Speaker 2: as well with people, because these worlds feel so lived in.
Speaker 2: The fights are so brilliant, the creature work is so fantastic.
Speaker 2: We get so much of that fun stuff. The costuming,
Speaker 2: the Duchess's outfit that's kind of this brilliant practice dress,
Speaker 2: but behind her is this kind of holographic flower. There's
Speaker 2: just so much fun to be had to know.
Speaker 1: How the the foot race with the unfortunate droid that
Speaker 1: then gets dishonorably gunned down from behind, because that the
Speaker 1: movement was like really human, like I wonder if it
Speaker 1: was Mo capp or what it was it.
Speaker 2: And it made it hit even hard.
Speaker 1: It looked really really really cool. And I think this
Speaker 1: was like my favorite by far, my favorite col open
Speaker 1: of the season and maybe my favorite call open.
Speaker 2: Maybe it sounds off feeling like a mini story. It is,
Speaker 2: and it feels like it's going to be this kind
Speaker 2: of dry, bureaucratic Star Wars conversation which we're so used
Speaker 2: to and we kind of rag on, but we also
Speaker 2: enjoy but it actually was this beautiful, funny Romeo and
Speaker 2: Juliette story. And I want to read the Inevitable a
Speaker 2: certain point of view story about it. I want to
Speaker 2: read the novella that somebody is going to write about
Speaker 2: those two because you do believe that they will see
Speaker 2: each other again, and I love that. Also, it does
Speaker 2: so much to establish where these Mandalorian mercenaries are at
Speaker 2: because she says, like, I thought you were honorable, and
Speaker 2: she says, well, you know we are for a few
Speaker 2: credits and it's like, and that's the real truth about
Speaker 2: where the Mandalorians are at. Now what? So we're how
Speaker 2: many two episodes?
Speaker 1: Two episodes left? Feels like there's more Mandalorians to join
Speaker 1: the fold, still time for us to see Sabine. And
Speaker 1: then last episode surely is going to be the Assault
Speaker 1: on mandalis maybe a two parter.
Speaker 2: I think that My God says, you're back with Rick
Speaker 2: for miahwa who was the who directed the opening. You're
Speaker 2: so great. Those are the last two episodes. I feel
Speaker 2: like this is going to be your big action story.
Speaker 2: You've had that Jon Favreau Dave Filoni style serialized storytelling,
Speaker 2: lots of side quest, lots of bottle episodes. I love
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. I think it's really fun. But
Speaker 2: I think people do want this big, chunky, two part
Speaker 2: are that's going to re establish wish where we find
Speaker 2: the Mandalorian.
Speaker 1: Ques after seeing what Acts and his people have been
Speaker 1: up to. It's one could only assume, listen, Mandalorians need
Speaker 1: work too, and when we first meet Den, he's a
Speaker 1: bounty hunter, Like this is what Mandalorians do is they
Speaker 1: live by their blasters, and so it absolutely makes sense
Speaker 1: that they would go out across the galaxy hired out
Speaker 1: as mercenaries, privateers, what have you, bodyguards, you know what,
Speaker 1: bounty hunters. It kind of does leave the door open,
Speaker 1: then for some splinter group of Mandalorians to maybe have
Speaker 1: been hired to either capture Gideon or move him from somewhere.
Speaker 2: Oh who followed Gideon or follow.
Speaker 1: Gideon like it could I thought that that was an
Speaker 1: obvious frame up it maybe I think it probably is.
Speaker 2: I think the best goot to me is too obvious,
Speaker 2: too obvious, But they couldn't you raise a good point.
Speaker 2: I think there's a large chance that that could be
Speaker 2: a splinter group who the follow Gideon, who have some
Speaker 2: kind of belief that he is still the rightful holder
Speaker 2: of the Dark Saber, or who have want to punish
Speaker 2: him for his crimes.
Speaker 1: Because so much of this, the kind of emotional weight
Speaker 1: of this season, particularly with Bo, has been about no
Speaker 1: more Mandalorians fighting Manalorians. This is what she said that
Speaker 1: today when she says acts, this is what led us
Speaker 1: to this place. You know, all the tragedies that happened
Speaker 1: during the Clone Wars. You know, Mandalorian society ripped apart,
Speaker 1: with one side of the debate living on the Muna Conchorya,
Speaker 1: the rest of us trying to make a go of
Speaker 1: it Amandalori like that didn't work. And it feels like
Speaker 1: this has been so much about, like, you know, bringing
Speaker 1: the tribe back together. But I do wonder if that
Speaker 1: means we're going to see Mandalorian's fighting man.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, imagine if the power of like
Speaker 2: Gideon stepping off of a ship with like a new
Speaker 2: death was with the Mandalorians behind him. That would be
Speaker 2: huge and also gives an option for those Mandalorians to
Speaker 2: still be welcomed into the fold and perhaps turn. So
Speaker 2: I think I am I love the frame up. I
Speaker 2: think it feels like a frame up, and I still
Speaker 2: stick by it. But I am sixty forty that there
Speaker 2: could be this spin off, kind of secondary splinter group
Speaker 2: of Mandalorians. It makes sense, like you said, with the themes. Also,
Speaker 2: I need to know where these final two episodes going
Speaker 2: to be an hour long each. It feels like they
Speaker 2: need to be chunky. It feels like there's still a
Speaker 2: lot to kind of tie up here, and also to
Speaker 2: establish what we should expect to see from the future
Speaker 2: seasons that are inevitably coming.
Speaker 1: Well, wonderful episode. Bryce Dallas Howard once again in her bag.
Speaker 2: Give her the trilogy. You want a new trilogy, give
Speaker 2: it to Bryce. She's delivered at all.
Speaker 1: Times, one of our greatest NIPO babies.
Speaker 2: Most talented, the most of that NEPO fantastic power.
Speaker 1: Cannot argue with it. Up next nerd Out.
Speaker 2: In today's nerd Out, where you tell us what you
Speaker 2: love them, why, or a theory that you're excited to share,
Speaker 2: Peter ponders the poisoned planet rumors from both and Or
Speaker 2: and the Mandalorian.
Speaker 1: Peter writes, quote, I'm curious if the planet is poisoned
Speaker 1: rumors warnings on both Canari and mandal Or are inherent
Speaker 1: parallels or thematic empire propaganda. In both shows, characters make
Speaker 1: it on and off the planets without dying despite the threat.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen this address and cant side if I'm
Speaker 1: overthinking this or if this is an overarching storyline. I
Speaker 1: think there's something to it.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 1: I think there's something to it.
Speaker 2: Think about it. We see these planets that have indigenous
Speaker 2: populations that are culturally connected to the planets whose planets
Speaker 2: are raided, and then these rumors are spread about this
Speaker 2: idea of oh they're poisoned. You can't go back, you
Speaker 2: have to start again. That works for almost every level
Speaker 2: of imperial society. Not only does it eradicate an indigenous
Speaker 2: population and spread them out, but it also works. You
Speaker 2: need workers on Corriscont, you need workers in these places.
Speaker 2: You need to push people into the urban sprawl of
Speaker 2: the galaxy to keep the cities moving. I believe that
Speaker 2: this was not the last that we'll see. I hadn't
Speaker 2: actually thought about that, but as soon as Peter said it,
Speaker 2: I think that just makes so much sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, and I also think it makes sense
Speaker 1: from a kind of economic point of view. It's just cheaper, exactly,
Speaker 1: It's just cheaper. You. Of course, you could poison the
Speaker 1: entire planet. That would take a lot of radiation and
Speaker 1: a lot of bombs and a lot of you know,
Speaker 1: chemical weapons, if that's what you want to do, or
Speaker 1: you can just scale it dy, You just tell everybody
Speaker 1: that it's poisoned.
Speaker 2: And the fact that you had already attacked it. It
Speaker 2: looks terrible, It looks broken down. People don't live that
Speaker 2: those rumors spread and then people become scared to go back,
Speaker 2: like what happened with Mandlore.
Speaker 1: I like this idea, and it seems like something that
Speaker 1: a space empire. It just makes sense that you would
Speaker 1: do it, especially.
Speaker 2: We know that propaganda and branding is such a big
Speaker 2: part of the empire. It makes sense that that would
Speaker 2: go down to economic policy too.
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Speaker 1: See you next time by Hey Mike, this is down
Speaker 1: for Marine. Yeah. I just want to talk about the
Speaker 1: droids of Plazia fifteen today, Mike. You know, listen, everybody,
Speaker 1: I get it. It's working for everybody, the system that
Speaker 1: is working for everybody. I had a you know, I
Speaker 1: have a timeshare in Plazia fifteen and it's great. You know,
Speaker 1: I play golf, I play spas golf out there and
Speaker 1: all that stuff. I just want to say, Mike, I
Speaker 1: don't think the droids are being treated necessarily right over there, Mike,
Speaker 1: I can't put my finger on it. But anytime I
Speaker 1: go to a place and all the work is being
Speaker 1: done by droids, and all the the kind of maintenance
Speaker 1: work is being done by specifically ugnots, you know, it
Speaker 1: just gives me a weird feeling, Mic like I'm in
Speaker 1: somewhere else in the galaxy, like from long long ago,
Speaker 1: where I it shouldn't be like that anymore, Mike. Again,
Speaker 1: the Duchess is a nice she's a wonderful lady. And
Speaker 1: Captain Bombadia a former imperial guy. You know, I don't
Speaker 1: like those, but he seems bye bye, you know everything
Speaker 1: I've seen to be a sweet guy. But it just
Speaker 1: rubs me the wrong way, Mike. I don't know something
Speaker 1: about it, Mike. I'm hoping that some of our galactic
Speaker 1: free press will look into it, Mike, because something about
Speaker 1: it doesn't rubs me the wrong way.
Speaker 2: Mike.
Speaker 1: I'll take my insy off the end, thank you,